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Bronze circular mirror with bone handle. Menerva (Athena) in the centre holding up the head of the Gorgon Medusa, with Ferse (Perseus) seated left and Turms (Hermes) seated right. Names are inscribed. Etruscan. c. 400-350 B.C. British Museum. 1888,1110.1
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#Naru's eofferings#Menrva#Menerva#wandering into rasenna polytheism#etruscan polytheism#etrupol#rasenna polytheism#raspol#deity worship#digital offering#e offering#polytheism
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Panthéon Étrusque
La religion des Étrusques comprenait une myriade de dieux, de déesses et d'êtres divins mineurs, dont certains étaient indigènes et d'autres importés, notamment de Grèce, et auxquels on avait donné des attributs et des mythes étrusques particuliers. Des temples et des sanctuaires leur étaient dédiés, et ces figures apparaissaient fréquemment dans l'art étrusque sous la forme de décorations de poteries, de peintures murales de tombes, de sculptures et de gravures sur des objets quotidiens tels que des miroirs en bronze. Comme aucun texte complet écrit par les Étrusques n'a survécu et que nous ne disposons que de courtes inscriptions, les informations concernant chaque divinité peuvent être très limitées, parfois seulement à un nom sur une seule offrande votive. Voici un résumé, par ordre alphabétique, des figures les plus importantes de la religion étrusque sur lesquelles nous disposons du plus grand nombre d'informations. Les noms alternatifs et les orthographes sont indiqués entre parenthèses.
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#owlsofinstagram #menerva #paintingoftheday #contemporaryart #wilderness #foursticks #quebeccity #sentiersdumoulin #ontheroad #adventure #marchbreak #abstractfigurative #xcountryskiing (at Mount St. Anne) https://www.instagram.com/p/CpnCMfoAXhe/?igshid=NGJjMDIxMWI=
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Menerva Tau, Daily sketch (2016)
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"Roman gods are just Greek gods with slightly different, more militaristic personalities" what the heck?!
(I am not commenting on equivalents in pantheons. I am commenting on Rick’s notion.)
That's not how it works. Multiple mythological pantheons have at least some influence from other cultures, and syncretism as well.
To put it simply, syncretism (in this context) is the practice of reconciling certain aspects of gods from one pantheon with gods from another pantheon. Moreover, the etruscan myths and gods also influenced Roman mythology. Examples which come to mind are Minerva, Diana, and Mercury. There are many more, but I’ll focus on these three.
a) Diana:
No, Diana was not just "punk" Artemis. She is thought to have an indigenous origins in Italy i.e Diana Nemorensis. Eventually, she was heavily syncretized with Artemis. In spite of this, she possessed unique aspects, such as that of a "triple goddess"- Diana herself, Luna and Hecate. (She had associations with the underworld which caused her to be conflated with hecate).
b) Minerva:
Contrary to what Rick would like you to believe, It was the Etruscan menrva (also spelled menerva) who ‘lent’ her character to the Roman minerva. Minerva was equated with Athena by the romans, but not a lot of influence was directly drawn from Athena.
c) Mercury
Likewise, mercury was also syncretized with multiple gods from multiple pantheons under different epithets.
The Roman pantheon did have gods that were truly 'Roman' [no, bellona is not included]. Besides the Greeks also syncretized their gods with gods of other pantheons, and were influenced by other cultures.
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Birth scenes in general are much more popular in Etruscan than in Greek art. While the divine conceptions and births in Greek myth are uniformly unnatural, Etruscan renderings often bring out their more practical, normal aspects. Tinia is shown on a mirror giving birth to a large, fully armed Menerva with two beautifully dressed midwives at his side, comforting him and bandaging his aching head. Elsewhere we see the baby Dionysos, wearing protective amulets, emerging from Tinia’s thigh, where he has been incubated; a female attendant nurse, Mean, holds an unguent jar and dipstick: is it to assuage the birth pangs of Tinia, the new father, or to anoint the new-born baby? An Etruscan scene shows the conception of a god as an actual sexual union, as Semla lifts up her skirt in an anasyrma gesture to have intercourse with the great god: a satyr shows that the conception of the god Fufluns/Dionysos will be the result.
The Etruscan World edited by Jean MacIntosh Turfa ("Chapter Twenty: Mothers And Children" by Larissa Bonfante)
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Introduction
Hello all and welcome!
My name is Dian, I'm 21 y/o, I am Latino and a pagan.
This is a sideblog for my journey with my deities. I currently worship deities from different pantheons: my own conpantheon, the kushite pantheon (especially the one in worshipped in the meroitic period of Kush), and the etruscan pantheon (aka Rasenna polytheism). Currently like this:
Devoted to:
Danéh & Darukus (Conpantheon)
Worshipping:
Apedemak (Kushite)
Aman (Kushite)
Amesemi (Kushite)
Considering:
Sutekh (Kemetic)
Djehuty (Kemetic-Kushite)
Atari (Kemetic-Kushite)
Sobek (Kemetic)
Inpu (Kemetic-Kushite)
Sekhmet (Kemetic-Kushite)
Dedun (Kushite)
Menerva (Etruscan)
Turan (Etruscan)
Turms (Etruscan)
Uni (Etruscan)
Artumes (Etruscan)
Fufluns (Etruscan)
Atunis (Etruscan)
Iao Sabaoth (Christopagan)
Péh₂usōn (Proto Indo-European)
This might expand and move around in the future of course!
Happy to have you all here :3
#deity worship#deity devotion#pagan#paganism#polytheist#polytheism#conpantheon#personal deity#kushite religion#kushite polytheism#kushite paganism#meroitic#meroe#etruscan polytheist#etrupol#etruscan polytheism#etruscan paganism#etruscan#rasenna polytheist#rasenna paganism#rasenna polytheism#raspol#meroitic gods
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okay you know what? I think it's time for me to take advantage of the release of the Percy Jackson series to talk a little about the relationship between the Greek and Roman gods, because I have a feeling that we're going to have a new generation of people who are convinced that the Romans "stole" the gods of the Greeks and... um, I feel the need to talk and analyze this thing with you. Because the matter is much more complicated than you think
Like SERIOUSLY, the pjo fandom and Greco-Roman mythology enthusiasts in general need this chat.
First of all it is important to understand how the Italic populations came into contact with Greek culture, and who the first Romans were.
Southern Italy (Sicily, Calabria, Campania and Puglia) was colonized by the Greeks since the 8th century BC.
Like any colonization, the local population had to adapt to the culture, religion and language of the colonizer (in Italy there are still two dialects coming from ancient Greek. Griko in Puglia, and Grecanico in Calabria). Every part of the territory considered Magna Graecia (Megàle Hellàs) presents archaeological finds relating to the Greek colonies, and with them also temples dedicated to the gods. (So much so that in Sicily, at the beginning of spring the Antesphorie (or antephorie) were celebrated in honor of Demeter and Persephone, for example).
The entire Etruscan pantheon was strongly influenced by the Greek one. The indigenous deities were joined by the Hellenic ones, creating a new religion.
But still: who were the Romans? The legend of the foundation of Rome refers to Romulus and Remus, but from an archaeological point of view the Romans were probably the result of a mixture of Latin, Sabine (plus Samnites and Sabelli*) and Etruscan peoples. The latter influenced the initial Roman Pantheon the most. Just think of the similarities between the Etruscan goddess Menrva/Menerva and the Roman goddess Minerva.
The same applies to Maris and Mars, who among other things share holidays in March (a month dedicated to them moreover).
Unfortunately there is not much information on the Sabine and Latin ethnic group, but it is known for certain that Etruscans had contact with Magna Graecia, and the Greeks in general, so their culture was never unknown to the Romans.
So what does this tell us? That the Italic populations knew the Greek Pantheon, because they had been colonized and/or influenced by the Greeks. The first Romans can't exactly steal something that's already part of their culture.
*Samnites, Sabelli and Sabines were part of the same ethnic group, and although all three groups can generally be called "Sabines", I preferred to specify. At the same time it is not known how involved the Picenes and Irpinians were initially with the birth of Rome, so I have not mentioned them.
#it was a very quick and not very in-depth post#but it's late and I just needed to vent about this#if you want to make a joke about the Romans stealing religion from the Greeks that's completely ok#I do it too!!#but I think it is important to understand what really happened in the early period of Roman history#the Romans didn't wake up one morning thinking “you know what I should really do? steal a random religion”#the historical context is much more complex than what one might commonly think#and I understand that in schools outside italy there is no interest in explaining the phenomena that led to the birth of the Roman religion#but in doing so in my opinion it creates a great confusion that could be avoided#did the Romans assimilate numerous religions throughout their history? absolutely#just look at what happened with the Egyptian and Mithras#it wasn't a question of cultural appropriation but more of “I pray to all the gods that exist so no one can get angry with me”#greek myth#greek mythology#roman myth#roman mythology#roman history#greek history#pjo#pjo series#please learn about the Etruscan gods because they are much cooler than the Greek and Roman versions
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Episode 15: "Happy New Tear" (Show Notes)
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Yes, G was sick when we recorded this episode. And what about it
[00:04:25] An example of the type of Rhink youtube compilation Appa is talking about
[00:04:49] A definition of "ficlet," for anyone unfamiliar
[00:06:15] Appa writing 500k words of Rhink fic
[00:09:13] The Twilight book covers in Finnish: Temptation, New Moon, Doubt, Breaking Dawn, Midnight Sun, and Life and Death
[00:10:53] The Good Mythical Morning episode about the "Finland doesn't exist" conspiracy
[00:14:02] “Speaking of chapters” has to be the world’s worst transition from summary to summary I'm moving to Antarctica goodbye
[00:14:30] Shannon’s summary:
TGITC everybody! Thank God for the Cullens, they are truly the stars of this chapter in so many incredible ways. Alice gets to meet her best friend even though she has never once actually had a conversation with said best friend. Rosalie promises to try not to tell Bella she’s a dumb shitbitch for both finding Edward attractive and willingly being around vampires. Emmett is off doing damage control because Edward has upset Rosalie again, and Jasper is keeping his distance but somehow still having a great goddamn time fucking around with everyone’s emotions and laughing at Edward. Carlisle and Esme are just relieved that Bella isn’t scared shitless, and Bella is thirsting for some more of that sweet vampire info, baby. And Edward’s there too I guess.
[00:26:06] An example of an attempt to imagine the khaki skirt as tolerable
[00:32:17] Edward be like
[00:40:49] Turns out there actually were witch trials in Finland, notable because most of the accused were men. Also note that in this case the witches were strangled before they were burned 😬
[00:41:16] A few historical witch hunt misconceptions, including hanging vs burning
[00:43:18] Tumblr user @panlight's debunking of the "sewers in 1660s London," complete with a few sources and a better potential explanation
[00:42:57] Hear/read more about the origins of vampires in folklore in Episode 7 and its Show Notes
[01:24:31] “Doing like a Benjamin Button thing”
[01:47:35] Follow Appa on tumblr here and check out Rowan Menerva's children's books here!
Thanks for continuing to tune in to our wacky little podcast in 2023, y'all!
#show notes#episode 15#twilight podcast#twilight#twilight saga#twilight renaissance#twilight revival#life and death#midnight sun#podcast
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Hellenic religion: Etruscan incorporation
The Etruscans were the indigenous people of ancient Italy, living in areas like Tuscany (from where the region gets its name). Their language was an isolate, their culture pre-Hellenic and pre-Roman, and their religion greatly influenced Greco-Roman practices.
For one, their central gods (aisar) can be matched to the Greek and Roman pantheons one for one. Uni, Ethausva, Menerva, Zerene, Artume, Turan, Laran, Turms, Tinia, Nethuns, Sethlans, Rath, Fufluns and Aita parallel with Hera, Hestia, Athena, Demeter, Artemis, Aphrodite, Ares, Hermes, Zeus, Poseidon, Hephaestus, Apollo, Dionysus and Hades. In the case of Greco-Roman religion, Artemis and Neptune (Poseidon) may have been borrowed from their Etruscan counterparts (Artume and Nethuns).
A possibly older pantheon of sixteen heavenly rulers seems evident based on Etruscan astrology: Tinia, Thufultha, Thneth, Uni, Tekum, Lusa, Nethuns, Katha, Fufluns, Selvans, Letham, Tlusku, Kelsklan, Kulsans, Veioves and Kilens.
Their notion of Summanus (god of nocturnal thunder) may have influenced Pluto and Hades, and their Etrusca Disciplina (a body of religious texts now lost to time) appears to have influenced animal-based divination in Roman religion (such as the use of birds and frogs to discern omens).
While their language is no longer spoken and their religion gone, the Etruscans left behind an imprint of indigenous Italian culture through their assimilation into the Roman world.
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Big day today, my kitchen is finally finished and the DVD of the film I'm in arrived!
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Check out this listing I just added to my Poshmark closet: Lacoste Menerva 319 1 CMA Dark Khaki Men's Size 11.
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Menerva Tau, Untitled (2015)
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Bronze mirror depicting Menerva (Athena) in the centre holding up the head of the Gorgon Medusa, with Ferse (Perseus) seated left and Turms (Hermes) seated right. Etruscan, 400-350 BC.
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📚La presentazione di oggi si è conclusa in maniera meravigliosa. 🌟Abbiamo letto la mia fiaba, abbiamo parlato, sorseggiato tè 🫖 e mangiato biscotti. Grazie alla libraia Antonella ❤️ una persona splendida @menervalibreria 🙏🏻Grazie ai bimbi e adulti che sono venuti e mi hanno ascoltato. A chi mi ha chiesto autografi, sogni e speranze. 📖Ho dato un piccolo pezzo di me anche a voi. 🌟 #libreria #bookstagramitalia #eventi #preaentation #scrittrici #libri #fiabe (presso Libreria Menerva) https://www.instagram.com/p/Cl_2M2VjKoi/?igshid=NGJjMDIxMWI=
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