#lj folger

[darealsaltysam]

i actually love how snowpiercer had lj and oz get together like. yeah these two are utterly irredeemable lets just make them kiss neither of these people deserve better than each other

[yeerkyeerk]

Thinking today about how old LJ was when Eric "saved her". It was pre-departure, during boarding I think, and I wonder how that made her feel. Eric is in his 30s in the show by the looks of it, and he was a marine, which means he was at least 16+5(=21) when they boarded. It just has some. Yucky implications. And explains a lot about LJ to me.

[missaudreystiara]

For Reasons, I’m looking for good quotes from the following characters:

LJ

Javi

Dr Pelton

Roche

If anyone can assist, I’d be very grateful! 🖤

[ray-green-wicked4good]

Countdown to Valentine's Day with Snowpiercer & a Little Broadway

(a.k.a. My favorite Snowpiercer couples and the Broadway love songs I associate with them because it's February ❤)

Entry 9) Osweiller x LJ, "Something Good" from The Sound of Music

LJ: Perhaps I had a wicked childhood.

Osweiller: Perhaps I had a miserable youth.

LJ: But somewhere in my wicked, miserable past, there must have been a moment of truth. For here you are, standing there, loving me. Whether or not you should. So somewhere in my youth, or childhood. I must have done something good.

Osweiller: Nothing comes from nothing. Nothing ever could. So somewhere in my youth-

LJ: Or childhood.

Osweiller: I must have done something good. For here you are standing there, loving me. Whether or not you should.

LJ: So somewhere in my youth-

Osweiller: Or childhood.

LJ & Osweiller: I must have done something good.

[thenightmareofyourdrems]

               ˜”*°•.     Shadows .  Everything  could  happen  in  the  shadows ;  secret  schemes ,  whispers .  Wasn’t  it  interesting  ?  How  everyone  walked  to  class  every  single  day ,  did  the  same  exactly  things  over  and  over  again ,  only  to  then  go  their  separate  ways . Be themselves.  Some  would  gather  in  the  Common  Rooms ,  gossip,  whisper .  Some  would  opt  for  the  silence  of  the  library,  study  there  for  hours.  While  others  ?  They’d  break  the  rules  and  think  that  none  was  watching .  That  they  were  invisible  just  because  they  hadn’t  been  caught ,  yet.

Which  was  why  she’d  decided  to  follow  him .  Slytherins  spying  on  Slytherins ;  wasn’t  it  just  about  right ?  Rhaegar  one  that’d  caught  her  attention  ever  since  the  very  beginning  -  be  it  this  something  the  mysterious  dressing  him  whole  or  well ,  this  façade  of  perfection .  She  knew  that  costume  quite  well ,  after  all ;  her  own  family  was  pureblooded ,  rich ,  seemingly  perfect .  And  they  all  wore  the  same  exact  mask .

❝ What  were  you  doing  down  there  ?  ❞  Came  the  words  not  that  whispery  the  moment  the  other  crossed  the  secret door.

Muse Roulette @dragonthroned

[ruthiesrambles2]

Sharing clothes: re: the hospitality uniforms.

"Melanie?" Ruth begins, a little out breath.

None of the passengers she had passed on the way to the hospitality office would have seen anything amiss, a pleasant smile on her face and walking, never running, with purpose. The breathlessness the only sign thst Ruth had been rushing.

"What's the emergency? Tristan said-" she stopped as Melanie turned to face her. "Oh."

Melanie's face was serious as Ruth held back a laugh. Melanie's jacket lay discarded on the desk, evidently removed to assess the full damage of the large dark stain on an otherwise crisp white blouse.

"it's not funny, Ruth. This is my last shirt, laundry are days behind with uniforms and I was minding my own business when that - that - boy barrelled into me and sent my coffee flying! The next thing I know he's running out the door talking about how you'll know how to fix it and I -" Melanie let out a frustrated noise, "- I haven't got time for this!"

"Now Melanie, Tristan is a very nice young man and I'm sure he didn't -"

"Ruth!" Melanie gestured wildly at the still wet shirt that was now sticking to the skin below.

"Okay, okay!" Ruth conceded, marching to the drawers at the back of the room. "Let me think. Coffee... We need to blot it as much as we can. Draw out as much liquid as possible... Aha!"

With a triumphant smile she turned back to Melanie, holding out the large stack of napkins she had been searching for.

"The batch we recalled for the W being upside down. I guess we never got them restitched."

Melanie took one of the proffered pieces of cloth and dabbed at the large damp area on her chest.

"Be easier with it on a flat surface," Ruth mused. "And anyway, we'll need to run it under cold water next."

Melanie just stared in response.

"What? It'll be harder to get out if we leave it," Ruth offered.

"What am I supposed to wear in the meantime? I've got that meeting with the catering team about - oh god, and then Lilah Folger is expecting me to discuss LJ's birthday -"

Melanie's speech was rapid, verging into panicked. Ruth had seen her handle many a crisis, and felt a twinge of discomfort watching the unflappable head of hospitality, well, flapping.

"Oh!" she interjected, cutting off Melanie's to do list. "I've got a - hang on -"

Ruth returned to the drawers, pulling open the one marked 'Misc. Supplies' in perfect script.

"I almost forgot this was here. It's probably a bit creased, but it's clean. I stashed one away for - well for this really. Only for me, obviously. It might come up a little big but I'm sure we can tuck it in..."

Now it was Ruth's turn to ramble, but she stopped as she saw Melanie's eyes widen in surprise at the shirt in her hands.

"Ruth, I could kiss you!" she exclaimed.

Ruth barely had time to register the blush rising to her cheeks before it rose again. She swallowed harshly as Melanie began to pull up her coffee stained shirt.

"I-" she spluttered, quickly turning away.

She fiddled with her W pin as she stared at the wall, her own pulse loud in her ears. She must have really been rushing around, she thought. Just not got her breath back...

"Come help me zip?" she heard Melanie ask over the roar of her heartbeat.

She swallowed again.

Slowly turning back, she saw Melanie unsuccessfully reaching for the zipper halfway down her spine, arms contorted. The shirt was a little big, but Ruth couldn't help but think it looked good. Not that Melanie ever looked bad in anything ever but...

Ruth shook herself back out of her head, stepping forwards as Melanie turned her back towards her.

Carefully reaching for the zipper, she pulled it up slowly, careful not to catch any skin.

She let out a breath she didn't know she was holding, only she must have been too close when she did so, as the skin on Melanie's neck rose up in goosebumps.

"Thanks," Melanie said, uncharacteristically softly, as she turned back to Ruth.

Tucking the shirt tightly into her skirt, her eyes flicked up to the clock.

"I've got to go, is there any chance you could -" she gestured to the discarded shirt on the desk.

"I've got it. Don't worry."

Melanie smiled warmly, and Ruth felt that damn blush again. She handed Melanie her jacket.

"I'll swing by the laundry car too, and see if we can't do something about your uniform being expedited," she offered.

"I owe you one, Ruth," Melanie said genuinely, touching her hand to Ruth's arm for just a second.

And then she was out the door, leaving Ruth with the crumpled up shirt, and the blood rushing in her ears again.

[marlovian]

I'm excited for season 4, but some of my favorite Snowpiercer characters never made it this far! 😭 So, will you help me imagine what they would be doing at the start of the new season if they hadn't been killed/forgotten??

So let's catch up with; Lilah and Robert Folger, Santiago, Jinju, annnnnndddddd Asha

So excited for season 4!!!!! Thanks for such a fun ask :)

Folgers: definitely stayed on Snowpiercer post-division. Lilah spends her days indulging in her favorite hobby (antagonizing Melanie) while Robert spends his time being relieved LJ's whirlwind marriage is over. If Lilah and Robert are still alive, then LJ (unfortunately) probably is, too.

Santiago: I like the thought of him reluctantly buddying up with Oz out of a mutual love of pickling. Mama Grande gives them recipe advice.

Jinju: goes to New Eden. Spends a lot of time clashing with Ruth over agricultural workforce organization. But then, one night, they bond over a bottle of terrible Tailie-made moonshine and shared memories/residual trauma of being Melanie's best friends. And then, perhaps? maybe? romance ensues...

Asha 💔: finally gets to feel the sun on her face in New Eden. Helps Javi and Alex with setting up a power supply/other stuff that the last nuclear technician in the world would probably be good at. Spends her free time drinking tea with her Ag Sec buddies and helping out with New Eden's first vegetable crop. Takes off her shoes, digs her toes into the earth, and breathes.

[aflawedfashion]

Every Episode of Snowpiercer | 1x01 | First, the Weather Changed

[itberice]

[raggedy-dxctor]

why is no one absolutely pissing themselves at the fact that LJ CHOKED TO DEATH ON HER DAD'S EYEBALL

[sapphicbraincell]

snowpiercer + makeupaguy tweets

[wingsofhcpe]

Snowpiercer S3E10 thoughts: and then there were two

OH BOY I CANT EVEN PUT MY THOUGHTS COHERENTLY TOGETHER.

This episode was so powerful. And I mean SO powerful. The most Snowpiercer episode and the best episode of the season, hands down (sorry episode 9 my beloved). I got chills and teared up at at least three moments, and so did my mum (who am I kidding, my mum was crying throughout 90% of the episode because she's a softie and I love her).

Oh boy. Ok so, let me dispell with the "negative" comments first, but I thought the turn from "let's fight" to "ok let's separate the trains because we're good friends and we love each other 🥰" was a bit too sudden. It kinda felt like it came out of nowhere, but I can see they had limited time and had to work with what they got, and that the Wilford plan acted as the catalyst.

Second negative comment was whatever the fuck happened with LJ, it felt stupid and while I was devastated when I heard she dies in this episode, I just... didn't feel anything in that moment. It really felt shoehorned in, like the actress got a new deal for another project or sth and the writers were like "oh fuck, we gotta kill her character off so that the actress will be free to do that other more important thing". Anyway, goodbye LJ, my little beautiful psycho bridezilla. Os will miss you and so will I.

ANYWAY. On to the good stuff. Where do I even start? Oh yes, I know. Ruth going with Melanie. Ruth saying "I'm coming with you, I can't leave you to do this on your own can I?". Ruth being willing to stick by Melanie's side, until she brought up Wilford. Like. That was so painful and beautiful in so many ways. "I've redeemed myself too far to go back to this" YES GIRL YOU HAVE AND I'M SO SO PROUD OF YOU. Ruth gets better and better with every struggle, she's literally one of the best, if not the best, written characters in the show, and Alison Wright is a goddess and I will stand by that no matter what.

And yes that's me pushing my MelRuth agenda, especially WITH THE PIN SCENE WHERE RUTH TURNS TRISTAN'S PIN TO AN M AND IT BEING A DIRECT CALLBACK TO S1 OH MY G O D. I got chills. My mum got chills. She doesn't even ship MelRuth (hardcore MelBen stan, lucky her), but she teared up at that. It was beautiful.

Also so proud for Tristan!!!! He moved up from being a meek, anxious underdog to being the head of Hospitality!!! He's so brave and I'm so proud of him and I hope we see more of him in S4.

Now on Boki... My poor man. My baby. He's so broken but when they were all cheering his name like in S1 he smiled 😭😭 and then his scene with Headwood... She's like his mother in that scene I love it. He protecc. If only he hadn't yeeted poor Os like that.

Alex my sweet baby angel... I don't have much to say for her other than that I just love her and I'm happy she made her own choices even if the goodbye scene with Mel ruined me.

So uh... Wilford's out for now, which is a pity bc legit Sean Bean is one of the stars of this show, really bringing some higher quality to it. But then again, he is Sean Bean, so, he's already lasted more than I thought a Sean Bean character would.

No I'm not done talking about Ruth and I never will. The scene where she smacks Boki with a shovel and he turns and glares her down and she's like "mistakes have been made". I laughed so hard. I love this trope of a small(ish) character hitting a big scary immune-to-damage character and the second not even flinching, and the first character realising that "huh, I done fucked up".

ALSO RUTH REUNITING WITH HER RAT BUDDY FROM THE REBEL DAYS. I want to see her keep the rat as a pet in S4. I want her to name him Jimminy.

Ok on to the next thing that I'm gonna talk about for 5 hours: BESS AND TILL MY BEAUTIFUL LESBIANS I LOVE YOU SO MUCH THIS IS HONESTLY THE BEST CANON SHIP IN THE SHOW IDC IDC.

I thought up until the last moment that Audrey would betray Till for Wilford, I really did. And when I realised that she was free of his brainwashing and abuse? It was literally perfect. My heart ached for her, and she did finally come full cycle, she came back to who she truly was and what she did best, and I am so proud of her.

No really because she and Till bring out the best in each other and are really two perfect halves of a perfect whole, they helped find each other and it's just. Beautiful. They invented Soulmatism.

Till running to Audrey in the last possible moment before the separation?? Layton being happy for her and letting her go??? Honestly PERFECTION.

On to a few smaller comments: Miles my sweet baby son. He's grown so much. I literally love him more than anything and can't wait to see him be a kid with Alex and Carly. The goodbye scene with him and Josie and Layton was so beautiful and sad.

Josie and Layton FINALLY being together. That's the only good ship for Layton ever idc.

Ben and Javi... "Adiós amigo...."... I'm not okay...

BEN AND MEL..... LISTEN. Listen I am a MelRuth simp. But BenMel ticks all my favourite m/f ship boxes too and, well, I am a weak bi™. I'm so glad he stayed with her. I know they'll take care of each other... I love them both so much.

Oh another negative thing I gotta say is that Layton...bestie...calm down... Nobody's forcing y'all back into the Tail... Melanie literally only said "hey let's take some time to assess the risks properly and not cross a very dangerous track based on hope alone"... Anyway at least he came around in the end I guess.

And now to them getting out of the train.... That scene needed colour correction, saturation and contrast adjustments SO BAD. The cgi train looked better than the real-ass location they filmed this in. But also seeing everyone being so happy and playing around in the sun and water and earth... Bless their souls. So happy for them!!!

And last but not least... That cliffhanger. What the FUCK was that. What the ACTUAL FUCK. Who's throwing nukes???? Why is Melanie heading there???? What is happening???? Whomst??? What??? How??? QUE LE FUCK????

Also I was about to type "see you next week" and then I realised there's not gonna be a new episode next week... My heart broke a little and I am emotional. But hey, this was a great ending to S3, and S4 is confirmed, so, see you next season for more commentary, and of course, I'll always be around for headcanons and theories and crazy thoughts about everyone's favourite train idiots! So, until season 4, everyone! 💖

[oswidower]

LJ: * stabs Kevin

Oz: *In shock

Come on buddy. You know she loves using knives on men. As I recall, some of your first words to her were, “I know who you are. Are we good?”

The answer to that is yes, you two are good... but everyone else is free rein to her!

[storiesfromthegrave]

Snowpiercer - Oz & LJ

[ray-green-wicked4good]

If Snowpiercer had a pumpkin carving competition, who would judge it, and who would carve what in their pumpkins and who would win?

First of all--I love this! Second of all--I argued with myself for wayyy too long over whether or not Melanie would participate given it would tie up so many resources for a seemingly arbitrary purpose (one cup of cooked pumpkin contains 3 grams of fiber, 2 grams of protein, as well as adequate amounts if vitamin C and E, riboflavin, copper, potassium, zinc, iron, and magnesium--it is a vital part of a healthy Snowpiercer diet. Carving into the pumpkins makes them rot faster, Ben, and exposes the fleshy interior to dirt and insects etc, etc. Why don't they understand that it just isn't practical?) but THEN I decided, you know what? Melanie gets overruled. When Layton takes over, he decides to hold a train-wide pumpkin carving contest to boost morale and promises to give the winners all-you-can-eat passes to the Halloween feast (and first dibs on the pumpkin pie). And Till of course sides with him. Josie appreciates the opportunity for the Tailies. Ruth has never liked pumpkin on principal and Roche just thinks it will be a fun activity to do with his family. Jinju has already lost so much sleep over Layton's slipshod approach to resource management that she falls asleep during the meeting and doesn't vote. Everyone is surprised that Audrey sides with Melanie, voting against the contest, but her big gripe is that she feels Big Alice should be invited to participate too. And once Layton agrees to this stipulation, well--there's just no stopping that pumpkin carving train.

Coordinating with Wilford is...difficult. He insists on being included in the judging panel. Which Layton disputes. And round and round we go.

Eventually, an unbiased(ish) panel is selected--Miss Gillies, Kevin, and Winnie.

The entries are...varied:

- Ruth still doesn't like pumpkins. She refuses to cut into it to scoop out the insides. So she gets some silver edible glitter and sprays it all over her pumpkin. And sticks some teal bows on it.

(Winnie thinks it's pretty. Kevin sneers at the four-in-hand knots she used for her bows.)

- The Headwoods go all out. Mrs. Dr. Headwood carves a traditional looking face on their orange pumpkin. Mr. Dr. Headwood takes a scalpel to a smaller white pumpkin, and carves intricate lines all over to make it look like a brain. Together, they saw the top off the orange pumpkin and place the brain inside.

(Both Kevin and Winnie are creeped out by this. Miss Gillies is impressed.)

- Ben cuts himself twice trying to get the top off of his pumpkin. Melanie grumbles that he's useless with a knife as she bandages him up--then she kisses him and helps him carve a crude looking wave and palm tree.

(Miss Gillies says it looks great. Kevin says it looks like a caved in mess. Winnie asks if it's upside down)

- Roche and Anne carve a half a heart into two pumpkins so that when put side by side the shape is completed. Carly carves a ghost.

(Miss Gillies and Winnie both awww over them. Kevin gags.)

- Everyone on Big Alice has been instructed to carve the Wilford logo onto their pumpkins. But Emilia teams up with Murray to try to carve the continent of Australia. Murray accidentally makes a bad cut and so they have to try again on the back side. It is discernable, but when they put the candle in, it looks awful.

(Kevin turns up his nose. Miss Gillies says good effort. Winnie asks what Australia is and listens with wide eyes as both Murray and Emilia talk fondly about their old home)

- Javi carves a goofy skull into his pumpkin, and then paints around the eyes and nose like a Day of the Dead mask. He uses pink and red and white and purple. It looks very festive. He also gives it glasses.

(Everyone loves it. Even Kevin doesn't turn up his nose.)

- Another surprising entry is Tristan. He carves the face of the Cheshire cat from Alice in Wonderland. The smile is exquisite. The teeth perfectly aligned. With the candle inside, it glows warmly.

(Miss Gillies and Winnie are both very impressed. Kevin notes on his sheet that he suspects Tristan of cheating)

- Annie presents the judges with a perfectly untouched pumpkin. "You don't think I'm gonna make more of a mess for myself to clean up do you?" All of the janitors shake their heads to show their supports.

(The judges move on.)

- Layton is equally unprepared for the judges when they arrive. He has drawn lines on his pumpkin with a sharpie to look like a basketball.

(Kevin makes sarcastic comments about not being surprised. Winnie once again has no idea what it is)

- Josie, however, wows the judges with the intricate web she has carved into her pumpkin. She has even drawn little spiders on several of the pumpkin seeds and has them scattered around the base.

(Kevin's only comment is that he hates spiders. Miss Gillies instinctively launches into a lecture on the life cycle of spiders for Winnie, but Winnie says she remembers all about spiders because of Charlotte's Web. Josie gives her one of the pumpkin seed spiders to keep, which Winnie carries proudly and calls 'Little Lot')

- Boki's entry is a bit on the--abstract side. He and Cherry and the other breachmen drew several 'W's on their pumpkins and then lined them all up in a row. Then they smashed them with mallets.

(Both Miss Gillies and Kevin mostly stare at the breachmen's bare arms. Winnie tells Boki he'd better clean up before the janitors see. They'll be really upset.)

- Jinju's entry is creative. She has taken the bits of pumpkins she cut out and stuck them to the sides and top of her pumpkin to serve as the flippers and head of a sea turtle. The work on the shell has caved in some places, but the overall effect is impressive.

(Kevin thinks it's 'saying too much' but both Miss Gillies and Winnie tell Jinju it's great)

- Pike's pumpkin is...both scary and not. His hand cramped halfway through carving the big twisted moth, so he gave up, and drew the left half with Layton's sharpie. He got the eyes carved out, but drew a triangle for the nose. Then he stuck two forks into the top just for the heck of it.

- Likewise, Z-Wreck and Strong Boy have tried to go the traditional route, but didn't quite meet the brief. Strong Boy's pumpkin has a single eye suspiciously fist shaped. And Z-wreck's nose is way off center--and there are still a lot of stringy insides ruining the candle effects.

(Even Miss Gillies admits it's a little sloppy. But Winnie gives Strong Boy a hug and says she loves it, which makes him smile)

- Till panicked and doesn't know what to carve. She tries making a scary face with pointy teeth, but miscalculated and accidentally shaves off all the triangles for teeth. She had intended to make cat eyes, but can't get the slits right. She would have just left it, but Audrey helps her smooth out the mouth into a toothless smile, and reshape the eyes into hearts. She doesn't even seem to mind that Till got pumpkin guts all over her dress.

(The judges think it's adorable. Kevin is bored and comments on the messy workstation)

- Audrey's own pumpkins are...eclectic. A few have been sequined within an inch of their lives and wrapped in boas. Another has been given a pirate's eye patch and hollowed out and filled with rum. And still another has an intricately carved ballerina--but she is missing a head.

(The judging reviews are mixed)

- Osweiller's carved a wolf into his pumpkin. But when he tried to cut the moon around it as well for effect, he accidentally took out the wolf's head he'd worked so hard on.

(Kevin laughs.)

- LJ's entry is...disturbing. She was inspired by Osweiller's accident and carves a large hole in the face of her pumpkin. She then soaks the cut bits of pumpkin in green dye and wires them together to model into an arm. She shapes the hole some more to look more like a mouth and gives it lipstick. Then she places the arm inside her pumpkin, so it would reaching through the mouth. She glues on two of her father's spare eyeballs and tosses a wig on top. She calls it, 'Ding Ding the Bitch is Dead'.

(Kevin stared at it for a long time, looking pale. Miss Gillies covered Winnie's eyes and moved her along.)

- Miles had chosen a misshapen pumpkin for his jack-o-lantern. His initial cuts are along the bottom, to yank out the seeds and guts. Then he lays his pumpkin on its side and carefully blocks out three sections for his train. It's simple geometry--circles and squares. It turns out pretty good.

(Miss Gillies is very proud of him. Winnie says his choo-choo is perfect. Kevin says it's simplistic and doesn't have enough detail. Josie trips him on his way out. And Melanie trips him again in the hallway. Stupid Kevin.)

- Alex almost doesn't even enter. Wilford had been watching her, dropping subtle reminders that the Wilford logo was elegant and stable and probably the safest bet. And there had been plenty of other crewmembers who knew about her penchant for drawing who had asked for her help. So she had put it off. She made excuses. She didnt have the right tools. Halloween is dumb anyway. It wasn't until a conversation between the engines, when Melanie asked gently if she remembered how they used to carve together and roast the seeds later, that Alex finally made up her mind. She let Melanie carve a star into the top around the stem, and watched her scoop out the insides. She wordlessly hands her mother her drawing. Then she carves. It is very simple. But effective. A bumblebee. Despite herself, she has fun. She gives her bee buck teeth. The stinger is tricky. She let's Melanie try to carve the antennas. She cuts too close and one pops off. Alex laughs.

(Kevin asks what the heck it's supposed to be. Miss Gillies says it's...unique. She thinks she can see the their vision. Wilford scowls.)

**The judges argue deliberate for a long time. It is finally decided they'll name several winners--the scariest they agree is LJ's, the most creative goes to the Headwoods, the cutest/funniest is a tie between Tristan and the Roches and Javi, and the best overall goes to Josie. (Kevin insists the award for dumbest goes to Layton. Wilford is at least happy about that.)**

[thenightmareofyourdrems]

@headstrongblake sent: ℑ𝔫 𝔪𝔶 𝔡𝔢𝔣𝔢𝔫𝔠𝔢, ℑ 𝔴𝔞𝔰 𝔩𝔢𝔣𝔱 𝔲𝔫𝔰𝔲𝔭𝔢𝔯𝔳𝔦𝔰𝔢𝔡.

               ˜”*°•.    Impressive .  The  other  covered  in  mud  and  dirt  was  definitely  enough  to  bring  a  smile  upon  her  lips .   Much  had  they  seen  and  gone  through  together .  Much  had  been  shared  in  the  dead  of  the  night .  And  yet ,  there  he  was ;  keeping  the  fun  to  himself  while  she  was  being  forced  to  clean  up  the  camp .   Not  exactly  the  fairest,  and  yet …  he  could  possibly  make  up with  an  interesting  story .   ❝ This  is  not  an  answer ,  is  it  ? ❞  She  asked ,  eyebrow  firmly  arched  as  she  made  a  step  closer .   Digit  brought  upon  the  other’s  cheek  to  wipe  away  a  stain  of  mud .  This  day  had  been  horribly  mundane .  He  was  the  last  person  that  could  possibly  save  it .  ❝ So what happened  ? ❞