#literally how many times do we gotta point at the video of the leader saying its a good thing like
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why do ppl keep assuming us politicans have so much power in israel exactly. at the end of the day they dont exactly get a say in whats to happen if israel or hamas doesnt want to comply.
#'ceasefire now' except hamas keeps declining a ceasefire bc god forbid they dont have more of their favorite terrorists#bc its not about getting home palestinian civilians its about getting home more ppl who want to make more israelis lives miserable#since a big thing for hamas is specifically hating jewish ppl and wanting to kill them all. which IS clear as day genocidal intent.#also its antithetical to their goals- they dont give af if palestinians die. they encourage it. it makes them look more sympathetic#literally how many times do we gotta point at the video of the leader saying its a good thing like#HOW CAN YOU DENY THIS#with all this in mind- what in the actual fuck are you expecting us politicians to do? what kind of power do you think they have here?#this is a conflict between two countries miles across the sea. its not a conflict between the US and some other country its two other#countries we dont have control over. if hamas wants more palestinians to die so they can get their Very Important Terrorist Friends Back#then what is to be done? if israel cant bring itself to compromise on this because of the very valid fucking fear of releasing *more*#terrorists who want to kill them all- what is to be done? what do you honest to god think kamala or joe can fuckin do?#its like two adults bullying eachother and you're an onlooker- you can try all you want to resolve the conflict but if they cant do it at#all between eachother for valid or not reasons then wtf are you expected to do?#and then all the people around you who've decided you have the power somehow to fix this are yelling at you for not fixing it#when you never had the power over this situation to fuckin begin with!
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Wilburâs character traits that many forget or ignore in their âhot takesâ:
So, this post is made to compile a list of things important to Wilburâs character that many forget, remain ignorant to or ignore when making posts, writing fics, theorizing or a long list of etc in fandom activity.
I will provide quotes to every point I can, at the very least I will provide arguments for every point if just a quote doesnât cut it.
(Quotes from @kateis-cakeis, go to his blog, heâs a legend)
Actual post under the cut
-Wilbur cares. A LOT.
He considered giving up on Lâmanburg to spare bloodshed, which is something most of the fandom forgets:
âBasically, we have such a lower opportunity here that we probably just need to accept the conditions of surrender, just so we can save any more bloodshed, any more destruction on our land. Theyâve entrapped our land, theyâve set up bombs on our land, theyâve destroyed all our homes. To stop any more bloodshed, I feel I would be a bad general if I didnât look for conditions of surrender.â - (Wilburâs The Revolution is Coming: 30:32, 2nd Aug)
âTommy, we need you alive. Tommy, this isnât worth it. Tommy, your life is worth more than the revolution.â - (Wilburâs The Revolution is Coming: 34:57:, 2nd Aug)
âWhat has made you do everything youâve done up to this point?â (Quackity)
âThatâs a- Thatâs a big question. Um. I guess itâs just protection for my people. I mean, I- I- I just want to see them thrive, and I want to see them safe.â (Alivebur)
- (Quackityâs Killing My Enemies: 1:03:02, 12th Apr)
ââCause, I mean, we were the, we just kinda made ourselves the leaders, and then, and now we had a vote, and he won, in a coalition government, which was completely legal, and now weâre trying to overthrow him. It feels like weâre the bad guys, Tommy. This doesnât feel correct.â - (Wilburâs who are you go away: 1:08:34, 8th Oct)
âLook, do you know how long and how much blood was shed to get LâManberg to the point it was at? You know what would happen if we manage to get LâManberg back again? More blood would be shed, and we would be the illegitimate rulers of a nation.â - (Wilburâs video Am I the Villain?: 18:52)
âI donât think everyone will be even once Schlattâs out of the picture. People will never be even. People will never be even, dude. Itâs gonna go on forever. This entire thing is a cycle. Up and down, up and down, just constant.â - (Tubbo reacts to Wilbur Soots evil plan! [yt clip]: 4:00, 13th Oct)
âI donât know. I donât know if I want it back.â - (Tubbo reacts to Wilbur Soots evil plan! [yt clip]: 4:24, 13th Oct)
âItâs what has to be done, man, itâs what has to be done. I was saying this to Tommy, Iâll say it again. If Schlatt loses to us, weâve still lost. Schlattâs a smart man, he knows what heâs done. Heâs set up things up in such a way, so that our success will actually just cause another cycle of pain and death and destruction, right.â - (Tubbo reacts to Wilbur Soots evil plan! [yt clip]: 6:56, 13th Oct)
Him saying that he didnât care if people got hurt during Pogtopia? That was a lie, something said out of impulsiveness, and was then contradicted by his moment of clarity and him running to sacrifice himself in Nikiâs place
âWe blow up the entire fucking place to kingdom come. I want no survivors. God help whoeverâs caught in the fucking crossfire.â - (Wilburâs video, Am I The Villain?: 17:52)
âAnd, I know youâre scared, Tommy, I understand youâre scared. And itâs scary, itâs scary, Tommy, but do you know what? You know what? In a time like this, when a man has nothing to lose, do you know what that means? It means we can do what we want. We have a man on our side who literally rigged our nation with TNT. We can do the same to them. We can rig this festival with TNT. We can kill them all, Tommy. â - (Wilburâs who are you go away: 1:15:52, 8th Oct)
âAnyone caught in the crossfire is caught in the crossfire. Thatâs how it goes, you know? - (Wilburâs who are you go away: 1:41:22, 8th Oct)
âChat, do I wanna- Chat, do I wanna, do I wanna do it? Iâm having second thoughts about the TNT. Chat, Iâm having second thoughts about the TNT. Do I wanna kill these people? Seeing that theyâre my friends.â - (Wilburâs The Festival: 34:09, 16th Oct)
âTommy, Iâm getting second thoughts. These are my friends, I donât- Do I- I donât know if I wanna [inaudible].â - (Wilburâs The Festival: 36:17, 16th Oct)
âJust, if youâre gonna kill anyone else, kill me. Donât kill anyone else here.â - (Wilburâs The Festival: 1:10:53, 16th Oct)
âYou sounded like you were gonna murder another person. You sounded like you were gonna go for Niki.â - (Wilburâs The Festival: 1:12:34, 16th Oct)
âOh, yes, sorry, Niki, you missed that part. I was gonna blow up Manberg, I was gonna completely destroy it in a huge fireball. Look, Niki, come to Pogtopia, youâre safer here. Youâre not gonna be hurt by anyone.â - (Wilburâs The Festival: 1:17:59, 16th Oct)
âNo you two can escape, Iâll be the⌠Iâll- Iâll- Iâll be⌠Iâll be trapped in hereâŚâ - (Wilburâs Speedy Stream Festival What festival: 27:27, 17th Oct)
âI donât, I donât, I donât want to kill you two. I donât want you two to die.â - (Wilburâs Speedy Stream Festival What festival: 28:53, 17th Oct)
He wanted to make sure that Niki was ok when they couldnât quite take her in yet:
âWeâre in too much of a hot position right now to take in everyone from every sort of like person we need into our new like cave, so youâre gonna have to hold out in Manberg for a bit longer, is that okay?â - (Wilburâs techno and wilbur make cave better: 51:15, 23rd Sep)
He always wanted Tubbo to stay safe:
âDonât, donât hold, donât hold Tubbo accountable, Tommy. He doesnât know. He just wants to survive.â - (Wilburâs the election results: 31:57, 22nd Sep)
âAnd whilst Iâm not entirely trustful of Tubbo, I still donât want to see him getting hurt by Schlatt. So, as long as Schlattâs being nice to him, then Iâm gonna keep my cool.â - (Wilburâs techno and wilbur make cave better: 37:21, 23rd Sep)
âWe donât hate Tubbo! Heâs a spy! Itâs fine.â - (Wilburâs techno and wilbur make cave better: 1:19:24, 23rd Sep)
âTubbo, you donât deserve this fate. You donât deserve the fate Iâm gonna befall everyone here.â - (Tubbo reacts to Wilbur Soots evil plan! [yt clip]: 1:17, 13th Oct)
âTubbo, look, Iâm saying- you donât deserve to- You donât deserve to meet the same fate as everyone else here, right.â - (Tubbo reacts to Wilbur Soots evil plan! [yt clip]: 1:39, 13th Oct)
âTechnoâs on our side, he wonât, he wonât, he wonât.â - (Wilburâs The Festival: 1:03:36, 16th Oct)
âHe fucking killed Tubbo, he killed Tubbo. He fucking killed Tubbo.â - (Wilburâs The Festival: 1:08:08, 16th Oct)
âYou actually murdered TubboâŚâ - (Wilburâs The Festival: 1:09:40, 16th Oct)
âWhat do you mean youâre on our side, you just murdered Tubbo in front of everyone!â - (Wilburâs The Festival: 1:15:08, 16th Oct)
He always cared about Tommy but expressed worry about his recklessness hurting them all or just Tommy himself one day:
âTommy, youâve learnt from me for so long now. Youâve taken everything Iâve taught you, youâve watched me debate countless times, youâve watched me write our declaration of independence, youâve watched me write our manifesto. Tommy, I believe you will have my beliefs and youâll be able to voice them properly. But, Tommy, Iâm worried that your fire, the fire in your heart will overtake you.â - (Wilburâs The Election Campaign: 56:39, 8th Sep)
âWait, Tommy, youâre not actually burning down the forest, thatâs literally- That was the one thing Schlatt put on the book he was gonna do. ⌠Thatâs literally the thing weâre fighting against, Tommy.â - (Wilburâs techno and wilbur make cave better: 1:04:15, 23rd Sep)
âTommy, if you donât fix the mistake youâve made here, I donât know if youâre the right fit for Pogtopia. Youâre already aligning yourself with the enemy.â - (Wilburâs techno and wilbur make cave better: 1:06:48, 23rd Sep)
âYouâre proving yourself to be too much of a loose cannon, Tommy. I literally canât- I canât- Look, there is a reason why you are not the president and never will be.â - (Wilburâs video Am I the Villain?: 05:36)
âTommy, Tommy, careless talk costs lives, Tommy.â - (Wilburâs who are you go away: 53:46, 8th Oct)
âRemember when we started LâManberg, I was pretty sure that was, you know. You are a pretty short-tempted, short-fused kind of an aggressive guy, Tommy. Iâm surprised you managed to get this far without killing him, you know?â - (Tommyâs The Dream SMP Finale: 1:28:07, 20th Jan)
âTommy, youâ You can never quite take things as they come, can you? You always gotta ask questions, man. Just, just. Come on, come on, letâs see a smile. Letâs see a smile, Tommy. Come on. Come on, cheer up. Look, you win. Come on. Why you gotta look so sad about everything all the time, man? Turn that frown upside down.â - (Tommyâs The Dream SMP Finale: 1:29:54, 20th Jan)
âIâm proud of you, Tommy. Iâm proud of you.â (Alivebur)
âSee you soon, Wilbur.â (Tommy)
âSee you soon.â (Alivebur)
- (Tommyâs The Dream SMP Finale: 1:34:31, 20th Jan)
He made sure that Tommy wouldnât be seen as complicit in the TNT plot:
âLook, Tommy, itâs gonna be great, itâs gonna be absolutely wonderful. I know you still donât agree with it, but like, man, today, letâs just be friends. Letâs be friends today, man. Even if you disagree with me fundamentally, I think after you see how much it puts us in the advantageâŚâ - (Wilburâs The Festival: 9:28, 16th Oct)
âItâs⌠Tommy, youâre my friend today, okay? You can have your grievances with me later, but today, youâre my friend, youâre my ally. Just stick with me, just get ready. Youâre not an accomplice here, youâre just a viewer, youâre a- you watch- Youâre a witness! Witness! Thatâs the word I was looking for. Youâre a witness, Tommy, alright.â - (Wilburâs The Festival: 16:24, 16th Oct)
âYou donât have to worry, you know, when it comes to the tribunal, when it comes to the Geneva Conventions, youâre in the clear, Tommy, you were just there, you know. Me, however, Iâll take the fall, Iâll take the fall, Tommy. Iâm taking off this fucking helmet. Look, Iâll take the fall, Tommy, alright. You just, you just focus on, just, you know, just enjoy the time.â - (Wilburâs The Festival: 16:40, 16th Oct)
We also can see some good old Ghostbur caring about Tommy and Tubbo as well:
âWill you still look after me if im alone?â (Tommy)
âI donât really know why that would change.â (Ghostbur)
- (Tommyâs Streaming before Exile Day: 1:28:44, 3rd Dec)
âSo why donât I pretend- Why donât we pretend Iâm Alivebur?! You can pretend Iâm alive still. ⌠And then we can go and make a new nation.â - (Tommyâs Streaming before Exile Day: 1:31:38, 3rd Dec)
âI will follow you, whatever you think we should do. ⌠So, Iâll follow you, wherever you think we should go.â - (Tommyâs Streaming before Exile Day: 1:32:18, 3rd Dec)
You want something more recent about him caring about Tommy? Thereâs plenty in recent streams too:
âTommy, do you remember when you got sent into exile? Yeah. I remember. I was there, Tommy, I was there. I was there. I was in the cage of that little ghostâs fucking head. Every single step you and me took-â - (Wilburâs resurrected gentleman of L'manburg: 20:23, 5th May)
âLook at me, Tommy. Look me in the eyes. Every single step me and you took, I was there, I was there. I had no control of what was happening, I have no idea what was being said. But, Tommy, Iâll tell you what, if I was there, and if it wasnât that stupid shell of a ghost instead of me, I would have struck down Dream right where he stood. We would have disembowelled him, we would have disembowelled him together. Together.â - (Wilburâs resurrected gentleman of L'manburg: 20:42, 5th May)
âTommy, Iâm not, Iâm not- I wasnât blind, I saw what he was doing to you, Tommy. I saw. I saw what he was doing to Tubbo. I saw what he did to me.â - (Wilburâs resurrected gentleman of L'manburg: 21:08, 5th May)
âWill, this is so cool!â (Tommy)
âTommy, shut up! I mean, Tommy, come over here. Tommy, come over here, come over here, man. Itâs cool, itâs cool, itâs cool. Sorry, I, I-â (Alivebur)
â (Wilburâs A Deck of Cards with a Green Smile on them: 26:08, 31st May)
"I wanna make a place where we can be safe for once. Tommy, itâs been so long since weâve felt safe. And man, you deserve it. Youâve been through so much, youâve done so much. Tommy, youâve changed the world. And all you have to show for it is some scars and some trauma. Tommy, you deserve this safety and this sanctuary, and thatâs what I wanna make with you, and you wonât get it over there. You wonât get it over there.â â (Wilburâs A Deck of Cards with a Green Smile on them: 40:14, 31st May)
âRemember the pit, Tommy? Remember what happened in the pit. Donât. Donât trust people who would have fought you in the pit.â â (Wilburâs A Deck of Cards with a Green Smile on them: 46:59, 31st May)
âWhoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, hey, hey, hey, donât come near Tommy, donât come near Tommy. I see you.â â (Wilburâs A Deck of Cards with a Green Smile on them: 48:44, 31st May)
âI just donât want him to hurt you, I just donât want him to hurt you.â â (Wilburâs A Deck of Cards with a Green Smile on them: 48:55, 31st May)
âQuackity, I wanna say, I wanna say to you, like, like from here on, as much as we may have our disagreements here, man, I- Weâve gotta leave Tommy outta this. Like, Tommy, I- Iâm sorry if we came off a bit strong.â â (Wilburâs A Deck of Cards with a Green Smile on them: 50:09, 31st May)
âGet out of the way. Stand back, stand back. I donât- Iâm not too, like, fond of this. ⌠Iâll go first, Tommy.â â (Wilburâs A Deck of Cards with a Green Smile on them: 53:56, 31st May)
âThis would be such a good point to just jump off and just end it.â (Tommy)
âNo, no! Tommy, Tommy, Tommy, get down. Tommy, get down off the railings. Tommy, get off the railings, man. I-â (Alivebur)
â (Wilburâs A Deck of Cards with a Green Smile on them: 57:50, 31st May)
âIs there a three-person chair? I donât want Tommy to be, uh.â â (Wilburâs A Deck of Cards with a Green Smile on them: 58:18, 31st May)
âTommy, Iâve got you, donât worry. Iâve always got you.â â (Wilburâs A Deck of Cards with a Green Smile on them: 59:19, 31st May)
âIâm excited to show Tommy. Whatâs you opinion on Tommy?â
âOh heâs great, Tommyâs awesome.â
âI agree, I agree.â
- (Wilburâs Healthy Competition: 51:17, 25th July)
âSo itâs obviously based on Hallelujah right? But the thing is, the thing is, Ranboo, right, is that the reason we did it is because Tommy used to sing Hallelujah to the plants.â - (Wilburâs A Year Later: 8:46, 3rd Aug)
âHe used to plant the stuff around the caravan and then to make it grow better, he used to- To make it grow better, my man Tommy- ⌠So, my man Tommy, used to sing to the plants to make them grow better. Uh, and that was the song he used to sing.â - (Wilburâs A Year Later: 9:14, 3rd Aug)
âSo I thought, what a way to honour Tommy, you know, one of the most loyal members of our fair nation, than by naming the song after him, you know? And singing it based on his little, his little muse, you know?â - (Wilburâs A Year Later: 9:47, 3rd Aug)
âTommyâs all of our muse Iâd say.â - (Wilburâs A Year Later: 10:02, 3rd Aug)
âBut, you know, itâs, itâs gonna get better, itâs gonna get better and itâs gonna be worth it when I see them smiling, all of them. Tubbo, Jack, Niki, Tommy. Anyone!â - (Wilburâs A Year Later: 25:32, 3rd Aug)
âI didnât even tell Tommy, I lied to Tommy, Iâll be honest. Iâm gonna tell him soon that I lied to him because it kinda eats away at me.â - (Wilburâs A Year Later: 26:29, 3rd Aug)
âI mean, Tommyâs great and all and heâs here, but I, I feel like, you know, I donât want to, I donât want to string him along too much.â - (Wilburâs A Year Later: 28:36, 3rd Aug)
You want some recent caring about Tubbo too? Well, here you go:
âDude, itâs- I donât even know what to say to you, man. Itâs like looking into a little mirror. Look, youâre even wearing my suit still.â - (Wilburâs A Year Later: 14:08, 3rd Aug)
âHoly crap, I saw you briefly, man, when I was resurrected. I remember you super, super briefly. But this is the first time weâve actually gotten to speak. Okay, I will admit, I was a little bit overwhelmed during that whole thing, you know, it was a bit, it was a bit, you know, I was running across the glass- which thank god its gone, like Jesus, like, this is far more apt.â - (Wilburâs A Year Later: 14:45, 3rd Aug)
âIâm sorry I wasnât, you know, entirely on the same page. But, man, I promise you, Iâve calmed down, you know, Iâm all, Iâm all settled in. I understand, you know, whatâs changed, what hasnât, whoâs new, whoâs old, you know, whoâs still about, you know, who⌠Who, uh⌠uh⌠Who trusts me and stuff.â - (Wilburâs A Year Later: 15:04, 3rd Aug)
âSuper simply, man. I just want to say I- I want to say Iâm sorry. For one thing mainly, uh, Iâve been thinking about this for y- Literal years, literal years Iâve been thinking about this. Uh, Iâm sorry for, uh, Iâm sorry for making you president specifically before blowing it up. And Iâm sorry for when I did this and blew all this up and making this hole, Iâm sorry that I, uh, I said you were the president of a crater. I just want to say that Iâm sorry, Iâm really, really sorry.â - (Wilburâs A Year Later: 15:56, 3rd Aug)
âTubbo, this is probably the best gift Iâve ever been given. Just this knowledge, that you actually cared enough to rebuild this community after it fell.â - (Wilburâs A Year Later: 19:26, 3rd Aug)
âTubbo. I have⌠a little thing going. Itâs not big, itâs nothing much yet! You know, itâs just- Itâs not a big deal! You know? Itâs, uh, itâs a little burger van at the moment, but Iâve got big plans, big plans for it. Uh, Tubbo, itâs called Paradise. Would you like to come join me, in Paradise, literally?â - (Wilburâs A Year Later: 20:00, 3rd Aug)
âI know you had that- at the festival, with Technoblade. I never spoke to you properly about this. I- I could have saved you.â - (Wilburâs A Year Later: 21:41, 3rd Aug)
âTubbo, Iâm- Iâm reaching out to you here, man, Iâm on my knees, bro. Like, I- Iâm sorry, Iâm really, really sorry. And I literally, your forgiveness means so much to me, but it doesnât, it doesnât give up what I did to you, and it doesnât give up how I failed you as a friend⌠you know, as a, I mean, fuck being, as a co-worker, but just you know, anything.â - (Wilburâs A Year Later: 21:56, 3rd Aug)
âTubbo, like, man, Iâm- I want to make it up to you. And you know what? I appreciate that you donât trust me yet. I do.â - (Wilburâs A Year Later: 22:26, 3rd Aug)
âTubbo, I, I really appreciate it. And I mean that, genuinely. I appreciate it. And Iâm gonna go out and Iâm gonna, Iâm gonna prove to you that Iâm worth being trusted again. I promise.â - (Wilburâs A Year Later: 22:44, 3rd Aug)
âI- Tubbo, Tubbo, I know, I know, Tubbo, Tubbo, Tubbo, Tubbo, please, I know. Iâm sorry, Iâm sorry.â - (Wilburâs A Year Later: 23:13, 3rd Aug)
âIt feels like such a weak word. I feel like thereâs nothing stronger that I can say. And I, and I, and I understand what you mean about how my actions need to reflect it and they will.â - (Wilburâs A Year Later: 23:20, 3rd Aug)
âTubbo, do you know how fucking strong you are? And Iâm not just trying to say this- Iâve got your forgiveness and I know I need to earn your trust, but, man, I just want to let you know I- Youâre so strong, man, genuinely.â - (Wilburâs A Year Later: 23:41, 3rd Aug)
âJust the fact that you proved to me just there that you have these memories, you have these nightmares, and you still found it in your heart to forgive me thatâs- Youâre a fucking champion, man, youâre a hero.â - (Wilburâs A Year Later: 23:54, 3rd Aug)
âNo, no, man, man, no worries. Look at me, bro. Look at me, bro. Bro, chin up! Look. Lucky Rabbitâs Foot. Tommy gave this to me, man. Lucky Rabbitâs Foot. Lucky Rabbitâs Foot, man, chin up.â - (Wilburâs A Year Later: 24:34, 3rd Aug)
âBut, you know, itâs, itâs gonna get better, itâs gonna get better and itâs gonna be worth it when I see them smiling, all of them. Tubbo, Jack, Niki, Tommy. Anyone!â - (Wilburâs A Year Later: 25:32, 3rd Aug)
âI think heâs gonna be alright. Heâs gonna be alright. Iâm looking at him, Iâm looking out for him here.â - (Wilburâs A Year Later: 28:14, 3rd Aug)
âYeah. Donât pressure him. He doesnât have to join. He just needs to come and- I just want him to come and enjoy some of our patented burgers! â - (Wilburâs A Year Later: 30:52, 3rd Aug)
-He truthfully believed in âwords over weaponsâ always
âWe donât win wars with battles and with armour. We win wars with our words, Tommy. Weâre starting a revolution, not a war.â - (Wilburâs The Wall: 4:54, 29th July)
âLook, Dream isnât our enemy, heâs our neighbour. But, we are seceding from his tyrannical rule.â - (Wilburâs The Wall: 57:34, 29th July)
âThe only thing I ask is that you donât touch the wildlife. The trees are very important to us here.â - (Wilburâs The Wall: 1:00:08, 29th July)
âIâm not a fighter, Iâm a writer.â - (Wilburâs The Wall: 1:48:31, 29th July)
âDream, we may have had our differences, but I think I can, I think I can learn to live side by side with you in this server.â - (Wilburâs The Revolution is Coming: 51:16, 2nd Aug)
âFighting is not necessary right now, Tommy.â - (Wilburâs the election results: 43:42, 22nd Sep)
âTommy, control yourself. Tommy, control yourself, itâs not worth it. Tommy, do not take your shot! He disrespected me, yes! But weâve talked about this, TommyâŚ!â - (Wilburâs techno and wilbur make cave better: 59:36, 23rd Sep)
âI see youâve abandoned my no armour policy since Iâve been gone.â - (Wilburâs resurrected gentleman of L'manburg: 19:31, 5th May)
He only gave into using the weapons or armour when he felt cornered:
âI thought we used our words!â (Eret)
âNot in this case. Theyâve tried to burn down our forest!â (Alivebur)
- (Wilburâs The Wall: 1:37:44, 29th July)
âTommy, for the first time in my life, Iâve equipped armour, in this server. This is the first time Iâve worn armour on this server ever.â - (Wilburâs the election results: 33:50, 22nd Sep)
Or in the case of his speech to Quackity, when the entire world seemed to reflect, after all the wars, that his ideology of pacifism wasnât the correct one (note how he seems to be talking as if trying to convince himself as well as talking from experience):
âIf you want to really help people, youâre gonna need power, Quackity. You can make a movement, you can make a resistance, right, you can go out and you can come back, and theyâll give you a ticker tape parade. Theyâll cheer for you in the streets, but you will change nothing.â - (Quackityâs Killing My Enemies: 1:05:42, 12th Apr)
âIf you have a revolution, everyone will hate you, you will sacrifice everything, and you will lose everything youâve ever had, but youâll come back and everything will be changed.â - (Quackityâs Killing My Enemies: 1:05:59, 12th Apr)
âAnd power isnât gaining from diplomacy, and bureaucracy, and giant courthouses suspended in the sky, blah blah blah. Itâs gained from swords, Quackity. Itâs gained from blades, itâs gained from steel, iron.â - (Quackityâs Killing My Enemies: 1:06:19, 12th Apr)
âEven if everyone has this good side that youâre talking about, then anyone who wants to prove it, has to show their dark side first. Youâre going to have to kill, youâre going to have to torture, youâre going to have to maim.â - (Quackityâs Killing My Enemies: 1:06:34, 12th Apr)
Ghostbur showcases this belief as well when he aquestions whatâs happening to the people of LâManburg and its ideals:
âHey, Tubbo, why are you wearing armour in LâManberg? I thought that was the rule. You havenât changed, have you, Tubbo? You havenât changed, have you?â - (Philzaâs Just a regular day: 59:21, 16th Dec)
âThis doesnât look like something LâManberg would build.â - (Philzaâs Just a regular day: 1:08:03, 16th Dec)
âIâve been reading a lot of history books recently, Philza. Lot of the LâManberg history books, right? Because I know that Alivebur was really important in it, right? And I was reading them all, and I read one of the things, one of the first doctrinations that the entirety of this nation was formed on was the idea that everyoneâs free. Everyoneâs free to do what they want, and live how they want. I donât think cages are conducive to that environment.â - (Philzaâs Just a regular day: 1:08:08, 16th Dec)
âRight, but also, another thing. Techno was always allowed in LâManberg. He was always allowed in there. But now heâs not. Now thereâs loads of signs about him, wanting him alive. Whatâs that about?â - (Philzaâs Just a regular day: 1:08:37, 16th Dec)
âAnd Tubbo shot you with a bow!â - (Philzaâs Just a regular day: 1:09:08, 16th Dec)
âI thought Tubbo was the- Tubboâs a good guy.â - (Philzaâs Just a regular day: 1:09:16, 16th Dec)
-The final control room kickstarted his paranoia and left a permanent mark on him:
âWhere are you taking me? This is- Iâve got bad memories down here, youâre gonna invoke my fight or flight reflex if you take me down here.â - (Wilburâs The Revolution is Coming: 49:48, 2nd Aug)
âEret, Iâm not going with you. I have, I have values still.â - (Wilburâs the election results: 26:50, 22nd Sep)
âNo, no. Yeah, we know weâve been fucking betrayed. Of all the people. Get out.â - (Wilburâs the election results: 26:50, 22nd Sep)
âEret, Iâm sorry, I know you mean well but, I- Iâve- Iâve gotta decide who I can trust right now and Iâm afraid youâre not first on my list.â
âI understand.â
âThank you, Eret. Thank you.â
- (Wilburâs the election results: 27:09, 22nd Sep)
âAnyone caught in the crossfire is caught in the crossfire. Thatâs how it goes, you know? Eret especially, he is the most clear, the most clear cut traitor of them all. He was a traitor from the very get go. I have no, I have no remorse offing Eret.â - (Wilburâs who are you go away: 1:41:22, 8th Oct)
As a bonus, consider every time Ghostbur talked about knowing Eret was âa wronginâ or bad because they cursed them out in the anthem, something that happened because of the betrayal:
âYeah! Because you finally put an end to Alivebur, and everyone didnât like him. But from what Iâve seen, he sort of had the longest era of peace in LâManberg.â (Ghostbur)
âYeah, kinda went down a⌠different path, unfortunately.â (Philza)
âYeah, ��cause of Eretâ
- (Philzaâs Just a regular day: 1:11:46, 16th Dec)
-He always cared about preserving history, whether it was on his favour or not
âYeah, itâs still a part of history. You donât tear down history when itâs- even- just âcause you donât agree with it.â - (Wilburâs The Revolution is Coming: 50:56, 2nd Aug)
This habit continues through Ghostbur and his sewer library where he kept all important books and memoirs:
âHey, Tubbo, why are you wearing armour in LâManberg? I thought that was the rule. You havenât changed, have you, Tubbo? You havenât changed, have you?â - (Philzaâs Just a regular day: 59:21, 16th Dec)
âIâve been reading a lot of history books recently, Philza. Lot of the LâManberg history books, right? Because I know that Alivebur was really important in it, right? And I was reading them all, and I read one of the things, one of the first doctrinations that the entirety of this nation was formed on was the idea that everyoneâs free. Everyoneâs free to do what they want, and live how they want. I donât think cages are conducive to that environment.â - (Philzaâs Just a regular day: 1:08:08, 16th Dec)
âI donât- I donât- I donât- I donât want to listen- I donât want to hear what you have to say. I donât want to have to hear what you have to say. I- I- Iâve read the history books, Phil. Iâve read the history books. You- You- You slayed the dragon, you slayed Alivebur. You were the- You- You are the St George of the Dream SMP. We understand, everyone understands that, Phil.â - (Wilburâs First Time Ghostbur Live: 17:58, 6th Jan)
âSo you make me suffer? I- I donât know what Alivebur did, and Iâm really trying to remember. But I know what I did, and I just wrote books. I built- Remember the lanterns we used to make? I built them. I- I built a house for people- I- I set up this area- I built this town just like I built Logstedshire, and I watched them both blow up. And I didnât- I- I didnât- I didnât hurt anyone, and yet Iâm the one who pays. Tommy didnât even live here, Tommy didnât have a house here. I sowed the seeds of peace, and yet Iâm the one who pays for war.â - (Wilburâs First Time Ghostbur Live: 18:47, 6th Jan)
âIâve read his memoirs, Ranboo. Theyâre all gone now, they were blown up when my library was destroyed, so many really important pieces of history were blown up when my library was destroyed. But! Iâve read his memoirs, and he was pretty okay, most of the time, he seemed. And people liked him. But then, he lost this election, and you know the story, everyone knows the story.â - (Ranbooâs Preparation: 12:11, 14th Mar)
âHistory is written by the winners.â (Ghostbur)
âYeah, and he, he technically won. I mean, he did what he wanted to.â (Ranboo)
âBut then he lost and everyone hates him.â (Ghostbur)
- (Ranbooâs Preparation: 13:55, 14th Mar)
-He loved and loves Fundy, he didnât disown him
âI donât know, man. I donât know, I think youâd be getting into a fight you wouldnât wanna start with me. Youâve only been on the positive side of me, youâve only seen my nice side, because, you know, being my son you get special⌠You know, you wonât ever see me going against you.â - (Wilburâs Letâs Capture and Farm Cute Animals to Make Money in Ooblets: 1:45:40, 4th Sep)
âF- Fundy. I- Iâve got- Iâve got- Iâve got a bad feeling about this. I think youâre just gonna, youâre just gonna get hurt.â - (Wilburâs Letâs Capture and Farm Cute Animals to Make Money in Ooblets: 1:46:11, 4th Sep)
âFundy, when I look at you, I can see thereâs some stuff going inside right now and you need some help.â - (Wilburâs The Election Campaign: 26:12, 8th Sep)
âWait, look whoâs coming, lookâs who coming, my son, my boy.â (Alivebur)
âYour ex-son.â (Tommy)
âWell I mean, heâs still my son in blood, but heâs justâŚâ (Alivebur)
- (Wilburâs Election Night: 10:04, 20th Sep)
âHeâs really upsetting me. Heâs, look, heâs supposed to be my son.â - (Wilburâs Election Night: 10:36, 20th Sep)
âItâs really sad, like I- Honestly I- When he turned around to me and he said he wasnât gonna vote for me, and then he decided he was gonna vote for the opposition, and then he decided he was gonna run against me. That was- One of those was the straw that broke my back, Iâm not sure which one, Iâm still contemplating which one.â - (Wilburâs Election Night: 10:52, 20th Sep)
âI miss me son! I miss when he was my boy! Do you remember when he was my boy?!â - (Wilburâs Election Night: 11:17, 20th Sep)
âYeah, yeah, go on, son! Just- Just- Yeah- POG2020 wants to let the furry talk. ⌠Yeah, everyone be really nice to Fundy. �� Look, heâs got dressed up in a little suit and Iâm very proud of him.â - (Wilburâs Election Night: 35:38, 20th Sep)
âMy son⌠My son is tearing down the walls, in front of me! My son is tearing down the walls in front of me! The walls I built to keep him safe! I promised him this world, Tommy, I promised him this world.â - (Wilburâs the election results: 39:41 22nd Sep)
âDonât give him promotions heâs too young, he doesnât understand. He needs to learn more. No, he needs to learn more, I should know heâs my son.â - (Wilburâs techno and wilbur make cave better: 57:57, 23rd Sep)
âWilbur is just a founder, and I was born here and nothing else. Thatâs literally everything there is to it.â (Fundy)
âBut you know thatâs notâŚâ (Alivebur)
- (Wilburâs techno and wilbur make cave better: 58:20, 23rd Sep)
âI donât know who you are anymore, Fundy. I donât know who you are anymoreâŚâ - (Wilburâs techno and wilbur make cave better: 59:08, 23rd Sep)
âFundy, Fundy is very clearly on Schlattâs side, look- Fundy was the closest thing I had to something I cared about in LâManberg, when it all began. You know, when it started, the closest thing to anything I cared about was Fundy. Fundy was my, he was my, he was my boy! My rock! You know? And hearing what he said about LâManberg and stuff is just⌠And when I heard him say that he had no care for me, I believe that. I think heâs so happy that heâs finally been given maturity in LâManberg, you know. Like, Schlattâs giving him the maturity heâs been craving, you know. And thatâs cool. Thatâs fine. You know? I have no issue with that, he can do what he wants.â - (Wilburâs who are you go away: 1:44:10, 8th Oct)
Want Ghostbur as well? You have it, even when he forgot about Fundy disowning him, couldnât really make up for Aliveburâs failings because he didnât remember and when Fundy was being adopted in front of him, he showed he cared:
âFundy needs a dad. Fundy needs a dad. For sure. And I need to make up for what I did. Iâve got to make up for what I did.â - (Wilburâs Amangus with new and old friends: 2:03:04, 24th Nov)
âLast time I spoke to Fundy was⌠erm. When I announced I was running for President, and you said that you were also gonna run. That was the last time I remember.â - (Fundyâs Being Adopted: 1:00:43, 27th Nov)
âHeâs very young, heâs only like fourteen. Heâs going through some times, he just needs time on his own sometimes.â - (Fundyâs Being Adopted: 1:03:12, 27th Nov)
âPhil, do you know how old Fundy is? I think he was very young when I remember, but I donât know if heâs gotten older since.â - (Fundyâs Being Adopted: 1:03:23, 27th Nov)
âAnd I, I, I donât know why your stream title is âbeing adoptedâ but I donât- I, I, I hope- I donât know what thatâs about. But Iâm sure- I- Iâm sure itâll make sense and Iâm sure itâs nothing bad and everythingâs happy! Everythingâs fine!â - (Fundyâs Being Adopted: 1:08:29, 27th Nov)
âDid Fundy like Alivebur?â (Ghostbur)
âHe loved you.â (Eret)
âOh! Well then there we go, thatâs a good plan then!â (Ghostbur)
- (Wilburâs First Time Ghostbur Live: 44:07, 6th Jan)
-Paranoia and distrustfulness are integral to his character
âYou say, you say everyone has a good side, Quackity. And youâre right, youâre right, everyone has a good side, but that good side is only there to help themselves.â - (Quackityâs Killing My Enemies: 1:05:32, 12th Apr)
âI think, I think Tubbo might be one of the few people we can trust here. I donât think I can trust Technoblade, I definitely canât trust Fundy. I canât trust Jack Manifold, Jack Manifold tore down the walls. I guess Tubbo is doing his job right now, I guess heâs out looking for us.â - (Wilburâs the election results: 42:10, 22nd Sep)
âLook, I think, from what I can gather, there is only two people we can trust on the server right now. Thatâs Tubbo, and thatâs Niki. Seem to be the only people who I can trust right now, but Iâm still not willing to open up to them yet. Itâs gonna take me a long time.â - (Wilburâs the election results: 44:18, 22nd Sep)
âTubboâs one of the few people I trust, Technoblade. Like, Iâm still figuring you out right now, but, at the moment, Tubbo seems to be, you know, pretty on the ball. He seems pretty keen on the whole spying thing.â - (Wilburâs techno and wilbur make cave better: 12:16, 23rd Sep)
âTubbo, ignore what I just said, I donât trust you. You have to prove yourself to me.â - (Wilburâs techno and wilbur make cave better: 12:33, 23rd Sep)
âTubbo said that he was wearing the suit as a disguise, right? Turns out thatâs not true, turns out itâs a dress code. So, Tubbo lied to me, which is not the best start for our, you know, our political relationship.â - (Wilburâs techno and wilbur make cave better: 36:52, 23rd Sep)
âHeâs a man who I thought really cared about his nation. But you know, Iâve been wrong before.â - (Wilburâs techno and wilbur make cave better: 1:10:00, 23rd Sep)
âTubbo, youâre⌠See, with Technoblade, right, I have no doubt that Technoblade is on my side, right. âCause with Technoblade, right, I know he just wants blood, and he wants war, right. Thatâs how Technoblade works, you know. He just wants to fight, and he wants to kill bad guys, right. Yeah, yeah, look at him, heâs a little libertarian, little anarchist, right. So hereâs what Iâm saying, right. You, however, I canât tell whether youâre cosying up to Schlatt to help spy, or whether youâre cosying up to Schlatt because you quite like how he treats you.â - (Wilburâs techno and wilbur make cave better: 1:21:09, 23rd Sep)
âTommy, Iâve got a question for you, right. Because this festival, this is a good idea, this doesnât seem like a bad like, this doesnât seem evil. You know? This seems like a nice friendly thing Schlattâs doing. Tommy, are we the bad guys?â - (Wilburâs who are you go away: 1:08:14, 8th Oct)
ââCause, I mean, we were the, we just kinda made ourselves the leaders, and then, and now we had a vote, and he won, in a coalition government, which was completely legal, and now weâre trying to overthrow him. It feels like weâre the bad guys, Tommy. This doesnât feel correct.â - (Wilburâs who are you go away: 1:08:34, 8th Oct)
âTommy, am I, am I a bad, am I a villain of this story. Am I the villain in your history?â - (Wilburâs who are you go away: 1:08:59, 8th Oct)
âThat guy Tubbo? You know? We love Tubbo⌠but heâs not on our side, is he? Letâs be honest. We act like he is, like, everyoneâs always how like, oh itâs crazy how everyoneâs against Schlatt.â - (Wilburâs who are you go away: 1:12:57, 8th Oct)
âEveryoneâs always saying how like, oh itâs crazy how everyoneâs against Schlatt. No oneâs against Schlatt. Everyoneâs pulling the biggest ruse on us. Literally, theyâve got us all by the fucking scruff of our necks.â - (Wilburâs video Am I the Villain?: 17:59)
âTubboâs like, âIâll be your spy!â. And then weâve got like Fundy whoâs like saying to everyoneâs twitch chats that heâs gonna revolt against us. And youâve got Eret giving us fucking potatoes, that say fucking âIâm gonna be friends with youâ. Itâs bullshit! Itâs all bullshit!â - (Wilburâs video Am I the Villain?: 18:09)
ââCause Schlatt knows, heâs a smart man, he knows that if we fight him, even if we beat him, weâve lost. If he fights us and kills us, weâve lost. Tommy, thereâs no in-between, he knows weâve lost.â - (Wilburâs who are you go away: 1:15:37, 8th Oct)
âTommy, literally have you not noticed? Everyone whoâs claiming to be on our side, theyâre lying to us! Tubbo?! Heâs lying to you man! He would drop us at the second he realises weâre not in the lead anymore!â - (Wilburâs who are you go away: 1:16:15, 8th Oct)
[About Tubboâs speech for Manberg] âThatâs not something a, thatâs not something a traitor would do, is it? Thatâs not- Weâre not- Youâre not gonna- Iâm- I- Ah- Iâm just- I was just wondering âcause writing a speech is quite a har-â - (Wilburâs who are you go away: 1:19:27, 8th Oct)
âAnd you know what? Itâs not over yet, Tubbo. Itâll never be over. ⌠Tubbo, itâs never gonna be over. Weâre here forever.â - (Tubbo reacts to Wilbur Soots evil plan! [yt clip]: 3:24, 13th Oct)
âTubbo, have you not realised? The one fear I had, the one fear I had when taking over L'Manberg, was the idea that the act of war and the act of tyranny that I was bestowing onto the Dream SMP would just start an endless cycle of vengeance and death.â - (Tubbo reacts to Wilbur Soots evil plan! [yt clip]: 3:36, 13th Oct)
âI donât think everyone will be even once Schlattâs out of the picture. People will never be even. People will never be even, dude. Itâs gonna go on forever. This entire thing is a cycle. Up and down, up and down, just constant.â - (Tubbo reacts to Wilbur Soots evil plan! [yt clip]: 4:00, 13th Oct)
âItâs what has to be done, man, itâs what has to be done. I was saying this to Tommy, Iâll say it again. If Schlatt loses to us, weâve still lost. Schlattâs a smart man, he knows what heâs done. Heâs set up things up in such a way, so that our success will actually just cause another cycle of pain and death and destruction, right.â - (Tubbo reacts to Wilbur Soots evil plan! [yt clip]: 6:56, 13th Oct)
âBut hereâs the thing, right, itâs about the fact that with or without, you know- If we win, Schlatt wins. If we lose, Schlatt wins. The only way we can possibly have any sort of semblance of victory is for us both to lose.â - (Tubbo reacts to Wilbur Soots evil plan! [yt clip]: 8:00, 13th Oct)
âYes, yes, by literally every stretch of the world. If we try and fight Schlatt, hand to hand, one on one, we lose! Even if we kill him we lose! Because weâve fought back and gained power. Do you know what Iâm doing here, Tommy? Iâm creating a power vacuum! Iâm creating a power vacuum. You know who can fill it, Tommy? Tommy, I know youâre gonna like this one, you could fill it, Tommy. You could fill that power vacuum that Iâm gonna create. Anyone could! When I destroy this, thereâs a massive vacuum and people are just waiting for the next powerful person.â - (Wilburâs The Festival: 17:24, 16th Oct)
âThey mean nothing to me, Tommy. None of them do. We can kill them all. Seriously, it doesnât matter, they donât- Theyâre not on our side.â - (Wilburâs The Festival: 19:24, 16th Oct)
âOh Tubboâs, Tubboâs clearly- Have you heard the way he talks to me? He talks to me like how he talks to Schlatt.â - (Wilburâs The Festival: 19:36, 16th Oct)
âYouâre just a yes man, arenât you? This isnât the first time Tubboâs done this man.â - (Wilburâs The Festival: 40:51, 16th Oct)
âTubbo organised the event, bro. Iâm telling you, man, heâs not on our side.â - (Wilburâs The Festival: 46:08, 16th Oct)
âDo you know why this is magnificent, Tommy? Because now itâs exactly what I said, no oneâs on our side, Tommy. Everyoneâs just listening to whoeverâs got the most power. No one cares. No one has any honour here. Everyoneâs just doing as theyâre told. Tommy, this is perfect. Oh shut up, Technoblade, youâre in it⌠as well.â - (Wilburâs The Festival: 1:15:27, 16th Oct)
âThis isnât about me, this is about blowing up Manberg, this is about just finishing it. Weâve got this! Look, Tommy, what else do I need to convince you? The festival was a front.â - (Wilburâs The Festival: 1:15:47, 16th Oct)
âBecause no oneâs actually caring about honour, everyone just wants to commit chaos.â - (Wilburâs The Festival: 1:17:15, 16th Oct)
âItâs just as exactly as I predicted- Itâs as exactly as I predicted, itâs exactly as I predicted. This is just all a travesty.â - (Wilburâs The Festival: 1:17:59, 16th Oct)
âBut Iâm not the one who was a traitor so, I should be the one deciding. Donât get me wrong, donât get me wrong, itâs fine that youâre a traitor, I like it, I like it, itâs cool- Why did you do it?â - (Wilburâs The Festival: 1:23:39, 16th Oct)
âSee the thing is, Technoblade, like, I know this probably seems very confusing but like I- I donât care if youâre not on our side or whatever, as long as youâre willing to help me do chaos. As long as youâre willing to help me.â - (Wilburâs The Festival: 1:29:06, 16th Oct)
âAfter last nightâs catastrophe- I mean Schlatt won, how awful is that? Literally we let Schlatt win? Schlatt came away yesterday with a victory for Manberg. Holy shit, no, not again. I donât think we should let that happen again, right.â - (Wilburâs Speedy Stream Festival What festival: 5:03, 17th Oct)
âAnd I thought, right, what did I do wrong? Okay things that I did wrong: One, I trusted Techno too much, right. I think we can all agree I did that wrong. ⌠He traitored, but you know, it ended up working out well for us âcause now we have another boy for chaos. And heâs kinda on my side in this which is good. Number two, I shouldnât have lost the button. ⌠But donât worry, âcause mans only gone and found it.â - (Wilburâs Speedy Stream Festival What festival: 5:22, 17th Oct)
âIâm just telling you, you shouldnât be worried, you shouldnât be afraid. And you know what? At the end of the day, Tommy, I would say weâve always got each other, but we donât, âcause if it goes wrong, youâre probably gonna hate me.â - (Wilburâs video Finale: 3:03)
âI thought I was the traitor⌠I thought I was the traitorâŚâ - (Wilburâs smithereens: 1:02:37, 16th Nov)
âHeâsâ Heâs gonnaâ Tommy, heâs gonna bring Schlatt back as well.â - (Tommyâs The Dream SMP Finale: 1:32:53, 20th Jan)
âRanboo, are you a schmoozer? ⌠A schmoozer, are you schmoozing everyone? Are you greasing everyone up?â - (Wilburâs resurrected gentleman of L'manburg: 35:38, 5th May)
âHeâs harmless now, heâs harmless now, give him, give him a burger van though, I donât know, he might spatula me, Phil. Could you imagine me, look at me, imagine me with a spatula through my skull.â - (Wilburâs Healthy Competition: 14:32, 25th July)
âRanboo, me and you are neurotic, and thatâs why weâre alive right now, talking to each other and doing this.â - (Wilburâs Healthy Competition: 40:25, 25th July)
âI think, I think you might be a bit braver than me, in showing your true colours. I feel like with you, Ranboo, I never have to be guessing your next move, I never have to be guessing your hand, you know? I feel like life dealt us the same cards, and the difference is that you build your trust by showing people your cards, while I keep them close to my chest. And I feel like that might be the big difference.â - (Wilburâs Healthy Competition: 41:22, 25th July)
âRanboo, Iâm gonna tell you something Iâve never really told anyone. I try and keep this on the low because I donât want, I donât want people to use this against me is the main problem.â - (Wilburâs A Year Later: 26:19, 3rd Aug)
âIn the case of an emergency, right? When we are head to head, you know? ⌠When we are head to head with Tubbo, and Big Q, and stuff, and you know, itâs all- And maybe shitâs going a bit- hitting the fan, you know? I need to know that we have a saviour card to save the innocent people in this city. You know like Tubbo and, and Fundy. I need to know we can save the innocent people.â - (Wilburâs Unhealthy Competition: 31:53, 4th Aug)
âIn most cases, yeah. 100%. 100% most of the time, maybe it wonât happen. But, if we need to protect the innocent people, thatâs what itâs for. You wanna protect like Fundy, you wanna protect Slimecicle, Tubbo? Yeah. So thatâs- thatâs what itâs for.â - (Wilburâs Unhealthy Competition: 33:26, 4th Aug)
âIâll make it very, very safe, yeah.â (Ranboo)
âPromise?â (Alivebur)
âPromise, yeah.â
- (Wilburâs Unhealthy Competition: 34:10, 4th Aug)
âAnd youâre gonna tell me where you put the button? And youâre gonna tell me where everythingâs set up?â - (Wilburâs Unhealthy Competition: 34:14, 4th Aug)
-Self-loathing and self-sabotage are also an integral part of his character
âTommy, Iâve got a question for you, right. Because this festival, this is a good idea, this doesnât seem like a bad like, this doesnât seem evil. You know? This seems like a nice friendly thing Schlattâs doing. Tommy, are we the bad guys?â - (Wilburâs who are you go away: 1:08:14, 8th Oct)
âIt feels like weâre the bad guys, Tommy. This doesnât feel correct.â - (Wilburâs video Am I the Villain?: 15:49)
âTommy, am I, am I a bad, am I a villain of this story. Am I the villain in your history?â - (Wilburâs who are you go away: 1:08:59, 8th Oct)
âTommy, letâs be villains.â - (Wilburâs who are you go away: 1:11:17, 8th Oct)
âHow much would you say me and Tommy are kind of the bad guys here? We⌠we⌠uh⌠weâŚâ - (Wilburâs who are you go away: 1:32:15, 8th Oct)
âWe fought against people, we killed people to get leadership of this country, we didnât really do much in our leadership, and then when we were voted out, weâre now trying to fight our way back in. It doesnât f- It feels like we might- I donât know, what do you think?â - (Wilburâs who are you go away: 1:32:28, 8th Oct)
âThing is, Tommy, Tommy, what youâre not understanding is, Dream only gave you that gear so that you could cause this conflict. You see? Thatâs what this is all about. Dream doesnât want us to win, Dream just wants both Pogtopia and Manberg to be weak! Thatâs it!â - (Wilburâs who are you go away: 1:34:03, 8th Oct)
âAnd, Dream, Dream, Iâm not, Iâm not scolding you on this, thatâs smart. Youâre a smart guy. Iâve seen your two thousand IQ plays. Right. Nothing can get past you, right.â - (Wilburâs who are you go away: 1:34:16, 8th Oct)
âSo, Iâm here to help you. Iâm here to weaken both of us, so much. Manberg and Pogtopia will be nothing more.â - (Wilburâs who are you go away: 1:34:25, 8th Oct)
âWe are the villains, Tommy! We didnât win the election and weâre trying to fight for it back! Look how nice this place looks under Schlatt, look how lovely Schlatt has made this place.â - (Wilburâs The Festival: 15:57, 16th Oct)
âMe, however, Iâll take the fall, Iâll take the fall, Tommy. Iâm taking off this fucking helmet. Look, Iâll take the fall, Tommy, alright. You just, you just focus on, just, you know, just enjoy the time.â - (Wilburâs The Festival: 16:40, 16th Oct)
âIâm not crouching thereâs no point! Weâll all be dead soon, it doesnât matter!â - (Wilburâs Speedy Stream Festival What festival: 24:16, 17th Oct)
âYesterday I had the perfect opportunity to blow everything up and finally end it, you know. I had the perfect opportunity to finally blow up everything and end it and just completely save everyone, right, from the tyranny of Schlatt and the tyranny of the existence of Manberg and LâManberg, right.â - (Wilburâs Speedy Stream Festival What festival: 25:17, 17th Oct)
âNo you two can escape, Iâll be the⌠Iâll- Iâll- Iâll be⌠Iâll be trapped in hereâŚâ - (Wilburâs Speedy Stream Festival What festival: 27:27, 17th Oct)
âOhh, fuck you! Fuck you, man! Why do you make it so hard?! I should have just- Iâm such a fucking showman.â - (Wilburâs Speedy Stream Festival What festival: 29:29, 17th Oct)
âI know we can, but weâll be the bad guys, if we take him down weâll be the bad guysâŚâ - (Wilburâs Speedy Stream Festival What festival: 31:10, 17th Oct)
âOh, I donât have a home, letâs be honest.â - (Wilburâs The Meeting: 27:04, 6th Nov)
âIâm always weary, I donât sleep.â - (Wilburâs The Meeting: 45:37, 6th Nov)
âThere was a traitor. I donât know what Dream was talking about, there was a traitor. Itâs me and Techno. And now the server is going to go into ruin, thanks to us.â - (Wilburâs smithereens: 1:18:36, 16th Nov)
âDo you wanna be alive again?â (Tubbo)
âOh, hell no. No. God, oh god.â (Alivebur)
- (Tommyâs The Dream SMP Finale: 1:29:22, 20th Jan)
âWe can bring you back.â (Tommy)
âWâ What?â (Alivebur)
- (Tommyâs The Dream SMP Finale: 1:31:46, 20th Jan)
âThe reason why Dream isnât dead now, off his own server, banned, is because we can bring you back.â (Tommy)
âYâ Wâ Iâ But Iâ Iâ I donât- I donât wanna- I- I donât.â (Alivebur)
- (Tommyâs The Dream SMP Finale: 1:31:53, 20th Jan)
âAre you sure?â (Tubbo)
âWâ You made aâ You⌠You made aâ The one person on the server who isâ I⌠You wantâ Let me get it straight. So you managed to get the discs by⌠Wait, so the reason Dreamâs not dead is because you want me back alive?â (Alivebur)
- (Tommyâs The Dream SMP Finale: 1:32:09, 20th Jan)
âGuys, Iâ What the fuck have you done?! What have you done?! The one thing I wanted was to stay fucking dead!â - (Tommyâs The Dream SMP Finale: 1:33:30, 20th Jan)
âIâm really happy youâre here, man. I felt this place growing for you in here, right? And you know why Iâm glad, Tommy, you know why Iâm glad? Because me and you were never good for that server. We just werenât. Like, you can look at the whole history of the server, and it all falls in our laps, the problems, right.â - (Tommyâs am i dead?: 9:35, 4th March)
âThink about it, everything thatâs gone wrong, is down to us, it lies at our footsteps.â - (Tommyâs am i dead?: 9:59, 4th March)
âHereâs the thing, I genuinely think, if it werenât for me and you dying right, the server would be in shambles. I know for a fact that if I come back, or if Iâm brought back to life in some way itâs definitely gonna just go [shit again]â - (Tommyâs am i dead?: 10:10, 4th March)
âI know what Iâm like, thatâs the issue.â - (Tommyâs am i dead?: 10:29, 4th March)
âOhh, fuck! Did I- Did I do that? Oo, thatâs not a good look, is it? Thatâs not a good look for me.â - (Tommyâs Breaking Into Prison To Kill Dream: 53:06, 29th Apr)
âOhhh. Ohh, no. Oh I really did a number on this place, huh? Oh ho, ho, ho boy! Oh dear! Oh no! I really did a number here.â - (Tommyâs Breaking Into Prison To Kill Dream: 53:23, 29th Apr)
âI told you I needed to have a think. And I donât think an apology will ever sum up what I did here, I mean, look at this mess.â - (Wilburâs resurrected gentleman of L'manburg: 8:00, 5th May)
Well, I mean, yeah, I didnât want a grave. I was hoping Iâd go there and it was just be full of requiems and obituaries of horrible I was, and how much I was hated.â - (Wilburâs resurrected gentleman of L'manburg: 10:51, 5th May)
âMy destructive bounds. My destructiveness knows no bounds. Tommy, my destructiveness knows no bounds. Tommy, my destructiveness knows no bounds. Someoneâs gotta stop me, someoneâs gotta stop me, Tommy.â â (Wilburâs A Deck of Cards with a Green Smile on them: 13:05, 31st May)
âThe thing is with this book, Tommy, is that itâs, itâs a⌠Itâs a call from an old friend, who I havenât seen in a long, long time. And I, you know, I feel like when we left off, we left off on a I assume a bad impression.â â (Wilburâs A Deck of Cards with a Green Smile on them: 17:52, 31st May)
âEvery person we seem to have spoken to, aside from say, I donât know⌠Jack Manifold. Every person aside from Jack Manifold, has taken a bit of a disliking to me. Oh and Phil, Phil was lovely too. And you actually. Come to think of it, the three people I care about most, Jack Manifold, you, and Phil, have been the nicest to me, you know. That might be a coincidence, who knows.â â (Wilburâs A Deck of Cards with a Green Smile on them: 19:24, 31st May)
âQuackity, Iâve, Iâve, Iâve, Iâll be honest you with you, Iâve lost everything, man. I, um. Iâve lost decades of my life. Iâve lost my- most of the people who cared about me. Some people donât even know Iâm back yet, and I, and I think thatâs probably for the best. So I feel like that does humble a man. That really humbles a man, you know? Life is paved with the mistakes you make, and uh, itâs not about when you made the mistakes or what you did, itâs about how you can improve from them, you know? And thatâs what um, I guess thatâs what Iâm trying to do.â â (Wilburâs A Deck of Cards with a Green Smile on them: 1:00:52, 31st May)
âI donât know if they actually needed me, but I was there.â (Ranboo)
âI know that feel.â (Alivebur)
- (Wilburâs Healthy Competition: 25:15, 25th July)
âWhy? Why? ⌠No, no, no, no, no, not the, not the bit about the, not the bit about the right foot, the why donât you think Iâm a bad person?â - (Wilburâs Healthy Competition: 35:13, 25th July)
âCan I, Can I be real with you? Sorry, Ranboo, you really got me with that, fucking hell.â - (Wilburâs Healthy Competition: 36:24, 25th July)
âCan I be real with you, man? I think I scare people.â - (Wilburâs Healthy Competition: 36:30, 25th July)
âI mean, like I, I, I, I donât think I, I- I think a lot of people share your idea, but they share your idea in trying to- trying to keep me from hurting them, you know? Like theyâve seen what I can do, and they donât want me to do it again, so they adopt your emotion in order to do it.â - (Wilburâs Healthy Competition: 36:46, 25th July)
âI relived that explosion in my head so many times man. And, and, and I- I get that you donât, you donât trust me, I do, but like, man, look at me, bro, Iâm not gonna do it again. Iâm not gonna- Iâm not gonna hurt you again.â - (Wilburâs A Year Later: 21:21, 3rd Aug)
Look at that, Ghostbur can do self-loathing times two by hating both himself as a ghost AND Alivebur:
âWell, heâs dead now, so letâs not talk about him.â - (Said by Ghostbur about Alivebur)
âItâs not me, Tubbo, you know thatâs not me, Iâm Ghostbur. I am different from regular one. He was a bad man, Iâm not him.â - (Said by Ghostbur, likely on Tubboâs stream from the 19th Nov that I can no longer find)
âEveryone likes me more now that Iâm dead, Tubbo, to be honest with you. Iâm having a much better time. Everyone prefers it when Iâm dead. So, Iâm perfectly happy being dead.â - (Tubboâs President Things: 1:34.39, 19th Nov)
âPhil, how bad was I, Phil? Phil, how awful of a person was I?â - (Wilburâs Amangus with new and old friends: 1:59:13, 24th Nov)
âIâm not him, Tubbo. Iâm not⌠Iâm not Wilbur.â - (Tubboâs The Next Steps: 31:27, 7th Dec)
âYeah! Because you finally put an end to Alivebur, and everyone didnât like him. But from what Iâve seen, he sort of had the longest era of peace in LâManberg.â - (Philzaâs Just a regular day: 1:11:46, 16th Dec)
âThatâs how you keep yourself sane. Yeah, thatâs how I do it. When people say to me âHey, Will, do you remember killing all your friends?â, I say âI didnât do that, halalalaââ (Tommyâs Alone?: 17:05, 19th Dec).
âHey, Tommy, I was having a think about it, and I donât think I want people to bring me back to life.â - (Tommyâs Alone?: 47:38, 19th Dec)
âI donât know, I donât think I want to be brought back to life.â - (Tommyâs Alone?: 47:52, 19th Dec)
âNo, I just- I donât know. I think I donât wanna- People prefer Ghostbur. Dream likes Ghostbur!â - (Tommyâs Alone?: 48:34, 19th Dec)
âIâve read the history books. You- You- You slayed the dragon, you slayed Alivebur. You were the- You- You are the St George of the Dream SMP. We understand, everyone understands that, Phil.â - (Wilburâs First Time Ghostbur Live: 18:01, 6th Jan)
âI take it back, Tommy. Tommy, I take it back. Iâm burning in the rain right now, and I just- Tommy, I want you to bring me back to life.â - (Wilburâs First Time Ghostbur Live: 20:07, 6th Jan)
âTommy, I know- I know I said- Tommy, I know how I said I didnât want- I didnât want to be brought back to life because I didnât want to- Because that would mean me as Ghostbur would stop existing. But I want- I want you to bring me back to life. I donât want to be Ghostbur anymore.â - (Wilburâs First Time Ghostbur Live: 22:12, 6th Jan)
âMaybe everyone will like Alivebur again.â - (Wilburâs First Time Ghostbur Live: 35:37, 6th Jan)
âDid Fundy like Alivebur?â (Ghostbur)
âHe loved you.â (Eret)
âOh! Well then there we go, thatâs a good plan then!â (Ghostbur)
- (Wilburâs First Time Ghostbur Live: 44:07, 6th Jan)
âI need to be killed. I-â (Ghostbur)
âThereâs a fox out there who needs a fatherâ (Eret)
âAnd thereâs a world out there that needs a ruler. When I look at this crater I donât- I donât see- I donât see somewhere that Ghostbur made better. I see somewhere that- that- that is owned by weakness. Eret, Iâm not a strong man, Iâm not a strong man.â (Ghostbur)
âYou were a strong man.â (Eret)
Yeah, but Iâm not a strong ghost. And I- This world needs strength right now, and I- Itâs one of those things where I donât want- I want to- Do it, Phil! Phil, do it!â (Ghostbur)
- (Philzaâs trying to revive my son LOL: 36:37, 10th Jan)
âAnd Iâll- Iâll- Iâll be back, and the world can be strong again.â - (Philzaâs trying to revive my son LOL: 37:31, 10th Jan)
-Heâs been depressed since he became president
He doesnât want to talk to people as a person during the election campaigns because the role of President was such a big thing to carry:
âCan I⌠talk to you like off the books and just⌠Can I talk to you as a person? Forget- forget the elections, forget the⌠the politics, forget we are politicians right now. I wanna talk to you up close. I wanna talk to you as a person.â (Quackity)
âUm⌠I mean I appreciate it- no. The electionâs in twelve daysâ (Wilbur)
-(Quackityâs Killing My Enemies: 1:03:23, 12th Apr)
He mentions being âa distant rulerâ and regrets it:
âI mean, look, Tubbo, Iâll be the first one to say I didnât always treat you the best on LâManberg. And I know I didnât! I was somewhat of a distant ruler, I pretty much only really- ⌠Look, I wasnât the best ruler, I know I wasnât. I think I was a good ruler, but I-â - (Wilburâs techno and wilbur make cave better: 1:21:50, 23rd Sep)
Ghostbur confirms that he was depressed:
âI just- I- I just remember I was in power, and I would- when I wasnât on a stage I would cry a lot, and- and scream into my pillow until I felt better. Thatâs what I- but I donât remember why I would do thatâ
- (Tubboâs THE GREAT REBUILDING: 2:14:18, 17th Nov)
âTubbo I recommend you buy a pillowâ
- (Tubboâs THE GREAT REBUILDING: 2:14:33, 17th Nov)
-He gave up the presidency peacefully and thought it fair if he lost because of the coalition he himself allowed
âLook. I could always push things off as an autocracy, I could always start just making myself the dictator of LâManberg. But I donât want to do that.â - (Wilburâs is about to change forever: 29:24, 3rd Sep)
âWhat happens if we lose the nation, Wilbur?â (Tommy)
âWell, then whoever wins takes over, w- what do you mean?â (Alivebur)
- (Tommyâs vod jschlatt gets unbanned from the Dream SMP: 1:45:50, 20th Sep)
âTommy, weâre citizens tonight. Just listen to Schlatt.â (Wilburâs vid How Schlatt stole the Election of the Dream SMP: 7:58)
âI called for this democratic process, and now heâs ousted me from my government. This- Iâm fucking speechless, Iâm speechless.â - (Wilburâs the election results: 26:12, 22nd Sep)
âWe held this election, and by god am I not gonna upset democracy just so that I can keep hold of- This is what the people want, we shall give the people what they want- But Tommy, I am not gonna die with you out here. We need to stay alive. That would be enough.â - (Wilburâs the election results: 46:06, 22nd Sep)
ââCause, I mean, we were the, we just kinda made ourselves the leaders, and then, and now we had a vote, and he won, in a coalition government, which was completely legal, and now weâre trying to overthrow him. It feels like weâre the bad guys, Tommy. This doesnât feel correct.â - (Wilburâs who are you go away: 1:08:34, 8th Oct)
âTommy, we allowed the coalition. On the day, they said they were gonna make a coalition, and our cockiness, our arrogance got in ahead of us, and we allowed it. We said âyes coalition governments are allowedâ.â - (Wilburâs who are you go away: 1:09:35, 8th Oct)
âLook, do you know how long and how much blood was shed to get LâManberg to the point it was at? You know what would happen if we manage to get LâManberg back again? More blood would be shed, and we would be the illegitimate rulers of a nation.â - (Wilburâs video Am I the Villain?: 18:52)
He was quite literally exiled and chased out of his nation when he gave up the presidency fairly and died in the process while people cheered in the background (and he still hold some resentment for it, which is completely fair if anything):
âWho ran against you! Who laughed as we were exiled! Who cheered as we were thrown out of our nation, that we built, WE BUILT!â â (Wilburâs A Deck of Cards with a Green Smile on them: 46:39, 31st May)
-He hesitated regarding the button tons of times, he also wanted people to stop him, he told his plans to people clearly and tried to be reasoned out of it (the more emotional approaches didnât quite get through to him)
âI- Look, rigging LâManberg is not gonna help us get it back, Iâm aware of that. But sometimes in order to feel comfortable and safe you have to be ready to give up the things that youâre worried you might lose. And in this case, I think I might lose it already.â - (Wilburâs who are you go away: 1:17:57, 8th Oct)
âWhy did you give me a cake of Niki? Why did you give me a cake that Niki made? What are you trying to imply? Are you trying to imply I shouldnât be doing it because of Niki, huh?â - (Wilburâs The Festival: 19:11, 16th Oct)
âI know thereâs a lot of people, Tommy! ⌠Iâm not telling you where the button is, man. ⌠Tommy, itâs over that hill, itâs over that hill, right there!â - (Wilburâs The Festival: 28:30, 16th Oct)
âChat, do I wanna- Chat, do I wanna, do I wanna do it? Iâm having second thoughts about the TNT. Chat, Iâm having second thoughts about the TNT. Do I wanna kill these people? Seeing that theyâre my friends.â - (Wilburâs The Festival: 34:09, 16th Oct)
âTommy, Iâm getting second thoughts. These are my friends, I donât- Do I- I donât know if I wanna [inaudible].â - (Wilburâs The Festival: 36:17, 16th Oct)
âBut this is the opportunity- this is the opportunity. If I donât blow it up now, when am I gonna blow it up?! When am I gonna blow it up, Tommy? But when do- when do we do-â - (Wilburâs The Festival: 36:30, 16th Oct)
âIf I donât do it now, what happens if this is the only chance I get. Everyoneâs in this close situation, I can do some proper damage. Look, this isnât a- He needs a consequence for his actions, Schlatt does, he canât just keep being handsome and powerful and strong all the time. He needs, he needs to be put down a peg.â - (Wilburâs The Festival: 37:07, 16th Oct)
âI can still call off this whole detonating at the end of the speech, dude. I can call it off.â - (Wilburâs The Festival: 38:24, 16th Oct)
âShould I show you where the TNTâs laced? âCause in a, in a last ditch effort, we may need to destroy it by hand, okay? So, under the chair, where Schlatt sits, thereâs about twenty pieces, right? And then going under, under the main area here, following this red line, there is TNT all the way, and then it jut- and then it- ⌠It darts up here, and over to the dance floor, but it doesnât touch the water.â - (Wilburâs The Festival: 38:29, 16th Oct)
âI have to light it, Iâve got to light it, Iâve got to light it.â - (Wilburâs The Festival: 1:08:17, 16th Oct)
âTechno, when I set it off next time, you ready to pop some withers in there as well?â - (Wilburâs The Festival: 1:28:42, 16th Oct)
âI thought today was gonna be my last time here, honestly. I genuinely, I was considering, blowing up LâManberg, having a big moment where Iâm like looking over the rubble, and Iâm like âIâve changed as a personâ. But like after this, I am just deeper. I wanna do different, more blowing up things.â (Wilburâs The Festival: 1:29:34, 16th Oct)
âWe waited too long. I just want chaos. I donât care about like when we blow everything up, you know?â - (Wilburâs Speedy Stream Festival What festival: 7:24, 17th Oct)
âAnd I thought, what better time of just eradicating the nation and eradicating him than right now. I can finally do what I said I was gonna, you know, that I said I was gonna do.â - (Wilburâs Speedy Stream Festival What festival: 24:00, 17th Oct)
âTommy, weâve tried my ideas. Iâm willing to listen to you. Iâm gonna follow you, Tommy. Whatever you think is gonna be the best way of taking down Schlatt, weâll do it. Weâve tried my ideas.â - (Wilburâs Speedy Stream Festival What festival: 32:01, 17th Oct)
âMy LâManberg. My LâManberg. As long- As long as I know the button is here⌠as long as I know. As long as I know the button is here. Itâs just not today. I just need to know that itâs there for a fall-back. I need to know itâs there.â - (Wilburâs Speedy Stream Festival What festival: 33:46, 17th Oct)
âIâve been hasty. But the fact that I know itâs there, and I can just stroke my right mouse button, thatâs all I need. As long as I know itâs there.â - (Wilburâs Speedy Stream Festival What festival: 34:27, 17th Oct)
âIâll be back. Iâll be back for this.â - (Wilburâs Speedy Stream Festival What festival: 34:45, 17th Oct)
âYouâve convinced me, I donât wanna go straight to Plan B, if Plan A fails.â - (Wilburâs Speedy Stream Festival What festival: 39:02, 17th Oct)
âI have a lot of TNT ready to go. I can definitely blow up LâManberg.â - (Wilburâs The Meeting: 7:40, 6th Nov)
âItâs Plan Bomb, itâs Plan Bomb, weâre doing Plan Bomb, yeah? Thatâs Plan Bomb.â - (Wilburâs The Meeting: 19:25, 6th Nov)
âWell, no, but I will though, thatâs the- you know- itâs Chekhovâs Gun, weâve spoken about this.â - (Wilburâs The Meeting: 27:59, 6th Nov)
âDream, letâs do this as a gentlemenâs duel then, you know. Instead of doing like a bit of a dirty war that weâre planning at the moment, how about we just do it like gentlemanly? We pick a date, we pick a time, and we have the war, and if it all goes tits up, I blow the shit up.â - (Wilburâs The Meeting: 42:59, 6th Nov)
âAnd then thatâs the be-all or end-all, that is either we take Manberg back - and Dream you fight us as much as you want for Manberg - and- or on the other side, we blow it all up! Thatâs the be-all or end-all, thatâs where it either- Itâs ends. It ends on the 16th. We have to end it.â - (Wilburâs The Meeting: 43:47, 6th Nov)
âI could be. I mean at the end of the day, my traitoring would be very anticlimactic âcause it would just involve me doing the exact thing Iâve said Iâm gonna do for the past month. Which is detonate everything.â - (Wilburâs The Meeting: 53:48, 6th Nov)
âI sort of made a deal with Dream. Look, I made a deal with Dream. Iâm fighting on your side, Iâll fight for the side of LâManberg. But the minute you guys start losing, Iâm detonating that entire thing. Iâm blowing the entire place up. And Dream said thatâs fine, Dream said thatâs allowed. So thatâs what Iâm doing.â - (Wilburâs The Meeting: 58:44, 6th Nov)
âLook, Tommy, at the end of the day, if this doesnât go well, Iâm gonna blow the place to smithereens. The place will be gone, Iâm gonna detonate it and blow it to smithereens, right, if this doesnât go well. But it will go wellâŚ! ⌠âCause itâs literally- thereâs no one on Schlattâs side.â - (Wilburâs smithereens: 21:00, 16th Nov)
âBut none of them have the same anticipatory love of what theyâre doing, unlike us. Everyone on our side is fighting for something weâve loved, and had for ages, right. Thatâs why weâre gonna win, and thatâs why you shouldnât be afraid. And yes, the whole place is rigged.â - (Wilburâs smithereens: 21:38, 16th Nov)
âI could, I really could, thatâs the thing. Thatâs the bit that I like. Itâs the bit that makes me smile the most is the fact that I definitely could.â - (Wilburâs smithereens: 26:28, 16th Nov)
âI thought I was the trai- Okay. Sure. Um. ⌠I mean, itâs pretty obvious, wasnât it? I mean- Well, okay, I mean, I guess, thatâs⌠Yeah, we, we wonâŚâ - (Wilburâs smithereens: 1:02:15, 16th Nov)
âI thought I was the traitor⌠I thought I was the traitorâŚâ - (Wilburâs smithereens: 1:02:37, 16th Nov)
âChekhovâs Gun. Chekhovâs Gun. Iâll be honest with you, chat, Iâve been wondering this whole time if it still works. Iâve been thinking to myself does it still- âCause I fixed it up for today.â - (Wilburâs smithereens: 1:11:36, 16th Nov)
He also was completely stopped by Tommy and Quackity just being there and in danger within the explosion room (he only wanted to take himself down with LâManburg, that TNT originally inside the button room was to take just himself out. His intentions are clear in these quotes, he no longer believes in surviving the explosion):
âYesterday I had the perfect opportunity to blow everything up and finally end it, you know. I had the perfect opportunity to finally blow up everything and end it and just completely save everyone, right, from the tyranny of Schlatt and the tyranny of the existence of Manberg and LâManberg, right.â - (Wilburâs Speedy Stream Festival What festival: 25:17, 17th Oct)
âExplain it to me! Give me a reason! Give me a reason!â - (Wilburâs Speedy Stream Festival What festival: 26:50, 17th Oct)
âWho else is it gonna hurt?! Itâs gonna hurt Schlatt, Manberg, and-â - (Wilburâs Speedy Stream Festival What festival: 26:55, 17th Oct)
âWhy did I bring- I should have just done it. Iâm such a fucking showman. I should have just done it.â - (Wilburâs Speedy Stream Festival What festival: 27:18, 17th Oct)
âNo you two can escape, Iâll be the⌠Iâll- Iâll- Iâll be⌠Iâll be trapped in hereâŚâ - (Wilburâs Speedy Stream Festival What festival: 27:27, 17th Oct)
âI just- I just want to f⌠I just wanna end it, I wanna end it. I wanna press that button, man.â - (Wilburâs Speedy Stream Festival What festival: 28:08, 17th Oct)
âI donât, I donât, I donât want to kill you two. I donât want you two to die.â - (Wilburâs Speedy Stream Festival What festival: 28:53, 17th Oct)
âOhh, fuck you! Fuck you, man! Why do you make it so hard?! I should have just- Iâm such a fucking showman.â - (Wilburâs Speedy Stream Festival What festival: 29:29, 17th Oct)
-He really cared and cares about Lâmanburg, and didnât wat its ideals twisted to hurt others with
âWhat is your wildest dream?â (Tommy)
âA nation where we can brew drugs without anyone stopping us.â (Alivebur)
- (Wilburâs The Wall: 5:26, 29th July)
âNo matter what happens, no matter- Even if he comes- Even he destroys the very hot dog van that we live out of. Until the day we stop breathing, that is when L'Manberg has fallen. He can destroy the walls, he can slaughter our friends, our family, but until the day we stop breathing, and the moment that the dream we have of a self-emancipated nation away from Dream SMP falls- is the minute we let go of that dream, thatâs when he has won.â - (Tommyâs World At War Vod: 1:16:04)
âDream. When you imprisoned our men, slayed us, and your men essentially did great wrongs against my people, I let go, I let it slide on the condition that we would have emancipation from you, weâd have our freedom, and we wouldnât have to reach a point of disagreement that we were reaching.â - (Wilburâs The Revolution is Coming: 24:36, 2nd Aug)
âWe donât wish for bloodshed, we donât wish for war, we donât wish to show our power in any way, we just want our freedom, we just want emancipation, independence.â - (Wilburâs The Revolution is Coming: 26:02, 2nd Aug)
âLook, Tommy weâve always allowed women. Do you remember when we were making the decree it was, it doesnât matter your sexuality, your gender, your race, you can join LâManberg.â - (Wilburâs Niki joins L'Manberg: 18:16, 6th Aug)
âThey arenât old school, these polices were formed from blood not long ago. ⌠With the idea of liberty. ⌠Of course they had to grow from war, we were oppressed! We were an oppressed people, Quackity. I led these people to freedom, and I will keep and uphold the polices which freed us.â - (Wilburâs The Election Campaign: 46:55, 8th Sep)
âBut what does matter to me, is that the fact that the leader of tyranny, who we fought for independence to get away from, is endorsing my opposition to become head of the very nation weâre trying to escape!â - (Wilburâs The Election Campaign: 1:17:08, 8th Sep)
âMy nameâs been through enough. You need to fight for what this country believes in. Ignore what Dream says to me, I can take it.â - (Wilburâs The Election Campaign: 1:18:52, 8th Sep)
âLiterally we have the man himself, the man who led a war against our nation, is trying to talk to us like LâManberg is some kind of nation for the conquering for him. To him, to him, we are just a conquest. We are not- He doesnât care about our nation, he doesnât care about us. ⌠Listen, TommyInnit, GeorgeNotFound doesnât care about us, he doesnât care about our nation. All GeorgeNotFound cares about is adding another thing to his conquest, and Quackity is enabling this, right.â - (Wilburâs The Election Campaign: 1:29:26, 8th Sep)
âWhat has made you do everything youâve done up to this point?â (Quackity)
âThatâs a- Thatâs a big question⌠um⌠I guess itâs- just- protection for my people, I mean I-I-I-I just want to see them thrive and I want to see them safeâ (Wilbur)
-(Quackityâs Killing My Enemies: 1:03:03, 12th Apr)
âYour aspirations of optimism are not going to be subject to my nationâs security Iâm afraid. I- I completely disagree with everything youâve said.â - (Quackityâs Killing My Enemies: 1:05:18, 12th Apr)
âI just want you to know, Big Q, that like, you know. I think, although weâve had our differences and weâve had our argument and stuff. Although weâve had our disagreements and weâve fought and stuff, I think weâre both looking out for the greater good of LâManberg, you know. Much more than that Coconut2020 or whatever theyâre called.â - (Wilburâs Election Night: 45:00, 20th Sep)
âI said, the one thing I appreciate about Big Q, right, no matter what he says, right, he cares about LâManberg, right. He really cares about LâManberg. Even if his policies are direct opposites of mine, he at least cares about LâManberg. These people just want power, they just want attention, right? So how about, in the case that Schlatt or Coconut, gets more votes than POG or SWAG, we make the POSWAGsâ - (Wilburâs Election Night: 1:07:38, 20th Sep)
âCoconut is against everything we stand for. They donât care. They donât care about LâManberg, they just care about votes. We care about LâManberg, and so did SWAG until they-â - (Wilburâs Election Night: 1:15:58, 20th Sep)
âTheyâre gonna tear down the walls⌠⌠Tommy. They say theyâre gonna tear down the walls. Theyâre gonna open it up to Americans. Our safe space! Our safe space. Remember, remember when we made the park? That was fun. Remember the Camarvan? Remember all the history weâve had here? Theyâre gonna tear it down.â - (Wilburâs Election Night: 1:18:17, 20th Sep)
âThis isnât- This isnât- Iâm not gonna be able to do anything to stop them tearing down the walls. I just need to have one- Iâm doing this for principle, Iâm doing this for tradition. I need to just have one last look, TommyInnit. I need to look at it one more time before itâs gone.â - (Wilburâs the election results: 38:18, 22nd Sep)
âNo, I need to- I need to watch this, I need to- This was- This is a huge part of my- I need to, I need to- It would be- Itâs like not turning up to a funeral.â - (Wilburâs the election results: 39:21, 22nd Sep)
âWill there be a LâManberg after tonight?â (Tommy)
âNot as we know it.â (Alivebur)
- (Wilburâs the election results: 50:03, 22nd Sep)
âKilling Schlatt wouldnât do anything, killing Schlatt wouldnât fix a single thing, that would not fix a single issue. âCause then Quackity would just become President, and who knows if that would be worse, and then George would be Vice President. Then if we kill Quackity, then George would be President. It means nothing, Tommy. It wouldnât have mattered if you killed him or not.â - (Wilburâs who are you go away: 1:07:52, 8th Oct)
âThen letâs be the bad guys. Tommy, why not? Why not? Look, our nationâs gone, our nationâs far behind us, Tommy. Letâs blow that motherfucker to smithereens.â - (Wilburâs video Am I the Villain?: 16:33)
âWhatâs the point, Tommy? Whatâs the point in rebuilding this entire place from scratch?â - (Wilburâs who are you go away: 1:14:07, 8th Oct)
âLook, do you know how long and how much blood was shed to get LâManberg to the point it was at? You know what would happen if we manage to get LâManberg back again? More blood would be shed, and we would be the illegitimate rulers of a nation.â - (Wilburâs video Am I the Villain?: 18:52)
âI- Look, rigging LâManberg is not gonna help us get it back, Iâm aware of that. But sometimes in order to feel comfortable and safe you have to be ready to give up the things that youâre worried you might lose. And in this case, I think I might lose it already.â - (Wilburâs who are you go away: 1:17:57, 8th Oct)
âItâs what has to be done, man, itâs what has to be done. I was saying this to Tommy, Iâll say it again. If Schlatt loses to us, weâve still lost. Schlattâs a smart man, he knows what heâs done. Heâs set up things up in such a way, so that our success will actually just cause another cycle of pain and death and destruction, right.â - (Tubbo reacts to Wilbur Soots evil plan! [yt clip]: 6:56, 13th Oct)
âBut hereâs the thing, right, itâs about the fact that with or without, you know- If we win, Schlatt wins. If we lose, Schlatt wins. The only way we can possibly have any sort of semblance of victory is for us both to lose.â - (Tubbo reacts to Wilbur Soots evil plan! [yt clip]: 8:00, 13th Oct)
âHow are you gonna make Schlatt lose?â (Tubbo)
âBy destroying the one thing we care about.â (Alivebur)
- (Tubbo reacts to Wilbur Soots evil plan! [yt clip]: 8:15, 13th Oct)
âYesterday I had the perfect opportunity to blow everything up and finally end it, you know. I had the perfect opportunity to finally blow up everything and end it and just completely save everyone, right, from the tyranny of Schlatt and the tyranny of the existence of Manberg and LâManberg, right.â - (Wilburâs Speedy Stream Festival What festival: 25:17, 17th Oct)
âAnd then thatâs the be-all or end-all, that is either we take Manberg back - and Dream you fight us as much as you want for Manberg - and- or on the other side, we blow it all up! Thatâs the be-all or end-all, thatâs where it either- Itâs ends. It ends on the 16th. We have to end it.â - (Wilburâs The Meeting: 43:47, 6th Nov)
âBut none of them have the same anticipatory love of what theyâre doing, unlike us. Everyone on our side is fighting for something weâve loved, and had for ages, right. Thatâs why weâre gonna win, and thatâs why you shouldnât be afraid. And yes, the whole place is rigged.â - (Wilburâs smithereens: 21:38, 16th Nov)
âT- Tommy, your only decree as President happened to be one of the best decrees you could have ever make! Welcome to LâManberg, LâManberg, welcome, please use the name correctly from here on. And so in keeping with the theme, I am also going to do a change.â - (Wilburâs smithereens: 1:07:27, 16th Nov)
âThat flag you that see over there, the obsidian one, scrap it. That is not the national flag of our nation. The national flag of our nation is yellow, black, red, white, and blue. And thatâs how it should be, and thatâs one of the first things I want changed.â - (Wilburâs smithereens: 1:07:43, 16th Nov)
âAnd this is something I want this to be one last time. Itâs important to know how to say goodbye to a nation, to my LâManberg.â - (Wilburâs smithereens: 1:08:47, 16th Nov)
âThat there was a special place, there was, was a special place, where men could go and emancipate, you know. And there was definitely, that special place did exist once, it did. It did. But even with Tubbo in charge, I donât think it can exist again. I donât think it can exist again.â - (Wilburâs smithereens: 1:12:22, 16th Nov)
âThe thing that I built this nation for doesnât exist anymore! The thing I worked towards doesnât exist anymore! Itâs over.â - (Wilburâs smithereens: 1:13:11, 16th Nov)
âI was just saying, I made this big point, and it was poignant, and it was that, itâs um, that there was a special place where men could go but itâs not there anymore, you know. Itâs not-â - (Wilburâs smithereens: 1:14:43, 16th Nov)
âUh, one thing, I didnât actually really care about L'Manberg, I just cared about, you know, sticking it to the man. Actually, I cared about L'Manberg for the sole reason that I could use it to stick it to the man.â - (Wilburâs resurrected gentleman of L'manburg: 24:18, 5th May)
âLook, I- Okay, I said it wrong. Look, I did care about- I did care about L'Manberg, but I cared about it for- You would call it the wrong reasons, but I, I- Just donât think about it, donât think about it too hard. Look, L'Manbergâs gone now, weâve got that, you know- That, that wart on my side is gone, you know. I salute it, I salute it, you know, it was a great- It was a great place.â - (Wilburâs resurrected gentleman of L'manburg: 25:18, 5th May)
âLook, Tommy, Iâm gonna reiterate for you once more because I donât think you quite understood, and thatâs okay, you know, you donât need to understand everything. I did care about L'Manberg. I did, I did. A rose by any other name would still smell as sweet, Tommy. L'Manberg would have been as loved by me had it been called Bimbum and was built in the middle of the desert.â - (Wilburâs resurrected gentleman of L'manburg: 26:05, 5th May)
âThe actual location, and the actual things it was, it were, were not important to me. Itâs the thing it stood for. Which was freedom, liberty, and sticking it to the man, Tommy!â - (Wilburâs resurrected gentleman of L'manburg: 26:26, 5th May)
âWe were a family, Tommy. We wereâŚâ - (Wilburâs resurrected gentleman of L'manburg: 27:26, 5th May)
âYeah, itâs great. I personally am a big, big fan of the song. Not just 'cause I wrote, I know, you know they say, you know they always say you are your own worst critic. But, I mean, I, I think itâs good.â - (Wilburâs A Year Later: 8:07, 3rd Aug)
âSo itâs obviously based on Hallelujah right? But the thing is, the thing is, Ranboo, right, is that the reason we did it is because Tommy used to sing Hallelujah to the plants.â - (Wilburâs A Year Later: 8:46, 3rd Aug)
âHe used to plant the stuff around the caravan and then to make it grow better, he used to- To make it grow better, my man Tommy- ⌠So, my man Tommy, used to sing to the plants to make them grow better. Uh, and that was the song he used to sing.â - (Wilburâs A Year Later: 9:14, 3rd Aug)
âSo I thought, what a way to honour Tommy, you know, one of the most loyal members of our fair nation, than by naming the song after him, you know? And singing it based on his little, his little muse, you know?â - (Wilburâs A Year Later: 9:47, 3rd Aug)
âAnyway, Iâm excited, letâs go to L'Manberg. Or to what was L'Man- Itâs just a big glass thing now, isnât it?â - (Wilburâs A Year Later: 10:56, 3rd Aug)
âI- Ah- Itâs kinda- Iâm not a fan. Itâs kinda rude to L'Manbergâs history, you know? Itâs called L'Manberg. Itâs called L'Manberg. Not Manberg, not L'Crater, or whatever. L'Manhole⌠I donât care. Itâs now, L'Manberg. Itâs always L'Manberg. Itâs just how it goes.â - (Wilburâs A Year Later: 11:06, 3rd Aug)
âOhh! Itâs got the flag, man! Can we go down and see the flag?! Come on, come on, come on! Fuck, get me down there, get me down there. Shit, Iâm struggling to climb! Iâm like a lemming. I donât care, Iâm just gonna jump!â - (Wilburâs A Year Later: 11:49, 3rd Aug)
âSee, this is, this is what it deserved. Not that glass bullshit, you know? This is what it needed. It needed this like, this like beautiful overgrown, like- It feels like, it feels like, it feels like, you know, it happened now, you know? It doesnât just feel like, it doesnât just feel like, 'oh yeah itâs a monumentâ. It feels like- This is- You know, natureâs claimed it back and this is the world.â - (Wilburâs A Year Later: 12:14, 3rd Aug)
âItâs weird seeing you here.â (Tubbo)
âWha- What, in L'Manberg? That seems like the most normal place to see me, right?â (Alivebur)
- (Wilburâs A Year Later: 13:57, 3rd Aug)
âSorry, thatâs kinda⌠hit me. Not, not the blowing up part, I mean, Iâve done that. You know, Iâm not, Iâm not shaken up about that. The thing Iâm shaken up about, man, is that, you rebuilt this. After Iâd gone.â - (Wilburâs A Year Later: 18:48, 3rd Aug)
âOh yeah the fucking ghost- Who car- You rebuilt this!â - (Wilburâs A Year Later: 19:03, 3rd Aug)
âFuck a grave. I was so pressed about not having a grave. Screw a grave. I built something that you⌠that you love, that you wanted to preserve, thatâs- Tubbo, thatâs worth more to me than a grave, thatâs worth more to me than this shrine, thatâs worth more-â - (Wilburâs A Year Later: 19:09, 3rd Aug)
âTubbo, this is probably the best gift Iâve ever been given. Just this knowledge, that you actually cared enough to rebuild this community after it fell.â - (Wilburâs A Year Later: 19:26, 3rd Aug)
âYou feel lost without, without a nation. I guess thatâs where anarchy fails.â - (Wilburâs A Year Later: 19:51, 3rd Aug)
âYeah we fought against Dream, uh, and we managed to- We succeeded and we created a life for ourselves.â - (Wilburâs A Year Later: 26:13, 3rd Aug)
âRanboo, Iâm gonna tell you something Iâve never really told anyone. I try and keep this on the low because I donât want, I donât want people to use this against me is the main problem.â - (Wilburâs A Year Later: 26:19, 3rd Aug)
âI didnât even tell Tommy, I lied to Tommy, Iâll be honest. Iâm gonna tell him soon that I lied to him because it kinda eats away at me.â - (Wilburâs A Year Later: 26:29, 3rd Aug)
âI told Tommy that I didnât actually care about L'Manberg, and that it was just like a tool for me to use to gain like, you know, power and stuff. But itâs not, itâs not true.â - (Wilburâs A Year Later: 26:36, 3rd Aug)
âL'Manberg is- was really important to me. And it is still to this day.â - (Wilburâs A Year Later: 26:47, 3rd Aug)
âI want it to, em, I want its history to live on not as a stain caused by me, you know. I basically just took a big shit on the history books, it feels like. I wanna, I wanna make it, I wanna make it feel like it was, you know, it was something that happened. You know, it was a great thing, you know, think of the good times. The- The years of safety. Well, not years, but you know.â - (Wilburâs A Year Later: 26:47, 3rd Aug)
âThe time of safety, the time of fun, prosperity, you know. We built parks, we had, you know, no taxes, we had big walls. We had democracy. Albeit, a slightly disjointed version of it. But, you know. I want, thatâs how people remember L'Manberg. Thatâs what people think of when they think of our nation.â - (Wilburâs A Year Later: 26:47, 3rd Aug)
âAnd you know, Tubbo, Tubboâs the last connection we really have. I mean, he⌠heâd said it himself heâs kind of, you know, heâs got nothing without it.â - (Wilburâs A Year Later: 27:36, 3rd Aug)
âIâve heard about what- what- Tommyâs, you know, moved on, and how Jackâs moved on, and Nikiâs moved on, and everyoneâs moved on from L'Manberg, at least partially, but Tubbo, man, heâs stillâŚâ - (Wilburâs A Year Later: 27:45, 3rd Aug)
âI think heâs gonna be alright. Heâs gonna be alright. Iâm looking at him, Iâm looking out for him here.â - (Wilburâs A Year Later: 28:14, 3rd Aug)
Ghostbur wore this care for LâManburg and its people on his sleeve as well (and rebuilt most of it when making New LâManburg):
âEverything for LâManberg. For LâManberg, my LâManberg.â - (Wilburâs Amangus with new and old friends: 1:46:29, 24th Nov)
âHey, Tubbo, why are you wearing armour in LâManberg? I thought that was the rule. You havenât changed, have you, Tubbo? You havenât changed, have you?â - (Philzaâs Just a regular day: 59:21, 16th Dec)
âThis doesnât look like something LâManberg would build.â - (Philzaâs Just a regular day: 1:08:03, 16th Dec)
âIâve been reading a lot of history books recently, Philza. Lot of the LâManberg history books, right? Because I know that Alivebur was really important in it, right? And I was reading them all, and I read one of the things, one of the first doctrinations that the entirety of this nation was formed on was the idea that everyoneâs free. Everyoneâs free to do what they want, and live how they want. I donât think cages are conducive to that environment.â - (Philzaâs Just a regular day: 1:08:08, 16th Dec)
âRight, but also, another thing. Techno was always allowed in LâManberg. He was always allowed in there. But now heâs not. Now thereâs loads of signs about him, wanting him alive. Whatâs that about?â - (Philzaâs Just a regular day: 1:08:37, 16th Dec)
âAnd Tubbo shot you with a bow!â - (Philzaâs Just a regular day: 1:09:08, 16th Dec)
âI thought Tubbo was the- Tubboâs a good guy.â - (Philzaâs Just a regular day: 1:09:16, 16th Dec)
âYeah! Because you finally put an end to Alivebur, and everyone didnât like him. But from what Iâve seen, he sort of had the longest era of peace in LâManberg.â - (Philzaâs Just a regular day: 1:11:46, 16th Dec)
âIâm going to go see this cage.â *starts singing the first verse of the anthem* - (Philzaâs Just a regular day: 1:17:18, 16th Dec)
âI wrote the verses! I wrote the second and third verses it was a very happy memory for me.â - (Philzaâs Just a regular day: 1:17:44, 16th Dec)
âPhil, I donât think a cage is very indicative of LâManberg. Iâm going to get rid of the cage.â - (Philzaâs Just a regular day: 1:18:16, 16th Dec)
âFreedom! This entire nationâs about freedom and doing whatever you want.â - (Philzaâs Just a regular day: 1:19:41, 16th Dec)
âI just destroyed the cage, I destroyed the shackles of oppression, I have drained the bog- the mire of injustice, and I have found peace in a land of tyranny!â - (Philzaâs Just a regular day: 1:19:47, 16th Dec)
âRanboo, donât you think Phil can leave his house? He can leave his house, canât he, Ranboo?â (Ghostbur)
âHe canât, heâs legally not able to.â (Ranboo)
âBut- Where men can go and emancipate. Do you know what emancipate means?â (Ghostbur)
- (Philzaâs Just a regular day: 1:20:05, 16th Dec)
âBut LâManbergâs all about freedom, and doing whatever you want, and being able to be whoever you want and go where you want.â - (Philzaâs Just a regular day: 1:20:25, 16th Dec)
âI just took down the cage that you built, âcause I think that was a mistake. And I think maybe Philza should be let out of his house because heâs a citizen of LâManberg.â - (Philzaâs Just a regular day: 1:20:35, 16th Dec)
âWhy- Why did you- Why did you blow up LâManberg?â - (Wilburâs First Time Ghostbur Live: 17:19, 6th Jan)
âYou knew Friend was in your house! You knew! Stop! Stop! Stop! You knew Friend was in your house! You knew everything everyone owned was in this town!â - (Wilburâs First Time Ghostbur Live: 17:39, 6th Jan)
âI donât- I donât- I donât- I donât want to listen- I donât want to hear what you have to say. I donât want to have to hear what you have to say. I- I- Iâve read the history books, Phil. Iâve read the history books. You- You- You slayed the dragon, you slayed Alivebur. You were the- You- You are the St George of the Dream SMP. We understand, everyone understands that, Phil. But, look what youâve done. How can you look at this and still see yourself as a hero. Sending a message, Phil. Sending a message?â - (Wilburâs First Time Ghostbur Live: 17:58, 6th Jan)
âMe? Iâve just been, you know, having a nice time wandering. Iâve been wandering around LâManberg, something keeps drawing me to LâManberg, so Iâve just sorta been hanging out there. I donât really know what Iâm gonna do.â - (Tubboâs Exploding Stuff w/ Tommy: 39:05, 22nd Apr)
âI donât know it just feels like I have to be there, you know?â - (Tubboâs Exploding Stuff w/ Tommy: 39:17, 22nd Apr)
-He didnât leave, nor escaped consequences, nor pressured Phil into killing him. He committed suicide
âNo you two can escape, Iâll be the⌠Iâll- Iâll- Iâll be⌠Iâll be trapped in hereâŚâ - (Wilburâs Speedy Stream Festival What festival: 27:27, 17th Oct)
âI just- I just want to f⌠I just wanna end it, I wanna end it. I wanna press that button, man.â - (Wilburâs Speedy Stream Festival What festival: 28:08, 17th Oct)
âMy LâManberg. My LâManberg. As long- As long as I know the button is here⌠as long as I know. As long as I know the button is here. Itâs just not today. I just need to know that itâs there for a fall-back. I need to know itâs there.â - (Wilburâs Speedy Stream Festival What festival: 33:46, 17th Oct)
âIâve been hasty. But the fact that I know itâs there, and I can just stroke my right mouse button, thatâs all I need. As long as I know itâs there.â - (Wilburâs Speedy Stream Festival What festival: 34:27, 17th Oct)
âChekhovâs Gun. Chekhovâs Gun. Iâll be honest with you, chat, Iâve been wondering this whole time if it still works. Iâve been thinking to myself does it still- âCause I fixed it up for today.â - (Wilburâs smithereens: 1:11:36, 16th Nov)
âPhil, Iâm always so close to pressing this button, Phil! I have been here, like seven or eight times I have been here⌠Seven or eight timesâ - (Wilburâs smithereens: 1:14:56, 16th Nov)
âPhil, Iâve been here here so many times.â - (Wilburâs smithereens: 1:15:13, 16th Nov)
âI donât even know if it works anymore, Phil. I donât even know if the button works. I could, I could⌠press it, and it might-â (Wilburâs smithereens: 1:15:29, 16th Nov)
âThere was a saying, Phil, by a traitor, once part of LâManberg. A traitor I donât know if youâve heard of Eret? He had a saying, Phil. It was never meant to be.â - (Wilburâs smithereens: 1:15:56, 16th Nov)
âMy LâManberg, Phil! My unfinished symphony! Forever unfinished! If I canât have this, no one can, Phil!â - (Wilburâs smithereens: 1:16:40, 16th Nov)
âKill me Phil. Phil kill me. Phil, kill me. Phil, stab me with a sword, murder me now. Kill me. Killza. Killza. Do it. Murder me. Look, they all want you to! Do it Phil, kill me. Phil, kill me.â - (Wilburâs video Finale: 30:22)
âGod youâre⌠Youâre my son!â (Philza)
âPhil, kill me!â (Wilbur)
-(Wilburâs video Finale: 30:34)
âLook! Look! How much work went into this and itâs gone?!â - (Wilburâs video Finale: 30:42)
âDo it. Do it.â - (Wilburâs smithereens: 1:17:20, 16th Nov)
âDo you wanna be alive again?â (Tubbo)
âOh, hell no. No. God, oh god.â (Alivebur)
- (Tommyâs The Dream SMP Finale: 1:29:22, 20th Jan)
âWe can bring you back.â (Tommy)
âWâ What?â (Alivebur)
- (Tommyâs The Dream SMP Finale: 1:31:46, 20th Jan)
âThe reason why Dream isnât dead now, off his own server, banned, is because we can bring you back.â (Tommy)
âYâ Wâ Iâ But Iâ Iâ I donât- I donât wanna- I- I donât.â (Alivebur)
- (Tommyâs The Dream SMP Finale: 1:31:53, 20th Jan)
âAre you sure?â (Tubbo)
âWâ You made aâ You⌠You made aâ The one person on the server who isâ I⌠You wantâ Let me get it straight. So you managed to get the discs by⌠Wait, so the reason Dreamâs not dead is because you want me back alive?â (Alivebur)
- (Tommyâs The Dream SMP Finale: 1:32:09, 20th Jan)
âGuys, Iâ What the fuck have you done?! What have you done?! The one thing I wanted was to stay fucking dead!â - (Tommyâs The Dream SMP Finale: 1:33:30, 20th Jan)
âIâm really happy youâre here, man. I felt this place growing for you in here, right? And you know why Iâm glad, Tommy, you know why Iâm glad? Because me and you were never good for that server. We just werenât. Like, you can look at the whole history of the server, and it all falls in our laps, the problems, right.â - (Tommyâs am i dead?: 9:35, 4th March)
âThink about it, everything thatâs gone wrong, is down to us, it lies at our footsteps.â - (Tommyâs am i dead?: 9:59, 4th March)
âHereâs the thing, I genuinely think, if it werenât for me and you dying right, the server would be in shambles. I know for a fact that if I come back, or if Iâm brought back to life in some way itâs definitely gonna just go [shit again]â - (Tommyâs am i dead?: 10:10, 4th March)
âI know what Iâm like, thatâs the issue.â - (Tommyâs am i dead?: 10:29, 4th March)
âTommy, I thought I wanted to die. All those- That decade and and a half ago, I thought I wanted to die. I thought I wanted to die, but now Iâve seen what hell is, now Iâve seen the other side!â - (Tommyâs Breaking Into Prison To Kill Dream: 58:05, 29th Apr)
âAre you trying to- Are you trying to make me- Tommy, are you trying to make me- You remember that time in the cave? Are you trying- Are you trying do- Are you trying to make me feel like I did back then, in Pogtopia? Are you trying to- Are you trying to make me feel as bad as I did back then? âCause itâs not gonna work!â - (Tommyâs Breaking Into Prison To Kill Dream: 59:06, 29th Apr)
-He wasn't in fact abusive in Pogtopia
Since this would be proving a negative, refer back to prior points regarding his care for people, his situation during Pogtopia, his care for L'Manburg and its people, etc
-Heâs only taken one life (which was canonized only in retrospect)
This was Jack Manifold's second life, canonized as being killed by Wilbur in the Manburg vs Pogtopia war, so... you know... A goddamn WAR. And this was also not a canon life at the time, being turned canon in retrospect due to the canonization of Jack "losing his lives and going to hell just to crawl out of it"
-He wanted Phil to be proud of him and not worry (which is why he lied in the letters)
âI miss Philza. I wonder if heâd be proud of me.â - (Wilburâs The Festival: 52:17, 16th Oct)
âIâm excited to meet Phil. I, I hope he-â - (Wilburâs resurrected gentleman of L'manburg: 44:10, 5th May)
âPhil, I- ⌠Phil, Iâve made an agreement with myself that I wouldnât lie now that Iâve been brought back to life, because the thing is, Phil, I wasnât that big of a liar in the first place but just y- Try- Imagine youâre at summer camp, Phil! Imagine youâre away at summer camp, and youâre having the worst shit time of your life but your parents are paying good money for it right. And your parents ask you, 'hey, how are you doing at summer camp?â, Iâm not gonna write back, 'Oh yeah, itâs fine, the counsellorâs just burnt down the group house, but weâre having a great time!â. You know, no, Iâm gonna tell you itâs going great, Iâm gonna tell you itâs marvellous. I did it to save your feelings, Phil, and Iâm⌠Iâm sorry I forgot to write, and thatâs why you ended up coming down, but, like itâs not- It wasnât spite, it wasnât spite, I promise.â - (Wilburâs resurrected gentleman of L'manburg: 50:37, 5th May)
-He tends to project his own feelings when talking to other people about how he sees they feel
âWhen I look at you, as a fellow outsider⌠youâre not ready for that. Iâm leaving.â - (Quackityâs Killing My Enemies: 1:06:48, 12th Apr)
âTommyinnit, youâre scared that people are gonna think differently of you. Tommy, when I said youâre never gonna be president, you gotta understand, that wasnât a challenge, thatâs true. Youâre never gonna be president, Tommy. And I can hear it in your voice, youâre trying sound like you know what youâre doing, so that you can prove me wrong. Tommy, none of us know what weâre doing. Weâre fucked, we were fucked the minute we were thrown out.â - (Wilburâs video Am I the Villain?: 19:39)
âAnd, I know youâre scared, Tommy, I understand youâre scared. And itâs scary, itâs scary, Tommy, but do you know what? You know what? In a time like this, when a man has nothing to lose, do you know what that means? It means we can do what we want - (Wilburâs who are you go away: 1:15:52, 8th Oct)
âIâm really happy youâre here, man. I felt this place growing for you in here, right? And you know why Iâm glad, Tommy, you know why Iâm glad? Because me and you were never good for that server. We just werenât. Like, you can look at the whole history of the server, and it all falls in our laps, the problems, right.â - (Tommyâs am i dead?: 9:35, 4th March)
âThink about it, everything thatâs gone wrong, is down to us, it lies at our footsteps.â - (Tommyâs am i dead?: 9:59, 4th March)
âHereâs the thing, I genuinely think, if it werenât for me and you dying right, the server would be in shambles. I know for a fact that if I come back, or if Iâm brought back to life in some way itâs definitely gonna just go [shit again]â - (Tommyâs am i dead?: 10:10, 4th March)
âSounds like youâve set yourself up for a bit of a stressful life with this.â - (Wilburâs Healthy Competition: 26:23, 25th July)
âIâve been investing into the wrong areas, Ranboo. Iâve been investing into the wrong, wrong people. Weâre kindred, man. We get each other.â - (Wilburâs Healthy Competition: 39:13, 25th July)
âWe may have so much different, but you know what the one thing weâve got in common, our strongest point, and you mustnât take offence to this. Neuroticism.â - (Wilburâs Healthy Competition: 39:26, 25th July)
âMe and you are just as neurotic as each other, just as nervous. But the thing is, itâs not our downfall, you know. Anxiety isnât necessarily, you know, an evil trait to have. Anxiety is what kept our ancestors alive, Ranboo. You, me, your parents, whoever they may be, my parents. Do you know how theyâre alive? Because they were anxious. They didnât let another thing kill them, they didnât let another thing take them down. Our ancestors, the cavemen in the words, or caveendermen, I guess. They were anxious when they heard the lion roar, the were anxious when they heard the wolf howl. And you know what they did? They got inside and they hid. And thatâs why weâre here today.â - (Wilburâs Healthy Competition: 39:37, 25th July)
âRanboo, me and you are neurotic, and thatâs why weâre alive right now, talking to each other and doing this.â - (Wilburâs Healthy Competition: 40:25, 25th July)
-He feels inhuman. He knows that people see him as a freak, evil or crazy and that makes him feel dehumanized
âTommyInnit, as you know, is just, he thinks Iâm insane. Iâm not insane, chat, Iâm not insane.â - (Wilburâs The Festival: 4:30, 16th Oct)
âSee, Iâm not so crazy, Tommy. I know what Iâm doing.â - (Wilburâs The Festival: 16:40, 16th Oct)
âIâve told you, Iâm not crazy, Tommy. I know what Iâm doing, and this is genuinely the best thing we could do right now.â - (Wilburâs The Festival: 17:18, 16th Oct)
âIâm not crazy! How am I crazy?!â - (Wilburâs Speedy Stream Festival What festival: 43:18, 17th Oct)
âHistory is written by the winners.â (Ghostbur)
âYeah, and he, he technically won. I mean, he did what he wanted to.â (Ranboo)
âBut then he lost and everyone hates him.â (Ghostbur)
- (Ranbooâs Preparation: 13:55, 14th Mar)
âEveryone I seem to meet has this deep intrisnic feeling of disgust towards me. Jack Manifold seemed to be quite nice to me, but I reckon he, I could feel it, you know, in his stare. But like, you donât have that. I can tell youâre a good guy.â - (Wilburâs resurrected gentleman of L'manburg: 30:24, 5th May)
âQuackity, Iâve, Iâve, Iâve, Iâll be honest you with you, Iâve lost everything, man. I, um. Iâve lost decades of my life. Iâve lost my- most of the people who cared about me. Some people donât even know Iâm back yet, and I, and I think thatâs probably for the best. So I feel like that does humble a man. That really humbles a man, you know?â â (Wilburâs A Deck of Cards with a Green Smile on them: 1:00:52, 31st May)
âListen, Phil, I met, I met Quackity. After you very kindly lent me your house. I went and met him. Yeah! I met up with him, and I hadnât seen him in ages. It was, Iâm gonna say it, it was nice. It was a nice time. I- I- It felt good, it felt, uh, you know, he didnât, he didnât seem afraid of me, which is cool.â - (Wilburâs Healthy Competition: 7:38, 25th July)
âNot many people do. I mean, Phil, you donât seem afraid of me, youâre not afraid of me, are you, Phil?â - (Wilburâs Healthy Competition: 8:03, 25th July)
âGood, good. 'Cause Iâm not afraid of you.â - (Wilburâs Healthy Competition: 8:10, 25th July)
âWhy? Why? ⌠No, no, no, no, no, not the, not the bit about the, not the bit about the right foot, the why donât you think Iâm a bad person?â - (Wilburâs Healthy Competition: 35:13, 25th July)
âCan I be real with you, man? I think I scare people.â - (Wilburâs Healthy Competition: 36:30, 25th July)
âI mean, like I, I, I, I donât think I, I- I think a lot of people share your idea, but they share your idea in trying to- trying to keep me from hurting them, you know? Like theyâve seen what I can do, and they donât want me to do it again, so they adopt your emotion in order to do it.â - (Wilburâs Healthy Competition: 36:46, 25th July)
âDream is- Heâs had his comeuppance, and I have not! My comeuppance was apparently not good enough for this people. Theyâre just waiting, theyâre waiting for the next thing for me to slip up on, and, Ranboo, Iâm not gonna fucking slip up, Ranboo. Iâm different.â - (Wilburâs Healthy Competition: 38:07, 25th July)
âIâm living in eternal limbo, again. Iâve been through limbo, Iâm out of limbo, and socially, Iâm still in this limbo.â - (Wilburâs Healthy Competition: 38:36, 25th July)
âIâm sorry I wasnât, you know, entirely on the same page. But, man, I promise you, Iâve calmed down, you know, Iâm all, Iâm all settled in. I understand, you know, whatâs changed, what hasnât, whoâs new, whoâs old, you know, whoâs still about, you know, who⌠Who, uh⌠uh⌠Who trusts me and stuff.â - (Wilburâs A Year Later: 15:04, 3rd Aug)
âI relived that explosion in my head so many times man. And, and, and I- I get that you donât, you donât trust me, I do, but like, man, look at me, bro, Iâm not gonna do it again. Iâm not gonna- Iâm not gonna hurt you again.â - (Wilburâs A Year Later: 21:21, 3rd Aug)
âRanboo, I want to say thank you, man, for, you know, for trusting me this quick. I mean youâve barely, youâve barely known me like, you know, very long, and youâve instantly just, you know. Youâve done all this with me and youâve worked with me, and I- You know, I donât, I donât know where Iâd be without you here right now, manâ - (Wilburâs A Year Later: 28:20, 3rd Aug)
âWhen I look at him⌠When I look at him, when heâs helping me out, building things with me⌠I see the same eyes that looked at me when, whenâŚâ - (Wilburâs A Year Later: 28:43, 3rd Aug)
âThere werenât some fun times in the ravine of Pogtopia. I wasnât a very well man. And I can just see Tommy from that day.â - (Wilburâs A Year Later: 28:54, 3rd Aug)
âBut like I was saying, though, Ranboo, I, I really appreciate it, man. I- Thank you for trusting me.â - (Wilburâs A Year Later: 29:11, 3rd Aug)
âI feel alive, Ranboo, I feel alive. Someoneâs looking at me and talking to me! Iâm alive, Iâm alive! This is great.â - (Wilburâs Unhealthy Competition: 27:22, 4th Aug)
-He did in fact spend 13 and a half years in limbo. Alone. In the dark. Deprived of everything
âI- I feel so numb, I feel⌠Who- Wh- Are you- Who the fuck- Who the fuck is this- Who the fuckâs, Friend?â - (Tommyâs Breaking Into Prison To Kill Dream: 52:28, 29th Apr)
âIâm sor- Iâve obviously- No, no, no, no. Iâve obviously missed a beat here. Iâve missed a beat. Whatâs happening? Why am I here?â - (Tommyâs Breaking Into Prison To Kill Dream: 52:54, 29th Apr)
âI have spent thirteen and a half years, in the fucking-!â - (Tommyâs Breaking Into Prison To Kill Dream: 54:05, 29th Apr)
âI can- I can feelâŚâ - (Tommyâs Breaking Into Prison To Kill Dream: 54:23, 29th Apr)
âTommy, I- Tommy, I donât know if you remember- ⌠Tommy, I donât if you- Do you remember when you came to visit me briefly? That was lovely, by the way. I cherished that day you came to visit me, TommyInnit. I cherished that. Remember when we played competitive solitaire for like three months! It was brilliant! I wish youâd dropped in longer.â - (Tommyâs Breaking Into Prison To Kill Dream: 55:29, 29th Apr)
Tommy, I donât know if you remember me telling you this, it was quite a few years ago for me now. But my personal limbo was a train platform, Tommy. It was a train platform. No matter where I look, no matter where I went, just concrete walls all around, and a tube with a track running straight along.â - (Tommyâs Breaking Into Prison To Kill Dream: 56:33, 29th Apr)
âIt doesnât matter what I did, Tommy. I could claw on the walls, I could bash on the doors, I could scream for help- I screamed until my lungs were sore, till my voice was hoarse. And nothing ever changes, nothing ever comes, nothing ever helps you, Tommy.â - (Tommyâs Breaking Into Prison To Kill Dream: 57:00, 29th Apr)
âAnd then you arrive, you arrive, and it was great! And then you left. You got on a train and you left.â - (Tommyâs Breaking Into Prison To Kill Dream: 57:12, 29th Apr)
âWell, I, Iâm in my forties now, Tommy. I mean, Iâm- Uh. I counted the years, man. How old are you now, what, you must be like, what, twenty, thirty? Youâre in your twenties, thirties now? How old are you? I mean itâs been a long time. Itâs been thirteen years.â - (Wilburâs resurrected gentleman of L'manburg: 9:00, 5th May)
âI had thirteen years, I had thirteen years in complete solitude, Phil. Mostly complete solitude. In a dim room. No, no, Phil, itâs like method acting. Iâve- I- I- I- I- Honestly, if youâd got me out of there about six years into it, man, you would have not liked to see me then. I was, I was not in a good state six years ago. But now, man, now, thirteen years later? Itâs like I came full circle, Iâm a new man, Iâm a fresh face. Isnât that right, Tommy?â - (Wilburâs resurrected gentleman of L'manburg: 52:07, 5th May)
âOkay. Tubbo, Iâve literally- I was dead for thirteen years. I know it wasnât long for you, I know it was only a couple months for you, but, thirteen years, Tubbo. Thirteen years of my life. I aged! Look at me, Iâm not the same young man you knew!â - (Wilburâs A Year Later: 20:52, 3rd Aug)
âIâve, Iâve been through it. And in those thirteen years, Tubbo, I wasnât just sat twiddling my thumbs just going 'Oo this is nice, oh, Iâm in darkness right nowâ. You know, I was, I was thinking.â - (Wilburâs A Year Later: 21:10, 3rd Aug)
âI relived that explosion in my head so many times man. And, and, and I- I get that you donât, you donât trust me, I do, but like, man, look at me, bro, Iâm not gonna do it again. Iâm not gonna- Iâm not gonna hurt you again.â - (Wilburâs A Year Later: 21:21, 3rd Aug)
Heâs missing huge chunks of information, even with some of Ghostburâs memories (since he doesnât know about doomsday, we can know that he at least doesnât exactly know about everything Ghostbur even saw, and with Ghostburâs memory issues in mind, we could assume heâs missing whatever Ghostburâs mind considered a âbad memoryâ):
âOhh, fuck! Did I- Did I do that? Oo, thatâs not a good look, is it? Thatâs not a good look for me.â - (Tommyâs Breaking Into Prison To Kill Dream: 53:06, 29th Apr)
âOhhh. Ohh, no. Oh I really did a number on this place, huh? Oh ho, ho, ho boy! Oh dear! Oh no! I really did a number here.â - (Tommyâs Breaking Into Prison To Kill Dream: 53:23, 29th Apr)
âI remember the prison, because Iâve got- I remember some of what Ghostbur remembers.â - (Wilburâs resurrected gentleman of L'manburg: 12:21, 5th May)
âTommy, do you remember when you got sent into exile? Yeah. I remember. I was there, Tommy, I was there. I was there. I was in the cage of that little ghostâs fucking head. Every single step you and me took-â - (Wilburâs resurrected gentleman of L'manburg: 20:23, 5th May)
âLook at me, Tommy. Look me in the eyes. Every single step me and you took, I was there, I was there. I had no control of what was happening, I have no idea what was being said. But, Tommy, Iâll tell you what, if I was there, and if it wasnât that stupid shell of a ghost instead of me, I would have struck down Dream right where he stood. We would have disembowelled him, we would have disembowelled him together. Together.â - (Wilburâs resurrected gentleman of L'manburg: 20:42, 5th May)
âTommy, Iâm not, Iâm not- I wasnât blind, I saw what he was doing to you, Tommy. I saw. I saw what he was doing to Tubbo. I saw what he did to me.â - (Wilburâs resurrected gentleman of L'manburg: 21:08, 5th May)
âHe seems- I remember him as a good guy. Ghostbur really liked this guy. I have this memory.â - (Wilburâs resurrected gentleman of L'manburg: 27:59, 5th May)
âSo, Las Nevadas, Snowchester⌠I thought- Techno and Phil told me they were successful- Well, just Phil, I havenât spoken to Techno since it happened. But like, Phil told me that they were successful and that thereâs no more nations anymore, and that itâs anarchy. â - (Wilburâs Healthy Competition: 45:50, 25th July)
âWait and thatâs- Hold on. Why would, why would Techno and Phil do this? Why would Techno and Phil want to blow up L'Manberg? Didnât they live here? I mean, I donât know about Techno but-â - (Wilburâs A Year Later: 18:18, 3rd Aug)
âAnd it was just Techno and Phil?â (Alivebur)
âYesâŚâ (Tubbo)
- (Wilburâs A Year Later: 18:39, 3rd Aug)
âSorry, thatâs kinda⌠hit me. Not, not the blowing up part, I mean, Iâve done that. You know, Iâm not, Iâm not shaken up about that. The thing Iâm shaken up about, man, is that, you rebuilt this. After Iâd gone.â - (Wilburâs A Year Later: 18:48, 3rd Aug)
âOh yeah the fucking ghost- Who car- You rebuilt this!â - (Wilburâs A Year Later: 19:03, 3rd Aug)
Heâs expressed that heâs ecstatic to be alive again and never wants to go back to limbo:
âOhhh. Ohhh, Tommy. Ohh, Tommy. Tommy, this is bliss!â - (Tommyâs Breaking Into Prison To Kill Dream: 54:32, 29th Apr)
âOh my god the sunrise. Whereâs the sun- I need to watch the sun rise. Oh! Tommy, Iâve waited so fucking long. Tommy, I have been waiting over a decade, in near darkness. This is my sunrise. This is my sunrise. This is mine! This is mine, Tubbo!â - (Tommyâs Breaking Into Prison To Kill Dream: 54:43, 29th Apr)
âTommy, it was the worst time of my fucking life, Tommy. Tommy, I donât know if you know-â - (Tommyâs Breaking Into Prison To Kill Dream: 55:53, 29th Apr)
âTommy, I thought I wanted to die. All those- That decade and and a half ago, I thought I wanted to die. I thought I wanted to die, but now Iâve seen what hell is, now Iâve seen the other side!â - (Tommyâs Breaking Into Prison To Kill Dream: 58:05, 29th Apr)
âTommy, Iâve been given a new lease on life. Thereâs so much I need to do, Tommy. Thereâs so much Iâve gotta do. Thereâs so much! Tubbo, are you coming, and RanbooâŚ?â - (Tommyâs Breaking Into Prison To Kill Dream: 58:16, 29th Apr)
âAre you trying to- Are you trying to make me- Tommy, are you trying to make me- You remember that time in the cave? Are you trying- Are you trying do- Are you trying to make me feel like I did back then, in Pogtopia? Are you trying to- Are you trying to make me feel as bad as I did back then? âCause itâs not gonna work!â - (Tommyâs Breaking Into Prison To Kill Dream: 59:06, 29th Apr)
âI have this lease on life, and by god, if lifeâs a fucking horse, Iâm gonna ride it, Tommy! Iâm sor- Iâve gotta go. Iâve got things to do, Iâve got things to plan. Iâll see you soon, alright? Iâll see you next time. Alright, bye guys! Bye, bye!â - (Tommyâs Breaking Into Prison To Kill Dream: 59:24, 29th Apr)
âNo, no, no, oh no, god forbid, god for- I can eat, I can feel. Hit me, pinch me, pinch me. Ah! See? Iâm tangible.â â (Wilburâs A Deck of Cards with a Green Smile on them: 21:58, 31st May)
-He really regrets what happened in Pogtopia
I need to make some apologies. I told you I needed to have a think. And I donât think an apology will ever sum up what I did here, I mean, look at this mess.â - (Wilburâs resurrected gentleman of L'manburg: 8:00, 5th May)
âBut like I think, I think I do need to um. I need to apologise to some people, you know, Iâve gotta make amends. Iâve gotta make amends, and I promise thatâs true.â - (Wilburâs resurrected gentleman of L'manburg: 8:27, 5th May)
âI know- Look at me, look at me in the eyes. I know itâs hard to believe when you look at me, that I⌠you know- Iâve turned over a new leaf, Iâve turned over a new leaf, you know. Iâm feeling good! Iâm feeling really, really⌠well. In the head, in the body. I feel limber.â - (Wilburâs resurrected gentleman of L'manburg: 8:38, 5th May)
âI wanna apologise to Skeppy. You know, I wanna say sorry to Skeppy if Skeppy has got some problems with me.â - (Wilburâs resurrected gentleman of L'manburg: 12:45, 5th May)
âNo, I need to apologise, man. Itâs important that IâŚâ - (Wilburâs resurrected gentleman of L'manburg: 12:59, 5th May)
âJack, I came here for one simple reason, Jack. One simple reason. Jack, itâs super simple! Jack, Iâm sorry. Iâm sorry I didnât grant freedom and liberty to Manifoldland, and Iâm sorry I led you into war that you didnât have faith in, Iâm sorry that I denied you access to the election, and Iâm sorry you were just kinda left behind the whole time. Iâm sorry. And Iâm especially sorry for of course blowing up your house and your world.â - (Wilburâs resurrected gentleman of L'manburg: 22:59, 5th May)
âHm. Yes. I am. Yep. I am. And I- You donât have to forgive me, you donât have to accept my apology, I will- I will, em- Iâll go, uh, but yeah.â - (Wilburâs resurrected gentleman of L'manburg: 23:33, 5th May)
âListen, Tommy, Tommy, and in my oath of not lying, Iâm gonna tell you now, Tommy, Iâm sorry for a couple things, to each of these people, right, on the server. Iâm sorry to a lot of them, except for Phil. I have nothing to apologise to Phil for, Phil has done nothing wrong.â - (Wilburâs resurrected gentleman of L'manburg: 24:50, 5th May)
âTommy, Iâve said this before, I have no issue with anyone on the server. I am deeply apologetic.â - (Wilburâs resurrected gentleman of L'manburg: 28:47, 5th May)
âTommyâs very suspicious of me because of who I was, you know? Who I was, but itâs uh. Look, Iâm apologetic, Iâm genuinely I, I feel very bad for everything that I did, and I shanât do something similar to that again.â - (Wilburâs resurrected gentleman of L'manburg: 30:55, 5th May)
âQuackity, Iâve, Iâve, Iâve, Iâll be honest you with you, Iâve lost everything, man. I, um. Iâve lost decades of my life. Iâve lost my- most of the people who cared about me. Some people donât even know Iâm back yet, and I, and I think thatâs probably for the best. So I feel like that does humble a man. That really humbles a man, you know? Life is paved with the mistakes you make, and uh, itâs not about when you made the mistakes or what you did, itâs about how you can improve from them, you know? And thatâs what um, I guess thatâs what Iâm trying to do.â â (Wilburâs A Deck of Cards with a Green Smile on them: 1:00:52, 31st May)
âUh, I saw Jack Manifold, I saw Phil, I saw this Ranboo guy, Tommy, obviously, and now you. I mean thereâs lots of people who I wish I could see, like I wish I could just tell them like âIâm alive!â and, and apologise, and also thank them.â â (Wilburâs A Deck of Cards with a Green Smile on them: 1:01:38, 31st May)
âAlright. I mean, Iâm trying to move past that kinda stuffâŚâ - (Wilburâs Healthy Competition: 7:21, 25th July)
âLook, Iâm not, Iâm not, Iâm not coming at you here like judging you. I- Iâm not one to talk about conflict, man.â - (Wilburâs Healthy Competition: 33:27, 25th July)
âDo you know all it took- Do you know I demolished Jack Manifoldâs house, twice. I brutally ignored him during the war of L'Man- He fought for my country, and I ignored him. I didnât look at him, I didnât give him so much as a medal, I didnât give so much as a rank. I gave him the lowest rank on the cabinet. And do you what it took, do you know what it took for him to forgive me? A sorry.â - (Wilburâs Healthy Competition: 37:10, 25th July)
âIâm sorry I wasnât, you know, entirely on the same page. But, man, I promise you, Iâve calmed down, you know, Iâm all, Iâm all settled in. I understand, you know, whatâs changed, what hasnât, whoâs new, whoâs old, you know, whoâs still about, you know, who⌠Who, uh⌠uh⌠Who trusts me and stuff.â - (Wilburâs A Year Later: 15:04, 3rd Aug)
âSuper simply, man. I just want to say I- I want to say Iâm sorry. For one thing mainly, uh, Iâve been thinking about this for y- Literal years, literal years Iâve been thinking about this. Uh, Iâm sorry for, uh, Iâm sorry for making you president specifically before blowing it up. And Iâm sorry for when I did this and blew all this up and making this hole, Iâm sorry that I, uh, I said you were the president of a crater. I just want to say that Iâm sorry, Iâm really, really sorry.â - (Wilburâs A Year Later: 15:56, 3rd Aug)
âI relived that explosion in my head so many times man. And, and, and I- I get that you donât, you donât trust me, I do, but like, man, look at me, bro, Iâm not gonna do it again. Iâm not gonna- Iâm not gonna hurt you again.â - (Wilburâs A Year Later: 21:21, 3rd Aug)
âI know you had that- at the festival, with Technoblade. I never spoke to you properly about this. I- I could have saved you.â - (Wilburâs A Year Later: 21:41, 3rd Aug)
âTubbo, Iâm- Iâm reaching out to you here, man, Iâm on my knees, bro. Like, I- Iâm sorry, Iâm really, really sorry. And I literally, your forgiveness means so much to me, but it doesnât, it doesnât give up what I did to you, and it doesnât give up how I failed you as a friend⌠you know, as a, I mean, fuck being, as a co-worker, but just you know, anything.â - (Wilburâs A Year Later: 21:56, 3rd Aug)
âTubbo, like, man, Iâm- I want to make it up to you. And you know what? I appreciate that you donât trust me yet. I do.â - (Wilburâs A Year Later: 22:26, 3rd Aug)
âTubbo, I, I really appreciate it. And I mean that, genuinely. I appreciate it. And Iâm gonna go out and Iâm gonna, Iâm gonna prove to you that Iâm worth being trusted again. I promise.â - (Wilburâs A Year Later: 22:44, 3rd Aug)
âIâll do it. Iâll do it. Iâll redeem myself.â - (Wilburâs A Year Later: 22:55, 3rd Aug)
âI- Tubbo, Tubbo, I know, I know, Tubbo, Tubbo, Tubbo, Tubbo, please, I know. Iâm sorry, Iâm sorry.â - (Wilburâs A Year Later: 23:13, 3rd Aug)
âIt feels like such a weak word. I feel like thereâs nothing stronger that I can say. And I, and I, and I understand what you mean about how my actions need to reflect it and they will.â - (Wilburâs A Year Later: 23:20, 3rd Aug)
âGive me time. Iâm gonna, Iâm gonna make something, Iâm gonna make something of this and Iâm gonna⌠UmâŚâ - (Wilburâs A Year Later: 23:20, 3rd Aug)
âThis is- I mean, Iâve gotta, Iâve gotta- You know, I was gonna say this is hard, but obviously itâs hard, I mean Iâve⌠Itâs⌠Itâs difficult. Itâs difficult, man.â - (Wilburâs A Year Later: 25:20, 3rd Aug)
âBut, you know, itâs, itâs gonna get better, itâs gonna get better and itâs gonna be worth it when I see them smiling, all of them. Tubbo, Jack, Niki, Tommy. Anyone!â - (Wilburâs A Year Later: 25:32, 3rd Aug)
-He doesnât want to be like Dream really, he just wants his punishment to be visible (and considers him his hero for taking him out of the horrid experience that was limbo coupled with him missing huge chunks of information about what went down when he was dead)
âMy hero! My fucking hero, Dream, saved me from that hell!â - (Tommyâs Breaking Into Prison To Kill Dream: 58:00, 29th Apr)
âI had no control of what was happening, I have no idea what was being said. But, Tommy, Iâll tell you what, if I was there, and if it wasnât that stupid shell of a ghost instead of me, I would have struck down Dream right where he stood. We would have disembowelled him, we would have disembowelled him together. Together.â - (Wilburâs resurrected gentleman of L'manburg: 20:42, 5th May)
âTommy, Iâm not, Iâm not- I wasnât blind, I saw what he was doing to you, Tommy. I saw. I saw what he was doing to Tubbo. I saw what he did to me.â - (Wilburâs resurrected gentleman of L'manburg: 21:08, 5th May)
âDream was the only that held my seat for me. He kept it warm, he kept my throne warm, and you guys didnât like that, so you threw him in prison. And if Dream died instead of me, I would be in there right now.â - (Wilburâs resurrected gentleman of L'manburg: 22:07, 5th May)
âSo, Tommy, you should thank that I wasnât alive to attack Dream when we got exiled. You should glad we had little passive Ghostbur, because now Dreamâs in there, and Iâm out here, baby. And I wanna stretch my legs, letâs go for a walk.â - (Wilburâs resurrected gentleman of L'manburg: 22:19, 5th May)
âBecause, because, if you hadnât done that, I would have ended up living in the- I would have been exiled with TommyInnit, and then I would have gotten angry at Dream 'cause Dream canât go around hurting Tommy like that. I would have gotten angry at Dream and I would have tried to fight Dream. Which I now see would have been a silly move because Dreamâs my hero, Dreamâs amazing! So like, I would have ended up fighting Dream, and then, I would have been the one in prison and not Dream.â - (Wilburâs resurrected gentleman of L'manburg: 48:52, 5th May)
âWell, yes, but I wouldnât have stood for Dreamâs shit. Whilst Tubbo did stand for it, you know, but thatâs fair enough, I donât hold it against him.â - (Wilburâs resurrected gentleman of L'manburg: 49:27, 5th May)
âImagine if Dream said sorry to Jack Manifold, whatâs Dream done to Jack Manifold, huh? Barely anything.â - (Wilburâs Healthy Competition: 37:42, 25th July)
âI imagine if Dream said sorry to Jack Manifold, Jack Manifold would ignore him. Do you know why? Because Dreamâs in prison and Iâm not!â - (Wilburâs Healthy Competition: 37:57, 25th July)
âDream is- Heâs had his comeuppance, and I have not! My comeuppance was apparently not good enough for this people. Theyâre just waiting, theyâre waiting for the next thing for me to slip up on, and, Ranboo, Iâm not gonna fucking slip up, Ranboo. Iâm different.â - (Wilburâs Healthy Competition: 38:07, 25th July)
âIâm not Dream. God I wish I was! Sometimes, I wish, I wish Iâd gotten that comeuppance, but, Ranboo, Iâm not Dream, and Iâm not gonna be Dream.â - (Wilburâs Healthy Competition: 38:22, 25th July)
-He believes he doesnât have inherent worth as a human, thus he has to serve a role in some big plan or win people over to stay with him
âTubbo, I donât know if you are just preferring his rule over mine, and I- I feel like Iâve got to win you over.â - (Wilburâs techno and wilbur make cave better: 1:22:15, 23rd Sep)
âDream, let me be your vassal. Dream, I understand you have a lot of TNT, a lot of the olâ trinitrotoluene in your possession, donât you? You do! Dream, I want to be your vassal, I want to set this up, I want to rig the city.â - (Wilburâs who are you go away: 1:33:27, 8th Oct)
âI sort of made a deal with Dream. Look, I made a deal with Dream. Iâm fighting on your side, Iâll fight for the side of LâManberg. But the minute you guys start losing, Iâm detonating that entire thing. Iâm blowing the entire place up. And Dream said thatâs fine, Dream said thatâs allowed. So thatâs what Iâm doing.â - (Wilburâs The Meeting: 58:44, 6th Nov)
You stick with me, man, just stick with me, just stick with the winning side. Stick with the side who stands for something, stick with the side who believes in something. And weâll, weâll find it out.â - (Wilburâs resurrected gentleman of L'manburg: 42:57, 5th May)
âTommyâs only known me for a few hours now. I mean I disappeared after coming back to life, 'cause- Iâve made some plans, Iâve made some plans. Which, donât worry, youâll be hearing about them first, Phil. Iâm getting you in, Iâm getting you in on the ground floor, right. And you Tommy, and you Tommy, of course. But like, youâve gotta understand- Theyâre not ready yet, the plans arenât ready yet.â - (Wilburâs resurrected gentleman of L'manburg: 52:59, 5th May)
âTommy, Iâm impressed, man. I, honestly- Can I be honest with you, Tommy? I, um. Look, Iâve gotta be honest with you, man, like, like, Wilbur he makes some mistakes sometimes, Tommy. He makes mistakes. And I, I may have forgotten asking you to get the stone.â â (Wilburâs A Deck of Cards with a Green Smile on them: 9:28, 31st May)
âIf I, I, I, I, if Iâd known that there was gonna be a place that I could align myself to as quickly as this, I would have done it sooner.â â (Wilburâs A Deck of Cards with a Green Smile on them: 23:44, 31st May)
âSo thatâs the invitation to work alongside you, I assume. I, I, I accept. I accept. Iâd love to come in.â â (Wilburâs A Deck of Cards with a Green Smile on them: 24:00, 31st May)
âNo, youâve got it all wrong, youâve got it all wrong, man. Like, like, okay, maybe, maybe I was unpredictable in the past, you know, but Iâve turned over a new leaf, Quackity. I donât lie anymore, I donât, you know, I donât deceive, I donât, I know nothing about TNT anymore. Iâve forgotten everything I knew about TNT, itâs ridiculous.â â (Wilburâs A Deck of Cards with a Green Smile on them: 24:45, 31st May)
âQuackity, I, I donât know what you mean about my unpredictability, man. But like, listen to me, look at me, look at me. I am, I am your, I am your servant, Quackity. Look, Quackity, look me at me, look me in the eyes, look me in the eyes, I am your servant. I am at your service. I have run countries, I have, Iâve won elections, Iâve done everything that you will need in a leadership role, Quackity. Even not in leadership, I can be, I can be, you know, assistant to the President. Just, I- This is- Quackity, this is everything I dreamt of, a solid marble and quartzâŚâ â (Wilburâs A Deck of Cards with a Green Smile on them: 25:24, 31st May)
âQuackity, youâre making a mistake, man. You should- You need to let me in, you need to let me be a part of this.â â (Wilburâs A Deck of Cards with a Green Smile on them: 26:03, 31st May)
âQuackity, Quackity, Iâm, Quackity, listen, I need this.â â (Wilburâs A Deck of Cards with a Green Smile on them: 26:17, 31st May)
âListen, Tommy, I heard what he was saying to you, man, and you donât seriously believe that, do you? Like, like, man, Tommy, you⌠Iâll be honest with you, can I be honest with you for a second? I, I think you going with Quackity, youâll have a job. Youâll have a job, right, youâll be fine, youâll, you know, youâll be set for life. Youâll be a caterer.â â (Wilburâs A Deck of Cards with a Green Smile on them: 38:56, 31st May)
âLook, Tommy, look at me, Iâm, Iâm not gonna stop you man, but⌠youâre⌠Iâll be honest with you, youâre all Iâve got.â â (Wilburâs A Deck of Cards with a Green Smile on them: 39:39, 31st May)
âOh, Jack Manifoldâs fine, but he wouldnât do this, heâs too busy with his hotel business and stuff, and uh- And youâve got Philza. Philza is on the wrong end of a bad stick, as you could say. Heâs taken up some ideas about authoritarianism that I just donât agree with.â â (Wilburâs A Deck of Cards with a Green Smile on them: 39:48, 31st May)
âWell, I just wanted to say, I wanted to say⌠Tommy, I donât want to make a country. Iâm past that, man. I wanna make a HQ. I wanna make a place where we can be safe for once. Tommy, itâs been so long since weâve felt safe. And man, you deserve it. Youâve been through so much, youâve done so much. Tommy, youâve changed the world. And all you have to show for it is some scars and some trauma. Tommy, you deserve this safety and this sanctuary, and thatâs what I wanna make with you, and you wonât get it over there. You wonât get it over there.â â (Wilburâs A Deck of Cards with a Green Smile on them: 40:14, 31st May)
âYou know what they say about casinos? Itâs all lights, itâs all plastic, itâs all glitter, but thereâs nothing of substance. You know what has substance, Tommy? Family. Blood. Please stay with me, Tommy. Stay on this side. Donât go to him and his cushy catering job. Itâs gonna be hard over here, man! Youâre gonna have to do some stuff that isnât fun, but itâs, itâs rewarding. Hedonism doesnât get you everywhere, man.â â (Wilburâs A Deck of Cards with a Green Smile on them: 40:49, 31st May)
-The whole not having a grave thing really hit him even if he played it off
Ghostbur talks about him not having a grave:
âYouâre the best president LâManburgâs ever hadâ (Ghostbur)
âReally? You think so? Iâm-â (Tubbo)
âOh, for sure! For sure!â (Ghostbur)
âAre you sure you were not better the first term? Before I⌠came inâ (Tubbo)
âLook Tubbo, I- I donât know what I did, but it was enough that I donât even deserve a-â (Ghostbut)
âDo you not even remember the first term, Wilbur? Your second term was where it kinda backedâ (Tubbo)
âI remember- I remember my- I remember my- my first term, but Iâm just saying- (coughs)â (Ghostbur)
âBut you brought freedom to the nationâ (Tubbo)
âI- I had a second term?â (Ghostbur)
âOhâŚoh, yeah⌠I guess you donât remember the second termâ (Tubbo)
â(coughs) Tubbo, I- I-â (Ghostbur)
âWilbur, Wilbur, do you need some blue? Do you need some blue, Wilbur?â (Tubbo)
âNo, itâs cool, Iâve got loads of blue. I say- Iâm just saying Tubbo, look⌠At the end of the day, itâs- I⌠I donât- I feel like I was a good president, but I-I wa- Tubbo, I wasnât⌠I-I wasnât good enough to deserve a gravestone⌠A-and everyone hated meâ (Ghostbur)
-(Tubboâs The Next Steps: 30:14, 7th Dec)
Then revived Wilbur concealing his feelings about it while sprinkling some self-hatred in there (and admitting that he was bothered about in in the 3rd of August stream):
âI know this may be a bit ominous, Tommy, and Iâm sorry if itâs a little bit morbid, could- Look, Iâm just saying, Tommy, could I, could I see my grave? Tommy, could I see my grave?â - (Wilburâs resurrected gentleman of L'manburg: 10:10, 5th May)
âLook, I know itâs a bit macabre, but I, I, I would like to see. You know, I wanna see- I wanna see what- You know thereâs that kinda morbid fascination of what would people say about you when youâre dead, you know? You ever heard that?â - (Wilburâs resurrected gentleman of L'manburg: 10:33, 5th May)
âThatâs fucking sick, thatâs so sick, man. Youâre saying my grave is the city? They made the city my grave thatâs badass, dude. ⌠You just said it was this. ⌠Well, I mean, yeah, I didnât want a grave. I was hoping Iâd go there and it was just be full of requiems and obituaries of horrible I was, and how much I was hated.â - (Wilburâs resurrected gentleman of L'manburg: 10:51, 5th May)
âFuck a grave. I was so pressed about not having a grave. Screw a grave. I built something that you⌠that you love, that you wanted to preserve, thatâs- Tubbo, thatâs worth more to me than a grave, thatâs worth more to me than this shrine, thatâs worth more-â - (Wilburâs A Year Later: 19:09, 3rd Aug)
-Heâs desperate for companionship, for someone to stick by him, he wants a friend
âWeâre leaving it behind, Tommy. Itâs in the past. Weâre friends now, weâre friends. Weâre friends.â - (Wilburâs resurrected gentleman of L'manburg: 27:38, 5th May)
âYouâre following me for quite a while for someone who doesnât care.â - (Wilburâs resurrected gentleman of L'manburg: 27:49, 5th May)
You stick with me, man, just stick with me, just stick with the winning side. Stick with the side who stands for something, stick with the side who believes in something. And weâll, weâll find it out.â - (Wilburâs resurrected gentleman of L'manburg: 42:57, 5th May)
âIâm ready for this new chapter, this new page. Do you trust me? Do you believe that Iâm about to turn over a new leaf, Tommy? ⌠You believe Iâm about to turn over a new leaf, even if that does involve changing a few things.â - (Wilburâs resurrected gentleman of L'manburg: 55:01, 5th May)
âQuackity, I wanna say, I wanna say to you, like, like from here on, as much as we may have our disagreements here, man, I- Weâve gotta leave Tommy outta this. Like, Tommy, I- Iâm sorry if we came off a bit strong.â â (Wilburâs A Deck of Cards with a Green Smile on them: 50:09, 31st May)
âNo, no, no, no, look, look, okay. As weâre putting it behind us, Tommy, Iâm- Tommy, I take back what I- Iâm fine with you working here, and still being, you know. As long as you still hang out with me and donât leave me on my own, I have no problem with you working here, man. ⌠Thatâs what Iâm saying, donât feel pressured, itâs cool.â â (Wilburâs A Deck of Cards with a Green Smile on them: 51:50, 31st May)
[Mouthing: âStay, stay, stayâ] âTommy, you can, you can join, I donât mind, Iâm totally cool with you joining here and being apart of theâŚâ â (Wilburâs A Deck of Cards with a Green Smile on them: 1:02:31, 31st May)
âTubbo, what the fuckâŚ! Fuck! Tubbo, why are you- Why? Why did you- Why did you get employed at the- restaurant?â - (Wilburâs Unhealthy Competition: 20:10, 4th Aug)
âTubbo, are you- Youâre aware that youâre- that weâre in competition now, right? Weâre, weâre- Tubbo, weâve always been on the same side, man! Weâve always been together, youâre- head to head with me now though.â - (Wilburâs Unhealthy Competition: 22:20, 4th Aug)
âIâm not- Does it look like Iâm taking it the wrong way? Iâm perfectly- Iâm happy. Iâm really happy. Iâm happy for Tubbo. Iâm happy Tubboâs got a j- Yes! Iâm happy Tubboâs got a job, man. Tubbo, you were telling me yesterday how you felt like you lacked direction, you lacked purpose.â - (Wilburâs Unhealthy Competition: 23:45, 4th Aug)
âBro, how could I be angry about that, man?â - (Wilburâs Unhealthy Competition: 24:01, 4th Aug)
âBut I get it, I get it, you know, Quackity⌠Heâs a, heâs a hard man to refuse.â - (Wilburâs Unhealthy Competition: 24:09, 4th Aug)
His friendship with Ranboo evolving to a point where heâs vulnerable with him for real and feels he can trust him with what heâs really feeling because Ranboo feels reliable to him (something really rare from Wilbur, refer back to the paranoia part of this):
âOkay, I know we havenât really got off on- we havenât got off on the best of terms from the first time we met, I know we had that argument, but uh. I like, you know, I like to think, you know, let bygones be bygones, letâs bury the hatchet. Letâs be- Ranboo, Iâm gonna go out on a whim here. Do, do you wanna be friends?â - (Wilburâs Healthy Competition: 18:07, 25th July)
âAnd, man, Ranboo, hearing you say those words that you said to me. Do you remember what you said? You said, 'I think people can changeâ, that was number one. And number two, you said youâre scared if people donât like you.â - (Wilburâs Healthy Competition: 38:45, 25th July)
âIâve been investing into the wrong areas, Ranboo. Iâve been investing into the wrong, wrong people. Weâre kindred, man. We get each other.â - (Wilburâs Healthy Competition: 39:13, 25th July)
âRanboo, I want to say thank you, man, for, you know, for trusting me this quick. I mean youâve barely, youâve barely known me like, you know, very long, and youâve instantly just, you know. Youâve done all this with me and youâve worked with me, and I- You know, I donât, I donât know where Iâd be without you here right now, manâ - (Wilburâs A Year Later: 28:20, 3rd Aug)
âBut like I was saying, though, Ranboo, I, I really appreciate it, man. I- Thank you for trusting me.â - (Wilburâs A Year Later: 29:11, 3rd Aug)
âNine to five? Dude, I donât make you work nine to five. You just have to work when we run out of burgers, man. Youâre free to do what you want. Youâre working part-time for Wilburger, man.â - (Wilburâs Unhealthy Competition: 5:18, 4th Aug)
âYeah. I think, hm. Ranboo, I think, I think youâve, youâve kind of taken a side here it feels like which is- Which feels like a change for you, I mean, Iâm not used to this from you. I mean, youâre Mr Not Choosing A Side, you know?â - (Wilburâs Unhealthy Competition: 7:39, 4th Aug)
âNo, but, no, but, you donât need to have an impact on the world, Ranboo, to matter, you know? You donât need to build a fucking Eiffel Tower just to be, you know. Just to mean something, you know?â - (Wilburâs Unhealthy Competition: 8:47, 4th Aug)
âRanboo, Ranboo, donât get me wrong, youâre talking to me here. I think itâs cool that youâre, that youâre, you know, going out and doing stuff.â - (Wilburâs Unhealthy Competition: 9:03, 4th Aug)
âI think itâs very cool that youâve decided to go out and, and change how, you know, change this for the better. I think itâs for the better.â - (Wilburâs Unhealthy Competition: 9:14, 4th Aug)
âYeah, and, man, honestly? Iâm proud of you, bro. I know I donât know you very well, I havenât known you for very long, but, you know, I think youâve done a really good job here.â - (Wilburâs Unhealthy Competition: 9:50, 4th Aug)
âOhh, Ran⌠I feel you, I feel you, Ranboo, about the⌠compet- Itâs scary, itâs scary, man. Especially when, you know, we got a long way to go, we got a lot of bridges to cross, and, and maybe one day weâll be ready to like, you know, grab it all by the horns and ride it, you know?â - (Wilburâs Unhealthy Competition: 27:38, 4th Aug)
âBut right now itâs- itâs just- Itâs just you and me against the world. The world being Tubbo and Quackity.â - (Wilburâs Unhealthy Competition: 27:55, 4th Aug)
âThatâs cool. Because, because at the end of the day weâre- Going right now weâre, weâre the good guys, Ranboo. Weâre, weâre the good guys here, you know?â - (Wilburâs Unhealthy Competition: 31:08, 4th Aug)
âYeah. I mean, we havenât done anything wrong, you know? Weâre the good guys, and, and Quackity, Quackityâs done a few things wrong.â - (Wilburâs Unhealthy Competition: 31:08, 4th Aug)
Have some of his passive aggressive attempts at friendship-rivalry with Quackity (Theyâre kids annoying each other and I adore that):
âSo he didnât like it? He didnât like you setting up the cookie stand?â - (Wilburâs Healthy Competition: 21:33, 25th July)
âOkay. Okay. No, no, no, thatâs good. Thatâs fine, thatâs fine, you know? Because weâre, Ranboo, weâre not gonna annoy Quackity. We canât annoy him, we canât annoy him.â - (Wilburâs Healthy Competition: 21:44, 25th July)
âAnd the difference is that weâll make our grill better than theirs. And then weâll make lots of money, and Quackity will be left to, you know, maybe have to make a deal with us, maybe have to be, maybe have to be our friend.â - (Wilburâs Healthy Competition: 22:59, 25th July)
âRanboo, how do you feel about thievery? ⌠Iâm going to steal Las Nevadasâs cows to cook into our burgers. And Iâm not going to rebreed them. I am going to simply kill them.â - (Wilburâs Healthy Competition: 41:52, 25th July)
âAre you gonna steal all of them?â (Ranboo)
âNah. Just enough that itâs annoying, you know?â (Alivebur)
- (Wilburâs Healthy Competition: 42:14, 25th July)
âI gave him back all the materials, 'cause, I gave him all the materials for the wall, and I also, I also, uh, left him a diamond or two. Just to say like, you know, no hard feelings, you know, it was just for, just you know, just to, you know, prove a point.â - (Wilburâs Unhealthy Competition: 10:18, 4th Aug)
âBasically, Quackityâs here, and I just wanna, I just wanna see how he feels.â - (Wilburâs Unhealthy Competition: 10:32, 4th Aug)
âNormally when I come to the Las Nevadas sign, 'cause Iâm not allowed in Las Nevadas, normally when I come to the Las Nevadas sign, Quackity is the first one to come and tell me to fuck off.â - (Wilburâs Unhealthy Competition: 10:43, 4th Aug)
âYeah, man, itâs- Half of the fun of making something and doing cool things is that moment where everyone, you know, where you get to see what everyone feels about it.â - (Wilburâs Unhealthy Competition: 10:55, 4th Aug)
âWait here, look, I promise you, just you wait. Just you wait. Ready? Ready? Are you ready? Are- Are you- Are you ready? Um⌠UhâŚâ - (Wilburâs Unhealthy Competition: 11:06, 4th Aug)
âThis guy. Ranboo, I swear to god, like I, I feel like I understand him, I feel like I know how his brain works, you know, how his- how the- how the cogs in his mind go. And then he just, and then he just goes and proves that he doesnât give a shit.â - (Wilburâs Unhealthy Competition: 12:56, 4th Aug)
âWhich is why I canât wait to show off what Iâve done, to him. But, heâs just nowhere to be seen.â - (Wilburâs Unhealthy Competition: 13:12, 4th Aug)
âOh, okay, youâre talking about- OHHHHH, look whoâs here! Quackity! Itâs lovely to see you, man, itâs been a while. How have you been?â - (Wilburâs Unhealthy Competition: 14:22, 4th Aug)
âUh, Iâve just arrived, you know, I just arri- I, I havenât been long for you. I, I wouldnât- Quackity, you think, you think Iâd wait for you?â - (Wilburâs Unhealthy Competition: 14:35, 4th Aug)
âYeah, itâs, itâs good to see you too, man.â - (Wilburâs Unhealthy Competition: 14:53, 4th Aug)
âHey, man, you know, every- every, you know. Rome wasnât built in a day. Small steps and that, you canât-â - (Wilburâs Unhealthy Competition: 16:17, 4th Aug)
âDododododooo, that was a good joke, Quackity, youâre funny. Dododo, youâre very nice to me and you never bring up my past. Dododo.â - (Wilburâs Unhealthy Competition: 16:45, 4th Aug)
âSorry if you noticed a little bit, you know, a little bit of superficial damage. I left you a little gift, as well, afterwards, Iâm sure thatâs okay. That was Ranboo and me, uh, did that, actually, to your restaurant. Ranboo and I.â - (Wilburâs Unhealthy Competition: 18:05, 4th Aug)
âWell, weâve gotta go, weâve gotta go. It was lovely, it was absolutely lovely hanging out with you. I, I am just thrilled that you liked the renovations.â - (Wilburâs Unhealthy Competition: 25:30, 4th Aug)
âWait- Wait, Iâm allowed in Las Nevadas?â (Alivebur)
âWilbur, youâre not- Youâre taking this the wrong way, man.â (Quackity)
âYou told me I couldnât come in and now-â
- (Wilburâs Unhealthy Competition: 25:56, 4th Aug)
âYouâre a good man. Youâre a good man, Quackity. Iâll, Iâll give you that.â - (Wilburâs Unhealthy Competition: 26:29, 4th Aug)
âOhh boy! Ha ha ha ha, ha! Oh, this is good, this is- this is exactly what I want. Did you see how- Dude, dude, Ranboo, he was trying act like I didnât get to him.â - (Wilburâs Unhealthy Competition: 26:47, 4th Aug)
âHe cares so much, he cares so much.â - (Wilburâs Unhealthy Competition: 27:06, 4th Aug)
âI feel alive, Ranboo, I feel alive. Someoneâs looking at me and talking to me! Iâm alive, Iâm alive! This is great.â - (Wilburâs Unhealthy Competition: 27:22, 4th Aug)
-He doesnât love TNT. He self-harms with it
âTommy, I donât need armour. You donât seem to understandâŚ!â - (Wilburâs The Festival: 11:24, 16th Oct)
âI am concerned. Iâm being very careful, Tommy.â (Alivebur)
âYeah but youâre not wearing any armour, or you donât have any defences on you.â (Tommy)
âWell for what?â (Alivebur)
- (Wilburâs The Festival: 14:23, 16th Oct)
âIâm not crouching thereâs no point! Weâll all be dead soon, it doesnât matter!â - (Wilburâs Speedy Stream Festival What festival: 24:16, 17th Oct)
Heâs let TNT explode on him and take away half his hearts when blowing up the corner of Quackityâs restaurant in âHealthy competitionâ (around 55:50)
He also self-harms by letting creepers blow up next to him, saying he doesnât fear death even when heâs expressed to not want to go back to limbo and that heâs incredibly happy about being alive again:
âTommy, listen to me, man. I donât fear death, I donât fear death, Tommy.â - (Wilburâs resurrected gentleman of L'manburg: 57:23, 5th May) (In this scene he let a creeper explode next to him)
Even Ghostbur showed some explosion trauma:
[Sees TNT placed] âOh, no.â [Hears explosion] âUhh⌠Guys I- I think I should go, I think I should go. ⌠Yeah, Iâm not too sure about all this.â - (Tubboâs Exploding Stuff w/ Tommy: 48:38, 22nd Apr)
âI donât know, I just donât- I donât like the sound of those fireworks. ⌠I donât- I really, really donât like the sound of the fireworks.â - (Tubboâs Exploding Stuff w/ Tommy: 49:00, 22nd Apr)
âOkay, Tommy, Iâll go to Pogtopia. I just donât wanna be- I donât wanna be there. Thank you. Thank you for understanding. Iâm sorry, Iâll help you- Iâll get you more sand. Bye bye!â - (Tubboâs Exploding Stuff w/ Tommy: 49:23, 22nd Apr)
-Heâs as much of a person as everybody else on the SMP. Think about that
#tw suicide mention#tw suicide ideation#tw self harm mention#c!Wilbur#Wilbur#Wilbur Soot#Ghostbur#Revivedbur#dsmp#dream smp#long post#c!tommy#c!tubbo#c!dream#c!phil#c!niki#c!jack manifold#c!ranboo#c!schlatt#c!fundy#c!quackity#revivedbur#wilbur dream smp#wilbur analysis#this is SO LONG holy fuck#The bad takers better read this thing#consider this the I'm no longer asking#you either give an informed opinion or shut it#tnt duo#crimeboys
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Yugioh S5 Ep 20: Pharaohâs Cool New Trick
Digging my way through quite a pile of commission work (funny how these things only come all at once or not at all), nearing the light at the end of the tunnel, was looking forward to some free time to catch up on my many little side projects when I was asked to take off for a weekend to do some cat-sitting to which I would NEVER say no to a cat, so like...Rip this blog I guess, we only update like once a week nowadays, but what do you do?
Thatâs right, play Puzzles and Dragons! The only phone game worth paying any attention to! Where they just released Pegasus on their Yugioh Collab and he looks pretty great!
So Iâm just gonna take a second for some art appreciation, because the Puzzles and Dragons art team is just A++++ honestly, and yes, I did pull 13 times to get a Pegasus in my monster box, and yes, he is a completely insane team leader that is absolutely broken when paired with Yugi (the numbers are so satisfying) but...look at him. He looks so good!
(also I finally got Joey Wheeler, and so now my gatcha cravings are settled. And, donât worry, I play this game so much that I was there during Christmas when they offered like a bajillion stones for free so I didnât actually use real money on this.)
Now PAD also released a Weevil and Rex, and I donât know why, and neither does the art team because they still look pretty good but in comparison to all the mains, they sure do looks like just some shorty guys in some casuals.
though I gotta admit, I want to learn how the hell this art team does swooshy effects, because man, that would make my art so much better to just have flames violently exploding out of all my art. Why am I not doing that more often? I have the technology.
anyway, I didnât bother trying to pull them. Maybe Iâll accidentally pull them when they eventually release a Duke Devlin. (also, RIP to the fact that Roland will probably never be in Puzzles and Dragons but like...I can only send them so many polite letters covered in stickers pretending Iâm some 10 year old child and writing in my broken Hiragana âRoland in PAD?â. Thems the breaks. (They also might not remember who Roland is.))
Shoutouts to the card that Weevil is holding that is censoring this nipple on the booby spider, PS.
So because this is not actually a Puzzles and Dragons blog, and itâs been ten eons since I regularly updated so I could remember episode to episode...where the hell were we?
Thatâs right, weâre on an island now. This showâs wonderful obsession with evil islands (and spoiler, this is one of the few Yugioh Islands that doesnât explode at the end. Mostly because Kaiba isnât here to do it or this place would be cinder)
(read more island stuff under the cut)
Anyway, after announcing âhey guys! Screw islands!â Yugi immediately collapses and without any warning.
Apparently the armor is a big ol parasite, which is something that Yugi is so used to at this point that he refuses to admit that this is a problem. Just normal Muto stuff, refusing to tell anyone that he has a serious illness going on underneath that giant mass of hair.
(the sailor moon vibes coming off this weird orb energy)
Sort of feels like a call back to S1 when Yugi was clearly possessed and everyone else was like âHe acting weird to you?â except itâs S5 and everyone has learned to never trust Yugi when he says heâs fine and they are responding like he is about to die. Which is correct.
Outside of the cave falls this scroll that is...glowing, I guess. So they open it up and get a bunch of hieroglyphs that give them the âriddle of lightâ and like youknow...itâs riddle stuff.
Theyâre doing this riddle for âwings.â And itâs like...everyoneâs monster here has a set of wings or an ability to fly. Every single monster except for I dunno, flaming swordsman? Hell, Yugi himself had two sets of wings when he fused with Dark Magician (which was weird, and I still donât like to think about what technically was going on there.) But we have to go and get ourselves even more wings.
Weirdly, Joey turns to Tea and does something that in any other show would be completely normal. He was like âyou want to stay here with Yugi, donât you?â and it was the first time Joey has ever actually addressed the fact that Tea and Yugi are close. Uncharted territory. I was amazed at the amount of casual shipping that is happening here. Itâs almost like a normal ass relationship.
So the boys decide to go off, and be boys and tackle this themselves. And they shouldnât have, because Tea is smart for this group, and also has the only healing spell.
Like if youâre playing D+D you wouldnât typically leave your only healer behind. Just saying.
Also like...Grandpa Muto went with them? I guess heâd have to since heâs the translator but also...kind of weird to leave your grandson dying in a cave, but maybe thatâs just the Muto lifestyle.
Do not be fooled by my caps, no one has addressed the Bakura in the puzzle for 3 seasons. Iâm starting to think this show will never address the Bakura in the puzzle. Which honestly, that would be hilarious if they made a big deal out of that plot point and then couldnât use it in the end.
And speaking of plot points that kind of come out of nowhere and donât make full sense with the continuity of the show--Joey has regressed back to the 4th grade.
Hey show? What?
So like if you love Joey, this is not the arc for you, because this arc he is reduced to a Himbo and nothing else. Straight up didnât know what an echo is, but is very strong and pretty, I guess.
This inevitably happens with any TV show becuase different people make different parts, and Iâve brought up before that sometimes it feels like some teams only have loose post-it notes of what any character should be like at any given point (ESPECIALLY with Seto Kaibaâs timeline) but like...
...Personally Iâm mot so fond of this interpretation of Joey, kind of ignores Joeyâs best traits, and makes Tristan look way too smart in comparison (and like I always pinned Tristan to be the Himbo of the group, but maybe itâs because they give Tristan so little else to do?)
And like donât get me wrong, Joeyâs a dumbass a lot of the time and needs to get corrected by his pals...but...to the point he doesnât know what an echo is? Heâs a dumbass in a High School student sort of way, youknow?
Anyway, they get down to this big ravine, and they have to destroy this stone while the light passes over it. Kind of feels like a Breath of the Wild shrine quest, actually. In fact, I think Breath of the Wild recycled the shadow/sunlight pathing quest like 4 or 5 times. (I love Breath of the Wild to death but boy did they run out of ideas at the end there.)
They have to fight a glass monster and itâs kind of like...do you know the game Balls 3D? probably not, but it looked like a bunch of random shapes stuck together like a 90â˛s animation. They basically went to war with shapes.
Pure Himbo energy, has several pokemon, but punches for his pokemon instead of using them. A power move if I ever saw one.
Youknow that would make pokemon a lot more interesting if you could like throw out your pikachu, and then choose to just physically run up to your opponents Eevee and sock it in the jaw. Raise of hands--I know you all would love a version of pokemon like that. Let Ash Ketchum punch a Ratata.
Bro has informed me that Ash does do something like this in the anime. But Iâm not talking about the anime, Iâm talking about the video game. Give me the option to physically combat my rival. This is what I want, Pokemon.
They discover a way to break the monolith, and the show thinks weâre like actually 7 years old (because the show is Y7, although I forget because it deals with so many dark themes) so the show is going to hold on to this puzzle for a while...just to fill time. And itâs fine because we gotta switch over to Pharaoh anyway.
Yami has this dream again. He attempts to fuse with Dark magician to overcome the dream, but alas, he is still not strong enough.
Yugi wakes up in this murky cave while Tea is out washing out like...some rag? (heâs also still got a rag, so I guess multiple rags were required for how sweaty Yugi is.)
Yugi says âI feel like Iâm a new man!â a lot in this episode, and every time he calls himself a man like heâs some sort of adult itâs very funny to me.
And then this plot lore dropped.
I mean I guess inevitably it had to happen...
But man, end of an era. It was freakin hilarious while it lasted: that Pharaoh refused to read ancient Egyptian because itâs like 2002 and he is a High Schooler living in Japan and he actually doesnât WANT to resolve the mystery of the puzzle. Maybe the people who made this arc donât know about how in S2 and S3, the fact Pharaoh couldnât read Marikâs back tatt was like...a really big issue. He couldnât read the God card, he couldnât even read that massive tablet that read âHEY PHARAOH THIS IS LITERALLY YOUâ. KAIBA had to tell him how to read the God card for him. Freakin Seto âMagic is a lieâ Kaiba had to tell him how to use the God Card because Pharaoh couldnât read it.
But like...Pharaoh finally gave in at some point after the world was devoured by the Leviathan, and before Kaiba finished building Kaibaland (which was already built in S1 but wtv)
The timelines on this show have always been a mishmash...but this one is just like...
...show are you trying to convince me that at any point in this show after season Zero, Pharaoh had any idea what he was doing? Did he sap that brain energy straight out of Joey Wheeler so he could do this?
Wow.
(secretly hoping he forgets how to read Egyptian after this arc is over and the show goes back to the other development team)
Pharaohs reasoning is that, if this is the riddle of the light.....
....then where is the riddle of darkness????????????
and when Tea was like âPharaoh that is not even remotely logic. Omg itâs so bright outside, lets go back to gross cave.â and Pharaoh was like âTea! You got it!â and she was like âWhat the hell are you talking about?â
Not gonna lie, I saw the Orichalcos green, and I got concerned.
Anyway, Yugi gets very frustrated and was like âugh, lets go save em. Theyâre gonna die (again.)â and marches down there as if he didnât pass out an hour ago.
And he fuses with Dark Magician again while everyone else (including his grandpa) was like âYugi are you freakin kidding me? The suit freakin kills you omg! Tea you had one freakin job!â
And then we get the plot twist that...I mean it makes sense but it was choreographed in a confusing way.
And out of no where this guy shows up again:
So this mysterious man shows up and says âIf you donât succeed you have to live here foreverâ which...nice...that would probably save the world a lot of problems if Yami got locked away and took his OP puzzle with him. And then this man also says âif you do succeed you become VERY POWERFULâ and Yami was like. â...â
This whole episode had a theme to it, where Tristan and Joey were trying to prove that they could do things on their own and without Yugiâs help. And honestly...felt a little bit misplaced. Yamiâs the same guy who murdered Yugi last season with the Orichalcos so like...
...I mean he is probably more reliable than Tristan who once died and turned into a robot monkey for 10ish episodes.
and then they flew into a glowing door.
Folks, this was wild to look at.
This is wild.
And at this point I closed Photoshop and thought I was done. But then I looked at my timeline on the video and was like...wait...thereâs more?
and Iâm really glad I kept watching because it went back to Alex, who...is apparently just still at those steps in this haunted ass Pyramid.
Now weâre watching Yugioh.
I forgot for a second when they turned Joey into a Himbo and made Pharaoh literate, but weâre back. I mean...
...look at the liner art on this adult man.
So...I posit the question...has Alex spent the last 2-3 episodes doing nothing but applying eyeliner to his face in the dark? Because he absolutely has. And honestly, the vibe of being in a spooky haunted pyramid with barely any light, just applying eyeliner down the edge of your face...thatâs a Yugioh vibe, if I ever saw one.
This arc is wild. Anyway, next episode we do even more fetch quests and riddles? Just going to guess now that we probably will.
(and for those new here, this is a link so you can read them from the top. Which, since weâre in S5, means you got like...hours of Yugioh content to read through. Enjoy the rewards of my weird hobby.)
https://steve0discusses.tumblr.com/tagged/yugioh/chrono
#Yugioh#Yu-Gi-Oh#yami yugi#S5#Ep20#It's actually Ep 20 now I was wrong last time#Yugi muto#Grandpa Muto#Alexander the Great#Joey Wheeler#Tristan Taylor#Tea Gardner#TeaxYugi#never thought I would ever use that tag#in this show where they are canonically dating but sometimes it happens#Puzzles and Dragons#Because yes I had to talk about it. This collab is great
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Highlights from the Fan Meeting
(took longer than planned. sorry..)
So, there were definitely A LOT of people watching during the event. At one point, it reached 26k viewers - but it could have been higher than that. They were also broadcasting through VLive so there were more.Â
There was an earlier interview thing that was reposted later on on Instagram. Iâm not sure if that was something exclusive to SK viewers or if it really was just a private interview (saw a news outletâs watermark somewhere; Yonhap Newsâ, I think).Â
Either way, in that interview, Cho PD participated. He wasnât there for the international fan meet, though.
Anyway, here are the highlights in a (mostly) chronological order:
⢠During the opening, the cast were introduced. Jaesuk or the MC did mention straight off the bat that this will be the final season.Â
⢠Sejeong roasted Kwangsoo because of his hair đ Itâs currently very long because he and Sehun had been filming for Pirates 2; Sehunâs hair was long-ish as well. But yeah - he got the most teasing because his hair is as long as Sejeongâs now lol
â˘Â Okay, I gotta mention this: Jongmin was DRESSED TO THE T. He looked so nice, but it was so cute! He was just so determined to impress the international fans present. It just showed how much he cared about us and about how we felt about him.Â
So yes: if you havenât yet, give Jongmin some love.Â
He was also asked at one point who he felt the closest to among the cast members, and yâall - he hesitated đđ It was obvious he wanted to say he felt the closest to Sejeong, but he got scared because he thought the fans who were there might get mad at him đ
But Sejeong, being the sweetheart that she is, kept encouraging him to pick her anyway by throwing hearts at him đĽ°
Yâall, what are we gonna do once this show is over? This brOTP is the best when it came to roasting people! And they act like fr siblings đđ
⢠On the same question, after Jongmin did pick Sejeong, Kwangsoo made a remark, saying that he thought Jongmin was going to choose him. He looked hurt đ
Side note: are we finally getting more Jongmin and Kwangsoo scenes this season?? đ
⢠Not that long after, they played a game. Three of the cast members were chosen prior to the meet to draw a picture summarizing an episode. The rest had to guess where it was from.Â
Kwangsoo was the first to go, and his clue - drawn nicely - pointed to S1EP5, The Last Vampire. Jaesuk was the first one to solve it, mentioning that it was the episode Park Hae-jin was in.
Seunggi was next, and it took the cast a while to figure out which episode it is. Canât remember who solved it or if Seunggi just gave them the answer, but it was depicting one of the final scenes in S2EP10, The Flower of Death. It was that part where they were in Flower Killerâs hideout, when he finally told them who he really was while standing over Minjae.Â
Kwangsoo afterwards said he was surprised by how terrible(?) Seunggiâs drawing skills were. Seunggi just laughed.Â
Sejeong was next. She drew the detective team (beautifully, btw), and underneath the picture were the words versus + seven silhouettes with question marks on their faces.Â
Kwangsoo praised Sejeong for her great drawing skills, and the cast agreed.Â
The cast eventually figured out which episode, but they were hesitant to really speak of it.
It was then revealed that itâs an episode/case where the detective team faces off with a copycat team. We will see this and find out who the copycat seven are in S3.Â
⢠Afterwards, they did this thing where a roulette chooses one of the members, the MC reads the messages written to them by fellow cast members, and they guess who they think itâs from.Â
Iâll probably make another post later for this if you guys want since I canât remember everything that was said, but basically...
> Jaesuk received messages from Sehun and Seunggi. Canât remember what Seunggi said, but Sehun pretty much just thanked Jaesuk for teaching him 10% of what he needed to know about variety (he said the other 90% he learned himself lol)Â
> Seunggi received messages from Sehun and Minyoung.
> Kwangsoo received messages from Jaesuk and Sejeong. Jaesuk said in his message that he highly valued him and Jongmin - and he asked them to stay with him forever (đ)
Meanwhile, Sejeong said that sheâs thankful and sorry to Kwangsoo. When asked what she was sorry about, she said it was because she knew there were moments when it needed to be funny, and Kwangsoo would make a fool of himself to make that happen.Â
(Side note: she interacted a lot with Kwangsoo this fan meet, too, so I have hope that I will also get the Kwangsoo and Sejeong brOTP scenes Iâve been asking for đđź)
> Minyoung received messages from Jaesuk and Jongmin.
> Jongmin received messages from Kwangsoo and Sejeong (my other brOT3 đâ¤ď¸)
> Sehun received messages from Jongmin and Minyoung. Jongmin said in his message that he was sorry to Sehun because he didnât (couldnât?) take care of him better.Â
> Sejeong received messages from Jaesuk and Minyoung. Minyoung asked somewhere in her message for them to have a drink together some time, while Jaesuk asked Sejeong if she could help Kwangsoo land a role in her current drama đ
Kwangsoo then revealed that Jaesuk always does that: whenever he meets with his friends and other celebrities, he always asks them to cast Kwangsoo in their drama or movie. The cast laughed.Â
Seunggi then mentioned afterwards that heâs currently working on a new drama or movie (not sure which one), and he offered Kwangsoo the role of a mouse lol
⢠That was then followed by the Thank You messages from the fans. Some of you may be aware of this, but about a week and a half ago, on IG, the Busted Netflix official account asked fans to submit a 10 second video of themselves saying âThank you, Team Busted!â in their native language.Â
It was so cute, you guys! It just showed how much the cast and crew were loved by many all over the world.Â
Although: there was one fan from Sweden or Norway who had a whole PROJECT D MARK HANGING ON HIS WALL. THE SAME ONE HANGING OUTSIDE THE MAZE IN CâS LAIR IN THE SERIES PREMIERE.
Where did he get that?? I want one, Iâm so jealous!! âšď¸
â˘Â The fan meeting closed with messages from the cast. Most of them seemed so tired at this point, but Jaesuk proved to be the best leader the cast/team could ask for even in the end.Â
I mentioned this on the first update, but he said he felt sad that the series was coming to an end especially since the cast had such great chemistry. It was heartwarming to hear because it personally gave me a sense of closure.Â
To hear a cast member address the feelings a number of us feel is comforting, you know?
⢠The fan meet ended with bouquets of flowers (non-threatening kind đđ) and gift bags for the cast! They were all so pleasantly surprised, and it was so cute.Â
Netflix seemed to be aware that the awards season just finished in SK, so they gave each of the members their own trophies bearing personalized awards! It was a weighty trophy, too; the cast commented on it.
I donât know what the other members received, but Sejeong, I think, got the Bright Future Award.Â
Myuk PD later posted on his IG pictures of this big gift bag that Netflix apparently gave him and the other PDs. One of the gifts they received contained a pair of wine glasses with an electric bottle opener in the middle. It was so classy and nice.
Bro - no one can say that Netflix didnât love the detective team and the creators of the show. They threw all kind of love and attention on them, and they didnât skimp on the gifts and ads either.Â
There are other points from that earlier interview I was talking about, but Iâll put that on a separate post if youâre interested :)Â
Detective Fam! Thereâs literally only two days before the final season drops! For those of you who live on the Eastern hemisphere, itâs just one day and some change!Â
Season 3!! Are you guys excited??!
#update#Busted Netflix fan meet#Yoo Jae Suk#Kim Jong Min#Lee Kwang Soo#Lee Seung Gi#Park Min Young#Oh Sehun#Kim Sejeong#Busted Netflix
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hey zira, what are your hot takes on all of the fo4 companions?
Haha, I donât know how hot they are, but I can give you a speed run! (Also I am very excited to get this. FO4 was the first open world game I ever played and just the concept of that and the hugeness of the world and branching story & sudden feeling changes towards me in companion characters totally blew my mind, & it still lives rent free in my heart).
Ada, Old Longfellow, and Strong I /still/ havenât maxed despite having too many hundred hours to want to list on this gameâthe former bc they were DLC, Strong because honest to god I left him at a nice settlement and then completely forgot about him and remembering that I am the energy in this Ryan OâFlanagan video but abt leaving my super mutant in a tiny settlement alone. I will get there! To max affinity I mean. But anyway, I donât truly know those three, so my takes are incomplete. So far though, I really like Ada. She is a good girl just trying her best. Fucks me up I can tell her to self destruct. Even though I feel sure she would ignore me, I cannot imagine ever saying that to her. It was really sweet she was willing to forgive the Mechanist and move on with her life. A good girl. Longfellow I am maxing rn (was last time I played anyhow). I enjoy him. Gruff grumpy old man but he seems quite decent and I like his idle banter and when he sings to himself a lot. Seems like heâs had it rough. Strong I liked. Heâs wild, and I loved how insane meeting him was, and am worried about him eventually understanding poetry and how that might mess up his sense of world understanding. But heâs a chill dude in his own way and I am glad they gave us at least one nice super mutant.
For the companions I actually do know like the back of my hand, the speedrun:
Nick Valentine: Best man on earth. One of two fictional characters I ever called husband. I would die kill or live for him. I want to be 1/4th the man Nick Valentine is. One of the best characters ever period and I adore literally everything about him. It fucked me up early in game where right after he offered to basically risk destroying his mind to help a stranger look for her son, he asked me how I was doing. First character in the entire game to do that. His first companion dialogue is abt how youâre doing TuT. The man is very kind and forgiving and fair, but knows when the draw the line and take no shit. Emotionally mature, kind, caring, longsuffering. Incredibly damaged and broken by life, but holding on and living kindly and to help others anyway. One of the four most marryablen fictional men Iâve ever seen.
Preston Garvey: Brave, kind, sweet man. I would defend him with my life. He really just wants so bad to make the world better and life has been so hard, but heâs still trying. A beautiful and underrated companion and I would throw hands for him on sight. I adore how he whistles. A true and gentle and loyal friend. Take him to Quincy and let him get his justice itâs what he deserves. People who hate him because he tries to get help helping civilians in that game are weak. I love him so much... please give him enough time to reach max affinity heâs so worth it.
Deacon: *To the tune of You Are My Dad* You are my friiiiend! Youâre my friend! (Boogie woogie woogie). Initially, he pissed me off bc he lies all the god damn time, but after we got close enough he actually trusted me, he stole my heart and I would also die for Deacon. Heâs a really good person who thinks heâs shit because of who he was on his past. Also him đ¤ Preston: massive survivorâs guilt. They should be friends. Poor Deacon has been the last member of the Railroad like four times, and itâs awful. Help him. Give him love and support. Heâs one of my all time faves. Also, Railroad hands down best faction and if you kill them for any reason other than like a walkthrough route video and I ever get the chance I would 100% clock you in the face as hard as I can, like going for losing teeth, and feel no guilt. I know itâs a game and thatâs wrong, and Iâd be wrong, but Iâd still do it. Also, Ryan Alosio (his VA) saw me do cosplay for Deacon once and told me it was great and it filled me with even more love. Anyway Deacon is great. Also, his whole âThere are other organisations out there. And, in time, I'm sure they're going to spoon-feed you their own patented form of bullshit. Ignore the verbage and look at what they're doing. What they're asking you to do. What sort of world they'd have you build and how they're going to pay for it.â Is one of the like, two most iconic quotes in all of FO4 & just super good in general.
Hancock: Hardcore badass man but also a good dude and a champion for the people. Man really puts his money where his mouth is and you gotta respect that; another favorite companion for sure. Big fan of the way he stabs a guy for you upon meeting, and is a cool leader who organized his crime and does a decent job actually leading. He works hard to help people and bites back hard. Social justice advocate, dangerous man about town, not afraid to cosplay a revolutionary war hero 24/7 & u gotta respect the no fucks given attitude. A chill dude. Like that he fights the institute, hates the Brotherhood, helps the Railroad, and is friends with Nick. Heâs legit af. Also, his VA gives a different answer every time someone asks him about the voice he did for hancock and theyâre funny af.
Piper Wright: A cool spunky lady. Lois Lane on the case, kicking butt, and taking name. Sheâs nice but also hardcore and smart, supportive, fun. A good person. You always get points if you like Nick (which most companions do), and theyâre good friends. Sheâs funny and I love her. A good heart.
Codsworth: Heâs great. Heâs family. Heâs like my...weird brother. Getting to max affinity is heartwarming and also makes my heart go :â-] . Great early-game companion bc he kicks ass and doesnât need stims to heal. I love getting called by my name and think that was a great feature (well, my PCâs name). Heâs a wonderful funky little robot dude and I am so glad he likes me.
Dogmeat: Amazing. A good boy. Doggo of the year. His actor deserved the game award she won. Cute, full of love, and plays with a teddy bear if you give him one. 100/10z
Cait: I like her a lot. Sheâs been through so much shit, and it makes sense she is how she is. I like they actually gave her an emaciated and messy (though still pretty) design, since she is a drug addict. And that they make her main quest about taking that seriously and wanting to get help, and that sheâll call out the player if they fuck around and do drugs in front of her after she gets rehabilitated. Her relationship to the PC if good is really sweet, and I am a fan. I like that while sheâs not sympathetic to synths and thinks they arenât people, she forgets that every time Nick walks into a room and is like âOh hey Nicky : )â. Sheâs a good girl who has been through a lot and still needs time to heal and find herself, but sheâs making great strides.
Robert Joseph MacCready: Human disaster (loving). Homeboy a goddamn /mess/ but I love him. He tries so hard to be cool. I love he makes you pay him to come with, then chickens out and gives it back lol. A fool ball of anxiety and bad decisions and what he thinks brovado is. I wish he, Preston, and Deacon would quit fighting, bc I am always like â :â-] </3 Boys Pleaseâ when they swap out, but I love them just the same. Heâs doing his best, heâs just stupid and a fool. Like Philip J Fry. Keeping his goddamn soldier toy, which somehow is listed as junk instead of sent to Misc with quest items where it would be fine, safe?parylizes me with fear. Iâve lost 2 hours of gameplay reloading an old save bc I accidentally lost it.
X6-88: A more complex one to answer about. Heâs bad, but like, Iâm pretty sympathetic to how he got that way. He was created in a lab and had his emotions mostly dragged out of him in intense psychologically damaging training so he would be a weapon and view himself as an object. I was relieved he chose me over the institute even if he wasnât a fan of the chocie, and think that means thereâs a lot of hope for him. Wish heâd chill the fuck out and quit intimidating civilians for 6 god damn seconds, but I like him. I bring him fancy lad snack cakes home from travels all the time, bc Synths are supposed to like them. Really like that heâs the /most/ sympathetic companion towards Danse in Blind Betrayal, even though he should not be programmed for that, and Danse hated him and made it clear any time they interacted.
(EDIT) Curie: I FORGOT HER BABY IM SO SORRY. I like Curie a lot, despite the fact I temporarily forgot she existed. I stg I thought she was in here. Uhhh, okay. Curie: like her character and personality, HUGE un-fan of both the way her desire to get a synth body is to be âmore real,â as if Codsworth isnât a fully realized person while the same robot type she is, instead of just like. Because it would make her happy. ALSO hate how much of a Born Sexy Yesterday she is, even intentionally in not-determinate affinity talks. Itâs gross. But her herself, I like a lot. Sheâs my daughter and I will protect her. She works at The Castle right now as their on-site medic.
Paladin Danse: I know Iâm gonna take heat for this but honestly? He didnât do much for me. I like that he looks and sounds kinda like Buzz Lightyear, and thatâs fun, but idk at all why people think heâs so hot. Heâs very boring & generic looking to me. Like youâre valid! Taste all be different. But he doesnât do it for me personally in looks or personality. I donât at all like, hate him. Or even dislike. Tbh I am fairly neutral on him. It was funny making affinity with him though. Every other companion I had maxed, I liked more and more with each affinity talk. Theyâd be like âSo my dad was a minuteman and died and I want to honor himâ or âI just want to really feel like Iâm a person, for real, myself, and I am glad I met you, because the good we have achieved together is ours, even if I canât be sure of anything else,â or âMy brother threw the cultural minorities out of our city for clout bc the rich citizens were all racist, and I tried to helpâI snuck them food to the unsafe ruins they set up in for weeks, but eventually, they just vanished, and I still bear immense guilt and self-hatred over not having stopped that.â And Danaeâs would be like âOne time a buddy of mine got kidnapped by super mutants. They turned him into one of them, and theyâre all abominations, so I killed him and it made me really sad.â And I was just like â...Oh danse. I really wanted to like you more. But what the fuck.â His relationship to Haylen is sweet though. And ofc I saved him in Blind Betrayal. I blew up the Prydwin so heâs safe now too, and he lives in the garden by my house and tells me how glad he is weâre friends, and Iâm p into that. Overall, my feelings on him are not strong at all though.
Porter Gage: Not a fan. Like, I appreciated he helped me kill the old boss, sure. And bc I owed him for that, I went to max affinity to see what there was to him as a person. And like, as far as raiders go, he was okay. But he wasnât deeply sympathetic, and heâs a slaver, and if you try to liberate the slaves he and the others own, he /will/ turn on and attempt to murder you immediately, no matter how close you were, so he made his choice, and it was to be a bad person and an asshole to the last. Really enjoyed the VAâs work a lot on him tho.
And there you have it đđđ. Thanks for asking!
#ask#anonymous#fallout 4#fo4#god I love them so much. I was really proud I kept all the OGs too. everyone but Gage. who had to go but itâs his own choice and fault đ¤ˇđťââď¸#GOD far harbor was a good dlc. itâs like the main quest choice again but way more condensed and twice as f ked up. my poor MC had only#come to terms just before with all the lives she took & started healing#doing bad things she did not want to do & knew he would know about and think less of her for doing. but she did them. đ bc of course she did#then she had to choose between letting the dude she loved be hurt in a way he wouldnât recover from & torpedoing her relationship to him by#she loves Nick and if itâs him or her itâs always gonna be her#I was SUFFERING. a lot. but I also loved it#donât come into my inbox and clown about liking Danse please or Gage. idc at all#like you are welcome to your opinion Iâm not gonna try to convince you /not/ to like him. plz do me the same courtesy & respect my right to#have an opinion u may not like
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Avengers Infinity War-First Time Watching Reaction Play-by-Play (Pt. 2)
Part 1
I wonder how many people Gamora has killed? What made her finally snap to not serve Thanos anymore?
How DID Gamora find it? Like, who told her?
How did Thanos capture nebula?
Poor nebula. Sheâs literally been through hell and back.
Ohhhh she snuck on board...
Thanos you suck so much. You favor one daughter over another.
Oh. Where was said map to the soul stone?
Gosh I feel so damn bad for nebula. She was raised as his daughter too but he tortured her and tore her apart. Nebula never had the chance to be her equal. She deserves so much.
Taught groot as an elective? What about all speak?
Buckle up rocket. Itâs gonna get emotional.
Thor is literally all alone. He needs a time to sit alone and cry and break a whole building.
Rocket and Thor friends? Please
1500 years old? Jane, honey, you escaped.
Gotta give it up to Hemsworthâs acting chops here. Especially talking to nobody in reality. Just a bunch of cgi
Ew ew ew eye socket
Should have washed that yikes
Snuck it out by hiding it up your? Huh? You watch too many movies rocket.
Huge title card. Thank you. I wouldnât have known where we were despite them saying their location many times.
How is that video game battery not dead?
Perceptive rabbit
I LOVE that they used a dwarf to play a giant character!!! This is brilliant! (And that dwarves are giant for some reason lol.)
Soooo again Thanos killed everyone EXCEPT Eitri despite his âmoralityâ supposedly being balance
Poor hands
Poor nebula
Smart nebula
Maybe should have waited to be fixed fully first
Ah crap. SOMEONE PICK UP THE SPACE PHONE
MANTIS
Love how Stark asks for peters help in steering and not Stephen lmao
Nice parking job
Peter, stop popping pop culture refs
Lmao ITS ABOUT TO BE THE ICONIC SCENE
YES PLEASE
Blanket of Death. Capey has a new nickname.
Whereâs Gamora
Whoâs Gamora
Why is Gamora
What master do you serve?
Jesus?
I mean, yea I do. So does Pratt lmaoo.
LMAO PARKERâS FACE WHEN QUILL SAID THOR WASNT HANDSOME
Storm breaker time baby
âIn theory it could summon the bifrostâ who theorized this? How do you only theorize and not know?
Oh my gosh mantis is just bouncing around
Mr. Clean lmao
Kick names, take ass
Hey now, these guys saved the galaxy and universe from Ego so lmao
Oh no I know the scene coming up
Poor quill lmao
âIâm half human. So the 50% of me thatâs stupid, thatâs 100% of you.â âYour math is, blowing my mind.â Whatâs funny is that Quillâs math was actually completely accurate lol
Stephen having a stroke or a seizure? You good homie?
Soooo if Strange looked to the future and so possible outcomes, what does that mean for the TVA? According to them, thereâs ONE sacred timeline, so all other branches are erased (which again messes up what smart hulk eventually says in end game. See kids, this is why you donât mess with time travel in stories. Thereâs no way to go back in time without creating a time loop). Ehhhhh Iâll let it slide. Just ignore it... sigh... I canât help it if Iâve studied paradoxes
Hmmmm not good odds Iâve gotta say...
Watch like, outside of the millions of realities that strange saw, there were like a million or billion more he missed where they won with no casualties lol
Hey Red Skull. Long time no see. How did he get here anyways and why?
Yea youâre prepared all right...
Gotta say, Lord Elrond has seen better days
Iâm not ready to say good bye to this Gamora. Gamora and Loki and Nat go down as my favorite characters, gotta say. I know that Tony does and itâs sad, but his feels more satisfying because his sacrifice directly results in them winning. Loki is murdered. Gamora is murdered. Nat died just for a stepping stone for the avengers. She has no idea whether or not they will actually win in the end.
Iâm hopeful they may bring Nat back like in the comics, red room clone style.
We got back vision, Loki (kinda), variant Gamora, a new captain America, why not Nat? Yea we have a prequel, but gosh I love her so much.
âYou must lose that which you love.â Couldnât that apply to like an object or something? Could I not throw my Nintendo switch over the cliff? Or my dog? (I would hate that just as much as a person, donât get me wrong, Iâm just curious about the rules)
Yea boohoo sad for Thanos... loses his favorite daughter. I donât care about him. He deserves suffering.
Poor Gamora doesnât think heâs willing to do it.. GIRL RUN!!!
Thanos deserves all the suffering.
He does love you Gamora... but that love... itâs selfish. Itâs blind... Thanos seems to be a chaotic vigilante who is narrowminded, tunnel vision on his goal with no regards of the cost. But he is evil. If there is ever an alternate route to an end that doesnât result in the loss of innocent lives, and you know that but you willingly choose the once that costs innocent lives, that is an evil decision. Maybe Thanos isnât evil, but heâs not good. Far from it. Heâs obsessed with this idyllic Utopia but he rushes to one method of getting there. Yes, people suffer. It sucks... itâs unfair... itâs horrible. But it is never the right of someone else to dictate whether or not said person would be better off dead. Who lives, who dies. If Thanos truly was neutral and not selfish, he would have thrown his own life into the mix of the potential 50/50 snap. Thanos is not good. Heâs not misunderstood. Heâs a murderer. A genocidal cult leader. I have no tears for him. Only for those who suffered more at his hands.
Rant over, time to try not to cry about Gamora...
Her face of realization
Gamora run please
Thanos, I hate you. (Great character her, but not a good person)
Poor Gamora
Oh my gosh the emotion here is great but Iâve heard this sound used as a meme on TikTok too many times aghhhh
Gamora!
What a way to die
Iâm crying again. I miss her already...
Who the hell designed this place and put the stone here???? Who did this?
Cry Thanos. Suffer. My only comfort here is that you are sad. You deserve suffering. You really do...
The TVA is laughing here and Iâm not okay..
Poor Peter Quill... heâs also lost a lot like Thor, but has had the âluckâ of not knowing his family too close.
Wakanda babyyyy
No, you donât want Starbucks, you want Dutch bros
Lmao I love rhodey. Poor Bruce.
BUCKY BUCKY BUCKY
HUG
NO CMON HAVE A LONG HUG
MALE FRIENDSHIPS ARE SO IMPORTANT.
Yea Shuri show em up.
Okay quick pause, I love love LOVE how Shuri is smarter. Itâs a powerful moment for females BUT itâs not done in a way thatâs condescending to males! Itâs not saying women power because men bad, sheâs just good! (And she has had access to technology they never could have but I digress). More of this please Hollywood. Donât let being a female be the power. I donât want strong female characters, I want strong characters who happen to be female. Ones who hold their own, have faults like anyone else, struggle, have weaknesses and strengths, but are strong without putting down others. Just a comment, just because a woman character may not be as strong as a man character, that is not saying sheâs weak. If youâre the second strongest human in the world, you are NOT weak. Youâre just not as strong as the strongest human ever, but thatâs nothing against you. LET WOMEN STAND ON THEIR OWN MERITS WITHOUT SEX AFFECTING THEM!
Anyways
I love Shuri
I wish they had more time. She definitely could have done it. But stupid Thanos
Ughhhghhg
I know what many scenes are upcoming... with quill and peter and vision and everyone else
LetđđťBuckyđđťHaveđđťPeaceđđť
Thank you Nat!!! I love that Nat is so protective and selfless.
GET THIS MAN A SHIELD
Bucky needs love please. Heâs my stand in, manipulated, greasy, long haired, dark and mysterious, stabby boy. (Also I need Bucky and Loki to meet. But let Loki finish his show (and come out of it alive because if he doesnât I will sue) and be the antihero hero we need. Please. If he doesnât get reintroduced into the mcu as a hero I will sue.
Thor, sweetie, are you a masochist?
Back to wakanda
Oh no, bad CGI, floating head Bruce banner. Iâll let it slide... sigh....
Canât like, you just rain bombs on them forever?
JIBARI TRIBE YEA BOYYYYY
Sorry Proxima Midnight, you look like a frog and your name sounds like a middle schoolerâs OC.
How nice. Diplomatic meeting.
âThanos will have nothing but dust and blood.â Reeeeeeally wish you didnât say that, TâChalla...
Yay big CGI battle commence! Itâs like a really expensive animated cartoon at this point
WAKANDA FOREVER!
Poor Bucky. Forgot this dude doesnât know much about the modern world.
Ahhhh Kamikazi aliens
I just wanna say that I love that Wakanda still has the artistic culture in their clothing and tradition all the while having badass, super advanced technology.
Why canât they just rain bombs down the whole fight lol. Rhodey has those super nice bombs, like, do that they he whole time? Please? Why do you not have a barrier around the entire king.
No MâBaku, itâs not the end of wakanda. But half of all life, yea
WAKANDA FOREVER YEAAAAAAA
They should honesty all have nano tech suits like black panther lol. Or iron man suits. Fine maybe the most powerful one with the best quality material for the king, but besides that, yknow.
Wow Steve is hot with a beard.
So much happening at once. Thor, Wakanda, Vormir, Knowhere, am I missing anything?
Okay, but what IS the full force of a star? Like in Newtonâs or something? Juls? Is it heat?
Whatâs this metal? How does it fare with vibranium?
Get off your wooden butt, groot.
âHe needs the axeâ are you Thor, the god of axes?
Soooo, I thought Thor didnât NEED the hammer, it just helped him concentrate his powers or act as a conduit. Is that retconned already?
Cmon groot, put down your game. Soooo, is Groot worthy? He technically lifted it. Or is it a technicality because it wasnât fully finished yet?
Cmon bucky, use that fancy arm of yours.
Wow theyâre getting destroyed.
They need wanda to help.
BADASS ENTRANCE BABYYYY
How did Thor know to come to wakanda?
Floaty head Bruce
âBRING ME THANOS!â
Ahhhhhahahaha yeaaaaaa
Cry Thanos. Do it. I hate you.
Much more of a purple grape nutsack.
Oh gosh... I know what Peter Quill is going to do. I still donât hate him.
âWith all six stone I would simply snap my fingers. They would all cease to exist.â Orrrr, now hear me out, I know I sound like a broken record now but... MAYBE DOUBLE THE RESOURCES INSTEAD?? Thatâs not mercy. Thatâs not up to you to decide whether or not someoneâs better off dead.
Smoosh
Yea quill has experience with the power stone
AIM FOR THE HEAD
Cmon itâs basic zombie tactics
I love peter quill lmao
Go capey!!!
Magic with a kick!
Poor Peter
CAPEY NOOOOOO
Wow heâs OP
Ouch quill just got majorly clotheslined
NEBULA
âWhereâs Gamora?â đđđ SHE CARES AGHHHH
Restrain him! Work it mantis!!!
Why even remove the gauntlet, just slit his throat... kill him....
Quill no... stop being cocky...
Oh no
Quill please donât
JUST SLIT THANOSâ THROAT
Quill please....
Poor quill. Just lost the person who really really loved him
Okay, I still love star lord. Idc what others think. He reacted realistically. If you hate peter quill for how he reacted, you better also hate Tony Stark for how he reacted to bucky when he learned bucky killed his parents despite knowing for a fact that bucky was brainwashed. Yes it was annoying... yes they were so close, but quill is so human here. I donât hate him. He gets too much hate for acting like any normal person would have. Distraught, grief filled, he lost his love. Someone who helped him open up and finally move on from his motherâs death and fathers villainy.
Spider man saving mantis gives me life
How did that power stone blast not kill them?
Clearly Thanos has played Majoraâs Mask. At least he has good taste.
So close vision.... but I know... I know what happens.
YES BUCKY AND ROCKET GUN CIRCLE.
Lmao give rocket Buckyâs old arm.
âI am Groot.â âI am Steve Rogers.â Comedy gold
Cmon Thor, go after the big one first.
Cmon wanda, save them. We need some scarlet witch magic up here to stop these
Okay that was so cool. AND THEN SHE USED THE BLADES
Oh no but now Shuri is alone
So close yet so far.... Dangit... vision was almost good
Ouch. Bonk to the head
YEA BLACK WIDOW
BADASS TIME
AND OKOYE!!
LETS GOOOOOOO
BADASS WOMEN
Ouch poor vision
Cmon Thor back up vision
Please
Hulk is in his feels
Cmon hulk grow up
Ooooh smart move banner
Aaaaand heâs gone
Giant blade look oit
Corvus, screw off.
YEA STEVE
WHERE IS THOR WHEN YOU NEED HIM
CMON NAT
Oh dang. Nice one wanda. But also, sheesh. Helluva way to go. But no big.
Yea vision. Stabby time.
Now vision and Steve, kiss.
Spider man saving everyoneâs lives.
YEA STRANGE
Where was this in New York???
MULTIPLYING
WHY DIDNT YOU DO THIS IN THE FIRST PLACE????
Oh no
Well then... ouch. Soooo whereâs the real stone???
Hey look Tony, you have a fan.
Okay Iâm just pissed odd they didnât just kill Thanos when they had him subdued. Like, worry about the glove AFTER heâs not longer a threat
Oof
Tony is taking a beating
HE WAS STABBED
WHAT
I don���t want your respect Thanos. Thatâs an insult.
They will remember him. They will remember him Thanos. When he kills you.
DOCTOR STRANGE WHAT?
You really doing this??? I guess he knows what needs to unfold for them to win... dang. I wouldnât trust him tho.
Peter Quill in berserker mode
Whereâd he go?
Name dropping the second movie
Strange knows everything about to go down. Who dies, who lives, what Thanos is about to do... heâs accepting his soon dusted demise because Stark needs to live...
AIM FOR THE HEAD UGHHHHH
Stop teleporting. Thatâs Lokiâs gimmick.
KILL THIS RAISIN LOOKING NUTSACK UGH
Homie way too OP
Poor wanda and Vis...
HER LIP TREMBLE
PHENOMENAL ACTING
SAY I LOVE YOU
I JUST FEEL YOU
AGGHHHH IM CRYING AGAIN
Poor wanda. To have to kill her love... this.. this is a sacrifice Thanos... not your murder....
Wow Steve is holding back Thanos with pure brute
WANDA IS SO STRONG
HOLDING BACK THANOS WHILE SIMULTANEOUSLY BREAKING THE MIND STONE
I LOVE YOU
AGHHHHHHHHH
And I know what happens next...
Poor wanda
Piss off thanos you understand nothing
You lost more than she could know? Bull crap. You are causing everyone to lose...
Cruel reality. Wanda has to see him die twice. RIP Vision
RIP half of all life...
AIM FOR THE DAMN HEAD
IF THOR KILLED HIM THEY COULD HAVE USED THE GAUNTLET TO BRING EVERYONE BACK TO LIFE. USED THE TIME STONE TO REVIVE THEM ALL.
How did that not kill Thanos tho. It may not have been a head shot but still.
Lil Gamora
What is this place?
Is this the soul realm?
Thanos, I hope you suffer forever. You deserve all the pain...
Rest In Peace: Vision, Loki, Bucky, TâChalla, Groot, Wanda Maximoff, Sam Wilson, Mantis, Drax, Peter Quill, Dr. Strange, Peter Parker (I donât feel so good), and everyone else...
Thank you Nebula.
Thanos, you do NOT deserve to retire peacefullyâwipe that smile off of your face
Oop, Rest In Peace Maria Hill and Nick Fury too... Motherfuâ (so close Sammy boy...)
Yea Thanos you didnât really think that through. Much more than half will died since other people rely on other peoples lives
Good thing he hit that button last minute huh? I wonder how captain marvel would fare in the TVA? are her powers considered magic? I mean, she clearly doesnât know everything since she only just learned about Thanos (which is funny because she was supposedly traversing the universe to protect people)
Welp... onto movie two!
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She's hilarious but there's two videos where she starts to speak more mumblingly
ok first of all these are brilliant and i'm losing my mind and i love you, thank you for curating these to me.
i will transcribe them in a bit but i just felt the need to leave this "little" (it's long sorry) note:
as someone who's been raised catholic i just want to say that she is pretty wrong about almost everything she said about catholics, and i say that as someone who hates catholicism with my whole mind body and soul and who's been traumatized by this stupid fucking faith to the point where i can't get into a church without breaking into sobs dauihdasiuh. the catholic guilt is real but catholics are absolutely allowed to divorce and use contraceptives, and also have sex before marriage. the first one is met with some guilt esp from women altho honestly i think it's more due to mysoginist reasons than religious reasons, and the second and third ones are commonpractice and if you say that it's wrong and bad everyone will think you're a fucking weirdo
and even with the divorce thing, while the guilt is there (im pretty sure half the reason my mom doesn't divorce is because she would feel guilty about it, although again, i feel like that's got very little to do with religion and way more with internalized mysoginy), i cannot stress enough that divorce is allowed, almost everyone i know has divorced parents and they're all catholics. the church's official position is kinda weird (as of now pope francis basically said that it's "morally necessary" in some cases but he also referred to ppl who divorced and remarried as "imperfect", but like, it hasn't been forbidden for years, so much so that people get second marriages at catholic churches literally all the time, and i kinda feel like ppl overestimate how much ppl care about what the pope says. at least here in latam, cuz we've always kind of freestyled religion since it was imposed on us anyway, but like... in my experience the average catholic practitioner is INCREDIBLY less conservative than the vatican and i feel like most people don't even know what the pope says or doesn't say. and i'm saying that as someone whose grandfather almost became a priest and only gave that up because he fell in love with my grandmother, and he's been a ferverent catholic his entire life. also two of his kids divorced, one married a divorced woman, one is gay and living together without marriage with his divorced boyfriend, one never married, and one had two kids before marriage which necessarily means that they fucked, and none of that was ever a problem to him. oh, also, my dad had divorced AND he was a buddhist when him and my mom married. currently he is a spiritist)
i think it might be possible that u technically have to ask for "permission" to the church to remarry in church, but in practice i think it's more of a ritualistic thing than actually asking for permission, cuz i've never met a single person who had them say no. it was pretty much "hey local bishop guy so my husband sucked and we divorced can i marry again" "sure lol". obviously it sucks that you even have to ask, but it's nowhere near as strict as people seem to think
the contraceptive thing is also absurd. like i cannot stress enough that my family would absolutely flip if they found out i DIDN'T use contraception. that was always something that my family reinforced very strongly, ESPECIALLY my grandpa. i've never met a single catholic who does not teach their kids to use contraceptives. my high school was catholic (literally named the Holy Cross, fun times, although they didn't impose the faith or anything. in fact almost half of the students in that school are jewish, but like, still, there was a priest in the school board) and we were taught to use contraceptives, put the condom in a banana and the whole pizzazz during biology class
like yeah the bible says not to but it also says not to mix different fabrics and that doesn't mean it's actually a thing that's reinforced in most catholic communities doaihdaj at least not here in latam. in here non-catholic christians are actually way more hardcore about the puritanism rules than catholics are, particularly evangelicals, which are kind of overtaken the catholics' traditional role of being colonialist fuckers as they are mostly from the US so they come to further US imperialism through religion here. watch out catholic church they're coming for ur crown
and even outside of puritanism, "non practicing catholics" are absolutely a thing like ppl who are catholic but don't even pray or go to church, much less care about that shit douahdsaohj so like the stereotype that all catholics are like the very small minority of hardcore catholics is like the stereotype that every muslim lives by the ultra-conservative muslim rules. it's not true and it's stereotypical and taking the minority ultra conservatives to be the rule when they are not
there's also the fact that there are many different currents of thought inside the catholic church (a little bit like with judaism although way less flexible than judaism is), some of which are very conservative, some of which are progressive. here in latam in particular the teology of liberation is extremely popular (it's the one my family subscribes to, and i'm pretty sure it was actually born here in latam) and it's pretty progressive. for catholics, that is
and like mandatory disclaimer that i am coming from my own experiences with latam catholicism, which i feel is different from other catholic countries - my polish friends for example have experiences with catholicism that are a lot closer to those stereotypes than mine ever were - but since most of the catholic population in the world is brazilian (like me), and second place goes to mexicans, i feel pretty comfortable taking it as a ruler to measure general catholic practices
with that being said, however, the catholic church can choke and die in a fire as it is a symbol of colonialism first and foremost, its proselitism is one of the worst things ever, and even the progressive currents are still way too damn conservative for my tastes. i just don't feel comfortable transcribing something that i know is incorrect and stereotypical (and that in some cases is used to further oppression like with the Irish in the UK or armenian catholics, and i've even had some US-diaspora latinos hear some incredible things from gringos who assumed they were catholic, or, in their beautiful words, "had latino religion". but obviously in most cases catholics are the oppressors, especially here in the third world)
also, her assessment in the third video is absolutely correct. A/B/O IS just conservative gender roles born of christian and catholic imposition transposed to a fictional world where the genders have slightly different names, which is why i, as a rule, hate it dauhdsaiuhdauhda and even though the assessment that catholicism is thaaat much more conservative than other christian religions (it's absolutely not, it's Exactly As Conservative) isn't true, catholicism is still where most if not all of western conservative rethoric is born of, and ugh, it's so refreshing to see someone understand this and put it into words so well
so yeah keep that note in mind but anyway, transcriptions:
[Video transcription #1: in reply to a tiktok question, which says, "now i'm thinking about the catholic guilt that would come with it oh my god". user @Omarsbigsister is saying, "good morning", she then covers her mouth as she starts to laugh, before continuing, "I guess I'm the religious omegaverse tiktoker now. I did not know catholic guilt was more than just sex, I thought it was just about sex, but nO. people who are catholic, if you don't know, they get guilt over every little thing, they get guilty when they eat, they have guilt when, like... [dismissive gesture] they have fun... it's messed up *cut* [mumbling i don't understand, sorry] in which you HAVE to be bonded before... *sticks tongue out* *cut* and catholics, from what i know, uhm, cannot get divorced, so you can't be unbonded, you're stuck for life with that alpha or omega, and then you can't use contraceptives so if you have a heat or rut, good luck, you cannot escape it, and on top of that, they preach abstinence, right, so if you're having a heat or rut in your teen years you just gotta deal with it alone like you are not allowed to be bonded, so, that would be really intense."
#2: in response to a question, which said, "follow up question: if in the real world hijabis are women, in ABO universe would hijabis be omegas of all genders?". the user is shown stroking her chin in contemplative silence for a long time, before she says, "actually, both men and women have to wear a hijab, it's just more visible on women, but men also have to cover from like, the neck all the way down... so like when you see them [mumbling i don't understand, sorry] that's their hijab. *cut* Islam is actually treating men and women, like, fairly somewhat equally, so, I feel like in omegaverse alphas, betas, and omegas would all be held to the same standards, and alphas and omegas would also be held by the same standards but then culture would ruin it, just like western culture has ruined it. for your other question. 'would muslim families prefer betas more, and would betas be spiritual leaders', i feel like everyone prefers betas more, but then also Islam came to like, uplift women [a written note then shows up, which says, "like girls are seen as a blessing to have as kids"], so like omegas would be seen as like, a blessing to have as a child.
#3: in response to another tiktok question, which says, "fun fact bestie you cannot get divorced in the catholic religion even if your spouse is abusive and horrible to you so in omegaverse how would that work?". she replies, "the reason that Abrahamic religions seemingly fit so well into the omegaverse universe is because catholicism specifically and christianity, uhm, all the gender norms and all the cultural norms especially in the west came from catholicism and christianity, they were forced on people, and then you know, people might not be religious, but the norms stay. but now you have omegaverse which is basically just a bunch of like youth exploring the youth through this, like, werewolf fanfiction trope, using all these gender roles that you have in society on their head, so, really, what i'm saying, is that... omegaverse is just catholicism fanfiction"
#4: she looks at the camera and says, "getting islamophobic comments is one thing, but getting islamophobic comments that say that muslims cannot be in the omegaverse".... she then breaks into laughter for a solid 30 seconds
#5: she is shown reading out loud, in a mock-outraged face, a tweet that says, "about to murder tiktok they try to make Ramadan a 'quirky' trend. it's a religious holiday. stop it, get some help. /srsly /g.", then a follow-up tweet, which says, "saw a tweet saying on tiktok they are asking questions about how ramadan would work in omegaverse. i'm done with y'all, just say you disrespect muslims and go". then another tweet by a different user, which says, "i tried to read, i got secondhand embarrassment-" they then break out of character and say, "oh, that's fair," before going back, "if it wasn't ramadan i'd be boxing those people right now. those people should be ashamed to even think that way wtf". then another, which replies, "well i'm not celebrating it, so as a non-muslim, i'll happily box them". then, back to her normal voice, she says, "i really was just making a silly little tiktok and seeing that stuff really hurts... i'm just kidding, i can't keep a straight face. you like minecraft youtubers, what are you gonna do to me? what are you gonna do to me?"
#6: in reply to a tiktok ask, which said, "prince philip was an omega". she slowly films herself as she takes a walk, finds the nearest trash bin, and tosses the phone there, before putting the lid over the box. end ID]
#i hope u dont take that as me being mad at u anon#honestly i could care less if ppl offended catholics#i just dont like spreading misinformation and once i started writing i couldnt stop#the videos are still amazing and spot on tho except for the first one#long post#discourse#catholicism tw
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i'm the anon asking about Luke's Jedi school, i guess i meant the whole who, what, when, where, why thing? who was there? what did they do, in general? when was this (which i guess means how long after ROTJ)? i guess the where and the why can be skipped cause you said it was on yavin iv (right?) and the why is obviously the "pass on what you have learned" so yeah. also a random question haunting my brain is how did they, like, get groceries, were they near a town or something? thankssssss
OKÂ *cracks knuckles*
The Whoozle - Lukeâs first class attendees were:
Tionne (a scholar/historian and musician)
Dorsk 81 (a clone from an entire society of clones)
Kirana Ti (a Dathomiri witch)
Kam Solusar (a former member of cloned Palpatineâs Dark Side Elite)
Brakiss (an Imperial spy who never fooled Luke but he kept him on hoping to turn him to good; he eventually ran off and got recruited by another failed student, Dolph)
Streen (a Bespin tibanna gas prospector who kept himself isolated from sentient contact because he couldnât control his strong latent Force empathy from picking up everyoneâs thoughts and emotions around him)
Gantoris (tormented leader of a forgotten colony on a deadly volcanic planet)
Corran Horn (attending under an alias of âKeiran Halcyonâ for Reasonsâ˘, otherwise a cocky asshole from the X-wing novels lol)
Kyle Katarn (a dude who got his own graphic novels/video games; he didnât stick around for long and had a bunch of adventures on his own - and actually spent some time tutoring Mara Jade)
Kyp Durron (a sadly messed-up kid who was fucked over by the Empire real good and thrown into the spice mines of Kessel before he could even reach puberty, so he carried a really big traumatic chip on his shoulder; he was like barely 17 or 18 when he was busted out and started at the academy)
Cilghal (a female Mon Cal - a niece of Admiral Ackbar, and also a New Republic ambassador - who possessed a natural talent for healing)
Mara Jade (that baddest bitch we all know and love from the Thrawn Trilogy lol)
***Thereâs a few others mentioned on Wook but Iâm not including them here because theyâre kind of sprinkled in from various other EU media and donât make an appearance (that I can recall) in the actual JAT series.
The Whatzle - everything got started in the Jedi Academy Trilogy by KJAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
*cough* sorry XD
Fun fact: apparently it was Mon Mothmaâs idea to suggest the location and not Luke, go figure.
The Whenzle - about 7 years after ROTJ (I get annoyed with Legends EU always dating stuff as âX years ABY,â meaning After the Battle of Yavin, so I always gotta mentally subtract 4 years from those dates).
The Wherezle - yep, Yavin 4, a nice green steamy joint much nicer than Dagobah, where you can still get swamp-ass without the swamp. They repurposed the ancient temple that the Rebellion had used as a base in ANH.
The Whyzle - Luke eventually let the fire under his ass get lit and petitioned the New Republic to get his Jedi school started so he could finally not be the only fucking Jedi saving the whole-ass galaxy all the damn time...aka, yes, âpass on what you have learned.â (Like I mentioned, this took place barely a year after Palpatine tried to come back and wreck everything again, so there was definitely some motivation from that plus the Thrawn disaster that happened the year before THAT. The GFFA is always crisis-central so the Jedi needed to make a serious comeback.)
WHAT DO - Like I also mentioned, Luke was still figuring everything out regarding the old Jedi Order, and his own training had been the severely abridged Cliff Notes version (plus, um, these books were written way ahead of the prequels so...they donât mesh well), so needless to say his teaching methods were not nearly as formal, and he tended to use examples from his own training. Because he was the only master to go around, there wasnât any pairing up for âpadawansâ at this point, he was teaching everybody simultaneously, so there were a lot of group lectures and activities. Theyâd also gather to hear Tionne sing about Jedi history that sheâd researched and turned into ballads. In order to keep everything running, there also likely had to be task assignments as part of everyday life - somebodyâs gotta clean the toilets and cook, etc., but thatâs technically extrapolation.
JEDI DOORDASH - no, loooool, considering that this place was on a jungle moon, they had a nice tropical climate but not a ton of clear space for agriculture. Keep in mind Lukeâs a former moisture farmer (and I canât believe the only thing the Larses were harvesting was literal moisture) - he had to have extensive knowledge of hydroponics or other indoor farming, and that temple is huge, so itâs totally possible they could grow at least some of their own produce. But they need a lot more supplies than that, especially at the beginning, so they had supply runs from cargo ships who would bring them stuff - and hey, Mara herself was one of those supply pilots sometimes. Some of my fellow Legends peeps also conceptualized the academy as opening up to some tourism to contribute much-needed funds - come chillax in the hot springs and learn more about the âmysteriousâ Jedi that used to creep so many people out back in the day, and see theyâre just ordinary folks like everyone else...
...except that, yeah, they can technically kill you with their minds. :)
In Legends it seems like the academy (also known as a Praxeum) was the only habitation on Yavin 4, but in Disney nu!canon there are other settlements on the moon; Poe Dameronâs parents Shara Bey and Kes Dameron go live there with a baby Force tree. Feel free to remix and mash-up whatever elements you dig!
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Void (Part Eleven)
"I know this might be the wrong time, Lance. But I think we need to talk."
"Yeah, we do."
Lance took a deep breath as he did his best to maintain eye contact with Allura. Every single fiber in his being wanted to look away from her gaze, hoping to avoid her almost hypnotic blue pupils so that he wouldn't be susceptible to this guilt-ridden trance. But he knew that that was impossible. Where's the fairness in keeping all of his thoughts and emotions away from her while she remained none the wiser? He knew that this day was bound to happen eventually, but he just wished he had been the one to make the first move. Lance couldn't help but to feel almost bombarded with this turn of events. The only thing he could do now was let out a heavy sigh.
"Where do you wanna start?" Lance asked somewhat tiredly, hoping that the whole floor would swallow him whole. Allura could only give the recovering paladin a pitiful expression before she began to speak, her gaze slowly turning firm.
"I feel that the beginning would be best." Allura spoke firmly. Lance nodded in acknowledgement. He extended his hand toward the princess, prompting her to continue.
"Lance, I'm starting to get worried and a little bit frustrated. Ever since we came back to Earth, I felt as though things started to change between us. It felt as though we had gotten closer, especially since you were there for me at my most vulnerable. When you first asked me to go on a date with you, I'll admit that I was somewhat...reluctant. But once I went and witnessed the way you acted with your family around you, it felt as though I truly belonged somewhere." Lance's eyebrows furrowed at the statement, but the princess didn't take notice.
"But then after dinner, things just...shifted. You started to become jumpy and almost panicked. And it seems to have reached a point where you've started to ignore me." Lance shifted his gaze downward as he shifted awkwardly.
Damn, she's perceptive.
The princess couldn't help but to curl her hands into fists.
"Are you?" she asked anxiously. The red paladin rubbed his hands together nervously as he stayed beneath her gaze.
"Y-you're not wrong." he replied quietly, his frame shrinking in on itself as if he were being encased in a small, tight box. Shame overtook him as he heard Allura let out a heavy sigh, something he didn't want to hear. The last thing he wanted was to make the Altean feel as though she was someone to be avoided. He lifted his gaze once more as the princess slowly crossed her arms, almost as if she was trying to shield herself from the revelation's blowback.
"Why?" Allura whispered desperately. Lance released a quiet sigh as he stood from the window ledge.
"Look, Princess. I never wanted to avoid you, believe me. That was my last intention." Lance started. He proceeded to rub his arm awkwardly as he shifted from foot to foot. "It's just that...so many things have been going on with me and I've just been trying to maintain a grip on it, y'know? I've just been trying to make sense of it all." Allura's brows furrowed in confusion at the statement.
"What is there to make sense of?" the princess inquired. Lance felt his breath hitch in his throat. Honestly, he couldn't understand why he was hoping she would leave things at that and the only conclusion he could come up with was that he was being way too damn optimistic for his own good. He already knew deep down that wasn't going to be enough for her, so why the hell was he so surprised that he wasn't? The young Cuban was so lost in his thoughts he didn't register the feeling of Allura's hands on his shoulders.
"Lance. Please just talk to me." Allura quietly pleaded, her somber eyes piercing their way into Lance's memory. It didn't take long for the red paladin to feel a newfound chill creep its way through his body from where her hands laid. He might as well have been encased in a block of ice from how quickly the freezing sensation overtook his entire core. A stark contrast from the overwhelming heat he had been feeling for the last few weeks. It took everything in him not to recoil from her touch.
"I-It's not that easy, Princess." Lance answered somberly, grabbing Allura's hands and removing them from his shoulders. He closed his eyes tightly as he finally turned away from the princess, back facing her.
"There are so many things that I need to figure out. And I need to do it alone."
"Like quiznak you don't!" Allura shouted, agitated. Lance felt himself flinch at the princess' shout. Honestly, he had expected this. "Lance, whatever you're going through you don't have to do it on your own! We can talk about this!"
"No, we can't!" Lance exclaimed.
Allura was taken aback, stumbling back a couple of steps. She hadn't meant to upset him again like she did the last time she came to see him, but she wasn't going to allow him to push her away. She quickly regained her composure and stood up straight, waiting for Lance's next words.
"Allura, I know that you think this is something that you can fix but you can't. No one can. Not you, not Shiro, not Keith. The only one who needs to work things out is me. Which means I gotta do it alone." Lance let out a chuckle deprived from humor and life. "Besides, this isn't the first time I've been alone."
The confession took the princess by surprise.
"What's that supposed to mean?" she asked in alarm. The red paladin let out another humorless chuckle before turning back around to face the princess.
"Exactly what I meant. While you and everyone else was doing their thing, I was always relegated to the side. I mean, come on! Pidge and Hunk did the tech stuff. Shi-He did the leader stuff. Keith was doing his Blade stuff. I couldn't do what they did, so all I could do was stay in my room and play video games all day. Hell, you and Coran even popped up in my room that one time! What was I going to do? Walk right up to you to tell you how lonely I was?" Lance asked, clearly agitated from having to recount his time back in the Castle of Lions.
Allura's eyes widened in disbelief. She felt her blood run cold as she took in Lance's words.
She did remember.
She did remember visiting Lance's room with Coran, wishing to experience what it was like to have a milkshake from Kaltenecker. She remembered him urgently pressing the buttons on his controller as he tried to focus on his task on the screen. She had honestly thought that he stayed in his room on purpose, not wanting to be bothered with anyone to just play away to his heart's content. She never expected the reason to be as heart-aching as this, and she was none the wiser. Allura's gaze flickered to the floor before looking back up at the red paladin. She took slow steps towards him as she reached out and grabbed his hand.
"You can now."Allura finally replied, gently squeezing his hand.
"Lance, I'm so sorry that you were alone. But you don't have to be. Pidge and Hunk are still here. Keith and Shiro are back. It's as if everything is falling back in place. And, you should know that you can come to me." she finished, a hopeful smile slowly creeping onto her face. Lance felt his chest clench at her last statement. And not in a good way. He slowly shook his head.
"No, Allura. I don't know that." Lance said firmly, a hint of sadness laced in his voice. Allura's eyes widened in shock as she was once again taken aback, releasing her hold on his hand. Was she truly that unreliable or unapproachable to him now?
"W-why don't you know?" Allura stammered. Lance groaned as he ran his hand through his hair. The longer this conversation continued, the more annoyed and agitated he felt himself become. He just wanted this to be over and go back to his dorm and pretend this never happened. But that dream is becoming less and less of a reality.
"It's just...sometimes I feel like I can't talk to you. And mainly because you're you. You're the princess of Altea who's focused on defeating the Galra and I'm just a boy from Cuba who ended up flying a mechanical lion in an intergalactic space war. And to top things off, we've been butting heads. You literally got mad at me for not agreeing with you about leaving the armor!" Lance exclaimed, annoyance finding its way to the surface. The Altean's confused gaze hardened into a defensive one as she felt herself grow irritated.
"Must we talk about this again?" Allura asked in exasperation.
"Yes, because it proves my point. You didn't like that I was the tiebreaker for us leaving the armor and you just walked away from me without saying goodbye! Almost as if I'm not allowed to have a differing opinion from you. And to add the cherry on top, you got mad at Keith and blamed him for me almost dying! It was like the Galra reveal all over again!"
Allura's voice caught in her throat. Not only did Lance bring back up their fight, but now he was bringing up how she was after Keith revealed his heritage, a mistake she has been trying her hardest to avoid and regrets deeply.
"T-that's different!" Allura replied, her voice raised.
"Barely! You're mad at Keith for something that was completely out of his control and instead of just talking to him, you go out of your way to treat him like the bad guy! And I know you remember what I said to you about that, right?"
Allura gritted her teeth at the memory.
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"You went too far, Princess."
Allura turned her head quickly to find Lance, standing in front of her. He had his arms crossed somewhat tightly as he looked at her with an expression that consisted of exhaustion and...disappointment.
"What do you mean?" she asked.
"You know exactly what I mean. I saw everything." Lance answered, annoyed at the question.
He had been walking down the hallway heading back to his room when he saw Keith leaning against the wall, looking at his knife. But before he had a chance to go and talk to him, Allura had come out of nowhere, snatching his knife from his hand and accusing him of plotting against the team. The Cuban boy could only stand dumbfounded as the woman he had feelings before tore down his teammate in front of his eyes, not holding anything back as she tore him limb from limb with the fangs that spewed from her insults. Keith, on the other hand, could barely get a word in as he tried to talk her down. Things only got worse as Keith was finally able to retrieve his blade from her grasp, only for Allura to push him away from her afterwards, saying that she didn't want to be 'touched by a filthy Galra like him.' Lance's eyes widened in horror as he saw Keith's entire frame deflate and heard his exhausted sigh as the red paladin walked away from the princess, presumably back to his room.
Allura crossed her arms at the revelation and averted her eyes from Lance's gaze. He wished that he hadn't seen what had transpired, but she was hoping he could see her side of things.
"Lance, you don't underst-" the princess started before she was interrupted.
"I understand perfectly. I just saw you attack Keith for no reason!" Lance shouted angrily. "I'm sorry, Princess, but this has gone on long enough!"
"I didn't attack anyone! He put his hands on me!"
"Because you took his sword! He wasn't trying to hurt you, he was getting something back that you took from him! The only person who did any attacking in this situation was you!"
"Me? I-I was just protecting myself!" Lance could only scoff before walking closer to the Altean.
"Do you hear yourself? Protection from Keith? Are you serious? You know that Keith would never put his hands on you, especially unprovoked!"
"You can never tell with the Galra." the princess spat out, venom laced in her voice. Lance could only shake his head. How could she not understand just how far she was taking things with Keith? He totally understood her distrust of the Galra considering everything she went through. But going out of her way to berate and alienate his teammate for something completely out of his control? That was something the blue paladin couldn't sit on the sidelines for, not anymore.
"So that's just it? One trace of DNA and you just forget everything that Keith's done for you?" Lance questioned, frustrated at the princess' behavior. "That's all it takes for someone to become a monster to you?"
"Am I not allowed to feel what I feel towards them, Lance?" Allura asked harshly, sending Lance a pointed look as she huffed and crossed her arms. Her gaze startled the blue paladin for a quick second, but didn't deter him from trying to get his point across.
"Yes! Towards Zarkon! Towards Haggar! Towards everyone who follows their beck and call! But not for those who oppose them! Whatever feelings you have towards them shouldn't be aimed at Keith!"
"And why not? He didn't find a problem with keeping the truth from us." Lance tilted his head in confusion at the statement.
"What are you talking about?"
"If Keith cared about my feelings or the team, he would've disclosed this information to us! Instead he just left all of us in the dark to blindside us!" Allura argued. The blue paladin could only look at the Altean incredulously as he tried to let her accusation sink in. So far, he wasn't doing a very good job as every fiber in his being wanted to scream into the cosmos at just how bad this situation was. He already hated arguing with the woman of his dreams, but the fact she was being so unfair and prejudicial made things harder. And it certainly didn't help matters that she actually thought that Keith knew about his Galra bloodline beforehand and clearly didn't get the memo.
"What?" Allura asked angrily.
"Allura. Keith didn't know he was Galra either." Lance answered quietly, tired of raising his voice in what felt to him a losing battle. The princess's expression, while still holding her anger, was now displaying complete confusion. Lance held his hand out as he continued to explain.
"Shiro told me everything. Keith didn't know he was Galra until after the trials he did at the Blade's base, which was the same day they came and pledged to join the Coalition. So if anything, he was just as blindsided as you were." the blue paladin confessed. Allura widened her eyes. She had honestly thought that Keith knew of his bloodline the entire time and that he had no choice but to tell the truth. A small part of her started to feel guilt, but she pushed it down, refusing to acknowledge her erratic conspiracies and behavior.
"Okay, maybe he didn't know who he truly was at the time. That still doesn't excuse the fact that I have to deal with this new information and the Blade of Marmora while it seems Keith has already accepted it" Allura stated weakly, before finally retrieving her strict persona from earlier. Lance settled into the silence that permeated the air for a few seconds before speaking up.
"You don't think Keith's been torn up about this?" the blue paladin asked sadly, thinking about how Keith acted earlier when Allura snapped at him. The way he didn't attempt to fight back against her words saddened Lance immensely. Yes, he still somewhat considered the red paladin his rival, but that didn't mean he liked seeing him sad all the time from the moment he dropped the truth bomb on everyone. Allura furrowed her brows slightly before he continued.
"Princess, do you have any idea how Keith must have felt? Don't you think a part of him was scared, almost horrified at the fact that he was Galra? Don't you think it was killing him to know that once the truth came out you were going to react the way you are now?" Allura could only stay silent as more pangs of guilt continued to strike her nerves the more Lance scolded her, causing her to look down at the floor.
"I know that Keith is the type of guy to keep things to himself, but regardless of what you think or feel about him, he's still human. And even if he's making an active effort not to show it, he's probably afraid and sad. And because of the way you've been treating him, he probably feels more alone than ever." Lance lamented. The princess exhaled through her nose as she closed her eyes, as if trying to block out the incoming onslaught of guilt and shame from Lance's words. She believed she had every right to act the way she was. She doesn't trust the Galra after what they did to her home and her family and now one of her own paladins is part of that race. She's allowed to have her suspicions about him. But Lance was making it fairly difficult to believe that.
"And do you know what's the worst part?" Lance's question pierced through the Altean's thoughts as she looked at the blue paladin, prompting him to go on.
"Despite all of your cruel words and actions, he doesn't stop you. He lets you say what you want to say and he takes it all, no matter how much it might hurt him because that's who Keith is. He respects and cares about you enough to let you berate him and bully him even if he doesn't deserve it because he knows the reason why." Lance finally finished, slowly letting the tension ease from his shoulders as he finally relinquished everything he wanted to say. He stood anxiously as he waited for the princess to respond. She merely shrugged at him.
"I don't know what you want me to say, Lance." Allura replied, her voice monotone. Lance gave a shrug of his own.
"I don't expect you to say anything, Princess. But I do want you to think about how you've been treating Keith because whether you like it or not he's the paladin of one of your lions and you need him. And if I'm being completely honest, something tells me that Keith never told us, you would be treating him normally like before. I'm not telling you to disregard your feelings because at the end of the day, they are valid. But I want you to look and see if you're willing to separate that hatred away from any Galra that would be willing to fight alongside us in the future, and that includes Keith." Lance spoke softly. Allura was about to interject into Lance's plead, but he beat her to the punch.
"And please, Princess, don't say that you won't be able to do that because of Keith being Galra because Coran went through the exact same thing you did and he still treats Keith the same way he did before the truth came out." Allura stood in shock, mouth agape. She couldn't help but to feel blindsided at the mention of Coran. She had been so focused on herself and everything else that she had assumed that Coran had felt the same way she did. But clearly she was wrong. She was so lost in thought that she almost didn't register Lance walking by her in the opposite direction, hands shoved in his pockets.
"Where are you going?" the princess asked hurriedly. Lance turned his head to her, a determined look on his face. Allura couldn't help but to recoil at his gaze, feeling as though she was a little girl being scolded by her father.
"To make sure my friend is okay. And one more thing."
Allura stayed quiet as he spoke.
"You may be the princess of Altea, but you're not always right."
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Allura sighed as she finally managed to get through the memory in its entirety.
"Yes, I remember." she replied. Looking back now, she couldn't help but to hate herself for what she said. If she was being completely honest, it was because of Lance confronting her that she was able to move past her feelings and apologize to Keith for how she treated him.
"But you see my point, right?" Lance asked as he crossed his arms. Allura nodded in response as she sighed.
"I do." the princess replied quietly. Lance could sense the guilt coming off of the Altean as he tried to ease it.
"Princess, I'm not bringing this back up to hurt you. I'm just trying to get you to see that we're not gonna agree on everything and you shouldn't be mad at me for that.'
"Lance, I didn't mean to get upset with you." said Allura, trying to apologize.
"But you did. And then when I ended up in the hospital, you got upset with me and Keith." Lance stated, remembering their argument that day.
"And you told me I was wrong." the princess acknowledged, rubbing her arm nervously. "Because that's who you are, Lance. Whenever I'm upset about something, you always find a way to talk me down." Allura slowly grabbed Lance's hand once more, looking into his blue eyes lovingly as a heartfelt smile made its way onto her face.
"Lance, I need someone like you in my life." Allura confessed. Lance felt his stomach churn at the confession. This moment once again became one of the instances in which the red paladin should consider this a win. He should be doing backflips just at the thought of Allura needing him. But at this moment, he wanted to run out of this room and never look back. The Cuban boy couldn't help but to smile sadly.
"No, you don't." Just as quickly as it appeared, Allura's smile fell at Lance's words. She could feel the fear flowing through her veins.
"Princess, I'm not the person you need. I'm the person you want." Lance stated, feeling himself get more and more drained as he spoke a truth that could no longer be contained.
"That's not true!" Allura panicked.
"Yes, it is. We have completely different goals. You're trying to save your people. I'm trying to stay alive and get home to my family. You need someone who can be on the same page as you and can talk you down much better than I possibly can. Someone with a similar goal in mind. Someone so much better. I can't-"
"Yes, you can!" Allura interrupted. "Whatever needs to change between us, it can be done! You don't have to be that boy anymore! Quiznak, you're not that boy anymore! You're a strong, capable, compassionate paladin who put his life on the line for me time and time again! My pr-" She widened her eyes in horror at what she was about to say while Lance seemed too stunned to speak, though he was making an active effort not to look so.
"Your what?" Lance asked dejectedly. It was the princess' turn to let go of Lance's hand, lowering her gaze to the floor. Her guilt was immeasurable as she heard Lance let out a sigh
"I'm not him, Allura." the red paladin stated somberly.
"I know that. So many things have changed." the Altean replied, slowly looking back up at Lance. She felt her stomach twist and turn in shame as she took a good look at his face, which showed nothing but defeat and hurt. And she knew that if she was a few steps closer, she could determine whether or not there were actual tears in his eyes ready to spill over.
"Yeah, they have." Lance turned around once more away from the princess. "There was a point in time where I thought that if I just played my part long enough and continued to stand by you that you would notice me. Maybe even fall in love with me. But instead, I had to sit back on the sidelines and watch you get close to someone who I knew would hurt you and the team, but you chose him over me."
Allura's heart fell to the pit of her stomach as she suppressed her gasp.
He knew?
"Y-You know?" Allura squeaked, her voice straining due to her anxiety. Lance quirked one of his brows quickly, slightly dumbfounded at her voice.
"Of course I do. I saw the way you looked at him. You never looked at me like that." Lance chucked sadly. The princess quietly exhaled in relief, but that didn't stop the guilt she felt from continuing to consume her. She didn't want to be responsible for all the pain Lance was feeling, but in a way she was. He has every right to how he feels towards her now. So why does she not want him to leave her alone?
"Allura, when we were in the park together near the tree, I told you that I would follow you across the universe if that meant helping you find a family. And I meant that."
No.
"I want you to be able to go out there and find where you belong."
No.
Quiznak, please no.
"But you'll have to do it without me."
And almost in an instant, the princess felt her heart stop beating. He was going to leave her and she knew he meant it. She stared at the red paladin as she watched him shrug and heard him release another empty chuckle.
"And I know what I said and how I said it. But like you said, things are different now. When you heard me say that, you probably thought I meant it in the romantic context I always use it in. But that's not true. I mean, at one point it would've been like that. But not anymore. Allura, I know what I'm going to say next might hurt you and it won't be something you want to hear. But I-" Lance swerved backward to face the princess once again, but his upcoming sentence was halted.
It was halted...by her lips.
The young Cuban felt his breath hitch in his throat as Allura pressed herself close to him, her lips already weaved into his as she clung to his jacket in attempt to keep him where she wanted. He knows that he should be cherishing such intimacy. But he wasn't that lovesick boy anymore. He was a young man who needed to figure things out for himself and already knew that this was something he didn't want.
He did not want to be kissed.
Not like this.
And not by her.
He didn't have time to think as he recoiled away from the princess' yearning mouth, covering his own with his hand as he gasped for air.
What the hell just happened?!
Allura stood confused, her hands still in the position from when she was gripping his jacket during the kiss. She had honestly thought she was finishing something that he wanted to start. She had thought he wanted this for so long. So why was he reacting like this?
I don't understand. Now he doesn't want to kiss me? I could've sworn he would like this.
"W-What?" she asked, gobsmacked at his reaction. She couldn't help but to slowly grow offended at him and the newfound confusion that continued to plague her once more. Lance continued to stand in front of her, mouth agape as he struggled to talk and could only tremble, Allura clenched her fists as she groaned in annoyance at the situation they were currently in.
"Quiznak, Lance! You have feelings for me, don't you?" Allura exclaimed, causing the scared young man's eyes to enlarge.
She knew?!
"Lance, for the longest time, I brushed your feelings to the side. Even when Lotor came onto the castle, I didn't heed your warnings about him and ignored your feelings until it was too late. I'm even ashamed to admit that before I learned the truth, Lotor and I...shared a moment. But then everything came out and he broke my heart. Betrayed my trust. Almost had us killed. And just when I thought everything was crumbling around me, you were there to pick me back up. And I guess somewhere down the line, I realized just how important of a place you make in my life." Allura finally finished, trying to catch her breath after releasing such a sincere confession.
The silence in the room was deafening as Lance had finally recovered from the shock of the kiss. He could feel his mind racing as he tried to absorb everything that Allura had told him. When he thought about coming clean to Allura, he wanted it to be a simple conversation where he had just let her down easy. Not necessarily confessing to everything he thought and felt, but just that he needed more time to himself and that he couldn't see himself having a romantic shift in this one-sided relationship. He didn't know there was going to be mentions of the past, desperate pleads, and an unwanted kiss. The red paladin was already struggling to hold himself together throughout this entire conversation, but the cracks were starting to make their way to the surface. And Allura's confession might be the blow that causes him to shatter.
"Allura, will you be honest with me?" Lance asked cautiously, trying to keep himself together. The princess nodded eagerly.
"Before the truth came out and you were with Lotor, did you know that I loved you?" Lance watched Allura's face carefully. He was hoping for the shocked look in her eyes. The quick shake of her head in disagreement. The disgust in her voice at the mention of his name. The denial of such a sad reality.
He was looking deep in her vibrant pupils for something.
Anything.
And then he found it:
Regret.
Lance felt his heart drop as he registered the grim expression on Allura's face. He couldn't not notice the way she bit her lip and moved to clasp her hands in front of her, her shoulders going in on themselves the way a turtle would hide in its shell. The answer was clear: Allura knew he was in love with her...and she still chose Lotor. In a way, he had already had a feeling she would choose the prince over him regardless if he had romantic interest in her. But that didn't stop the feeling of sadness and betrayal that he felt. In that moment, he started to wish that he had been consumed by the smoke. That his lungs would turn to molten rock so he could burn from the inside out, letting the fire inside make its way through him as he became nothing more than a pile of ashes.
Allura grew more anxious with each passing second as Lance stayed silent, seemingly processing the information. Just as she was about to ask if he was okay, the red paladin took his first steps. The Altean held her breath, awaiting to see what he was going to do with her, only to feel distraught as he walked around her, heading to the door. She turned around quickly as she attempted to grab onto his arm, getting him to stop.
"Lance! Please wait! I can exp-" She was unable to finish her sentence as Lance shrugged her off of him, keeping his gaze ahead of him as he walked out the door, not bothering to look back as the door closed behind him.
Allura stood frozen in place, her arm outstretched like she was still trying to grab onto something. She felt herself start to breathe heavily as her hand shook before she retracted her arm, her other hand holding it to her chest. She couldn't believe what she just did. What she just said. She used the last of her energy to call out for him, but nothing could come out.
No.
The Altean placed her hand over her mouth as she continued to tremble. She let out a shaky exhale before she dropped to her knees as she began to cry silently. All the anger, sadness, confusion, and regret flowed out of her with every tear that glided down her cheeks and every hiccup that erupted from her throat.
I lost him.
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Any sense of control Lance thought he had was lost as his feet carried him through the Garrison hallways. With his body on autopilot, he let himself get consumed with every single thought that plagued him.
It was over.
Things won't be the same between us again.
Allura kissed me.
And she broke me.
Lance could feel his lip begin to tremble at the last part. All this time since they fought Lotor. All that time since the Castle of Lions had been destroyed. All this time since they've returned to Earth, Allura knew that he had feelings for her. She knew how much he loved her and she chose Lotor. But of course she did. Who'd want to be with someone like him when she could be with Lotor, right. Hell, even he knew that.
I'm just a boy from Cuba, not a space prince like Lotor.
It didn't take long for the humiliation and embarrassment that he had tucked away for all this time to come back up to the surface. Every pick-up line, every single flirty one-liner, every single stare. All acknowledged in the worst way possible. He can remember every comment or look the team gave him while he was on his lovestruck crusade. And just that quickly, everything with Allura and Lotor playing back-to-back.
The way she gazed at him.
The way she talked to him.
The way he looked at her when she wasn't looking.
The way he'd subtly try to get closer to her.
Pidge and Hunk pointing out his jealousy.
The way they teased him.
The way they role-played Allura and Lotor falling in love.
How Allura and Lotor stood side-by-side.
The truth.
The betrayal.
The hurt in her eyes.
The look of desperation in his.
Her anger.
Her tears.
Her pain.
Her-
Whoosh
Lance jumped at the sound of his door closing behind him. That whole time he had been within himself, his feet carried him back to this room without issue. He turned his head back and forth as he took in his surroundings, making sure that this was really his room and not someone else's. Once he gave himself the confirmation of being in the right place, it was as if his mind instantly regained control of his body as his legs started to tremble and he started to breathe heavily and shakily. He heard and felt the strained and choked noises trying to make their way out of his mouth, so he decided to keep it shut.
He tried to steady himself as he walked towards his bed, aiming to lay there and forget that this whole day never happened. Before he could face plant into the mattress, his gaze shifted to the picture frame on his nightstand. Against his better judgement, his shaky hand reached out to pick up the frame. His lip quivered as he looked down at the photograph of him and Allura. The way his hands were shoved in his pockets awkwardly. The way she rested her head on his shoulder in pure content. The way she was utterly oblivious to the fact of how he was thinking of someone else just moments before and how that same someone is someone he never wanted to lose.
"You truly feel that way?"
"With all my heart."
Lance could barely make out his own voice as he took a sharp inhale and let the first sob emerge from his throat. He could no longer hold himself up as his legs caved in, causing him to drop the picture frame. His sobs continued to rack through his body as he backed himself up against the wall, pulling his knees into chest and covering his eyes with his hand. He was tired, so very tired. He was tired of the confusion. He was tired of the pain. And he was tired of the what-ifs. The red paladin released a heart-clenching scream before gritting his teeth, returning to his sobs and began the process of letting her go.
The last time he walked away from her, he felt relief.
But now, all he felt was pain.
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on one hand im happy that this means thereâs gonna be a lot of official content since the eps are supposedly so long that they gotta cut them in half.Â
youku has been pretty consistent with giving us a relatively good amount of official content. but on the other hand im always slightly concerned that by splitting up perfs, those whose perfs get aired first will have a competitive voting advantage since (as long as they do well) those kids will have a full extra day of persuading people to vote for them through their stage performance. Itâs not as huge of a deal as when other shows split performances across weeks, because a whole week ahead is a much bigger advantage than one day ahead. but every day can help those who need the votes. at least akey and zhan yu got aired today.... feels bad for jin fan because he really needs the votes.Â
also another down side is just this showâs eps are SO LONG theyâre eating up a ton of my free time LOOOL but thats how these shows always go for me... because I always end up taking like double the amount of time to watch an ep, just to pause, digest, rewatch sections that i like (sometimes multiple times), make sure i understand, etc. i feel like these shows always consume my life during the few months theyâre airing so iâll just enjoy it while I can HAH
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anyway ep 4 starting with singapore buddies huang junrong and sun yinghao speaking english with their singapore accents!!!!! lol can totally relate to yinghao tho, like when you cant read chinese you gotta find someone to translate for you
yang chaowen with dog!!!!! i wonder if the dog really likes him LOL they seem to appear together on camera often. akey with chen junhao!! and zuo linjie!! making friends!!!
lol i feel like the group leader choice method is some sort of extended advertisement for knock off apple products lol.........
HAHAHHAHAHAH LIN MOâS VIDEO STARTING OFF ALL FORMAL AND NERVOUS AND THEN XUE ENâS CUTS HIM WITH HIM BEING STUPID. I LOVE IT. thereâs two types of people. how did they not vote for xue en HAHAHAH
interesting that they picked the songs for the self-composition group ahead of time, rather than make them make the song as part of the competition (looks at produce camp... fireman is my jam but the east binhe road team ran into complications with that, so I can see why itâd be more risky to let them do that again) but lucky for zheng renyu and li chenxu tho! Iâm interested in hearing their music so i dont mind, just kinda wondering what the other kids who picked composition wouldâve brought to the table
oh theyre still giving yan an screen time... every time i see him im happy but then feel oof
oo zhanyuâs first stage look is just so nice oof xikan talking to lin mo but lin mo looks ded and is all eye patched up :(Â
LOL su er all jubilant over a sexy concept song - good luck with that
oooof this shot of jin fanâs perfect side angleÂ
aw akey being bested by shaopeng at every match... but im so excited to see what they can do together, theyre both so good at making music!!!! the resident music makers for each of their respective groups, tyger and coreone, theyre both so talented! def shaopeng has and deserves the credit but hopefully people will see akey contributed too bc im sure the two of them really led together, being the most experienced rappers hahaha
WHOA csp opening up to qu boyu and saying he has older step brother and sister who have a different mom from him and encouraging him to just be real when writing because there will be people out there who connect with his lyrics awww hes really taking this child under is wing and teaching him from zero, hes really like a big bro taking care of him and enjoying watching him grow. im glad csp is opening up and is self reflective enough to realize that he hasnt done so enough in the past and that he should involve himself more with the others.Â
im happy cui shaopeng got to feature in the bts clip for his group, he deserves it and hasnt gotten much screentime relative to his talent before. im happy akey got a little time and some recognition for his skills too. honestly just happy akey FINALLY got to do a rap stage..... wish we couldve gotten more huang enyu and huang junrong but im happy they got to show off their vocals!! for being young vocals in a rap performance, their stage presence were both really good too! cspâs entrance is epic wow.Â
wow this is the most hyper performance ive ever seeeen wow im so happy for akey because we know how long hes been waiting for a rap stage and wow cspâs leadership must be top notch to get this group to somehow be cohesive with such a not cohesive song LOL i respect that csp really respected akeyâs skill and let him shine too. akey was a second c if ive ever seen one lol. they both got to shine and so did everyone else in their group, which is telling of his leadership and why this stage turned out so well that even all the teachers like jackson were so hype LOLÂ
OOF shen bohuai and lin mo talking about how akeyâs lyrics are so moving like lin mo wanted to cry and bohuai felt like he could tell akeyâs been through a lot
lol xikan and bohuai being all tough and lin mo being like lol i feel the pressure. shaopeng smiling like a proud parent when boyu gets good comments c: oof rip akey and shaopengâs votes tho :cÂ
lin ranâs look tho LOL but zhan yuâs is so questionable?? why is he in this group ?? LOL but i guess its his turn to do something cutesy. mannnn why does zhan yu look like hes surrounded by children but hes not even that much older//?? hahahha ooooo is this the center zhan yu of legend?? ?hahahah yayyy hopefully more people will notice him! you know when i heard zhan yu was gonna be center, this was not the type of song i was imagining, but hey if it takes a cutesy happy song and a bunch of little kids around to get zhan yu a chance to be center, ill take it! i wish theyâd show us some practice footage?? im confused why there isnt any?? i think sun boranâs stage presence is good! zhan yuâs voice so powerful yess somehow he managed to show off different aspects of his vocal skills in this very plain song LOLÂ im surprised lin ran didnt stand out a lot but when they pointed out that he purposefully put himself in the back to protect his team members i think that makes sense bc he knows being cute isnât going to be able to win them as many votes but if the less popular kids in his group dont get votes, its a lot more devastating for them than for himself. lin ran didnt want this song and he didnt want to be cute but he really didnt want kids to suffer from choosing his group. lin ran has a cute image but i appreciate that this time we got to see a more serious side of him. isnt it ridiculous that theyve literally trashed zuo qibo and lin mo about being old but then literally i didnt realize until now sun yinghao is the oldest??? (he looks really young wow and so tiny aw) but also like they never bring up akey being old either?? some sort of weird bias going on... but i mean good for yinghao and akey lolÂ
but aw im glad theyre giving yinghao some attention... 10 years and starting off with jackson? oof...Â
ayy zhan yu getting the most votes!!Â
kou cong being older bro to zlj but also ultimate mentor to cxh aw yay for him getting some recognition from the judges and jin fan supporting him too heheh but it says a lot that he recognizes cxhâs efforts and wanted to put in his own effort to help him
i wonder if them giving zlj less audience votes is an elaborate scheme to get him more pity votes from the general public lol.... well im excited to see the rest of the stages tomorrow!Â
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and now we return to outlast 2, where-Â
THINGS KEEP GETTING SO, SO MUCH WORSE
(i have... a LOT im trying to process about this whole section sorry for upcoming text walls. really nasty #blood / #gore in here as well though) (i didnt realize i was This far behind on liveblogs lmao i drafted this. a while ago and didnt get back to it until now)Â
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so i fell off the bridge (shock. horror. who could have predicted this) and right into the scalled village
what.............happened to youÂ
fuCKING GO D
so it turns out âthe scalledâ are... some kind of leper colony banned from the town and left to fester and rot out here aloneÂ
most of them are just lying around suffering and dying, i dont know what the fuck happened to them, thereâs some mention of like. wildly untreated syphilis/potentially other stds theyâre being told is their curse for the sins theyâve committed but does.... syphilis do that to you. it might actually be leprosy i dont know i dont want to research this. all i can think about is when i watched jesus christ superstar in high school and the leper colony song where theyâre all crowding around jesus all trying to touch him REALLY freaked me out for a while
i mean its like. probably a combination of disease left horrifically untreated and massively infected given the absolutely appalling conditions these people are living in (everythingâs run down and full of blood and shit and who knows what else), starvation, who knows what theyâre even finding to eat out here so thatâs probably causing even more disease but still jesus christ
at first it just made me really sad, sure these people came from temple gate too so they were. fucked up cultists to begin with but a lot of this is like... result of longterm emotional and mental abuse and manipulation, some of these people might not have started out as depraved evil murderers, and like. nobody deserves to live like this. except knoth lmao throw him down here, but
so i thought maybe it would turn out that you realize theyâre human too, theyâre just in a fucking LOT of pain and maybe you canât do anything to help them (i dont think thereâs any hope for anyone down here at this point) but maybe theyâd turn out to be on my side and do something to help me fight back against the leader who abandoned them, âthe most absolutely fucked up looking people are actually the most humanâ kind of thing but uh. that is not how things went. at all,Â
ill get into How Fucking Bad this got in a second lmao but like
most of them dont really do anything to you other than bleed on you and beg you for help, some people lash out but thats like, understandable given the horrifying state theyâre in, but
as it turns out, being the âscalled messiahâ is a VERY bad thing, they went from occasionally lashing out at me to outright tracking me down to murder me to death which, like, honestly kind of disappointing
bc one of the things i liked the most about the first outlast was how many of the prisoners were clearly just victims too, some of them (lookin at you, naked twin guys,) were just evil and murderous but some of them were just very very mentally unwell (exacerbated by horrible living conditions and the fact that the people who were supposed to be protecting them and helping them recover were actively, intentionally working to make their symptoms worse) and couldnât really be blamed for acting violently toward you, but
then sometimes thereâs people who warn you about dangers ahead, people sitting in corners hiding and scared and wont hurt you unless you give them a reason to think you might be a threat, people just trying to stay alive, people who need helpÂ
but thatâs. not the case here, and thereâs definitely a particular kind of horror in âabsolutely no one in this hell town can be trusted, nobody will help me, everyone here wants to hurt me and every time i think ive made any kind of progress it gets so much worseâ (except that ONe guy who tried to protect me. im still sad about him) but. i dont know i feel like thereâs a missed opportunity here. im not sure if im supposed to feel like the scalled deserve to be like this because of the kind of people they were before, but i dont. i feel like the âwhat the fucking shit HAPPENED to these peopleâ horror is heightened by the realization that theyâre people, and just kinda using them as attack zombies is. missing something, somehow. i dont know, i cant figure out how to word what i want to say hereÂ
i mean its absolutely fucking horrifying, i was scared out of my mind going through all this, and i still gotta give props to a video game experience that left me legitimately feeling like i needed to go take a shower and crawl under a blanket for a whileÂ
i guess ultimately with outlast im coming here to be scared shitless more than anything else and boy did they ever fucking deliver
ok im gonna stop bc i will keep talking in circles about this forever if i dont, moving on
WHAT EVEN ARE THESE GUYS, APART FROM COMPLETELY TERRIBLE
im guessing theres some kind of... inbreeding birth defect situation going on here but i cant even process what im looking atÂ
that and its hard to look at them at all considering the only times i see them im getting murdered to death. my panicked screenshots hoping to get a better look later did not helpÂ
PRETTY SURE THEY JUST MADE HIM DRINK THEIR BLOOD,Â
how the fuck has my dude not thrown up like 90 times already. im glad he hasnt bc im bad emetophobia but outlast 1 did it so im honestly surprised that hasnt happened unless ive just forgotten it in the blur of nightmares im going through hereÂ
OH
THATâS... NOT GOOD
THAT IS REALLY, REALLY NOT GOOD
FUCK SHIT MOTHERFUCKING FUCK
i gotta say im impressed with how FAR they GO with this one, i have no idea how much game i have left but considering this isnt even the ending i am HORRIFIED to see what the fuck is gonna happen nextÂ
i mean outlast 1 has you getting your fucking fingers sliced off and whistleblower has. That Scene (even though like. it stops before waylon actually gets cut its REALLY CLOSE)Â Â
this whole time i kept thinking something would happen and theyâd get interrupted, Iâd escape somehow, they arenât really going to have the player character get literally fucking crucified from your own perspective,
but then the nails go inÂ
and youâve got one hand literally nailed to a cross
and then they start the other oneÂ
and i was like, WOW FUCK, THEY ACTUALLY DID IT, BUT NOW HEâLL ESCAPE... SOMEHOW.... RIGHT ???Â
but they lift it upÂ
and youâre hanging thereÂ
and for a second i legitimately thought it was gonna end there for him, i thought he was actually just going to die there and the game would continue with lynn or something (which, to be fair, would be a pretty cool twist, but i dont WANT blake to just die here like this)Â
ANYWAY!! FUCKING GOD, THAT SURE HAPPENEDÂ
but against all odds HE SOMEHOW DIDNT FUCKING DIE, and managed to find the strength to rIP HIS HANDS OUT OF THE NAILS AND FALL DOWN
i cannot fucking IMAGINE what that would feel like. i dont want to imagine it but i sure the fuck am nowÂ
i dont know if its possible to like. die from bleeding out in this scene if you dont find the bandages fast enough but it sure felt like i was going toÂ
fucking hell i can practically feel it in my real hands i HATE THIS i HATe it
god. fuck. im gonna be thinking about this scene for the rest of my life i didnt think anything would ever be worse than the finger slicing scene in outlast 1 but this. i think this wins
wHAT THE FUCK IS THAT!?!??? THERES SOMETHING CHASING ME IN THE SCHOOL FLASHBACKS NOW IM NOT EVEN SAFE HERE ANYMORE
WHAT *IS* THAT??!??
w OA h
i still have no IDEA whats going on with these flashbacks either, clearly his classmate hung herself and he feels subconsciously responsible for it because he didnât do anything to stop her (though it doesnât sound like he Could have done anything, and. they were kids), thereâs definitely some buried trauma he never dealt with thats resurfacing now but
i still dont think its just a manifestation of trauma, because like. the recordings are still coming out as fucked up static, if he was just having really intense hallucinations there wouldnât be any record on the camera, it would just be him filming nothing and talking to himself through a panic attack, it wouldnât be getting consistently corrupted ONLY during the flashbacks so what the fuck is happeningÂ
COLA
DRINK IT
i m losing it its the cola machines from the first game i diD NOT EXPECT THESE TO BE HEREÂ
what the fuck is christian saladÂ
you didnât think i would see this, outlast devs, you thought you could hide this on the menu board and i wouldnt notice. i did notice and i demand answers
NO!!!! THAT IS THE OPPOSITE OF OKAY THIS IS THE LEAST OKAY I HAVE EVER BEEN IN MY LIFEÂ
WELL!!!!! OKAY!!!! ALRIGHT!!!! NOW THAT IâVE BEEN LITERALLY FUCKING CRUCIFIED, FELL DOWN A HILL AND STRAIGHT INTO A FENCE OF BARBED WIRE, GOT DRAGGED OUT HERE AND BURIED ALIVE, CRAWLED MY WAY OUT OF MY OWN GRAVE AND NOW HAVE HOARDS OF DISEASED ZOMBIE NIGHTMARE CULTISTS SEARCHING FOR ME SO THEY CAN DEVOUR MY FLESH, LETâS GET GOING, SHALL WEÂ
THIS IS FINE!!! EVERYTHING IS FINE I CANT SEE SHIT AND THERES NOTHING BUT TREES AND BARBED WIRE EVERYWHERE AND NO INDICATIONS WHATSOEVER OF WHERE I NEED TO GO BUT ITâS F IN E IM DOING GREATÂ
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âNot everyone can be Russâ
So Iâm not really sure where to start a whole ass blog but since my rants are constantly triggered by random content I see, I'm gonna stick to what I know and not try to psych myself out and delay this blog further. So weâll jump right in. I have to shoutout Kato on the Track for always validating the things I think I'm learning on my own, and for packaging those lessons into words that make sense and that I can share with others. If youâre not familiar with Kato, Dame Mec, DJ Pain, Sound Advice, Music Entrepreneur Club and so many other local platforms/people of the sort, you really playin yourself,  PERIODT. These guys really care about layin it out for you in a meaningful way which takes a lot of work. so WATCH AND LISTEN. So, between yesterday and today, Kato posted a few short videos talking about the subjects we are about to explore. Until I can figure out how to attach said videos, go watch them on IG @katoproducer. The one posted today is titled âNot everyone can be Russâ and I feel that on SUCH a spiritual level. If youâre familiar with Russ at all, you can probably kinda guess what this is about. For those not familiar, Russ is a rapper/song writer/producer/author etc etc etc. who has gained some big recognition for his blueprint as an âindependentâ artist. I personally don't really listen to Russ or closely follow his career, however his relevance in the industry is undeniable. if you watch any interview with Russ, its clear he's garnered fame by figuring out how to be an independent powerhouse, more or less. (Admittedly, the technical âBUSINESSâ side of the industry is still something I lack a lot of knowledge in cause it involves politics that can be annoying, however I'm always tryna find people to teach me more things. If this is you, tap inwardly) But basically, the point Kato is trying to make is that its not necessarily better to be doing EVERYTHING yourself with zero out-sourcing/collaboration. We see this A LOT on applications for Tucson Hip Hop Festival (shoutout THHF fam I love you guys) It seems like young artists are quick to tell us about how they rap AND PRODUCER/WRITE/RECORD/ENGINEER all their own music in their closet. it seems to be a point made to try to impress, when really it can be a red flag. This might be just my opinion, however I have a lot of conversations about this with the mentors I keep close to me and they seem to share my sentiments. The problem with doing EVERYTHING yourself is that it can quickly create a âmaster of noneâ situation. The beautiful part of todays music industry is that the technology to do the basic things yourself and is mostly free and at your fingertips. Every kid with an iphone5 can make a rap song. This is one of the reasons that hip hip is one of the most popular genres in the world right now. With popularity comes intense levels of over-saturation. You have to focus your talents and efforts and TIME. If youâre a rapper SLASH producer, ask yourself which one you're more passionate about, which one would be devastating to leave behind? Now, this doesn't mean youâre forever disqualified from making beats in the future or trying your hand at rapping. I think a big factor in a hip hop career these days is TIMING. Take note that Russ released 11 albums and 87 singles CONSECUATIVELY AND FREE OF CHARGE before he really got meaningful recognition with Soundcloud. Not to mention the fact that producers and DJâs are more recognized and showcased as separate entities, locally and nationally. A big reason is the fact that social media made branding so easy and mostly free. Now, if youâre someone who just likes to experiment and create music and try your hand at rapping, DO NOT LET ME DISCOURAGE YOU. Everyones gotta figure things out, its important that youâre exploring and creating DESPITE everything. Consistency is key. Do not let me dictate your dreams. HOWEVER, if you're looking to take the next step and actually pursue a career, this is advice you may want to take to heart. It sounds counter-intuitive but the best way to gain success as an INDEPENDENT artist is COLLABORATION WITH YOUR PEERS. Another point Kato makes is how up-and-coming rappers are immediately trying to work with artists or entities 3-4 steps ahead of them. Theres many rappers who try to afford themselves the PRIVILEGE of skipping necessary steps in their career. Most notably the LOCAL step. I see so many rappers following this romanticized narrative of being an INDEPENDANT artist, fuck a label got it out the dirt do it all on my own yadda yadda, but are so quick to bash or dismiss their local scene that they have yet to even explore, all the while on social media spamming every single major record label and tagging every legendary rapper they can think of in every single irrelevant thing they post. I can't make any sense of that honestly. I CONSTANTLYYYYYYY have kids reaching out to me sayin they wanna legitimize their local scene, PUT ON for their city, put their state ON THE MAP, help build their community, PUSH THE CULTURE, be socially active and change lives etc etc etc. and have never been to a SINGLE local event (even as a supporter), can't name a SINGLE leader or influential person in their hip hop community or a SINGLE local rapper they admire(who aren't just one of their homies).  I LOVE that energy and passion. but without the KNOWLEDGE of what's going on around you, and the people laying down the roadwork for you, you look low-key disrespectful and very under informed. I mean, this is quite literally the bane of my existence. If you're involved in organizing shows or events or platforms on any level, you know how many people will hit you up to be on every single show/festival but HAVE not and WILL not ever attend or support otherwise. I'm sorry but there's no other way around it. I can speak for the whole state when I say that there are locally conscience artists that quite literally âput onâ for their community every weekend and have for years and years. if you message me on IG for coverage on my platform and we have 2 mutual friends, THATS A HUGE RED FLAG. There are many experienced and talented people around you who want nothing more than to provide opportunities and support to pass the torch to the next generation. Its okay to reach out for support and ask for help as long as youâre worthy of it. Dame Mec always says that if youâre reaching out to someone ASKING for something (no matter how small) you gotta make sure youâre working JUST as hard or ALMOST as hard as the people youâre reaching out to. âCLOUTâ does not exist if youâre actually worthy of the support, it just comes and it lasts longer. Building in your local scene can really boost the longevity of your career and helps you find âsuccessâ in unexpected places. And maybe iâm the one romanticizing now, but asking for something should not be your first contact with said person. Your local networking, knowledge and SUPPORT OF OTHERS should not come solely from YOUR OWN desire for success, wealth or influence. It should come from your utter love and uncompromising passion for HIP HOP and every avenue of culture that goes along with it. You should already be attending hip hop events and having hip hop experiences, not because you decide you're a rapper one day, but because its the thing you enjoy the most and absolutely cannot see your life without it. Sometimes I let myself get annoyed by the lack of knowledge and lack of willingness to learn that I see plaguing hip hop today and I always remember what one of my homies/mentors always says when I wanna talk shit; âtheir heart just isn't in itâ (Pike obvi) and that's just so damn true. If your heart isn't in it, everyone around you is gonna figure that out way before you do. Don't let your ego ruin your career before you even have one
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Riverdale 3.18 Thoughts *Spoilers*
First of all, I have not seen Riverdale in like a million years because it has just gotten so crazy and stupid and Iâm sick of Bughead and Hiram for some reason going after his daughter for one stupid thing and itâs just repetitive and boring. Like, I have watched SO many greater shows since I just stopped caring to watch, but I heard that Bughead will break up and Jeronica might become actual friends, and that Hiram is arrested, and shit like that, plus the first episode of the fourth season is a tribute to Luke so I feel obligated to catch up before then to watch it. Either way I hate not finishing a season, especially after watching it for two whole seasons now, so⌠enjoy my technically not-spoilers since itâs been out for awhile thoughts on this episode of Riverdale! P.S. Bare with me if I have forgotten anything since itâs been awhile.
- AWW NO I REMEMBER THIS THOUGH, POOR BABY TEETH :( He was such an adorable little shit he didnât deserve this.
- Oh yeah FP is the Sheriff⌠and Jughead is at a crime scene even though he should not be allowed there (Even if the gang is like⌠sheriffâs in training or whatever the fuck) Still not sure how I feel about FP, and I canât wait for my rightful queen Toni to rip the serpents from Jugheadâs cold dead hands (even though heâs obviously not dead)
- God damn Betty and Edgar again⌠she still bothers me. Does she realize that looking up his name might not get her anywhere because heâs not famous and therefore wonât have anything on him? I mean yeah maybe small town shit but like sheâs acting like twenty million pages of him and his cult should be on the web.
- He walked in the desert to die? Psh alright⌠sounds stupid as fuck. He acts like farming opened his eyes to how beautiful life is like⌠chill bruh itâs not that amazing. I mean, it is, but heâs making it out to be like this BIG BIG thing when itâs not⌠burying and watering seeds doesnât make you feel reborn.
- Betty had a point about it not telling her about how her mom can see Charles (even though I know heâs alive lolol we all knew)
- Oh yeah Archie got that one place from Hiram⌠but that dumb bitch asking how they can honor Baby Teeth as if he doesnât know that you could simply just⌠stay silent for a few minutes to mourn, or shit like that. But my boy Mad Dog can also dedicate his next match to him too lol
- Fucking Elio NOBODY LIKES HIM OR THE STORYLINES HE BRINGS. LIKE HIRAM.
- My baby Veronica!!! Love my queen. CHERYL!!!!!!!!!!!! MY OTHER QUEEN. FANGS MY WHITE COVERED BABY!!!! Poor Toni watching her gf be hypnotized by a fucking cult
- Oh good a horrible plan from Jughead that will probably induce Betty to do something stupid and awful and then pretend like she can do it because sheâs Betty Cooper⌠canât waitâŚ
- Like, they could have tried it out with Fangs/Kevin because they KNOW that Midge is dead.
- YES TONI GO AFTER BETTY FOR USING HER COUSIN. YOU FUCKING GO BABY
- Betty still has that video lol wow what a conniving bitch of a cousin she is. She said she deleted it, and theyâre trying to make it out to be a good thing that she lied about a videoâŚ
- Veronica my queen,,, I hate that they tie her to Elioâs annoying bitch ass.
- That body does not fucking look like Baby Teeth,,, anyways
- I mean a human could do that lol you just mean that they donât have a care for anyone. If this werenât human, they would be like burned from the inside or some insane shit like that⌠stop being dramatic doc
- What kind of crack⌠HE TAKES TWO SWINGS AT FP AND THEN STOPS SO FP CAN FUCKING HIT HIM LOLOLOL WOW
- Alice! I miss the old her, before the writers decided to try and destroy her. But lmao this news broadcast tho
- Still canât believe that they made out Betty and her fatherâs budding relationship a good thing. The fucking⌠WHAT? Why? How? Literally stop. Thank GOD Hiram or Penelope ends up murdering his assâŚ
- FP, THE SHERIFF, SHOULD NOT BE TALKING ABOUT THIS CRAZY SHIT TO HIS FIFTEEN YEAR OLD SON
- GOD I mean I get it, Cheryl needs to be brought back but that would be too convenient wouldnât itâŚÂ Iâm sorry itâs fabricated??? Omfg âhave you ever hugged Jason?â CHERYLâS PAUSE. SHE GOT TO HER FOR A SECOND GUHFADSBFKSFHAKSJ
- If this didnât work with Cheryl, this wonât work with Alice. But Betty doesnât communicate with people so she wouldnât know. Also, thereâs no date on it so like⌠sheâs bad at making Charlesâ gravestone look real. Like, I already know that sheâs undercover with the FBI with Charles bc yeah but like⌠why wouldnât they just loop Betty in? She could finally back off and stop getting into peopleâs business.
- AH THEREâS THE STUPID BETTY COOPER ACTION THAT IS NEVER NECESSARY TO ANYTHING!!! Fucking Betty, you chloroform your fucking mom???
- Archie basically calling himself Jughead⌠ew⌠Jughead could never
- I know itâs going to happen but I donât want Varchie to get back together.
- SHE EVEN FUCKING CUFFED HER TO THE BED OH MY FUCKING GOD send Betty to an actual psychiatric hospital far away, not only because then she wonât be in the fucked up town of Riverdale and actually get help, but because then the show could actually give other actors more screen time
- This literally seems like an evil villain showing the hero their backstory⌠also Alice gotta point she got the news job because of the farm. Betty we know you never think things through, just stop youâre soo fucking bad. Why does her crying for Bettyâs 8th grade graduation mean that sheâs not who she is now? That has NOTHING to do with her at the farm??????????? Why does she say âthat was the pastâ like it changes nothing why you acting like it does?
- Betty all of your points really are so traumatic for Alice. Like, yeah I get it you and Polly were raised there but she married a fucking murderer and yet this is all about you. I mean, it makes sense but they make Betty push it so hard that I root against her.
- If I were Alice, Iâd be so fucking horrified of my daughter. Like, she has done so much shit to her, and yeah Alice has done bad things too but at least sheâs being brainwashed (? bc sheâs undercover and not able to get out of her cover?) Betty should not be so okay with fucking chloroforming her own mother.
- Betty really acting like this is all on her huhâŚ. I mean literally bring other people into the plot itâs not that hard to actually make it interesting and share the screen time
- Ummmm alright. Also why would you let her take âGâ or whatever the fuck??? ALSO JUGHEAD WHY THE FLYING FUCK DONâT YOU TELL YOUR DAD THAT ITâS YOUR FUCKING MOM???
- Evelyn get the FUCK away from Toni. THE ICONIC LINEÂ âBitch, I love her.â fsjdkhfhaskjfdhsf
- MAD DOG!!! Of course Randy is taking drugs. I mean, thatâs cheating so just tell the news and get him disqualified and you win⌠easy. My boy is NOT taking drugs.
- JELLYBEAN!!!! AND RICKY!!!! I mean yeah theyâre both little shits but uhhh thatâs kinda sweet
- Lmao how did she start burning those pictures tho⌠I mean good for her but like⌠how?
- Betty⌠threatening to kill someone is NOT a good thing. Get some fucking help. Like, sheâs not even scary. Does no one remember how sweet she used to be? Iâd be so fucking concerned for her.
- Ew, kombucha? Cheryl, the farm doesnât need you for brewing kombucha lolol
- FANGS!!!!!!!!!!! But isnât he a part of the farm when did he get messed up into this boxing shit tho? DID HE EVEN KNOW BABY TEETH? I mean, yes baby get  screen time, but???
- Edgar saying that Betty is a good person⌠sksksksks since when? And of course sheâs afraid of her daughter, she literally doesnât care about anyone but herself or Jughead and that is not good. I mean poor Betty for having to hear that but Alice isnât wrong.
- Did⌠Did Betty not listen to those tapes at all? I know Edgar is a cult leader and therefore he tricks people into doing and saying what he wants but he never said SHIT to turn Alice against Betty. Bettyâs doing that all by herself. He literally said that Betty loved her⌠heâs right you have given her so many reasons to fear you.
- Betty knows that a therapist is to help people? Then why the FUCK doesnât she get an actual therapist? She desperately needs it.
- Edgar is actually pretty good with words tbh⌠but then again he kinda has to in order to be a cult leader
- So no one at the Farm is going to get her arrested for kidnapping? FP would have to arrest her lol but alright
- Varchie FRIENDSHIP is cute but I donât want them to get back together ugh I know it happens but NOOOOOOOO why does the CW always ruin everything good?
- LUKE!!! đđđđđ
- Evelyn really trying to make herself the most hated character by breaking up the best couple lol but Iâm so disgusted bc I know that Toni ends up actually wanting to be in the farm⌠if I remember correctlyâŚ
- I mean youâre not a MONSTER, Betty, but youâre an awful person.
- I donât like Kurtz but I really like the actor for him.
- PLEASE TELL ME MY BOY DIDNâT TAKE DRUGS. AWWW JOSIEEEEEEEE I miss her so much she and Archie deserved better.
- When Betty actually does the right thing (having a change of heart for the good) ssksks Iâm not used to Betty actually using her brain. It makes it worse that itâs only because of a cult leader but uhhhh
- THE REF SHOULD BE ABLE TO CALL THE DISQUALIFICATION??? Thatâs so cheating and that is so fuckedâŚ
- Also I love that Archie still has the fake serpent tattoo.
- LMAO FUCK YOU ELIO, EVEN DRUGS CANâT GET YOUR PEOPLE TO WIN. oh⌠of course heâs gonna fucking die.
- Ugh I forgot that The Gargoyle King was a thing. Itâs just so fucking stupidâŚ
- Poor JB,,, anyways go to your dad to help
#Riverdale#Riverdale 3.18 Thoughts#Veronica Lodge#Jughead Jones#Archie Andrews#Betty Cooper#anti-betty cooper#Falice#FP Jones#Alice Cooper#Jellybean Jones#Varchie
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The Doctor with a Thousand Faces
Art by Paul Hanley
When I say the words "Fourteenth Doctor," what springs to mind? Perhaps you may say "Peter Capaldi," if you want to get super technical. Or perhaps, you may be thinking about Jodie Whittakerâs future successor. And to that point, you may already have someone in mind. Whoever he, or she, or they may be, there are key traits that you tend to expect. The Doctor may look and dress different, but they must also possess a certain "Doctoryness," about them.
Doctor Who is unique. Very few live-action shows have the ability to change their lead actor while maintaining the same character. Sure, they did it on "Bewtiched," but it never became part of the narrative. You could argue that Twin Peaks achieves this with characters like Laura Palmer returning in the form of Madeline Ferguson and Carrie Page. Or even more recently, American Gods with Media and New Media. But what about before that? What about a time before foreign Gods came to America, or certain Time Lords came to British television? What if the undying hero is part of our fabric as a species?
Within its title, Doctor Who has dared its viewers to ponder the question- "Who is this mysterious stranger?" I would venture to say the answer lies somewhere within the culture of the era. Our concept for who the Doctor is, and what they represent has changed throughout the years. As we change as a culture, our expectations of the hero change. The new gods of our pop culture mythology are still fallible, and therefore, subject to change.
It's a fairly popular fan theory that every one of the Doctors is a response to his or her predecessor. And there are even real-world moments when you can see the showrunners course-correcting a bit of bad writing. The Sixth Doctor was so loathed within the higher ranks at the BBC, that the Seventh Doctor is clearly a conscious response. Where Six was brash, Seven was quiet. While Mel was a screamer, Ace was fierce and brooding. On an even deeper level, because Doctor Who is so unique, you can also apply these course corrections narratively.
The Doctor's incarnations act more as avatars of an overarching hero of great power and intelligence. It would seem as though every regeneration is an opportunity for the Doctor, and us as an audience to ponder the identity of the Doctor. Christianity has God the Father, Jesus the Son, and the Holy Spirit, all aspects of the same one God. What does each of them imply about the other? Is each Doctor informed by an overarching consciousness? Is every aspect made in its image, or is the Doctor the sum of their parts? After all, the Doctor is still alive. We are actively watching the Doctorâs lifetime, which as of yet, is still ongoing.
In the Hindu pantheon, we get gods like Vishnu and Shiva who also take up corporeal form as avatars on earth. Much like the Doctor, these avatars are usually direct responses to their predecessor. Take Vishnu, for example. Vishnu incarnates in several different eras, usually as a response to some great imbalance in the world. But often times, their personalities explore a different aspect of Vishnu overall. As the avatar Rama, he lived so lawfully that, depending on which version of the Ramayana you prefer, cost him the love of his life. In his next incarnation as Krishna, he corrects this by being more anarchic, more bohemian, and much more free-loving. On the other hand, he was also more authoritative, as compared to Rama's gentler nature.
You could compare these two characterisations to the Third and Fourth Doctors. The Third Doctor literally worked with the military while the Fourth Doctor flew in the face of the Brigadier, hanging his feet out of the Jeep like a petulant teenager. While both Doctors have the same authoritarian streak, they're usually found in opposite directions. The Third Doctor's officiousness melts away into warmth, while the Fourth Doctor's charm burns away with his fury. All the while, each of them demands we as viewers continue to ponder the nature of our terrifying friend.
Weâll spend the entirety of the show pondering that nature. Because, as I stated before, the Doctorâs life is ongoing. Much like Vishnu sustaining the universe, Shivaâs dance has not yet ended, Brahma has not yet awakened. The dance of life continues. We can live in the past or the future, but we can never escape the present. Each Doctor stares down the barrel of their own demise. Even we as an audience see each successive Doctor as temporary. Their days are numbered, and no matter how many times you change your hair, your wardrobe, your gender, we all fear the reaper. So we focus on the now, when weâre alive. We focus on our own unique challenges.
Every son of God, it would seem, has their own cross to bear. Each hero meets a greater burden that speaks to the culture of a time. As Jodie Whittaker's Doctor is yoked with the incumbrance of sexism, so too was Colin Baker yoked with censorship. Conservative backlash has often times landed Doctor Who in the hot seat. "The Trial of a Time Lord," is a story arc that directly addressed the real-world accusations of the show's violence. In "Rosa," the Doctor goes toe-to-toe with the embodiment of a nasty internet troll in the form of Krasko. Â
It's funny then, to view how this response to popular culture has changed throughout the years. Ben and Polly were practically Bible thumpers compared to the real world culture of hippies that were capturing the hearts and minds of people everywhere in the '60s. In their own way, they're a couple of squares that fly in the face of what was actually "cool," at the time. Even this goes against the mercurial trickster that was the First Doctor, who bit his thumb at your fuddy-duddy schoolmaster in the form of Ian Chesterton. Doctor Who of the '80s seemed like more of a "2000 AD" comic book world, which makes sense when you consider who was Prime Minister at the time.
Not only is the Doctor's personality explored throughout these incarnations, but the symbolism surrounding the Doctor as well. The name "Doctor," itself has been explored to some depth within the show. What does being a doctor mean to the Doctor? A doctor is a person who can bring us hope. They can also bring us dreadful news. Some of us don't like seeing the doctor because death seems to follow them around. The Doctor also carries a tool as opposed to a weapon. We're given the impression that the Doctor is a person who wants to fix things. Even psychic paper is a symbol for the Doctor's anarchic streak. "Badges? Badges? We don't need no stinking badges!" Psychic paper plays to that devilish side in all of us that wants backstage access and lies on our rĂŠsumĂŠ. Â The symbolism of the TARDIS has also changed over the years. Modern perceptions of the police may taint the image of a police box in the same way modern perceptions of America may taint the image of Captain America. However, I would like to think that both Cap and the Doctor represent the potential of what these things could become. The Doctor is what a good cop should be.
People say Doctor Who shouldn't be political, but from a historical standpoint, that's impossible. It's always had the same character, fighting for freedom from unjust capitalism, to totalitarianism, to unimaginable callousness. The Doctor has never asked what a person's sexuality was before saving their life because the Doctor is an actual hero. The Doctor doesn't have to agree with your lifestyle to agree that life is precious. What kind of Doctor would they be if they went around allowing someone to die? That's no kind of Doctor at all. This is why Doctors sometimes need people around to kick them in the ass when they're being total kumquats.
Whether we call them assistants, or companions, or friends, the Doctor's fellow travellers remain cyphers for the audience, though some more than others. While on the other hand, it would seem as though the Doctor represents something deeper, something more conceptual. Like a doctrine passed from leader to leader. "Never cowardly, never cruel." Keeping humans around to keep the leader in check. We the viewer have this abstraction of our greater self, playing companion to the strangeness that is this existence. We love these stories because theyâre our history, our world, and our trajectory. Past, present, and future. They're embedded in our religions and in our myths. So we keep the tradition of storytelling alive so that we might never forget these elements within ourselves. And to remember that no matter how bad things get, to appreciate being alive now.
Hello friends! For those of you who may be wondering, yes I have posted this article already. However, I wasn't completely happy with it, so I retooled it a bit. Sometimes you gotta do that! I've been up to rather a lot since we last talked. I went to see Andrew Cartmell speak in Leeds a few weeks ago, and that was great fun. He had so many wonderful insights into his era. We're still working on K9, but things have been a bit slow because of my pal's schedule. I've still got plans to write an Eighth Doctor article, but I decided to put it off for the time being. I'd like to go a little deeper into his audios and books now that I've finished his comics. I've also got articles planned for Doctor Who in video games, Doctor Who canon, and I might start doing profiles for villains I love.Speaking of profiles, I may also start interviewing some of my favourite Whovians. I know so many avid fans of the show with their own wonderful perspectives, that I wanted to incorporate them somehow! On the Twin Peaks front, I was thinking about sharing a series of comics I've been working on. Each comic explores a different theme in the show. I've also been toying with the idea of writing about other shows. Speaking of which, who all watched Good Omens? I loved it. What did you think?
#doctor who#vishnu#rama#krishna#bbc#tardis#Thirteenth Doctor#seventh doctor#sixth doctor#trial of a timelord#rosa#third doctor#fourth doctor
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RETURN OF THE RWBY MICKSTERECAPS-(Rwby Volume 6x01 âArgus Limitedâ spoilers)
HEY EVERYBLOODY-sorry Iâm a day late, went to a punk show and got home around 2 AM-EITHER WEITHER-letâs get to the show!
WE START OUT WITH-
A niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice and snowy landscape, *SIGH* so peaceful-BUT SUDDENLY-
0:28 First rule of Rwby, any scene that starts with a train is gonâ have SHIT GOINâ DOWN YO!
0:32 See that? Giant fluffy Manticore Grimm-BUT THAT FUCKER GETS SLASHED-
0:38 I love the smell of Grimm dust *SNIIIIIIIIIIIIIIFF* smells like victory-BUT THEN-
0:45 A WILD WEISS APPEARS-all smilinâ and KICKINâ ASS!
0:57 AND FINALLY-
BUMBLEBEE-fighting together with absolutely no awkward tension between the two of them at a-PFFT-HAHAHAHAHA-oh I couldnât say that with a straight face, but seriously theyâre in a better place than last season. ALSO-
1:05Â TEAM JNR-fashionably late as always, the sassy bitches.
Nora: WHY IS IT ALWAYS SOMETHING?!
Jaune: BECAUSE WE TRAVEL WITH MILO MURPHYâS ALCOHOLIC COUSIN!
And everybody just starst BLASTING THE SHIT OUT OF GRIMM-Ren sniping with knife guns, Jaune blocking with his shield, and Nora just doing her thing-ALSO-
1:17 FIRST RENORA MOMENT OF THE SEASON-at least ONE section of the shippers will be sated...although I DO find it weird how the two havenât kissed on screen yet, I mean like why not? They are UNDOUBTEDLY a couple now, what they tryna hide? Its kinda like how in a lot of Shonen manga when NO official couple kisses on screen, just odd to me.
Everythingâs going fine...well fine for battle standards-UNTIL-
1:24 Jaune: TUNNEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEL!
Damn Miles has some pipes.
Everybah starts RUNNINâ to the tunnel-BUT-
1:29
WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWeiss gets suckerblasted by one of the manticore Grimm-IS THIS HER END?!Â
NOPE-almost girlfriend to the rescue! AND THEN-
1:33 WHITEROSE COMBO MOVE-awesome.
WOO-that was one god damn minute and a half, like seriously! After that triumphant scene Iâm sure we wonât transition to something absolutely horrifyi-
2:23 Jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesus Adam, you do NOT take getting dumped lightly do you? Ah well, at least he has that expensive chai-
2:32 *SLASH*
DAMMIT ADAM-whatâd that chair ever do to you? Couldâve at least sold it at a Pawn shop, got a couple hundred Lien Iâm betting, absolutely wasteful, SHAME Adam-SHAME!Â
ATHENCUTTO-
2:44 THE TRAIN STATION FROM AVATAR THE LAST AIRBENDER-but in the fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuture! Nah it ainât, but it TOTALLY looks like that right?
Qrow than gives a shameless recap-I MEAN-reads his own letter that heâs sending to General Ironwood(he probably wrote it drunk so Iâm betting he was checking for spalling erors...donât you JODGE me) which he ends with-
3:43Â âSee you soon, broâ.
âDaaaaaaaaw!
BUT THEN-a wild Ruby appears, utterly excited that her trainâs coming up so she could get out of that god damned train station! I understand her antsyness, the wait can be a NIGHTMARE!
3:50
Well that hall way has enough space, Iâm sure Ruby can just saunter on over to the gift shop-
...or use her semblance and dash on over there like a crazy person. One of these days your gonna HIT someone young lady-GAH!
Team...RWBY...OJNR...Ruby OâJunior, yeah letâs go with that, then has a short moment of shooting the shit.
Heh, look at these two, fussing over gifts-PROTECT THESE SWEET BABY CHILDREN AT ALL COSTS!Â
ALSO-a random Nora Beach fantasy!
...that apparently leaked its way into reality. Oscar H. Pines, Nora is so thirsty to see Ren in a swimsuit she alters time and SPACE!
BUT-just when you thought everybody is completely happy about this-
4:31 WEISS-casually reminds everyone how hard it was for her to escape her abusive father, and how this is hard for her-CONTINUITY!
After Ruby than gives the obligatory pep-talk-WE ARE INTRODUCED TO-
-Dee and Dudley, two corrupt pro-huntsman who try to shake down Ruby OâJunior, one of whom is JUST 2 weeks from retirement.
They also condescendingly tell them theyâll give them extra protection if they pay them...did...did these idiots NOT watch the news?! THEYâRE PRACTICALLY A SUPERHERO TEAM!
AND NOW-the greatest Rwby Reaction pose of ALL time-
5:05
THIS right here, THIS is art.
Qrow than shows up and GIVES THEM THE BUSINESS! No-one tries to shake down HIS kids!Â
5:17
Look at Deeâs dumbfounded ass face after talking back, this is Qrow fucking BRANWEN mother fucker! Now go lock that gate that Adam sneaked into!
5:48 Oscar: Iâm sure glad its our job saving the world and not theirs.
Jaune: Yeah, now if ONLY one of us didnât hide a billion secrets from all of us because reasons.
Ozpin: Okay let me at him.
Oscar: YOU SIT IN YOUR SHAME OLD MAN!
After that, everyone in Team Ruby OâHara is READY to go, except for Blake which Weiss points out...in the best way possible-
5:55 Weiss: Just waiting for Blake, as usual.
HAHA-she abandoned her team for months on end.
A THEN CUT TO-
6:02 Blake saying good-bye to her almost-ex-girlfriend Ilia, and its just SWEET.
6:24 WHOA-thatâs a little forward Ili-
6:25 Ooooooooooh that was DIRTY Rooster Teeth, YOU KNOW WHAT YOU DID! DAH-but its still a cute good bye-ALSO-
6:55 BEST BOY SUN WUKONG-here to say good bye as well!
OH-and Neptuneâs here too. Hi Neptune, still living under that idiotic lady killer facade?
Neptune: OH...I didnât know Ilia was gonna be here.
Yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyup.
7:22 Blake: Wrong tree.
Sun: Yeah teaching him gaydar is one of many many MANY reasons I gotta rejoin my team.
The two than have a nice heart to heart about where theyâre going in life, Sun needs to go back to Vacuo to be with his team he LITERALLY abandoned, Blake needs to save the world from a Maleficent cosplayer, theyâre just passing ships in the night and it comes to a head...when Sun says this-
7:55 Sun:I GO WHERE IâM NEEDED...and...you donât need me anymore!
Blake:...well when you say it like that it sound sad.
Aw man, sad Blake ears.
Sun(paraphrased): Despite everything I had a lot of fun but-
-youâre with who youâre supposed to be with now.
Bumblebee shippers will interpret THAT how they want to and I. Do. Not. Blame. THEM!
Sun and Blake than finish off their good bye saying theyâll probably see it again(and by probably we know definitely because COME ON Michael Jones is one of the heavy hitters in Rooster Teeth). The good bye then ends-
-with a cute Blacksun peck on the cheek. Feel conflicted about which ship for Blake is better yet? If not, you havenât been watching this show so...what the hell are you reading this blog for? SHORT CUT TO-
8:49Â
Neptune: I dunno man, it feels like your just letting her go.
Says the guy who canât stick to one crush for more than five seconds. Notice how he didnât say hi to Weiss? Because sheâs logically MAD you blue haired Lothario!
AFTER THAT-thereâs THIS little scene:
Sun: Now that your leaderâs back and hardened from battle, Iâve gotta focus all of my time on getting you boys ready for the wastelands.
9:01
Neptune: *SIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGH*.
Anyone else think Neptuneâs sigh might mean something more than just annoyance? I know Sun said his team was okay with the small hiatus, but what if they werenât? Also maybe he was insulted by Sun implying that his team was just standing around without him, that while Sun was going on his adventure time standed still with them. Sunâs a good kid, and was mature enough to let Blake go once she got her real team back, but even to his own admittance heâs not the best leader. Just saying, food for thought.
A THEN CUT TO-
9:05 A nice snowy train where nothing bad is gonna happen. And INSIDE THE TRAIN-
-a totally not-suspicious looking Maz Napata from Star Wars meets old lady Katara from Legend of Korra who will TOTALLY not interact with the main cast...totally. BUT-enough about that-BEHOLD-
9:22 ALL of team Rwby sleeping in a bunkbed room like the good old days-HUZZAH! But all is not well AS THERE IS ALSO-
SUPER AWKWARD TENSION BETWEEN YANG AND BLAKE! But nah, Yang tells Blake that while things are weird and itâll take a while before things get back to normal, she glad she and her posse are back together which PROMPTS-
THIS cuteness, which Whiterose shippers will interpret how they will.
Either way its TIME TO PLAY VIDEO GAM-
*CRASH*
10:31
DAMN that was a tough crash, it made Qrow lose his usually iron grip on booze! A THEN CUT TO-
...the...beginning of the episode...yeah I donât know why they wrote the story like this either, I guess to start the season with a bang in showing how team RWBY is back in sync but I dunno.
But hey donât worry, DEE AND DUDLEY are on the case, and Iâm sure it TOTALLY doesnât matter that Dee is two weeks from retirement!
*GASP* I am truly shocked. You shall always be remembered Dee, as a creepy weirdo who tried shake down a bunch of highschoolers for money.
THEN fighting fighting fighting, AND THEN-Dundey remembers heâs a security officer in charge of a high tech train!
12:06
I show four pictures here to point out that that WHOLE sequence took less than a MINUTE! Its like WE GET IT Rooster Teeth, you have an animation budget now!Â
It also activated the turrets which take out ALL four of these Grimm, which Iâm SURE the boss Grimm wonât notic-
12:46 Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhit it noticed. It tells the lesser Grimm to attack the turrets and...oh god I found this by accident but it must be shared-
It landed-ASS FIRST! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
And as to be expected knocking out the turrets didnât JUST take out their defenses-
But ALSO-put the passengers in danger. Its like, use the turrets some Grimm die but theyâll attack the train more, DONâT use the turrets and theyâll attack anyway with less dead grimm, its a total catch 22!
Obviously bad-ass Qrow Branwen realizes and gets his TOP GUY TO STOP DUNDY-
...Oscar...desperate times I suppose.
Dundey like an idiot DOESNâT listen to the logical decision to turn off the glowing red fuck me spots for the Grimm to hit, and even MORE idiotically-
*CRACK* NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!
...decides to hang from the SIDE of a train going into a tunnel....instead of finding a way to duck...how many good Huntsmen/Huntresses did Salemâs unnamed faction kill, because I canât help thinking he and his late partner were scraped from the bottom of the barrel.
BACK in the train, everyoneâs as completely calm as they possibly could be.
14:19 Qrow: I SAID, turn those damn things OFF! *SLAM*
Seriously, in this situation Qrow is SUPER calm, Iâd wanna kick his ass too.
Ruby then ACTUALLY calmly asks the guy to turn off the turrets(sheâs got resolve of STEEL that one) AND THEY COME UP WITH A PLAN-to use a combo of Jauneâs Aura-booster powers and Renâs emotion mask powers to mask the train. A plan that Iâm sure will go off without ONE hit-
15:32 Oscar: Iâm afraid thereâs one complication.
Son of a god damned bitch Oz, I SWEAR TO GOD!
âThe Grimm are also attracted...to this.â
Logically team Rugby OâShaunnesy is as pissed at Oz as the fans for putting everyone in danger without telling them because heâs a mysterious wizard.
BUT-they gotta stay on task and kick Oscar in the nuts later, THEY MUST SAVE THE PYORPLES!
Sadly, they realize that they have to seperate the car with the passengers masked by Ren and Jaune, from the one with Team RWBY Qrow and a dumb old man in a childâs body. The two teams have to say good bye.
Jaune: Only if youâll promise youâll meet us there.
Ruby: Promise.
Weiss: Just know itâll probably take a LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG time for us to get there.
Qrow: I estimate about 12 to 14 epis-I MEAN days.
Team Bad-name-pun then SPRINGS INTO ACTION-getting all the passengers in the front car-
16:29
-including this one bespectacled passenger who will in no way affect the plot in any way no and forever QUIT ASKING ABOUT IT!
Blake then cuts the cable cars-BUT SEES-
GAH-stalker much? I canât believe Adam followed them-OR DID HE-
Is it actually Adam, or PTSD induced hallucination, FIND OUT NEXT EPISODE!
And whatâs cool about the next sequence is that it needed NO explanation, you get it obviously from what you see.
Rubes gets JUST enough of a signal from Nora-
-so the MOMENT the Grimm land-
17:02
âNOW!â
-they start the maneuver.
No real comment on here other than how I LOVE how the black and white color palette over-takes the colored train car.
And then BACK TO FIGHTING!
And dear GOD there are so many great Grimm-kills here, so many Iâd be here ALL day cutting and pasting every single one so Iâll just put the boss take down-STEP ONE-
Yang slides herself to the back-
-Blake THROWS it to Yang-
-AND YANG JUST PUNCHES THAT SHIT BACK-
-tying that greasy Grimm in PLACE-WHICH WEISS CONTINUES-
-with a classic âFreeze that fuckerâs wings off attackâ(with assistance from Ruby and Qrow of course for shattering said wings)-and then Uncle and Niece-
-get they scythes in gear-
-AND THEY SLASH THAT BITCH IN TWO! AND.THIS.IS.JUST.THE.FIRST.EPISODE!
BUT-the beast lets out ONE last fireball knocking them off track and....EVERYONE IS OKAY-incluuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuding-
-THIS LADY-whose name Iâve read is Maria Callavera! Turns out she WASNâT just a random side character, I couldnât tell with how HEAVILY lampshaded it was!
AND THATâS VOLUME 6 EP 1-a fantastic start to the season with AMAZING action and animation, and great story-progression. Minor criticism, I still feel they didnât need to do a âSomething hours earlierâ thing with the train battle, they couldâve easily done the story in sequential order and it would have worked just as well if not better. BUT-I still loved it and I hope you did to. If you liked what you read, consider donating to my Paypal on my blog page, Iâd appreciate it. SEE YA NEXT WEEK ON MICKSTERECAPS!
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its a wonderful life (2/?)
part 1 / part 3 / part 4 / part 5 / part 6 / part 7 / part 8
my friend and i started calling this fic âthe bad placeâ
(alternate universe, but like literally)
â-- High Leader was killed by a member of the White Fang--â
Illia frowned as looked up from her scroll, her attention swayed by the dissonant sound of chairs and tables being pushed aside. A handful of faunus hurried to the bar where a crowd was beginning to form, pushing their way up to the front. And when Illia leaned forward to see what all the fuss was about, she realized they were staring at the flickering holo-image of Adam Taurus.
Someone thankfully raised the volume up, and Illia managed to catch a sentence or two from the broadcast:
â-- Â lladonna, our High Leaderâs right hand, has also disappeared and is currently missing...â
The frantic murmuring of the crowd drowned out the rest.
âWhat the fuck?â Tukson pulled himself back into their shadowed corner, shock written all over his gaunt face. He shook himself out of his stupor, and tugged his hoodie down until it obscured his eyes. He turned to her, and whispered. âIllia?â
Illia didnât respond, staring glassy-eyed while holding on to the edge of their table with a deathâs grip.
âWe didnât do this. Did we?â Tukson looked around cautiously, pushing his chair closer towards hers. âIllia, what did she do?â
âIâm not sure,â she exhaled, meeting his gaze. âI donât know.â
âYouâre the one who got her message.â Tukson said, lowering his head as he whispered: âDid she do this?â
âI donât know,â Illia said. âBut sheâs missing.â
âNo. Donât say it. Donât even give me that look.â
âSheâs all alone. They might have already caught her.â
âThis is not the place or time, Illia.â
âWe canât just leave her here.â
Tukson sighed, running a hand over his face. âLook, I donât know what she told you, but we canât trust her. It may be a trap, you know how Taurusâ mind works. Heâs insane. Besides, if I donât get you back home in one piece, your wifeâs gonna kill me.â
Illia grinned, watching Tukson glare at her and paw the side of his face. Probably feeling phantom pains from the recently healed bruise he got a month ago.
âWhat makes you think she would wanna come with us?â
âIâm not sure, but this is our only chance to get her back. We have to try.â
âWell, donât expect a welcoming committee.â He said. âThereâs too much bad blood between us, kid. I say we let her go.â
Illia gritted her teeth. She wanted to say Tukson was wrong. She wanted to believe that Blake, the old Blake, was still in there somewhere.
She wanted to believe hard enough to say it out loud, but she knew Tuksonâs fears werenât unfounded.
For more than a decade, they watched Blake herself keep in the dark. Always behind him, always watching. Her solemn presence kept him safe. And once Adam took his battles to political floors instead of warzones, he placed Blake to the forefront of danger by having her fight his battles for him. Every time Blake appeared in videos of Red Fang propaganda across New Vale, ever since that fateful day, the girl she once loved disappeared until there was nothing familiar left behind.
The man surrounded Blake with death. Forging her in fire and blood until she broke and cracked under pressure. That, Illia supposed, was his first mistake. People didnât know Blake Belladonna was a double-edged sword.
That bastard probably didnât see her coming.
Illia stood up from her seat and threw a handful of lien on the table. She caught Tuksonâs eyes, gesturing him to follow her with a subtle jerk of her chin. âCome on. We gotta get back to the docks.â She said, pulling her cowl securely over her face. âThereâs no point continuing our mission now.â She didnât wait for his reply, and began to shoulder her way out of the swelling crowds, bodies trapping heat, the smell of sweat, tobacco, and alcohol.
Illia reached the pubâs exit longer than she would have liked, and upon opening the door, lhe world beyond them bowed in greeting like the wake of a new evening. The air felt heavy and electric. The hour before a storm. A world turned upside fucking down.
The Red Fangâs High Leader is dead.
Illia took a moment to compose herself despite her stomach turning, and squeezed through a gaggle of younger faunus who were all hurrying to the pub themselves. Soon, Tukson matched her swift gait, his voice shaking as he spoke.
âI doubt theyâll accept us coming back empty-handed.â He leaned over her shoulder, wearily looking around for signs of twitching ears, but they were in luck. People stood frozen in their tracks, crowding sidewalks with scroll lights illuminating their shocked faces. âThe Chief -- â
âNot now.â Illia bit back. She stuck to her casual gait, trying to look less agitated than she felt. Illia peered around the corners of her eyes and tugged her hood further down again, more for her comfort than anything.
They passed a pair of faunus sitting in front of a steaming ramen booth, hands over their mouths in disbelief; chopsticks held mid-air as they listened to the vendorâs radio.
â -- council is now wondering who is next in line from Adam Taurusâ succession-- â
Illia ducked away from view, slipping into an alleyway. She walked faster. âRight now, we need to get the message across. Call Reigen back from his post. Tomorrow night, weâre leaving.â
âIllia, the Chief wonât be happy about any of this.â
âOf course she will be. The Faunus war is over. Her daughter chose redemption. Thereâs nothing else in our way.â
âYouâre naive if you think thatâs true.â
They both shared a look, their faces grim.
All at once, their hopes to pursue peace soon revealed a bleak future unfolding before their eyes like hairline cracks on a pavement.
But there were so many possibilities now. Possibilities that were out of their reach only an hour ago.
âTukson, you go on ahead.â
Tukson opened his mouth as if to argue, but the look she sent him was stern and clear.
He closed his mouth, teeth clicking shut.
âTukson.â
âFine. Weâll talk more about this later.â
âIâll catch up with you guys.â She said. âI promise.â
âAnd where are you going?â He asked, despite knowing the answer himself.
Illia caught his eyes, but didnât bother to say anything else. Her skin shifted, and soon she was gone.
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