#anti pjo gods

[my-pjo-stuff]

*Grabs the Microphone* The gods are violent oppressors who have committed a massacre that could also be called genocide since it concerned the almost complete wipeout of a specific group of people. Said group mostly consisted of the gods' own children who were still kids. Since that happened during what canonically was called a war, that makes the gods genuine war criminals. Percy and Annabeth aswell as most of the other cast just accepted that fact while actively helping to uphold the system allowing such atrocities. *Leaves*

[a-sparrows-melody]

Rick Riordan try not to make every "strong" female character be snarky and mean and insult and be obsessively toxic and hurt other characters, especially male character challenge extreme.

Rick Riordan try not to make all male characters stupid or unable to function without their significant others only to raise the status of other female characters under a fake, fragile mask of feminism challenge impossible.

Rick Riordan try not to pair up every single character and/or force them into the Hunters of Artemis and make them aro/ace challenge extremely impossible.

Rick Riordan try to write a book without piss jokes, pedophilia, victim blaming, excusing rapists, grooming, child trafficking, weirdly suggestive manipulation (not in a good way), ABSOLUTELY NERF complex characters, incorrect representation of Greek, Roman, Norse and Egyptian mythology, incorrect representation of minorities and smaller ethnicities/POC/culture, fake feminism, LGBTQIA+ community challenge MISSION ABSOLUTELY IMPOSSIBLE.

Rick Riordan try not to nerf your own plot and timelines and your own characters only to create cash-grabs that appease all fans by creating something "fanon" and promoting bullying, stereotypes, stupidity and toxicity and forget why the hell you wrote the series in the first place CHALLENGE. ABSOLUTELY. EXTREMELY. IMPOSSIBLE.

[lady-menrva]

I had a thought. So we know that unclaimed demigods new to the camp just get dumped in the Hermes cabin till they get claimed, right? I wonder how that affected Luke...like, imagine seeing this poor kid, disoriented in this strange environment, desperately praying to their parent to be claimed, only for it to happen days, weeks or even months later. It just exposed him to the PJO gods' apathy towards their children some more.

It likely reminded him of his own neglectful treatment (by Hermes) and catalysed his downward spiral/made him more susceptible to Kronos' manipulation.

[justaneedle]

“—but most of all I hate Rick's bad writing.”

/The Lightning Thief/

/The Sea of Monsters/

/The Last Olympian/

[lost-youth]

“I wish suffering comparable to Luke's for the rest of their immortal lives to each of the 12 Olympian gods, except Hestia,” Kelly said. “They're to blame for the suffering of millions of demigods. I wish them suffering of only one of all.”

***

“I wish them only what they condemned Luke to with their indifference,” Kelly shrugged. “It's not my fault that they're immortal, which means they have to suffer forever.”

[trashc-anon]

if I'm remembering Greco-roman mythology right, Cupid/Eros had two types of arrows: gold for love, lead for hate.

had the shower thought that Cupid couldn't hit Luke with either option. Boy loves and hates in equal measure, that's why he was the perfect villain, and Cupid/Eros love that passionate shit. If Eros could, he would claim Luke.

Also, Fortuna? Roman goddess of luck? She has beef with the Fates, who typed the noose around Luke's neck so tight and made sure he never had a chance. It goes against Fortuna's very existance! I think she will throw a him a bone in future incarnations just to spite the old hags.

[fandomluver-101]

The "Good Luke Castellan" tag essentially being "Luke Castellan worships the gods like a good boy" will forever piss me off.

And the fact that more than half the "Good Parent Hermes" fanfics change NOTHING about PJO Hermes is part of why I don't read PJO fanfics my friends keep spamming me (and now some anon on top of that - you'd think me ignoring you is sign to stop).

I dislike most PJO fanfiction because the bulk of the fandom don't see an issue with the gods, Camp Half-Blood, Chiron, and even Percy Jackson himself (because you came to camp, got claimed within a week, got a cabin to yourself, got praise for a quest you really shouldn't have gotten, and now feel you can look down on the unclaimed and minor demigod kids for what? I like Percy, but he is just as much of a problem as the gods).

[books-and-media-stuff-by-fa]

Hello my dear percy jackson fandom?

I just have a question.

The last few weeks i saw many "anti"post in the percy jackson hashtags. Just people ranting about things they don't like about the Percy Jackson.

I am just wondering where all this negativity is coming from.

Is this a New development or have I just spent these last few years in a bubble of bliss ?

[fallensonofthewineanddramagod]

"Is there anyone from your cabin you consider stupid?"

[He sipped his Nectar, setting it down.] "Stupid? Kind of. Annoying? Definitely."

"Blind? Oh don't get me started."

"Like they try and convince themselves that the deadbeat bitch we have as a 'father' is genuinely a good one, and he's obviously not? He's the prime example of why half of us are in our graves. But nooo, I'm always the pessimist or something or blah blah-"

"Oh my Lord Kronos shut up? Please?"

[He counted down on his fingers,] "talking bad about me rather than him is pure stupidity and you honestly should've known better than to think I wouldn't find out. Then we're gonna talk about the fact they're trying to turn him into a good father, good luck with that, you'll need it. "

"And then there's the ones defending him soooo much and it's embarrassing. I'm embarrassed to be even part of that nuisance of a cabin."

"Minor exceptions? I guess. (Shout out to my baby bro Raven muah love you), but over all??"

"-10/10, would not recommend."

[my-pjo-stuff]

You know what? If you dislike and want to criticize Luke for the crimes he committed you are more than free to do so. But please remember to keep it up with the gods and CHB too in that case, since they did pretty much the exact same things Luke did just in a slightly different (sometimes even worse) variant. Like let's be fair here people! If you wanna blame one character for the objective crimes he has committed you'll need to blame EVERYONE for the objective crimes they did.

[fanfic-lover-girl]

Are the gods really all that better than the titans???

Luke was wrong to wage war against the gods because the titans are evil -

Based on what? Rick never explains why the titans are evil. Not that I know of. Kronos ate his kids, so what? It's a shame he didn't eat Zeus. Is Zeus any better? Really?

Here is a short list of things the so called "better" gods have done:

Zeus murdered an innocent woman in cold blood, and also attempted to murder innocent children.

Artemis enjoys turning boys, children, into animals.

Hades cursed an innocent young girl because he couldn't attack Zeus who murdered his mortal lover. This had ripple effects which caused Luke and May's lives to be ruined.

Hades tried to murder Thalia in revenge for Zeus trying to kill his kids.

Zeus and Poseidon were willing to go to war, risking the entire human race, because their egos were too big. Zeus couldn't be bothered to launch a proper investigation, instead blaming Percy who knew nothing about the divine world. And Daddy P couldn't just swear that he didn't do it.

The gods, mainly Zeus, put the world in danger because they refused to take the threat of Kronos seriously. Same applies for Gaea. Thank goodness for Hera who actually tried to get something done.

The gods have monster kids or curse beings into being monsters who hunt their demigod kids. The mortals are also at risk.

Zeus tried to murder Percy. Who was on the quest to find his blasted bolt by the way.

The gods show hardly any concern for mortal lives put at risk. Apollo and Hermes didn't care about the mortal lives endangered in Staff of Hermes and Singer of Apollo. They were more concerned about saving face.

What about the titans who supported the gods who were screwed over? Bunch of backstabbers.

The gods can rebel against the titans but it's such a crime for Luke and others to want to rebel against the gods. Give me a break.

[lady-menrva]

Can we take a moment to talk about the recurring “it’s not problematic / offensive, it’s quirky” theme throughout all the three series? The entire discussion would get too long so I’ll just split it into parts and throw the spotlight on PJO here:

• ADHD and Dyslexia as superpowers: Just no. This has always rubbed me the wrong way. Want to include representation? Be real and sensitive about it. He barely even portrayed or talked about it in detail. A lot of the time, it just seemed plain derogatory and tokenist.

• Artemis and her “badass” hunt: In hindsight it seems straight up predatory and objectionable. What do you mean she mostly recruits young girls who don’t even have well-developed decision making skills. People have come out and talked about how it also seems to mirror unethical recruitment of young children in real life.

• World War II as a plot point: This has been talked about before, and I’ll throw in my two cents- the Second World War was one of the most tragic and impactful events in contemporary history, with a complicated background and multiple sides at fault. Watering it down to some conflict between demigods is unacceptable and disgusting.

• Camp halfblood in general : Camp halfblood is also just child soldier central, just like Camp Jupiter. Children were sent out to die on a routine basis in the name of heroism long before the conflicts with Kronos. The fact that this is never acknowledged or changed is just horrid. They could stay safely in the camp atleast for some time but what is the need to send them on quests? And please don't come to me babbling about how Percy challenged the gods about this, when he himself was a puppet for the next 5 books and counting (plus, even in trials of Apollo the child soldier system doesn't change). Or about how gods can't intervene, when they in fact, can.

[justaneedle]

Actually it's not necessarily Rick's bad writing- I mean, OF COURSE it's his bad writing, but that absolutely normal for Chiron and Dionysus to fucked up everything —Luke right under their noses— as hell.

I really don't understand why Thalia had to fight the monsters and sacrifice herself for Luke and Annabeth RIGHT ON THE BORDER OF CAMP HALF BLOOD.

Literally WHERE were Chiron and Dionysus? They KNEW that getting Thalia to camp was very important-hell, why didn't CHIRON HIMSELF COME INSTEAD OF SENDING GROVER?

Just another one of Rick's terrible writing choices that make no sense. This has been bothering me for a long time..........

[justaneedle]

I think we should not forget that Camp Half-Blood is about child soldiers and always was.

The fact that the Roman Camp is even more focused on this doesn't negate the entire TLT core conflict, where these kids were already going to fight each other cause of the gods.

[fanfic-lover-girl]

It's terrible that the issues that demigods face are now due to family drama. Now the pjo fandom is painting some gods as abuse victims, and I'm not having it.

Too bad Percy never made any real change either. Luke basically died for nothing.

Decades have passed and yet the Percy Jackson fandom still struggles to accept one single uncomfortable truth: Luke Castellan's actions, though destructive, were the catalyst for change that Olympus desperately needed.

was Luke's method ideal? not really. it’s like setting fire to a house to force a renovation. but in a world where immortals hold all the cards, sometimes extreme measures are the only way to force their hand!!

-> the olympians are not gods, they're basically glorified bullies with lightning bolts and tridents and Luke understood this. he knew that asking nicely wasn't going to cut it. the gods only pay attention when they're hurting. so guess what? he made them hurt. and the hurt and anger they felt doesn’t come even close to the trauma and hurt their children felt thanks to their neglect. the gods' discomfort was a mere shadow compared to the lifelong scars they etched into their children's souls.

-> and you know what? the Gods deserved every bit of it. think about it. these so-called "divine parents" abandon their kids, leave them to fend for themselves against monsters, and then have the audacity to demand loyalty. the trauma inflicted on demigods is immeasurable - unclaimed, unloved, and treated like disposable pawns in the gods' petty games. you’re not you, you’re not yourself, you’re just a role in their game. you think you know who you are, but do you really? you don't know your mother's true name. you don't know your father's true name. they don’t even know your name. and one day, you won't even know your own name.

you're just a loose thread, easily discarded. your name? It's written in sand, waiting for the tide of divine indifference to wash it away. you are born into a legacy you can't escape, a story written long before you took your first breath. your so-called divine parent? they are just a blank space on your birth certificate, a question mark that haunts your every step. and then you walk the halls of Camp Half-Blood, surrounded by faces that mirror your own confusion, your own loss. you are all wearing the same mask, playing parts in a cosmic play you never auditioned for. these strangers with familiar eyes might be your siblings, but you'll never know for sure. you are all one big, confused “family”, bound by shared abandonment and the faint hope of recognition. you are all adrift in the same turbulent waters, clinging to each other in a desperate attempt to stay afloat. each of you is a drop, indistinguishable from the next. your individuality dissolves in this ocean of uncertainty. you might share the same divine blood, but that connection is as tenuous as foam on the waves. the gods, in their lofty perches on Olympus, see you as nothing more than a ripple on the surface of their eternal existence. remember the first time you held a weapon? that wasn't your choice. it was your inheritance, your burden, your curse. you didn't ask for this life, but here you are, another nameless soldier in an endless war. maybe, just maybe, if you bleed enough, if you win enough battles, you'll be claimed. but don't hold your breath. the gods are fickle. most likely, you'll remain unclaimed, another face in the overcrowded Hermes cabin, waiting for a sign that may never come. your achievements? they are not yours. they belong to your godly parent, another trophy on their dusty shelf. your failures? oh, those are all yours to bear. you are not a person. you are a prophecy waiting to happen, a quest waiting to be assigned. you are a pawn in a game so old, even the gods have forgotten why they're playing. and then there's Luke. Luke, who dared to rip up the script. Luke, who looked at this joke of a life and said, "no more." remember this: even a single drop can cause ripples. and when enough drops come together, they can form a wave powerful enough to shake the very foundations of Olympus. THAT is what Luke understood. he saw that together, these forgotten drops could become a tsunami of change.

so you think the gods would have suddenly grown a conscience if Luke hadn't shaken things up? dream on. it took a full-blown war, the near-destruction of Olympus, and countless demigod deaths for them to even consider treating them like more than disposable heroes. it wasn't a gentle awakening, sure. it was a rude, brutal shock to their system. but after millennia of slumber, sometimes you need a lightning bolt to the ass to wake up.

so, again, -> Luke spoke their language. he made them bleed, made them fear, made them realize that their actions have consequences. it is not pretty, but it was necessary.

Luke was the earthquake that shook their ivory towers, the tidal wave that threatened to drown their golden thrones. Luke made the immortals taste mortality, forced them to swallow the bitter pill of their own failings. Luke's actions were the violent birth pangs of a new era. he made the gods bleed ichor and sweat fear. for the first time in eons, Olympus trembled, and in that trembling, they finally, FINALLY, realized their actions had consequences.

it was raw, it was brutal, but by the gods, it was necessary.

[fallensonofthewineanddramagod]

"How shitty is your g-dly 'parent' (Devine deadbeat)?"

"Oh he's shitty alright, all of 'em are, but that thing specifically?"

"Get him permanently away from me. Permanently. Away."

"Like he 'cried' for Castor, so what? So what? The guy knows what we all have to go through, they made him camp director and yet we're left in the goddamn dust to fight all these things their battles. He's horrible at his jobs, and we can tell with the amount of dead people that increased because he's just so DAMN lazy. "

"Like no wonder he was stripped from his godhood reduced to a mortal, not even as a mortal he's worth something or even so much as a nice person. He makes me sick."