#love yall all & fuck all you biphobes!
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ok now that bt is FINALLY bones, all i really have to say is fuck yall for real. there are some of yall that arent that bad, but the overwhelming majority of you guys are actually fucking awful. i have had twitter mutuals be harassed by yall, i have had friends harassed, ive seen people i dont even follow being called horrific things and insulting their appearances, and so so much more. one thing that really sticks out is the blatant misogyny that some of you guys present. the amount of men that have gone online and confidently called women bitches and sluts and whores and cunts and hoes is genuinely fucking deranged, and i hope you all know that. there have been bt stans in my replies and my inbox and in my business, telling me that IM in the wrong for stating my opinions on the weird ass shit theyve been doing, telling me that they "dont feel welcome" in this fandom, and that they feel like this fandom is toxic and etc etc etc etc I DONT CARE BRO. i have said it once and ill say it again and again. some of you guys are just not meant to be in fandom spaces. there are block buttons for a reason. you can block people and tags and literally everything under the sun but you continue to SEEK OUT shit that makes you mad or that you dont agree with just so you can hate on the OPs in their replies. you dont seem to understand that people can have opinions on what characters they like and what ships they enjoy, and that other people have the right to criticize them. i am NOT sorry and i will NOT apologize for how i may have reacted. i do NOT feel bad for you. we all told you that this wasnt going to last, the showeunner said it wasnt going to last. the ACTOR said it wasnt going to last. and instead of using critical thinking skills and media literacy training, you got tattoos for this ship, you spent hundreds of dollars on cameos from a nepo baby, and you spent days of your lives hating on and harassing people over a FICTIONAL TV SHOW. instead of being upset at LFJR for leading yall on, you attacked oliver stark for being "biphobic"??@?!?!??!!??!÷*×(!&×,@ for having an opinion on his own character, especially after he spent time becoming genuinely one of the biggest bisexual allies i have ever seen. after he told reporters that he was planning on playing buck as bi anyway, after he made post after post saying how excited he was for bucks storyline, and after he advocated for this character he loves so dearly. you jumped down his throat for no reason. i have absolutely no sympathy for you. i really do hope you follow lfjr back to SWAT and i truly hope he gets every single line and every single scene just to keep him off of my fucking screen. 🫶
#finally comes the time where i make an incredibly long incredibly incoherent rant about bucktommys#not all of yall are bad but all i have had is bad experiences with you guys.#also im saying ostark is a bisexual ally bc im NOT going to rpf in this post...maybe later as a treat#FUCK lfjr#FUCK bucktommy#and FUCK TOMMY KINARD.#911 abc#anti tommy kinard#anti bucktommy#if ur pro bt DO NOT reply to this i do not want to hear ur opinions idc idc idc#idc if youre “one of the good ones” i dont care if buddies have harassed you (right now) i really dont want to hear it#obviously there are bad buddies too. this isnt about them#this is about how me but ESPECIALLY my friends and the people i follow have been treated recently.#buddie#THE END
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yall wanna talk about how so many of yall fall into biphobia because in your mind, it's a bunch of white women complaining about nothing?????
because why am i seeing people... gay men, gay women especially... talking about "bisexuals love pretending to be oppressed" baby.... what are you fucking talking about right now.
it's not escaped my notice how sexist biphobic people are. not all sexists are biphobic but all biphobic assholes are sexist.
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KY'S LIFE IS STRANGE DOUBLE EXPOSURE NONSENSE LIVEBLOG: Chapter 1
(spoilers obvi) (these will only make sense if u watched or played the game and even then it may be shakey lmao)
tutorial
(edit lmfao i forgot to post this on wednesday, its been sitting in my drafts so thats y some of the comments sound weird)
chat i fear this was such a bad playthrough on my behalf...
LOVE LOVE LOVE max having trauma. i want to see her suffer in this game
LIS2 PHOTO !!!!
something i havent seen alot of people mention is the fact that bc they have a diff pose, it's likely that they took a bunch (or at least 2) selfies and gave one to david then kept the other. (also means rhat chloe could have a version of this pic as well !!!!)
pricefield travelling bc they couldn't js settle down </3 (somebody remind me and i'll do my pricefield analysis btw)
depending on the outfit you pick, max can have pink tips !!!! #canonpinkhair
JOURNAL .
OH MY GOD SHES WRITING TO CHLOE.
stop okay i love this new journal. the idea that post storm she got a whole new one; max dissociating after the storm (she says the days blurred n stuff), max always being "stuck in the past", chloe never looking at her the same after she learned abt joyce, so much angst oml
"she left me" oh my god
okay i need to move on from the journal lmfao
ngl i actually love amanda as a friend. she fr brought max food and noticed rhat taking pictures helps her cope best
okayyy reggie is my new fav side character. he's such a cutie pootie fr
ew it's fake rachel amber
VINH?? THE VINH??
TAKE THAT BIPHOBIC MAX "FANS"
vinh and max have chemistry better then her and Amanda i fear
LMFAOO?? WHY DOES MAX HAVE THE REPUATION OF A LOCK-PICK?? WHAT DID SHE DO BRUH💀😭
i need gwen so badly tbh. i'm like 80% sure shes not evil and she's rhe david madsen of this game
actually ykw i need ALL of yall. this whole game is full of baddies
i love the accent that safi and her mom have.
that suicide question is fucking stupid bc?? the game is about solving a murder?? who would pick the probably option thats crazy (girl who picked the probably option)
i'm ngl from this point onward i started lowkey speedrunning the game and thats when i fucked up so i'm gonna replay soon and slow tf down😭😭
LORETTA WHEN I CATCH YOU LORETTA.
LET ME GET HER. LEMME AT HER.
im gonna beat this bitches ass oh my god
GWEN NO CUM BACK- I MEAN CUM- I MEAN CU-
shit i think gwen's rhe one i need to actually like me but like😭 im so bad without rewind
i love moses but blud is yappin too much tbh
yes king i miss her too. yes king men can cry too. yes king you can grieve. now give me magic
bye why is loretta theatening max.
max is SO unbothered by that threat💀 shes like "i rewound time to save my ex-gf from being shot and the kid who shot her continued to harass me for the rest of rhe week until my professor murdered him (and kidnapped me and killed my ex gf), this is so NOT a big deal"
chat so i MAY have gotten scared after gwen and avoided beefing with lucas. another mistake to fix next gameplay ig
yay magic
i miss using L2. R1 is such a stupid ass button
okay so all in all, its so interesting to see the ending percentages. especially knowing that its mostly super fans bc of the ultimate thing.
also interesting that as of 8pm EST on opening day, 59% of players chose bae>bay. also like a overwhelming majority romanced chloe and that is SO important to note to me
i'm 100% gonna resume chapter 2 tmmr and rhen likely start a new save at some point next week to slow down and REALLY focus on the details that i missed cuz i missed hella stuff
#life is strange#life is strange double exposure spoilers#lis double exposure spoilers#life is strange de spoilers#lis de spoilers#double exposure spoilers#ky plays life is strange double exposure
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*clears throat* okay-
wtf is this discourse bro 💀💀 "go outside and touch grass" yall are arguing over whether or not..fictional crack fanon ships are misogynistic. like this is absolutely a discussion but the issue here is foundational, jegulus and wolfstar may often portray misogynistic and fetishizing behaviors but that is literally the bones of modern fandom culture. to ignore the canon in favor of more creative fan-made interpretations or depictions, you are inherently subjecting these fanworks to criticism regarding the ethics behind it.
if you are going to have this cake (say mlm ships are misogynistic) you need to put the fork down (stop consuming most fan-content)
this may seem like a wild jump to make but ill use a similar fandom that im more familiar with to illustrate this 'slippery slope'
i love the percy jackson fandom! i have grown up on those books. but here's a list of non-canon ships and their criticisms.
percico; usually paints annabeth as biphobic or erases her from the narrative entirely. also ignores that nico explicitly stated that he doesn't like percy. (percy/nico - mlm)
jasico; disregards character dynamics and forces the gay character into a harmful stereotype. (jason/nico - mlm)
jercy(.?); pushes harmful narratives that two men are not allowed to have an emotionally healthy friendship without being gay. (percy/jason - mlm)
pipabeth(??); fetishizes wlw relationships, is often only a companion to an mlm ship, and drags these characters so far out if themselves that they are barely recognizable so they feed into a palatable lesbian dynamic. (piper/annabeth - wlw)
jiper; disregards canon characters and forces piper to be straight. (jason/piper - wlm)
and for gits and shiggles, brason; supports the unhealthy idea that since he didn't "get the girl" he is undeserving of an actual relationship (jason/ a literal brick - ml🧱)
none of these ships are actually bad, in fact, most are handled very nicely even if i dont personally ship it but, they all have massive ethical flaws.
do you see my point here?
and if you're wondering why i care especially since ive stated multiple times that im only really on marauders tumblr bc jegulus is solangelo w better quality fics and i do not know very much abt harry potter...kick.
this is basically a line-for-line bar-for-bar repeat of the klance vs allurance battle of 2018, of which i had to explain to people that every one of the ships for vld is awful and by participating in shipping of any sort you are being willfully ignorant to the unethical/immoral nature of pretty much any ship ever.
so in conclusion, do i give a shit? absolutely fucking not. do i still think that this is the most absurd form of performative activism ive ever seen and possibly thinly veiled homophobia? yeah. and fyi... no one fucking cares, these are fake people who have 0 canon personalities at all, all of them are dead, and the author is a raging transphobe.
take a breath, go outside, and if you truly want to criticize behavior in the marauders, you should probably start with the insane amount of incest- like seriously guys wtf is going on?? like ik my fandoms may not be perfect but i couldve gone my entire life without reading the tag "star crossed brothers" while im looking for a cute little solangelo jegulus fic
im joking (..kind of) but seriously dude, if you don't like something in a fandom, just avoid it. theres no point in tearing people down over fictional injustices. unless a ship is fundamentally immoral (im looking at you mcu starker 👀) it's a futile argument.
i could tell you that jily is a disgusting display of harassment and manipulation in which james refuses to respect lily's wishes and blah blah blah but you dont care, it's nothing jily shippers haven't heard a million times before.
i think that ron and hermione are terrible for eachother because they almost constantly fight and appear to hate one another not to mention that ron is immature and something something it doesn't matter.
i could write an actual proper essay on this if you'd like but i think you get the gist.
pov: marauders fans when you call them out on their thinly veiled misogyny (grow the fuck up maybe) , hidden quite terribly behind the continued fetishisation of mlm relationships (which is also fucking weird seek therapy maybe)
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just when did people decide it was okay in any way to police the way people identify themselves? like i hate to be the one to say this, but i can promise you that the 14 year old on this site using a term youve never heard of to describe their specific experience with gender identity/sexuality is not the fucking enemy. like theyre not. hell, no one using obscure terms is the enemy! we're all just trying to figure ourselves out; trying to manoeuvre in a very cis-het society that makes it hard for even the people who know with 100% certainty where their sexuality or gender lies. get off your damn soapbox and stop preaching to people just trying to figure themselves out; we're all on the same side here.
#also. this does NOT extend to ppl on the internet slapping lgbtq+ ~exclusive~ terms to people not in the community. i.e#pedophiles/'super straights'/or w/e bullshit people will come up with in the future to try to shove their way into our spaces.#those ppl are Not what this is about. its not even close. those people are simply trying to infiltrate spaces bc they think theyre#entitled to belong somewhere where they so clearly are not welcome.#also. this doesnt apply to the ppl trying to cutify existing labels to make them more palatable to people.#our identities dont need to be easy to consume in order to be accepted!!! if you cant accept our sexualities/#ways of gender expressions then youre a problem. theres no exceptions. dont try to terms cute bc it makes YOU#more comfortable. our labels/terms arent for you to decide if theyre appropriate or not. bc guess what! if you aint lgbtq+#our terms arent for you! it wild i know since yall think everything applies to you but it doesnt. god.#this post is for the confused ppl throwing things at the metaphorical wall and seeing what sticks. trying out terms#and seeing what makes them feel comfortable bc i swear to god if i keep seeing ppl being like 'dont use this label for xyz' and its#just like a word or something uncommon them im going to fucking lose my mind#there are some exceptions - like pansexual (its biphobic) or demisexual (i think someone just made that up in a forum post#if i remember correctly) and i think there are some others but for the most part its all grey area that makes some people so#damn MAD for some reason and like it isnt that serious!!! young queer people have a hard time these days bc there are so#many labels these days!!! and social media in particular has made it almost normal to know everything abt yourself at even a young#age and thats where much of the problem is. at least thats what i think lmao#anyways...to round this out: respect young queer people and whatever identity they choose. let them change their label#as much as they feel they need to. and if youre an adult please for the love of GOD think before you make posts talking#about how to identify yourself. theres lots of young people on this website who will take your word as gospel. be responsible.#i think thats all...i hope this came out the way i wanted it to but im not always the best with getting my thoughts out </3#anni.txt
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Content warning for Biphobia, also mentions of (but no actual details or anything) of harassment, assault etc.
Also the MAJORITY of this post will focus on Biphobia only because it's easier for my brain to stay on topic if I do that but I do get there are multiple intersections that can happen/that I could go into but at moment I am just choosing not too because it's just easier.
Something I wish that could be talked about more is how the first two, LG, within the LGBTQIA+ acronym can and often do weaponize their identities & the marginalization they face to use against any other marginalized identities they don't like (especially when it's involving LGBT BIPOC).
This is specifically something I've noticed happen often when Bi+ &/or mspec individuals talk about the rampant ongoing biphobia we have to face within these spaces but no one really seems to care. Even our own who tend to be less marginalized or are internalizing that discrimination will go to bat for LG who are being bigoted and use their identity as a a way to shield them.
This is specifically in reference to discourse around Bi lesbians but I'm also talking about ANY Biphobia I see which I have PERSONALLY been more exposed to by Lesbians then any other Queer identities. It's not even overt half the time, other times it subtle but pervasive & I & many people still notice it but try calling it out & you get nothing but "you're Lesbophobic" "stop bullying Lesbians" "that doesn't exist/that isn't a thing/your making that up/making up problems" etc.
Now this part is going to be "problematic" but I've honestly in recent years have become very uncomfortable around most cis Lesbian ONLINE communities because of this. I've blocked or muted multiple who are straight up biphobic or are more subtle such as hating Bi/Pan Lesbians & arguing "Bi's have no say on this" & using horrible ahistorical arguments or the good old victim blaming narrative of "well if BI Lesbians are allowed to exist men are going to harass US even more!" not only horribly wrong because men with boundary issues never gave a shit before about labels so why would they now all of a sudden? It's not like that kind of narrative can't at all backfire and be used by them if they find out about it as a way to excuse their shitty ass behavior (*cough cough* gay panic*cough*) but the also NOT so subtle insulting insinuation that Bisexuals (even straight women tbh) deserve/should expect the harassment just for being Bisexual/having the possibility to be attracted to men (& as an extra layer of "fucked up" statistically speaking Bi+ people have MUCH higher rates of violent/sexual harassment/assault against them then other sexualities & obviously gets much worse if you're also Trans so I don't trust ANYONE one who uses that as an argument against Bi Lesbians, ESPECIALLY Bi+ MSPEC individuals).
There are no solid arguments I've heard so far against Bi+ lesbian identities besides "Lesbians should be allowed to have their own thing!" Which... I mean... I guess? I just feel like I've RARELY heard this sort of thing from any other group, Gay HAS become an umbrella term whether Biphobes want to admit it or not. I don't feel like I've heard gay men go as hard as some Lesbians have about wanting their own space away from the "icky" Bisexuals. And I can say I don't see that talk really from other groups a whole lot either, occasionally of course it does happen bi/pan spaces against one another but I feel it's a bit more rare compared to how often I see exclusionist Lesbians not wanting ANY sort of contact or community space with people who don't exclusively use the Lesbian label so yeah i find it hard to not see this as more then respectable/rebranded Biphobia.
I'm just tired of it & wish Bi+ & MSPEC individuals could just catch a break for once & not have to deal with this FUCKING bullshit, we honestly deserve much better.
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Very Angry rn so I wanted to clarify my stance on the thing that pissed me off since all of Vaste's friends are also ok for people to borrow as mentions or portrayal, literally only Black people get a say in this with me, I'd like Non Blacks to say nothing please, this is not a conversation you have any stake in
Infuriates me popular blogs run by Whites and Non Blacks co-opt the dark skin/character with Black features slave narrative be it in a major or minor way for their dark characters when they have no right to exploring trauma their ancestors didn't suffer and in the case of White run blogs, trauma their ancestors spread
#tw: all caps#just in case bc I know all caps simulates yelling for some people which might trigger#ref#I've blocked the bitches and have receipts but it's still sickening#every time I want ppl to have some sense they act like fucking animals#I actively hate the fandom actually if no one put it together I'm saying it now I hate it here and I'm only here for me#literally here for me and if ppl wanna look at Vaste or talk abt Vaste and act like you have sense ok fine#but for ppl on some bullshit I have no time yall need psych help the racism/homophobia/pro ship shit is a disease#and so many ppl here see it as a non issue bc they don't even know they're insane and have internalized dehumanizing views and stereotypes#literally just today I saw earthlystar lie abt Cid's sexuality to self victimize so she can say gay hc's are biphobic and ppl 👏#like bitch go to fucking counseling and examine your beliefs and how you view other human beings bc her characters also so fucking racist#I'm tired of White ppl and their lackeys yall I hate it so much like sometimes it's funny to laugh at but it rly is depressing#I love Vaste so much tho I will never give up on Vaste but I also do feel that WoC anger that Human anger#if anyone cries over this I don't care I don't fucking care abt your White feelings and crocodile tears#learn to stop making everything abt you and your Whiteness and your conformity or eat shit and die those are your only options#the blogs w hundreds of followers and black ex-slaves or slave situations are tiergan-vashir & windup-dragoon#they're racist and pro ship in other ways too and it's not just them literally dozens of blogs follow similar logic#I can be fine and laughing w my friends or whatever not even having to look at that shit and Still get hit remembering ppl like this exist#the worse part is knowing you can't physically put hands on these motherfuckers and that ppl praise them regardless that powerlessness#that powerlessness is the worst pain#oh and then we have ppl like sundered-souls w the misogyny saying In Public that women can say no w/o feeling threatened#and that women are making up being oppressed or in danger AND PEOPLE INCLUDING WOMEN LIKE MIQOJAK AGREED??? HELLO???#Wendy Williams Vc: Death- Death To All Of Them#then fucking...lordofcrowns plays a black man who enslaves people & loves violence and power w it and everyone thinks he's baby I'm- 🔫#deadass I hope these people die and it's painful and cold and not how they wanted#AND LORDOFCROWNS ISNT DARK SKIN EITHER??? White people are a fucking experiment missing from an underground holding lab at that point#fucking Species not human fucking Species
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Real.
bisexual, pansexual, and lesbian are three different identities, but we all have one thing in common. We have all been discriminated against. Can't we, as a community, just kindly respect eachother, or are we too uncivilized for that? Do we not have enough common sense and sympathy to love and respect eachother enought to stand as a community, or will we actually just let the fucking bigots do what they please?
Something that radefem/ "antis"(yall just wanna discriminate, call yourself biphobic or transphobic and move on, don't sugarcoat) don't seem to understand is that it doesn't stop at the identities they don't think are valid. BITCH, THEY'LL TAKE AWAY YOUR RIGHTS TOO, YOU ABSOLUTE NUMBSKULL. But no, please, just please stand back and watch as yourself and the rest of the lgbtqia+ community is slowly turned against eachother.
Is it important to you to identify with labels that reflect your experience?
Then consider how it is also important to lesbians to be able to have a word that describes our experience- one that is not changed to mean other things or made to include experiences that are directly antithetical to ours.
Lesbian is lesbian. It is not bisexual, it is not pansexual. It is lesbian.
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the issue is not whether or not I personally believe in fake relationships or pr relationships. i do. the issue I have is that you're insisting EVERY man she is with is a fake relationship, even though she came out as bisexual during lover era and keeps aligning herself with bisexuality even now. the biphobic behavior is you not believing taylor could be actually genuinely in love with any man she decides to date because you've decided she is "queer" but only queer in a very lesbian way, which is actually less probable than taylor being bisexual. what's not fucking clicking. you can be queer and have real relationships with men. taylor's insistence on continuing to date men while being very queer in her music is not a conspiracy theory of her being a lesbian. it's her validating her bisexuality in ALL of her attraction and it's shameful that for all the pro-queer rhetoric in the gaylor community, yall are still pretending taylor dating 1 woman 1 time means all her other relationships are fake and invalid.
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writers: *doesnt acknowledge a bi characters’ attraction to the same gender*
yall: thats not cool
what yall think we say: OMFG THATS BIPHOBIC THEYRE STILL BI IF THEYRE WITH THE OPP GENDER
what we actually say: the writers are biphobic/homophobic for not allowing said bi character to express interest or mention past attraction to the same gender, but as an isolated scenario, a bi character with the opp gender doesn’t take away from their sexuality
#sam.txt#i saw the dumbest fucking tweet yesterday and i hated it so much#yall think we call people biphobic for fun ey?#you think that we love springing up on people and screaming about how a bi woman with a man doesnt take away from their sexuality 24/7?#yall think we just sit there silently when writers are homophobic/biphobic as hell when writing bi characters?#cant fucking relate#bi tag#all caps /
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why are people so mad about rebelcaptain i literally cannot think of a less problematic ship sdfkjhdf
anon I'm with you in the sense of like the idiots who think it's homophobic to ship a mf relationship (uno reverso it's actually biphobic to say that tyvm). im fairly certain its just one troll sending those anons though lol.
but im actually going to hold the rebelcaptain fandom to a bit of account for a moment if yall dont mind. in a loving way. and actually everyone. I'm holding shippers to account for a bit. with love and respect and anyone who thinks this is like idk attacking all shippers is an idiot and should go sit in the corner for fifteen minutes.
I don't want to ignore the feelings of some fans, some of whom are friends of mine, who experienced some very shitty xenophobic/racist bullshit from some rebelcaptain shippers throughout their time in fandom. There have been people writing shitty stereotypical Latin Lover shit in rc fic, there have been people writing very racialized and xenophobic portrayals of Cassian and when some Latine fans and fans of color pointed this out, they've gotten vitriol and bullshit from no doubt white women fans. It's a similar thing actually, exotification/fetishization/etc is harmful in all of its forms and I'm not going to act like it hasn't happened in this fandom.
It's frustrating as hell knowing a lot of these same people would push back heavily on fanboys sexualizing and fetishizing Jyn for being a woman, but that's white feminism for you.
so there are people who don't like rebelcaptain literally because of how some rebelcaptain fans have behaved and I'm not going to dismiss or deny that.
but rebelcaptain itself is like super innocuous and absolutely in no way is shipping a mf relationship homophobic lol that is so fucking embarrassing, anyone who says that is an idiot and very likely a straight woman with internalized misogyny who needs to fetishize mlm and can't relate to other women or femmes. especially since like I've said before, a lot of queer women and femmes gravitate towards ships with women and femmes because it's nice to see us in our ships. but these weirdos don't care about queer people. they care about getting off to gay porn and feeling good about doing it.
it's why so much of slash fic is like just taking gay stereotypes and putting them on characters they don't fit. and queer men and mascs have talked for years about how harmful it is and how difficult it is to find actually respectful, relatable mm fic that isn't just like top/bottom shit. I'm LOOKING AT THE TREATMENT OF THIS WHOLE FANDOM OF BODHI ROOK.
something that I've seen bodhi/cassian fans talk about how sometimes rebelcaptain fans can be racist and I am going to have to agree. because fans of a thing are part of systems and have real world biases, not because rebelcaptain itself is ~problematic lol.
but I've also seen a bunch of bodhi/cassian fans literally talk so much misogynistic shit about jyn and welp turns out they're just women fans of slash who think they're idk allies to queer people. I'm trying to be careful how I say this because I'm not trying to start shit with the good ship bassian, i come in peace lol, but... it's fairly common in my experience for women fans to ship m/m ships that have approximately five minutes of screen time together and do it in a fetishizing way and then totally skewer the actual canonical woman in the canon ship. but that happens with mf ships too, and women of color are much more likely to get it for "being in the way" or whatever lol.
it's why I was actually very worried about how some rebelcaptain shippers were talking about bix and adria before the show started, like cassian potentially having a love life before jyn coming into his life is a threat or something. that's just internalized misogyny with a racist/xenophobic tint to it since none of the other ladies cast got that from fans.
actually it's concerning to me that so much of the andor ao3 tag is like... weird fetishizing reader pov shit. or like ocs. and not any of the love interests who cassian has in the show. However much I do not think bix and cass are good together because of their toxic history, I definitely think they have so much chemistry and HISTORY that it warrants more than like two people even touching on it in their fic. I'm glad as hell that cinta and vel are getting so much love in fic, but that's such an outlier in fandom. wlw ships are so overlooked because it's not about exploring the characters and the stories for these fetishizing weirdos. it's just about attaching slash fic tropes to men and mascs who they don't fit.
#the agonies aka shipping discourse#fandom racism#fandom misogyny#fandom drama#fandom queerphobia for a bit of a laugh#asks#answered#anonymous#meta#a break in my day oh good
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I mean... I've seen this shit with Star Wars, the fandom toxicity actually drove me out of my favorite fandom. I ended up being disgusted at the idea of having to defend my take on the fandom, to being afraid of even *saying* I was fan of Star Wars.
CQL has a *lot* of problematic characters. Actually, all of them are problematic. Sorry not sorry but (affectionately) the main characters are trashfires and not in the good way. I mostly prefer the secondary characters, sue me, and I am baffled at how wrong and disgusting sometimes people are.
As an asexual goblin, I am not interested in porn fanfic, but yet here am I, not insulting people sexualizing characters, even ace characters. Do I insult their mama? No. Do I aks them to kill themselves? No. Do I call them sex offenders? No. They're not. I have seen fanfictions that would send yall to the institute. I have seen *takes* on characters.... brrr.
But we can be cordial about it. We don't need to be biphobic about Wei Wuxian who, do I need to remind you, hit on girls and was highly homophobic in his spare oblivious times. We don't need to be acephobic about Jiang Cheng and say he's a misogynistic pos because he has no game and no girl. He's just not interested. You just need an excuse to let all the hate you're keeping IRL flow out.
Chill out. Take a walk. Drink some fucking calming tea.
Leave people and their faves alone.
@black-n-white-wings you're okay. I love your take on Jiang Cheng, love talking about the characters with you. You write him wonderfully. He's awkward and empathetic and lame and cool and ruthless and gentle. He's an AMAZING uncle. He'd kill for Jin Ling, He'd kill for his brother. Don't let people ruin your fun, they're not worth it.
To say JC was disrespecting his sister's sacrifice by blaming WWX for her death is a bit of a reach, honestly. Especially since that's obviously his trauma speaking. Merely him trying to put the blame onto someone because sometimes, when we grieve, we feel better when there is someone to blame. Something to attribute those feelings to and hope that by hunting it down, maybe they'll finally go away? And that maybe he will finally get the answers and feelings of closure he yearns for when he does?
We see his conflicted feelings throughout the latter part of the story and how he struggled with them, after all (Which is another tragic aspect of his and WWX's character, which we can't ignore).
Even then, you could argue that in the moment, that was just how JC perceived and rationalised things. WWX did lose control at Nightless City. And whilst it wasn't intentional, and this time by the hands of someone else, rather than his own "zombies", we can see why JC would rationalise it to be WWX's fault. That's what trauma does to a person.
Also, the implications that JC sees his sister as some "commodity" is just wrong and unfairly misrepresenting his character, too. Sorry. Especially whilst he respected all of her wishes throughout. Be it her choice to marry JZX or not, despite JC and WWX hating the dude.
Allowing her that choice to either reject the arrangement (which was hugely beneficial for the sect btw and something families did back then), or accept it by choice is a big deal for a dude of that period tbh. Especially whilst JC effectively had "control" over his sister (which again, he never exercised. She was always the big sister to him, whose word he respected. We see this when he confides in her during the search for WWX during the war). So no. She wasn't a commodity for him. JC started a siege over this woman. He loved her dearly and to reduce their relationship to something so surface level is disingenuous and so not what the author wanted to convey in her work. Js.
To sum up, whilst JC was factually wrong to accuse WWX of the death of his sister, we can see beneath the surface why he reached that conclusion, regardless of the facts.
Context matters greatly here. And WWX did inadvertently bring that threat to them. What doesn't help is also the events that took place before this.
WWX refused to open up to JC when prompted. He kept things from him prior to the incident and just.. Looked culpable as heck for everything despite actually being innocent (especially since this took place not long after the death of his brother in law which was apparently by WWX's hands). All feelings of confusion, anger and grief were bound to mount up and unfortunately, WWX was going to be the outlet for all that because behind it all, there he was. Looking responsible for all that went wrong for JC (despite us as the reader knowing that there's more to the situation than that and that wasn't true. But remember, JC doesn't see what we see. So it's only natural he's going to attribute all that's gone wrong in his life to the man that was always there, somehow at the core of it -ahem. No pun intended there!-).
But all this aside, you've got to remember that JC does let WWX go in the end anyway. He drops all feelings of malice as the truth comes out and he learns that WWX wasn't actually fully responsible for everything he accused and hated him for.
To still hate JC for initially blaming WWX for the cause of JYL's death is a bit silly tbh, especially when they effectively closed that chapter at the end of the book and moved on anyway.
JC doesn't pursue him anymore for answers and nor does he continue to hold him accountable for everything. To bring up his old feelings when the book is finished and all has been put to bed is unfair tbh. Especially when some of you won't even put yourself in JC's shoes and try to come to understand how he came to that conclusion in the first place.
#jiang cheng#canon jiang cheng#the untamed#cql#mdzs#fandom is toxic : what a surprise#toxic fandom#toxic fanbase#biphobia#acephobia#misunderstood characters
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Reminder to all parties (Lokius, S*lkis)...
YALL ARE HYPOCRITES.
Yes: both Mobius and Sylvie abused Loki during the series. And yes, biphobia and transphobia has increased in this fandom (because of this shit show). However, none of y'all are innocent.
Many S*lkis love to harp on the "wah, you biphobic misogynist! You are mad your gay ship isn't canon!" excuse on Twitter and on here, but in you all are silencing those are female and/or female presenting and/or trans women (who may or may not be bi), as well as other bi folk who found more issues with S*lki. Such as the pro-Autogynephilia messaging Disney/Marvel been pushing (there is literally no way to dance around it, it is autogynephilia. Please stop lying to yourselves - KH, SDM, MW and EM have all revealed their true colors when it comes down to trans people and their views on them. Sophia has blocked trans folk [idk if these people are for either ship] on Twitter who called her out on her transphobia and/or critiquing her and/or her character; and Kate has been outright ignoring and playing innocent to her fucking audience members) by forcing Loki with a female version of himself who is a massive sociopathic bitch, and the actual biphobia is how so many people (either Lokius or S*lki or none) called Loki's sexuality as nothing more than him being frisky til he fell in "true love" with Sylvie (yes, I have seen these horseshit takes. And it needs to stop) and the fact Kate herself said she wasn't going to continue exploring that element of Loki's identity (then again, she never did. Stop praising her for literally doing fuck all), and the incest issue as well as the IPV that Sylvie performs on Loki makes Amber Heard look like a fucking saint.
And, before anyone gets pissy, Mobius is just as bad. Being Waldy's self insert, of course (much like how Sylvie was Katie's), he treats Loki like shit and threatens him with death and tortures him repeatedly throughout the series. However, I myself still enjoy the natural and authentic chemistry between Wilson and Hiddleston, and for me, that makes this ship a little more enjoyable than the former. But, I know just how toxic the Lokius fandom is on Twitter (I mean, Twitter in general is a toxic cest pool owned by Elon Musk now. Are we really surprised?) and they need to learn just to block and ignoring and to not engage in sending threats. If you are by any chance a Lokius shipper who has/planned to send threats - piss off into Hell, rn.
Hell - BOTH parties need to realize that they need to learn just to block and ignore. NOT SEND THREATS (Or you can piss off into hell). This is the problem that both parties are guilty of: sending threats and/or KYS messages to anyone regardless of their shipping stance; hell, even valid criticisms about the show and people who've made them- yeah, they've gotten threats as well. I have seen a few mutals of mine repeatedly be sent death threat after death threat, for posting their opinions ON THEIR BLOG. And it needs to stop.
Also, do not send me death threats for the tags or for the fact that I made this post. Y'all never cared for tagging appropriately (yes - both parties). And the tags aren't for positive only posts.
#loki critical#Loki#Loki series#Fandom Wanks#Fandom Discourse#Lokius#Sylki#Sylki Wank#Sylki Fandom Wank#Lokius Wank#Lokius Fandom Wank#Both Mobius and Sylvie are POS#Anti Sylki#Anti Lokius#AntiSylki#AntiLokius#No sending death threats#Nor KYS messages#Stop being fucking hypocrites Loki series stans 2020s challenge#Angry TERFY brats attract Angry TERFY brats
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A large portion of tfatws discourse was based on Bucky's sexuality and how the mcu should make him a canon bisexual cos of rep. But a lot of you are full of shit because of how misogynistic, biphobic and downright racist yall got when a Bucky/Sharon romance was rumored and when seeds of Bucky/Sarah were shown. Yall ran Sharon into the ground for weeks before the show started and said the most racist awful things about Sarah Wilson because Bucky flirted with her. A lot of you don't want Bucky to be bisexual because of representation. You want him to be bi because you know they'll never make him gay and him being bi is the closest you'll get to saying stucky is canon. This was never about representation for some of you cos yall quickly forgot the meaning of bisexuality when Bucky looked at a female character. And when Bucky/Sarah took off, yall yelled queerbait when that was NEVER the case. Malcolm Spellman did a lot of foul shit but when he said "I'm not diving down rabbit holes, just watch the show", he didn't queerbait you. He just said he's not engaging in that discourse and yall should watch the damn show. And when some gays in the fandom spoke up and told yall to stop calling close male friendships on tv queerbait, you ignored them too.
Yes, queer rep is lacking and that's on disney/marvel. But dark skin female love interests are also lacking in main stream TV. And those of us that are queer AND black (and ship sambucky) pointed out the importance of Bucky/Sarah and how it doesn't cancel Bucky's perceived bisexuality but you anti black straights and white queers ignored it all cos fuck intersectionality huh. This isn't about rep for some of you. It's about 2 particular canonically straight male characters you want to become canon. And I hope yall give the queer couple in Eternals this energy but we all know you won't and why.
Now I assume most of the people doing this are actually straight women. But some of the people who gave so much pushback to bucky/Sarah despite asking for bisexual Bucky are supposedly queer too. Apparently Bucky's bisexuality is only valid when he's with a man 🥴.
Yall can have your issues with what Anthony said or the way he said what he did, lord knows some of it was cringy but let's not pretend like there's not some truth to it.
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Tbh after finding your blog I was finally able to conceptualize why I was never comfortable talking to radblr as a bisexual women. Gay people aren't oppressors but the miserable and insecure ones out there really ENJOY tearing us down and silencing us just to make themselves feel better. We're easy targets from their POV bc we dont have a strong community to fall back on.
It's also so fucking funny how they try to pretend that bisexuals never existed before the 20th century bc bisexuals "have the option to be in a straight relationship, therefore they are incapable of ever falling in love with the same sex". Like sis? 😂 sexuality can't be turned off, it would be deranged to try and push the idea that every same sex interaction throughout history was done by lesbians and gay men. The reality is that we're never gonna know for certain whether or not those people were gay or bi bc straight people never gave a fuck to differentiate between us until very recently.
And then some gay people have the absolute gall to tell us what is and what isn't biphobic. Like seriously, what the actual FUCK do these clowns get out trying to police us? Some of yall need to mind your own business lmao. They also use homophobic bi people as an excuse to degrade bisexuals and silence us. Radblr really is a cesspool of shitty women pretending to be feminists, but I'm glad I was able to find a bisexual radfem that doesn't cowtail to their bullshit. Wish you all the luck in the world bestie ❤.
I couldn't say that any better myself, seriously.
The one difference that they refuse to acknowledge is that while we're equally oppressed by straight people, they have spaces where they can vent about straight people and get applauded for it, while bisexuals are never allowed to talk about our oppression ever.
They obsess with hating us, but we can't even convince our own community to even only care about the worst examples of biphobic oppression, never mind discuss biphobic oppression in general, so how can we liberate ourselves when even in spaces that are supposed to understand oppression, we're not allowed to speak?
The worst of it is that we always have to apologise for the homophobic bisexuals, but they never apologise for the biphobic monosexuals. And I say monosexuals, because straight biphobes are coddled by lesbians. Straight people! Literally the group that oppress them!
So not only do you have insecure lesbians attacking us to be both biphobic and misogynistic because they feel more "comfortable" abusing us instead of holding straight men accountable, you have self-hating bisexuals who suck up to them because they've been trained to see any issues surrounding bisexuality as "unimportant" where their only purpose is to exist as tokens to silence the rest of us and virtue-signal and support biphobia, and even worse than all of that is the straight women who then get so comfortable that they sidle up to lesbians, pretending to be their allies to vent all of their hatred for everyone who isn't straight towards bisexuals, making sure simply to not be outwardly homophobic because they know that homophobia is the thing that calls them out.
The biggest irony in this space is the obsession with sex. They're such fauxminists that they believe that internalised misogyny ends with the technical ability to not hate and be traumatised by PIV sex, which ends up making them believe that sexuality and acting on sexuality is a sign of moral purity, when it blatantly isn't.
The inability to understand that bisexuality is an actual sexuality ends up making them both idiots and hypocrites, coddling straight oppressors as an excuse to hate us. Their biphobia always ends up ironically swinging right back around to homophobia, like the idea that bisexuals can "choose" who to fall in love with (oh, so lesbians can just "choose" not to fall in love with another woman and avoid homophobia, then?) or that it's fine for bisexuals to deny and hide our sexuality (oh, so lesbians can just stay closeted and then not be oppressed at all, then?) or that the only real oppression by straight people is down to who you partner and have sex with (oh, so lesbians aren't ever oppressed for being individual lesbians, and only are oppressed when they get girlfriends?) etc that is nothing but victim-blaming and a denial of the most obvious reality.
But then we talk about this, and the answer is, "Bisexuals talk over everyone all the time and make everything about themselves!" when they show, every single day, that whenever a bisexual talks on their own blog about their own issues, not bothering anyone else, even that's too much for them to handle and they have to shut it down because they're so used to any discussion of sexuality-based oppression being about them, and they get right into their egotistical, me-me-me feelings that if they can't relate entirely to what a bisexual is saying, then it's somehow "oppressive," but at the same time, they constantly tell us that we can't relate to them and we still have to shut up.
Reading through Anything That Moves, published 30 years ago, shows the exact same issues that we're having right now, well before there was an excuse of saying, "Oh, the bisexuals are behind all the TRA homophobia!" (right until they see blatant biphobia from TRAs and then still can't help but ignore the biphobia to make it all about themselves.)
Nobody cares about us but ourselves. Our actual allies are very few and far between. I have plenty of monosexual followers who do absolutely nothing to support us. Barely a like, hardly ever a reblog, compared to the straights who will run to talk about how terrible homophobia is, but stay silent about biphobia to then support being biphobic for another sweet taste of enjoying their oppressor status right out in the open, where no one is calling them out for it.
What use are they?
Bisexuals are expected to prioritise lesbians, because if we ever have the audacity to simply focus on our own issues and raise our own group's consciousness, that's attacked and vilified as evil and homophobic. Imagine that: doing nothing homophobic at all, but speaking about ourselves and caring about our group first is an automatic sign of bigotry. Which other oppressed minority group is hated to that extent, who also isn't allowed to define our own oppression and is called "abusive" or "manipulative" for standing up and creating and enforcing our own boundaries?
This space is full of nothing but misogynistic hypocrites who have migrated from TRA spaces to use the label "feminist" like that makes them superior to others, who love being misogynistic to the "right" group of women, who fail the first understanding of misogyny to blame bisexual women for the evils that men do, who use lesbians and homosexuality as a shield to hide behind their bigotry, who fetishise lesbians to a creepy, disgusting extent, who fake understanding what oppression is to pretend to be smart and then obsessively talk over an oppressed group, who are more than happy to defend straight oppressors, who are more than happy to defend male oppressors, who are more than happy to absolve rape-promoting TIMs to abuse innocent women instead, who lie about what homophobic TIMs and TIFs want and deny straight-out fetishistic homophobia for no other purpose but to attack bisexual women, who deify Dworkin but make sure not to touch her bisexuality, who claim to hate how women's history is erased by men and then rush to erase bisexual women's history, who hate the silencing of women but who love silencing bisexual women, and I could go on.
There is so much misogyny towards "handmaidens," women who are simply brainwashed by patriarchy and female socialisation, women who really do think that they're doing the right thing even though they end up harming themselves and other women, attacked and abused and laughed at for something that we all know is down to how women are abused with misogyny from the moment that her parents know they're going to have a little girl, but the truth is that the only "handmaidens" I see are the bisexual women who have been exposed to the truth about biphobia, who have seen the statistics when it comes to biphobia, who have witnessed biphobia, who know and understand what oppression in general is and know what bisexuality is and then still decide, with all that knowledge, that they would rather join in with that biphobia, minimise biphobia and virtue-signal for biphobes that they're #NotLikeOtherBisexuals to selfishly try and protect themselves on that thinnest of ice while deliberately throwing the rest of us under the bus.
I have tried being gentle. I've tried being reasonable. I've tried sharing science. I've tried sharing personal experience. I've tried everything, and none of it works, so why should I or any other bisexual be trapped by tone-policing biphobes that will do everything to attempt to enforce our silence? No. Not happening. Not putting up with that anymore.
I have been so naive and wanted to convince myself that the majority of biphobia was down to little more than accidental ignorance. I still think that there are biphobes who are and promote biphobia because they're ignorant, and if they want to learn more or have reasonable, good faith conversations, then I will absolutely support them in that because that helps bisexuals in general. But no, most of it isn't accidental ignorance. Most of it is deliberate, malicious biphobia down to nothing more than very real, very deliberate and chosen hatred of us.
At this point, as far as I am concerned, allies are either allies supporting us as bisexuals openly, who stand with us to help us face the ire of biphobes, or they are useless to me and as bad as the biphobes that they are silent against. They don't have to fear and risk internalising that biphobic hatred, but that's too much for them? Fuck that. This is our lives we're talking about, and they're too scared to stand up to a biphobe? A straight person too scared to say anything against a straight biphobe online? A lesbian too scared to say anything against a lesbian biphobe online? When bisexuals are always standing against homophobic bisexuals?
Who needs that cowardice? Who needs that spinelessness? Because I certainly don't.
I pity the bisexuals with such internalised biphobia that they choose to be the actual "handmaidens," but the truth is that in this space, they're the only bisexuals with voices who are "listened to," and that's only because they're useful tools to attack the rest of us with. They can either grow some spine, join with us and learn to break that internalised biphobia, or they can shut their mouths entirely and let bisexuals with self-respect and boundaries do the talking.
That's where I am right now.
#crocodilian answers#Excuse that long rant lol#but I'm just...#No more presumption of ignorance unless it's someone coming and asking a question in good faith or being confused#All monosexuals are biphobic and not to be trusted until they prove themselves otherwise
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yall shouldnt be surprised when i can give you a dictionary length book full of just story titles of mlm stories written by cis straight women ive seen not looking for them, but can count on my hands and toes all of the (male character) x male reader stories ive found while looking for them.
its all fun and games until i also tell you, hey, theres even less (girl character) x girl readers, or just wlw stories at all. It’s starting to sound a lot like fetishization.
im not saying you cant write mlm stories as a cis straight woman- obviously not. part of being a writer is writing stories far from your own personal experience. It’s just like what we call bad representation. those people (very flamboyent gay men specifically) do exist, but they are the only gay men every shown because they fit comfortably into hetero-safe stereoypes.
if you only write mlm stories, and youre not an mlm yourself, and you always have the same heteronormative dynamic (one uwu twink sassy girlboss and the alpha badboy in detention who coUldNt bE gAY, hE plAyS FoOtbAlL anD hAz MeAn GiRlFwIeND- but thats all an act? like geez, just say ur biphobic and ask random gay men to be ur gay best friend??) it just starts to lead me to the conclusion you dont have the queer community in your best interest.
honestly, the fetishization is disgusting. it reinforces already harmful stereotypes. Also, I have never, and I mean NEVER- found a mlm story about a trans man in love with another man that wasnt practically porn without plot, save for one kiribaku fic that i wish i could find again. That definitely does not put us trans men in a wonderful light. we are not to be sexualized for our bodies, and neither us nor mlm should be fetishized for loving.
if youre unsure you can accurately write a queer love story accurately, do not do it. if youre worried at all it will come off bad on the lgbtqia+ community, do not do it. it will not hurt you if it’s bad rep, but it will hurt us.
are you good at writing queer romance as a straight person but notice that you have an odd amount of mlm & straight romance and an abandoned desert for wlw or trans/nonbinary love stories? write some! we really need it!
also, there are not enough people of color in stories in general. i notice that a lot of the time, they’re shoved off as one of the side characters- at most, a best friend. why? well, we know why, its racism, but why in my fanfiction. like, this fanfiction was so good, until i realized every single character was described as a western/eurapean with white skin, when, listen, this is an anime and they’re all japanese, jessica. although it’s not something i can speak in depth about as a very white pasty mf, it’s something ive definately noticed and its very annoying tbh. all these mcs look the same. give me some actual people please.
speaking of actual people!
why are there no chubby mcs? ever? like wtf? i get it, skinny people aesthetic or whatever, but it’s actually so frustrating when every character is a size 0 and an unrealistic representation of average people, despite usually starting out as ‘average’. I’d like to feel good about my stomach instead of comparing it to a paragraph in a fanfiction.
finally, ive gotten to something good!
wlw stories are finally getting as mainstream as mlm! not there yet, but it makes me smile every time i see a wlw story on my feed cuz it means were getting there :)
all-in-all, this is the reason I stopped reading fanfiction regularly a while ago.
this time two-five years ago, you couldn’t pull me away from the fanfiction. I would read main characters (women) who were only ever ‘tomboy’ enough to fall into a safe view of heteronormativity that I held. I’d never even seen the word transgender until middle school- and because my entire life I was conditioned to believe that that stuff was weird or gross, I rejected it hard.
It took me years to get to where I am, and it was a huge struggle. Not that this is one fanfiction/story writer’s fault. This is an entire community’s fault. I just dont want the next generation of queer, chubby, or poc kids to think they’re weird or lesser than like I did. If it’s something I can help to stop, I will.
So, if I ever write an original story, or original characters into a fic, you bet your ass its gonna be the most realistic representation of the real world i can get into a story. now, fuck jk rowling, and have a good night. au revoir, bitches.
#fanfic#wattpad#representation#writers#ocs#oc#make your stories diverse damnit#kiribaku did it fine#why cant you#trans#transgender#mlm#dont fetishize gay people#wlw#nonbinary#nonbinary representation#queer representation#poc representation#poc#fanfiction discourse
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