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and everything was fine forever
#inspired by the update heheh#homestuck#my art#rosemary#rose lalonde#rosebot#rose#kanaya#kanaya maryam#candy timeline#meat timeline#hs:bc
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goofy ahh corpse.
#dirkjohn#johndirk#dirk strider#john egbert#ult dirk#ultimate dirk#hs^2#hsbc#meat timeline#ult dirkjohn#homestuck#mine#'is he falling in love with himself? and idealized version of john thats in his head? or is john soul around and dirk can somehow hear him?#or ult!dirk is insane and need therapy hmmmmmmm'#-bug#lmao#bug.bites#FUCKING....... FFFFFFFFFF UUHHHHHHH...... DIET NECR#HEEELLPPP... SOMEONE HELPP MEEEEE
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WIP (trying to get out of artblock)
comms are still being drawn dw!!! i am just trying to get out of a mini artblock
#homestuck#hs#hs dirk#dirk homestuck#ult dirk#homestuck dirk#dirk strider#dirk strider fanart#dirk strider art#dirk strider hs#homestuck fanart#homestuck art#hs art#homestuck dirk strider#homestuck epilogues#hs epilogues#meat timeline#hs meat timeline#ultimate dirk#art wip#current wip
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~ULTIMATE JOHN~
made myself an ult john design it's based off of someone else's own ult john design, tho i don't remember the artist's name, but i rlly fucked with it a lot
doodles (ft. his weapon the meathammer + typing quirks)
i like to think as now as a robot from the meat timeline, he doesn't have a voice box yet. so he only communicates through robotic sounds and emoticons i don't have an official backstory for him sadly lol, but that he's from the meat timeline
#homestuck#homestuck art#hsbc#john egbert#homestuck john#ultimate john#ult john#johnbot#meat timeline#ms paint#mspa
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Some johnrezi inbetween comms
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Anybody want some treats?
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okay I’m not a huge dirkjohn shipper but. epilogue dirkjohn
specifically ult dirk and candy john. like, total control of the narrative villain vs some divorced father. and then they kiss
#homestuck epilogues#homestuck#dirk strider#john egbert#dirkjohn#ultimate dirk#candy timeline#meat timeline
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I know its illegal to talk about homesick but fuck you, I do what I want
#homestuck#john egbert#homestuck epilogues#hs epilogues#homestuck fanart#john egbert fanart#hs fanart#homestuck meat#meat John egbert#or#meat!John egbert#i honestly don't know#meat timeline#im not in the fandom I swear to god#im just hyperfixated
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Hi everyone ive once again remembered that i should post my art on here
So heres meat timeline jake english bc his outfit goes hard
Also ignore the bg pls and ty <3
(Also, yk the deal, click for better quality! B] )
#homestuck#homestuck art#homestuck fanart#homestuck beyond canon#homestuck2#homestuck 2#jake english#jake english fanart#fanart#art#meat timeline#idk what else to tag this#hes very sad#depression in the wrestling ring#<my new pop punk band name#anyway yeah i interpreted the ref poorly which is why the bg is Like That try not to think abt it#hes hanging outside of the ring#in theory
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I really do wonder if Vriska's VN Hell will address about her part in creating Jack Noir, had planned to battle him to show off she's a hero, but never went through as Jack Noir still lives in both Meat and Candy
Bitch had wasted time experimenting on a lonely girl's sleep pattern with her powers, trapped her friends on the meteor, caused people like Dad, Mom, Bro, lots of Carapacians, Aimless Renegade, their Dream Selves, etc.... to get killed because of him, and by the end, dude is spared from his life and has a fucking girlfriend. Even if the Homestuck Snapchats are canon and that Jane is currently mind controlling Jack Noir there in the Candy Time of Beyond Canon, dude lived in the Meat Timeline and probably has kids with Ms Paint as they piss on Spade Slick's grave with no mercy. Doesn't help the team is speedrunning all of Vriska's arc if they had to skip Eridan and John's talk. The writers behind it probably couldn't make the talk between Eridan or John good because they are too far up in their own asses trying to reach Vrisrezi or June Egbert as soon as possible. Fuck the boys who played some role into Vriska's life. All it matters is that Vriska is redeemed by the end and she is seen as lesbians in the eyes of the fandom. Pretty art and sprites is enough to distract others from bad writing and bad music.
#homestuck#homestuck fandom#hs2#homestuck 2#homestuck^2#homestuck2#hs^2#Vriska Serket#Jack Noir#Bec Noir#Homestuck Snapchats#Candy Timeline#Meat Timeline#Homestuck Beyond Canon#HSBC#Eridan Ampora#John Egbert#Vrisrezi#June Egbert#Scourge Sisters
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vl presentszz…. dirkjake Sadsad radio!
1. Holy ghost - modern baseball
2. Man of war - radiohead
3. Star - mitski
4. All my happiness is gone - purple mountains
5. Lucky charms - moldy peaches
6. It ain’t me, babe - bob dylan
7. Good guy - julia jacklin
8. Pictures of you - the cure
9. Once more to see you - mitski
#dirkjake#dirkjake angst#sadstuck#homestuck#413#dirk strider#jake english#Oh god guys i’m sorry about this i know these kinds of posts don’t do over well but i just can’t stop thinking#i had to share#they hurt me so good#owwwwww#Beeee with me alone with me alone with me#sadstuck dirkjake#ultimate dirk#ult dirk#earth c#candy timeline#meat timeline#mitski#dgd#dream ghost dirk#ghost dirk#homestuck epilogues
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Backlogs from last year, inspired from the fic puppet loosely strung by nutrimercenary.
I also have an older post that looks awfully the same as the 2nd image....
#dirkjohn#johndirk#john egbert#dirk strider#ult dirkjohn#mine#ult dirk#meat timeline#homestuck#homestuck epilogues#homestuck^2#touch starved dirk#<- i should use that tag more#fic rec#disguisedbacklogs#me and my 2623462196312 dirkjohn backlogs hell yeah
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✦ Hound mode ✦
#meat! food for the pack! we're eating well tonight!#for context I mentioned earlier that in their setting normal four-legged dogs don't exist#which is a bummer since in canon timeline Vasco likes to hunt and in that era hunting usually involved a lot of hounds#and they just have to do without#own art#own characters#CanisAlbus#art#artists on tumblr#Machete#Vasco#anthro#sighthound#dogs#canine#animals#modern au#comics#typically sighthounds are also known for their high prey drive but I think Machete's reaction time and fitness leave a lot to be desired
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[Master Post] [Previous] The Spring Collection: Interludium IV
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I wonder what ol' Meat Sweats is up to? 🤔😒
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Ok now for the epilogues. Spoilers if you didn’t read them.
Maybe I was too harsh calling it an undercooked steak in diahhrea, it is in fact, an acceptable, very rare cooked steak covered in vomit and diahhrea.
The epilogues actually has cool ideas and explores some very explorable and important aspects of Earth C. Hey, these teenage Gods who lost their universe and family and walked among the alternate universe corpses of themselves so they could inevitably create an ultimate evil are NOT fine and are indeed immature emotionally stunted and fucked up creatures!
Maybe separating the world into ethnic kingdoms causes unnecessary division and preserves the cultures and communities of the Sburban races and player races as much as it cultivates division and alienation from national and ethnic borders.
And also Lord English’s rise and fall are not complete, his masterpiece is yet to be done and his ultimate devise is yet to be unleashed, we gotta fix it, or don’t. This does exist beyond canon, so there’s no one true canon timeline that MUST be the events that really happened nor is this a continuation or ending of Homestuck, it ended at Act 7 silly!
So the comic preludes with John doing the ultimate hero sacrifice thing and goes on a picnic with Calliope and Roxy, his choices are Meat or Candy, substance, or style.
It then all goes to shit.
So as it turns out, you can completely unlearn your character arc and regress back into really shitty ideas and habits especially when you isolate yourself from human contact! Enter Dirk Strider.
Dirk Strider is God. He is the writer and the narrative, what he says in Orange text happened and will never not happen. He watches his biggest threat, John, retcon back into Canon as a Canonless entity, beats Lord English with a fatal wound, lets Terezi and John have steamy car sex so he may let his father be proud, and retroactively makes John die to bullshit narrative venom that never existed and kills his soul, he doesn’t even get a dream bubble afterlife, he’s the first real protagonist who dies forever.
Dirk of course narrative the narrative to his will, that’s cool that sets him up as a good villain, someone who will go as far as he can to change reality to get his way. However, he is not an ultimate amoral will. In Homestuck canon, apparently outside of Dirk’s control otherwise he could retcon it to not be that, narratives exist only when viewed from an audience, and the universe of Homestuck does not have the privilege to exist after all humans die and return to a slew of Carbon-12 atoms. If Homestuck’s story ends, it ceases to exist. The solution is we need to create Homestuck content forever to maintain their immortal existence as characters. That sounds cool, a cheat code to exist beyond the entropy of time, like Jesus Christ, Gilgamesh, Odysseus, and Don Quixote. Like these characters (and real ass religious prophet) they exist in our minds and we remember what they did, so in a way they remain in memory bottled as a captured moment of time that saves the dead from the void of memory to the maw of history. Dirk takes it a step further, they won’t be STUCK in their HOME NARRATIVE they’ll go on new adventures and never die.
Of course, there are two types of eternity. Eternal bliss and content, and eternal torment, and it seems the longer you live the more your life skews to these two fates, especially when you believe western ideas of death and the afterlife and not Samsara and the purpose of struggling from one life to the next with no permanent possessions but an eternal soul.
So what’s a man to do? Well for most of the epilogue instead of doing anything obvious he intrudes on a presidential election, he gotta distract the crew so he can ride solo. His biggest contribution is stealing Rose from her wife Kanaya Maryam and fucks off into space while he forces Jake English to declare his love for Dirk and shits his pants. He also does kewl narrative battle with God Calliope who is actually doing something instead of appearing last minute to obliterate Lord English and end the narrative control he has on Homestuck. Now she guards the universe, and she sucks at it. She mostly moves the narrative along, and forces the possession of a 16-year-old Jade Harley body and destroys the character development Meat Jade has. She mostly wants to get this timeline over with so she can move back to Candy’s timeline (oh boy) and act as a guard dog to the end of Homestuck.
Dirk wins and elects Jane (who is Trump because simething something Condesce’s tiaratop, even analytical fans struggle with Jane’s characterization, she’s more effect than cause) and he finally does what he needs to do, take Rose, tell Jake he doesn’t love him, fucks off and does the actual thing he needs to do in the sequel. Wow, underwhelming. It’s still a lot like Homestuck, characyers doe when Hussie and friends has nothing left to expand on them, a character takes a left turn to become a worse version of themselves, an in universe character takes over the narrative for their own goals and this one weird scene happens that you want to forget. Somehow Jake shitting his pants in the middle of a rally is more cringe and uncomfortable than Dave growing up for 13-years surrounded by felt sex puppets. At least the Bull Penis Cane had the dignity to not take itself seriously, Jake shitting his pants is integral to Jane becoming Führer of Earth C. It’s like a very rare steak, severely undercooked and has a high risk of tapeworms and vomiting on your plate, but steak is steak, it’s a good meal by design and even if you prefer medium rare it’s edible, uncomfortable to eat but edible. 6.5/10
The candy timeline is the seasoning, which is diahhrea and vomit. It came from food and you can still see chunks of good food in there, the problem is it is full of bile, shit, and inedible regurgitation of food that was there, in fact I think that came from the cake we ate before, what the hell?
90% of the AO3 tags the epilogues opens on apply to the Candy timeline. We see an even worse more outwardly evil Trumo Jane who goes full on Xenophobe and marries Jake just to raise an anchor baby while she romps with Gamzee. Jade, who has had no human contact for 16 years of her 23 year old life has gotten mega intrusive and horny. She will intrude on Dave and Karkat’s relationship, which still sucks so bad they needed Dirk to manipulate them into admitting they actually like each other (most popular mlm ship in Homestuck btw) and then Jade marries Dave and drifts away from Karkat, meaning this is the timeline’s second cuckold relationship. John and Karkat are the only cool characters as John gets major depression and regret that he didn’t save the timeline from Lord English and uses Terezi as therapy for his obsessive depression about doing the wrong thing. Karkat stands up to Jane and does a rebellion, it sucks until Meenah shows up and she gets to be the alpha troll with an actual character, and being way more competent than she was in her Sburb session. Lmao.
Jake sucks but then he divorces Jane and fills John with a hope that things can be better if you try and believe you can be the best person you are no matter what. This happens like 5 pages before the end of Candy. Roxy actually has a fun time marrying John, having a kid, and then divorcing his depressed ass, and while she has a hood speech (near the end as well) and leaving your hang ups to live the one life you got. Too bad she and her meat timeline counterpart both are apathetic to Jane’s current declaration of war on the trolls and their reproductive rights, which they avoid to mention how the mother grub lays hundreds of thousands of eggs per brood and never explores the biology and population growth of the troll race, racism is bad let’s put it that way, in a very very shitty analogy. Meat Roxy is also nonbinary and is transmasc nonbinary in the sequel. That’s cool, but why did a queer human refuse to oppose a reactionary until the last second I thought Homestuck was woke.
We also got new kids who do nothing, I don’t care about them, I just want to talk about all the weird cuckoldry, breastfeeding, toe licking (that an adult Gamzee does with a teenage Vriska!!!) diaper fetishism, a liiiiitle bit of pissing, complete character changes, and apathy to the new world these Gods birthed in the Candy timeline and how it offends me. It is both a middle finger and embrace to Homestuck’s weird moments. There was always that weird and off-putting moment where a character would randomly make a reference to something sexual or kinky. Smuppets are a huge part of Dirk’s character, Hussie does this dumb gag with a Horse Dildo and Horuss and bad censorship, and Doc Scratch preys on little girls to do his bidding. The epilogues does even more ridiculous fetishistic content that’s even more pronounced and intertwined to the character’s developments. We sure could have had Gamzee and Jane’s relationship be way less milky and passionate than it could have but Jake is still cucked. The epilogues did not have to ask what’s between Jade’s legs but they did anyway, it doesn’t even affect the plot, until the sequel. Anyway maybe they could have done something about body dysmorphia conflicting with the desire to keep and hold the memories of your guardian literally attached to you. (also they retconned Jade to have Bec’s tail because fuuuuuuuuuuuuck you) As far as I know Jade didn’t care about having a regular cis female body, and maybe she’d start caring a whole lot more when it radically changes. It would actually male me tolerate Jade having a dog penis, but no, it has to be offhandedly mentioned to answer the desires of porn artists.
She should’ve had a human penis instead.
So anyway there is something good in the Candy epilogues: it’s only the John parts, with Jake and Roxy helping out a lot in the end, and Karkat rebelling started out good until he gets shafted for Meenah and Dave meeting Obama. Oh yeah Obama was there, I wasn’t laughing at how absurd that was, I already had a bad taste in my mouth. I forgot to mention Rose and Kanaya and Vrissy with how boring their story was. They got to be happy, wow cool even the characters that finished their character arcs wrapped up in a proper epilogue got screwed over.
So was the epilogue formatted as an AO3 fanfiction outrageous, fetishistic, uncomfortable, and rodiculous? Yes. Is this postmodernist writing that challenges the concept if a proper epilogue and concluding character arcs? Yes. Does the epilogue explore how character live within and are controlled by the existence of narrative? More or less in the Meat epilogue, a little bit in Candy. Is it bad? Yes. It challenged conventional writing and it made something bad, not all postmodern works breaking the boundaries of conventional concrete elements of storytelling can be good, it’s challenging the status quo that counts. I’d only recommend the epilogues to people who can stomach shitty fanfiction.
The epilogues are the eternity that continues the narration for indefinite conflict, pain, and inevitable sorrow. This is hell and all our blorbos are stuck. Nothing can save them, not even a Toblerone. Poor June, destined to be canon in a canon that struggles to carry on, this is why I still headcanon John as a cis male.
I think since today’s the day, I should get off my chest what I think about Homestuck and the epilogues: the former is good and the latter is like an uncooked steak covered with diahhrea.
To elaborate, Homestuck is a cake that used too much baking soda and cooked in the oven for too short, its the same size as a cake but the outside is too airy and the inside is mushy and liquid batter, disgusting.
But there’s this middle part, between the layers that’s delicious as all hell, it uses grandma’s secret recipe and the chef was running a rush order, it’s a miracle he used the perfect ratio of egg to sugar to flour and milk, you can’t deny most chefs wish they could prepare a cake this good, and when one ingredient is off and it was underbaked, many critics would absolutely drop a solid 9 to a 5/10. It’s still good in my heart.
Now leaving the metaphors, I love this comic to an autistic degree. Its art direction and narration perfectly mix the feel of a strange adventure game published by some studio pushing the boundaries but had no budget so they end up reusing assets from stock images for most of its run, and for the second half abandoned jpgs for minimalist bean shaped heroes.
It has multiple flash animations, interactive walkarounds, and plenty of callbacks and reference to its own story beats and panels, it’s really good and even the secondary characters have a lot of dimension to them! The big issue was the pacing, and by god did Act 5 Act 2 cone out the miracle it did, balancing troll to human conversation perfectly, never abandoning the kids, and leaving a trail of breadcrumbs for the mess the trolls were about to make for themselves.
I even like act 6. Yeah I said it. Caliborn is funny, Calliope is eh, Roxy is the obvious character with the most going for her, Dirk has a good arc about his own struggles, but between him and the alpha kids, not so much. Jake had an arc for him to realize who he can be and his linits and how he should stand up for himself, and Jane was learning to trust her friends while being able to sleuth out manipulation or bad actors. Some of these words are in past tense because Hussie was now ping ponging to the boring 3 years where the kids are separated by dream bubbles and a long yard, almost never interacting with each other’s side of the 3 year journey (minus one DISTACTION by Rose and John hammering Bec’s head in with COOL NEW BREATH POWERS)
The pacing was a whole lot and openbound was a waste of time for 10 characters the fans could play with as dolls, but Act 6 Act 6 united both alpha and beta parties to actually do stuff.
But Hussie was also developing a (STILL UNFINISHED) adventure game(s) for his two new kidsonas that were going to give Alternia more breathing room and two new kidsonas an adventure to expand on the lore of Beta earth Roxy, Jake Harley, and a dead flighty broad.
After delaying when the comic should have ended by one and a half years, Hussie says “fuck it” and drops an awesome flash where everyone fucking dies. I was sad a little bit but remembered the comic had to end with the good guys winning so I just slogged another 500 pages watching a cool concept unfold: alter the timeline to unfuck the doomed timeline and fix the time paradox that would cause Lord English to not exist. Cool yeah?
The problem was after undoing 2000 pages of characterization Hussie needs to redo those 2000 pages and give characters worthwhile new arcs to solve, make everything both hunky dory on our way to the finish line but also start a new problem from railroading the characters into this new chance to win the game, and are clearly still coping or ignoring their other timeline’s struggles.
The best Hussie could do was 750 pages.
Build the new universe, kill the bad guys, save the troll race, finish Dave, Dirk, and Roxy’s character arc’s, we’ll finish the rest in a new timeline, the epilogues stuff. Drop in some vague shit at the last minute like “Ultimate Selves” “Aspect design and destiny” and some lip service to how these aren’t the same kids John knew, the look like them but they’re ever so different.
Then for like 6 months that was it, then the credits explained what happened to them and where they are now, and what’s unfinished.
Bonus updates we see a human cosplay space fish horns Hitler, a troll cosplay an immortal time demon hellbent on wrecking the corpse of every Universe he is aware of, and a carapacian cosplay a teleporting radiant dog demon that killed 3 parents. This was for Halloween.
Jane gets kidnapped by the goons you loved back when the comic only had 4 kids 3 adults a dog, some 4 chess friends, Jack, the midnight crew and the felt, and then she mind controls Jack and says she is going to get political.
Also the woobified side characters Wayward Vagabond and Oeregrine Me dicant are no longer “the deterrent of the original bad guy” and “silly marketable plush character who was once a veteran of the bloodiest massacre in Sburban history” they’re dead.
So what an ending huh, that was overwhelming, also unfinished. That epilogue should really tie in loose ends and end the narrative stakes of a work of fiction to a calm and satisfying pace like a traditional narrative does, boy oh boy can’t wait to expect that from the postmodern work of Homestuck hahahahahahahaha.
#homestuck#homestuck epilogues#my review#homestuck review#happy 413#413#5 years#meat#candy#meat timeline#candy timeline#unflattering slabdwr towards the work#meat is the worst piece of good media I ever read#candy is my favorite piece of shitty media#homestuck is hell#to continue existing in a narrative is hell#homestuck must end#we nees to move on and grow up#need#oops
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John egbert ate slimmer and that’s why everybody is sad in meat
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