#me: not interested in writing s1 travis
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itchose Ā· 9 months ago
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he's sitting alone on the floor in the hallway of the hotel, head lightly tapping the wall behind him over and over again as he listens to music to drown out the silence. it's preferable to the room he left, where his brother chomps his gum loudly and his father keeps picking apart everything travis is doing. travis knows he's just nervous about the game tomorrow, so he's taking it all out on him, something he's gotten used to over the years, but at least there was some kind of escape back home. there's none here, travis forced to share a bed with his brother just a few feet away from their father, stuck in close confines with no one else for him to escape to.
he doesn't even know why he's here at all, if not some sort of punishment, something that sinks in as he hears a door open and looks up to see the one he'd declared to himself as the mean cheerleader. suddenly, he wishes he was back in his room, feeling entirely too exposed out here because he definitely has nothing to say to her, and he definitely doesn't want to hear what she might have to say for him, but still, his hand slowly moves to his walkman to pause it, keeping his headphones on as a defense as he takes a deep breath and nods towards @manslaught. āĀ  don't worry. not gonna narc on you if you're just sneaking out, āž he mumbles, his eyes immediately darting to the floor, more annoyed now because he wonders how mad his father will be if one of the players actually did do that. he definitely won't be the one to tell him. Ā 
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the-lonelyshepherd Ā· 9 months ago
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"fanon lottienatters please stay away from me" oh!! shots fired!! 2,000 dead, 10,000 injured!! BUT curious about your specific definition for fanon lottienat and what you dislike about it <33
ohhhhh okay... alrrrrrr
this is like. one of my biggest issues. im not like a shipper, never rlly have been until yj but i dont like engage in discourse bc thats stupid.
But basically? Fanon lottienat just kinda strips anything thats interesting about the ship away. and makes it like. punk x preppy. loser x popular. ive even heard black cat and golden retriever which makes me want to rip my eyes out.
And its not even accurate to their characterization? at all? like youre flanderizing them but like..... not even their main traits. like ive seen people say "precrash lottie would be like charlotte from status update (curse that movie btw. the things i do for u courtney eaton) which is just. like not at all.
first off lottie is not popular. yeah, shes rich, but shes clearly somewhat of a loner (WHICH PARALLELS NAT?? WHICH MAKES IT MORE INTERESTING???) even courtney has said this in interviews. she feels ostracized, and a lot of it can be traced back to the flashback scenes we see, esp those about her relationship w her parents and her supposed mental illness. the 90s, especially the 90s in a high pressure rich family, was NOT a good place to have schizophrenia (and yeah theres the "she wasnt actually mentally ill" argument but that changes nothing because atp in the story her whole family and probably herself believed she was.
Then we have the nat characterization. The fanon "grumpy" to fanon lotties "sunshine". guys canonically nat smiles more than lottie. girlie was always grinning while lottie was experiencing the horrors all of s1. ofc they both went THROUGH it but that specific stereotype pissed me off sm i had to address it.
also, nat gets shown a lot as masc?? which is a fine headcanon but like for her style like the whole punk thing? she acc dresses relatively femininely.those are little irks abt nat but they bother me idc. too tired to write more on this rn but feel free to ask!
so basically taking this stuff into account - fanon lottienat uses a gross mischaracterization of both characters, especially lottie (also that suspiciously align w stereotypes HMMMMM) to literally make the ship more boring. You are making it a stupid and lame trope. You literally have these two insanely complex characters who mirror each other. Theyre not opposites attract, they are the same character in different skins. They're both loners, one because of her punk/rebel nature and nasty rumors, the other because of her mental illness and lack of closeness to people. Theyre both loners because of their social status and their fucked up home life. Theyre both providers - nat the hunter, bringer of physical and real food like the deer. Lottie the prophet, bringer of hope and, through the teams eyes, the birds, the bear, etc. Lottie who begs to be a martyr but is denied nat who runs from it but shoulders it anyways. They're both bleeding hearts they both give soul to the team and are some of the most genuine characters but they present it so differently.
The fact that the majority of content grossly mischaracterizes them and is the widely accepted fanon just.. sucks tbh. and the fact that people get so up in arms about them, and literally attack fans of other characters (lottielee fans... travis fans....) for no reason?? all these other characters do is contribute to what makes lottienat such a compelling and fucked up and interesting ship. i love them so much but lwk most of yall are insane and dont even appreciate them for what they really are.
thoughts questions comments concerns hmu
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rexecutioner Ā· 3 months ago
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hihi! Wanted to know if there are two different versions of the vylad laur and dantes important au, like one with all cannon ships and bits, and one with non cannon like garrance or danvis because the boys polycule is funny to me
also sorry for NAPPING i was TIRED
hi amnesia hope you got good rest šŸ¤¬šŸ¤¬
There will only be one version!
Iā€™m probably going to write it with ships like Travlyn, Zana, Aarmau (but fixed), Garrance (who calls their best friend Honeybear??) but also hints of Danvis (Katelyn describes their relationship as ā€œthis is my bf Travis and this is his bf Danteā€) and Melcinda.
Ok so specifically Danvis and Travlyn speaking, while Travis and Katelyn are officially dating, going on dates and kissing and stuff, spending a whole bunch of time together, Dante and Travis are joined by the hip and are very close. As in they hold hands and hug a bunch, they enjoy each otherā€™s company a lot. (Gotta kiss the homies goodnight /hj)
When Travis isnā€™t hanging out with Katelyn, heā€™s with Dante and/or the boys/Not Alone Buds.
Travis doesnā€™t like being alone much, which mashes pretty well with Danteā€™s separation anxiety and they spend a lot of their time together in Loverā€™s Lane and Starlight before Katelyn and Travis actually start dating, and Dante is completely chill with this change and is Travisā€™ hypeman even though he know Katelyn doesnā€™t like him very much. However Katelyn is very much fine with Dante, his relationship with Travis has never bothered her and she knows that the bond they have is platonic. They end up hanging out as a trio a lot due to this and the fact that theyā€™re all sharing an airbnb together. Thanks Terry.
Afterwards Dante spends time with Garroth and Laurance, along with Nana (we were robbed of ANY kind of relationship in ms) and Lucinda. Travis spends his time away from his gf and honorary bf with Aphmau and Vylad, and occasionally sits in his room alone, reading. He usually spaces out while doing so.
Season 6 wrecks them, but thats a story for another ask. Post 6, their relationships with each other only strengthen, and Katelyn and Dante actually start to hang out together to get to know each other better than ā€œTravisā€™ sassy buff gfā€ and ā€œTravisā€™ pathetic wet cat roommateā€
Aka Danvis and Travlyn coexist. They fw each other.
With Garrance, they started dating in S3, their relationship strains a bit during S4 but it wasnā€™t either of their faults and they actually get closer as a result, they have a great time during most of S5 until S6. They have a wonderful bond that can not be broken, no matter what they go through.
They both however still crushed on Aphmau in PDH, and while Laur slowly lost interest by S1, Garroth didnā€™t until the end of S1 (specifically during the play arc šŸ˜ˆ) and started to realize he felt the same about Laur that he used to with Aphmau.
They bond during S2 bcs Laurance will be going on that goddamn plane, (this is when Garroth comes out to him as Pan, Laur is openly Bi) and once they start living together again they feel comfortable enough to confess to each other. Poor third wheel Zane has to deal with their flirting even before they get together.
Please ask me more im on a roll
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lottieurl Ā· 1 year ago
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incoherent travis related ramblings ahead. proceed with caution
so an anon wanted to know what i meant by calling travis's arc a deconstruction of gender and i'm not sure if i can properly word anything that's bouncing around my skull but here's to trying. so i think there are a lot of interesting writing decisions for travis even early on (now that we know where they take his character after that) like even in the first half of s1 where he's honestly making it so hard not to dislike him it's clear all that toxic masculinity is hurting him as well and he basically hides behind misogyny. he avoids being vulnerable around nat by lashing out at her with misogynistic insults just to stop her from seeing his insecurities. he makes other misogynistic comments around the girls seemingly just to keep them at arm's length. and normally that's something that makes a space unsafe for girls and women. a guy who seems to be bad at controlling his emotions and who is vocally misogynistic is a red flag both in real life and in fiction. and they put him with nat! and yes on first watch i Hated that. we learn that nat had a misogynistic violent father and then travis points a gun at her and shames her for her sex life. but what they do next though is so.. fascinating. doomcoming comes around and travis is taken advantage of and assaulted in a way we are used to seeing female characters being treated on screen (and honestly in the way that is common for most women to fear in real life). he's drugged, he gets kind of pressured into having sex he clearly didn't really want to have and then gets sexually assaulted. i think it does say something interesting about power and thus is a deconstruction of gender in a way and kind of refreshing in that it doesn't shy away from showing that. especially when there still is a persistent "feminist" view (hinging on bioessentialism and cissexism really) that argues men's violence is some inherent part of men as a whole that women aren't capable of on the basis of gender or even more to the point on the basis of their biology/"sex"
like i think it's narratively so good? because you're primed to think like. he's the danger. he lashes out and he's misogynistic. but they're in the wilderness where the power dynamics of regular society that they're from no longer apply and so he's in danger now by virtue of being a guy their age (which actually parallels the way ben in s1 is stripped of all his authority AND his health is put at risk because of a girl's crush on him) like all jokes aside and all gay headcanons aside there is obviously heteronormative framing that most of those girls look at the world through. and they're all drugged and traumatized and he very much becomes the target Because of his gender. even would go as far as to say around 1x08 is where travis becomes objectified (which in turn makes that scene from the first lake scene where they're like is he actually hot? kind of dreadful) and so what that means is that for him to stop being A Target is to become one of them which is what we see in s2 and what we call girlcoding of travis martinez lol
plus what kevin said about him wanting to belong in a group is really interesting. and i love the way his interactions with the rest shift in s2. him being A Guy is a huge part of s1. like he's not one of them not because he's not on the team - neither is misty she literally just carries equipment - but because he's a guy. and he does as much to alienate himself from them as they do to other him in turn. but in s2 TO ME it very much feels like his gender stopped being relevant and through that he removed the target from his back. and that happens through him joining them in all the rituals which neither ben or javi ever do. travis the first ever genuinely girlcoded character (real not clickbait)
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lggy Ā· 1 year ago
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quick question what is your favorite thing about zenix?
MCD zenix is such a tragic character in relation to garroth and theres so many crumbs and bits of lore you learn about him and shadow knights and what he means to garroth and it's so very compelling to me. the fact that multiple times thru s1-2 they bring zenix up only to shy away or be silenced is so frustrating and only makes me want to know more aughhh. I guess that says it's Garroth is what makes Zenix interesting to me. hes so connected to the main trio but hardly acknowledged so its really fun to write about him
and my simple answer is that hes a comedic relief with a tragedy behind him that's why zenix n travis are extremely by far my favorite characters. he also has a bratty cocky personality which shines super well in the darker themes. and hes a lil crazaayyyyy yay blood guts kill murder
mystreet/daily aphmau zenix is just a silly meanie pants guy that likes pantsing people and being annoying I lov him mwah
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canncore Ā· 3 years ago
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Hi! Iā€™m Liz, Iā€™m 18, and Iā€™m looking for a few new rp partners! Before we get into plots, here are the requirements...
ā€¢ 18+ muns only. I often like to include nsfw themes, so Iā€™m only comfortable writing with adults
ā€¢ 3rd Person Literate Style Only. Iā€™d consider myself literate to advanced literate and Iā€™m looking for similar partners.
ā€¢ I use Discord or Instagram, but I greatly prefer Discord.
ā€¢ Iā€™m willing to double up as almost any canon, but I canā€™t promise Iā€™ll do them perfect justice!
So now onto plots and characters! Fandom or SoL!!
The Walking Dead (S1-) / Telltaleā€™s The Walking Dead (S1) - Iā€™m looking for a Glenn (from the earlier seasons) for my OC Virginia. I have a few loose plot ideas / starting points, and Iā€™d really like to develop her more in this universe. As stated above, if you play Glenn for me Iā€™d be more than happy to play a canon for you.
Fallout 4 - Ginny is not entirely set up for this fandom yet, but I have basic ideas. As far as opposites, Iā€™m looking for Travis Miles, Nick Valentine or John Hancock. Once again, I can double.
Stranger Things - I have a very developed OC in this universe, the sister of Dustin Henderson, Debbie. I ship her with any of the older boys, from Tommy to Jonathan. My favorite dynamic, though, is Steve or Billy.
Friends - Yes, as in the 90s sitcom. I love the idea of having something set in this time period, so Iā€™d love to play against any of the boys, especially Chandler.
The Hunger Games - We could do something set in our own early games, or do something during the rebellion. Looking for Finnick, Gale, Peeta, Haymitch, or an OC!
Harry Potter - Iā€™m looking for a Fred or George, during about the 6th book/movie when theyā€™ve set up their shop. I think a romance would be fun! I would also gladly take a post-war Ron, Neville, or Harry!
The Maze Runner - Looking for a Minho! Honestly havenā€™t thought up much of a plot yet, but Iā€™m definitely willing to come up with some ideas if youā€™d be willing to play him for me!
Riverdale - Looking for FP Jones, Jughead Jones, or Sweet Pea! I know not a ton of people watch the actual show anymore (myself included, tbh), but i love the universe built in season 1 and early season 2 too much to not want to write in it!
Greek Mythology / Percy Jackson and the Olympians - Very loose ideas for this! I recently read a bts smut fic with elements of greek mythology and now i want in on that fun!
Fandomless - Virginia is originally set up to be fandomless, so thereā€™s plenty of plot ideas I have for her. Iā€™ve recently been craving something with pregnancy and/or children, so a lot of those ideas center around that type of stuff, but we certainly can branch out from that! Some specific faceclaims I enjoy are Milo Ventimiglia, Logan Lerman, Steven Yeun, and Jung Hoseok, but Iā€™m very flexible on who you play as, throw me all your favorite ocs!
Okay! Thatā€™s that! If youā€™re interested in any of these ideas please just shoot me a message or leave a trace on this post and iā€™ll message you!
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appleciders Ā· 4 years ago
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personally, im also deep in the station 19 muck but like you i wish i wasn't. randomly watched it because pandemic and maya bishop is just so compelling, even with all the bad writing i still love her sm. is there anything you would want to see for season 4? your hair cut fic was so good and i cant stop thinking about how much better the season would have been had it ended like that instead.
first off, sorry to both of us for being here! but i guess letā€™s take escapism where can get it, hey. second, thank you so much for reading the fic!! iā€™m super honored you liked it <33
as for what i would want for s4...whew. a lot, lmao. iā€™ll put in under a cut to save my poor non-s19 followers.
mostly, i want them to pleaseĀ slow down the pacing. let story arcs breathe and build and develop. last season was so rushedā€”ryanā€™s death and rigoā€™s death and pruittā€™s death all crammed in, andy and sullivan having a shotgun wedding out of nowhere, maya and carina fastforwarding to i love yous with only 30 second scenes and not a real date to be seen, vic hardly getting to process ripleyā€”i could go on. itā€™s cheap and messy storytelling. cut it out.Ā 
i also really want them to let relationships do the same. i want to see the friendships that were so strained last season to grow again. show me andy, maya, and vic being friends and supporting each other!! for the love of god!! (show me andy and maya being friends, period. for the whole season. the whole goddamn season. no drama between them, only supporting each other through outside drama. if i have to see another season where these ā€˜best friendsā€™ are at each otherā€™s throats half the time, i swear to god.)Ā 
show me more team-as-family! a) i eat that shit up, and b) thatā€™s supposed to be the underlying theme and premise of the show. show them laughing and goofing off together, show them holding each other up when things get tough, show them teasing each other to hell and back while they cook together in the beanery. invest in that again.
for the romances....developĀ that shit. honestly, i really hope andy and sullivan either break up or really do the fucking work to fix their relationship, because as-is, itā€™s a hot mess. and not a hot mess i particularly care to watch. i liked them fine in season 2, but the sullivan arc in s3 (which...not to out myself as having watched chicago fire, but which is a blatant rip-off of severideā€™s s1 arc in cf) puts him in a place where heā€™s not really ready for a relationship. and with the amount of shit they put andy through, sheā€™s not, either. i know itā€™s impossible on a drama, but i would really like andy to be single this season? idk, iā€™m tired.
maya and carina better not be all sunshine and rainbows. they need to do the work! they need to show the work! after that rushed-assĀ ā€˜forgive meā€™ scene (where carina was...pressured into forgiving maya like the day after she cheated on her??? and that was framed as a good thing?? make it make sense), they deserve to show them actually navigating that broken trust and rebuilding something real. and as someone who doesnā€™t watch greyā€™s, i really donā€™t know carina very well? 90% of her scenes were her supporting maya through her ongoing breakdown (though aĀ  totally understandable breakdown! not criticizing maya for having trauma), so iā€™d like to see more of a balance of support in the relationship and more development of her as an individual apart from maya. sheā€™ll be sticking around, and that will be much more interesting if she bonds with other members of the team.
dean and vic...look, my hands-down #1 wish for season 4 is that they treat vic hughes well, with respect, with screentime, and with a good arc. sheā€™s the absolute best. and as much as i love dean miller (hint: a lot), he needs to start guzzling his respecting vic juice if the writers are gonna try to set up anything. personally, iā€™d really like to see them move past it? awkward crushes between friends happen. putting myself in deanā€™s shoes, living with one of my best friends who iā€™m also secretly crushing on, watching her play with my baby...itā€™d be a lot too!! but that doesnā€™t excuse being a dick, so iā€™d really like to see them take some time apart, and then start their friendship back up on a foundation of honesty and communication. because theyā€™re so good, guys.
individual character notes!!!
well. i want every person at this goddamn station to go to therapy. they wonā€™t, but i want them to.
andy needs to go to serious grief counseling after season 3. compounded by whatā€™s bound to be a shitstorm from the discovery that her mother is alive? please. in regards to the whole mother arc, i really donā€™t want it her disappearance to have been like...gang-related. iā€™ve seen that posited as a theory, and thatā€™s just a whole bundle of stereotypes we donā€™t need to get into. i also want the mom reveal to be the main revelation that takes up the majority of her arc the first half of the season, just to have time to process it. the captainā€™s race took up all of season 1ā€”you can give this twist time to marinate properly.Ā Ā 
vic hughes, my moon, my stars! i really loved the snippets of vicā€™s backstory that they gave us in s3. as someone who lost a family member to early-onset alzheimerā€™s in november, 3x09 was...oof. a lot. i love how they committed to fleshing out her past and her backstory more and i love the emotional depth barrett doss always brings to the screen. for season 4, iā€™d love to see vic get to process ripley and jackson properly. (and here i repeat my forever adage for female characters lol: let them be single for a hot sec.) i want her to move in with maya, because i think that dynamic is so fun and ripe for exploration, and then iā€™d love to see her digging in to her issues and getting helpā€”going back to the firefighter group, actually talking, spending time with her found family. (sidenote: would love to see her help out with some like youth community theatre classes on her days off? developing connections with kids who have gone through losses, supporting them and in turn realizing the support she needs herself...tell me vic singing with kids wouldnā€™t be the cutest shit). anyway, i just rly want her to get a good storyline. but iā€™m not a screenwriter so like...hope they come up with one!
iā€™ve already written much more than iā€™m sure you wanted, so iā€™m going to condense the boys into one paragraph lol. i want jack gibson to heal himself and stop sleeping with taken women! his new found family is super sweet, so i really hope he gets to keep it throughout s4.Ā i want travis montgomery to get only good and happy things, and the same goes for warren. actually, iā€™d love to see warren step into his new role as team Older Person a bit more? i think that would be a really fun and heartwarming dynamic to play with all the other characters. dean i think i already touched on, but iā€™d love him to take a breath, apologize to vic and explain, and lean on the rest of his found family. heā€™s gonna be such a good dad and iā€™m excited to see more of that.
finally: maya. oh, maya. she needsĀ therapy. you canā€™t have a character say sheā€™s been dealing with suicidal ideation and anxiety for nearly 20 years and just...magically make it all better. she deserves to get to unpack all the shit with her dad, and all the ways thatā€™s impacted her. on some level, i kinda wish sheā€™d not stayed as captainā€”i love her scenes so much when sheā€™s allowed to be just chilling on the same level as her team. since thatā€™s not the case, finding a right balance of her as captain and her as friend is gonna be super important. i want her to open up to her friends and lean on them. iā€™d love for mason to come back, too? i think her trying to heal herself, establish herself as a team member and leader, and rebuild her relationships with her brother as well as her found family and girlfriend would be more than enough material for an arc. it wonā€™t always go great! this stuff isnā€™t an easy fix! but thatā€™s why itā€™d be worth writing. plus, so many members of the team have shitty relationships with their parents that even though they wonā€™t understand what maya went through, thereā€™s some really fertile ground for compassion and cathartic ā€˜fuck our dadsā€™ ball-busting iā€™d love to see seeded.Ā bonus fatherā€™s day episode where literally none of them are happy and they decide to like...go play laser tag or something.
anyway, iā€™m sure thatā€™s more than you wanted!! but thank you for the q lmao apparently i had a lot to say
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nephelite Ā· 5 years ago
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Improvements for S4
Things that I need for S4 of Station 19:
More friendship scenes: A lot of the friendships were non-existent this season esp Vic and Travis and Iā€™m so upset about that. I want friendships that are not about ā€œfriends with benefitsā€,Ā ā€œfriends falling in loveā€ orĀ ā€œfriends fighting over the same jobā€. I feel like once the characters had a love interest, the friendships were forgotten and I hate that. And the friendships need to be balanced. Some gets the fun scenes and others get emotional scenes. I want a mix of both for all friendships.
More cast scenes: One thing I really loved in S1+2 was that they were a family but this season we barely saw them as one. They barely had any scenes with the entire cast together sitting in the beanery talking and eating. I miss those scenes. Bring them back.
Less Greyā€™s Anatomy: If I wanted to watch Greyā€™s Iā€™d watch Greyā€™s but I donā€™t. I want to see the S19 characters. Some of them already have very little story and I hate to see screentime being given to Greyā€™s characters that do nothing for the S19 characters. Let S19 stand on its own. Also, if they didnā€™t have to pay the Greyā€™s actor all that money they might have more money to do more fire scenes which I was really missing this season.
More fire and less medical: Iā€™m tired that they barely spent time on the job and if they did it was mostly medical stuff. I hate the PRT stuff with Ben because it gives Greyā€™s characters a way to appear even more esp Jackson who I really donā€™t like on the show. Also, if Ben canā€™t be a firefighter on a firefighter show then maybe itā€™s time to ship him back to Greyā€™s. He was off doing his own thing this season like Sullivan and I thought that their stories were some of the most boring ones.
Less plot driven and more character driven: I feel like some of the storylines were so contrived and not organic at all. I hate nothing more than when a plot is introduced and it makes zero sense for the character and makes them totally OOC. I hate forced storylines and I feel like the whole Jackson and Vic dating and now the whole Dean suddenly having feelings for Vic out of nowhere to be those kind of storylines. The writers had to kill Vicā€™s friendship with Travis to make her BFFs with Dean this season so they could do this whole BFF falling in love with his roommate story happen. Thatā€™s just bad writing imo.
More balance: I feel like some characters got way more storyline and attention this season with depth and development and others got the bare minimum or none at all. Do better. Stop throwing a million storylines at one character and ignoring others. Give them an even amount. Itā€™s supposed to be an ensemble show so make it one. Instead of having the same 3 characters gets all the scenes.
Funny vs emotional: I get that some actors are better at the funny stuff than others but that doesnā€™t mean that they shouldnā€™t be allowed to get the emotional scenes. Iā€™m super annoyed that Vic got almost nothing in the emotional department this season. How they just skipped her entire grieving and summed it up in two little speeches and one little tear and instead made her the funny girl this season without depth or development.
Less romance: I donā€™t think that everyone has to date or fuck around. There are other stories for the characters. Iā€™d love to see more about Jack and his past and did he ever try to find his siblings? That would be a great story. I know people may not care for it anymore but not letting Vic grieve was a huge mistake and it robbed Barrett of a great emotional story with depth. Let her grieve in S4 and donā€™t throw her into a new relationship with Dean. Let the story be that Vic suppressed her grief in S3 and itā€™s all coming out now and she actually works through it (including flashbacks with Ripley since they didnā€™t mind bringing Pruitt back for a million flashbacks and still plan on doing it next season). Give me more of Dean with his parents and sister and Pru. I want to see more of Travisā€™ past and how he dealt with Michael and why he doesnā€™t seem to be able to fall in love anymore.
The Flashbacks: Some I liked and some I didnā€™t. Some really helped to sell a character and some I was just scratching my head because it didnā€™t really do anything for the character. The writers need to do better with the flashbacks and make some of them less contrived. And I think it was overkill with the flashbacks this season. They should do less of them next season.
Better storylines: This season consisted of fights, backstabbing, cheating, unnecessary deaths and super predictable storylines. I predicted half the storylines this season and thatā€™s just bad. There are other ways to create drama between a ship than triangles and cheating. There are better ways to let a person grow than death and if you are doing death then let it mean something and donā€™t do it for just shock value. Donā€™t let that character just be forgotten by everyone. So tired of writers using the same old stories over and over again.
The season wasnā€™t bad but it definitely wasnā€™t my favorite either. Iā€™m mainly a Vic fan so I was super frustrated with her lack of story this season.
I hope Krista and the writers do better next season.
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polniaczek Ā· 5 years ago
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some station 19 post-s2 observations
i really donā€™t like gr*y damon in ANYTHING huh :(
on that note, maya/jack ainā€™t it for me. i'm bored and unconvinced. there were a few moments in s1 where i thought they were going to go with maya/ryan and i think that couldā€™ve played out a little nicer.
ripley was hardly a character i kept forgetting his name
the whole vic/ripley thing was so short-lived and overstated. the ā€œlove of her lifeā€??? they lasted 10 episodes šŸ™„
iā€™m manning a single-person life raft shipping vic and maggie and i donā€™t care. they have chemistry!
andy/sullivan are fine. not interesting but not annoying.
one of lifeā€™s great questions: is the writing lazy or am i just bored with heterosexual romance? (i think itā€™s the first one)
ryanā€™s hair BUGS me no cop is walking around looking that scruffy
travis and vic šŸ’—šŸ’•šŸ’—šŸ’• my babes i love em
iā€™ve checked imdb and iā€™m already disappointed that we wonā€™t see more of deanā€™s girlfriend nikki. theyā€™re actually cute together and he was adorably excited to be near her and everyone agreed sheā€™s the Coolest AND sheā€™s maya's ex???? with a repressive demanding mother like deanā€™s?! she wouldā€™ve been the most interesting character on the show and iā€™m mourning her rn lol
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twdmusicboxmystery Ā· 6 years ago
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Fear 4x15: Analysis
Okay, who watched Fear last night? I really loved this episode. I totally freaked out about three different times. Let's just dive right in.
Ā **As always, spoilers abound for FTWD 4x15. Donā€™t read until youā€™ve watched! Youā€™ve been warned!**
In the opening credits, we saw a car with flashing lights. This is because we had several instances of walkers or people falling onto cars from great heights, making the alarms went off. Just having the car symbol makes me side-eye it, though.
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So, just as we suspected, Alica and Charlie found Strand and John. They had to go looking for some way to get them off the island.
John told Strand that he had symbolically relegated himself to an island before, but that "someone else took me off that island." I thought that was a really cool way to explain it and it definitely parallels to Beth and Daryl. We all know Daryl goes into survival mode intends to emotionally maroon himself on an island. It was Beth who brought him out of that, just as June brought John out of it. Yet another parallel between the two story lines.
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Searching for a boat to help John and Strand, Alicia and Charlie first look at a bathtub. It's one of those things they don't use and has no relevance to the story, so it must be symbolic.Ā 
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There havenā€™t been tons of bathtubs in the show, but there've been a few. The one that first occurred to me was with the governor in 4x06. In the same scene where he gets the backgammon game and sees a wheelchair, he finds a legless walker in a bathtub. A bathtub, by definition, could also be part of the Bathroom/Toilet Paper Theme.
Alicia and Charlie meet up with Martha (Filthy Lady). She tries to kill them, but then passes out from blood loss. They end up taking Alā€™s truck back from her and use it to go rescue John and Strand. I noticed they did actually find a canoe on top of the car, but didn't use it. So, the symbolism here was very strong.
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They see a bathtub and then a boat, both of which have major connections to water. (Beth = water)
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The other thing that occurred to me is that we saw the boat, and we all know that ocean/boat/sailor stuff is reminiscent of Beth. And right after that, Martha started shooting at Alicia. She didn't hit her, but she hit the car window and the glass broke. (Broken Glass Theme) It reminded me of 5x16 where Sasha fights with FG over the gun and shoots the glass picture. I'm just pointing out that we have an instance of water-related objects, followed by a gunshot that breaks glass.
Eventually, they do manage to rescue Strand and John from the island and reunite with all the others.
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Morgan's group is still stranded at hospital. First off, Jim pees off the side of the building, onto the walkers. He had reasons for doing so, but I couldn't help but be reminded of Daryl peeing in the moonshine shack. And remember, Jim is the one who makes his own homemade alcohol. So, we have a person associated with that peeing, just like there Daryl did.
Morgan's group (sans Jim) decides to go back down to the hospital and look for Al. She got out her own way and has disappeared. They don't find her in this episode. But all the walkers that were clustered at the doors of the elevator are gone. Something drew them away. And why did they not come back when Morgan tapped his stick on the ground? Because the roof had caved in and trapped them all.
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Guys, that is EXACTLY what happened in TWD 4B, when Glenn was looking for Maggie. Remember in that case, they were in a tunnel and the roof caved in, trapping all the walkers. In both cases, we didn't see the actual cave-in, just the aftermath. In both cases, a couple (Glaggie and John/June) reunited directly after.
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Morgan decides he will stay behind and distract the walkers so the group can get away. This whole situation was very much like S1. The rooftop even looked a whole lot like the one they left Merle on. Some people people (Morgan in this case) created a distraction so the others could get out, just like Rick and Glenn created a distraction so that they could rescue the others from the mall in S1.
Morgan ends up throwing a walker onto a car, setting off a blaring alarm to lure walkers away from the hospitalā€™s entrance. That's very much like the car alarm Glenn used in S1 to distract walkers away from the entrance of the mall.
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Now, at this point it's obvious that this hospital is not Grady. Remember we wondered before if the hospital scenes in FTWD could possibly have been shot at the same location as Grady. At this point, it's obvious that is the case. Even if it didn't look the same in the show, I think they would've told us on TTD that it was the same location. They always do that.
They actually named the hospital this episode. Itā€™s called St. Luke's, and we see a Travis County ambulance. I checked and there is more than one St. Lukeā€™s Hospital in Texas, and Travis County is real as well. But at this point, it really doesn't matter. This parallels to Grady are crazy-strong.
Morgan decides to stay on the rooftop with Jim, mostly because the generator is out of juice in the elevators not working. So, he really has no way down because walkers are filling the stairwells. He tells June that ā€œat least, I got you on your way back to John." That struck me as something that could be Beth-ish. Maybe he'll help her on her way back to Daryl and TF.
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I noticed they use the phrase ā€œclass A assholeā€ twice. I wondered if perhaps we could relate that to the A theme. Not only because of the ā€œclass Aā€ part, but because remember that during S7, tptb said the A on the back of Darylā€™s shirt at the Sanctuary stood for ā€œasshole.ā€ We knew that couldn't be all the A stood for because it wouldn't go with other instances, but obviously theyā€™re repeating the same patterns.
The entire group comes back for Morgan because they need him. He's become their leader. (Which is interesting because I remember a lot of people asking who the new leader would be when Madison died. (ā€œDied.ā€) People speculated either Alicia or Strand, although neither seem quite up to par. It's obvious now that Morgan has become the leader, rather than one of them. This gives him a lot of parallels to Rick because in S1, Rick was trying to make it back to his family ended up leading a group of people he didn't know. Morgan has now done the exact same thing. And of course, by extension, this gives Morgan parallels to Beth as well.
Here's the part that made me pretty much split water out of my nose. When Team Fear Family comes to rescue Morgan from the hospital, what do they show up in but a FIRE TRUCK!!!
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(ARE YOU FREAKING KIDDING ME?)
I mean, we have this hospital, and Morgan is trapped in it (technically on top) and all these different parallels with Grady. And then the group shows up in a fire truck? I seriously choked on my water when I saw that fire truck. I had to go rant to my group about how we donā€™t have to work for these parallels. Theyā€™re practically rubbing our noses in it. You don't get any closer to Grady than hospital with a fire truck in it.
Ā (Yes, I know there were spoilers about this some time ago, but Iā€™d completely forgotten about them and my jaw still dropped when I saw it.)
Interestingly, they leave the fire truck behind and just take Al's truck. So, just like in TWD, the fire truck doesn't go with the group or show up again. We don't know exactly what happened with that fire truck in TWD. Obviously it was left behind at some point too. But keep in mind that they used it to rescue Morgan in this episode. I don't know how or why, but somehow that fire truck had something to do with rescuing Beth.
(P.S. I have more to say concerning this hospital and the generators and how they relate to the Battery Theory, based on a conversation I had with @boltthrutheheart right after watching this episode, but Iā€™m gonna make that itā€™s own theory later in the week.)
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We saw the Breaking Glass Theme here when Morgan is trying to get down to the fire truck. He jumps down to a different level of the hospital and immediately a walker breaks through some glass and attacks him. I love that John Dorie shot the thing in the head all the way from the ground. That just makes him more freaking awesome than he already is.
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Jim gives his recipe for alcohol to Sarah before sacrificing himself so the group can live. He tells her to put the walkie to her ear so he can tell her that something only she can hear. That, too, is a parallel to S1. Remember that Dr. Jenner whispered something in Rick's ear that no one else heard. We now know it was that they were all infected. The rest of the group didn't learn that until the end of S2. Sarah seemed happy about whatever Jim told her, so I don't think it's a doom-and-gloom message. Even so, the parallel is there.
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Martha gets away. She writes the recipe on Jim's face and takes him as her new pet walker. (Does she strike anyone else as Michonneā€™s evil twin? Just wondering.)
What I predicted at the beginning of 4B is what exactly what has happened and is happening in terms of the plot of the show. (That it would probably take the entire back half of the season for them to all reunite and get back on the road to Virginia.)
At the end of this episode, Morgan stated that they were find Al (obviously what next weekā€™s finale will be about), and then they will go to Virginia together. So, things are on track as far as I'm concerned. I'm honestly not thinking weā€™ll probably see Beth next episode. It's possible we might see her as a final cliffhanger sort of thing, but I just don't feel like weā€™re quite there yet in story. If they meet her, chances it will be on the road back to Virginia. But still, everything we predicted so far for Morganā€™s group has happened.
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Iā€™m very happy about that. ;D (Really not saying this to call myself a genius or anything. Just saying that if you read the signs and symbolism, the direction of the show becomes quite obvious.)
To close, just a couple of notes about things that were sent on TTD.
Aaron Stanford (who played Jim) pointed out that Jim had dialogue foreshadowing. Before they went to the hospital, he complained, saying they shouldn't go because theyā€™d become trapped or separated and die. Everything he said came true. They did become trapped, got separated from Al, and he died.
On the one hand, it's sort of karmic justice because he was the one being negative about it, and therefore he was the one who died. That's just literature 101. The point is that they used a dialogue foreshadow, and then it was fulfilled. Remember how many dialogue foreshadows around Beth pointed to her living.
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Jenna Elfman point out something very similar. Talking about Morgan's arc, she said in the first episode of FTWD S4, Morgan ran away from Alexandria and ended up in Texas. Before he left, Rick told Morgan that would he find his way back to people. That eventually he would find people want to be with them again. That happened. In fact, that's what Morgan's entire arc has been about in Fear. But again, my point is that dialogue foreshadows happen and then are fulfilled on the show. Bethā€™s will be too.
Aaron Stanford also mentioned Cartman from South Park. I wonā€™t go into this too much, but itā€™s not the first South Park reference people outside the show have made. Itā€™s not even the first one connected with Beth. You can read the other post I did about this HERE and make up your own mind.
So, I thoroughly enjoyed watching this episode of Fear. Anything catch anything I missed?
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spotlightsaga Ā· 7 years ago
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Kevin Cage of @spotlightsaga reviews... Fear the Walking Dead (S03E02) The New Frontier Airdate: June 4, 2017 @amc Ratings: 2.698 Million :: 1.04 Demo Share Score: 8.5/10 @amc-fearthewalkingdead FB/IG/Tumblr/Twitter: @spotlightsaga **********SPOILERS BELOW********** Only after watching the 1st episode 4 times, was I able to become comfortable enough to write an extensive review. I've always felt like FearTWD came barreling out of the gate the exact way I would want any of my 'Dawning of the Zombie Apocalypse' series or films to do so. It was about psychology and sociology, unlike its violent, campy sister show. Not that I don't have a deep appreciation for TWD, because I do... Just like FTWD, TWD's characters go through a sort of transformation over time, becoming unrecognizable as the people we first met them as. Their environment and its rapidly decaying social constructs change them. Due to personal time constraints and working on other series... Oh, not to mention a member of my household that threatens death if I watch FearTWD without them, I was forced to split the 2-Part premiere up in what was supposed to be just two days... It ended up being almost an entire month. As frustrating as that is, it does give me a certain advantage of perspective because I didn't watch these episodes back to back in a bottleneck type fashion where I miss small details. I searched through my old review because at the beginning of this episode I notice after Travis (Cliff Curtis) is shot and opens the helicopter door to push himself out, the camera briefly pans down as Alicia unbuckled herself in attempt to stop Travis from jumping out of the copter. Only, when that camera pans down we see that it appears that Travis had been bitten before he had even boarded in the first place. I searched through my notes because I found that I mentioned nothing about the bite, or the possibility of the bite in my review of S03E01, but in my notes I have a bullet point where I listed that Travis acts odd as he boards the helicopter. Interesting, because Travis doesn't seem the type to even remotely put anyone in danger if it wasn't absolutely necessary. So then why would Travis jump on that helicopter with healthy human beings, including his much adored step-daughter? This is where the fun of psychology comes in with the show, and I'm so elated that FearTWD didn't attempt to walk us through these small points, because it gives us a chance to think about it and analyze the character's actions afterwards. I'm guessing that Travis was bitten in his 'bad-ass scuffle' with the undead. He knew he was going to turn, but thought the bite wasn't so severe that he didn't have time to make it to wherever they were all going so he could be with his family one last time before saying his final goodbye... Because ultimately, that's the kind of man that I've come to know Travis as... Bit with the added bullet wound in the side of his neck, Travis knew that his time had just been cut short, making his fateful goodbye a short and unsatisfying one as Alicia is left to put the puzzle pieces together, just like us, but in a much shorter timespan. For me, the look on Alicia's face as she watched Travis fall out, after seeing the bite and gazing back up to his neck, said it all. Alycia Debnam-Carey is so good at telling stories with her facial expressions. This isn't a woman who anyone would ever accuse of only having 'one look' or resorting to a 'furrowed brow' when the emotions became complex, I feel like we were told a novel in just a few seconds because of the powerful emoting that Debnam-Carey displayed in just a brief moment. RIP, Travis... You almost had your proper goodbye that you truly deserved. Unfortunately, this just isn't that type of world. Back at the new ranch that Madison (Kim Dickens) and Nick (Frank Clark) would be trying to call home, after just living in a tortuous hell with the owner's biological son, Nick contemplates rushing into the unknown to find the lost helicopter and the people who he loved that were inside of it. This has become a trait we all associate with Nick, I see that some viewers have become frustrated with this aspect of Nick's character... But, essentially, a young man his age, a recovering addict, he's going to indulge in self-destructive behavior, react on the first emotion that overwhelms his senses. This is a young man who has recently become clean, who's been placed in one emotional stressful situation after another. He needs people like Madison around to snap him into reality and good thing she was there to do so. This isn't the frightened, frail S1 Madison who could barely muster up the gumption to react when someone was in trouble. This isn't the empathetic, caring, very human S2 Madison who would sacrifice her needs and the needs of her family to save others. No, no... This is a 'lioness defending her everything' S3 Madison who will stop at nothing to protect her own and herself... And I absolutely love it! The fact that The Otto family, who runs this ranch and apparently others, is just allowing a murderous psychopath to run free, in fact almost allowing him to take part in the first 'mercy kill' back at that base tells me that something is very wrong here. The Patriarch, Jeremiah Otto (Dayton Callie) tells Madison that he was 'star gazing' and he saw 'Venus flare across the sky', insinuating that the copter had gone down and foul play was amuck. He even goes as far as to ask if Travis would have hijacked the copter, which makes no sense whatsoever and essentially brings even more suspicion into the strength and integrity of his character. Things always feel off when a new group of characters that have their own societal structure are introduced in a 'Walking Dead' series, but these guys smell like bullshit to me.... And again, I can't stress it enough, the fact they've allowed Troy (Daniel Sharman) to exist and literally run an insane Frankenstein/Dr Jeckyl type experiments on a remote base and now just rejoin them like no 'war crimes', so to speak, is straight bananas. Sure, he's still Otto family, but he's clearly unhinged and dangerous at least a small punishment would be a sort of gesture of faith to the new arrivals that his behavior wouldn't be tolerated where they all now rest their heads. As far as episodes go, 'The New Frontier' was much more cohesive than its first parter entry, 'Eye of the Beholder'. We are diving into both the psychology and sociological natures of FearTWD, and for me that's the show getting back to what makes it great. With Travis now dead, the show even takes time to revisit Victor Strand (Colman Domingo) back at the hotel, a character that it appears that many people had almost forgotten or at least thought had died somewhere along the way. He's been put in an interesting position, as well as cemented himself in that very position as a doctor... A job he's not exactly qualified for, but a job that will keep him safe at least for the episode... And actually further, as one of his patients who he had a recent tangle with, the very woman who had cause his injuries, gave him keys to a car right before she jumped off of a balcony. As the episode winds down Jeremiah returns to Madison while she's grieving over the loss of her husband... And this asshole has the balls to tell her that part of his job is to make sure that people are not a danger to themselves or anyone else. Hi, pot... Meet, kettle. This new 'No Fucks Given' Madison tells him straight up that 'its a bit too early to tell'. Gotta give my girl props on that line... Never did I ever think I'd be referring to Madison as 'my girl', but she's earned a lot of respect in the growth we've seen over the past two episodes, or from the beginning of the series to where we are at now. He knows she has the Beretta and tells her that she can keep it... Thats if she signs for it, a sign of trust in what's already a grim, sketchy situation. Keep in mind, this is more of a dig of trust from Madison who by signing for the gun is admitting that she took it. Sure The Ottos and Jeremiah are opening up their 'compound' to them, but at this point the question is... At what cost? In the closing moments we get the highlight of the episode, of the 2-Part FTWD S3 premiere, one of the highlights of the entire series. Alicia visits Madison and asks what the plan is. Madison has made up her mind, further cementing this new and improved S3 Madison... "We're gonna make it our home, even if we have to take it over." Alicia calls that insane... Madison responds and I can feel my pulse elevating, they are truly pulling as much tension from this final scene as they possibly can, complete with an ominous, perfectly placed original score. "No, it's our fate. We suffered to get here. Travis died getting here. You have to accept it. You have to be stronger." She then tells Alicia to tell her how it all happened in the helicopter as the episode fades to black. A truly chilling moment. Thoughts? Theories? They were obviously attacked, shot at it... But by who. My guess is one of The Otto's, directly under the orders of the Patriarch Jeremiah... Though, I wouldn't be surprised if it was somehow Jeremiah himself, just to up his 'sinister factor'. Now it finally feels like FTWD is truly back!
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valhallalullaby Ā· 8 years ago
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I needed to write about my relationship with women on vikings and especially with Aslaug for weeks.
Firstly, I've seen many posts here talking about how Hirst kills female characters on this show, and the thing I have to say to this isĀ : hell yes, y'all right. I used to love Vikings to the bones for its female characters, Lagertha(s1-2), Helga, Siggy senior, Porunn, Aslaug and Kwentrith, for example. Not mentioning all the loss of potential with all these characters and more. Cough cough- Yidu.
The only proper, and proper is a huge word, death a woman had in this show is actually Siggy senior, dying as she lived, bravely.
We never had the chance to see what Gyda, Thyri and Siggy Bjornsdottir could become. We actually never had the chance to see any female characters growing up in the viking world surrounded by men. Let us be honest, the women are the heart of this show. Fearless, fierce, brave women. Beginning with Aslaug, yeah, well, that's the all point of this post.
Like everyone else who started watching Vikings without any knowledge of the norsemen culture, I disliked her when she showed up. And I think that if you're not that interested in understanding the characters of this show, you'll stay stuck thinking Aslaug is a homewrecker.
The main point I like about Queen Aslaug is Alyssa Sutherland. The amount of hate she gets on social networks for protraying this character is disgusting. Yet, she stays polite and kind-hearted, and she is very protective of Aslaug. I honestly think that we couldn't have dream for a better actress to play the queen Aslaug is.
I recently watched a 40min long interview of her speaking of Aslaug. And you should all listen to it very carefully. Stop pretending Lagertha is a usurped victim. In the first EVER episode of Vikings, Lagertha says to Ragnar not to sleep with too many women in Kattegat. That says a lot about their relationship. Lagertha DECIDED to leave her husband because he humiliated her. And for that, I looked at her with a large amount of respect. Lagertha has been through many shit, so did Aslaug. Ragnar only was to blame for this. HE decided to sleep with another woman, who could bare him sons. What asshole could leave his wife cause she can't give him sons?(Henry VIII, and I think Hirst has a lot of Henry VIII issues to deal with).
Like Alyssa pointed out in this interview, Aslaug grew up alone, as an orphan. She is a volva(not a witch as catholic meant it), she Ā«Ā sees things other cannotĀ Ā». She knew when she met him that she bound to give Ragnar his sons. And I don't mean she isn't cunning, of course she is. And clever enough to become queen. When she realize that she is pregnant with Ragnar's child, her only concern is for her son not to grow up without knowing his famous father, like she did. Imo, this was not out of ambition, but mainly for her child to be born. Alyssa also said that Aslaug is scared of Lagertha, and that she keeps her in high respect. In series two, Aslaug actually says that she would like to be more like Lagertha. She knows Lagertha is a fierce shield-maiden, with a HUGE pride. And that's why she also left Ragnar to go make her own fame and history. Again, like Katheryn said in an interview to promote season two, Ā«Ā If there is anyone to blame, it should be Ragnar. I don't think Lagertha blames Aslaug for this.Ā Ā»
So what is this 4B bullshit againĀ ? Fanservice.
When Hirst wants us to look for strong women on this show, he makes them shieldmaidens. What about Helga, what about Siggy seniorĀ ? What about Kwentrith, Aslaug, Judith, making their own way without being in a shieldwallĀ ?
I mean it like I say it, Aslaug never murdered Ragnar in his sleep for her children. He raped her, yes Ivar is born of a rape, sorry. He beaten her(If s1-2 Lagertha had known this, she would have murdered Ragnar herself, being a victim of an abusive husband too). She had all the reasons to kill him, and imo she never did for her sons. So, thanks to shitty writing, she wasn't the best mother but in the other hand, she cared for her children. She took care of them, raised them when Ragnar felt like he didn't want to be king anymore. Wow, daddy of the year. She rose Kattegat to the title of major trading center, and kept it secure. Of what we saw, the Ā«Ā look what mess she made of my homeĀ Ā» was not canon at all. This storyline bares many contradictions it makes me angry. Both for Aslaug and Lagertha.
Hirst tried his best to make her a villain. The saddest part of this is that the one scene when Ragnar comes to apologise to his wife was Travis's idea. Hirst gave so much zero fucks that he didn't have this idea. Cause Ragnar and Lagertha forever. Even I, wouldn't do that with my one true otp.
What of Ā«Ā women should stick together more, and we should ruleĀ Ā»Ā ? Lagertha forgave Aslaug, in season two it was water clear. And suddenly, she became power hungry for a place she left willingly twenty years agoĀ ? I rolled my eyes so much I saw my brain. And on what purposeĀ ? It almost looks like she was taking Kattegat back to rule with Ragnar again. Yo, Lagertha deserves better than this shit. That was stupid and out of character.
In one of the latest episodes, Sigurd says Ā«Ā What is a warrior without his honorĀ ?Ā Ā» Well, apparently queen. Since murdering someone with an arrow in his back in acting with honor.
Now back to Aslaug and how she deserved better than to be pregnant 1,5/3 season she was alive. She is the daughter of a dragon slayer and the most famous shieldmaiden to ever live, for Odin sake. We never had a chance to see how she ruled when Ragnar was raiding or being selfish in exile. Everyone just assumed that she ruled badly. Ragnar is allowed to sleep around but not herĀ ? Even if at this point of season three, imo she didn't give anymore fuck about Ragnar. She asks him to come home for his sons, only for them. Bjorn is allowed to give up on his daughter and everyone assumed that Aslaug was responsible for her life and well-beingĀ ? It's more easy to blame her than one of the mighty sons of Ragnar, isn't itĀ ? Don't forget that, at this point, Aslaug was completely alone with five children to look after, neglected by her husband who was everything but kind and gentle to her. And that she felt betrayed by a man she cared about, once again.
I don't mean men to be role model fathers but come on, Rollo leaving Gisla on her own in Normandy, not knowing if his nephew would kill himĀ ? Ragnar leaving for almost ten yearsĀ ? Bjorn not minding his own daughter deathĀ ?
Aslaug freed Porunn so she could become what she wanted, a shieldmaiden and be with Bjorn. Aslaug freed Yidu so she could leave if she wanted to. Aslaug took risks to keep Ivar alive, risk even to have her own people hating her, fearing to be cursed by Ivar illness.
I would've liked to see more of Helga/Siggy/Aslaug friendship. But women on this show are only worthy of attention if they can fight in battle, apparently. Proof is that Helga is going mad, Aslaug is dead, Siggy too, Kwentrith too. Judith and Gisla character developmentĀ ? Destroyed to enlight men's storylines. Honestly, Ubbe saying that he and Hvitserk aren't jealouse cause they are Ā«Ā vikingsĀ Ā»Ā ? Rolled my eyes once more. Margrethe deserves better than being a Ragnarssons sex toy. Astrid deserves better than watching her lover lamenting herself over her one true lost love.Ā 
Aslaug not teaching her sons to be respectful of women is what made me even more angry with this season. Being neglected herself by their father, whom she loved truly once upon a time, I don't think she would EVER allow them to treat women like things. Even Torvi's development is reduced to ashes now. And I was honestly rooting for her at the end of 4A. She should remind Bjorn that she still have this crossbow she killed her second husband with, sometimes.
I admired Lagertha in the first seasons, but now I can't recognize her anymore. It's hard not to be resentful toward her since 4B started even if itā€™s all the writerā€™s fault. Even Katheryn is lost with all this, she doesnā€™t know on which foot to dance on interviews. Season four actually destroyed more characters than I could mention.
Writing strong female characters isn't writing them acting in a manly way. Female characters are diverse, powerful and brave in many ways, not only in a shieldwall. Stop killing off women Hirst, please. And give Lagertha her mind she seem to have lost.
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canncore Ā· 4 years ago
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