#mbj and sy: SHUT UP

[xmoriartea]

SVSSS AU Cosplay Edition

we all agree Luo Binghe is Airplane's self insert and Mobei Jun and Shen Yuan are strikingly similar. this we know. but please consider a cumplane situation where SY walks in on Airplane trying on a LBH cosplay a fan sent him and just gently having a stroke over it while Airplane is nothing but a goddamn shit about it

SY just deflecting to flustered rage seeing Airplane in demonic regalia. furiously typing away on his phone to find a wig he can add to the look because "its bad enough you're a hack author!!! you can't ALSO be a trash cosplayer!!" but mostly it's because he sees the vision™ (and has done his meimei's hair enough that he knows he can style the wig perfectly) and he cannot let anything but the rage show

too bad for him Airplane can sense blood in the water and just DELIGHTS in teasing SY over this. at first he was just trying it on because free things and now, oh now he sees his own vision and it's tormenting his best bro boyfriend over this forever

Airplaine pushing into his Yaun-er's space and crowding him up against a wall, watching the blush just bloom across SY's cheeks like wildfire

Airplane dropping his voice just a little bit, pulling out the first LBH pick up line he can think of

SY: Shut up shut up shut up A: Yaun-er doesn't want to play with Binghe? Maybe he should dress up too ;)

(Airplane definitely teases him about being his Little Palace Mistress just because of the sugar baby joking he makes near constantly re. SY's wealth and patronage)

SY does not stand a chance lbfh. he DEFINITELY does not stand a chance after he does Airplane's wig and makeup (thank you meimei)

flash to months later, because SY is nothing if not a vengeful little shit, where he has commissioned the full MBJ regalia, fusses entirely about the amount of titty the man canonically exposes because of a certain hack author, but puts on the PERFECT cold prince face when Airplane comes home and who's laughing NOW Airplane huh?? huh??

(it's still Airplane after he gets his jaw off the floor and ravages his favorite ice prince dressed as his favorite character

A, much much later: MBJ is not this twinky tho SY: SHUT THE FUCK UP!!)

[everytimewetouch-dot-mp3]

this is the serial killer direction i WANTED that actors au nonsense to go. all that shit is happening too, but this was the part that sparked that whole idea.

this post is loooong

warning binghe is an obsessive yandere freak 🥰 bingyuan are freak4freak tho so like…. it's fine

dead dove do not eat; he is a serial killer and he's kinda horny about it lmao

luo binghe is maybe shen yuan’s biggest fan. when he was fourteen, he saw sy as the male lead in a classical romantic opera and it inspired him to act. he’s seen all of shen yuan’s opening nights and most of his closings, and he was coached by shen yuan’s older brother (until shen jiu dropped him as a client…there was something Not Right about that boy and sj didn’t want him close). he’s got a bit of a shrine to shen yuan in his basement, filled with photos and newspaper clippings a few dried flowers—whenever he was given flowers on stage, shen yuan always tossed one back to the audience. binghe has three. he has every part of shen yuan he can get his hands on, but it's not enough.

when he and sy start working on sqh's game, it's like heaven and hell all at once. sy is even more beautiful up close, even kinder and funnier and smarter than he shows himself to be in the few interviews he's deigned to give. every moment lbh spends with him is ecstasy. every moment he spends apart from him is suffering unlike any he's ever experienced. every day he yearns to touch, to taste, to take shen yuan. to have him and keep him and treasure him the way no one else ever could. no one loves him like luo binghe loves him.

this video game they're working on—it's got a lot of endings. most of the game is the player on their own, but there's one path that gets the shitty teacher character as a companion. and further down that path…well, there are a lot of romance options in a game as big as this.

things start out fine; lbh and sy have great chemistry, it turns out. even when sy has to play the cruel teacher, it's got this undercurrent of something that could easily open the door for the romance arc later on. lbh knew they'd have great chemistry. he and sy are destined to be together; of course they'd work well on screen. they hang out between takes, eat their meals together, carpool when they can. it's amazing.

it's not enough. binghe burns with the need to possess his beloved, and every day he's denied what he rightfully deserves, that fire burns hotter. one night, he goes out to try to find a hookup, just to let off some steam. it's supposed to be a hookup, it really is. he finds someone who looks similar enough to sy from the back that he can almost pretend it's him. but his voice is all wrong, and his attitude is too brazen, and it pisses binghe off so bad that he chokes the guy just so he'll shut up.

it's just—he doesn't stop choking him until he finishes a few minutes later, and by that point, the guy is…well. mbj helps lbh scrub the body and cover his tracks, and the corpse is found a few days later with no real leads.

it happens again a few weeks later. lbh can't have shen yuan, but so many pale imitations throw themselves at him. and every time, he takes them to bed and he swears he won't get angry this time. it's not sy; he knows it isn't sy. there's no need to be angry with them for pretending to be sy when they're not.

he gets angry anyway. he can't help it. he accepts these men's advances, he takes him to bed, he kills them and kills them and kills them. eventually, news comes to light. the date-night killer, a deeply uninspired name born only from the fact that their last known locations were all night clubs. they're all around the same height, all have short brown hair and glasses, all similar builds.

one night binghe asks shen yuan if he wants to go get drinks. he knows a nice quiet lounge, not too crowded since it's so exclusive. shen yuan declines. jokes that he'd better not—the date night killer likes guys with short brown hair; maybe they'd go after him next.

the next body that turns up is…different. still strangled to death, but it seems like the killer (a copycat most likely, the cops say) felt regret afterward. on the victim's back, over and over again, is carved "i'm sorry i'm sorry i'm sorry i'm sorry…"

his a-yuan is afraid of him. luo binghe hates himself, and he hates all these people who put themselves in his path, who get themselves killed by daring to try to replace a-yuan in his heart. it's their fault a-yuan is afraid. binghe is the only one who can keep him safe. he knows he is.

binghe keeps it together until they're approaching the end of shen yuan's time in the studio. the arc is almost finished, and shen yuan mentions that in a month he'll be leaving for his next show's rehearsals. some opera, binghe's pretty sure; his hearing sort of cut out when his beloved said he was leaving. the news is a knife to the heart. his a-yuan can't leave. a-yuan belongs with him, no one can take him away. binghe needs a-yuan, and a-yuan needs binghe.

that night, luo binghe and shen yuan vanish without a trace. binghe has a house. it's under a false identity, and it's way out in the mountains. there, he can keep his a-yuan safe and comfortable. there, he can work to earn his a-yuan's affection. there, no one can take his a-yuan away.

he explains to a-yuan that they're home now, that they are together as they belong, that luo binghe will be the best husband to his precious a-yuan. and sy is so beautiful, so clever, of course he figures out that luo binghe is the date night killer. it's alright though, binghe promises, because he only killed those people for daring to imitate his beloved. now that he and his husband are finally together, binghe's got no reason to kill anyone else. they'll be happy together now that there's no one else in the way.

when shen yuan smiles, it's like the sun breaking through the clouds. he shifts, asks binghe to untie his arms. of course, binghe obeys. anything for his husband. he's not a fool; he knows shen yuan might try to fight and escape as a test of binghe's ability to protect him, and binghe's ready. but instead, shen yuan reaches out and stokes binghe's hair, his cheek. 'binghe went so far for me,' he murmurs, a hypnotic gleam in his eye that luo binghe has never seen. 'i hoped that night… i thought for sure you'd take me when i turned you down for drinks, but you tried so hard to be respectful, didn't you? well. maybe someday binghe will let me see him work? i quite liked the one you carved for me, but i really didn't need an apology. you can try again, can't you? will you make something pretty for me?'

the next corpse is rather beautifully arranged. the wounds carved into the body are artistic, elegant flowing lines and flowers carved into the skin. in the middle of its back, the double happiness character is drawn. shen yuan thinks it’s a lovely wedding present.

[mentallyunstablethembo]

Ok but hear me out.

Give me a Shen Yuan that was sick in his original body, ye? Nothing too special, I know, but please stay with me on this one-

Make him transmigrate, like he does die, he does get transported into the other world, but it's not as SQQ/SJ.

He has his own original body, maybe he looks a bit more like a xianxia character to fit in, maybe he looks drop dead gorgeous, sure!

But he's still sick

His sickness is still with him, and it's getting worse

Like, SY is actively slowly but surely dying, while maybe he befriends TLJ, SXY and ZZL (if he transmigrates pre-canon) and the three are trying to help him.

Maybe he meets a child SJ and takes him with him, so the poor child watches the only person that cares for him, actively dying.

Maybe he somehow becomes a beloved friend, peak lord or anything that makes the Cang Qiong sect adore him, and therefore be willing to find any cure for him.

Heck, maybe he's a powerful yet sickly and fragile demon!

Maybe he's even apart of the northern realm with MBJ, idk!

But the one thing stays the same.

Sy is dying.

Maybe it's not noticeable at first, like you'd take one look at him and sure, maybe he a looks a bit more tired, a bit paler, maybe even a bit thinner than what's considered healthy. Maybe he let's out a caugh here and there, some completely normal things.

But then there are those small (sometimes rather big) fits where his illness acts up.

Ones where he curls up on the ground, gritting his teeth in exctruciating pain as he coughs out blood, maybe he faints, maybe he has any other symptoms.

And then it gets worse, his health escalates, maybe he can't walk anymore as he's slowly losing his motor functions, maybe he's getting much weaker, his breathing worse as he feels like he's suffocating. Heck, give him any curse marks and stuff too, while you're at it, maybe even without-a-cure!

Point being, SY is dying, and there is no cure.

His death is fated to happen, while he's just waiting and wasting away, he's not that upset either (maybe a little bit).

Give me an au where SY is the mentor, the parental figure of all the sect leaders and demons, give me an au where SY is such a sweet and kind hearted person, one who still loves beasts and demons and everyone, yet is also slowly but surely being poisoned by the very air he's breathing, his body shutting down and wasting away as he's waiting for death, while everyone weeps.

Everyone is trying find a cure, maybe make one too, yet it's all in vain.

SY dies, he no longer has to endure the suffering of his pains, his illnesses, and while he passes away, he leaves behind many mourning a precious and beautiful soul.

[coolshadowtwins]

The story starts with SQQ and LBH, post canon and extras, accidentally dimension hopping. I don’t care about the why, or the how. If I did, this would be a full fanfic instead of ramblings on here!

What other dimension do they land in? Why, PIDW of course. Specifically, the PIDW that they had already met. Bingge is just… standing there, in the throne room they landed in, because it turns out the two had gotten transported to his palace!

LBG: Uhg. You.

LBH jumps up, pulling his sword and getting between LBG and SQQ.

LBH: Did you bring us here?! To take my Shizun?!

SQQ: No one can just ‘have me’ because they kidnap me-

LBG: Of course not! I don’t need you anymore! I have my own nice Shizun now!

LBH is pretty sure that his Shizun here was dead. SQQ was completely sure that LBG’s Shizun here was dead, and that there was no way SJ was anyone’s ‘nice Shizun’.

And then! Walks out! Shen Yuan! Pre-transmigration- shorter, thin, glasses, with hair being grown out and fancy robes.

SY: Binghe? …two Binghes?! And- the scum villain?!?!

LBH: wha- don’t call my husband that!

LBG, smug: Don’t yell at my husband then.

SQQ is freaking out in the corner at seeing his old face.

Bingqiu is stuck there for like… a week or something. SQQ hates being around SY. LBH is a bitch to SY at first, for the snide comments he makes to SQQ, then he starts to see some… similarities between SY and SQQ.

And then he starts thinking about it. How LBG didn’t get a nice Shizun, because his Shizun didn’t change when he was 14, and there was seemingly no reason for the difference, and now here SY was, so similar to his husband and has LBG wrapped around his finger.

He doesn’t want any more miscommunication between him and SQQ, so he just goes up to him and asks him if SY was him.

SQQ isn’t alone. SY and LBG were there. LBG, of course, already knew that, but SY sure didn’t! Before SQQ could answer, SY says that he could never be LBH’s mean teacher! The scum villain!

SQQ, having enough of his younger self, then argues back that he has done the best he could! And he wasn’t that mean, after everything! So maybe you should just shut up, huh?!

Many way, SY and SQQ are now having a full blown argument. LBG and LBH are just watching, really not wanting to get between the two if it doesn’t devolve into silence.

And then LBH asks LBG, “What about Shang Qinghua?”

LBG: What about the traitor? He’s dead.

LBH: I think he’s like Shizun. And he’s married to MBJ so…

This ends with SQQ and LBH going home, and having a nice long talk. LBG and SY live happily ever after. And LBG brings Airplane over for MBJ, which I think is an hilarious concept that I will write about later.

[phoenixcatch7]

Every so often I drift back to the overlord anime but I can never stay for long because it's a good 70% smut with the succubus and 20% side character drama that never goes anywhere. It's a similar premise to svsss, in that a modern guy accidentally gets sucked into a fictional fantasy world he was obsessed with as the villain with a group of people and a place he rules over and wants to protect, and his paranoia/procrastination combo strategises his way to victory.

So of course I thought, 'let's get our dear old scum villain (affectionate) in here'.

Cuz i'mma be real sy would make an infinitely more interesting panicking lich king. Take off that emotion nullification, for starters.

A) pidw was a vr mmorpg with a vast, overarching storyline of the rising emperor lbh, whom players could battle or wed for rewards. A respawning final boss of such strength it took a world wide unified invasion of top players to fell. When sy gets pulled into pidw and all the npcs come to life, so too does lbh, who is very confused as to what happened but remembers sy as one of the players who fronted the invasion (having dug up every nugget of lore on lbh and using that vast knowledge in strategy) and carries an immense grudge that eventually turns into love as he gets to know sy. Sqh is there too, of course, the uncredited game dev who made lbh and his right hand man mbj, who's own base in the north got retaken when mbj also resurrected and is having his own worrisome love story.

B) sy and sqh are in the same guild, named cq, and the demons are sqhs overly detailed npc. Lbh works as the guardian overseer, aka the head npc, and as they wait for the game to shut down sy sneakily makes a joke in lbhs character sheet about him loving sy. They get sucked in, the characters come to life, and sy spends the time he isn't using panicking about the situation, five dimensional politicking, or protecting the base being in denial about the whole lbh thing (and his no homo) and feeling DEEPLY guilty (and hiding it from sqh). Lbh, of course, now having free will, thinks about it a bit and decides to fall madly in love with his kind, gentle, soft hearted lich king boss in spite of his loyalty to his creator. Sqh goes 'dude, wtf' and so goes a very long back and forth as sy tries and fails to come up with the right code of ethics to deal with this insane situation he inadvertently created, meanwhile lbh is strategising how one could feasibly get railed by a skeleton and being the Best Housewife Right Hand Man Ever. And get headpats in the process.

C) sy was part of the xianxia themed cq guild, and everyone (the peak lords) got sucked into either ygddrassil (overlord world) or pidw (svsss). Basically, all the peak lords are millennials old friends running around trying to deal with the consequences of their role play and finally getting to try out the fancy food and drink. I love this one because everyone would be really comfortable with each other, lots of slang and in jokes, a well oiled team stuck in a crazy situation together with ridiculously powerful characters each and every one, and you could have sj as a member! Sy could be the beast tamer peak lord. It'd be so interesting to see what they'd class and subclass as. Sy might still be a lich, but Yqy would be a really interesting choice! Him and sj would definitely still have history though... Hulijing, wood elf, bamboo spirit, human, who knows!

D) sy spent a few years as the lich king guild leader in ygddrassil (I'm definitely not spelling it right), bored by the lack of anything interesting, before the system intervened (maybe as a remnant of the original game interface?) and whisked him off to svsss. Post canon he gets either revealed as an imposter or there's some past life wife plot (some animal that was a boobacious beauty in its past life getting cursed to switch between them?) that turns sy into his old big bad lich overlord form, which is hilariously incongruent with his personality but utterly terrifying and anathema to the jianghu, but lbh is now having to crane his neck back and desperately trying to figure out how to get dommed. Everyone is fully convinced this is sy's og body, and not some modern human one they don't even get to see.

E) sy gets yoinked by system and when lbh (and maybe some others?) catch up a few years later he's in the skeleton body in ygddrassil dabbling in world domination and very eager to see them. The npcs get introduced and draw many incorrect conclusions.

[zykamiliah]

#i think the only thing that might justify the sy shut-in headcannon (and yes im saying its a headcanon)#is the fact that he had access to the internet#whereas in svsss if he wanted to entertain himself or learn new things he would have to get out and see the world#but my main counterpoint to that is this: if someone is as reclusive *as the fandom sometimes makes sy out to be*#then he wouldn’t have had the skillset to be as charming or persuasive or amicable as we see him act in canon#and although it is possible for him to have discovered how to do those things himself after transmigrating#the speed at which he adjusted to everything would have been highly improbable if he was only interacting with people online#he was never outwardly behaving like someone who was chronically online or someone who struggled to make friends with people#if he had challenges with befriending people then that would have been relevant to the narrative.

#and i think the only reason why no one outside of his family is ever mentioned is because sy likes to ignore his grief.#his family was only brought up when he wanted to make a point about something#and narratively they were relevant so that we could read in between the lines and realize that this guy has a whole other life#that he refuses to talk about. the information about his family and his fixation on PIDW#are just grains of sand out of the OCEAN that was his life as shen yuan#the REAL chronically online transmigrator is airplane. he narrated everything about his past life partially because there wasn’t much going#on for him there! AIRPLANE was the miserable shut-in who only had online friends and wanted to do more than just slave away at his laptop#all of the airplane extras also provide us context for how sy might have behaved and interacted with other people before he was sqq#because if mxtx wanted to make it clear that sy was a recluse in his past life then she would have#just written him the way she wrote airplane#which is why I find their character roles so interesting#being a recluse who transmigrates and then learns to make friends with ppl in a new life is a v common isekai trope#as well as being an author who isekai’s into their own novel.

by all means airplane is the one who fits the bill to be#a standard isekai protagonist. (he even has a revelation that he is closer to mbj than anyone in his past life)#but he couldn’t be the protagonist for the story that mxtx intended to write- a parody that evolves into a meta analysis on#[a lot of things but for the sake of this argument:] the cycle of abuse #lbh needed the intervention of someone who feels COMFORTABLE ENOUGH TO BE IN A POSITION OF AUTHORITY + be aware of social consequences#(which nyy wasn’t) + someone who has enough practice with ppl to know when to be kind and when to be tough#sqh was too willing to be a doormat to other ppl- but he was gearing up to confront mbj until he finally snapped in the extras.#in order for the story to work lbh needed someone to call him out on his bs. which as we can see with sqh- wouldnt have been possible if sy#hadn't practiced social skills with people pre-transmigration. not to mention that the chronically ill thing is also a headcannon

*rolls out marriage proposal* please sign here @dumbfucksystem 😍

"Shen Yuan was a loser gooner shut in during his first life" Shen Qingqiu used to be hated by his fellow peak lords until Shen Yuan transmigrated into his body, so it was solely his personality that was so charming people went to war over his corpse. Please be serious

[zykamiliah]

Cosplay day at Cang Qiong High host club Everyone wears traditional costumes and wigs. Sqh begs Mbj to participate

Mbj: "Why me."

Sqh: "I have the perfect costume for you!! Please try it, senpai!"

They're on the same year. Sqh just feels that calling him senpai is appropriate. Mbj is secretly pleased by this.

Mbj is wearing something different from the others, he's supposed to be some kind of Northern nobleman—

Mbj: "A king."

Sqh serves him tea. "Of course you can be a king, senpai."

Mbj: "and who are you?"

Sqh: "Me?"

Mbj: "You have to be someone."

Sqh: "Hmmm well… thinks for a bit I could be a subordinate from the East kingdom, working under Shen Yuan…"

Mbj looks displeased at this. Sqh is instantly fussing over him, attentively pushing his favorite snacks towards him.

"or, oh, maybe I am a subordinate from the East kingdom that's actually working as a spy from the Northern kingdom!"

SY from his table: "So you are a traitor? I thought we weren't doing anything with plot today."

Sqh: "Change of plans!! Anyway, senpai, in the end, I'd be your subordinate."

Mbj: "Your king."

Sqh: "Yes… My king."

Sqh swallows. They look at each other for half a minute. Mbj's eyes shine with a strange, heated fierceness.

Sqh: "S-so… My character would say something like 'My king, I will follow you for the rest of my life!'"

Mbj, nods, satisfied, and drinks tea: "Qinghua is mine."

Sqh: "…"

SY, who is not so discreetly eavesdropping: "…....."

The whole club, blatantly listening in, specifically the moshang fans: 👀👀👀👀👀

Mbj: "…That's what my character would say."

Sqh: "Ah… Of course, of course! Ehem. My king?"

Mbj: *nods* "Qinghua."

Sqh: "My king…"

Mbj: "Qinghua."

Sqh: "…My king???"

SY, already sick of them and this close to flip the table: "Shut up and drink your tea unless you want me to kill your traitorous character in this story."

--

@mitchievousness

@elf-kid2 tagging you bc you wanted more moshang!

[friendlylifecherry]

So I was at work and I got an idea for a musical based around a modern Moshang wedding and all the clusterfuck surrounding that, because their families are both messes and shit will be tense, with the POV character being SQH's oldest half-sibling, who we'll call "Shang Reqi" (based on the word "hot air balloon" in Mandarin), with hits such as:

"Shut Up" (one of the few songs by MBJ telling LGJ to keep his bitterness shut up during the wedding; with a dark reprise when MBJ and SQH arguing about their very turbulent early relationship at the wedding rehearsal),

"Your Greatest Critic/The Only One Who Cares" (sung by Shen Yuan, acting as Airplane's best man about him being a blackpowder fan and yet somehow got the best man gig anyway because he's Airplane's best friend),

"Nostalgia" (villain number where LGJ can bust his chops and let's it known that his extra bitterness towards his nephew right now is because this is where MBJ's mother got married, first to him and then to MBJ's father)

"Shizun Says" (fun song by LBH, catering and MBJ's best man, about all the things SY says about what makes a great wedding, with a running gag through the show about everyone threatening to kill LBH if he dares to actually propose at the wedding even if he would never do that),

"For Once" (fast paced, almost pleading song from SQH that his parents, for once, actually bother being happy for him)

"What's with Da-Ge?" (Song with all of SQH's half-siblings asking why they hardly ever see him and why he doesn't really look happy when their parents are around; with an angry dark reprise between Reqi and their dad rehashing the old argument of why they hardly ever get to see Airplane, with some very scathing remarks that culminate in Reqi's summation that they never see Airplane because dad can't take any reminder of his ex-wife, not even his oldest son)

"Won't/Can't/Doesn't Want To See You (Your Excuse)" (an ensemble piece where, after the wedding rehearsal where shit went to hell as they always do in act 2, SQH is crying in SY's arms in his arms in his room, MBJ is trying to get past the rest of SQH's coworkers/wedding party to talk to him, SQH's parents and stepparents are arguing with each other about their neglect of SQH because he's been living in a crappy apartment pretty much alone for years, having to work crappy odd jobs and write out terrible porn to survive, and even was abused by his groom-to-be before dumping him back in high school when he was still living with them and none of them had noticed and they're playing the blame game, and LGJ is just drinking up what's left of the bar and cackling like a specter of shame and anger)

"Making Things Right" (a personal song with MBJ about making things right, both in terms of noodles and as a metaphor for him learning how to have a healthy relationship with SQH, with LBH as accompaniment as they make the noodles together for the wedding dinner and a serving for MBJ to offer as an apology for being such a brute at the rehearsal)

And finally "Can't Write Love Into Reality" (SQH's personal song about how he's been alone for most of his life and how even if he's a romance novelist (a claim that makes SY snort in disdain because his writing isn't much good), he can't just make love happen, which turns into a duet song at the wedding itself where MBJ and SQH admit that marriage is work and stuff that they're willing to put in to make things work) Look, I thought this through a lot, there's only so much to think about during manual labor. Shame I got like no musical talent whatsoever

[tossawary]

Hey, I just had a thought, and since you write SQH so well, I wanted to know what you think and how you might write this. So, I headcannon SY as very sick in his last life but also from a wealthy family so he has plenty of money to spare. So since we know Airplane was writing for money, what if after the first few chapters that Airplane posted, before too much had to be sacrificed for papaya for money, SY sent a comment or something that basically said, you were doing so good, the hell is this? Are you trying to write for money? Because I will pay you to keep your writing the way it was. And since SQH had said before that he hadn't wanted to sacrifice so much of his story for money, he takes SY up on it. I mean, at first, he was sarcastic back to SY since he didn't think SY would actually follow through. But they work something out and SY basically is Airplanes patron, with the caveat that they never meet. So they still eventually transmigrate but into more of how Airplane wanted his story to be. What do you think?

Thanks! I think that’s an interesting concept and a fun setup! How I would go about it would totally depend on the main character and the main relationship(s) of the fic, and what I wanted to explore with those characters and that relationship. It sounds like either Airplane or Shen Yuan would be the MC here and that Cucumberplane friendship at least would be present. 

There’s really lots of different fics present in that premise! 

Just the backstory itself might make a fun one shot. Like, a couple thousand words about these two assholes somehow manage to form a genuine human connection over stallion novels on the internet? I think that could be funny and oddly sweet. With some fun themes about how wish fulfillment and past resentments come out in stories and our perceptions of them. 

But I could also see Shen Yuan deciding not to engage in a real relationship with Airplane at all. Like, not just them not meeting in person, but maybe Shen Yuan decides to back off because he doesn’t want to “take over” Airplane’s creative process? Denying them a potential friendship? Maybe he’s partly embarrassed over the fact that he basically “keeps” an artist, except he’s the patron of the author of tropey web-novels. (Shen Yuan: “No offense, Airplane, but I would rather tell my parents I’m paying for an expensive new drug addiction.” Airplane: “Little bit of offense taken, but also, haha, I get it.”) 

So, going into the transmigration, the way I’d approach it would definitely depend on the relationships I wanted to explore. If it was about LBH and SY, it would probably be about Shen Yuan unable to cope with knowing Luo Binghe is destined to be a bitter and alone “man who has everything”. And Shen Yuan (idk whether he’s SQQ in this one) clumsily trying to lead Luo Binghe away from that sad ending of trusting no one, despite the harsh world. 

I am assuming that MBJ and SQH would not be the forefront of this idea because I don’t think their situation would change that much? 

The relationship popping out at me here is Cucumberplane (which I could see being done platonically or romantically) and the question is whether or not you want to give them the same canonical transmigration time difference. I would personally find it a little difficult to pull off a romance with the decades-long difference if they weren’t actually friends before transmigration, otherwise I imagine Airplane would have moved on from that acquaintance-ship. 30-40 years is a long time to be without someone. 

I guess whatever the situation, if the focus was SY and Airplane’s relationship, then it would be the two of them versus Airplane’s depressing worldview. Like, yeah, it was kind of interesting to read, but do the two of them really want to live that sort of story? And you could do some fun stuff with two shut-ins actually engaging with a fantasy world and trying to discover for themselves what the best parts of life are. That is, if they have any ability to manipulate the plot when they arrive, and it’s not just “mission objective: survive” time for them. 

[midnyghtmadnes]

Thoughts

So... I finished SVSSS. Gonna just stream out my thoughts. Will be long cause I wanna cover all my final opinions. Then I’ll shut up about it lol.

So, all in all, the novel was enjoyable and fun. Definitely can't say I have the same emotional investment in the characters as I do in MDZS though, except SY, he's my favorite.

To start, I guess this is where fanfics will come into play, but I want more SY and Airplane interactions. They're the only two that can truly understand the other's situation and I think that’d make for a lot of interesting and fun interactions. Though at the same time it's also funny how they have that understanding but their current relationship is basically just like, not a love-hate relationship. But a.. somewhat camaraderie I'll help ya out maybe if you need it-but I also don't particularly like you, relationship. Still, I am falling onto the Cucumberplane wagon (not in a shippy way though).

As for MBJ and Airplane.. I just wish the novel went into the status of their relationship after everything that happened. SQH was constantly stressed out by him and seemed to have had his share of beatings from MBJ. I saw shipping stuff with them as I was reading it and I was like.. ehhhh? At that point the only connection I knew was that MBJ was the one who was supposed to kill him, so I was like ?? Where did that come from. By the end of the extras, I wanna say I'm on board with it lol, but I just wish we saw more.

Tianlang-Jun and Zhuzhi-Lang... :( I love them and am really sad for them. And yes, I do constantly forget that ZZL killed Gongyi Xiao (who I liked a lot), but come on. He's snek Wen Ning and you can't tell me otherwise. I also actually like Shen Jiu's character. Which is kinda funny thinking about it, cause for example I know many ppl find JGY to be a sympathetic villain, and while I can understand, I still hate him lol. But SJ, who feels very similar to JGY in some ways, I find him really interesting and want to explore him more (that's what fanfics are for ayyy). Funny how all the antagonists of this story caught my eye lol. I didn't care for any of the villains in MDZS in terms of nuance (not that they were poorly written, but they just weren't the Type™ I fall for). But SV managed to get me to want to know more about all of them.

Bingqiu final assessment.... complete indifference. It wasn't as terrible as it could've been, and the extras did make it better, but idk. I flipped flopped a lot as I was reading regarding whether I was okay with it. The 50s chapters, no. Then it got better. Then chapter 80 happened and I was just.... it was genuinely painful getting through that chapter lol. I was constantly pausing and just.. collecting myself. Then the extras and I was like, hmmm it seems.. ok I guess. But I still think it's not the healthiest relationship. You can’t tell me his spiel in chapter 79 isn’t still a total guilt trip. Xin Mo exacerbates his negative emotions, it doesn’t make them up. He’s also constantly jealous even in the extras, making comments of suspicion on the slightest things and just wanting SQQ’s attention for himself. His whole world revolves around SY, and that’s just not a healthy thing for any relationship. It’s undeniably obsessive, and while I don’t see LBH acting on his jealousy, I think that’s only because “it’d make Shizun sad” and not because it goes against his morality. I think LBM is just as capable of doing messed up stuff (murder, torture, etc.) as LBG.

I also just feel like there's something that just doesn't connect between SY in the whole novel, and SY in the extras. By chapter 78 he still did not seem particularly reciprocative of LBH's advances. And even within the extras he's very no-touchy and anti-PDA. He tends to refuse LBH’s requests for intimate moments (until the crocodile tears guilt him into doing what LBH wants) and overall is easily embarrassed, like he's not confident in this relationship. I think at the least more lines of buildup should’ve been added, particularly in moments where it was just the two of them.

And you know what also kinda bugs me about it? I dislike how much the story pushed on that SY was confidently straight since birth. If you want to convince me that the initially ‘straight’/uninterested character ends up falling for another guy, just don’t push it so hard in my face contradicting that. Wei Ying flirted with girls, cool yeah. But the novel never gave the impression he was completely closed off to the idea. With how WY is written, I can totally see him being bi. But SY is more like, well I somehow ended up raising the ML as gay but hey that’s not so bad I guess, at the last minute. I can't say I ship LiuShen either, but I can definitely see the appeal when the canon alternative may easily not float your boat. Nothing beats Wangxian in my heart though 💕

As I expected, am sad with how the relationship with Cang Qiong Mountain ended up. I mean I guess it wasn't necessarily on bad terms, but basically his other disciples are left without their shizun and the sect's whole familial relationship is scattered. I guess it's because I appreciate Wangxian staying in the Cloud Recesses, having this space of theirs and the Jingshi that they can call home. I read the fanfics that have LWJ making WY a lotus pond out front and just their beautiful domestic post-canon life. I love that they can go out night hunting with the juniors. They can go out and travel, just the two of them, when they want. They could retire one day if they wanted. But they'll also always have a family to come back to. LQR begrudgingly accepting WY in time. The bread and butter that is Yunmeng bros reconciliation. Bingqiu.. doesn't really have anything like that. For instance, Liu Qingge and LBH are on terms that I don't feel could ever be recuperated the way WWX and JC could. I don't think Bingqiu could ever stay at CQM in complete comfort. So that's just a little sad.

Also is it just me who, when reading, would always imagine TLJ with short hair, even tho nobody ever has short hair in these novels lol.

Anyway lol, I think that about covers everything I can think of. If you got this far, you the real one ✌🏼

[pithyorangecurd]

Sqh is bitching at sy for being annoying and sy is like okay whatever. So is your boss fucking you still or? And he is, but thats beside the point. Shut up. Just because *I* talk about mbjs open tits all the time I dont want to hear about THAT GUYS open tits all the time. =_=

Okay cool. Anyways he braided his hair today 🤩😘🥰🥰🥰

And lbh is pressed up against the glass staring in with squiggly lines around his head promising sqh a slow death if his hand does not get two feet further from his teachers thigh.

Lbh would write friend fiction of him and his professor in college fucking nasty severely.

[everytimewetouch-dot-mp3]

one of the best things shang qinghua did in his first life was write herbs and flowers into pidw that served no purpose but tasting good in a pipe.

he misses his vape with a passion, but dried and ground Tranquil Cloud Fruit kind of tastes like his favorite vape cart when he smokes it. plus, it’s one of the only things that can get him relaxed enough to sleep when there’s a lot of work to do, so mu qingfang keeps it stocked on qian cao for him.

sqh spends 3 weeks barely sleeping while he balances the sect’s budget, and once it’s done he shuts himself up in his house with orders not to be disturbed for at least a week.

shen yuan goes to check on him because neither lbh nor mbj have seen him, though neither seems concerned (mbj is pretty annoyed at sy asking after sqh, and lbh seems…amused more than anything)

so sy goes to an ding to scare one of the kids into telling him where sqh is. they point him to the house, and when he lets himself in, shen yuan finds shang qinghua baked to hell, hand in a bag of melon seeds, nose buried in a yellow book

…shen yuan backs out quietly. shang qinghua barely moves at all

[fanfictionroxs]

Nothing just give me Mobei-Jun and Shen Yuan fighting over who gets to be Shang Qinghua's sugar daddy. Shen Yuan does NOT trust that icicle to not take advantage of the hack author under the guise of being a sugar daddy (does sy even KNOW what a sugar daddy is? also the hack author would very much like to be taken advantage of.. please ravish him mobei, his balls are bluer than you are) while said icicle is turning into a puddle of seething vinegar. Also, Binghe is crying in the background for obvious reasons.

[tossawary]

i know SQH has a super biased view of himself based on his low self esteem and also his meta knowledge of who 'Shang Qinghua' supposedly is as a character, but i would be super curious to know your estimate of where he actually stands in terms of like, stats/power/influence/skills?

Hm, that’s a really interesting question. 

In terms of fighting prowess, I don’t actually know. He’s a master cultivator and a Peak Lord, so he must be capable of fighting, but we only ever see him come up against extremely OP characters (his martial siblings as a group, Zhuzhi-Lang and Tianlang-Jun, and Linguang-Jun), where his main strategy seems to be to shamelessly convince them that he’s not worth fighting and that he couldn’t possibly cause them any trouble. (Pretty smart move, honestly.) 

I think that if he was given the appropriate resources and time to prepare, he could actually take out almost any character in SVSSS, even the OP ones, by making them underestimate him and orchestrating a trick. But that sort of thing only really has one shot, before he needs an escape route, a foolproof defense, or some form of knock-out dart up his sleeve that could take out a heavy-hitter demon or the like. If I had to make an estimate, I would (generously) probably put him on par in terms of fighting skills and general cultivation skills with SQQ|SY, whose dignity doesn’t allow him to pull the “I’m too pathetic to fight and my cultivation is sooooo weak for a Peak Lord, pity me” schtick. 

(Which seems to annoy the fuck out of Mobei-Jun, actually. Which has led me to believe that Mobei-Jun, by the end of SVSSS, sees straight through Shang Qinghua acting pathetic and doesn’t understand why SQH acts this way. Like, it made sense when you were 17, man, but you’re a Peak Lord now and you still do it and WHY DO PEOPLE BELIEVE YOU?! You’re an extremely dangerous spy! I want to tie your life to mine and your bullshit reflects on my taste!) 

His skills generally seem mostly dependent on his motivation, on whether or not he actually cares to pull something off. Shang Qinghua seems most often motivated, in my opinion, by doing things for other people. I’ve always imagined him to be floating on a wave of apathy before Shen Yuan shows up, going through the motions of his logistics job and his spying for Mobei-Jun. If he cares, he can be capable, but first you have to get him to care. 

I’ve also wondered about the possibility of Shang Qinghua having mental blocks due to his particular traumas, on top of the “oh, I can’t do that, it’s not my place” mindset holding him back. 

In terms of political influence, he probably could have been extremely dangerous, but I think he sacrificed most of his reputation for the “underestimate me” schtick, betraying the sect for MBJ and LBH, and because he didn’t bother to form real relationships with all the powerful people in his life. He can definitely be dangerous from the standpoint of someone in charge of logistics for the most powerful/famous sect in the world, he’s got a lot of leverage there to fuck up the lives of entire cities and sects, but that’s dependent on Yue Qingyuan or one of the other Peak Lords finding out and maybe shutting him down. His influence in the Demon Realm is dependent on MBJ (and LBH). 

Ultimately, I like Shang Qinghua because he’s an unreliable narrator (on multiple levels) and a character with a lot of untapped possibility. I also like him because he ultimately doesn’t want to be dangerous. He complains about not being the protagonist, but he doesn’t actually want the pressure. He just wants to stare at MBJ’s pretty face, hang out with his Cucumber Bro, write dramatic nonsense that never comes true, and get recognition for dabbling with inventing, like, soap and fertilizer, maybe. 

[abraxos-the-phantom]

fr tho, I mean - granted this is all very head canon and therefore it is very possible that it may not have been what happened but man I really can't find that big of a hole in the theory that is convincing enough for me to conclude that it wasn't MF that took care of things while SQQ!SY was away.

But also yeah - I have a thing about how SY and SQH kind of have to be the most badass characters in the series by default. Yes - we can argue that LBH has the protagonist halo, but technically speaking SY has it too by default because he's our protagonist. I kind of crave more godlike!SQH or at least BAMF!SQH fics (there's one nice one that's MoShang where SQH get's legendary items for MBJ out of spite called Trinkets for A King on A03). In this case I believe I had their relationship grow because of the fact that MF was the one to deliver tea and food whenever SY and SQH were brainstorming before disaster LBH's return from the Abyss, so basically MF just took the opportunity to take up SQH company in exchange for guidance (also nobody can fucking tell me that overachiever/tiredBAMF SQH didn't check up on SY's ducklings like seriously, but I imagine he wouldn't be able to do much of anything since he's busy being a quadruple agent on the side) so y e a h

...i do kinda want a write a somebody/mf fic where the biggest fucking villains are SQQ and SQH because they don't want no one messing with their accidental scapegoat problem child that really needs to take a fucking nap. I could put it into the one i'm working on but like...i need...more. Like what happened with the NMJ/MF but...magnified and actually genuinely ridiculous. (I wrote the experience with NMJ/MF in mind with a more realistic outcome because 1) "shovel talk" is actually kind of ridiculous irl and 2) both of them were tired adults who wanted to get it on already so it's in character that they'd shut it down as quickly as possible.

But like- mf preda-ge MF would have no fucking clue what's going on 99% of the time because the man is up to his eyeballs in work and that calls for opportunity

//cracks knuckles// i'll write these damn mf wishfullfilments myself i guess fuckin hell, I've gone and built myself a fucking fleet of ships on accident

Sneak peak: Incident Report: Submitted by Ming Fan – Head Disciple of Qing Jing Peak

The demon sniffed, offended, “well it’s not as if I’d made an effort to make a ruckus in your all aspects of your life Xiao-Fan. I can’t be expected to know everything about you.”

Ming Fan merely eyed Tianlang-jun with equal parts exasperation and annoyance, “you bother me when I am trying to make a dent in work.”

“Yes?”

“You damned- Playboy, work is all aspects of my life! You leave me little time to have anything else!”

@vodkassassin pspspsps