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iridescentoracle Ā· 2 years ago
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thinking about dislocœur againā€¦ this show really told us adrien is the disney princess in this scenario all the way back in the fifth episode and people still think itā€™s not well-written and wasnā€™t planned out well in advanceā€¦ smh
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sentigabrielapologist Ā· 2 years ago
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HAPPY YOUR SECOND BIRTHDAY, SHADOW MOTH šŸ’œšŸ„³šŸ¦‹
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ladyheger Ā· 3 years ago
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DOESN'T THIS REMIND YOU OF
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THIS?
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darkietrashcan Ā· 3 years ago
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SENTIMONSTER THEORY:
WHO CREATED ADRIEN AND WHO CREATED FELIX?
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This is all the information I gathered from the functioning of sentimonsters. So here's the deal.
In my opinion, Emilie created Adrien. That's why she's dead, because she used the broken peackcock miraculous to do so.
Neither Gabriel, nor Nathalie, nor Amelie, could have created Felix nor Adrien. Why? Because there is only one sentimonster per peackock mirculous holder. Gabriel is Shadow Moth. Nathalie was Mayura. Both could create sentimonsters, therefore, THEY HADN'T CREATED SENTIMONSTERS BEFORE. PLUS, IF THEY HAD, THEY WOULD ALREADY BE IN A COMA. (Nathalie used the miraculous on screen, we've seen her use it, we've seen her get ill as the episodes came out)
Plus, Amelie is completely fine. Therefore, she has not used the peackock miraculous before...
BUT FELIX's FATHER IS DEAD. WE DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT HIM, BUT THAT'S THE ONLY INFO WE'VE GOT FROM HIM. AND IF WE DO THE MATH, HE MAY HAVE DIED AT THE SAME TIME OF EMILIE'S DISSAPEARANCE. HE MAY HAVE USED THE MIRACULOUS TO CREATE FELIX! BECAUSE EMILIE COULDN'T HAVE CREATED TWO SENTIMONSTERS AT ONCE, CAUSE ASTRUC EXPLICITELY SAID THE RULE: 1 HOLDER CAN CREATE 1 SENTIMONSTER AT THE TIME.
But now, a few questions arise: why does Gabriel have the rings if Felix's father used one to create Felix? Shouldn't Felix's ring be in the Graham de Vanily Family?
And now, another crazier theory: Those are TWIN RINGS. Amelie said that in the episode titled Felix in S3, and also talked about Adrien and Felix looking like twins more than cousins.
We don't know how the peackock miraculous got broken. If it had gotten broken when Master Fu lost the miraculous and destroyed the temple, then Hawk Moth's miraculous should have gotten broken too... But it did not get broken. Sth tells me, that the peackock one got broken later. What if... Emilie tried to create two sentimonsters at one time, and that's why she broke the miraculous? Let me explain you sth: In real life, twins exist because two ovules are fecundated by two sperms. Let's take the biology into the show: one feather into one ring, and another feather into another ring, resulting in Adrien and Felix... TWINS. THAT'S WHY THEY LOOK SO ALIKE? Yeah, that could also be, because their resemblance comes from their mothers looking very alike too.. but... WHAT IF....
Idk, what do you all think about this?
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shiftystorm Ā· 2 years ago
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Life eased up juuust enough to give me a small window to (finally) watch season 4. And I binged the whole thing in a day HAH
when I tell you Iā€™m screaming ā€¦
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so much to draw now ~
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mlwritingprompts Ā· 3 years ago
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Submitted Prompt: Dramatics and Theatrics
MylĆØne is in the drama club of FranƧoise Dupont, right? She wants to be an actress of some sort, so how about she actually gets to perform in a school play? Even better, what if the drama club writes one themselves? Yeah!
So, MylĆØne and her drama friends start work on a play, and one of the ideas floated is that they do a dramatisation of the conflict in their city! Something that can let people laugh at what would normally be a pretty traumatic experience, right?
MylĆØne's not entirely sure, though. For one thing, she would be in line for playing Ladybug, and that's kind of a terrifying prospect. For another, well. Ladybug is a real person- - what if she sees it? What if she thinks it's weird?
So she does what any self-respecting Parisian would do.
The next time she sees Ladybug on patrol, she asks for help. Who would know better how to respectfully portray Ladybug than the girl herself?
Ladybug seems a little apprehensive, which is fair. It's her life, after all. In the end, though, she agrees to come on as a sort of consultant for the production, and floats the idea of tweaking things just a bit.
Maybe Ladybug and Chat Noir fighting Hawkmoth would hit too close to home for some people, you know? Not to mention, after the movie debacle, she's still a little iffy about treating her like a fictional character they can write any which way they want.
With Ladybug's help, MylĆØne and the rest of the drama club get to work on some acceptable substitutes.
Instead of Ladybug and Chat Noir in Paris, it's the heroes Cricket and Corvid against the villainous Tigertail, who's based on a dragonfly.
The drama club actually finds that the freedom they get with original characters is a lot more entertaining, and though Ladybug doesn't stay for long, they do get a lot of interesting ideas from the queen of creativity herself. MylĆØne is actually excited to act now that she doesn't have to fill a real hero's shoes!
Marinette is all too happy to help design costumes (and how did she already seem to have sketches for such a thing?) and Marc, also a part of the drama club, starts to work on the script.
Kids from all around the school want to pitch in their ideas -- a lot of them have been akumtised, after all, and through the lens of fiction, they can process some of it, and maybe get a little fame!
Not everything is sunshine and rainbows, however, for MylĆØne. It turns out she's not a shoo-in for the role of Cricket after all -- ZoĆ« and Lila are both dipping their toes into the ring and auditioning for the main role!
Who will win that coveted title?
How will the play turn out -- who will show up, and who will fail?
Will someone even, gasp, be akumatised over the fun drama turning into something a little more real? --
I really do wish the classmates got more character development outside of their akuma and hero episodes.
MylĆØne is a pretty interesting character with believable interests and she really does feel like a teenager, unlike the outrageously overexaggerated nature of some of the other characters in the class.
(Chloe especially just feels like a mean-spirited caricature of a Billy, and Max is just The Smart Nerdy Kid, with no other interests, and it's all very one-dimensional.)
I also just....didn't really like the film in Queen Banana. For one thing, it did a horrible job of making Marinette's costumes look good in any way -- she deserves to make something better than a onesie.
And like, Lila wasn't there at all? She's a liar, that's her one defining trait in the show, and liars often make excellent actors. I know it was just a mean episode, but I would like to see Lila interacting with her peers on more than just a 'wow I'm the villain of the week' level.
If you want Lila salt, maybe she tries to sabotage the competition. If you'd rather have Lila sugar, maybe she's just really intensely competitive over this kind of thing.
I just think she'd thrive in a theatre setting.
(Also, sidenote, I hope my paragraphs are short enough this time. I tried to cut them down to manageable levels :P)
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Rules for the blogĀ -Ā send a prompt
Actually you know what? The paragraphs all disappeared when I clicked "edit" so I think it might just be tumblr's fault??? I don't really look at the prompts before I click the edit button, so I think it might just be getting rid of the formatting, and since I wasn't paying attention before I just thought they didn't have any??? and this website expects us to pay for this....
anyways I love this. Create your own characters and go wild. The sky is the limit.
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kwamihitman Ā· 4 years ago
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so... most of our big trailer moments have happened.... and itā€™s been three episodes..?.. anyone else getting nervous
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miss-riposte Ā· 3 years ago
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MLS4 Episodes by Production Code
(aka the closest thing to the correct order) 401 - Truth 402 - Lies 403 - Gang of Secrets 404 - Mr. Pigeon 72 405 - Psycomedian 406 - Furious Fu 407 - Solecrusher 408 - Queen Banana 409 - Gabriel Agreste 410 - Mega Leech 411 - Guiltrip 412 - Crocoduel 413 - Optigami 414 - Sentibubbler 415 - Glaciator 2 416 - Hack-San 417 - Rocketear 418 - Wishmaker 419 - Simpleman 420 - Qilin 421 - Dearest Family 422 - Ephermeral 423 - Kuro Neko 424 - Penalteam 425 - Risk 426 - Strike Back
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hayaku14 Ā· 4 years ago
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adrienette and ladynoir stans are FED
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lycorogue Ā· 4 years ago
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Thoughts about episode ā€œLieā€
Okay. Here we are. This is back to the better writing I was talking about the other day. I love me parallel stories, so this was just *chef kiss* in that department.Ā 
Before I delve into my thoughts on the episode itself, I want to take a step back and talk about my views of the non-love-square ships Lukanette and Adrigami. (Feel free to skip ahead; I have a header for when I start talking about this episode again)
Lukanette and Adrigami
For me, Marinette and Luka had romantic chemistry from the word go. As much of a Marichat shipper as I am, I knew that if anyone could make Marinette forget about Adrien, it wouldnā€™t have been Chat Noir. It would be Luka. Chat Noir would then come in at a close 3rd (a bit ironically) when it comes to Marinetteā€™s heart. Meanwhile, Kagami slowly grew to have a crush on Adrien post-Riposte, and then charged forward knowing exactly who she wanted. On the flipside, though, I stand firm that there wasnā€™t really much romantic interest coming from Adrien. If anyone was going to make Adrien forget about Ladybug, it would be Marinette; not Kagami.
The episodeĀ ā€œFrozerā€ - the one where Kagami makes her crush known for the first time, and Adrien first attempts dating her - practically gives us some foreshadowing of their entire relationship. Aside from clearly finding Kagami attractive (as showcased by the pink-bubbles-vision when Adrien first sees her sans-helmet inĀ ā€œRiposteā€), he doesnā€™t seem to have any romantic inclination towards Kagami until after she cups his cheek and lets him know, in not so many words, that she likes him. Even so, it isnā€™t until Marinette basically gives the thumbs up that he should pursue this relationship does he give it a try. Heā€™s still very uncomfortable around her, and only gets a bit more comfortable inĀ ā€œAnimaestroā€; probably because heā€™s seen his father around Kagamiā€™s mom and just mimics that (as seen inĀ ā€œBackwarderā€). Going back toĀ ā€œFrozerā€ though, Adrien spends most of his time with Kagami watching Marinette, and even abandons Kagami in favor of checking in on Marinette - something Luka could have easily done and probably doesnā€™t because he sees Adrien already on it and knows Marinette would prefer Adrienā€™s comfort. So Luka doesnā€™t push the issue. That whole ice rink interaction shows that, while Luka trumps Chat Noir as a potential alternative love interest for Marinette, Marinette still surpasses Kagami as a potential alternative love interest for Adrien. This, for me, is again hinted at in the episode Heart Hunter where, while enjoying himself seemingly equally with both girls, thereā€™s just these little hints - complimenting Marinette more than Kagami, asking Marinette to choose the ice cream - that, at least subconsciously, Adrien is leaning a touch more towards Marinette over Kagami. His heart just isnā€™t all that into this relationship. This is again showcased in the New York special when Adrien (at least in the English dub; I havenā€™t watched it in other languages) asks Marinette to dance with him with an almost pleading tone in his voice. (To be fair, clearly Marinette isnā€™t thinking of Luka at all during that trip either...)
I think the final Foreshadowing nail in the Adrigami coffin is this dialogue fromĀ ā€œFrozerā€:
Kagami:Ā ā€œYou still keep doing what other people want you to do.ā€ Adrien:Ā ā€œNo, I just want him to be happy.ā€
In the end, Adrien did the same thing with Kagami: he did what he thought would make her happy because heā€™s a people pleaser to his core.
Adrien of course found Kagami attractive and fun to hang out with. She was a fantastic companion, and I love their companionship so much.Ā However, I feel like he dated her mostly because he knew he had to find some way of getting over Ladybug, and hereā€™s this pretty girl who clearly has a thing for him, so why not???? Their parents were practically setting them up as a couple anyway, between the trip to the royal wedding and the movie premiere. Plus, thisĀ ā€œapprovedā€ friend meant he could spend more time outside of his fatherā€™s house while genuinely enjoying the company. Win-win. He then did all the pseudo-dating stuff heā€™s clearly witnessed in media; kind of following a play-book as it were.Ā 
However, he never did anything even remotely romantic or flirty towards Kagami that was on par with his romantic gestures and flirtations towards Ladybug (or even Marinette, for that matter). His love language is obvious after watching him with Ladybug, and he uses some of that same language (albeit subconsciously... probably...) while interacting with Marinette. Things like leaning in playfully (ending ofĀ ā€œTroublemakerā€ and when asking Marinette for a macaron inĀ ā€œDespair Bearā€), sharing a romantic picnic (ā€œGlaciatorā€) even if it was just to cheer Marinette up, winking (the endless winking in too many episodes to list here), whispering in her ear (ā€œDespair Bearā€ and one other that I canā€™t recall right now), Soft SmilesTM (ā€œChameleonā€, pretty much all of the NY special, tons of season 3 episodes), confessing insecurities or secrets (ā€œGamerā€ andĀ ā€œGorizillaā€), or asking her to dance (ā€œDespair Bearā€ andĀ ā€œNY Specialā€). Iā€™m sure thereā€™s tons more and each example has more episodes itā€™s showcased in, but you get the idea. Alternatively, Adrien just never used that same love language with Kagami. With her itĀ all felt like calculated moves; it was expected of him to lean in for the kiss in ā€œHeart Hunterā€ and ā€œMiracle Queenā€, or wipe away the smudge of ice cream by Kagamiā€™s mouth, so he did it. Aside from his protectiveness and care for Kagami inĀ ā€œOnichanā€, Adrien never really treated Kagami any different than his other friends.
Marinette, on the other hand, does show some of her love language towards Luka. She blushes around him and does that bashful little shoulder shrug. She makes excuses to touch his arms, hands, chest, or back. She literally leans on him. She has an interest in his interests and even goes above and beyond for gifts, such as the necklace (yay; Luka looks so good in a necklace!) and, unofficially, the contract with Bob Roth for Kitty Section.Ā 
Granted, she doesnā€™t flirt with Luka like she does with Chat Noir, but, as someone who also used to flirt with my guy friends without truly realizing the romantic implications (I was a disaster as a teen, okay?), I donā€™t know if Marinette has truly realized how flirting is part of her love language. If she is anything like I was, flirting is more a fun past-time to see if you could get a rise out of someone in some sort of sextual-tension game of chicken or something. Itā€™s not something you do with someone you have serious feelings for. šŸ˜
Back to Kagami though. I want to stress that, while I didnā€™t see any romantic future for Adrigami, I do still very much like Kagami and appreciated the character development the writers gave her. I love her as one of Marinetteā€™s potential friends and, as I mentioned, a companion for Adrien. I just never saw any romantic interest coming from Adrien towards Kagami. He never even truly seemed himself around her the way he is around Ladybug or Marinette. I donā€™t think heā€™s comfortable enough to not be Textbook BoyfriendTM around Kagami. He even mentions in this episode that him being a clown IS the real him and she calls bullshit (although @gale-gentlepenguinā€‹ does have some nice commentary on how even that wasnā€™t exactly truthful and Kagami was right to call him out). Point being, Adrien loves to be nerdy and goofy and playful, and she just doesnā€™t get that????? A lot of what Adrien likes she seems to dismiss.
Iā€™m sorry, Adrigami shippers. There could have been potential there as these two grew, but as it stood? I just didnā€™t see it.
The EpisodeĀ ā€œLieā€
Going back to my thoughts on ā€œLieā€ though with all of that above commentary for context. I just feel a bit cheated that Clearly-Thereā€™s-Mutual-Pining Lukanette gets ONE kiss lean-in for the wholeĀ ā€œlove rivalā€ arc theyā€™ve had set up for 1.5 seasons before the relationship implodes, but Clearly-Only-One-Has-Feelings-And-The-Other-Is-Just-Kinda-Going-Along-With-It-Because-Hey-He-Likes-Hanging-Out-With-Her-And-Sheā€™s-Cute-So-Why-Not Adrigami has THREE kiss lean-ins in THIS ONE EPISODE ALONE (not to mention the 2 from Heart Hunter/Miracle Queen)!? Like I said, I feel a bit robbed, but... well fed, Adrigami shippers, I guess...
Anyway, my heart hurts so much because yes, Kagami deserves someone who will take the time to be with her (just like how Luka deserves the same), but also, itā€™s not like Adrien WANTED to abandon her (much like Marinette not wanting to abandon Luka). These poor kids. All four of them. My heart breaks. šŸ˜¢
I did feel a much stronger emotional gut-punch with this episode, which is surprising because a) we already saw a good 5-10 min of it inĀ ā€œTruthā€ so this episode was essentially shorter than the premiere, and b) Iā€™m a much stronger Lukanette shipper than an Adrigami shipper (see above). So, bravo to the writers on this episode. I hate that this team broke so many hearts, but this is the caliber of writing I was hoping for.Ā 
(I know Marinette is the Guardian, but can we agree to have more Adrien-centric stories, please? Theyā€™re just so good).
My final thoughts though: WHY ON EARTH DID THE WRITERS EVEN BOTHER WITH THEĀ ā€œLOVE SQUARE RIVALSā€ STORY LINE IF THEY WERENā€™T GOING TO FOLLOW THROUGH!? ADRIGAMI AND LUKANETTE FINALLY GET TOGETHER AFTER 1.5 SEASONS ONLY FOR THE RELATIONSHIPS TO BE DOA BASICALLY THE NEXT EPISODE!? WHY!? TO RESET THE STATUS QUO THEY WORKED SO HARD TO SHAKE UP!? I already talked Friday about the lost story potential with Lukanette, but thereā€™s also a lot Adrien could have learned from his relationship with Kagami.Ā 
Adrien is still VERY vocal about his love, and, while he has learned a lot, matured a lot, and has eased up a lot, Adrien does still semi-burden Ladybug with his feelings; something Luka never did to Marinette. Adrien, possibly due to witnessing his parents - I have theories about the romance dynamic between Emilie and Gabriel - seems to have this view of love being okay even if unbalanced. Ladybug is far more powerful and crucial to the protection of Paris, but they are still partners and equals in their eyes. So maybe he feels the same about love; he may be more romantically devoted to her, but as long as Ladybug loves him even a little, itā€™s like theyā€™re equals in romance... right???? So... yeah, a more balanced relationship with Kagami could have taught him how important a romantic balance is as well. Plus, if I am right in my assumption that he just kind of went along with the relationship because he thought it was expected, then he could have also learned something about being a people-pleaser. There was a lot of growth potential for both Marinette and Adrien in these non-love-square relationships, and it just feels squandered.
Also, as I mentioned with my review ofĀ ā€œTruthā€, Iā€™m fearing that the writers are kind of railroading the Ladynoir ship. First, thereā€™s Marinette realizing that she canā€™t have a boyfriend because he wouldnā€™t be safe, nor could she be truthful to him about why their time was so limited. The exception being Chat Noir, who can very much protect himself (except for when heā€™s shielding Ladybug, but she yelled at him for that inĀ ā€œLieā€), and she can be fully honest with him as long as it doesnā€™t involve their identities, and he very much knows and understands their time restrictions. In fact, he even goes so far as to state that ANY time with her is a gift he cherishes. Heā€™s basically the perfect boyfriend for her in her situation; she just needs to be lonely enough toĀ ā€œrealizeā€ it. >3> On the Adrien side of things, Kagami tells him that she canā€™t trust someone who isnā€™t honest with her, but thereā€™s Ladybug: fully understanding and completely trusts him even when she knows heā€™s lying. She also doesnā€™t fault him for their lack of time together and understands if he needs to run away without a momentā€™s notice. Heā€™s already in love with her, but this whole situation just paints her even more as the perfect romantic partner for him. I get it, but I also hate it. I hate this feeling of this one corner of the love square being railroaded. It basically dismisses the other 3 corners as possibilities right alongside the Lukanette and Adrigami ships.
All that grumbling aside, I would like to give some applause to how the episode ended. I very much enjoyed that Kagami was like,Ā ā€œnope. You lied to me, and I canā€™t trust you, so we canā€™t be friends. I need time away from you. Iā€™ll let you know if weā€™re ever okay again.ā€ It shows the consequences of playing with someoneā€™s emotions, even if under the best intentions. It also shows that itā€™s perfectly okay to cut out toxic relationships, even if the other person didnā€™t intend any harm. Well-intentioned people can still cause toxic relationships, and if you need to step away from them (as Kagami did), then you are completely valid in that decision. Itā€™s an important lesson for kids to learn, I think. Iā€™m just worried that Kagami brushing off even being Adrienā€™s friend (while justified) might mean not really seeing her in the show anymore, and that would be a shame. šŸ˜Ÿ I do enjoy her as a character, and would love to see more of her growth. Plus, she is so limited in social interactions as-is, so I hope we see more Kagami and Marinette friendship growth.
I am also interested in how Adrien reacts to the knowledge that he can indeed ruin his friendships with people if they arenā€™t in the same emotional space. This is most likely whatā€™s preventing Marinette from confessing: fear that Adrien will reject her so severely that he might not even want to be her friend anymore. So having Adrien now possibly have that fear as well has some interesting story potential (if the writers donā€™t drop the ball like they did with the Lukanette/Adrigami ships). Meanwhile, having a dejected Luka still offering friendship and support to Marinette - something clearly Adrien assumed would happen with Kagami; once a friend, always a friend - might give her the confidence to confess to Adrien, now trusting that they are good enough friends and heā€™s a kind enough person that they can still remain friends even if he doesnā€™t return her feelings.
Thereā€™s a lot of potential birthed from these opening episodes, but especially fromĀ ā€œLieā€ and Iā€™m interested to see what the rest of the season is going to look like now.
Also... ARE WE SURE THAT LUCKY CHARM BRACELET IS ACTUALLY LUCKY!? ITā€™S BEEN THE HIDING SPOT FOR AN AKUMA TWICE NOW!
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chippa-thoughts Ā· 5 years ago
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Will Marinette reveal her identity to her parents?
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Y'all, if Marinette goes travelling around the world to find lost kwamis you reckon a season 4 plotpoint might be that she reveals her identity to her family (maybe even Alya) so they understand the importance of her quest to travel around the world? Why else would they allow their 14/15yr old daughter to explore the world? And is she going alone?!
OR HECK.
WHAT IF THERE'S A TIME SKIP?
What if we get an older, season 5 Ladybug who's graduated and old enough to travel the world on her own?
EDIT: YES! Or perhaps in the end, she will just use the horse miraculous!
What do you all think?
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pillowfreak1d Ā· 3 years ago
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I wonder what happen to the t-Rex from rocketear.
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ladyheger Ā· 3 years ago
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Psychomedian
FINALLY
FINALLY AND FINALLY AN EPISODE WHERE LADYBUG IS THE ONE VULNERABLE BY THE VILLAIN'S ATTACK AND CHAT NOIR ISN'T EVER
4 SEASONS
4 SEASONS
THE ONLY EPISODE THIS HAPPENS IS PSYCHOMEDIAN
FOUR
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darkietrashcan Ā· 3 years ago
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MLS4Ā ā€œRISKā€ SPOILERS - FELIX ONLY DEACTIVATED ONE CAMERA!!! BUT THERE WERE MORE THAN ONE!!!
TUM GUYS SO I REWATCHED THE COLLECTOR AND NOTICED THE FOLLOWING:
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When Adrien discovered the existence of the Grimoire, he got spotted from TWO DIFFERENT CAMERAS.Ā One camera is located INSIDE the safe, and another outside the safe.Ā 
AND FƉLIX ONLY DEACTIVATED THE CAMERA INSIDE THE SAFE, NOT THE ONE THAT WAS OUTSIDE!!Ā 
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(And if he did deactivate every single camera in the room, maybe it happened off-screen. But if it had been so, then, why wasnā€™t it shown? Why did they only show how Felix deactivated the camera inside the safe and not the ones outside the safe, too? To save budget? To save time? I donā€™t thinks so. Somethingā€™s fishy.)
And Iā€™ll be clowned if Felix does not get discovered after this.Ā Ā 
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miraculous-monogatari Ā· 4 years ago
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DA HECK NOW KAGAMI IS CALLING ADRIEN PERFECT TOO??? MAKE it STAHPPPP
Sentimonster!Adrien?
Freaking out since the new ladybug episode came out and some people came up with the theory that Adrien is a Sentimonster and it makes a little sense. Just trying to gather thoughts to unscramble and may add on later with more info.
Maybe this is too dark for a kids show but remember the PV! ML was originally supposed to be much darker!
They have been referencing the PV a few times throughout the series too.
Remember the one concept art where Adrien has a cane? He is clearly NOT PERFECT THERE but okay.
Sentimonsters are sentient creatures. Some more elaborate than others. Chat Noir called Senti!bug "perfect".
It was strongly hinted that Emilie was the previous Peacock miraculous holder. Also pointed out the damaged miraculous was the reason Nathalie was getting weaker.
Uhhh. Gabriel very obviously disregards his son's feelings and safety. He exerts the bare minimum to show how much he cares. I think he cares about Adrien the same way he cares about the miraculous book from Tibet: one of the last few "things" left to him by Emilie. He is starting to make me uncomfortable BUT if Adrien was a Sentimonster and not really his son, some of the things that are said by him, especially as Hawkmoth, that sounded contradictory might be less contradictory if he doesn't believe Adrien to be his true son.
Maybe he created Adrien together with Emilie with peacock & butterfly combined and that's why he's more desperate to get Emilie back.
We've seen it pointed out that both Gabriel (in Simon Says) and Astruc (Twitter response to Marinette & Adrien's flaws) called Adrien as perfect. And Marinette/LB said she could never be perfect like the Senti!LB was. Note, he also said Adrien's flaw is that he is not accustomed to the "outside" world. With quotes on "outside".
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We've seen many times Adrien mentioning never having friends before.
We have also have seen Adrien Agreste & Marinette's name meaning interpreted.
Adrien is the French variation of the name Adrian, commonly "Of the coast" but less commonly "Dark/Dark Richness". Hmmmmmm. Agreste apparently the word for greyling butterfly, but I couldn't find a good source for that that linked the name meaning but here we go.:
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We see Marinette Dupain-Cheng's name translated as "The Girl Who Rises to Make the Bread" which. Makes sense because her parents are bakers.
But uh. What about if you think about the biblical meaning of bread? Where bread = life? There aren't many Bible references in ML but hear me out.
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Wow! Bread = miracles in the New testament! But what is fecundity??? I've never heard of that word before.....
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HOLY SHIT.
The ability to produce many new ideas. Kind of like. What Mari!LB does with the lucky charms.
I don't know. Maybe... Marinette is going to Pinocchio the shit out of Adrien and turn him into a real boy. Or something like today. A miracle. She wanted to leave Senti!bug (and free, she said) but Mayura made that a bit impossible.
You know who hates and fears being caged up and locked up? Hmmmm????? *ADRIEN*
Y'all. Y'ALL. IT'S MIDNIGHT and I'm sorry that I'm not very coherent and maybe tomorrow I can make more cohesive thoughts. I didn't want to lose my train of ideas so I'm trying to get it all out now. Maybe someone younger and smarter than me can figure out how they all connect. Or I'll try tomorrow when I have time to write down everything in some kind of order.
Sorry for the rambling. Goodnight.
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kwamihitman Ā· 3 years ago
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soooo. whoā€™s supposed to be the super secret villain whoā€™s been hiding all along? because iā€™m not quite sure i have the bandwidth for that right now
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