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hey guys sorry for lack of posts, i wanted to post this here too!!

a friend of mine brought to my attention that evan santiago (creator of the series stan frederick for those unaware) is hosting a “whos the stronger slenderman” competition on twitter starting june 10th!

you vote by donating through tilify! all proceeds go directly to trans lifeline!

also its for slendermans birthday so like of you’d rather imagine ur sending slenderman birthday money close ur eyes and do that

heres tha links 2 check it out

THE TWITTER

EVENT INFO

ANNOUNCEMENT TWEET

ID IN ALT TEXT! AS PER USUAL W ART, REBLOGS APPRECIATED!

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OO OO OO i have things to say abt this. and this is not an attack on u at all op, moreso a launching point to talk abt my take on this (since my blog is a t12-heavy one)

so i mostly agree w this until we get to the tags (for context, these are the tags. if u cant read em well there is an alt text)

first, tw for adam, his actions (and the triggers applying to them) and t12 for the rest of this post. im on mobile rn so i cant put a cut but imagine one here.

t12 is imo one of the rare cases where we cant exactly be.. divorcable 100%? you can and you cant. i think the course of action best taken is moreso “intake the media but don’t fully death-of-the-author it. keep in mind what he’s done and how that affects his series”

like, for a more lighthearted example, adam was definitely into selfcest, which im not gonna discourse abt the morals of that thats just a thing that was there and on the table. so its not shocking he had noah interact w versions of himself so often.

adam was into kidnapping, stalking, glasses and stripes (no i cant explain any of those). so observers Everything is not a shock.

adam often used t12 and noah maxwells character as a springboard to groom young, impressionable people and even take advantage of full grown adults, so its understandable WHY people dont like adam and hence dont like noah OR tribetwelve. a lot of adams fetishes and personal ideals were all over it.

adam glorified noahs character for a reason, even if he claimed it was the “worst parts of himself as a character”. it clearly wasnt, why else would he have spent time in milos journal for milo to praise the character, and wouldnt have written noah to be sympathetic. he took critiques on noahs character to be critiques on himself so he said noah was the worst parts of him to make him look better. adam doesnt EXACTLY equal noah but the two DO deliberately overlap a lot, and its important to keep that in mind when approaching the character. but at the same time BECAUSE adam was so connected to noah, the character felt very real to a lot of people. a lot of noah being “dumb” is very reasonable reactions to me considering half the story noahs deeply stressed and the other half he’s being told the world is on his shoulders.

on that note, theres still a lot to enjoy about the series! tribetwelve is still a series thats not half bad. it had good editing, fun imagery/symbolism and intruiging charaxters (even if adam didnt know how to write them). i ESPECIALLY think the fan community that prior existed (and still kind of does, even if barely alive) made the series. i noticed a LOT of stereotypically “weird kids” gravitated towards tribetwelve and hence it made an UNBREAKABLE community. even if a lot of people left the sv community after adam was outed, a lot of those people still held long-lasting friendships because of the series. and to say none of those things arent there would be a fucking shame.

people LOVED tribetwelve for a reason, even if most people considered it stand alone not that great (because lets be real some parts of it are just. not that great.) but to watch t12 and not be able to know just what it caused and the influence adam had on its creation is to not address the elephant in the room.

again, this is not an attack on op or their opinion. there is no right way to consume media. this is just a point ive wanted to get out my thoughts for a while but never knew when to get it out or fully express it and i feel like a discussion NEEDS to be had in sv, especially t12, on consuming content made by problematic people, especially if the content can be seen as problematic in itself. my point is, you can mostly divorce tribetwelve. keyword mostly. but people have to acknowlege some of what is put into tribetwelve is disturbing (cough cough NAZIS cough) and the series itself has a poor track record of being used to take advantage of minors, so some people just do NOT want to acknowlege it. however it also holds artistic merit as any piece of media does and has created a strong, tight-knit community thats almost completely morphed the series itself. and both of these are okay and CAN coexist and are imo very decent takes to have! and at the end of the day, maybe tribetwelve was just the friends we made along the way.

thank u for coming to my ted talk (first longform post ive made in a while)

i think its really unfortunate when people ignore tribetwelve now because the creator sucks. tribetwelve is awesome as hell with insane visuals and it doesnt deserve that

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i, should be floating, but i’m weighted by thinking

that i got on the river, really can’t make it change

when the sky gets filled up too fast and taxi-man ‘s saying:

“you better give me some money— stop daydreaming dude”

when the point of horizon is hiding from you

happy (slightly early) 4/13 everyone! i don’t usually do homestuck but i actually remembered to make a 4/13 post this year

reblogs appreciated on art posts, thank you!

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ok. this? is pretty epic

reblogs preferred on art posts! thank you! <3

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TW: TRIBETWELVE

me and @vampiricblockbuster were having a convo awhile back about like. designing robert / constructing robert asher based entirely on what mary and milo have in common and what they dont have in common and uh.

consensus we came to is one of the people CLOSEST to what robert would look like is jerma. do with this what you will.

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little emo freak …

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TW :: TRIBETWELVE / GORE UNDER CUT

Hey, Mom.

It's me.

I'm back.

I figured it all out.

You can drop whatever you're doing and come to the house this Friday at 9 PM sharp.

I'll be waiting there for you.

If you don't come, you'll never see me again.

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hey so a friend of a friend is crowdfunding his top surgery.

my gayass already donated but if anyone else is willing to reblog/like (or even donate) its really appreciated!

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on the topic of my last post,

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Hello, fellow Mary thinker. Saw your piece of art focusing on Milo's phone call in Milo's tape and it made me realize something. If the planned plot of TribeTwelve was still in mind back then, then that means Mary would've killed Milo before her death. Which means she willingly made the choice to go see him despite everything she'd just done. My question is; why would she do that if at least ONE bit of her wanted to see him. Yes, she could've simply wanted answers BUT notice how she chooses instead to defend herself instead of stubbornly insisting answers like she did with Noah in Phone Call with Mary Asher. It's only at the end when she realizes she's probably going to die that she tries to stall and convince Milo they need to work together. It looks like Mary saw the gun when Milo brought up what he knew and while she did shift around, obviously debating on whether to run or not, she didn't. We'll never know the exact emotions behind those No's, but I just thought it might be a cool idea

TW: TRIBETWELVE

ok, i know this was sent to me a couple days ago, but i want to dig into this because YES YES YES FELLOW MARY ASHER THINKER OKAYYY HIIIII. also for those reading, extra tws for death, abuse, and other tribetwelve/milo's journal typical triggers.

what i find interesting about milo's tapes is that i don't believe that mary actually kills milo before? or, at least, she gets close and pussies out, unless this was changed later in the document and i didn't notice.

i also don't even wanna get INTO what this all implies about robert asher, but that's severely off topic. mary gets close to killing milo, but no dice. although, that asterisk has no visible note attached anywhere i could fine, and could mean this was completely subject to change. however, gonna be real, doesn't change much about how i feel about it. just because she didn't finish the job doesn't mean she didn't nearly kill her fucking son. also i do believe posession still somehow had to be involved or some other whimsical form of fuckery, because how else would milo be able to stay alive with his throat gouged the way it was?

but i have to address the actual topic here rather than beating around the bush: why did mary approach her thought-to-be-dead son rather than running? her whole character is running, it'd make sense for her to just hang up while she can, pack her bags, and get as far from her old place of residence as she could.

what i find my personal answer to be is that she has two mildly contrasting character traits. while she only knows how to burn bridges and run, she also is burning with knowledge on her situation. the fact milo may have information on mr. scars (someone who, according to her notes, had been horrifying and stalking her since childhood). her curiosity, her drive to want to know more, to eradicate as much of the collective as she can, overtook her want to run.

even more interestingly, i think its fascinating the one time she DOESN'T run is the one thing that kills her, the one time she doesn't burn a bridge.

idk, lmk if u have more to say or if this is incomprehensible. fellow mary thinker i am GETTING U I AM GETTING U (/j)

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i haven't been involved in slenderverse stuff since MH ended and EMH like? fizzled out or whatever happened there. been slowly getting back into it after rewatching MH

1. it's so fun to see the fandom populated by teens compared to prevs when it was mostly college-age (it's like, weird but in a fun way! cool to see how the lore/mythos have evolved to match the changing demo, thumbs up. )

2. are there any series you'd rec that have older actors/characters in them? most of what i'm finding is like, 16 yr olds, which is still awesome but! i'd love more college-aged stuff if that exists? idk?

3. anything in the vein of, whisperedfaith, downmycellardoor, series that are doing WEIRD things w/the mythos, u know? <3

1) i think ngl while most of the active sv was like. college aged. a lot of teen sv fans ik were kids let on the internet way too early who happened to find sv! that mixed w the fact slenderverse jad a weird blow up on tiktok in 2022.

2) stan fredericks a good one (2016 version, BTS/2012 was also just teenagers lmao), afraidathome is pretty good, and so is findmaddiegriffin!

3) sadly as much as its been a special interest of mine for years, im a slenderverse noob when it comes to some smaller series LMAO. only advice i can give is while a lot of new stuff is made by babies, there is some stuff by college age ppl out there i swear. some ppl are makin COOL SHIT as of rn and its so fun

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ok i wanna piggyback off of this:

the emh guys are dogshit, period. like, forgetting the whole vinnie grooming situation, the evan harassing-a-system-and-saying-“dont-worry-im-mentally-ill-too” situation, and the fact alex kovals actor is a cop, saying “get a hobby other than me and my friends” is fucking GROSS given that its. a piece of media? like. no im NOT a fan of “you and your friends” i am a fan of the story you made, fuckass.

i understand evan wanting people to not use photos of him outside the series as pfps, thats very privacy invading. but this behavior towards fans is gross.

itd ALSO be one thing if they were going “i dont like the fandom because of how invasive they are, their understanding of the characters, and how they act” because im gonna be 100% real: i dont either! but calling people this shit for enjoying something THEY MADE is gross. period.

tldr; i dont like the slenderverse content creators like almost none of them or (a good chunk of) the community but autism + did be DAMNED watching tribetwelve at the age of 11 literally has me here for what could be life with no signs of stopping.

Hey guys.... I kinda haven't been active in this fandom because I'm distancing myself from emh 😭 lol here is why. I love emh as a piece of media but I don't want to say I'm a fan of people if they think I should "get a better hobby than me and my friends"

I was blocked on tiktok by Evan for having a very popular photo of Evan as my profile pic, Ive never posted about emh on tiktok ever!

At first I thought they were just talking about gross fans but their is people like me they legitimately just used a profile photo and got blocked?!?!

I'm literally 15 and harmless, all I want to do is show my appreciation for cool people! So yeah :) I hope people respect that

Obviously they don't like fandoms and the way genuinely nice fans act, that's their opinion but I don't want any part of it

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HOLY SHIT, I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW ABOUT THAT IN THE LEAKED ENDING! I KINDA JUST BRUSHED IT OFF, BUT GOD DAAAYYYUM!

-ahem, anyway. It sounds like they just let Milo bleed to death. I'm assuming they're doing Habit-time shit with Milo's Tape. Keeping him going and stuff? This whole thing really does lean towards generational trauma (with a dash of thinly veiled antisemitism, but one topic at a time.) Families getting torn apart and having to tear back in return. I choose to look at it as a small part of her, very deep down cared for him enough to return one last time. Maybe she thought he wouldn't/couldn't be able to hurt her because he was dead/she was his mom.

I dunno, I'm just a sucker for even the most terrible people having soft spots. I just like the idea of continuing your theme of generational trauma with the possibility of a step towards therapy for pretty much everything. Although, if they'd been planning on this route it'd be just as fitting. Some things can't and shouldn't be forgiven. The Administrator could be an entire metaphor for generational trauma. Keeping the monster locked into a loop- into the family. Even Raisinbrand says their fate has been sealed since the 40's (or whenever World War 2 took place) If they don't try and keep it contained and out of view, it'll spread.

So, yeah. That's pretty much my piece.

OH, THE SERIES IS ALSO LITERALLY ABOUT US RELYING ON NAZIS TO KEEP US SAFE FROM MONSTERS! WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK AD-

tw tribetwelve + mentions of antisemetism. u know tha deal

ok i'm gonna mention this first because the antisemetism is PREVALENT. the insane blood libel, the LITERAL nazi's. it's fucking. GAAGhghh adam hey??? what's that about?? i'm not jewish myself i'd like to not but antisemetism literally SLATHERS the entirety of tribetwelve, it is a lot of what its built on.

and oh. oh oh OH your take on mary is so fun to me. i do believe, part of her, really wanted to care. however, she was manipulated by a cult to give him up. she was supposed to sacrifice him so much younger, and she was told the way to fix her sons mental illness was to drug him. of course i don't think she was trying to good the whole time, obviously. like. at all. and given how much she outwardly went out of her way to spite milo, hate to say it, i don't think it was often.

ALSO I WANNA SAY we have (and any other mary thinkers in the chat) i think have cumulatively thought of mary for. a couple hours more than adam did at least (he thought abt her like 2 minutes). i feel like, if adam thought at all about what was going on. Maaaaan. the themes from tribetwelve are so FUCKING REMENICINT of generational trauma. the way the curse "follows the family tree" HELLO??? plus kevin and sebastian . idk what their deal is.

srry if this is yet again rlly incomprehensible i kept getting distracted writing this

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oh habit and kralie stans are gonna WAR for it if this doesnt iron itself out.

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so I'm genuinely curious. you're a they/he..so are you gender or no? Like are you trans, under the non binary spectrum, a cis male who just uses he/they? like do you lable yourself with a gender or no? also i'm not hitting on you but what's your sexuality? just out of curiosity!! I'd love to learn more about my friends and yeah..i would message you but..i didn't think of that until now...if you don't feel comfortable answering it's fine! Thanks even if you don't! Also if you've stated this and I never noticed or forgot I'm sorry I'm 24 but my brain acts like I am in my 90s 😭😭😭

anyways love ya! have a good day! i love that you started the slenderverse polls it's nice to see the slenderverse fandom arguing lmao <333333 byeeeeeee

ok. i have DID so theres 2 different answers to this question.

collectively, my sys uses he/they/it pronouns and we are a queer trans man. as for me in particular, the host, im gay and cis in headspace and use he/they.

also as for the polls. theyre real fun.

ty for the ask! appreciate it kind mutual <3

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Milo have you ever been to th.e store

no…