#macarios and adele

[kikaruuni]

Fate Grand Order material X [Digital]part 10 FINAL

[empty-dream]

To whose who live in the Lostbelt, and then—

[aestheticitii]

the mystery of olympus' CE is so fun because at first, i was like "oh, maybe they team up with kirsch" and then i was like "oh, no, guda just wishes that were the case since kirsch would complete the group", and the important thing to note is that i thought they actually had the party and that it was europa making them dinner

then musashi died and somehow i didn't make the connection that it's basically everyone they lost in the lostbelt because again, i thought it was referencing europa's party

so when the final node of the last chapter hit me in the back of the head with a resounding yes but actually no, i cried

as if atlantis wasn't enough

[a-particular-quetzalcoatl]

Hands up for the real best siblings of Olympus

[toasterofthedeep]

The ending parts of lost belts make me so sad like I wish we could take them with us.

[fangirl39]

It was obvious the twins were going to die since the moment we met them, but I wish we could've given them a hug before leaving the Olympus lostbelt.

[mako-neexu]

THIS ART SO VILE TO MY HEART now i want exit 8 game of fgo. guda encounters every single one of the people they met in the lostbelts as well as da vinci and especially in the final loop, they see a certain doctor himself.

but there are words that they see on a sign as soon as they are at "exit 8"

"Don't overlook any anomalies." "If you find anomalies,turn around immediately." "If you don't find anomalies, do not turn back."

can you? can you turn your back on all the people you murdered? go left, go right. go straight. you see patxi waiting for you at the end of the hallway. you turn back. there is mash. you feel relief. you go back. go left go right go straight ahed. you see the crypters in casual clothes coming home from a visit to an amusement park. you see macarios and adele going home from extracurriculars. you see a father and daughter along with a dog walking home. they greet you and invite you into their home. their names. asha. ajay. vihan. go back. turn back. oh. mors. a flood. of curses. of cernunnos' hands. go back go back. turn back. you see kadoc telling you to go forwards the coast is clear for now. he disappears. you follow his advice. you move forward again. again. no signs of anomalies for the past minute, hour, day, month, year, decade. you dont stop running forward. but your legs give out on you. how long will this last? how long will this take? its too hard but they still need you. as long as they need you, you can never rest. you can never rest. you can never be dead unless there is someone who still needs you. unless there can someone be saved. youare exhausted but even so. oh. even so. at the end of the hallway, a woman greets you. her smile familiar. her greeting and cheer as warm as her. red, blue, brown, with a staff and a gauntlet- you turn back. no anomalies. you forge on ahead and

you. see. him.

oh. he is smiling at you softly. just like he did as he cupped your cheek. after he raised his hands for the rings to end the fight.

"Sorry, but you might have to turn back for a bit." His sheepish smile is accompanied with a shy rub of his nape. "After this, there are stairs you can take to escape. Take care, alright?"

....he didnt even try to tempt you to go forward with him. oh. oh.

there is. something in your eyes. oh you dont know how to feel or even say. but you nod and turn around. every inch of your muscles screaming at you for betrayal and when you wake up. you are safe. you are alive. you are back at chaldea

[grailfinders]

Grailfinders Viewers' Choice #35

a.k.a. "oh my goodness we forgot to put a new poll immediately after releasing the last one" edition! consider it an impromptu vacation, I guess!

anyways,

[writer-and-artist27]

Hello! Can you rank the lostbelts from best to worst? I thought your interpretations of the lostbelts were interesting so I want to know!

(･o･)

Well. Wasn't expecting this ask with the upcoming dawn of LB7 on FGO NA. Thank you for the interest, Anon!

If you are referring to the canon/original versions of the Lostbelts then, though, Anon, please strap in and get ready for a long list. Opinionated, at that. So be forewarned, this is my opinion, and thus I am entitled to it.

Starting from my personal favorite, then going down to end at what I feel is absolute dogshit.

Only excluding LB7 at the moment because of it not being out in NA at the time of this post (12/3/2024) and I have some negative bias already in how it took some of my closest friends out of FGO permanently with its white-washing and writing. Not happy about that.

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Avalon le Fae/Lostbelt 6. I loved every bit of it, even the frustrating parts with all the faeries, and writing for it was great.

Heian-kyo/Lostbelt 5.5. For a stealth sequel to Shimosa, Kintoki, Sei, Katou Danzo, Murasaki, and Raikou just stole the show for me. Beating Douman was amazing too.

Yugakshetra/Lostbelt 4. Pepe, Rama, Karna, and Jinako all carried. Pepe and Rama especially.

Imaginary Scramble/Lostbelt 4.5, even if not officially in title. For an event meant to properly give spotlight to Nemo and Van Gogh - I loved all of it. Kinda wish it was its own Lostbelt-event and not an interlude sort of thing.

Traum/Lostbelt 6.5. Only because of Charlemagne, Holmes, Astolfo, Salome, and so many others keeping the story up. Ruler Moriarty was what brought it down so low for me.

Ooku/Lostbelt 3.5. I still appreciate the event a lot for how it introduced me to Kama and let me get to know some of my closest friends better, but Parvati and others could've been covered better.

Atlantis/Lostbelt 5.1. The Neo Argonauts and Drake were the only things keeping me invested. Wodime made me want to castrate him. And we all know how that turned out in Passing Days.

Anastasia/Lostbelt 1. It's only here and not lower because of Billy, Beowulf, Patxi, and Atalante. Oh, and beating Kadoc's face in. I wanted to punch him in the nose and then some.

Olympus/Lostbelt 5.2. Adele and Macarios, as well as Musashi were the only characters I cared for. The Greek Gods just made me sad, and I wrote Musashi's entire arc the way I did in Passing Days just from being so angry at her Heroic Sacrifice to Chaos. Also. I wanted to kill Wodime. HARD. Beryl just beat me to it. Hell, I'm tearing up from frustration just remembering it and the fans who tried to get into my review box to try and change my opinion on him.

SIN/Lostbelt 3. Didn't really like this one that much outside of Lan Ling, the Chaldean field team in Mordred, Nezha, and Spartacus (really wasn't expecting to like him, but here we are), and I found Hinako/Yu Mei-ren very detestable, to be honest. Only summoned her back in my Chaldea because her husband visited first.

Götterdämmerung/Lostbelt 2. The only thing saving this Lostbelt from being at the total bottom of the barrel is Sigurd, Brynhildr, Skadi, Sitonai/Illya, Gerda, and Napoleon. Otherwise, this was just Ophelia's giant Otome Game and I was not living for it. This is why I haven't written a chapter for it yet. She's more wishy-washy than Charlie Brown, and I grew up with the kid.

Tunguska Sanctuary. I hated every bit of it. Nikitch and Taigong and Habetrot (along with Mash, as a given) were the only things keeping me from throwing my phone away in anger at Koyanskaya, and when U-Olga showed up in the ending, I was playing on New Year's Eve and had to get hugged by two friends and my partner to help calm down. Because the Decisive Battle Uniform was just a band-aid to my frustration with Nasu pulling yet another angst/bitter whip on an already loaded arc I wasn't happy with when Koyanskaya essentially got off scot free. It is why I only briefly touched on it in Passing Days proper, because there, she's on a nuke of death to who knows where. THAT'S IT.

...ಠ▃ಠ

Huff.

Okay. To bed with me now. Because ending on the worst bit made my nose run.

To Anon - I hope this sufficiently answers your question otherwise.

[animegirlsakurablr]

Shenanigans in the Grand Order, part 510

And I hope it's a damn good bonus, too.

Oh, we picked up Kadoc? (Nope, Kirei dropped him off)

At least feed him first before you do that!

*groans* What in every gods names did you wake me up for?

... Yeah, easier said than done.

Finally, I'm free from the boss rush chapter that is Olympus.

I'll be honest, it felt boring and a bit of a slog to go through. Between Nasu lore-dumping during parts to the point where I felt tempted to fast forward and Sakurai's hit-or-miss writing (leaning more towards "miss" during this chapter), it's underwhelming compared to not only Atlantis, but the previous Lostbelt as well. Don't get me wrong, there are good and neat parts in this, but they felt few and far between.

Also, get your torches and pitchforks ready, because I'm going to admit it - I felt nothing (heh) when Musashi sacrificed herself to seal Chaos away. Yes, I did say that after I was done with Shimousa I understood why people like her, but here's the catch for me - I don't really like her post Shimousa, since she comes off more as a parody of herself, at least to me.

It also didn't help that Chaos themself was a shark the size of a great white that well and truly jumped far. "Oh no, Chaos is much too powerful for any of us to handle! And even if we had the power, they're too far away for us to deal with! What ever shall we do?!?!?!?!?1?!" Just, ugh. That was too much. The shark jumped way too far for me to take it seriously or to even barely enjoy the story. And then it was repeated shortly afterward with U-Olga, much in the same way.

And besides, Musashi isn't going to be permanently down, she's already appearing in another Fate series (or at least, I assume that's Musashi for Samurai Remnant).

Is there anything that I enjoyed? Yeah. I really like the relationship that Caenis and Kirschtaria have once he gets back to him, and how much trust Kirschtaria has for him. The Olympus twins (Macarios and Adele) are nice foils to the Saturday morning cartoon-esque Dioscuri. Europa is, in my opinion, a better "I am a motherly character written by Sakurai" than Demeter and especially Skadi (Europa actually interacts with some people who came from the Lostbelt! And she doesn't like how the humans are treated instead of being all 'I had no choice, oh woe is me'!).

Also, since the idol event started and ended before I finished Olympus, I had to put those Shenanigans in the drafts until this was over. Anyway, I should prepare myself for going through Heian-Kyo when LB6 drops. Yay, a Sakurai chapter after this...

SQ used: 0 (revival stones used: 8 out of 15)

[emperorbubblegum]

This is kinda super off topic but

When were we last able to save anything?

I'd argue that the Lostbelt before Avalon le Fae were when.

Olympus has us go through one of the most harrowing ordeals that Chaldea's encountered. Cernunnos is a tougher battle in game, and Vortigern had Ritsuka dead to rights at the end, but the machine gods were much more numerous, powerful, and ever present. Avalon le Fae gets real messy real fast, but Chaldea was up to their necks in mess the moment they landed on Olympus.

It ends the same way all the others do, but worse. Chaldea (well, technically Wodime and the Alien God) destroy the tree, and the Lostbelt collapses. Everyone who was inside dies. For the first time, a heroic spirit's record was removed from the throne, leaving Ritsuka and the others never able to see them again, let alone with amnesia.

But we still saved something. Macarios and Adele, Olympus's version of the doomed children the writers throw into every Lostbelt to give the illusion of moral ambiguity, were immortal like all the other citizens of their Lostbelt. They were stuck as children inside the prison of a utopia, forced to live as the gods decreed. They couldn't grow, they couldn't mature, they couldn't be human. As bleak as it is, we saved them from that eternity. We gave them a proper death.

And we saved Kadoc. Kadoc, who was doomed from the start. Kadoc, who should've been shot dead by Billy's revolver were it not for the servant he nutured a bond with, something none of his fellow crypters managed to do. Kadoc, who even after being saved by Rasputin when he should've died with his Lostbelt, still stuck his neck out to betray Wodime, and got it cut in the process.

He wouldn't be alive without us. Yes, Chaldea was holding him hostage for tactical reasons, but he still outlived his teammates because we were there.

Heian-Kyo went about as well as any of the others, but we come off of Olympus the highest we've been since defeating Solomon. Things were looking up for us. The only reason we were originally headed for Britain was because Morgan had a weapon that could hurt the Alien God. It was supposed to be a small pitstop on our way to victory. And then shit hit the fan.

Lostbelt 6 isn't as tragic as it is because we go into it knowing it's doomed, it's tragic because even before the chapter begins, it spends it's entirity making it look like this will finally be the one with a good outcome only to continously give us harsher results than anything we've encountered before.

The chapter does start with the death of a girl named Hope, after all

trying to articulate just what's so painful about LB6, and it's of course the fact that we couldn't save anything -

-but if you think about it more, how long has it been since we've actually been able to "save" anything? Through each Lostbelt we'll protect people from immediate danger if we can, like driving off monsters in LB4, but that doesn't change the fact that we'd be erasing those same people we protected by chopping down the tree. We go into each Lostbelt knowing it is doomed and LB6 is no exception, its just that this time it essentially self-destructed and we had nothing to do with it, we're just dipping in to prevent collateral damage and maybe salvage a Rhongo or two while we're at it.

But no sooner do we arrive in Faerie Britain then we meet Altria, get attached to her and commit to helping her "save Britain". We learn about the whole stable Lostworld thing and figure we can just defeat Morgan to make things better for Britain, evacuate any faeries who want to leave, and otherwise allow Faerie Britain to continue to exist.

That, of course, goes to shit. Even if there were any faeries worth saving, who wouldn't be incalculably cruel to the people of PHH if they did get evacuated, everyone gets massacred by the Calamities. We also find out that even Altria's path to "save Britain" would still be erasing it, just in a kinder way than the destruction of the Calamities. And don't even get me started on the idea of "saving Altria", which Guda fixates on really quickly, Oberon encourages, and then also ends up leading nowhere because we don't even get the opportunity.

So, end of LB6, we fly off into the blue sky having successfully prevented the collapse of the Lostbelt from reaching PHH, we technically did what we came for but still we feel emptier than ever. We knew from the start that Britain was doomed but we still let ourselves get attached to it and it's people and misled by the hope that we could save anything only to have those hopes dashed.

[empty-dream]

From Lostbelt • vol. 3

[brave-symphonia]

I don’t think that’s possible. It would be nice if it was, but probably not.

I mean, aren’t these worlds just fabricated by the trees? Their entire history is just made up by the trees, so it’s hard to imagine there could be something past this for them.

But, who knows. It may be optimistic, but they might have a tomorrow, however unlikely it seems.

I’ve really liked Adele and Macarios, so maybe it’s just me wishing they got a happy ending.

[fangpyres]

excitement for lostbelt 5 release weighted against dread and preemptive anger for the way i know people are gonna talk about the twins

[zeravmeta]

The parallels with Goetia are there sure but really Wodime has far more in common with the Lion King than most people realize, in fact I would argue Wodime is meant to parallel far more with the Lion King but it’s just that the presentation of a paralleled final boss is more in line with Goetia.  It is pretty easy to see the intentional parallels with Wodime and Goetia, both striving for their ideal versions of humanity, but the fundamental difference here is that Goetia literally did not know what he was doing. Goetia couldn’t understand the point of human effort when humans lead such limited lives and saw the inaction of Solomon as cruelty, so his plan to remake humanity started and ended with putting humans out of their misery and was fundamentally flawed from the start. Goetia only saw the error of his ways when he was suddenly incarnated and felt his own mortality, asking Guda to witness him in his final moments as he fights out of sheer human pettiness because in having final moments, he finally understood why it is that humans strive so hard despite being mortal beings within their final moments.

Wodime is different: Wodime does value humanity, and all of his goals center around a feeling of guilt at the idea of his own naivete at the fact that he thought for most of his life that simply being destined for greatness made him great, when it was in fact the small, self sacrificial act of a nameless nobody that ensured he was alive even today. Wodime KNOWS the value of humanity in being saved by someone who he once had never even considered despite the fact that he passed over them every day, and in turn enacts his plan to make New, Better Humanity because he wants to jump ahead of all the steps of human progress and establish an eternal utopia immediately. He understands that what makes humans struggle with their progress are all mortal limitations, things like hunger, disease, and age, and in removing them, he can make an eternal version of humanity that now have essentially infinite time to tackle their differing ideals and reach a consensus that will lead to true peace. The issue with his goals however is that he’s taking the choice entirely out of humanity’s hands (plus his plan relies on sacrificing PHH for it but not the point), and in trying to make humans eternal by force it essentially takes away their ability to grow and change, which was the central focus of Olympus and why Macarios and Adele rebelled against the gods. When you really stop and think about it, Wodimes plan to make a perfect version of humanity that will never change from that perfection is exactly the same as the Lion Kings goals of preserving a perfect version of humanity chosen by the lance.

The Lion Kings motivations and views are those of a god that wants to protect and preserve humans but they are fundamentally rooted in Artorias desire to be an ideal king. Artoria was meant to die with her ideals, but because Bedivere couldn’t handle the idea of that cruelty, Artoria never died, yet in having lost Excalibur she instead took up Rhongomyniad, a lance that slowly transformed her into a god and warped her wish. The ideals she held were still those of wanting to help and save people, but because she had well and truly lost her human perspective they had been warped into those of how a god would tackle her ideals, ie. Taking what is deemed ‘the perfect humanity’ by her own criteria and then preserving them for eternity. And thats the main crux of this: both of them were crushed under the weight of their ideals in striving for the best version of humanity, and were doomed to fail not only because they took the choice out of humanitys hands, but because they relied entirely on a sacrifice of their own humanity. Wodime couldn’t trust PHH with his ideals and planned his own obselesence, even taking pride in it despite the cruelty, and Artoria sacrificed her own humanity and suppressed as much of her individuality as possible for the sake of others because she believed it was the right choice.

But Wodime here says it himself 

[ryogai]

Nix could feel it, the texture Atlas was spreading and how it was changing her. As they fought, her spells grew stronger than they had been before. In the end, despite how difficult it was, she had won. So then why did so much spiral out of control after that? One thing after another unfolded in what felt like rapid succession. Beryl appeared to betray not only Kirschtaria but the Foreign God as well, revealing that his Lostbelt King was able to use a powerful lance she was all too familiar with. As if that all wasn’t bad enough, the very god he turned against arrived after Atlas’ spirit origin had been cut down. Though upon seeing what they looked like.. It was clearly Olga Marie, she even talked like her. There was a clear difference but there was an odd feeling about it all. 

What happened next? It was all a blur really and even Nix had difficulty sorting it all out in her head. The end result was that she and Mash were carrying not only Yuko back to the Storm Border but a healed Kirschtaria as well. The silverette wished they could bring Adele and Macarios along too but they stayed behind with Europa as they used a spell to send them to safety. She knew, they all knew, that it would end this way. That they wanted to stay behind to see their new tomorrow. It didn’t make it any less painful, just like all the other Lostbelts. This particular one though, so much happened here and they still weren’t done. Caeneus arrived for one last fight, in which Gaheris showed up to lend a hand. It was needed since they were all running on fumes by then. 

After winning that final battle and getting the others into the medical wing, Nix was able to retire to her room. Not that she was able to sleep just yet, not when a video was sent to her personal terminal. Watching it, she got to see Musashi and the twins talking again. She missed them. She truly did and perhaps the Director saying they were MIA was the best way to approach this. At least it would allow Nix to imagine that one day they could meet again.. “I should get some sleep.” How she even managed to stay awake long enough to make it back to bed was a miracle all its own. Once her worn and battered form made it back into the comfort of her bed, the master had slipped into a deep sleep..

Interstellar Mountainous City, Olympus : Cosmos Denied