#marcille the woman that you are
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Marcille: *highly values her hair, changes her hair style regularly, stresses the importance of hair to magic, which directly equates to her own self worth as a magic user*
Also Marcille: *chops off a whole section of her hair without a second thought to save one of her friends, one who she doesn't even get along with much*
Me, lying: oh I am completely normal about this
#marcille donato#marcille dungeon meshi#marcille the woman that you are#i love her so much she is the most ride or die person around#dungeon meshi#delicious in dungeon#dunmeshi#dunmesh spoilers#marcille dunmeshi#this one is indirect but:#senshi#senshi dungeon meshi
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so you wouldn't use dark magic to bring falin? would you even touch her remains, shuro? is there a limit where you'd go for her? not eating or sleeping is not a sign of devotion, risking everything you have, every morality, every law without a second thought THAT'S WHAT IT MEANS TO BE DEVOTED
#HE DONT GET IT WHERE A WOMANS LOVE CAN GO#THATS WHY SHE GETS THE GIRL!!#BE BETTER#YOU FOOL#dungeon meshi#dunmeshi#marcille donato#farcille#falin touden
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man, you know, nobody asked me, but I have such conflicting opinions on some of the fat falin art, where on one hand: it's always nice to see A Fat Body in fanart anywhere + it's being done in positive ways, for funsies and on the other hand, there is something so familiar about how you are automatically The Fat One if you are a woman simply standing next to a more petite woman, bc I've had a 0% hitrate in seeing people change Marcille's body type and keep Falin's, or change both of them. it's just Falin
#it gives me a negative feeling that I seldom/never get from seeing fat art which is rare#like she's not fat out of thin air For Fun And No Other Reason and she's not fat bc of context#(out of thin air being like just picking a character you like and changing their design just cuz. Kabru maybe.)#(and Because Of Context being the way ppl draw fat Usagi from sailor moon. which i have been meaning to do btw)#but rather she's fat just bc to be Not the thinnest woman in the room is to be fat. like it happens specifically by scale#because marcille is so much physically smaller and petite and falin is bigger in the ways that a Human Woman is bigger#than an elf woman#and it's funny bc it's something i see all the time already#people also really don't seem to have an interest in making marcille butch in fanart in a way#that is sort of sad for me bc it's like ah well she's the thin small one so of course she gets to be feminine#if you're physically bigger then of course you get to be masc of course of course of course...#i also love good butch art esp fat butch stuff but this is about the phenomenon where if you're with#a thinner shorter woman then that means you're the butch now which is a place I have been to#and I did not like it there#I think part of why That sticks it to me is bc marcille has such a Butch Girlfriend personality and falin acts so demure LMAO#but she's slightly bigger so the writing is on the wall#sergle.txt#Godspeed to you if you choose to read these thoughts in bad faith bc I can't give you more clarifying statements if I try#like I said. conflicting feelings#i don't know if anyone else has similar thoughts it May Just Be Me#I don't think ppl think about this stuff when they make their fan redesigns but it gives me a certain feeling
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for the last couple days I've been thinking about a Dungeon Meshi AU with the girl version of Laios from the magic mirror bonus page. Like, let's say she got married at 16, and ten years and two kids later she's escorting her youngest to magic school and planning to visit with Falin for a couple days before heading home. She finds out Falin and Marcille (I can't decide if everybody should be gender-swapped or only Laios. If Falin is The Boy he'd probably be expected to become village chief despite having creepy ghost magic, but maybe Laios's husband turned out to be a good leader so there's an unspoken "if Falin doesn't come back would that really be so bad?" among the villagers. But if Falin and Marcille are still girls that could lead to some interesting Deconstructing Gender Norms stuff. I just don't know!) have been planning to go to The Island and study a real dungeon, and instantly flips from quiet and demure (masking HARD) to excited and full of energy, and Marcille asks why Laios doesn't just come along. It'll only be a few months, both kids are in boarding schools, won't her husband understand?
The answer to that is no, but Laios has been dreading going back home for exactly the reason that it'll just be her and her husband now, no more kids as a buffer. She'll have nothing to do but take care of the house and be a Good Wife. Her husband isn't a bad person, but he's never understood her and never bothered to try, he just gets frustrated that she can't remember their guests' names, that she only wants to talk about "weird" things, that she cares more about her letters from Falin than she does taking care of her appearance.
Laios lets just enough of this slip that Marcille misunderstands and thinks her husband is a brute, and Falin has always known that being a housewife didn't suit Laios at all, so neither of them argue when Laios decides to abandon her marriage with only a brief letter back home.
On the trip Laios starts to learn magic, but she turns out to take to combat even better. Her encyclopedic (literally, it all comes from encyclopedias) knowledge of monster anatomy means she'll have the best chance out of the three of them at physically fighting things off if they can't find a trustworthy fighter to hire. But overall she's responsible for organizing their supplies and planning the expeditions. Having experience running a household comes in handy!
Of course, the three of them are pretty naive, and they run through Marcille's savings faster than expected, but they're all so interested in the dungeon that they're willing to stick out the tough times. Laios is so happy to finally be able to Be Herself around people that she starts talking about cooking and eating monsters without realizing that's a step too far for most folks. Falin is, of course, completely supportive, but Marcille and Namari shut it down most of the time. (I'm not sure where Shuro is or if he should be gender-swapped as well. Chilchuck wouldn't join the party until they've become successful enough to pay his rates. If he's gender-swapped this is her way of dealing with an empty nest.) However one day Senshi happens to overhear Laois talking about it while they pass each other and they become fast friends. Marcille isn't sure if s/he wants Laios's obsession with monsters-as-food to continue, but can't resist encouraging this because forbidden love affairs are peak romance. But no they're genuinely just friends and the thought never crosses either of their minds.
Marcille has no idea Laios has actually already had a couple of extramaritals with orc men.
(that's all I got so far!)
#I'm not sure about Kabru either. should he be a man and try to flirt with Laios and be baffled when it sails over her head?#or a woman and try to initiate a Gal Pals relationship with Laios which ALSO sails over her head#at least until Kabru learns about the monster thing and expresses interest then ohhhh no you're stuck with her now Kabru what have you done#dungeon meshi#delicious in dungeon#dungeon meshi au#genderswap au#laios touden#falin touden#marcille donato
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"why couldn't shuro have just been honest about what he felt with laios and falin it's not that hard" are you. are you White
#dungeon meshi#shuro#toshiro nakamoto#look you can hate him for other things but this is very clearly a case of cultures (& personalities influenced by these cultures) clashing#shuro is japanese/east asian-coded and laios is european white boy#i am not japanese but i also come from a collectivistic society#pakikisama is a filipino value both prized and abhorred#it relies heavily on being able to read social cues and prior knowledge of societal norms#shuro being from a different country/culture is important to his character#his repressed nature is meant to contrast with laios' open one like that's the point#they both had similar upbringings but different coping mechanisms#shuro explicitly admits that he's jealous of laios being able to live life sincerely#anyway the point is they were operating on different expectations entirely and neither had healthy enough communication skills#to hash things out before they got too bad#re his attraction to falin i personally believe he unfortunately mpdg-ed her#she represented something new & different. a fresh drink of water for his parched repressed self#alas not meant to be#i'll be honest the way ryoko kui handles both fantasy & regular racism in dm is more miss than hit for me#i don't doubt that a lot of the shuro hate is based off of marcille's pov of him#marcille famously racist 😭#characters' racist views don't often get (too) challenged#practically everyone is casually racist at some point#anyway. again if you're gonna hate shuro at least hate him for being complicit in human trafficking & slavery#he couldn't help falling for the wrong woman goddamn 😭#calemonsito notes#edit: upon further reflection i take back what i said about toshiro mpdg-ing falin!#i'm sorry toshiro 😭
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I think Marcille's reactions to Falin presenting more masculine are really interesting when you look at them through a lens of elven concepts of gender and we shouldn't have to ignore them in farcille and Butch Falin readings.
#dungeon meshi#farcille#this was originally gonna be a longer post#but basically marcille generally reads as someone very much struggling to come to terms with her attraction to women#and then you add on the layer of elves on the whole skewing towards feminine presentation#like otta being the butchest a girl can be before the elves get scared#and marcille finding laios shockingly masculine on first meeting#i wonder if that doesn't add on an extra layer of challenging her idea of what a woman can even BE#let alone a woman she's attracted to#i'm saying marcille has a lot of hurdles to contend with regarding how she sees falin and how it affects her attraction towards her#i think it's compelling
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so marcille's succubus totally looked like that general from daltian clan right
#eliot posts#dunme#dungeon meshi#delicious in dungeon#dm spoilers#marcille donato#i lean towards the general being a woman but marcille might ALSO be bi unrelated to that#i think option 2 is the least likely bc i think the succubi can see deeper than that? but it's a take i've seen others say#(does compulsory heterosexuality even exist in the culture marcille is from? it seems to exist where laios and falin are from but idk)#i really wanna know about how queer ppl are treated in this show's universe overall#like there's no christianity presumably so no ''being gay sends you to hell'' BUT there is the expectation to get married and have children#the only explicitly stated gay person we see is otta but characters are too distracted by the halffoot thing to comment on the gay thing
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I’ve been seeing a lot of people shit on straight couples in shipping and in general as a "joke" lately, particularly in the Dungeon Meshi fandom. Friendly reminder that, besides the evil straights, when you mock or put down straight couples for being straight/"not queer enough", you also make bi and pan people, and trans and ace people who experience hetero attraction feel unwelcome and lesser. Negativity hurts, love is love, happy valentine’s!
#It’s not even unironic or subtle anymore. Very uncomfy ngl#I know which side of the ace discourse y’all would be on and I do not like it#A lot of people reading will have the gut instinct of “shut up straight 🙄” and if that’s you I want you to pause and think about that#Yes I understand the historical sociopolitical reasons. Can we not rise above and not be exclusionists#When did queerness start being a performance needed to belong here. When did it become synonym for morality of a ship.#Not even gonna put this post in general tags bc I’m scared but if I get backlash my point will only be made tbh. What about this is wrong#Will being an ace heteroflexible-demiromantic queer woman save me some heat? Doubtful and that’s the sad thing isn’t it#Never straight enough for the straights never gay enough for the gays.#Bi marcille and ace laios laimar <3 Not that they care tho#I love being a multishipper. Laicion and farcille and marchil and laimar and cittadol and labru having a tea party in my mind and thriving#Is it not enough to be happy and uplifting
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Marcille scolding Senshi for replanting and messing with the golems without permission since it’s illegal in hindsight is so funny
Girl you’re gonna violate so many laws your degree is literally in the ancient art of illegal magic
#jelly tarts#marcille donato#i love her so much marcille the woman that you are#Marcille: i can excuse using ancient magic to alter life itself but i draw the line at an unauthorized golem garden#Chilchuck: you can excuse WHAT#dungeon meshi
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I will be truthful about my feelings I think dunmeshi fans are a little delusional about the canon status of farcille. If it's reaching a point where you talk about some random Japanese man as being pesky and repulsive for "falling for a lesbian" and treat him like the irl instance of guys pursuing open lesbians... its gone much too far.
#i see the subtext. However.#i just dont think its a good look to excuse hating a japanese man for liking a white woman because#the collective lesbianism headcanon somehow evolved into “if you even think to put falin and marcille near men ill block you”#which feels distasteful in this instance omg. ive seen people tag toshiro posts with “stay away from her”#ok i guess👍🏻😅
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the eyes are the window to one’s soul
#sketch of marcille i did and got really into#dunmesh spoilers#dungeon meshi#dungeon meshi spoilers#delicious in dungeon#tw partial nudity#marcille donato#marcille dungeon meshi#cw partial nudity#dont u love it when the lines of right and wrong blur so intensely to you because you need the save the woman you love??? daily occurence
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the way some people speak about toshiro is disgusting. egregious ableism and racism aside yall don't even bother to call him toshiro rather than shuro like damn bitch ticking all da damn boxes
#for a show about humanity and the complexity of companionship#yall really don't get it#you can sympathize with laios more due to personal experience while also recognizing toshiro had his own merit#like you do realise toshiro's experience isn't out of no where#a lot of autistic poc struggle with the same things he does because we are held to much higher standards#to speak up is a dishonor. to be vulnerable is a dishonor. to be assertive is a dishonor#i haven't finished dunmeshi but like#yall know toshiro and laois don't even have deep seeted beef with each other after.#i think toshiro even further helps laois later on#an argument or discord between two people isn't the end of a friendship and i dont think yall realise that#and the way you guys treat toshiros relationship with falin is also disgusting#yes marcille knows falin better and would have more trust in their relationship/more love but toshiro does#genuinely care for her even if in a misguided manner. his proposal was meant to highlight his cultures#stigmatization around pre marital courting and affection#he even took it like a champ bro#god forbid a man be in love with the kindest woman he's ever met
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just got jumpscared by my own post on twitter sgfsfwfgcrfgbv
#it was the jecki x male reader headcanons (leaves you for a woman) one because of course#lesbian jecki real#btw the original one was an ace attorney i think#and the one i was specifically referencing was marcille dungeonmeshi#wasn't an original joke of mine lol#still a good one
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people who characterize marcille as ‘oh that lesbian elf motivated so much by how she wants to bang her s/o’ literally don’t get it. a marcille who KNOWS shes a lesbian would be on a whole ‘nother level of “annoying about it.” insert joke about gay being a characters only trait level annoying. she still writes off her gay shit as gender envy, protectiveness, or solidarity. once she realizes , its all over. shes going to be getting into harmful intra/ter-community discourse on twitter before collapsing into a years-long disillusionment wreckage as all her online buddies either go entirely transmisogynistic or end up overcorrecting and becoming a different kinda queerscourse radical. she even takes the word ‘lesbian’ out of all her urls :-(. not because she isn’t one or its bad but bc its a painful reminder of a sense of pride that now exists only in memory. and eventually she changes it to FALINSC-💥
#these first notes were written before the massive tangent about the twitter lesbian torture tube:#this also applies if you headcanon her as bi & preferentially women-leaning#less so if still bi but not? but still there#anyways i’m a diehard lesbianmarciller but like not in a ‘oh the other interpretations suck shit’ wy#way#<- i say to myself trying to not turn into my own cartoonish self-charicature lmao#i mean straight marcille is. a choice. but even THAT isn’t. STRICTLY. Anti-canon. or anything. (why though….)#thats supposed to say ‘even’#EVEN straight marcie is a choice!#anyways my true enemies are people who hc falin as trans and marcie as cis. what the fuck. that sucks and i hate it.#if only one of them can be trans its obviously marcille do you honestly think falin would choose to be a woman and not nonbinary like her br#yknow what not even continuing that sentence it made me feel evil#just going along with the tag character limit there#‘his pronouns are they/them also you choose to be trans!!’ ass shit#reeling a bit from the debate (…. or rather my cool and good moms sad and bad retelling of it)#….the tangent about marcille get computer wasnt here originally. nor the joke about me projecting a chunk of personal shit on there#(which isn’t even really a statement to the cross-applicability -i’m more of a falin tgirl spiritually speaking - i just saw a shitton of#younger lesbians getting involved with a pretty horrendous cycle over the years so it ending up hiw MY experiences of those years went m’sel#self is fairly natural. mostly i just realized jaded 100something marcille would totally go for my url#more realistically marcie gets kicked out of her twitter sphere for having a contrapoints moment regarding her presentation and pronouns lol#i’m just saying words at this point
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making this its own post bc i dont wanna bother the op of that post but oh my gosh. the way falin is treated vs the way laios is treated despite them having similar personality traits/the same kind of autism, all because laios presents more masculine and is much more energetic than her sister, and falin is much more softspoken than laios is
#eden mrraps.#like. they are both weird as shit and this is not a bad thing. they both are very passionate and kind#and both are very interested in 'weird' things. but the way shuro sees falin's interest in bugs as fascinating and her honesty and bluntnes#as cute whilst seeing laios's interest in monsters as annoying and her bluntness and honesty as her being bothersome and annoying#the way shuro distains laios but praises falin for the same exact traits all because falin's a cute girl he likes#and this is literally reflective in other characters!! laios is constantly regarded as weird or too blunt in comparison to very similar#characters like marcille. the manga does a GREAT job at showing how laios is mistreated whilst the other woman around her are infantilized#for showing the exact same traits and shows that hey!!! this is not good!! these characters are weird for having double standards!!!!#its even more insane when you bring laios being trans into the equation bc 💥 ooooh my gosh. girl thjis comic contains multitudes#btw if you ever see me use she/her for laios that is not a mistype. laios is a trans woman
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Immaru and Eris talking about how when you wish someone back to life they come back wrong:
Mara next season:
#Destiny 2#Mara Sov#Sjur Eido#rule of threes baby!!!#one more crazy woman resurrecting her dead girlfriend to add to my collection#Mara 🤝 Marcille 🤝 Liara#I promise I'm so so so normal and logical about this stuff but I have snapped#she's coming back it's about the bow it's about verglas recurve#are you listening to me it's about the bow!!!! the bow!!
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