#miraculous finale

[schsas]

based on this post by @settledownsummer :3333

[masternia]

How it started:

How it’s going:

[excusez-moi-heh]

Caught up with the series earlier and may I just say,

what a moment.

[nabu630]

Wait wait wait, your telling me that we went through 5 seasons of miraculous ladybug WITHOUT A REVEAL! Yet somehow Adrien and Marinette are actually dating.

I can only imagine the date like

*akuma alert*

Marinette and adrien: I have to go to the bathroom!

[pidshtaniki]

if he asked Lady Bug for a rabbit miraculous , then he could fix everything

[black--butterflies]

So you're telling me that....

Oh, come on!!!

[hades-999]

🦋Miraculous finale🐞🐈‍⬛

Hello. Long time no post, and that's on me. Since this week the Miraculous final season's finale become a year old, I wanted to tell my oppinion about it... If you havent seen it, that's on you, but obviously, spoiler than... (Keep it in mind, time of now, the last M.Word; London, At the Edge of time did not come out yet...)

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So, the main thing I wanted to discuss is Gabriel and his ✨Wish✨.

First; I liked this ending (I know many did not). I felt belivable... First problem of mine, hearing Gabriel got redeemed... He did not, in my book. Yes, he got the Wish, and said to be a hero. But disect this a bit....

He was looked at as a hero, because Ladybug said he was one. Not neceserly because she liked Gabriel, but she tried to save Adrien from the pain and abuse or negative feedback he would get for his father being a supervillain. And Ms. Tsurugi supported this lie. The seria did not made him a hero, they gave characters reasons to lie about it, so he looks like one

I think Gabriel is more of an antagonistic anti-hero, than neceserly a supervillain. Think about it; yes, he endangered peaple, but never directly tried to harm anybody. And even if he did; he was aware that he can do anything back. He had no evil intentions, and while this concept can't be translated well to reality -since here there's no reset button- he thought of these things as reversable casulties, so, despite being a bit neglect about who he harms, he rarely went for a kill, and in his word, he could have do that back...kinda. And if he failed, the MLB fixed everything, so.... No harm done.

His change of heart wasn't out of nowhere. We know he is heavely influenced by Emillie, so hearing her was a belivable change. And he still got the Miraculous. He did not changed what he belived, but he changed how he wanted to end this. And it was in a belivable way. He wasn't malicious, he even offered Bug noire to make the Whish... He did not wanted to cause bad, he just wanted to reach a goal, so he did. Remind you, he had the Cat Miraculous 🐈‍⬛, he could have Cataclysmed Marinette, but he did not.

Lastly, he kinda had to. Yes, he could have simply not get Cataclysmed... But he was dieing, so was Nathalie and his wife was kinda already dead. And oke, it was cute and nice of Marinette to encourage him to find alternative ... But heck, he did not had an alternative, death and loosing your family is not something you could solve... Best, handle emotionally, but that can't really be considered a "sollution" in a word of superpowers... So, here, I kinda had to say, yeah, he was in the right to try to make something....

A bit of sidetrack before my next topic; you vould say "But he messed up in evo, not giving himshelf the pendrive!!!" Yes, true, but consider; in Cat blank, Bunnix senced a change in ~4 years , they would have noticed a ~14 year change, so the heroes -whoes also have time travel at the time- coupld have change it... But if he took their Miraculous, he could have made the Wish... Yes, it was a risk not paying off, but having the messed up time travel not-mechanics the show has, it's not necesarly a stupid idea...

My other point is, many claims he wasn't a good father, he shouldn't ask Marinette to try make Adrien remember him as one... Well... I would say, it's not true;

First, and foremost, spoiler, but Adrien is possibly a Sentibeing. I agree, he should had have any rights to freedome. But sentibeing are considered kinda fragile, as can be controlled or snapped away. Adding Gabriel overprotective nature over his loved ones, of course he sheltered his son

Yes, he was strickt, but consider the previous point, plus, he usually changed his mind; he let Adrien go to the picknic, the musical festival on Anarcha's ship, he could go to New York.... Even when Adrien run away to watch his mother's movie, he did not punished him, but sit with him and watched his copy with him (as we learn from the episode, Adrien did not even asked him in the first place)

Maybe I'm wrong, but I do not remember akumatizing peaple who targeted Adrien directly. Style queen comes to mind, but her target was Gabriel at the first place, and he deeply regreted it, almost giving up the whole thing.... Also, I have the asumption, he did not akumatized Adrien, becsuse he was vorried he might got Cataclysmed.... Think about it: he only did it, when he learned he was Cat noir, so he won't cataclysm himshelf, or when he would wear an Aliance ring, so he could give him Resistance,which would make him imperviou to the power... Aso-also, when he senced his negative emotions, he tried to discuss it... Given it was resultless, but he did tried.

He tried to make him and Kagami a pair, despite his will, but again; consider, he never forced his will on Adrien to do so. Yes, he tried to ban him from Marinette, but he never actually forced him to do anything with Kagami, despite his will. That wpuld be a topic of it's own, but I try zo make it short. If my interpretatoon is correct, he saw Adrien as a being made from the concept/idea of perfection. And, as such, of course any human would want him, as Adrien being literally "perfect" (for Marinette too). But a senti-being, such as Kagami (supposadly) would understand his existence, and as a senti, she was kinda made perfect as well... They literally were "made for ea h other"... And why would Adrien deserve less?

Last thing, I belive he belived that he does the best for Adrien too. Yes, sometimes he should have ask him, because he should have his say in it... But sometimey he choosed to decide insted of him... Partially was right, because he had the bigger picture, and many times was wrong, since he shouldn't decide on a fate of others... But, as I interpretate the end of the episode, I have a theory; at the end, he wished to fulfill Adrien's desires or Wish, and he sacrificed his own Wish

So, in concludion;

I feel Gabriel wasn't redeemed, and I strongly disagree with saying his was or should have been a hero. He is said to be one, which is in my book a completly different thing, because many things can be said without being truthful. But he had a goal, nobel or not, you decide, and he was faithful to it. He did it to help the ones he loved, and did not intended harm, as he saw any dammage as reversable. He wasn't always a good person or dad, but he tried to be one, on many occasion (sometimes failing, sometimes succseding).

So, was it a good conclusion of the story? If it's "good" or not, you decide,but I feel it was belivable, and I enjoyed it🙂

Hope you did too, have a nice day, and thanks @stopaskingmetowearthatwig for inspiring this post with his endless dedication, work and love in the Gabenath fandom 🦋🩷🦚

[nixthelapin]

For the upcoming Miraculous special…

What do y’all think Toxinelle (bc I refuse to call her Shadybug) and Claw Noir’s goal is in the alternate universe?

It’s obviously not the Wish, bc they already have the ladybug and black cat, so what else could it be? Just to cause chaos??

[amanemisagf]

miraculous s5 finale spoilers!!

something about the finale reminds me of the original sailor moon anime s1 finale where everyone is back to normal and alive and looks happy but there’s a catch, that time has reset. the new world with everything eco friendly and even the idyllic nature of everyone by the pool happy in the light seems too good to be true, and with the paris special coming up about an alternate universe i wonder if the wish transported them into some sort of dream world or alternate timeline? especially because the wish was hyped up to have consequences and though it could just be bad writing gabriel’s life for emilie’s doesn’t seem fair because he was about to die anyway and what about nathalie? idk i’m probably thinking too deep into things but wanted to share my ramblings in case anyone has coherent additions.

[bellzsad]

my gabenath journey is one that’s funky, but similar and common to a lot of other miraculous viewers.

i started out shipping it, purely because there was no one else i could’ve shipped gabriel or nathalie with. sure, there was gorilla for nathalie (i guess?) but this did not make sense so i shut it down immediately. anyway, as the seasons went by, i saw it as “cute” because of the little moments they had. but then, as soon as season four hit, i realized how fucking toxic this relationship was.

and we see this developed even more in season five especially. nathalie confronts gabriel, but he just shrugs it off. he cares more about emilie than her, and while nathalie is literally dying, gabriel is just standing in his basement trying to steal two pieces of jewelry. and he barely showed any remorse for it, too. he was just like “oh, you’re dying? that’s too bad, i’m sorry i let you do this, but oh well. anyways see you later, gotta go terrorize the city. brb” like HELLO?!

it’s so toxic. i hate this ship now, like just give me amelie x nathalie at this point because we have two boss women dangling in front of our faces. or if emilie is confirmed to have come back, emilie x nathalie would be even better. that’s so badass omfg.

but in conclusions, gabenath can go rot in hell, but it’s all gabriel’s fault. queen nathalie slays

[azureroses1]

So the moral of miraculous ladybug is…

TEENAGE GIRLS ARE THE ACTUAL VILLAINS AND THE ONE TRUE EVIL, THEY ARE IRREDEEMABLE AND DESERVE IT

Gabriel is just a baby who made a whittle mistake he’s redeemable and is deserving of such

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SO THE ABUSER IS THE HERO WHILE THE ABUSED ARE THE VILLAINS FROM WHAT I GATHER

[ani-tolaat-bli-toelet]

Gabriel: Marinette, would you please gaslight my son for me one last time?

Marinette: sure

[masternia]

I’m so bored- someone chat with me- idc if it’s Feligami, Ladynoir, favorite characters, season 5 finale, season 6 theories, complaints abt the show ANYTHING YALL- my ask box is open and I love MLB discussions 😭😭

[excusez-moi-heh]

Love her fr

[superstarhodaya]

you know it’s not a kids show when it makes you cry and rethink the meaning of life.

[diorshazee]

can we just take a minute to appreciate how gorgeous bugnoire’s outfit is

ft piano that is my new fav character