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Chloeās Arc vs Felixās Arc
Chloe and Felix share many similarities as characters and yet their stories have completely different outcomes and I want to try and analyze why. I think both of them share similar stories with different outcomes to show how different actions taken by similar people can have drastically different results
On a surface level it may seem like Felix and Chloe arenāt similar, and yes they do have many differences between them that make them different people entirely, but they both have many of the same types of background and suffered similar kinds of abuse and developed negative mindsets about the world because of it
They are both rich children both to influential families that shaped their lives. Each of them had an abusive parent but in different ways: Chloeās mother abandoned her and her father indulged her bad behavior to avoid being abused himself. Felixās father abused Felix mentally and emotionally and even Physically since he would use Felixās miraculous to control what he what physically couldnāt and couldnāt do. We donāt know about how his mother raised him, but I saw an interesting post on Twitter analyzing a moment from the play Felix and Kagami did (itās linked somewhere on Twitter but Iām having trouble finding it so I canāt give credit where itās due). The bunny that Felix holds at one point is supposed to represent Felixās mother (thereās a screenshot somewhere of Amelie wearing a rabbit mask) and the moment where the arm is torn represents that his father abused her as well. This may have caused her to be indulgent of her son to try and make him happy, especially after her husband died, since they were both finally free of his abuse and cruelty
They both have incredible power and financial means as well as a warped view of the world due to their upbringing. Chloe sees everyone as beneath her cause thatās how she feels better about herself and how her mother acted and encouraged Chloe to act when she was actually around. Felix suffered abuse from someone who had power over him, developing a cold and closed off personality, putting others down as well, unwilling to allow himself to open himself up to be used and abused again, causing him to look down on others cause he was trying to protect himself (and his mother).
They also both tried to Sabotage Adrienās relationshipās at some point too. Chloe tried so she could have Adrien, her āprince,ā all to herself and could torture Marinette; Felix did this for unknown reasons but I hypothesize it was a combination of trying to get HawkMothās attention by making Adrienās friends angry enough to be akumatized and out of jealousy that Adrien seemed to have loving friends. Or maybe in his head he also thought he was protecting Adrien from people who were just out to use him rather than actually cared about him, since he never really had any friends of his own and couldnāt believe they were genuine (but thatās my own headcannon, thereās no proof of it).
Adrien also both gave them second chances. In Chloeās case, it started in Season 2 in Despair Bear. Then later in Derision after he learned the Hell she put Marinette through the years before in school (weāll come back to that one in a bit). In Felixās debut episode, Adrien did confront him on what he did, and forgave Felix when he apologized, but only after he made it clear that what Felix did was NOT OK and would not forgive him if he did it again.
Hereās where their story lines start to divulge: what they do after Adrien calls each of them out. They both take different routes. Chloe still bullied Marinetteās and the others and tries to keep Adrien to herself (which really only actively starts up again after the Season 3 finale). In the season 4 episode Gabriel Agreste, she plans to reveal to Gabriel the classes attempts to help Adrien escape his home (and by extension reveal Marinetteās feelings) so heāll take Adrien of school and make sure only she can visit him. In that very same episode Felix comes back.
Now, on the surface, it seems like Felix hasnāt changed. Heās cold and closed off, gives Gabriel a fake ring back, makes fun of Chloe and avoids interacting with everyone else, including Kagami. But hereās the thing no one notices: heās not actively trying to sabotage Adrienās relationships this episode. When he and Kagami are alone in the room, he doesnāt say anything to try and manipulate her, not try to make Adrien look bad. Granted, he probably had more important things on his mind, investigating Gabriel, but itās still a small improvement. Then thereās the BIG moment in the episode where Gabriel tries to trick Felix and akumatize him: Felix flat out REJECTS it.
This is significant for two reasons: at this point in the timeline, this is only the third time weāve seen a character actually reject an akumatization based on will alone. The first, funnily enough, was Chloe back in season 3, Miraculer. She refused to be Akumatized and manipulated to try and be better per Ladybugās advice. The second person to do it was Alya in Gang of Secrets earlier in season 4. Felix (at this point) is only the third character to do this. Thatās huge
The second reason is he outright refused to be akumatized at all, rejecting any power offer. In his debut episode, it seemed like he wanted to work with HawkMoth, but here heās not. Outright refused powers from someone who can literally give them. (Side note, Gabriel is also threatening Felixās life here by threatening to make him disappear, since he had the peacock miraculous repaired now, and I have a theory as to why it broke in the first place). In the previous episode Queen Banana, Chloe even had a conversation with HawkMoth and readily accepted; showing she was no longer just being manipulated when the butterfly came into contact with her. She could have rejected it (and later did in Penalteam), but still accepted the power. Felix didnāt at all. So we start to think, maybe Felix isnāt that bad? Maybe heās better than Chloe right?
Then he went and betrayed Ladybug and gave Gabriel all the miraculous in exchange for the Peacock. He didnāt care about the people he hurt or betrayed or doomed in pursuit of his own goals, getting his hand on the Peacock miraculous. Chloe, in similar fashion, wanted the Bee Miraculous back, and allied with HawkMoth when he offered it to her in the season 3 finale. And even in his small scene in season 5 episode 2, when he shows up and his mom is shown to have lies to Ladybug and Cat Noir to protect (or enable) her son, our suspicions about his motives and allegiances are confirmed true.
So far, his story is like Chloeās: a rich, spoiled kid with an abusive parent (father) and the other parent as an enabler, looking down on everyone not at his level, acting cruel for the sake of it,, working with Hawkmoth to get their hands on a miraculous, and not regretting any of his bad choices and acting in his own self interest without caring about how it impacts others around him.
Letās head back to Chloe for a second since weāve focused on Felix and thereās a gap between his appearances in season 5. In the episode Derision, Adrien finally learns the true extent of the torture she put a Marinette through. He may not have heard about the smaller stuff from Kim, like leaving bugs in her locker and paint on her seats, but he learned of the horrendous āprankā she and Kim pulled on Marinette and immediately was furious. I mean, he tried to Cataclysm Kimās face a few minutes later (I donāt blame him).
Adrien finally learned the true extent of Chloeās cruelty and evil. So he decides to give her one last chance. He tells her to apologize cause he believes she can change. And sheās shown sheās capable of it. But this time, instead of trying to plead his forgiveness, she just laughs in his face now. She refuses to try being good anymore and outright tells Adrien, her āPrinceā, the boy she always called her friend and seemed to care for one some real level, wrong and tries to convince him that she is better. Sheās completely given up on any semblance of trying to good, or even just acting like sheās doing it to lease Adrien anymore. Sheās done. Sheās revealed her true colors to him. And Adrien is done with her. Sheās not even sad about it anymore, just angry and annoyed that he betrayed her.
We see here that even though it seemed like she did care about Adrien enough to try and change or be better, she no longer does. Maybe she never did. She still sees him as some sort of prop or tool or prize that she deserves. Now letās head back to Felix and the episode Emotion and how it displays both Felixās growth and Chloeās regression
***note, I have a full post on Felix and his actions in the episode Emption as well if you want to read it
Emotion happens and we see the true differences between the characters, and we learn more about Felix here too. Until now it seems like Felix has his own sinister reasons for allying with HawkMoth and is nothing but a male version of Chloe. But we see the differences here now. He tries to talk to Kagami (posing as Adrien) and doesnāt try to ruin their relationship, in fact apologizing when Kagami tells him that since theyāre no longer dating the hand kiss was too far (learning about consent is good young man, but you still have to apologize to Ldybug!). He even tries to bond with her. Meanwhile Chloe had unwittingly ābefriendedā Marinette at the party and insists on showing her around, bragging about servants and robots and money and the like. Then the King and Queen are supposed to dance.
When Marinette reveals herself to them, you can see the differences in their characters in the ways they react. Marinette gives āAdrienā a heartfelt speech, saying she loves him, how she understands why he didnāt tell her about the dance and isnāt mad or betrayed, how she understands his father is forcing hot to do this and doesnāt blame him, and that she trusts him and loves him no matter what. Chloe is obsessed with the fact the baker girl broke into the dance, wanting her kicked out immediately. Felix by contrast is shocked, and then smiles and dances with her. Heās still acting as Adrien so it could be a cover, but I think he was genuinely loved by her words. Until now heās never interacted with someone who honest, even if it would get them in trouble or hurt them. When Marinette starts getting self conscious and saying they think sheās a monster, he gets angry and says that they are the monsters.
Then Chloe gets so mad that she outright attacks Marinette and Felix then reveals himself. He starts snapping everyone away, but doesnāt do so with Marinette. He takes her away and hides her rather than just snapping her away for later. He doesnāt want to hurt someone who genuinely cares for his cousin. Then after he snaps the rest of the world away except for himself and Kagami (and be believed Marinette) he brings Adrien back and is overjoyed! He is happy cause he thinks he freed them and wants to have them all live together and be free and happy, (like he never was with his father)
Now we see thereās more to him that a cruel Chloe copy: he wants to help those he cares but is INCREDIBLY misguided, he thinks the only way he can think to help is to take the extreme and completely cut off anyone else who they donāt know or could possibly hurt them in the future, that thereās no one else good in the world except for Adrien and his mother (then later Kagami and Marinette). And we also see him regret his actions when he hurt the people he cared about. When he couldnāt bring back Marinette, he panicked and brought back everyone cause he didnāt want to hurt Adrien.
This is another Major difference between Chloe and Felix. Felixās actions are also undoubtedly selfish and cruel (snapping away the entire world? Damn), but beneath that thereās a twisted and warped sense of protection and care behind it. He did it to save his loved ones. He was incredibly wrong in his approach and actions, but he seemed to genuinely want to help. And when Adrien called him out on it and how he was out of control and actually hurting people and him with his powers, Felix immediately stopped. He could have ignored it and snapped him and Kagami away, living alone in his free world, but he didnāt. By contrast, in the episode Revolution, Chloe gets similar powers to send people away, and when Adrien calls her on it she just sends him away too, without a second thought. Lila didnāt even need to say anything to convince Chloe to do it, thatās how little she cares about Adrien.
And their differences donāt stop at Emotion and how they use similar powers. They continue for the rest of their individual appearances in Season 5.
After the Diamond Dance and Felix snaps away Red Moon, he could have stopped there. After this failure and hearing his mother agree with his sentiments about how cruel everyone else in the world is (his mother being someone he loves and looks up, who is now validating his original beliefs), he could have just stopped right there. Instead, after that, he took an interest in Kagami, and also still tried to look out for/after Adrien. Remember, in the Season 3 finale, ladybug also tried to reach out to Chloe again after she made that mistake, and Chloe outright refused to apologize and turned against Ladybug fully. Felix ended up listening to Ladybug in the end, when she told him winning isnāt always what you want, or something like that. He did end up taking her advice.
Then when he saw Kagami being abused emotionally and verbally by her mother (one step forward, one step back; STALKING IS NOT OK YOUNG MAN), he noted how horrible it was and immediately acted to stop it. He kidnapped her and took her away (bad reaction, make that two steps back), but here heās genuinely trying to do good. Heās actively trying to change. Kagami even calls him out on his stalking and kidnapping, and he apologizes and explains he didnāt know what else to do cause he knows what itās like to be abused. Chloe wouldāve just laughed at Kagamiās plight: Adrienās āperfectā friend and ex girlfriend isnāt so perfect and her mother thinks sheās ridiculous too? She would find that utterly amazing and laughable.
Throughout the rest of the episode, Felixās only plan is to protect Kagami, and even Ladybug and Chat Noir realize this when Kagami tells them so. He doesnāt try to fight them anymore and leaves.
Then through Lilaās manipulations and schemes, Chloe becomes mayor of Paris, and again allyās with Monarch to gain powers for herself. Sheās back to her old tricks, and this time is completely unrestrained by her former attachments to Adrien. One last time, she could have turned him down, but in the end she didnāt. This final choice is the metaphorical nail in Chloeās coffin.
**I have another link where I try to analyze Chloeās fall from grace and the reason her story ended the way it did
Thatās a fundamental difference between these two characters which such similar backgrounds: itās how they react to what they did and react to their mistakes and other people calling them out on their actions
Chloe never truly cared that she hurt Adrien despite him being āpreciousā to her, she never truly accepted responsibility except for that one time with Maledictator, and in the end didnāt see how her mother treated her as wrong. And when being good wasnāt as easy or rewarding as she wanted it to be, she stopped trying.
She found that being cruel and mean was easier for her and more immediately rewarding, so she took the easy way. Itās not that difficult to expect, especially the way she was raised: with a snobby, absentee mother, a weak willed father, and all the power of the city at her beck and call. It takes a lot of strength, will, and determination to try and break that cycle, especially as a kid. We see sheās capable but itās hard for her to stay the course of good. All we can hope for is one day sheāll see the error of her ways AND get the help she desperately needs to get her out of abusive home and able to learn healthier and kinder ways to live
By contrast, Felix did realize the error of his ways and actively began to try changing, even though it was really hard. No one trusted him, especially not ladybug or Kagami or Adrien, but he still wanted to try. And he did. When confronted by Ladybug and Car Noir again, he didnāt try to fight them, only intending to protect Kagami. When Kagami told him off and what he was doing wrong he apologized and explained himself and what he was trying to do. He also worked to give her freedom again. Being good is not easy for him either, especially with how often he was hurt and abused when he was young, but heās trying to be better here, and sees that even though itās hard work, heās willing to do it. Hopefully he stays on this path.
#mlb season five#mlb season 5#mlb season 5 spoilers#mlb chloe#mlb felix#chloe bourgeois#felix fathom#mlb s4#character analysis#mlb risk#mlb strike back#mlb derision#mlp multiplication#mlb emotion#mlb revolution#mlb representation#mlb gabriel
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Part 4/5 of my MLP Infection AU!!
This was the part I was most excited for, I literally drew this whole thing just to explain my fan pony species lol
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Spooky Halloween Cerberus Horse Commission for Doge
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Doodle of my edgy ass rainbow dash kinsona, Storm Chase. šš©š„š
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Working on a multiverse thing, thought I might as well show some of the arts for it. Across the Shimmerverse
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happy valentimes i went and dug up a bunch of my old mlp nextgens to redesign after many many years
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(event) could you do a fluttershy and princess cadance that are trans and aroallo?
They're just like me! ^^ Thanks for the ask, I hope you like it!
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Sometimes people get so deep into a fandom that they forget that the rest of us donāt know what their acronyms mean.
A friend of mine just said āMLPFISMā and then got confused when I didnāt recognize the seven letter acronym for a 14 year old tv show that Iāve never seen.
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