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hey guys sorry for lack of posts, i wanted to post this here too!!

a friend of mine brought to my attention that evan santiago (creator of the series stan frederick for those unaware) is hosting a “whos the stronger slenderman” competition on twitter starting june 10th!

you vote by donating through tilify! all proceeds go directly to trans lifeline!

also its for slendermans birthday so like of you’d rather imagine ur sending slenderman birthday money close ur eyes and do that

heres tha links 2 check it out

THE TWITTER

EVENT INFO

ANNOUNCEMENT TWEET

ID IN ALT TEXT! AS PER USUAL W ART, REBLOGS APPRECIATED!

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Hello, fellow Mary thinker. Saw your piece of art focusing on Milo's phone call in Milo's tape and it made me realize something. If the planned plot of TribeTwelve was still in mind back then, then that means Mary would've killed Milo before her death. Which means she willingly made the choice to go see him despite everything she'd just done. My question is; why would she do that if at least ONE bit of her wanted to see him. Yes, she could've simply wanted answers BUT notice how she chooses instead to defend herself instead of stubbornly insisting answers like she did with Noah in Phone Call with Mary Asher. It's only at the end when she realizes she's probably going to die that she tries to stall and convince Milo they need to work together. It looks like Mary saw the gun when Milo brought up what he knew and while she did shift around, obviously debating on whether to run or not, she didn't. We'll never know the exact emotions behind those No's, but I just thought it might be a cool idea

TW: TRIBETWELVE

ok, i know this was sent to me a couple days ago, but i want to dig into this because YES YES YES FELLOW MARY ASHER THINKER OKAYYY HIIIII. also for those reading, extra tws for death, abuse, and other tribetwelve/milo's journal typical triggers.

what i find interesting about milo's tapes is that i don't believe that mary actually kills milo before? or, at least, she gets close and pussies out, unless this was changed later in the document and i didn't notice.

i also don't even wanna get INTO what this all implies about robert asher, but that's severely off topic. mary gets close to killing milo, but no dice. although, that asterisk has no visible note attached anywhere i could fine, and could mean this was completely subject to change. however, gonna be real, doesn't change much about how i feel about it. just because she didn't finish the job doesn't mean she didn't nearly kill her fucking son. also i do believe posession still somehow had to be involved or some other whimsical form of fuckery, because how else would milo be able to stay alive with his throat gouged the way it was?

but i have to address the actual topic here rather than beating around the bush: why did mary approach her thought-to-be-dead son rather than running? her whole character is running, it'd make sense for her to just hang up while she can, pack her bags, and get as far from her old place of residence as she could.

what i find my personal answer to be is that she has two mildly contrasting character traits. while she only knows how to burn bridges and run, she also is burning with knowledge on her situation. the fact milo may have information on mr. scars (someone who, according to her notes, had been horrifying and stalking her since childhood). her curiosity, her drive to want to know more, to eradicate as much of the collective as she can, overtook her want to run.

even more interestingly, i think its fascinating the one time she DOESN'T run is the one thing that kills her, the one time she doesn't burn a bridge.

idk, lmk if u have more to say or if this is incomprehensible. fellow mary thinker i am GETTING U I AM GETTING U (/j)

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HOLY SHIT, I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW ABOUT THAT IN THE LEAKED ENDING! I KINDA JUST BRUSHED IT OFF, BUT GOD DAAAYYYUM!

-ahem, anyway. It sounds like they just let Milo bleed to death. I'm assuming they're doing Habit-time shit with Milo's Tape. Keeping him going and stuff? This whole thing really does lean towards generational trauma (with a dash of thinly veiled antisemitism, but one topic at a time.) Families getting torn apart and having to tear back in return. I choose to look at it as a small part of her, very deep down cared for him enough to return one last time. Maybe she thought he wouldn't/couldn't be able to hurt her because he was dead/she was his mom.

I dunno, I'm just a sucker for even the most terrible people having soft spots. I just like the idea of continuing your theme of generational trauma with the possibility of a step towards therapy for pretty much everything. Although, if they'd been planning on this route it'd be just as fitting. Some things can't and shouldn't be forgiven. The Administrator could be an entire metaphor for generational trauma. Keeping the monster locked into a loop- into the family. Even Raisinbrand says their fate has been sealed since the 40's (or whenever World War 2 took place) If they don't try and keep it contained and out of view, it'll spread.

So, yeah. That's pretty much my piece.

OH, THE SERIES IS ALSO LITERALLY ABOUT US RELYING ON NAZIS TO KEEP US SAFE FROM MONSTERS! WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK AD-

tw tribetwelve + mentions of antisemetism. u know tha deal

ok i'm gonna mention this first because the antisemetism is PREVALENT. the insane blood libel, the LITERAL nazi's. it's fucking. GAAGhghh adam hey??? what's that about?? i'm not jewish myself i'd like to not but antisemetism literally SLATHERS the entirety of tribetwelve, it is a lot of what its built on.

and oh. oh oh OH your take on mary is so fun to me. i do believe, part of her, really wanted to care. however, she was manipulated by a cult to give him up. she was supposed to sacrifice him so much younger, and she was told the way to fix her sons mental illness was to drug him. of course i don't think she was trying to good the whole time, obviously. like. at all. and given how much she outwardly went out of her way to spite milo, hate to say it, i don't think it was often.

ALSO I WANNA SAY we have (and any other mary thinkers in the chat) i think have cumulatively thought of mary for. a couple hours more than adam did at least (he thought abt her like 2 minutes). i feel like, if adam thought at all about what was going on. Maaaaan. the themes from tribetwelve are so FUCKING REMENICINT of generational trauma. the way the curse "follows the family tree" HELLO??? plus kevin and sebastian . idk what their deal is.

srry if this is yet again rlly incomprehensible i kept getting distracted writing this

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hey to my mutuals! i made a slenderverse discord server, prolly will go public later today but i want mutuals in first, so DM me to get in and i'll give u an inv 👀

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ok i wanna piggyback off of this:

the emh guys are dogshit, period. like, forgetting the whole vinnie grooming situation, the evan harassing-a-system-and-saying-“dont-worry-im-mentally-ill-too” situation, and the fact alex kovals actor is a cop, saying “get a hobby other than me and my friends” is fucking GROSS given that its. a piece of media? like. no im NOT a fan of “you and your friends” i am a fan of the story you made, fuckass.

i understand evan wanting people to not use photos of him outside the series as pfps, thats very privacy invading. but this behavior towards fans is gross.

itd ALSO be one thing if they were going “i dont like the fandom because of how invasive they are, their understanding of the characters, and how they act” because im gonna be 100% real: i dont either! but calling people this shit for enjoying something THEY MADE is gross. period.

tldr; i dont like the slenderverse content creators like almost none of them or (a good chunk of) the community but autism + did be DAMNED watching tribetwelve at the age of 11 literally has me here for what could be life with no signs of stopping.

Hey guys.... I kinda haven't been active in this fandom because I'm distancing myself from emh 😭 lol here is why. I love emh as a piece of media but I don't want to say I'm a fan of people if they think I should "get a better hobby than me and my friends"

I was blocked on tiktok by Evan for having a very popular photo of Evan as my profile pic, Ive never posted about emh on tiktok ever!

At first I thought they were just talking about gross fans but their is people like me they legitimately just used a profile photo and got blocked?!?!

I'm literally 15 and harmless, all I want to do is show my appreciation for cool people! So yeah :) I hope people respect that

Obviously they don't like fandoms and the way genuinely nice fans act, that's their opinion but I don't want any part of it

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i, should be floating, but i’m weighted by thinking

that i got on the river, really can’t make it change

when the sky gets filled up too fast and taxi-man ‘s saying:

“you better give me some money— stop daydreaming dude”

when the point of horizon is hiding from you

happy (slightly early) 4/13 everyone! i don’t usually do homestuck but i actually remembered to make a 4/13 post this year

reblogs appreciated on art posts, thank you!

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ok. this? is pretty epic

reblogs preferred on art posts! thank you! <3

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The Everyman

Ok, so awhile ago I made a post that was like "What if I made a long rant post on Vinnie Everyman" and that's essentially what this is. Some notes first, I'm sick so unlike the Asher Family post the art for this post is traditional sketches because I've tried hard to do digital, full drawings and it just is not happening no matter how hard I try. This post is also VERY loosely drafted, so it may be a bit ramble-y. One last warning, this will be talking about the canon events of EMH. If you don't want spoilers, are fictionkin/a system/an IRL, or are simply triggered by some of the events/topics discussed and shown in EverymanHYBRID, please be careful reading this post.

Now from there, I can get started!

Vinnie Everyman feels like a character that is either looked over or deliberately excluded when talking about EverymanHYBRID. Whether it is fandom culture just wanting to mash their favorite characters faces together or it's simply many viewers do not find Vinnie as interesting next to Jeffrey and Alex and their family troubles, Evan struggling with possession, or Steph's long-term struggles as expressed in the tumblr blog CANYOUSEETHEWORDS. Which, both are valid in all honesty. It is fine to not like a character. What this blog post seeks to refute is a claim that seems to consistently circulate around the EMH fandom - that Vinnie is a snake and backstabber.

Which, is partially true, which will be elaborated on a little later. However, Vinnie has all the makings to be a tragic character just like Evan and Jeff, but is often swept under the rug and treated as cruel simply because he did what he thought he needed to survive.

Vinnie Everyman is viewed best when you take him as you do many protagonists, especially in Slenderverse: A representation and vessel for the viewer. His actions make the most sense when the audience puts themself in his shoes.

Obviously, at surface level, Vinnie is a bad person. He conspires with a demon, leads his friends to death, and seemingly feels no remorse until it is far too little too late. So yes, Vinnie is, by all definitions, a snake. But one must put context into his actions.

Looking back on the series, it should be kept in mind Vinnie is entirely led astray by HABIT. While it is not directly said but rather implied multiple times, one time I would like to note is almost all of the video "Lexi", but especially the part where HABIT highlights Vinnie is the guardian, however that is simply not the case, as seen by what he wrote for the role of guardian.

"THE GUARDIAN SHALL LOSE HIS HEART AND THEN HIS BLOOD AND FIGHT TO LOSE ALL HE LOVES"

"THE GUARDIAN SHALL DEFY A GOD ONLY TO BE DEALT A FATAL BLOW"

These lines paint the Guardian as a martyr like figure who is dealt repeated emotional blows, only to be killed. However, these lines almost wholly fit Jeff plenty more than they do Vinnie. His "heart" can be easily put as Jessa, and his "blood" as Alex, since they are blood relatives. Jeff during the series consistently pushed the viewers to search for answers while he also searched himself, which would be his fight.

However, the role Vinnie better fits, the Voyeur, is cruel in description and a lot more true to Vinnies intentions.

"THE VOYEUR SHALL WATCH FROM AN EMOTIONAL DISTANCE, INSISTING UPON MAINTAINING THEIR STRENGTH."

"THE VOYEUR SHALL REMAIN IDLE TO ALL WHO SEE, HOWEVER BUSY HE MAY BE BENEATH"

"THE VOYEUR SHALL SWALLOW JUSTICE’S SWORD"

HABIT, by telling Vinnie he is the guardian, is not only making Vinnie a trustworthy figure in the viewers eyes but making Vinnie feel like he is the victim. By saying he lost his love and his blood (which could be his found family, or his friends, or simply the amnesia that made him forget his family) he no longer is not a victim. On top of that, he's now framed as a martyr in the situation.

To circle back, Vinnie is not only manipulated consistently throughout the series, he's also someone the viewer sees themself through.

With the knowledge Vinnie was intensely manipulated by HABIT in many ways, it is understandable to follow his whims. While he almost certainly is not a trustworthy figure from the start, he certainly is a threatening one. The possibility HABIT threatened Vinnie into submission is certainly high, and honestly, given the situation, many people would throw friends under the bus to literally save their life.

As easy as it is to go "Not me!", and the scenario is certainly not a realistic one, what Vinnie goes through is understandable if one thinks of EMH as more allegorical.

Putting HABIT in the position of just an awful person, and Evan as an idealized version of said awful person (an interpretation of EMH I personally subscribe to), the situation is a lot more easy to digest.

Its easy to follow trustable people, and even, in the case of EMH canon, people who hold a position of power, even if the person effected knows its wrong. Given the circumstance Vinnie is manipulated and threatened, its easy to fall into the trap and dig a hole too deep.

(geddin loser, im reliving horrific trauma)

All in all, Vinnie as a character when analyzed is interesting and well rounded. While he intensely stabbed his friends in the back, the way it was framed for him, the other option was to fall to whatever may have been threatened.

Sorry if I rambled plenty or if none of this made sense, as mentioned earlier I am intensely ill and in between school and such I did not and likely won't have the free time to make this post, so I decided to post this while I can. Thank you for reading this far at all, I appreciate it! :-)

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TW: TRIBETWELVE

me and @vampiricblockbuster were having a convo awhile back about like. designing robert / constructing robert asher based entirely on what mary and milo have in common and what they dont have in common and uh.

consensus we came to is one of the people CLOSEST to what robert would look like is jerma. do with this what you will.

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hey so a friend of a friend is crowdfunding his top surgery.

my gayass already donated but if anyone else is willing to reblog/like (or even donate) its really appreciated!

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on the topic of my last post,

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posting shit from my insta . noah maxwell noah noah maxwell

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slendermans least favorite furry ( + some lil guys)

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hey guys theory the new deltarune chapter is gonna be ENITIRELY film themed.

susie and kris in cowboy outfits (old westerns), noir-esc enemies. the newscasters. not to mention the STAGE ?!!! the fountain is put RIGHT in front of a tv? come the fuck ON!!!!

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i like that one video where noah maxwells whole ass is out. and nobody says anything

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TEMPERANCE.

(late milo asher birthday piece agaagghhaagahh little fuckin THING. inspired by the institute entry + early jesus milo asher drafts. tbh, thinking of making a compilation of all the WEIRD tribetwelve leak shit)