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APLAP (Assigned Pathetic Lifeform at Padawanship)
New padawan Obi-Wan trying to figure out how the FUCK to make his master listen and not abandon him to go running off following "the will of the force" when it hits him. Qui-Gon is perfectly happy stopping and taking care of pathetic life forms, but not Obi-Wan. That's it. He's always been prepared, always been dutiful, strong, self-sufficient.
He's cracked the code. He needs to be more pathetic.
The next time he senses Qui-Gon's about to run off he coordinates a scene of utmost pathetic-ness, that is, he throws himself into the nearest fountain. He trudges up to his master sopping wet, water-logged robes swallowing him, with hair sticking to his face and containing bits of algae from the fountain. He mumbles out an apology for being clumsy before looking up at Qui-Gon with the biggest, most woeful eyes possible to ask if he happened to bring any spare robes (he didn't, Obi-Wan knows this because he is usually the one to pack spare robes for them both). His wet hair is dripping water into his eyes that's beginning to turn them an irritated red, and there's algae sliding down the side of his face, it really is masterful work.
"Oh...I'm sure I'll be able to find something by myself, it's okay Master, I know you had important work to do."
Qui-Gon visibly hesitates. Obi-Wan starts shivering. He turns to walk away. He's stopped by his Master's hand on his shoulder. His Master, who walks back with him, who gets clean clothes from their hosts, who has folded like wet flimsi and even explains his stupid, stupid plan before choosing to hotwire a hoverbike with a passenger seat! Oh, Obi-Wan really has cracked the code!
Afterwards, Obi-Wan stages an increasingly pitiful accident for himself every time his patented 'Qui-Gon Jinn Bullshit' detector goes off. Eventually, his Master stops leaving him behind at all, even giving him funny looks when he turns around and Obi-Wan isn’t next to him. It never fails to make Obi-Wan grin and run to catch up. Sure, his reputation as a perfect padawan is in tatters, alongside his dignity, but it’s a small price to pay for a place at his Master’s side, for him to remember there’s a place for Obi-Wan there.
When the ray shields come up on Naboo, Qui-Gon doesn't charge ahead and leave his padawan behind, he hasn't for years. He waits for Obi-Wan because it feels wrong to do otherwise, his padawan belongs at his side.
Much, much later, when Obi-Wan is drinking to the end of the war with friends, Commander Cress will ask him how he kept General Jinn from running off for entire decade. Obi-Wan laughs, informs him, and resolutely ignores the scene Quinlan is making as the man cackles and pulls up a book to shove at them both, titled Classical Conditioning 101: A guide to subtle psychological manipulation.
#obi-wan: you ABANDON padawan? you leave him behind like lost toy? oh! oh! Jail for Master! Jail for Master for One Thousand Years!!!!#14 yr old obi decides the best way to deal with qui gon is to assign himself the mans poor little meow meow and uknow what it fucking works#accidentally stumbling into emotional vulnerability to have a better relationship#he's got the right answer with the wrong equation but we'll take it#obi wan kenobi#qui gon jinn#padawan obi wan#qui gon and obi wan#star wars
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I want to be a Jedi. The Acolyte - Destiny
#the acolyte#star wars the acolyte#theacolyteedit#star wars#starwarsedit#swedit#master sol#osha aniseya#sol#tvedit#scifiedit#swgifs#starwarsblr#swsource#userkayy#mine#my gifs#idk the way he's immediately drawn to osha#like immediately “she can be my padawan”#he's such a dad and i love their relationship already
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My absolute favorite Dooku headcanon that doesn’t appear in the books or shit but is so real to me is that he genuinely has a strong, involuntary emotional response to Yoda’s notoriously-disgusting swamp cookery.
Like, teenage Dooku doesn’t just have Daddy Issues, he has the full subscription, and that growth spurt had to be insane on him. An extra-hungry awkward too-tall boy who is a bottomless pit of need with a bunch of family-flavored trauma?? And a parent-shaped creature is offering him filling home-cooked food along with validation?! Bring on the swamp soup. I bet he imprints on that shit so hard like a baby vulture.
In the Master and Apprentice book, Dooku’s “thing” with his Padawans is having meals together. Did he get that tradition from Yoda? And Yoda sometimes needed to stay on Coruscant during Dooku’s training, so he was often off banging around the galaxy with Lene Kostana and Sifo-Dyas. You can almost imagine how getting back to the Temple and reconnecting with his Master over a meal would be a thing.
It also kind of vibes delightfully with Yoda in ESB taking one look at gangly-ass Luke and immediately trying to cook for him/feed him. And seeming genuinely confused when he doesn’t like it. Oh, a needy, lost, half-grown human with more Force ability than sense? He has just the recipe!
#I bet this affinity for half-rotten dead weasel stew with moss sauce is even funnier when he's Count#this is a separate post perhaps but you can pry “Dooku doesn't know what's actually fancy” headcanon from my cold dead fingers#and Yoda and Dooku Master Padawan relationship is wholesome as fuck to me <3 just a stone cold loser and his troll dad#uh right up until it wasn't you know with the one big thing that happened#dooku#yoda#star wars headcanons
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Sol’s irrepressible desire for a child overriding all rational thought, sending him into an emotional spiral that leads to death and destruction, only for him to lose the child anyway is a tragedy of the highest order and the kind of compelling story I like to see in general, but especially in Star Wars.
#welcome back louis de pointe du lac#the acolyte#the acolyte spoilers#star wars#i know it’s possible the force was guiding them to be master and padawan but sol jumped the gun instead of thinking things through#and everyone suffered because of it#oh I love him a normal amount#even the fact that he tried to logic and reason his way into taking osha as his padawan but indara saw through him immediately#he got what he wanted but at a terrible cost#and the minute osha knows the truth that relationship will be shattered forever#that’s not even getting to how unnecessary all the bloodshed was because aniseya was going to let osha go with sol!#btw this is not me saying that sol was solely (heh) to blame here#but he clearly wanted that kinship between teacher-student (parent-child)#this also explains why he had a padawan even after osha left the order#sol had good intentions sure but that doesn’t mean he didn’t make mistakes and jump headfirst into a situation without clearly assessing it#this is everything I’ve been wanting from sw for ages now#waiting on tenterhooks for the finale
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"anakin would've never turned to the dark side had qui gon lived." utter. bullshit. not only is this particular hot take an insult to obi-wan it completely robs anakin of his agency, because at the end of the day it was anakin's decision to pledge his loyalty to palpatine and to destroy everything that the people he loved held dear. that's what makes anakin skywalker such a compelling character, and as darth vader a tragic and iconic villian... because he did this to himself.
#star wars#anakin skywalker#obi wan kenobi#qui gon jinn#meta#gzb#dave filoni#jedi order#darth vader#i always take anything feloni has to say about anakin with a pinch of salt since he retconned tcw!anakin to be “likeable”#anakin didn't need to be “likeable” he needed to be cringe and unhinged#hayden christensen understood the assignment#back to qui gon: i'm sorry but#qui gon's 1st padawan (xanatos) turned to the dark side#his 2nd padawan (obi-wan) was made to feel unwanted pretty much the whole time qui gon was his master#including that time qui gon stood before the council and told them *in front of obi-wan* that he wanted to train someone else#and feloni's out here claiming qui gon would've magically cured my boy's unhingedness??? hahaha nO#obi-wan kenobi was and always will be the best fit for anakin#and as for the sith lord-shaped elephant in the room? palpatine had been grooming anakin since he was 9#he would've exploited the cracks in the master/padawan relationship no matter who anakin's master was
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Some master/padawan stuff with Brea and Kep! Are they in a battle? Doing training? You decide! 😋🫶
Taglist♡: @changeling-selfship @crushes-georg @sunstar-of-the-north @tiny-cloud-of-flowers @squips-ship @me-myself-and-my-fos @dearly-beeloved @adoredbyalatus @cherry-bomb-ships @sunflawyer @cassmeeks (hope its ok to tag u!! 🙏)
Pose inspired by this pose from Kanan: The Last Padawan ^^^
#artfarts#self insert#self ship#platonic f/o#familial f/o#star wars#star wars oc#padawan oc#jedi oc#star wars the clone wars#🪐 kepler quinn 🪐#OUGGGH THROWING UP#I LOVE THEM SO MUCHHHHH 😭😭💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖#master/padawan relationships are EVERYTHING#and i mean to draw them a lot more#i really like how this came out with the pose and the coloring and lighting :3#✌️
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hello fellow solmaes! i’ve written a oneshot for this pairing. go check it out <3
Anger sizzled in her veins—a feeling she was all too familiar with—and she let it burn, let it consume her, just as it had for all these years. Anger had allowed her to survive after all. Anger had made her stronger and into the woman and warrior she was today.
Mae pretends to be Osha and goes to Sol's room.
#the acolyte#Star wars#new fic#sol x mae#mae aniseya#sol the jedi#sol the acolyte#mae the acolyte#solmae#maesol#padawan and master relationship implied
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I’m going to be thinking about that parallel between Sol and Osha vs. Anakin and Ahsoka for awhile.
The way both masters care so much about their padawans and wholeheartedly believe they are innocent even though everyone around them is saying otherwise. That intrinsic trust and belief they have in Osha and Ahsoka, respectively, despite the evidence stacked against them. Beautiful. Going to go cry now.
#instant tears to my eyes. god. I love these complex padawan and master relationships so much#the acolyte#the acolyte spoilers#sol and osha#anakin and ahsoka#master sol#parallels
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Now OBVIOUSLY I'm not the only one but I need to know how many others who see this and agree that Kanan and Ezra are father and son 😁 I just can't stop gushing over it 😁😁 I can talk about them forever 😁😁😁
#star wars rebels#kanan jarrus#ezra bridger#master and padawan#Best father-son duo#Love their relationship like no one's business#Can't get enough of these 2#Started with rise of the old masters#Heck at the end of episode they were doing catch lol#Unhealthy obsession? 🤔 eh I don't care I'm obsessed with all of the ghost crew#But of course ezra 💙 and kanan 🤎 are on top
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I said a little bit about this in a comment a few hours ago (hey kenny) and I actually really felt like saying more.
For all that gay people/Tumblr people/AO3 peope/waves hand are really, really into found family they are actually pretty allergic to conceptualizing familial relationships outside of nuclear family roles.
I see a billion posts on Tumblr about how friendships can be just as important as romantic relationships, if not more, but nobody ever actually writes the friendship as important as a romantic relationship. Or friendships are interpreted as romantic, or friendships are sidelined for the romantic relationship. It's always a weird disparity between what people say are important and people actually find important for me.
So when we do step out of romantic relationship and into gen relationships, we typically enter the trope world of #foundfamily. But the same kind of flattening of characters for the sake of shoving them into yaoi ghost archetypes honestly also really happens with family relationships.
There is always a dad. There's always a mom. There's always siblings (frequently the canon female love interest). Maybe an uncle? Ex-wife if we are feeling sexy that day.
I really rarely see people interested in #foundfamily relationships outside of those boxes. It is overwhelmingly, entirely American-centric. There's no recognition of the unbelievable diversity and breadth of human relationships, or the very many ways there are to love somebody. In fanfic, if there's a much older male character emotional close to younger characters, he's dad mode. And the relationship then follows the character and story beats of the father-child relationship intended to draw out those fuzzy family feelings. Damn, I read found family stuff to get away from the intense claustrophobia of the fandom's favorite ship, I'm not here to get family yaoi ghosted here too.
I think you can create a very unique and engaging relationship if you're wiling to engage with the unknown and uncomfortable. Make a path without the paint by numbers story beats and character arcs. Please stop letting tropes rule your writing instead of construct it.
Write stories about love. Write relationships about loving each other. Just start from there, and don't worry about anything else. Create a relationship that is its own. Let it breathe. It can stand on its own two feet. It'll be a richer relationship and a richer story.
#nothing in particular is sparking this it's just on my mind.#my writing#i can give a shitton of examples but I don't want to specify this too hard#didn't know i could get aro spectrum on main about gen fic but im capable of many beautiful things#the way that absolutely everybody does this makes a lot of star wars and batman fic extremely boring#oh and like im not even going into how turning relationships romantic can often really flatten a character and a relationship#that's obvious and we know.#also sw fandom got VERY WEIRD and very western centric to the point of being iffy#about how acknowledging a master&padawan as father&son is 'good end' and desirable#and that a master who will not/can not do that is abusive and obi-wan should be removed to a more traditional family enviornment w/mandos#weird. i read a lot of babywan. ppl are still freaks about quigon. anyway
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thinking about how for like the first two years of obi wans apprenticeship qui gon did not give a fuck what obi wan did (or even really what happened to him) before snapping out of it and realizing he was actually very much responsible for this child and course corrected into being a helicopter parent and how obi wan always read this as mistrust instead of concern and guilt.
#Star wars#qui gon jinn#obi wan kenobi#The disaster linages complicated relationship#Neglect#Trauma#Like qui gon was deeply traumatized individual#And I think he just could not deal with being responsible for another child#Like I'm pretty sure obi wan would do something and qui gon would be having literal flashbacks of xantos#Which is not an excuse for obi wan being left to fend for himself but#And that lackluster care ran deep man like obi wan regularly ended up on a completely different planet during those early missions#But to that 13 year old baby wan it felt like trust#So when qui gon started suddenly giving a shit and putting rules in place it felt like mistrust#It's a pretty common reaction to see in kids when their parents who hadn't been parenting get it together#Qui gon having so much guilt being a helicopter tired dad#Wrestling his feral padawan into one of those kid leashes#Qui gon: through gritted teeth: its the will of the force Padawan stay fucking still I mean it I swear to all the gods#Obi wan: 15 and feral and war veteran twice over embressed to the point of finding this humiliating:#Master hates me? Mater distrusts me?? He thinks I need to be held on to like I'm fucking 7 years old when will I ever be good enough for hi
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Hot take:
The obsession some people have with the Jedi only taking on one apprentice at a time and wanting them to change their ways (that have worked without issue for thousands of years) to take on multiple apprentices at a time is yet another way people try to force the Jedi into the western nuclear family unit
#wooloo-writes#wooloo writes#star wars#sw#jedi#pro jedi#in defense of the jedi#jedi padawan#a jedi master and padawan is a mentor-student relationship#it's not meant to be a nuclear family structure#a master and padawan can be parent-child#but it can also be a sibling relationship#a aunt/uncle-niece/nephew relationship#a friendship#but it is first and foremost a student teacher relationship
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The amount of people complaining that the Acolyte made the Jedi bad guys is really funny cause like, the Jedi were bad guys literally since the prequels. They learned that their chosen one had arrived at their doorstep and decided this was the one child they didn't want around. When that didn't work, they made his life a constant struggle. They force all their members to forgo all relationships and prevented him from going to Tatooine for years. Despite him fitting the criteria and sacrificing everything for them, they denied him the rank of master. They falsely prosecuted Ahsoka for treason and when Anakin found the real culprit, they avoided blame because "the Force works in mysterious ways". They train children in battle and weaponry, even doing so before they had known about the return of the Sith.
As for the "they made the Jedi child lurers", they canonically track down force-sensitive children and persuade their parents to give them over without ever disclosing they will never see their child again and then give that child the same life mentioned above. They claimed Anakin was "too old" to be a youngling despite him being 9 at the time, meaning they indoctrinate kids at *ideally* younger than double digits. Like the Jedi haven't been saints for ages.
#anakin was so lonely he developed a sibling relationship with his padawan and master and was destroyed when he had to let one of those go#i mean really clone wars is nothing but evidence of the Jedi being massive jackoffs#anakin skywalker#star wars anakin#ashoka tano#jedi#jedi temple#star wars
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[deep breath] not me suddenly getting hit by tcw feelings in this year 2024 but like. truly ough i love likening ahsoka and anakin and obi-wan's entire dynamic as tragic siblings because that's the closest approximation we have to it but also just like. there's tragic siblings because they're the ones you're supposed to joke with and play with and look up to when it seems like everything is falling apart.
and then there's the whole tragic student-teacher element to all of it and maybe it's just like. i look up to you i owe you so much i know you've only ever tried and wanted to make me better i know you saw something in me worth cultivating and keeping you exasperate me sometimes because why the hell do i need to know this kind of stuff why the hell are you nitpicking this kind of stuff why do you care so much about why i succeed or not you're not my parent and i don't want you to be my parent but also you helped me learn more about myself and the world than i've ever realized. can i ask for your opinion about this later. can i still ask you for help on this problem.
and then the whole flip side of that is like. you were someone who mentored me and taught me and now you're a monster i barely know or recognize and how could you do this how could you say that how could you hurt me like this i know you think you're doing the right thing and you're so much older and wiser and i'm still waiting at the door like a little kid but also i don't think being taught lessons is meant to feel like this and i can't tell if i'm still acting childish or if maybe, more horrifyingly, everyone who warned me about you was right and you really are a monster and you've taught me how to be a monster and what do i do now and i guess i just have to grapple with the fact that you molded me and shaped me and if you broke off one of my arms while doing that, then who am i to tell
#caroline talks#tcw#listen to me yes i love u sibling relationships yes i love u sibling relationships#and of course siblings can mentor and teach their siblings too#but i also think about like. okay if we also remember the whole master-padawan dynamic too.#it's the whole. yeah that's literally your mentor who's going to guide you and make sure you're going to survive out there.#anyways. i love u screwed up siblings and tragic siblings#and kind of related to that. i love u screwed up mentorships.#like. where's that one suits quote.#the one that's like 'he's my mentor. it's a difficult relationship to explain'#and it's just like. yup! sure can! your mentor can be like your family. they can be family at some point#but also it's like. 'well they started off as my teacher. they started off as my mentor. to guide me and help me grow'#and it's just like. OUGh.
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The first chapter (prologue) of my next story is up on AO3. This is a slow-burn Obi-Wan/Reader romance with angst and eventual smut. Please read the tags on AO3 for content warnings!
Summary:
When your Master dies in combat, Obi-Wan Kenobi is appointed to complete your Jedi training. Master Kenobi, revered for his grace and skill, you’d grown up with the stories of his bravery. The battles he’d won, the lives he’d saved. He was a God in your eyes. A hero. But to him, you were nothing more than a Padawan.
It hurts more than you'll ever admit.
#master & padawan relationships#teacher-student relationship#padawan!reader#Reader is Obi-Wan Kenobi's Padawan#obi-wan x reader#obi-wan x reader smut#star wars smut#star wars fanfiction#clone wars fanfiction#obi-wan kenobi x reader#obi-wan kenobi smut#obi-wan kenobi slow burn
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This is one of my favorite snippets from foolproof, I love the h/c and I can so easily picture anakin being frantic for obi-wan to be okay, I would love some commentary if you have any - “Obi-Wan, Obi-Wan,” the man says, and that isn’t right. The man never knew his name. “Obi-Wan, shh, you’re here, I’m here. We’re at the Temple, sweetling. You’re safe. I’m here.” A mechno hand presses Obi-Wan’s head to a firm and sweaty chest, and Obi-Wan is breathing in the scent before he can stop himself.
(from this dvd commentary ask game three months ago im sorry, but basically people sent me passages from my fics for me to give commentary on like what i wanted the passage to do, what the moment means for the fic, what's going on in the characters' heads, why i wrote it, etc etc)
this is from the third chapter of foolproof, foolhardy, "work in a casual touch": what a great choice for a passage because I really love how this chapter ends with obi-wan trying very hard to make anakin see him as a man and not the youngling he once was or just a friend of his padawan’s, only for him to suffer through a pretty serious flashback—it’s something that comes up again and again in this fic, for master Skywalker and padawan Kenobi. They’re very much intertwined through their past and they can’t just ignore it or not address it. It keeps coming back up.
and I think in this case, with this flashback, it’s a trauma that binds them together. Obi-Wan almost died on Zygerria and Anakin saved him - Anakin killed many many people to save him, probably tossed the entire mission plan out the window the second he found out obi-wan was in trouble, has a lot of dark emotions and blood on his hands from this moment in particular….but in the aftermath of it, when they’re flying back to the Temple, obi-wan seeks anakin out for comfort.
obi-wan seeking anakin out and feeling safe around him is such a big thing for anakin, from the time they first met to every time after. Over and over again, obi-wan takes comfort in anakin when anakin assumes he is too dark and too frightening for anyone to find comfort in.
But with Obi-Wan, in this scene specifically, because of all of their thorny past, anakin doesn’t question if he can help a triggered and hurting obi-wan. He just puts him against his chest and tells him he’s here and nothing bad is going to happen to him because Anakin is with him and Anakin would never allow anything bad to happen to obi-wan. He’s saying both “you’re here at the temple so you’re safe” AND “you’re safe because I’m here.”
#asks#Stacy’s mom au#obikin#master anakin has so many fun obi-wan emotions#obi-wan is like I’m very insecure about our relationship because we don’t have a relationship really but also I’m in love with him#and also I want him to see me as a man and not a weak little padawan#meanwhile anakin is like yeah he made me believe in my#own humanity again and if anything happened to hurt him I would probably commit another massacre#also he’s everything. my almost padawan. a little seductress. an angel. something delicate and perfect and I want to fuck him through a wal
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