#Leonardo da Vinci (Rider)

[nu-omicron-alpha-eta]

Fate Grand Order Servant Comparisons

Leonardo Da Vinci

Left - FGO

Right - This portrait attributed to Francesco Melzi, c. 1515–1518, is the only certain contemporary depiction of Leonardo.

Leonardo Da Vinci - Gran Cavallo

Left - FGO

Right - Leonardo da Vinci's study in silverpoint for The Horse, c. 1488

Note: Her Profile lists her True Name as "Gran Cavallo"

[actual-haise]

[melusineisthebestest]

So this line made me double check her bio and discovered something else...

Does Mini Vinci count as a horse????

[writer-and-artist27]

In the game, seeing a certain character re-appear in the newest story event of Lostbelt 6.5 Traum had the author feel a lot of things considering this story.

In real life, the author's been cleaning up messes for a good 3-4 months, and anger needed an outlet. Especially when the messes are from someone she thought could be a friend, but turned out to be horribly incompetent in professional settings. Pregnancy be damned.

So. Writing.

Spoiler warning for events up to Section 1 of Lostbelt 6.5 Traum. And content warning for threats of violence and genital mutilation too. Hellsing Ultimate Abridged had influence.

AO3 link here. OST Playlist here, with all the new songs included.

Now to rest this rage off to play the rest of the story of Traum for Holmes and Charlie...

[thefigureresource]

Rider Leonardo da Vinci [Fate/Grand Order] 1/7 scale from Kotobukiya coming November 2023.

[animegirlsakurablr]

Shenanigans in the Grand Order, part 801

Merry Christmas! You're Going To The Underworld

Got her at my first chance, now let's go!

As soon as we do touch it, the... nerves? Not quite a body? Disintegrated.

I still wish that we could've brought that suspicious stick with us.

... As far as I'm aware, I don't think he (Holmes) has made it back.

And of course Sion knew.

I kinda miss that detective jerk.

WHAT-

It's just a record file, fortunately.

We still need to finish the rest of the recording, so no.

From the reaction of Goredolf (and the fandom back two years ago), this is big. Very, very big.

So, like the boogieman of boogiemen, the top horror of the mage world.

[elycchan]

Da Vinci Summer is finally out on NA server! Go get her 🥺💪

[dailyfatefigures]

Leonardo da Vinci - 1/7 Scale - Rider by Kotobukiya

[cutehomeart]

It's impossible to discuss the pantheon of iconic artists without paying due homage to the genius of Leonardo da Vinci. He remains synonymous with the Renaissance era, largely acclaimed for his inimitable talents in the realm of painting, architecture, engineering, and the sciences. But today, we will focus on a unique facet of his artistic oeuvre, an often overlooked, yet intrinsically intriguing artwork - the Horse and Rider wax sculpture.

[mystech-master]

keeping these in

This is so cynical against humans but even ignoring that it's also wrong bc bottlenose dolphins and chimpanzees are 100% smart and capable enough tl commit acts of cruelty against each other and other animals in the area they catch

[thegoodthegrandandtheugly]

wait is da vinci trans?

As far as anyone can be trans in FGO, yes.

The general rundown as far as FGO is concerned is that (Caster) Leonardo da Vinci was the second summoned servant by Chaldea, and was summoned looking as they do in their adult form because Leonardo da Vinci is so heavily associated with the Mona Lisa. He didn't care because he considers the Mona Lisa to be the pinnacle of beauty, and he made a separate servant container that looked exactly the same so he could stay summoned without having to contract with a proper master.

For Caster Da Vinci, he/him and she/her pronouns are both used at certain points, and Dr. Roman refers to Da Vinci as male several times (mostly throughout the early story), but the game starts almost exclusively using she/her pronouns from Camelot onward. People have also used the Valentine's Day chocolates and return gifts as a point of reference for how Da Vinci is considered both male and female for that, but I consider that poor evidence given that someone like Douman is considered Gender: Unknown yet is considered male for the sake of Valentine's day. I tend to veer towards the context presented within the story with how I interpret a character rather than what gameplay gives us considering it can get confusing in that regard.

For her Rider version, it becomes a little blurry considering her Rider version was a back-up body who also considers herself a separate individual from the adult Da Vinci. I personally consider her Rider version female and end the pondering there.

My own interpretation of Da Vinci (the adult version) is that while she went from someone who was explicitly in-universe historically male to female and was perfectly happy with it, she leans more toward being genderfluid and would not care what body she took the form of so long as it fit her aesthetic sensibilities for what beauty is. But that's just my own two cents.

[zoeandsubaloveart]

Horse and Rider, by Leonardo Da Vinci (Italian, 1452-1519)

[writer-and-artist27]

Or the author read the prologue and section 1 of Lostbelt 7, and immediately took offense at events.

Because previous events had the protagonist start something by free fall. DEATH by free fall when there were so many many other options to handle things was just not okay.

Partner jokingly giving the MCU's portrayal of the Falcon/Sam Wilson's version of Captain America for inspiration helped. A lot.

AO3 link here. The OST Playlist is also linked here, with the new songs included.

[fairytale-poll]

ROUND 1B, MATCH 16 OUT OF 16!

*Though I am referring to her as Popelka, her original name in Czech, she is also often referred to as Aschenbrödel, her German name. Additionally, Three Wishes for Cinderella is the English title (with an alternate localized title being Three Gifts for Cinderella). The original Czech title, Tři oříšky pro Popelku, and the German title Drei Haselnüsse für Aschenbrödel both are translated as Three Hazelnuts for Cinderella. All names and titles have been tagged. Any local Czech or German speakers feel free to correct me for any mistakes! :)

Propaganda Under the Cut:

Danielle:

This is, imo, the single best retelling of Cinderella out there. She has a great character, her relationship with the prince grows organically rather than happening in a single night, and the scene with the bandits is top tier

The story is told as a historical romance instead of anything supernatural happening. Drew Barrymore is a cute Cinderella, Anjelica Houston is an incredible stepmother, and she's also really nasty to one of the stepsisters too, who ends up taking Danielle (Cinderella)'s side. Also Leonardo da Vinci is hanging around painting a portrait of Danielle at one point.

The Drew Barrymore Cinderella is fantastic. It’s got real history mixed with beautiful whimsy! I absolutely love the butterfly wings and how she spoke up for her step mother and sister at the end (and that they were still punished). I feel like I need to go watch it now.

she’s funny and smart and she’s resourceful (also her outfits are historically accurate!)

Popelka:

She has so much personality. She's funny, smart, kind, has a lot of spunk, and she really does things instead of just waiting for miracles to occur. Also, she's a great rider and has a deadly aim with bow and arrow.

She finds three hazelnuts that grant her wishes by giving the clothes to do what she wants. Beautiful dresses. The prince puts a ring on her finger while she’s in her huntsman’s outfit.

I don't know how it's faring in modern day Czechia, but here in Germany, Drei Haselnüsse für Aschenbrödel is still THE (non-Disney) Cinderella adaptation and a yearly rewatch for many, despite literally turning fifty this year. It's just so fairytale and also just... good? And she hangs out in the woods and shoots with a crossbow and saves deer and gives the prince riddles and then the music aaa the music!! I guess this isn't just a submission of this version of the character but this version of the story. For those who don't know: This adaptation is based on a Czech author's retelling of the Grimm version of the story, the film was a co-production of Czechoslovakia and East Germany and it slaps so hard it gets played at least 10 times (usually more) on public german television in and around December every single year. This is not an exaggeration, you can look it up, they even make a special, official info graphic with all the air dates every year that people can (and do!) share on social media. In Germany, the main event of Christmas is the 24th, Christmas eve, and on that day they play it at least 4 times (often more) at different times of the day on different public channels (ALL of which any German with a hooked up tv has access to) so anyone who wants to watch it gets a chance to. And Aschenbrödel herself in the movie STILL holds up as a (within reasonable expectations) feminist character, she's skilled, she's smart, she's witty, she and the prince actually talk and they like each other for their personalities, like... yes, there's a couple of flaws with the movie that time has pointed out, but mostly small, background things or things you simply cannot expect a movie from 1973 to get right. It's SO well made and just plain charming, it has truly stood the test of time and I would be devastated if it weren't included. It's also my mum's favourite movie (she's from East Germany and was born in 1969 so she's had regular access to it basically all her conscious life) so we would actually usually watch it multiple times each year and even record it (first on VHS, later again on DVD) so we could rewatch it any time and yet, I literally never got tired of it. It's just good & magical & I love it. Even my brother, who usually didn't care for fairytale movies at all and would much rather play video games in his room, would come down and sit with us to watch this one, THAT'S how good and magical this movie is.

And if all that hasn't convinced you yet but you speak German, here it is on YouTube, go watch it:

[Link]

(I won't provide a Czech link since I can't vouch for any of them as I don't speak czech)

Anyway, dear tournament runner: Have a pic of Aschenbrödel, in my favourite of her magically provided outfits, for the poll:

[Link]

She is the Cinderella of like eastern central Europe and the Story is a little different (she's no. 1 girlboss, beats the prince in a shooting contest and instead of a fairy she has 3 magic hazelnuts/ a magic owl)

[animegirlsakurablr]

Shenanigans in the Grand Order, part 780

Did We Wind Up In FE3H?

I know that this is stemming from how far apart main chapter releases are (on top of me taking my sweet-ass time), but I find it hard to believe when the story goes "it's been a few days/a week since the previous LB".

Yaaaaaaaay...

Ayyyy, it's Apoc Vlad!

I know the limit to three Servants is for story reasons, but I wish that Higashide (the writer) also added another Servant, someone who I'll bring up once I'm done with Traum.

I know I just said "ayyyy", but ayyy, Kadoc's coming with us too!

Thank god, we can communicate.

Hey, haven't we seen this background from Siegfried's Valentine scene?

*whistles* Hot damn. Anyway, we (Kadoc and the player) have to hide while Holmes and Vlad make sure to stay out of the way.

We also get to find out about Kadoc's magecraft. Ironic, since the Lostbelt he was in charge of was filled with beast people.

[morally-grey-girlbosses]

Alright, I've finished looking into the Mordred situation. The TL;DR is that Mordred (Fate) has been disqualified from the tournament moving forward.

My initial reasoning in allowing characters from across the gender spectrum (i.e. Chara, Nimona, Perihelion/ART) was that "girlboss" is a term some nonbinary and male individuals have applied to themselves, or had applied to them by others that they then accepted. Gender experiences are broad and characters who fail to see themselves as "girls" may still be comfortable seeing themselves as "girlbosses." (Similarly, there are many people who embrace being a girl but reject being a woman, or vice-versa - one of my headmates is among these.

However, the parts of Mordred's story that are commonly read as trans or gender-nonconforming elements seem to reject the idea that "girlboss" is an appropriate label for him. For those unfamiliar with the Fate franchise, here are the bullet points. (Note that I myself am not a Fate fan, so any Fate fans in the audience, correct me if I'm wrong on any of these or missed important points.)

Mordred's description in his Saber form uses he/him pronouns for him in multiple places.

Mordred's description in his Saber form explicitly states that "treating him as a woman" will activate his rage (as will "being too obvious about treating him as a man.")

In the original Japanese, Mordred uses a set of first-person pronouns that, while not explicitly gendered, are usually associated with a masculine adult.

There are multiple instances where Mordred snaps and makes violent threats at other characters for referring to him as a "girl" or "woman."

For the sake of balance, I'll also note the following points against the idea of a transmasculine Mordred:

Mordred's description in Rider form uses she/her pronouns for her, as well as stating (in one translation) that she is avoiding grappling with her identity issues in order to enjoy her time at the beach.

Mordred is listed by the game explicitly in multiple places as being female. Contrast this to other canonically trans or gender nonconforming characters in the franchise, such as the nonbinary-coded Astolfo (whose gender is omitted "at their request") and the canonically transfeminine Leonardo Da Vinci (whose gender is listed as "young girl.")

Other characters use she/her pronouns for Mordred frequently.

I have chosen to exclude Mordred from this tournament because most of the points that support his masculine identity deal with his own image of masculinity, and what terms he self-applies, whereas the points against are generally based in his relationship to others and the frameworks that they put upon him.

In practical terms, this means that Nana Daiba (Revue Starlight) is automatically the winner of Round 1 Match 86 and advancing to the next round regardless of the results of the vote. The loser of Round 1 Match 85, Odin (The Bifrost Incident) vs. Enma Ai (Jigoku Shoujo) will automatically win her first match in the loser's bracket, as there is no longer a loser from Round 1 Match 86 for her to battle. Apologies to the fans of Mordred who read his character as feminine and were rooting for her in this poll. Despite my making this decision, I do not endorse any unkindness to the submitter of Mordred, or those who voted for him.

Finally, I would like to apologize to any transgender or gender nonconforming fans of this poll who were offended by Mordred's inclusion in this poll or felt that it made the poll an unsafe or unaccepting place for them. I was not made aware of the complications surrounding this character's gender prior to the tournament, and had I known I would likely have excluded him on similar grounds. As a plural system in which many members are trans, I hope you will be able to forgive and trust us for this error in judgement and recognize that we are doing our best to moderate a poll involving many franchises with which we are not ourselves familiar. It is never our intention to erase the experiences of any transgender individual or invalidate any transgender representation with which those people identify.