#dr. headwoods

[julesnichols]

So now that I can say it since a lot of (most?) people have seen 4.07:

What was the

✨ point ✨

of Zarah and Ben dying for Layton's plot this season when all he had to do was ask nicely and Headwood just handed her back 😐

[ruthiesrambles2]

[ray-green-wicked4good]

Countdown to Valentine's Day with Snowpiercer & a Little Broadway

(a.k.a. My favorite Snowpiercer couples and the Broadway love songs I associate with them because it's February ❤)

Entry 10) Mr. & Mrs. Dr. Headwood, "So In Love" from Kiss Me Kate

Mrs. Dr. Headwood: Strange, dear, but true, dear, when I'm close to you, dear, the stars fill the sky. So in love with you am I. Even without you, my arms fold about you. You know, darling why, so in love with you am I. In love with the night mysterious, the night when you first were there. In love with my joy delirious. When I knew that you might care.

Mrs. Dr. Headwood: So taunt me and hurt me, deceive me, desert me. I'm yours 'til I die. So in love, so in love, so in love with you, my love, am I.

Mrs. Dr. Headwood: (to Mr. Dr. Headwood's shoes) So taunt me and hurt me. Deceive me, desert me. I'm yours 'til I die. So in love, so in love. So in love with you, my love, am I.

[onetailie]

☕ Josie + revenge

I give this whole arc in general a 6/10. Solely because Josie finally showing actual anger about what happened to her is something I’ve been waiting for since season 2.

One thing I can’t get past is how Josie and Melanie ever interact again… not even once and how the writers just pushed her revenge arc onto Mrs doctor Headwood. I think she should have gone through with killing Dr. Headwood purely to giver her a semi-satisfying ending. I despiseeee how the show kinda forgot about what happened to Josie when we could’ve had one of the most tense “reunions” in the show if they ever actually addressed each other once Melanie came back.

Also I have to add how vague the whole experiments in the silo plot line was. What exactly happened in there and why did she come out so angry (apart from the whole blood snatching thing). I can’t forget to mention how it KILLS me that she never found out about the whole Zarah trying to kill her ordeal cause I know the whole forgiveness things would’ve been out the window 🥴

This season’s gift to me however is unhinged!Josie’s revenge rampage so I’ll happily take it.

Thank you for the ask, anon <33

[oswidower]

Snowpiercer season 4 finale reaction + spoilers

My guy Oz being the very first one to attack iktr!

Ruth sticking one right through the center!

Last Australian mention 🥹

The opening monologue is some of the main characters taking turns to speak.

My Mel/Javi hug!!!!! Awww!!!! their hug in season 3 was so sad when she saw all of his scars but now they're both happy and smiling.

Snowpiercers not on a track? They're just driving over the frozen ocean? Interesting.

Ruth: "I need a second to think about it." Nima: "Well think quickly please because people are dying."

Martin Colvin's alive!? HAHAHA We all thought he died in season 3!

Ruth: Queen of convincing people

Oz and Till back in uniform together, I'm gonna cryyyy!!!!!!!! Been dreaming of them being back together, I love this 😭

Omg Josie is scarily intimating with Dr. headwood 😳.

Nima decided to freeze himself to death.

Lol the rocket didn't work because of the latch bolt that Alex took out 😆. Alex saved the day... And the world.

Smile looks good on Javi ☺️.

Mel looks like her season 1 self in this particular scene.

Lol, a Winnie appearance in the finale!

Carly holding the baby 🥹

OMG I'M GONNA THROW UP OZ LOOKS SO FREAKING GOOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm gonna faint. I am deceased. (No but actually, I gagged. That's never happened to me before. Gagged from extreme excitement? Gagged because I found someone so attractive???)

Did... Javi just ask Sykes out on a... Date? That lasts days? They were smirking and giving eachother eyes. That sounds cute 🤭.

AUDREY AND OZ FINALLY PERFORMING TOGETHER OH MY GODDDD 😭😭😭 THAT'S TILLS WIFE AND BROTHER! I WINNNN

[rey-jake-therapist]

For people who are supposed to be very smart and spent years together... Some of the Snowpiercer characters act very dumb in season 4. The most blatant example being Liana's abduction.

First who thought it was a good idea to trust Dr Headwood, after she worked for Wilford for so long and was literally obsessed with the experiment she conducted on Liana?! This woman should have been been put in a jail or at least watched VERY closely in New Heaven. Second, "who could have done that".... HELLO dumbass, Wilford is still out there?! Who else could have known about Snowpiercer, and about Liana's special 'power' , than freaking Wilford?! Of course there was Melanie too, but why would have she sold Liana out? And how would have she come in touch with Dr Headwood anyway?

How come nobody even considers the possibility than Wilford has come out of his box, met the military forces and engineered the attack of Snowpiercer? Headwood was his favorite pet?! I mean c'mon lmao

Also I'm sure Liana isn't even far from New Heaven. Poor Oz keeps telling them all that he heard voices from the mountains. They had the PROOF that they were being watched and yet they keep treating him for the village's idiot who spouts nonsense. Those who watch New Heaven MUST have a base hidden somewhere, and that's probably where Dr Headwood took Liana. But nooooo rather than searching in the mountains, they prefer to jeopardize the safety of New Heaven to literally hand Big Alice to the enemy. Stupid.

[ninthprime]

snowpiercer 4x07 - 4x10 thoughts

despite being mixed on this last season, i think i could make a really good 3 hour youtube video essay about this show. or a real good a more civilized age style podcast about this show. tl;dr: i dislike this season less than a lot of people, but man, it was kind of weird, wasn’t it!

the other night while trying to gather my thoughts i reread much of the wikipedia page for this show, just to remind myself of stuff from previous seasons i may have forgotten. while doing so it occurred to me that, if summarized quickly, this season sounds far from bad. in fact, it sounds much more coherent than season 3, which has to rely a lot on layton’s weird visions. this season in concept sounds pretty appropriate as a final season- it answers questions about CW-7 and the warming of the world, gives us a big final villain with lore importance, and ends with everyone together building a new society. i’m pretty sure i guessed the final scene of this show would be an audrey and oz duet before the season even aired. which means all the flaws are in execution, which is an interesting issue to have.

as someone who’s mostly into this show because i’m attached to the characters, a lot of this is in character arcs, which feel very weird for a final season. this is where the big “they weren’t 100% sure this would be the last one” sign is blaring very brightly and loudly. that’s most clear with wilford’s death, which seems like it was made so that he could come back if they needed him to, probably as a fucked up cold zombie- but since the show’s over, it feels like it gets weirdly little emphasis. i actually think the concept of wilford offing himself before any of the people he abused can get to him could work in an “ain’t that a kick in the teeth” sort of way, but it doesn’t feel like it’s his last scene (even if the scene is pretty cool). but now it has to be! and i’m not even a wilford fan (i know, throw your rocks at me).

this extends to a lot of the other characters too. i am not a layton hater, but it is really striking to me that i can’t figure out what layton’s arc is supposed to be this season. and i don’t mean in the standard “he needs to rescue his kid” way- i mean that i don’t feel like he changes much, despite being one of the main characters and going through a huge loss when the season starts. i really enjoyed wilford pointing out how selfish he’s being in 4x06, but it doesn’t lead to anything in a way that’s bizarre. i can name a few characters where i think i know what their arc is this season- i think part of the reason i enjoyed the javi-sykes-oz stuff is that i can see the bones of all of their arcs, with oz’s being the most obvious and fulfilled. same goes for alex and josie. but none of them really feel 100% resolved, or it feels like you have to infer a lot. with josie, for example, you can tell her arc is about her trauma being revived and finally finding a way to truly come to peace with it, but it fell flat for me to have her final confrontation with headwood resolve offscreen. alex is the same way- having her lose both ben and wilford at the same time she meets nima makes her think about her identity, and the resolution is “she’s herself, and she’s going to prioritize the future and her community in the end.” but the show puts weirdly little emphasis on her saving the world, and i felt it kind of odd that it came down to just one screw. i had been guessing that she’d been planting little traps nima’s plans for the previous couple of episodes, which felt like a very alex thing to do, but i guess she wasn’t?

uh, to make a long story short- good season in concept, lacking in practice. it kind of strikes me as a first draft. in the universe where this was made under better circumstances (ie. 100% knowing this is the last one), maybe with some different voices, and we got the second draft? i think this would’ve been pretty solid. i did still like a lot of it, but this is where it’s lacking to me.

with all of that out of the way, here’s some more positive stuff and more stray thoughts:

i think 4x08 is my favorite of this last stretch of episodes, because it’s a lot of the small character moments that i really enjoy from this show. some of my favorite parts of this season and season 3, otherwise both pretty flawed seasons, involved taking advantage of the increasingly long histories the characters have. i loved roche’s ridiculous little speech to perk everyone up! look, i know he’s making stuff up, but i’m having fun! everyone’s getting a kick out of it! he gets to make a joke about yetis!

other smaller moments i liked here: josie’s conversations on revenge with boki and ruth, till walking around town with audrey, every part of the brakemen reunion but i especially got a huge laugh out of oz and till doing rock paper scissors in the middle of a firefight, ruth in the hospitality room one last time, javi getting revenge for ben via the spring doll, and the delightful bit in the finale where ruth finds sykes and z-wreck in the middle of having broken out of lockup offscreen.

despite how rushed everything is, nima really is a lot of fun. i truly feel absolutely nothing for milius (lol), but nima is often a delight to watch. the build-up during his argument with melanie, cross-cutting with wilford explaining who nima really is, is one of the best-executed scenes this season. i think in an “ideal” version of this show, in like the novel retelling or whatever (hire me amc), we would have had him built up before he actually appears- in a flashback in season 2, or being mentioned by melanie and ben a couple times. that might make it more obvious that alex is his kid, but it was barely a reveal by the time it happened anyway. (the scene where he sees her sketches and says “wow, did you draw this?” had me grinning, truly an absent father.) by the way: i think he and melanie should have legit dated. i think their dynamic is more interesting with that idea in mind.

i imagine there was some sort of real life restriction here, but i think my big change i would make this season, rather than a small tweak for character arc/plot arc purposes, is that i would have audrey be slightly less ill and put her into the javi-sykes-oz storyline. i mentioned in my last post that i think new eden letting layton’s crew take the train can be fixed by having someone argue that it’s as much about saving everyone on snowpiercer as it is saving liana, and that person should probably be audrey, who was there and who has always felt strongly about her community. i think she’d bounce off of oz and sykes in particular in interesting ways, and it allows time to set up that she’s nervous about her scars and potential lung damage, which kind of comes out of nowhere. also it is WILD that we never see her find out wilford died. like, bonkers.

it sucks to me that people were so down on the season by the time we got to the end, because for what it’s worth, the finale was clearly written with such love for the show and it makes me sad we got it in the circumstances we did. storming the train one last time, season one style! melanie on the intercom! martin colvin showing up and z-wreck complimenting his fighting skills! josie talking about pike and the other dead tailies in her part of the intro! astrid and miss gillies at the party! none of this really happens without people who really care about the show writing it, which is what i mean when i say that i think this was a first draft, not a completely bad one.

favorite relationships this season…i’ve already posted what i think about javi/sykes (it’s very good and i’m rotating them a lot). layton telling alex about wilford dying reminded me that i really enjoy their dynamic- in a world where alex has endless dad problems, layton’s a different kind of adult figure in her life. till and ben’s friendship was great. and i really did like melanie and alex together again, and layton and melanie being the center of the story at the end.

and that’s snowpiercer! it actually doesn’t feel like it’s over. in fact, i keep getting haunted by a sort of ���do the characters know their problems are over? does that feel wrong to them?” style story…which could either be a fic about grief or a full pathologic style piece of wall-breaking metafiction about being in a story that’s ended. uh…i do plan on rewatching the first three seasons after work travel season ends in a couple weeks. watch this space i guess.

[olivish]

Prediction: Wilford and Mrs. Dr. Headwood get married for tax reasons (and secret actual falling in love reasons) and adopt Alex in season 4

She would be the most radiant bride. Sure, a little awkward that she clings to her late husband's shoes at the altar. And she calls Wilford by Mr. Headwood's name. But, I mean, no marriage is perfect.

[tempestaurora]

i have finished snowpiercer. i have thoughts. they range from, wow i've never seen a single character be honoured after death so many times in a single season (it's very obvious the writers were bennett knox stans) to, wow i've never seen two uninteresting and dull characters as bess till and what became of miss audrey to have so much fucking screentime

they finish somewhere around, wow that was not a good enough reason for josie not to kill dr headwood.

[missaudreystiara]

It's Showtime! We're putting on a train production of Rent/Les Miserables/Rocky Horror (choose one)

Which Snowpiercer character is playing which role? Why? What shenanigans occur? Is the show a success? Who steals the spotlight?

This has been sitting in my ask box since I went travelling over the summer, I’m so sorry anon 💔🥲

I rewatched Rocky Horror last week for Halloween, so I’m going to choose this one!

Brad - Dr Headwood

Janet - Dr Headwood

Frank n Furter - Wilford

Magenta - LJ

Riff Raff - Terence

Columbia - Alex

Eddie - Audrey 👸🏻❄️

Rocky - Layton because he’s better looking when he doesn’t talk ( @davidbyrning do you think he would do his own grunting?)

Dr Scott - Boki

The narrator - Ruth

[raving-raven-writing]

Snowpiercer S4 E4--Thoughts-No Spoilers

Ooh, things are getting good! I really liked this episode! It had some good moments of my three favorite characters--Oz, Javi, and Roche. Javi and Oz actually got to interact. I remember chatting with @oswidower about the two of them interacting with one another to be rather slim--still happy to see it, even if it was a short scene. Nima seems to have a good heart, or perhaps he just wants to honor the promise he made Melanie about everyone staying safe. I really hate the Admiral--he's a dick and I would like to see him freeze. This episode ended on another cliffhanger! After the events of the episode, part of me is thinking that there are animals out or near New Eden, and they must be hungry! Don't hate me, but the whole Layton searching for Liana storyline takes a bit of a backseat for me. I love Layton, I am not really fond of children, but I am interested in what Dr. Headwood wanted with Liana in the first place.

[ruthiesrambles2]

💚🩷💙🖤

💚 a ship that you think deserves more love

I've already answered this with Brakenight but I've just got to say… Mel/Ruth. Join us.

🩷 a ship that you like, even though it could never work in canon

Pelton/Mrs Headwood. The time frames just don't work for them to develop a meaningful relationship. Respect to the late Mr Headwood but how cute would it be if we could pair up the ethical and unethical doctors.

💙 a ship that you like, but disliked at first

Regrettably, Mel/Ben. I absolutely despise the pairing in the show, the writing is… meh. The chemistry… meh. The acting… Anyway there are some really fabulous writers in this fandom who have really opened this pairing up for me and made it something truly sweet and romantic. Sometimes it's nice to just have that established relationship, you know? Nobody come at me for my shit take on these two, please.

🖤 a dark ship

I'm not sure what a dark ship is supposed to be but I'm guessing I could fit Mel/Wilford under it. Whilst @onetrainscifi makes a compelling argument for them having been married, I definitely prefer to see them as having been an abusive/inappropriate/violent pairing. There's history there but it's not pretty.

And I wanted to add Ruth/Lilah to this one too. Never been able to shake the notion that Lilah flirts with Ruth and Melanie, but it's so, so predatory. I just love to see my blorbos get hurt and I played with this a little bit in last year's Kinktober (lmao can't believe it's about to be October again and I never finished it. Life happens I guess).

[ray-green-wicked4good]

Wilford: Please remember that there will be a company-wide New Year's Eve party this evening. And everyone is invited.

Ben: What happens if we decline?

Wilford: I'm going to pretend I didn't hear that, Ben.

Javi: But what if we can't make it?

Wilford: Lets just say as your employer I will be greatly disappointed if you fail to arrive.

Boki: You mean you will cut our pay?

Wilford: Or...other essential things.

Ruth: What will be happening at this event?

Wilford: We dance, we drink champagne, we play a few rounds of Jenga, and then we all kiss at midnight.

Audrey: We...all kiss?

Wilford: Yes.

Jinju: All of us?

Wilford: Yes.

Commander Grey: Like...all at once?

Wilford: Yes, God, am I the only one who's ever been to one of these parties before? We dance with abandon, we drink with gusto, we kiss everyone we can reach at midnight, which is why I would like Audrey on my left, Melanie on my right. And Kevin, if you behave you can--

Melanie: Don't get your hopes up, Joseph. I'm not going to your stupid party.

Wilford: Why not?! Give me one good reason.

Melanie: Because it's not New Year's Eve.

Wilford:...Are you sure?

Ben: Of course, she's sure, you idiot.

Wilford: ...

Wilford: Kevin, what is today's date?

Kevin: January 1st.

Wilford:

Ruth: I'm afraid you missed it, Sir.

Audrey: Better luck next year, Joe.

Javi: Yeah, I'll see you tomorrow, boss, but I've got plans tonight.

Boki: You mean we don't get to go dance and drink and kiss again?

Wilford: Now wait just a minute--what does he mean AGAIN?!

Ben:

Javi:

Boki:

Ruth:

Audrey:

Jinju:

Commander Grey:

Kevin:

Wilford: Melanie?! Did you all have a New Year's Eve Party without me?!

Melanie: ...maybe.

Wilford: How could you?!

Melanie: Very easily since you don't even know how to read a calendar.

*Bonus*

Wilford: I'm going to take Jupiter and have my own Night After New Year's Eve Party.

Kevin: Why don't you just call it a New Year's Party, Sir? It's still a special night, the first night of the new year--well, I guess technically it's the first full night of the new year because last night was the first night. Starting at midnight. You know, when you usually stay up to greet the new year--

Wilford: Oh, shut up! My party is gonna be so much better than yours!

Melanie: I doubt that. The Headwoods hosted.

Wilford: What does that even mean?!

Ben: It means we all got high, you moron. And we put glitter and nitro-glycerin in a bunch of beakers and drank it with some railmans ale. And Audrey taught us all how to dance to a song called Cotton-Eyed Joe. And then we played Twister for four hours while the Headwoods went around poking us with scalpels and sticking cotton swabs in our mouths asking for DNA.

Boki: It was amazing.

Jinju: They served charred kale. I love charred kale.

Audrey: I liked the part where we got to experiment on each other.

Javi: I didn't. They said they'd run out of buccal swabs.

Commander Grey: What kind did they use on you then? I don't remember much after the fireworks came out of the cake--

Ruth: I rather enjoyed that bit myself. I always like a good sparkler or two.

Boki: And the song! I love it when we sing that song!

Wilford: Just stop! I've heard enough. Come on Jupiter. We don't need these traitors.

Melanie: I think my favorite part was the balloons. And watching Jupiter chase them. All. Night. Long.

Wilford: *anguished scream* NNNNOOOOOO!

[opponentsheir]

[oswidower]

Opportunist. Someone who takes advantage of situations in order to gain money or power, without thinking about morals.

[grandma-course]

The first person to write a Pelton/Headwood enemies-to-lovers can have my soul