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dontmeantobepoliticalbut · 1 year ago
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Donald Trump hit back at Mike Pence on Saturday, saying his former running mate and GOP presidential race rival has “gone to the Dark Side.”
Trump’s renewed criticism of the former vice president came as Pence has sharpened his attacks on his former boss over the events surrounding the Jan. 6 riot at the Capitol and charges Trump faces over the mishandling of classified documents.
“WOW, it’s finally happened!” Trump wrote in a Truth Social post Saturday. “Liddle’ Mike Pence, a man who was about to be ousted as Governor Indiana until I came along and made him V.P., has gone to the Dark Side.”
“I never told a newly embolded … Pence to put me above the Constitution, or that Mike was ‘too honest.’ He’s delusional, and now he wants to show he’s a tough guy,” Trump added.
The Pence campaign began selling merchandise emblazoned with the “Too Honest” phrase in reference to the Jan. 6 indictment unsealed against Trump this week, in which prosecutors say the then-president called out his vice president with the words over his refusal to reject electoral votes during the 2020 election certification process.
Prosecutors on Friday night called a judge’s attention to another social media post from Trump in which they say the former president appeared to declare that he’s “coming after” those he sees as responsible for his legal challenges, raising the specter that he might use evidence to target witnesses.
“If you go after me, I’m coming after you!” Trump wrote in all caps.
Pence defended certifying the 2020 election for Joe Biden in response to jeers and insults from a crowd of Trump supporters outside a campaign event in New Hampshire on Friday.
“Why’d you sell out the people?” a man called out as Pence arrived for a town hall in Londonderry. “Why didn’t you uphold the Constitution?”
“I upheld the Constitution,” Pence said in response. “Read it.”
Pence further criticized Trump this week — without saying his name — over his repeated attempts to overturn the election.
“Today’s indictment serves as an important reminder: anyone who puts himself over the Constitution should never be President of the United States,” Pence said in a statement.
On Saturday, Pence emphasized the gravity of mishandling classified materials at a national security event in New Hampshire.
“We’ve got to be deadly serious about handling classified materials in this country,” Pence said. “I owned up to it,” the former vice president said of his own “inadvertent” handling of documents found at his home in the wake of searches of Trump’s properties.
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tomorrowusa · 1 year ago
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A Trump indictment angle on an old joke.
Just Security, a site based at the Reiss Center on Law and Security at New York University School of Law, has these estimates of Trump's sentence.
How Much Prison Time Does Former President Trump Face? Applying the U.S. Sentencing Guidelines
It's quite complicated and depends on a lot of factors. But if he...
Doesn't take responsibility for his actions (he never does lol)
Gets the low end of the sentencing level on the most serious charge
Is sentenced to concurrent terms rather than consecutive ones
... his sentence would likely be 210 months (17.5 years). He'd be out in time for the 2042 election.
If I were his attorney, I'd advise him to plead insanity. That might be credible with a jury. 🙂
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suppuration · 1 year ago
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Don't forget the indictment counts for election tampering in multiple states. He lost in every way. He literally only eked by through gerrymandering, voting suppression, and fraud. Yeah there were people who supported him, but he did. Not. Win.
i know this will only get worse as we get closer to the 2024 election cycle, but
i need people to stop acting like americans brought trump upon themselves. like we ended up with him because we refused to do our "civic duty." people did come out and vote in droves. they voted despite voter disenfranchisement, despite gerrymandering, despite long hours in line.
trump lost the popular vote. please get this through your fucking head. he lost. the popular. vote.
we were saddled with trump because of how our system is setup. not because we didn't vote. quit using this as a "gotcha" to try and shame people into voting, because as i said before: people fucking voted.
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grayheartart · 2 years ago
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TL:DW: Democrats making excuses and weaving conspiracies theories to try and pin Bidens mishandling of classified documents on literally anybody else, except on the dipshit moron they voted for.
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cleolinda · 1 year ago
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Are the Trump indictments election interference? asked someone whose question I will take in good faith against my better judgment.
The American presidential election (November 5, 2024) is more than a year away. There is more than a whole year for these four (4) trials to occur. If candidates want to start campaigning (and have already been campaigning) year(s) in advance, that is not the American judicial system's problem. Do not let anyone tell you that "I DECLARE CAMPAIGN SO YOU CAN'T TOUCH ME" is how this works.
I welcome criminal charges of actual substance for any candidate of any party. If you have dozens of pages of carefully documented charges against any/all Democrats, please have a DA call a grand jury whenever you would like. Political parties are not sports teams to me. Justice can do what it gotta do, whether it's convenient or not.
If someone doesn't want to get pulled up on racketeering charges (RICO), they maybe shouldn’t have racketeered. Or falsified business records, or mishandled documents to the tune of 31 charges under the Espionage Act, or incited an insurrection, the latter of which, I don't know about you, but which I personally watched on TV, live, for several hours, including coverage of the Trump rally that sent crowds marching over to the Capitol. We have heard the Georgia phone call that is part of the fourth indictment. We have seen pictures of classified documents piled in a random Mar-a-Lago bathroom. I am confident that these are not frivolous accusations.
District Attorney Fani Willis was careful to state that there should be a presumption of innocence (a standard American judicial doctrine). That said, I consider (as one example), this fourth indictment to be “charges of actual substance” because she delivered a 96-page document describing the racketeering (which, ironically, WAS ITSELF ELECTION INTERFERENCE):
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u/code_archaeologist: The math on this is easy. For a jury to find a person guilty on a RICO charge in Georgia the prosecutor has to prove, beyond a reasonable doubt, that they engaged in two incidents that predicated the overarching conspiracy. The RICO charge lists 161 predicating incidents. So Fani Willis has 161 shots at each defendant, and only has to hit twice.
(I like to read r/politics.)
Fani Willis has 161 predicating incidents of conspiracy to work with. I am pretty confident that, while a defendant is innocent until proven guilty in the American justice system, these charges have some weight and deserve to be heard in court.
tl;dr if you don't want to campaign under a legal cloud, don't do crimes.
Also try not to publicly intimidate witnesses. And prosecutors. And judges.
If anyone reading this truly wondered if the substance or timing of these proceedings are warranted, sincerely, I hope laying it out like this helped.
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reasonsforhope · 1 year ago
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HOLY SHIT THEY DID IT
TRUMP HAS BEEN CHARGED WITH SEVEN COUNTS OF FEDERAL CRIMES
"Donald Trump said Thursday [June 8th] that he has been indicted on charges of mishandling classified documents at his Florida estate, igniting a federal prosecution that is arguably the most perilous of multiple legal threats against the former president as he seeks to reclaim the White House.
The Justice Department did not immediately publicly confirm the indictment. But two people familiar with the situation who were not authorized to discuss it publicly said that the indictment included seven criminal counts...
The indictment enmeshes the Justice Department in the most politically explosive prosecution in its long history. Its first case against a former president upends a Republican presidential primary that Trump is currently dominating, and any felony charges would raise the prospect of a yearslong prison sentence...
The indictment arises from a monthslong investigation by special counsel Jack Smith into whether Trump broke the law by holding onto hundreds of documents marked classified at his Palm Beach property, Mar-a-Lago, and whether Trump took steps to obstruct the government’s efforts to recover the records.
Prosecutors have said that Trump took roughly 300 classified documents to Mar-a-Lago after leaving the White House, including some 100 that were seized by the FBI last August in a search of the home that underscored the gravity of the Justice Department’s investigation...
The investigation had simmered for months before bursting into front-page news in remarkable fashion last August. That’s when FBI agents served a search warrant on Mar-a-Lago and removed 33 boxes containing classified records, including top-secret documents stashed in a storage room and desk drawer and commingled with personal belongings. Some records were so sensitive that investigators needed upgraded security clearances to review them, the Justice Department has said."
-via WTOP News, June 8, 2023
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one-time-i-dreamt · 1 year ago
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WASHINGTON — The FBI source who reported President Biden’s alleged role in a bribery scheme said that a Ukrainian businessman claimed to keep as “insurance” 15 audio recordings of first son Hunter Biden and two of Joe Biden, a Republican senator revealed Monday.
Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) made the staggering claim in a Senate floor speech after FBI Director Christopher Wray last week allowed House Oversight Committee members to see a redacted informant file about the claim that Hunter and then-Vice President Joe Biden received $5 million apiece to serve the interests of Burisma Holdings owner Mykola Zlochevsky.
“Congress still lacks a full and complete picture with respect to what that document really says. That’s why it’s important that the document be made public without unnecessary redactions for the American people to see,” said Grassley, accusing the bureau of needlessly redacting information about the recordings from the file shared with House lawmakers.
“Let me assist for purposes of transparency,” the 89-year-old went on. “The 1023 [form] produced to that House committee redacted reference that the foreign national who allegedly bribed Joe and Hunter Biden allegedly has audio recordings of his conversations with them. Seventeen total recordings.
“According to the 1023, the foreign national possesses 15 audio recordings of phone calls between him and Hunter Biden,” Grassley continued. “According to the 1023, the foreign national possesses two audio recordings of phone calls between him and then-Vice President Joe Biden. These recordings were allegedly kept as a sort of insurance policy for the foreign national in case he got into a tight spot. The 1023 also indicates that then-Vice President Joe Biden may have been involved in Burisma employing Hunter Biden.”
The senator concluded: “So, as I’ve repeatedly asked since going public with the existence of the 1023, what, if anything, has the Justice Department and FBI done to investigate? The Justice Department and FBI must show their work. They no longer deserve the benefit of the doubt.”
Grassley learned of the informant file this year from a whistleblower and told House Oversight Committee Chairman James Comer (R-Ky.), who issued a subpoena to the FBI. The informant is a longtime paid FBI source.
Grassley said the FBI’s alleged disinterest in the Biden bribery allegation contrasts with its treatment of former President Donald Trump, who on Tuesday will become the first former president arraigned on federal charges for allegedly mishandling classified information after he left office.
“It’s clear that the Justice Department and FBI will use every resource to investigate candidate Trump, President Trump and former President Trump,” Grassley said. “Based on the facts known to Congress and the public, it’s clear that the Justice Department and FBI haven’t nearly had the same laser focus on the Biden family.”
Hunter Biden earned up to $1 million per year from 2014 to 2019 to serve on the board of Burisma, despite having no relevant energy industry experience.
Then-VP Joe Biden met with a Burisma executive at a DC dinner in April 2015, which featured in The Post’s explosive first report on Hunter’s abandoned laptop.
As vice president, Joe Biden also allegedly pushed US support for Ukraine’s natural gas industry during a trip to Kyiv just days after Hunter quietly joined Burisma in April 2014.
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odinsblog · 1 year ago
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Whatever Top Secret documents were at Mar-a-Lago have definitely been compromised already.
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Or sold by Trump, to Putin or the highest bidder.
👉🏿 https://www.newsweek.com/spies-may-have-targeted-documents-mishandled-trump-ex-cia-official-1737645
👉🏿 https://www.salon.com/2019/08/03/trumps-white-house-issues-an-ominous-request-for-a-list-of-top-u-s-spies_partner/
👉🏿 https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/08/26/classified-documents-linked-human-spies-found-donald-trumps/
👉🏿 https://www.gq.com/story/cia-pulled-russia-spy-because-trump
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darkeagleruins · 4 months ago
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I'm going to post Hur's position so everyone understands who exactly concluded, after a full investigation, that Joe Biden, the sitting President of the United States, is mentally unfit to stand trial.
If Joe Biden was found unfit mentally to stand trial for stealing, possessing and sharing Top Secret Documents that were stolen, in part by his administrative assistant Kathy Chung, out of Obama's White House, he's not mentally fit to run the country.
Joe Biden isn't and hasn't been mentally fit to run our country especially since the day that Hur announced his findings yet the Republican controlled House still refused to Impeach him.
"He (Hur) previously served as Principal Associate Deputy Attorney General with the U.S. Department of Justice. Hur oversaw the 2023–2024 investigation into President Joe Biden's alleged mishandling of classified documents during Biden's time as vice president."
Hur was qualified to investigate Joe Biden unlike Jack Smith who they pulled in from a foreign country who worked under the United Nations, who was never nominated by the President and who was never confirmed by the Senate that Garland appointed to Prosecute President Trump. Former President Trump who is mentally fit to stand trial.
Jack Smith, who House Republicans funded and refused to defund who is just a citizen, was given funds to Prosecute Trump by the same House Republicans who refused to Impeach Joe Biden.
Just before the 4th of July break, last week, House Republicans, by a floor vote, refused to defund Jack Smith.
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mylionheart2 · 5 months ago
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And the hits keep coming. (Updated 6/7/24)
Meet Donald Trump's Criminal Enterprise.
Donald Trump: Former so-called President & Convicted Felon: Found Guilty On All 34 counts Of Business Document Fraud. Found Liable For Se*ual Assault of E. Jean Carroll 
Rep. Chris Collins: Trump's Former Mouthpiece in Congress - Convicted
Rick Gates: Trump's Former Deputy Campaign Manager - Convicted
Paul Manafort: Trump’s Former Campaign Chair - Convicted
George Papadopoulos: Trump's Former Foreign Policy Advisory - Convicted
Mike Flynn: Trump’s Former National Security Adviser - Convicted
Michael Cohen: Trump's Former Attorney and Fixer - Convicted
Roger Stone: Former Political Consultant for the Trump Campaign - Convicted
Steve Bannon: Former Trump White House Chief Strategists and Senior Counselor To Trump - Convicted
Allen Weisselberg:  Chief Financial Officer of the Trump Organization - Convicted
Jenna Ellis: Former Trump Lawyer – Convicted
Sidney Powell: Former Trump Attorney – Convicted
Peter Navarro: Former Trump Advisor – Convicted
Mark Meadows: Former White House Chief Of Staff - Indicted
Rudy Giuliani: Trump's Former Attorney -  Indicted
John Eastman: Former Trump Attorney – Indicted
Christina Bobb - Former Trump Attorney – Indicted
Boris Epshteyn: Former Trump Attorney – Indicted
Walt Nauta: Trump Aide - Indicted
Kenneth Cheseboro: Right-wing Attorney – Indicted
Michael Roman: Former Trump Campaign Official – Indicted
Jeffrey Clark: Former Trump Administration Official - Indicted
The Trump To Prison Pipeline:
18 People Indicted In Fulton County, GA
18 People Indicted For Election Interference In AZ
15 People Indicted For Election Forgery In MI
3 People Indicted For Fake Electors Scheme In WI
2 People Indicted For Obstruction Of Justice And Mishandling Of Classified Documents In Florida
1,400 people Arrested For January 6th, 2021 Insurrection At the U.S. Capitol
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dontmeantobepoliticalbut · 4 months ago
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A federal judge on Monday dismissed the classified documents case against Donald Trump, a shock ruling that clears away one of the major legal challenges facing the former president.
In a 93-page ruling, District Judge Aileen Cannon said the appointment of special counsel Jack Smith violated the Constitution. She did not rule on whether Trump’s alleged mishandling of classified documents was proper or not.
“In the end, it seems the Executive’s growing comfort in appointing ‘regulatory’ special counsels in the more recent era has followed an ad hoc pattern with little judicial scrutiny,” Cannon wrote.
The ruling by Cannon, a judge Trump appointed in 2020, comes on the first day of the Republican National Convention. Even though a trial before the presidential election was considered highly unlikely, many legal experts had viewed the classified documents case as the strongest one of the four cases that were pending against the former president.
The White House referred requests for comment to the Justice Department. Smith’s office has not responded to a call for comment.
Smith had charged Trump last year with taking classified documents from the White House and resisting the government’s attempts to retrieve the materials. He pleaded not guilty.
In a separate criminal case brought by Smith against Trump in Washington, DC, the special counsel was pursuing federal charges stemming from Trump’s attempts to overturn the results of the 2020 election. Trump also faces a state-level election subversion case in Georgia and he was convicted of state crimes in New York earlier this year for his role in a hush money payment scheme before the 2016 election.
Trump’s efforts to dismiss the case under the appointments clause was seen as a long shot, as several special counsels – even during his own presidential administration – were run the same way.
But the fringe argument gained steam when Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas threw his support behind the theory, writing in a footnote in the high court’s presidential immunity decision that there are “serious questions whether the Attorney General has violated that structure by creating an office of the Special Counsel that has not been established by law. Those questions must be answered before this prosecution can proceed.”
Still, Cannon held a hearing on the issue several weeks ago, pushing attorneys to explain exactly how Smith’s investigation into Trump was being funded. The judge’s questions were so pointed that special counsel attorney James Pearce argued that, even if Cannon were to throw out the case due to an appointments clause issue, the Justice Department was “prepared” to fund Smith’s cases through trial if necessary.
Cannon said in her order that the special counsel’s position “effectively usurps” Congress’ “important legislative authority” by giving it to the head of a department – DOJ, in this case – to appoint such an official.
“If the political branches wish to grant the Attorney General power to appoint Special Counsel Smith to investigate and prosecute this action with the full powers of a United States Attorney, there is a valid means by which to do so,” she wrote.
COULD CASE BE REVIVED?
Cannon said in her ruling Monday that the Justice Department “could reallocate funds to finance the continued operation of Special Counsel Smith’s office,” but said it’s not yet clear whether a newly-brought case would pass legal muster.
“For more than 18 months, Special Counsel Smith’s investigation and prosecution has been financed by substantial funds drawn from the Treasury without statutory authorization, and to try to rewrite history at this point seems near impossible,” Cannon wrote. “The Court has difficulty seeing how a remedy short of dismissal would cure this substantial separation-of-powers violation, but the answers are not entirely self-evident, and the caselaw is not well developed.”
She noted in her ruling that Smith’s team “suggested” at a court hearing on the matter that they could restructure the office’s funding to satisfy her concerns.
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justinspoliticalcorner · 6 days ago
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S.V. Dáte at HuffPost:
WASHINGTON ― For Donald Trump, Tuesday’s election has come to this: It’s either the White House or the Big House. If he wins, the coup-attempting former president, already a convicted criminal, will be able to postpone his Georgia and New York state prosecutions until he is no longer in office. As for his two federal cases, he would be able to make them disappear forever by simply ordering his attorney general to dismiss them. “Those will be dismissed on Jan. 20. Both of them,” said Ty Cobb, a former Trump White House lawyer and onetime federal prosecutor who thinks his old boss deserves prison time. “There’s a compelling interest for the country to deter this treasonous bullshit and the mishandling of sensitive information.” Trump himself confirmed he would end the federal prosecutions by firing special counsel Jack Smith in an interview last month with pro-Trump radio host Hugh Hewitt. “It’s so easy — I would fire him within two seconds,” Trump said. Smith has headed the election interference and classified documents investigations.
The New York and Georgia cases, meanwhile, would at best go into hibernation, lawyers said, because courts have ruled that presidents must have the ability to carry out their duties under the Constitution, notwithstanding state legal cases. “The state cases, because of the supremacy clause, nothing much will occur,” said Karen Agnifilio, a former prosecutor in Manhattan. “He can be sentenced in New York state, but he will not get anything that bleeds into his presidency. So maybe community service? A fine? Nothing?” A Trump victory over Democratic Vice President Kamala Harris would mark the first time in American history that voters have put a literal criminal into office. Among former presidents, only Richard Nixon even came close to facing charges for his attempt to cheat in the 1972 presidential election and his subsequent attempts to cover it up. He was preemptively pardoned by newly sworn-in Gerald Ford days after Nixon resigned from office in 1974.
Trump, in contrast, already faces three active criminal cases against him: in state court in Georgia, for his attempt to overturn his 2020 election loss there; in federal court in Washington, D.C., for his actions leading up to and during his Jan. 6, 2021, coup attempt; and in New York state court, for falsifying business records to hide a $130,000 hush money payment to a porn star days ahead of the 2016 election. There was a second federal prosecution, in South Florida based on Trump’s refusal to turn over secret documents he took with him to his Palm Beach country club upon leaving the White House, that was dismissed by U.S. District Judge Aileen Cannon. Smith is appealing to have those charges reinstated. The New York case would be his most immediate threat, should he lose. A New York City jury in May found him guilty on every count. Sentencing is now set for Nov. 26. Though it is a white-collar crime and Trump is still legally a first-time offender, Judge Juan Merchan can consider Trump’s lack of remorse, the seriousness of the crime ― intended to sway the 2016 presidential election ― as well as Trump’s multiple violations of Merchan’s gag order forbidding the former president from attacking witnesses and court officers in the case.
Today, this election will determine the fate of any chance of whether Donald Trump will be held accountable for his crimes.
If he loses, he’ll be in a heap of legal trouble. If he wins, he’ll be off scot-free.
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delicatuscii-wasbella102 · 4 months ago
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“You won’t have to do it anymore, It’ll be fixed; it’ll be fine; you won’t have to vote anymore, my beautiful Christians.” America, you NEED to stop this megalomaniac, There is nothing Christian about him, He is trying control 'Christianity',  he has favourable opinions towards traditional Christian ideals, which, i have no doubt he will drop if he becomes the dictator of America
“Today Christians …. I pledge that I never will tie myself to parties who want to destroy Christianity … We want to fill our culture again with the Christian spirit … We want to burn out all the recent immoral developments in literature, in the theatre and in the press. In short, we want to burn out the poison of immorality which has entered into our whole life and culture, as a result of liberal excess.” "Who says I am not under the special protection of God?" "It is not truth that matters, but victory." "If you tell a big enough lie and tell it frequently enough, it will be believed."
This could be Trump talking, But they are quotes from Hitler and Mein Kampf Trump is indoctrinating people with his singular focus on fostering hatred. He spews propaganda to the pre existing prejudices among the population, his aim, Establishing a totalitarian state, why do you think he went to see Putin and Jung-Un? It certainly wasn't to create peace, he was educating himself on full dictatorship. Then there is his criminal record and cases pending, falsifying business records, inserection of the White House, which makes sense that he was involved now he has said about his dictatorship, election fraud, Mishandling of classified documents. "Trump has called his eldest daughter “voluptuous”. He’s said it’s OK to describe her as “a piece of ass”
“After I met Ivanka and praised her to her father, he said, ‘Yeah, she's really something, and what a beauty, that one. If I weren't happily married and, ya know, her father . . .’” Both quotes, audibly heard His misogyny of women, The epstein connection and his own daughter, Ivanka, Stating he would 'date' her is wrong on so many levels. So PLEASE America, think, research and do not vote this 'man' into power
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dankxsinatra · 9 months ago
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Today Biden was declared too mentally impaired to be charged for illegally possessing and mishandling classified documents and then proceeded to call the Egyptian president the president of Mexico.
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This man has nukes
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stupittmoran · 6 months ago
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Top 10 headlines the media didn't tell you this week, Repost & Follow for more
Thomas Massie has introduced a bill to abolish the Fed.
Andy Ogles calls Trump trial a joke.
Peru classifies trans people as “mentally ill”
Slovakia PM shot after rejecting the WHO Global Pandemic Accord and aid for Ukraine.
CNN to host presidential Trump Biden debate, no audience will be present.
Ashley Biden confirms authenticity of diary.
President Biden invokes Executive Privilege blocking release of recordings of mishandling of Classified Documents.
Elon Musk wins Australia court dispute over free speech.
Democrats vote AGAINST bill to detain, deport any iIIegal immigrant who assaults a police officer.
Video goes viral of U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken playing guitar in a bar in Kyiv, Ukraine.
Why won't they allow an audit of billions being sent to Ukraine?
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