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notes / thoughts on Terzo's characterization (Terzo is so disappointed and depressed and i love him)

a few weeks ago i saw this post from slavghoul which has snippets of TF describing the Papas. it includes this quote:

“He represents this frustrated old guy who hates everyone, especially himself. But despite his wounds and his darkness, he has a sense of humour and is endearing, like most of my heroes. The late actor Christopher Lee was an inspiration to me. In many ways, he is Papa.” (Metallian 7/2015)

i thought this quote was really interesting because i'd never seen anyone talking about that side of Terzo before. Terzo hating "everyone, especially himself" felt at odds with the charming personality he typically displayed. i wanted to know how that developed and where his "wounds and darkness" came from. so i did some digging for quotes on Terzo's history and characterization. here are my notes + thoughts:

something that came up again and again in my research is that he is actually quite antisocial when he's not performing. it seems like he didn't want people to know anything about him past his stage persona.

TOUR MANAGER: No one in the crew really gets to see or speak to Papa, ever. Only Anna and myself have access. He is not in the building and then he'll just be there, just for show time. The only thing you really need to know about Papa is what you see of him on stage. Ghost - The Devil's Hands (Documentary) (2017)

he almost never interacted with any of the nameless ghouls or the tour crew. in fact, he really went out of his way to avoid them. he traveled separately, would appear right before the start of a show, and then he would disappear as soon as it ended. in "The Devil's Hands", it showed they sometimes had trouble locating him when he was needed.

With this new era, can you introduce Papa Emeritus III? NAMELESS GHOUL: I don't know him very well yet. We haven't really done our mileage with him, so I am sure that we will find out. But he seems nice. He seems okay. Obviously, he's very close relatives with Papa number two, who was a little bit of a hmm. I'm sure that he isn't like, completely different, but we'll find out. He's a bit of a recluse, and he sort of travels on his own. And he sort of appears when we're due onstage and then he disappears when we're offstage. So yeah, I guess we have a little bit of a social disconnect there, but I don't see a big problem with that. I mean he seems to be doing well on his own, and I don't know if he has a little harem somewhere that occupies his time offstage, I guess. I'm assuming that. Loud TV (July 2015)

INTERVIEWER: How has it been working with the third Papa? How is he fitting into the group? NAMELESS GHOUL: We like him, actually. He seems to be quite nice. Obviously, we haven't really done our "miles" with him yet, so we don't know him that well. And he doesn't travel with us- he sort of goes separately everywhere, and he appears just before the show and then he just disappears. So we haven't really had the time to sort of fully get to know him. But overall, he seems quite a joyful chap. Metal Injection (September 2015)

predictably, his bandmates did not know him very well. but they always remarked that they liked him and that he seemed like a nice, chill guy. (they also assumed he had a harem that he spent time with when he wasn't performing, which is probably not true, considering how much effort he put into avoiding people whenever possible.)

NAMELESS GHOUL: We don't really socialize with Papa, so… But he seems nice! But he's very occupied in his harem. [...] He's a little bit cooler. He seems to be the nicer of the two brothers --I don't know if there are two-- but he seems to have, I don't know, a kinder mother, probably, or something that makes him slightly.. INTERVIEWER: A little different. NAMELESS GHOUL: Yeah, he's a little bit different. AMBY (October 2015)

i don't think his charming, pleasant demeanor was just an act, though. i think it did come from a genuine part of himself... he wasn't always an antisocial recluse.

before he became Papa, he was a cardinal in Krakow, Poland. Bishop Necropolitus Cracoviensis (the character representing Zbigniew Bielak, the artist who does the album art for Ghost) characterized younger Terzo as having enthusiasm in all his endeavors. he was always a very devoted member of the clergy who had big dreams of progress and modernization for the Ministry and the world. he had a strong interest in Futurist art and philosophy.

Bp. Necropolitus Cracoviensis remembers: "...our relationship goes a long way back to the times before his papacy, that is when he was still a cardinal in my hometown, in Cracovia...(...) Although we had our share of juvenile recklessness - be it indulging his beloved cream pies - allegedly verging on six hundred sixty six portions a year but that must be a rumor I believe, or wild parties at the attic of seminary school (laughs) - even in his formative years, he remained a focused man of vision, looking far into the future, always addressing his people's needs and longings to keep our church together in those turbulent, rapidly changing times (...) there were so many temptations to syndicate among our good people (...) (...) We would sit down to studying exciting Futurist manifestos, sketched the blueprints of utopian metropoles, spiked with shiny skyscrapers stabbing at the heavens belly... Wantonly swollen zeppelins would to carry our gospel of indulgence to the farthest corners of the globe to summon and enslave. (...) Forged in nostalgia of steam and fire, this brave new world of ambition, vice, lust and greed - all so inherent to the enlightened modernity, was always with him through all these years. And it is now - when our church continues to grow stronger and wealthier under wise reign of Papa Emeritus III - that these visions may finally be witnessed and embraced in the preachings of 'Meliora' - his most contemporary and humane Encyclical." (https://www.facebook.com/thebandghost/posts/994031900615606)

those core values of ambition, vice, lust, and greed stayed with him when he became Papa. though he had a revolutionary spirit, he's actually described as "less rebellious" in Metal Myths. Terzo took his job as Papa very seriously, and he cared about being successful and achieving his goals. while he and Secondo certainly had vice, lust, and greed in common, it was Terzo's ambition that truly set him apart.

"It felt like the goal was to take Papa II's sense of modernity and remove the recklessness." Metal Myths: Ghost Pt. 2 (April 2022)

How would you describe the personality of Papa Emeritus III compared to his predecessors? NAMELESS GHOUL: "First of all, Papa Emeritus III is an entertainer! He loves projectors, he loves the public, and he loves success. The first Papa Emeritus was someone very rigid, very strict, and very solemn. A real son of a bitch! (laughs) To be honest, we don’t miss him at all! Papa Emeritus II was a pervert a little bit sadistic, and, in hindsight, I think he wasn’t very at ease on stage. He wasn’t a showman, unlike Papa Emeritus III! Him, he’s the guide we missed to rise up the quality of our shows, to reach the step above and communicate with our fans." (MyRock #44 (2017) translated from French by @ a-wandering-ghoulette)

unfortunately, his ambition eventually led him to become disillusioned and depressed.

Terzo looked forward to becoming Papa. he worked so hard for it his whole life, only to be confronted with the realization that his time as Papa --and therefore his achievements-- would be limited.

he was a nice guy, but he was also was egotistical. he was a showman and an intellectual, and he thought very highly of himself.

NAMELESS GHOUL: He's a little bit more chill. But obviously, all the Papas are definitely pompous assholes. INTERVIEWER: That's part of the job. SPECIAL GHOUL: That's one of the criterias, the prerequisites, that you have to be this sort of flamboyant diva, know-all, show-off. Metal Injection (September 2015)

his self-hatred came from his inability to be the person he wanted to be. it's not that he felt like he couldn't measure up, it's that he felt like he wasn't allowed to express his full potential. Terzo's mindset was "i know i'm good enough. and i could prove it if they would just let me." but he wasn't really in charge, and his vision was at odds with the goals of Sister Imperator.

Terzo felt so stifled, it makes sense that he became a "frustrated old guy who hates everyone, especially himself."

and i think this is the reason for the paradox of him having a kind, charming personality onstage and being unsociable offstage. he still gave it his all. he did the best he could with the time and resources he was allowed. that zealous man of the people was still in there somewhere. but he felt betrayed by the clergy, the organization he dedicated his life to. his career ended up being unfulfilling and he was ultimately really bitter about the way things turned out.

he was good. he never got to be great.

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Original Romancing anon here! I just wanted to add to the conversation that I also LOVE seeing kink portrayed in a fluid and normalized way!! Like it can just be part of the characters' sex lives, you know? Just a thing they enjoy sometimes. Some nights Copia wears panties and maybe he wants his ass ate and maybe he even wants to be topped. But it doesn't always have to be a 'scene' with someone being 'the dom' and someone being 'the sub' you know? Of course that sort of kink is great as well! But fan works so often fall into that trope that it's super refreshing to see kink written in a more "real" way 💖💖

Hi! Glad to see you back. :)

Yes, I absolutely agree. It doesn't have to be a big production. "Bottom" has unfortunately become synonymous with "submissive". And in that submissiveness, characters are portrayed as these feminized two-dimensional objects there for the "Top's" or "Dom's" pleasure.

Which we see a lot in the portrayal of Terzo for instance. You can write a character that loves to receive. You can write a character that is unapologetically queer. And as a character with not much background, but some, anyone can weave a tale exploring his sexuality, his relationships, and how they shape him as a person. But the integrity of a character is equally as important. We have learned that Terzo has a lot of internal struggle.

“He represents this frustrated old guy who hates everyone, especially himself. But despite his wounds and his darkness, he has a sense of humour and is endearing, like most of my heroes" (Metallian 7/2015).

We have learned that he had big plans for his papacy in leading his flock toward Meliora - the pursuit of something better.

"...even in his formative years, he remained a focused man of vision, looking far into the future, always addressing his people's needs and longings to keep our church together in those turbulent, rapidly changing times" (Source).

And through performances, the unplugged tour, etc., Terzo has made himself clear as a man who looks after the underdog, who has a sense of humor, who encourages the indulgence of pleasure, particularly a certain feminine one, and is very much a complex character in his own right.

So often you see him portrayed as this bed warmer. As someone whose only purpose is to take what he's given because he's the fandom twink. I think it's a disservice to the character. Which might earn me some frowns, but...

We have four old Italian men at our disposal to craft stories around. Which you can take anywhere and do anything with. I am just of the opinion that they should be allowed to remain old Italian men (other than stories set in the past, of course). With all the complexities that the source material we do have, gives us.

I apologize for my essay lol But thank you very much for your ask. I would absolutely eat Copia's ass.

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Punk rock band mate alter request by @cupofmoths . Hope you enjoy !! Glad to have been able to add another member to Disgrace :3

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╰┈➤ names : sInNner , MAyhEm , CHiv , rAmoNA , sPikE ,

╰┈➤ ****Pronouns : any prn , it/its , rock/rock , sin/sins , amp/amps , met/metals , punk/punks , fire/fires

╰┈➤ Titles : LoRd of MAyhEm , CHivalRouS bASsTarD , Leader of Disgrace , puNkrOt , gOd of puNk

╰┈➤ Genders : agender , transgender , transfem , dykefem , musiccomfic , metallian , musicstimic , loudmusicgender , impurnalcravic

╰┈➤ Orientations : lesbutch , lesdyke , biles , autophile , sapphophilia , hybriphilia

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☾ Cis - typing quirk ( chaotic capitalization of letters ) , musician ( singer , guitarist ) , anger issues , hypersexual , autistic , ginger , 5’9 “ , 25 , Musician , Guitarist , cross dresser ( for fun / on occasion ) , piercings ,

⟡ Trans - gender ; male to ( xenic ) female , male to nonbinary , addict / permahigh ; crystal meth + ecstasy + nicotine + weed , Perma-stimming , transage ; born 1983 + Perma 1980’s + 1990’s + young to old ( 25 - 30 / 32 ) , nonhuman : rock angel + God ,

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emotional processor , alemetive , persecutor , sysadult , sensual reliever , reliefmate , artisan

MAyhEm’s role is to process any anger the body / headmates may experience ( whether it sPikE’s anger or not ). Amp does so through music ( writing it , playing it and listening to it ) , distraction ( being loud / chaotic ) , and occasionally through self harm ( any kind, not just physical harm ) . Sin can also help to create new alters - it can help them form by helping them explore different aspects of their identity ( typically through music + tattoos )

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favorite colors : Red , fire colors , Black , grey , gold + silver

Hobbies + Interest : Music ; playing it, making it ( bands of interest : acdc , Metallica , guns and roses , kiss , maneskin, other bands of that genre I’m not familiar with hehe ), listening to it. Gardening + flowers ( like a calming past-time ) , Glampunk styles , old cars + motorcycles , racing , tattoos ( looking at / doing ) , pissing people off , making a statement , rallies , pride fests , parties , shows , preforming , loud noises , doing hair and makeup ; specifically for preformance .

they stim by : singing , dancing , playing with their hair , texture seeking ( they like very rough textures like rocks + asphalt ) , rocking back and fourth

Is the lead vocalist of the band Disgrace , loves to hang out with their bandmates and is in a sissasystem with them

sin loves to tattoo punkself other members of the system , their skill helps them in creating others .

CHiv is very chaotic and loud , met loves to break out into song and dance at any given point , will sing along to anything , and will argue with anyone about anything they feel so inclined to . They are similar to this quote from Brennan Lee Mulligan ; “ You can count on this , I will die on any hill “

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HIIII!! Okay, so this was a bit of a difficult ask, since you know, the point of the riot grrrl aesthetic was to fight the misogyny in the Punk movement and as a form of 4th wave feminism, that being said, I+ think We+ did a pretty good job!

> Name(s): Axel, Storm, Vincent, Wolf, Tatum, Malachi

> Pronoun(s): he/loud/fuck/bass/vio/violent/song/they/lyr/punk/fight/

> Age: young adult

> Gender: goreboy, rockmascgender, metallian, metalgender, punkrockgender, electrix, lovegore, loverboylexic, darklovecoric

> Sexuality: hypersex and hypromantic, attracted to all

> Role: sexual alter, appellisian, sexual protector, admirer

> Source: brainmade, alterblogic

> Faceclaims:

> Sign-offs: 💀, ☠️, 🎸, ⛓️, 🥀, 🃏, 🥁

> Song theme:

> Front triggers(pos/neg/neu):

+ punk history, people he finds sexually appealing, punk shows and punk music

/ movies like Moxie, making zines, someone needing its help to spread awareness

- Unwanted sexual advances, feeling coerced or pressured into sex, Nazis, israel supporters, conservatives spreading hate

> Likes/dislikes:

+ Punk music, feminism, moshing, dancing, punk movements, punk history

- posers & people pretending to be punk for views, nazis, conservatives that think they’re punk, misogynists, pop music

> Personality: Very flirty and sorta rude, flirts by being mean especially. Likes music and listening to music. Is very sexual, and may not be interested in a romantic relationship, only having sexual relationships or being sexually involved. Very loud and isn’t afraid of that, can’t be cowed or pushed down because they’re reminiscent of the Riot grrrl movement, doesn’t take orders from anyone. 

> Ways they do their role: Handles most if not all sexual experiences, either by fronting directly for them, or being in co while sexual activities are happening. If an alter that has a partner is going to have sex and doesn’t feel up to it/ feels unsafe, rock will switch in to handle it. Protects the body’s sexual health and will force their partner to care about and see their sexual wants and needs. Isn’t afraid to to advocate for sexual health and happiness. 

> Inner world occupation or behavior: May have an apartment or studio where they work and live. It is probably fairly messy, with a lot of music instruments, spray paint, concrete and punk clothing all over the floor. Likes being loud and jamming out, probably shouldn’t have neighbors with children or that are quiet. Likes to play in bands and underground shows, loves caffeine and coffee. Has large headphones for listening to music and frequently goes out skating or longboarding. 

> Possible outerworld behavior: Active and loud advocate for everyone. Isn’t afraid to punch a nazi or a cop. Stands with and by minorities to uplift them. Advocates for sexual safety and health. Will speak out against injustice no matter who they’re with. Is very flirty with everyone (as long as their of appropriate age) and likes to be around like minded people.

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“He represents this frustrated old guy who hates everyone, especially himself. But despite his wounds and his darkness, he has a sense of humour and is endearing, like most of my heroes. The late actor Christopher Lee was an inspiration to me. In many ways, he is Papa.” (TF, Metallian 7/2015)

Terzo has a very distinctive lower part of the face. His mouth is positioned lower than most people's so he always looks grumpy. Also his scowling eyebrows reinforce the impression. I could talk forever about his face : >

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