#lost legends: the rise of flynn rider

[yourmajestybee]

Introduction Post!

What’s this blog about?:

| This blog is about the Rise of The Brave Tangled Dragons, Rise of the Brave Tangled dragons otherwise known as Rotbtd or the Big Four is a crossover fandom of the movies: Rise of the guardians, Brave, Tangled, & How to train your Dragon

(If you want more info about this I suggest the YouTuber Izzzyzzz’s video on it)

What will be posted?:

| I will be posting art, edits and text posts plus links to any fics I may make! I won’t be reposting

Who is Andy?:

| Andy is a character from Lost Legends: The Rise of Flynn Rider a book about Eugene Fitzherbert’s (from tangled) childhood and the path that led him down to thievery. This is an amazing book and even better audio book and I would be happy to share the audio book with anyone that wants to listen to it!!!

Why do you use she/her for Hiccup?

| I headcannon Hiccup as a trans girl

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How far I’ve gotten:

Rotg, brave, almost all tangled ( -Rapunzel and the lost lagoon, Rapunzel and the vanishing village & What once was mine), On season 5 dragon’s edge for httyd

Ships!:

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Rapunzel and Merida: Meripunzel

Hiccup and Astrid: Hiccastrid

Varian and Hugo: Varigo

Eugene and Andy: Eugandy

Stoick and Gobber: Gobbick/Stobber

Toothiana and Bunnymund: Sweet tooth

Nicholas St. North and Bunnymund: Eggnog

Fishlegs and Snotlout: Fishlout

Ruffnut and Heather: Ruffer

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National holidays/j that will be celebrated here:

February 29: Hiccup’s birthday!!

March 24 (fannon) : Varian’s birthday!!

20/21 June (not cannon): Rapunzel’s birthday!

November 22: Jack’s birthday!!

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March 21: How to train your Dragon anniversary

June 22: Brave anniversary

November 21: Rotg anniversary

November 24: Tangled anniversary

Merida doesn’t have a cannon birthday form what I can find and no one can seem to agree on a fannon one ! :(

[qualitymoonsuit]

This afternoon, I finished reading The Godhead Complex, by James Dashner. I'm now reading the 14th overall and 1st of 3 books by Jen Calonita that I got for my 34th birthday. It is called Lost Legends: The Rise of Flynn Rider.

[nevinslibrary]

Totally Youthful Tuesday

How did Eugene Fitzherbert become Flynn Rider? This book tells that tale in a ton of awesome detail. It’s also the first in a series of books about Disney’s male heroes (there is quite a lot about the princesses out there, so, this series makes sense too).

Eugene lives in an orphanage. And it’s not a bad place, but, he really wants to find his home, find his family. So, when a mysterious sort of Circus arrives, he and his best friend Lance decide to join it. But, not is all as it seems in the circus. Can the two boys be heroes and live up to the Flynnigan Rider of the books that Eugene loves so much?

It was such a fun look at the ‘before’ of a ‘Disney Prince’. And I’m definitely looking forward to the Aladdin, Kristoff, and I think a Hercules one is coming out soon too. Very exciting.

You may like this book If you Liked: Story Thieves by James Riley, The Accidental Apprentice by Amanda Foody, or Adventure Time by Paul Tobin

The Rise of Flynn Rider by Jen Calonita

[whiskyarts]

any thoughts about eugene/lance and the stabbingtons (and maybe stalyan?) when they were younger…….ur stabbingtons content intetests me im curious about how you’d interpret that dynamic….i would also just LOVE to see how u draw lance im so desperate for content of him and i think hed look so good in ur style 😭

Oh my god I'm so totally normal about them ALL. So sorry if this reply is really long lmao

I'll be honest, I Did Not Give A Shit about the Stabbingtons as anything more than a plot device to make Eugene's life harder until a friend said "Sideburns Stabbington trans" and that perfectly lines up with my philosophy that "the only people with sideburns are transmascs and JSchlatt" (/j) which made me actually think about them more, lol. THEN, I read the Lost Legends book, The Rise of Flynn Rider and y'all it was all over for me after that. The Stabbingtons are carnies that worked at The Baron's circus, and like, my love for anything clown, circus, and carnival related grabbed my by the fuckin throat and there was no coming back from that one sjsskssk

So most of my HCs about the group come from that book specifically, which takes place when Eugene is 12 (almost 13) years old! Lance is the same age, and the Stabbies are "a little bit older".

Without going into a synopsis of the whole book and trying to stay on topic, Lance and Eugene met the Stabbingtons after joining The Baron's traveling circus. They also met Stalyan during that time, and Eugene specifically described her as "the only girl he'd ever met who wore pants" lol

And with that, here's some HCs lol

Despite Lance and Eugene being super close, I don't think they were all ever friends, moreso just working for the same people and working together when it was convenient outside of that. (ie, they all worked for The Baron at some point, but in the movie Eugene works with the Stabbies outside of that)

Sometime in their teen years, the guys all tried stuff together, like, "experimenting" with their sexualities for lack of a better term. Horny teens, lol.

Lance and Eugene dated for a while at some point, but eventually realized they weren't really into each other romantically or sexually, and would rather just be friends!

The Stabbingtons are 100% the type of guys that would do some gay shit, then call Eugene or Lance a slur for doing the exact same thing (wow, they're gay AND homophobic! /j)

Stalyan and Eugene dated on and off for YEARS like that one prep/jock couple from highschool that you never know when they're together or not because one of them will talk about marriage while the other says they're "taking a break"

I'm too eepy to be more coherent and this post is already so long but I have so many thoughts about The Rise of Flynn Rider, and the Stabbingtons specifically dskjfhdjksf like how the book straight up tells us how Eugene's mom died, and gives us small stuff that I'm latching onto so hard like where Lance got the name Lance Strongbow, and part of why Patchy doesn't talk, and that he likes the color green dfgdfgf

(also i prommy i'll draw lance just for u)

[stephending]

I'd like to add (though I know nothing of what the people think happens in Vat7k) that in The Lost Legends: The Rise of Flynn Rider

There is a kid named Hugo

I haven't finished the book let alone be done halfway but this is the only mention of him

Anyways have that as you will!

are you of the opinion that hugo and eugene know each other before 7k

Yes Yes Yes I love this idea with all my life

Lance, Eugene and Hugo met in the orphanage and they were actually good friends, then there was a fire in the orphanage that made them take separated ways except for lance and eugene who were able to get out together because together they couldn't found hugo anywhere, years later hugo and eugene meet again as thieves and pull a job together, but it sucks because they aren't the same they were anymore, hugo is a little shit now so he ends up betraying eugene lol, they don't see each other again until varian returns to corona with hugo and their reunion is soo funny because Eugene wants to strangle Hugo to death while Lance is just happy to see the guy

[silverhart-makes-art]

Here's my take on Vedis from 'The Rise of Flynn Rider'.

This was quite a challenge - coming up with something totally unique yet still feeling like the Brotherhood. I was tinkering with stuff even after I finished the coloring. I knew going in he had to be large, muscled, and blue eyed, with the Brotherhood tattoo on his bicep, as per the description in the book. After some experimenting I decided on giving him a beard, deep-set eyes, a pear shape, and to incorporate a lot of circles. I figure using circles would set him apart from the rest of the Brotherhood, which are a lot of squares, teardrop and triangle shapes.

For Dark Kingdom Vedis, I incorporated a lot of the Dark Kingdom style - fur, belts, leather, facial hair, dark hair worn long. I made him a longbowman, as I feel like a ranged warrior would round out the group nicely. And I just find the idea of a big, hulking guy forgoing sword and axe, to riddle his enemies with arrows quite amusing. For some reason I pictured him as a few years older than the Brotherhood we meet in the series. I really wanted to give Brotherhood Vedis a slightly shady look. Like maybe there's a reason we never saw him with the rest of the Brotherhood. I mean, would you trust a man who trains captive animals for a ring of criminals? He also just blabbed to the Baron about the moonstone, the thing that he swore to defend, even at the risk of being controlled by the Mind Trap. Gotta love the idea of a shady Vedis who betrays the Brotherhood, and runs off to join a circus. Unfortunately the final pose came out stiff, but I'm blaming that on my sore shoulder.

The Vedis Eugene meets in the book I designed to be more world weary. Still a bit shady, but the book describes his voice as deep, yet soft, so I leaned into that with the pose. He's discarded every scrap of his old life: cut his hair shorter, forgone the fur and leather. He sports a brand new scar which I'm sure has a great story behind it. I kept his attire simple - perhaps trying to avoid too much attention for some reason. He's a bit more grizzled, and with more of a slouch, and a bit more kindness around his eyes. I read into him being very regretful over the Dark Kingdom, but it seems to me the wound goes a bit deeper than losing one's home. It's pure speculation, but again ties into my idea that he did not leave the Dark Kingdom on good terms, and is sorry for it.

Just the idea of Vedis - a knight fallen from grace, who winds up joining the circus with a criminal ringmaster and his gang of thugs - I would pay money for that story! That's such a good concept for a character. And pairing him up with a couple of kids like Eugene and Lance - what an absolutely fun adventure that would've been! Where is my story of a grumpy knight-turned-circus-conman taking two orphan would-be thieves under his wing as they try to discover the secrets of his shady past? Like I want to see twenty chapters of Vedis loudly complaining about these two kids, and then at the very end when the Baron tries to kill the annoying pipsqueaks, Vedis takes a stand, and finally does the right thing in his life, and reveals that he has all this knightly training and can actually give the Baron a real run for his money while Eugene and Lance set up the Biggest Con of the Century (and also manage to save Vedis, and he won’t say it, but he’s secretly very proud). I'm sorry, Vedis. You deserve your own story, bud.

@pennumbra’s Vedis design is also amazing, and I kind of wish I could have borrowed some elements from it. The sketch for Brotherhood Vedis looks especially cool.

[kazoosandfannypacks]

Ahhhhh they both came today!!!

It's weird tho because the flynn rider book says it's a proof copy that's not actually for sale, so.... Either way, excited to get reading!

[top-blondie]

Not to put all my eggs in one basket but the author of Eugene’s story really saw the crumbs we got in TTS and went:

[varian-is-the-best]

Well, there would be Eugene's mother, but she's dead.

Then there is Vedis from Lost Legends: The Rise of Flynn Rider.

hi tumblr. does anyone know any characters besides the brotherhood, eugene, and varian that are associated with the dark kingdom

i���m making an animatic and i need one more person :]

[phillipdiffy]

12 year old Flynn found the tower and could've saved Rapunzel years earlier agdgajakak

[tangledbea]

Lost Legends: The Rise of Flynn Rider (Disney's Lost Legends) Hardcover – September 21, 2021

[rachelbethhines]

Tangled Bonus Marathon - Introduction

By popular demand, I'll be conducting a "bonus" marathon of selected spin off material connected to the show and movie. Now this is not everything, obviously, but I'll be touching upon some of the highlights and doing brief reviews of some of the more out there things.

This will be a far shorter review series, both in terms of the amount of stuff I'll be covering and the length of the reviews themselves.

It'll also be a far less salt filled review series as well. I'll be discovering most of this material for the first time and just giving my general thoughts and impressions. I'll also be sharing a few surprise 'gifts' for the fandom at large as we go along.

Now here is the working list so far, and can be subject to change.

1. Tangled (Novelization)

2. Villians: Mother Knows Best (Novel/E-book)

3. Before Ever After (Novelization)

4. The Lost Lagoon (Novel)

5. Adventure is Calling (Comic Collection)

6. Tales of Rapunzel - Secrets Unlocked (Novelization)

7. Let Down Your Hair (Comic Collection)

8. Tales of Rapunzel - Opposites Attract (Novelization)

9. Hair-Raising Adventures (Comic Collection)

10. Lost Legends: The Rise of Flynn Rider (Novel/Audiobook)

11. Hair & Now (Comic Collection)

12. Queen for a Day (Novelization)

13. Rapunzel's Guide to All Things Creative and Fun (Activity book)

14. Tales of Rapunzel - Friends and Enemies (Novelization)

15. Friendship Mix-Up (Graphic Novel)

16. The Way of the Willow (Novelization/Audiobook)

17. How To Write A Story (Graphic Novel)

18. The Wrath of Ruthless Ruth (Novelization/Audiobook)

19. Inside the Journal (Shorts)

20. Mixed Up Moods (Novelization/Audiobook)

21. Tales of Rapunzel - Search for the Sundrop (Novelization)

22. My First Year As A Princess (Journal Recreation)

23. Secrect of the Sundrop (The Unofficial Novelization)

24. Art and Adventures (Coloring Book)

25. The Vanishing Village (novel)

26. The Official Tangled Art Book (and the unofficial series art book, if I can)

27. Rapunzel's Royal Wedding: Best Wedding Day Ever (Novelization/E-book)

28. Varian and the Seven Kingdoms (Outline & Pitch)

29. Twisted Tales - What Once Was Mine (Novel/Audiobook)

30. The Unofficial Tangled Cook Book (Recipe Collection)

Now this is subject to change, I may add or delete things as I go along, but this is the working list for now.

Think I'm missing something? Add a comment.

In the meantime I'll be hosting a streaming marathon over on the discord every Thursday day night at 9PM EST while the review marathon is going so fill free to check that out as well.

[qualitymoonsuit]

I just finished reading Lost Legends: The Rise of Flynn Rider, by Jen Calonita.

[starlightmeadowbloom]

Catalina in the Bad Guys AU

Disneyfriend - Catalina from The Bad Guys: The Black Diamond of the Legendary Wolf

I was following your prescription but most of the time I had to improvise since you didn’t specify in which position a bow (I had to put them at end of those plaits since I can’t imagine a big bow on her head like Minnie unless its headband with a small bow, after all, she is 12 not 6, sorry Eloise reference) or which side is a wristband, or red ribbon or badge, but considering she is right-handed then most of those things would on the left side while the badge would be on the right side. It’s something that I noticed (fun fact did you noticed that Wolf is actually ambidextrous, mostly left-handed?). Anyway, this is a rough sketch, if there is something I should fix, then tell me and I will redraw it, but if you are okay with it, then I’ll recolor it and send it to you on Tumblr. What do you think for now?

Here is the colored version just as you wanted. The only I changed about her was, that I gave her Lance’s earring (I found this ideal after reading Lost Legends: The Rise of Flynn Rider) as something important to her like Kiera’s leaf necklace since it belonged to two people close to her heart. Hope you don’t mind😅 Good luck in the next chapter. Can’t wait to see it.😉

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This was drawn by Disneyfriend and I don’t know what to say, I was so shock and happy at the same time, this actually took my breath away and I so happy.

It was submitted by Disneyfriend who is an anon, wherever you are thank you so much. please color it in since this is actually so perfect that it doesn’t need to be redrawn for while.

and

I just find that Disneyfriend is the friend who gave me those fantastic ideas for my bad guys au story and I can’t believe that they made this again for me with colour this time.

Disneyfirend, you are the best. If you have time, maybe you should have your own Tumblr, Instagram, and DevianArt, and show everyone your work of wonder.

[erazonpo3]

Lost Legends

Okay so I read Lost Legends: The Rise of Flynn Rider and general thoughts? It was cute and fun, and I have gripes here and there but I can still recommend it. I don't want to compare it to WOWM because it's like apples and oranges but Lost Legends wins points for me by actually acknowledging the TTS storyline and characters, even though it's kinda brief and not quite as... entertaining.

And before I go into the in-depth spoiler review I'll jot down a few thoughts here: there's a lot to be said about tie-in media and 'canon', but where I think it becomes contentious is where two pieces contradict each other, and whether those contradictions necessitate a canonical hierarchy or cancel something out completely. And the reason I'm bringing this up is because while LL borrows TTS lore it also contradicts it? which is. ironic.

but i'll get into that. Spoilers ahead

Basic Summary of The Plot

Our story starts at the Dark Kingdom, with a short prologue. It's all stuff we already know from the series: King Edmund tries to grab the moonstone, his wife dies, Eugene gets sent away for his own safety. What's funny is that Ms Queen still doesn't get a name, but her Lady in Waiting/Handmaiden gets a name (Maeve), and it's Maeve who really drops the ball on dropping Eugene off at an orphanage instead of raising him as Prince Horace. Go girl give us nothing

And from here the LL timeline begins, as Eugene and Arnie are now twelve year olds (I think?) in an orphanage in Corona. Which is the first contradiction to 'canon' but shelve that thought for now. Eugene and Arnie are good little boys but they're getting too old to keep hanging around and the orphanage needs money for the evil Tax Man, so they decide they'll go off into the world and send some money back when they're rich off their famous adventuring. What happens instead is that The Baron's circus rolls into town (yes that Baron) and Eugene and Arnie decide to try their luck signing up for that gig.

To prove themselves to the Baron, Flynn and Lance have to perform a hazing ritual a heist. The heist is literally just to buy a key from the Weasel but it plays out as this huge dramatic thing with a guard chase which is eternally funny to me because two kids walk into a bar, buy a key and then leave, and it's treated like fucking ocean's eleven. The Stabbingtons try to betray them (those guys are here too) but Flynn and Lance outsmart them, beginning a rivalry for the ages. Also, the pub thugs are all part of the Baron's circus crew. Don't think about it too much.

Anyway, as this has all been going down, Eugene is really interested in getting to talk to this guy with a tattoo of (what we as the audience know is) the brotherhood symbol, which Eugene recognises from the note left with him as a baby. He wants to talk to this dude in the hopes he'll get a clue about who his parents are, but this dude keeps eluding him. He also hasn't had a chance to tell Lance about this yet, so when Lance finds out about it he assumes Eugene only tried to rope him into the circus so he could find his parents and ditch him. Cue an ongoing silent treatment.

Eugene eventually does talk to this guy and he learns that the Brotherhood symbol is from the Dark Kingdom but the Dark Kingdom is gone so he shouldn't bother looking for it. Bummer. And now the Baron is planning a huge heist of the reward money for the Lost Princess' return, and Eugene is getting cold feet. He's been okay with a little bit of thievery so far but this feels like too much for him, and he's not okay with pulling it off but Lance still won't talk to him.

As the plan unfolds, Lance and Eugene reconcile and then they work together to betray the Baron and return the stolen treasure that they stole back to the King and Queen. They get caught by the Baron, escape, then get caught by the guards, but it's okay because they're presented to the King and Queen and when Eugene explains that they felt really sorry about it and promise not to do it again they're let go. And so the story ends on a high note.

My Thots™

Okay so here are the thoughts

Canon Compliance?

The obvious takeaway here is that this story offers you a beautiful pie in the form of the characters you know and love and the established lore, then shoves the pie in your face with things like "Eugene already knows the Dark Kingdom and the Moonstone exist but he never brings this up" and "Eugene betrays the Baron in a very significant way but somehow they'll make up and he and Stalyan will get engaged". Which means that if the integrity of the series is important to you, you'll probably just mentally cross out Eugene knowing about the Brohood/DK/Moonstone.

And imo that's fine! My own approach to this story is a kind of general 'if it works it works, if it doesn't I'll leave it' thing to work my own headcanons around. Because there's a lot of fun things to pluck from, like a new ex-Brotherhood member and other characters that could pop up from Eugene's past and other worldbuilding details.

The Story

The story was pretty short and obviously very tailored towards a younger audience, but it still felt kind of... slow? Mostly because nothing particularly exciting is happening until the big heist and even that feels pretty underwhelming. And of course I don't expect a story like this to be particularly complex and can appreciate its simplicity, but I felt like if it had been longer there could have been more twists to keep things interesting.

For example, the Baron is set up as a character not unlike Gothel, who lavishes praise upon the boys and goes on about how they're 'family' but is obviously just manipulating them and would throw them to the wolves in a heartbeat. Eugene underestimates just how criminal the Baron is, but at no point in the story does the doubt we have in the Baron's sincerity ever amount to anything- Eugene only turns against him because he has a morality crisis, which I'll get to in a minute.

Misc. Thoughts

Okay so one thing I thought was really cute was that each chapter has a little 'quote' from a Flynnigan Rider book, and I wrote them all down so if you've read this far and want me to post those separately lemme know. Anyway I just thought it was a very cute touch.

An honourable mention goes to every time Stalyan shows up, she doesn't really do anything in the story yet still is somehow the only character holding the brain cell. Rapunzel gets an indirect cameo by Lance and Eugene stumbling upon her tower and going "Whoa that's Crazy. Anyway. " which is amazing, and Cassandra even gets a little mention by the Captain! And to answer the question nobody asked, there's a chameleon running around Corona because she's an escapee from the circus, and Pascal's mom's name is Amélie!

Characters - okay really just Eugene

Eugene/Flynn is the title character of the book and we get the story exclusively from his POV, so there isn't a lot to say about Lance. On the one hand while I can acknowledge that this is a story about Flynn, not Lance, there's a few choices that feel like a missed opportunity at best given that this book really was an opportunity to explore Lance's character in a way the series never really does.

And it feels extra egregious when the plot demands conflict between Eugene and Lance, because while the emotion between them is engaging when it's happening, at other times it just feels like a convenient way to shove Lance offscreen again. (As a side note, as contrived as the conflict is these are also two twelve year old boys so. Can't blame em too much).

Also, Eugene coming up with the name "Lance Strongbow" on Lance's behalf while he's unconscious is one of those backstory things I'm not going to be acknowledging, thank you.

The Robin Hood Dilemma

Something I touched on after reading What Once Was Mine is that Eugene's characterisation prior to the movie isn't something writers seem to really like... dealing with. And it kind of makes sense that the author received a lot of characterisation notes from Chris Sonnenburg, because little Flynn does feel very similar to the Eugene we know; only the Eugene we know is an adult man who has since grown out of his Flynn Rider persona. But the Flynn Rider persona he needed to grow out of isn't something that ought to be cast aside entirely!! Stop being cowards!!

Taking a step back, the whole premise of the book is kind of a paradox- because Eugene needs to become Flynn Rider before he can learn to embrace his authentic self, but Flynn Rider isn't hero material, he isn't a good guy, he's not the right protagonist for a story for kids. So what we get isn't Flynn Rider, it's really just Eugene trying on a new name. That works for the beginning of the story, because he is just Eugene trying on a new name, but he doesn't grow into it.

At the beginning of the story, Eugene is an orphan in a poor but still functional orphanage run by a kind old lady, and he is surrounded by nice little boys. Eugene is motivated to leave and get a job by a desire to send funds back to the orphanage, and when he joins the Baron's circus he's taken aback to learn he's among thieves. Here's where I thought: okay, this might get interesting. We might be getting a G-rated 'angel falls from heaven' story about Eugene being morally corrupted by the Baron, of learning that the world outside is tough and he needs to look out for himself first and foremost-

but no. The Baron shares his plan to steal the reward money for the Lost Princess, because all the people he's surrounded himself with are already criminals who don't give a shit, but Eugene thinks that this is going too far! What about that poor lost princess who people need an incentive to search for? (he's like, projecting about his own parent issues which is fair, but still). And so the story ends with Eugene turning on the Baron to return the money to the "right" people (aka the king and queen of a kingdom?? okay) but he takes a single golden egg for himself so he can send it to the orphanage.

Which is all sweet and nice but. He still has to become Flynn Rider, asshole extraordinaire. He still has to lose his morals to the point where he'd take an inexperienced young woman to a pub that he, in this book, recognises is a dangerous place in the hopes that he can ditch her. He still has to go and become a wanted thief and rejoin the Baron and then ditch Stalyan on their wedding night.

The reason I'm going on about this so much is that the appeal of Eugene to me is that he is this good guy who wants to be a better person for the people he loves, but that means recognising that he has behaviour he needs to change, and his development is meaningful for that. Watering him down to a righteous Robin Hood hero does him a disservice.

The Real Villain Was Capitalism All Along

I will not elaborate nor should I

[mycove-art]

Have you heard of this book?

Lance is mentioned! Could it be that Disney is starting to take the series into account? *blink* *varian and the 7K* *blink*