#ms machine

[addictedtostorytelling]

Hi, there! I must admit that I'm fascinated with your takes on our lovely couple, that is GSR. Honestly, before I fumble into your blog, I was quite lost at the deepness that is their relationship. So thank you for this incredible work you've been doing! 💗

Based on that, do you think that during s1, specifically in s1e02, Sara and Grissom might have met in particular? If you know what I mean. Assuming they, in fact, already had some sort of more intimate relationship back from San Francisco's time.

I've always wondered that. As it was never meant for Sara to stay in Vegas, right? Her permanent stay was something bright new, and I wonder if they took 'advantage' of that moment, even under those terrible circumstances. Which would might lead to why Sara might have accepted the proposal of staying in Vegas and why she might have thought Grissom would pursue a relationship with her, only for her being frustrated by that man's terrible dating skills (well, not that terrible, just a bit unusual).

Sorry, I started mumbling! But thank you beforehand! I love to read your analysis of them <3

hi, @ms-machine!

thank you for your kind words! i'm so glad you enjoy my gsr takes and find them helpful for understanding the ship! ❤

re: your question:

if i catch your drift, you're asking if i think grissom and sara have sex while sara is in vegas during the events of episode 01x02 "cool change," yeah?

while upon sara's arrival in vegas (which takes place, within the universe of the show, on approximately 10.16.00), grissom and sara are super flirty with each other and grissom does open up to sara emotionally, both of which behaviors could be indicative that they sleep together while she is in town, since grissom and sara also often act that way at other times during the early seasons of the show when we know for certain they're not having sex, said behavior in itself isn't enough to prove anything one way or the other.

just looking at the timeline, sara wraps her mini-investigation into warrick's conduct and whereabouts within the course of a single day, and, during that day, both she and grissom are extremely busy—he with his inquiries into the mysterious circs death of ted sallenger, she with her examination of warrick's itinerary surrounding the gribbs shooting. that so, after their initial interactions in front of the monaco casino, grissom and sara don't really talk to each other again until the end of the episode, when they convene with the rest of the team to watch as gribbs's killer is remanded into custody.

given the tight schedule they're on through morning and afternoon hours, we can probably say with some surety they don't sleep with each other then.

but what about afterward?

after all, the events of episode 01x03 "crate n' burial" don't transpire, within the universe of the show, until 10.29.00—meaning there are thirteen days' worth of unaccounted for time between when we last see grissom and sara following the conclusion of the gribbs case and when we next see them responding to the garris "kidnapping" callout.

honestly, there's so much we don't know about what happens during that interval.

for example, does sara immediately hop a plane back to san francisco on the evening of 10.16.00 after she finishes her conduct report on warrick or does she maybe hang around in vegas for a while afterward? if so, for how long? a day or two? a week? and where does she make her accommodations while she's in town—at a hotel or perhaps staying at grissom's place? if at grissom's place, crashing on his couch or sharing his bed?

another major line of questioning revolves around her hiring process.

we never get to see the moment when grissom asks sara to officially join his team on screen.

when does he do so? has he already made the invitation by the time she's standing at his side in the las vegas crime lab parking lot, watching holly gribbs's killer being loaded onto a police van and taken to jail? or does he wait a couple of days? does she have the job offer in pocket by the time she touches down back in san francisco or does he contact her sometime later in order to extend it?

considering that she is already hired and onboarded just thirteen days later, he probably can't wait too long after the events of episode 01x02 "cool change" to start officially headhunting her, especially since she still has to put in notice that she is quitting with the sfpd.

as stated in the meta i posted the other day, the timeline for these first three episodes of s1 is not very realistic, particularly where sara's hiring and move are concerned.

whenever he does "pop the (employment) question," does she tell him yes before he can even fully finish asking? or does she take a few days to consider?

during that decision-making process, is there any discussion between them about how her joining his team (and becoming his employee) might affect their relationship, one way or another? or is that issue one they gloss over?

frankly, without knowing the answers to these questions, it's really impossible to say definitively whether or not grissom and sara have sex at any point circa the events of episode 01x02 "cool change."

headcanon rules on the matter.

personally, in my headcanon, i don't think they do sleep together during that time, as i tend to believe that had they crossed that particular threshold and gotten into the habit of having a sexual relationship while sara was visiting vegas during the gribbs investigation, they probably wouldn't have been able to backtrack and/or stop themselves from continuing said relationship once she moved to vegas permanently.

to me, i think their sexual encounters—and i do believe they have some while sara still lives in san francisco (just perhaps not "going all the way")—end sometime prior to the gribbs murder.

to my mind, the cessation of their sexual encounters isn't something they discuss (meaning they never have any kind of explicit "hey, now that we're going to be coworkers, we should probably cool it, yeah?" conversation; the encounters themselves just peter off sans acknowledgment as to what is happening or explanation as to why)—which is perhaps the cause of a lot of the confusion of s1, when their relationship seems so ill-defined and nebulous, with unclear expectations.

as for the issue of why sara accepts grissom's job offer and has expectations that she and grissom will continue their relationship once she relocates to vegas, i don't necessarily think she and grissom would have to have sex during the gribbs case in order to cause her to take that course of action and think in that direction.

even if they don't actually ~do the do~ during her brief stint in sin city while she's investigating warrick, she's already head over heels in love with grissom when he asks her to work for him, and they've already been carrying on some kind of ambiguous personal relationship (perhaps even of a sexual nature) prior to this point, so she has plenty of motivation to want to move closer to him and plenty of reason to suppose that if she does so their new, closer proximity will take their relationship to that "next level" she so desires to be at with him as is.

—but all of that stuff is just my take.

like i said, there's really no right or wrong answer here, so if you prefer to imagine that they do sleep together sometime during sara's first visit to vegas, you certainly have ample grounding for that line of thinking.

(thirteen days is a lot of unaccounted for time!)

also, fic rec: i just read @hollygl125's delightful story where grissom and sara do have a sexual relationship all the way up until she officially joins the team, so if you're looking for a well-done take on that version of events, i highly recommend you check it out!

thanks for the question! please feel welcome to send another any time.

[liesmyth]

Fuck every other question about John Gaius, none of that matters. Do you think he actually only ate peanuts discreetly, the once?

John Gaius is a dirty liar who lies. That was just the only time he was caught.

[cozylittleartblog]

yeah like having to deal with the obnoxious middle aged women who thrift to resell wasn't bad enough, now we got the braindead fast fashion bozos cluttering things up too.

its ok shirt, i will love you like somebody else apparently couldn't even if you shed microplastics into the water supply and will fall apart after 7 wears. and then i'll sew you back together like anyone with two braincells to rub together Should

[redstrawbluestraw]

Women moment

My designs for the main girls in my ver ^_^ got too lazy to finish lining this

[qftim-c]

Very much working on things :3 but took lil doodle break, I need sleep spins

Women r great frfr, I am one

Also big thanks to cream puff my cat, you have to appreciate the support babies looks at cream puff and cloudy :3

[ingravinoveritas]

Someone shelving a DVD of Staged series 1 and 2 in the LGBTQ+ section of a shop is entirely too accurate and will never not be hilarious...

[populousgraph]

I did end up doodling some of the characters hanging out

Context for Boris:

He doesn't actually speak. He talks through text boxes that usually appear around him. Normal people can't see these, but cartoons can.

(Yakko and Cuphead will be in the next post I promise. I just got tired lol-)

[kris-bj]

QUESTERS V RIVALS

these are just references ;)

are yall excited? i know i am ^^

[alemntourv]

filled in the image :>

[featherwhiskered]

god theyre so 2005 ms paint to me

[addictedtostorytelling]

(1/2) Hi! I'd like to bother you a bit, if you don't mind. :P I was rewatching CSI and also guiding myself through your notes own our favorite couple, and I finally hit the 'proposal episode' ♥♥♥ what a beautiful take on them, it's so sweet, it's soo them! Also, Jorja's adorable face when Grissom's scrapping the bee's sting out of her hand, whilst she wonders about what he just asked her, I mean- gosh, I adore her! Anyways! What's your take on the proposal?

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(2/2) Do you believe Grissom had been thinking about proposing to her before the events of s7e24/s8e01, or that was an out of the blue question? I tend to believe he had thought about that for a long time before making up his mind on the subject, as we know he likes to over analyze stuff. Also, do you happen to think Sara might have adventured herself with the idea of someday marrying him? I'd love to hear your thoughts on this. Thx! ;) I'm so sorry for the long post, please don't feel pressured to answer me, if you don't want to. Honestly. <3 😳💕

hi, @ms-machine!

you're not bothering me at all! it's great to hear from you again.

my short answer to your question is that i very much agree with you that grissom has proposing to sara on his mind long before he actually asks her to marry him.

though he can't very well pop the question during the "secret dating" phase, i think he pretty much always has the thought in the back of his mind (more or less from the onset of their relationship) that someday—when he is at liberty to do so—he is going to ask sara to be his wife.

her abduction by the miniature killer and subsequent months-long recovery prevents him from asking her immediately after they "come out" at work.

but once she's sufficiently healed and they've established their "new normal" now that their relationship is public knowledge, he wastes no time in doing what he has for so long wanted to do.

to my mind, when he actually makes the proposal, he does so extemporaneously, in a moment of sheer adoration—meaning when he wakes up that morning, he doesn't necessarily know "today's the day." rather, it's just something that happens. the right light strikes, and he finally has the opportunity to say what he has been waiting to say to sara for literal years now, so he doesn't hesitate.

likewise, i think that though sara has wanted grissom to propose to her basically the entire time they've been together, she's never been brave enough to let on to him that she has because she hasn't been entirely sure of his feelings for her or his level of commitment.

part of her has always worried that she's been more ready to settle down than he has. she's been worried about "coming on too strong" or spooking him, so she's just kept her mouth shut, silently hoping that maybe one day he'll be ready but trying not to force the issue or tip her hand too much.

while recently, since the events of late s7 and early s8, she has had a hunch that maybe grissom is trending more in that direction, since they haven't ever discussed the topic before, she doesn't really have any idea that he is just as eager to tie the knot as she.

she is therefore incredibly pleasantly surprised when he so suddenly asks her to marry him.

it's an actual dream come true for her—something she had always hoped for but hadn't had any specific expectations of.

anyway.

i've got some longer, more detailed posts on the subject, if you're interested:

this one details how grissom's s7 sabbatical serves as a prelude to his s8 proposal.

this one talks about grissom's thought process regarding marriage throughout his relationship with sara.

this one dissects the actual moment when he makes the proposal in itself and why he ultimately ends up just "blurting out the question."

the one conjectures that while both of grissom and sara have wanted to get married to each other for a long, prior to the events of episode 08x02 "the case of the cross-dressing carp," they've never had a conversation with each other concerning that possibility.

this one discusses how while sara has long hoped that grissom might propose to her, she is caught off-guard in the moment when he finally does so.

thanks for the question! please feel welcome to send another any time.

[buttersc0tchz]

Have some more doodles on this AU! <3

Ignore the first top doodle with the wolf oc and my friends axolotl oc though lmao

had a fun time doodle these! please ignore how strange my ink demon doodle looks 😭🙏

[biweeklydavekat]

day 231

cropped version under the cut

[bringbackwendellvaughn]

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