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mrsblackruby · 2 years ago
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Loki spent a year with thanos after attempting to end his life and came back wanting to completely take over Midgard and Marvel just never addresses what happened in that period of time to make Loki want to rule a place he never wanted to rule in the first place
Marvel just confirmed he was being mind controlled💀
Edit: I forgot to clarify. When I say "Ragnarok", I'm talking about the Norwegian Netflix Series. NOT Thor: Ragnarok (2017) from Marvel.
You really can't trust Marvel to handle anything re: Loki's identity or any traumas associated w/ it while Ragnarok does the opposite and gets minimal praise for it comparatively. It's such a shame. Like, I don't care how anyone personally feels about the character. Here are The Facts:
Marvel never adequately addressed that Loki was stolen from the Jotnar as a baby, and that he was adopted into a society that hated Jotnar - that Loki has a complex relationship with his identity because of this and that Odin played the part of a genocidal warmonger far before Loki ever did.
Ragnarok explicitly identified 'Loki's' parentage as a complicated part of his identity, and they continued with this throughout the show. His inability to fit neatly into the 'god' or 'jotnar' categories results him being both used and discarded by both. "Odin" is not clearly a benevolent god who is always justified.
Marvel Loki's identity as a Jotun is rarely brought up ever again. Whereas it's a constant point of conflict for 'Loki' in Ragnarok, and actually he doesn't hate being a Jotun because it FINALLY explains why he feels different from everyone else AND 'Thor' tries to protect him despite his difference.
Marvel has "fluid" written under sex/gender for Loki, and gets monumental praise for it. They put in a throw away line about hAs AnYonE EvER sEen A FeMAle LokI soUnds TerrIFying or whatever which completely ignores the fact that Loki's gender is fluid, defeating the purpose of that "fluid" line.
Also, they make their Loki fall in love with a female variant of himself rather than commit to showing either in queer relationships, after another throw away comment about them both being bisexual. Like, there's a running theme of telling and not showing in Marvel and I hate it.
Ragnarok's 'Loki' dresses however they want, and he's in "women's clothes" and wearing makeup by like the second episode. He internalizes that his feminine appearance and dress makes him a freak, but he does it anyway AND his family supports him! They encourage him to be himself!
Also! He explicitly flirts with men. He explicitly says he doesn't care about gender and sexuality, not that they aren't important to him but they're not a barrier to him. He shows a wide range of complicated feelings towards his identity that are actually explored and taken seriously.
Marvel will NEVER do that in their MCU.
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god-of-mischief-here-tada · 2 months ago
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Loki had been banished to Midgard after the whole invasion thing, something about living on his own and learning that there was consequences to his actions. He would have no contact with Asgard or the royal family till Odin thought he learned his lessons.
Frigga managed to convince Odin to let Loki keep some of his abilities to use them for good and to protect himself along with others if he shall. Loki was angry of course that his seidr was being limited especially after everything that Odin had done to him. Loki had been destructive in his anger but once that wore off, he was sad and alone so he moped.
Once the trickster god got himself together, made himself a home, a garden, a barrier so nobody could bother him. Loki was pretty much cutting himself from the outside world and focusing on himself. The cabin was furnished to his liking and a reminder of home, not advanced like most homes were here on Midgard but he managed.
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microscotch · 11 months ago
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Girllll I've been spending my holidays with rereading Nobody's Home and I just wanted to ask, are Circe and Loki divorced? If so, what made you divorce them?
YUP the story is set post psp, and part of my backstory for the beakers is them getting a divorce!
so when looking at their relationship i tried to take everything into consideration that the pc and psp game gave to us. let me put a below the cut though so not everyone has to be witness to me inflicting the makings of chronic joint pain on myself:
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we know poor nervous died at one point. the implications from both games about how he came to be their test subject are quite conflicting, but i went with emily and annies claims that he signed up to be their test subject for money, as it, from my perspective, tied better into explaining their current situation and provided more detail in general as opposed to maxis' sloppy memory distribution.
with their first subject, the beakers could to some extent rest on the risk a job like this entails and neatly detail it in the contract they had nervous sign to avoid charges as much as possible. in addition to that, they were able to throw a lot of money at preventing the sensationalization of it, but it did come at a cost: 1) selling the castle to make up for it and 2) circe losing her license and the hospital ceasing any affiliation with her. cut to the sad little paradise place house and circe only being hinted at doing 'business' by that time:
left with a less extensive financial repertoire, loki is eager to do whatever it may take to get his precious castle back, and, once he invented something he believed to be a future gold mine, secured some secret patents that will net him millions (quote: circe). with loki, by her assumption, not being willing to share the profits with her, it makes sense for circe to be uneasy and distrustful about this, as the two are already on less safe ground, both in regards to finances and the law, and now he wants to keep all the money he'll be making to himself? her secret about harbouring some underlying resentment for loki's independence and distinction is also pretty convenient here and can be used as an implication that she wasn't as lucky as her husband, particularly regarding him not facing repercussions the same way she did. circe, on the other hand, is having an affair. while that was a product of mind control and not her fault, neither she or loki know that. all that is being revealed to loki is his wife cheating on him. this is where they're left at. depending on the string of dialogue, loki will say that if anyone moves out, it will be his wife, cause it's his house.
after thinking about it, circe would most likely move out immediately. after all of that happening inc. circes slap interaction loop, i can't see either of them comfortable spending even one more night at the same house together. while it is revealed at the end of the game that newlow was mindcontrolling the citizens, we don't know when and how fast these news will actively be passed along, what investigations are being led, etc. - point being, the trifecta of the beakers still being in each others presence, these news reaching them by that time and drawing the correct conclusions from it is the best case scenario but, after the considerations given above, not the most likely one. especially because there's an urgent issue that would capture their attention almost immediately after the game storyline is over: gimi branko. unlike nervous where they could rely on a contract, they literally kidnapped this guy and kept him locked up against his will, and someone had to save him aka he can press charges and tell everything in great detail, with a witness to top it off. they don't have the financial resources to buy themselves out of that anymore (loki's patents aside, but as of now he hasn't seen a cent of that and sure wouldn't consider his wife given recent events), the charges are more dire AND they're at odds with each other.
so i totally had them rat each other out, both hoping to get the lower charge by placing as much blame on the other person as possible. even if gimi being gone were the very first thing they noticed after being at each other's throat, judging by the way they already talked about each other before both their suspicions turned out to be true, there's way too much mutual distrust that built up over a long period of time for them to suck it up for the occasion and not prioritizing their own asses. and thats the end of the evil couple.
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god-of-mischief-here-tada · 3 months ago
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“If I had been impaled by something, it could have possibly happened and I’m the trickster god, I create mischief though it’s never been well liked. Thor is nothing but a lap dog to Odin, he’ll only listen to him and Odin believes that there’s no one stronger than the house of Odin.”
@askhawkybarton
Loki looked up from the cell floor “how in the norns did you get into Asgard? Odin doesn’t allow mortals here.” He said confused but didn’t bother to get up
Hawk rolled his eyes, leaning against the doorway of the cell Loki was currently laid out in. "Thor approved for all the Avengers to come up to Asgard. I think Daddy was gonna have a coniption fit, but your mom vouched for us. She's a nice lady - I like her."
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mthofferings2023 · 1 year ago
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bedlamsbard · 2 years ago
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Sometimes you just gotta, uh, flirt constantly with the idea of a brainwashing and kidnapping plot, always doing spins and variations on it, without ever quite doing a straightforward version of the core idea. Yknow?
I get way too sad every time I try to do actual brainwashing! Same reason I've never actually pulled off a true ~evil is sexy mirrorverse. like I definitely see the attraction (of both) and I understand why other writers do it and readers like it, but despite numerous attempts it is just Not For Bedlams. my characters are going to be fully aware the horrible shit they're doing is horrible. which is why I'll never go all the way with a Steve-is-the-Winter-Soldier or Natasha-is-Taskmaster AU, or go the Loki-was-mindcontrolled-in-NY route. I actually pulled back from going that far with Steve in Horizon literally while writing the rescue chapter and kept it as everyone's worst fear instead. (There's no alternate version of that sequence, but it was in the plotting mix well into writing that chapter and it was fully planned out into the next chapter as a potential route to take, which is why there's so much set-up for it throughout the story.)
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spn-in-2021 · 3 years ago
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wait its wild actually. 2012 loki just found out he’s a frost giant, his family isn’t his bio family, got mindcontrolled by the scepter and destroyed new york, got arrested but escaped with the help of future-avengers, got arrested again, and now he’s seeing his parents’ and his own death plus how he’s actually deeply loved by his family. insane
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Every friend group should have...
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Yes, the avengers are a friend group. insp.
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god-of-mischief-here-tada · 5 months ago
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“I’m well aware of things and how they work, you mortals couldn’t possibly understand the musing of gods and such. Thor just happens to like you mortals, consider yourself lucky, Odin could care less, he just didn’t want the Jotunn to have another realm.”
He then shrugged “literature, non fiction stuff really, knowledge is power after all.” He scratched at the collar again and shifted in his seat.
@dontcallmepepper
“Ms. Potts, what is the meaning of this visit? Surely you blame me as well for the invasion considering you are close to Son of Stark.” He asked from his cell in the tower
"Wanted to put a face to all of this chaos..." She kept her distance from the glass. She had an idea of what he was capable of, but didn't really know for sure. It was enough to make sure she kept away. Tony wouldn't like that she was down here. But she likes to form her own opinions, not relying on others'.
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lokiusficrecs · 3 years ago
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https://archiveofourown.org/works/33180379
Folded up under blankets as he recovers, struggling with the questions of how to fold his new identity into his understanding of himself, where Loki really wants to be is folded into the arms of the confused and hurting human who has saved his life... and whom he wants to save in return.
Author: Losyark
Rating: Teen and Up
Word Count: 6,595
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lokigodofaces · 5 years ago
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In Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. 2x12, Sif is sent to Earth because a Kree is there.
This is after Thor: The Dark World.
Sif was sent to Earth by Odin.
Loki was posing as Odin.
Loki worked with Thanos under duress to get the Tesseract and invade Earth.
Thanos also worked with Ronan the Accuser.
Ronan was a Kree.
There's a possibility Loki met Ronan.
Even if he didn't, Sif was very against the Kree because of Asgardian education. Loki would have recieved that same education, if not better.
Asgardian education focused on the Kree, since Sif is fluent in their language.
Which means Loki would've learned about Kree culture, beliefs, government, history, and wars.
Basically all evidence we have from the MCU in Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., Guardians of the Galaxy, and Captain Marvel is that the Kree are, in general, evil. In GotG, the Kree just finished a long war with the Nova Emperor. Ronan, though a radical, shows that the Kree saw everyone underneath them. Ronan wanted to destroy every other culture, most Kree are okay with the subjugation of the non-Kree. In Captain Marvel, the Kree are destroying the Skrulls, they are after the Tesseract, they kidnap a human and experimented on and brainwashed her, and tried to utterly destroy Earth. In AoS, the Kree went to Earth and experimented on dozens of humans to make living weapons for the Kree Army, as well as many things in season 5 that I just started so I don't know everything yet just that they took over the rest of humanity and have slaves (including Jemma) (please no spoilers). So, those with power were evil. Everyone else has only ever grown up in the Kree culture so they believe everything. And those like Mar-Vel and Carol who disagree, the Kree attempt to kill.
Loki would have known all of this.
Loki sent Sif, one of Asgard's best warriors, to protect the planet he tried to conquer under duress from a single Kree because he knows how much of a threat the Kree are. While Sif told Coulson in season 1 that the Kree have never been to Earth, due to his experience outside of Asgard with Thanos and possibly meeting Ronan or other Kree, Loki may have learned of the Krees' involvement with the Inhumans and Captain Marvel, so he could've known Earth has already been a target of the Krees' so if a Kree comes to Earth, Earth is in serious danger. So despite everything that happened to him on Earth, Loki protected Earth from a race of aliens that are a threat to everyone. He could've stayed out of it, but he didn't. He protected Earth by sending Sif because Odin would never go himself and he had to pose as Odin.
But if S.H.I.E.L.D. hadn't been able to help Sif and she had stayed without her memory, I would not be surprised if Loki came himself to stop the Kree.
Also, the Kree who Sif came to stop was trying to stop Inhumans. Inhumans are seen as different from the rest of humanity (which ain't wrong but they're mainly human), just as Jotuns are looked down upon, as Loki is. I bet Loki would've supported Inhumans and not straight up try to kill Skye like Sif did.
As a side note, Sif was also sent to stop Lorelei, an Asgardian sorceress that can mind control males and was imprisoned on Asgard. She escaped and went to Earth. Sif was sent by "Odin" to recapture her.
As a sorcerer, Loki would understand how dangerous Lorelei is, so he made it a priority. He sent Sif. Yes, Sif is female so she wouldn't be affected, but I'd argue that since Thor is gone she is now Asgard's best warrior. So not only did Loki send a female warrior, he sent Asgard's best warrior.
For a guy that tried to take over he really does try to protect the planet from cosmic forces.
And since I firmly believe Loki was under duress or mind controlled or somewhere between in Avengers, I think this is more evidence despite him never being in Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. and the only time I can think of him being mentioned he's not even mentioned by name (Coulson says he was stabbed by a pale Mussolini or something like that before we know what Project T.A.H.I.T.I. is), Loki is very much protecting the planet.
He's guilty over what he did for Thanos.
He's trying to make it right the best he can.
And that's protecting the Tesseract on Asgard, giving the Aether to the Collector to keep it safe, and protecting the planet that suffered the most because of him.
Gosh, I love Loki.
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glorioustidalwavedefendor · 6 months ago
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Quick answer, because Russos, McFeely and Markus wanted to pair Thor with GOTG, which they’ve said in an interview.
That is fucking rediculous
Like they could have Thor with teh guardians and just stuck Loki with the avengers
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I mean a lot of us would have loved to see him as an honorable avenger
Also that would have been interesting
Clint is angry at him for mindcontroling him
Natsha is deffinitely angry at him becasue of Clint and maybe becasue of Coulson not sure if she would hold against him what was said during the intarogation ... she also doesn't seem to hold a grudge about the fact that Bucky shot her ... so yeah ... there is some interesting character work to be done here
Tony is angry becasue Loki invaded his city, from his tower ... and also becasue Coulson and becasue of teh window thing
No idea if Bruce has any feelings on teh mater
Steve is propably vaguely angry becasue of Coulson
There is tons of story in there
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notanotherloki · 3 years ago
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OK I'm going on a road-trip tomorrow and this week is the finale of Loki -- I'm feeling nostalgic as fuck and want something to read so everyone hit me with those classic Loki fic links
no ships, just good vibes and some Therapy for our boy
- Mod Sapphire
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justarandomgirly · 3 years ago
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You know why so many despite official confirmation ignore this?
Because this is their only leverage.
If you take 'but Loki killed 80 people in 3 days' out of the equasion, suddenly, people who defend Loki's abusers with "but Loki hurt people so he deserves this" lose the only card they hold. And they are left with realization, that Loki was being humiliated & hurt & mocked & beaten up FOR NO REASON, while they sat back, enjoyed it,laughed, even defended the writers and why Loki actually deserves this.
If you realize he didnt deserve it, you face the fact you were on the side of abusers, laughing at the victim of abuse, supporting it even. Aka that you are a piece of shit.
And people dont like admitting that,do they? So its easier to just keep saying "neh he enjoyed it" and laugh at Sif kicking him into balls or Mobius emotionaly breaking him because "it was for his own good".
And btw Tom said this
But youre right. Loki is just spoiled & evil.
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autisticbats · 4 years ago
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isn’t loki technically 17? i think i remember hearing that somewhere. which means loki is 100% tony’s kid sorry not sorry
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glorioustidalwavedefendor · 2 months ago
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Wait ... is that ...
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It IS!
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That measn there was a scene of Loki getting teh scepter back ... AND I DIDN'T GET TO SEE IT?!
No fair!
I assume that would have made the whole mindstone mindcontroll connection to obvious ...
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never before seen behind-the-scenes * Loki
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