#like what does that MEAN gale
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i like the idea of rain romancing gale bc rain has an 8 intelligence so it's just going to be gale saying weird shit like "a lost soul spelunking through the darkness that is me" and rain's just going to stare at him
#like what does that MEAN gale#i was starting to get worried bc i hadn't gotten his weave scene yet but#a guide i looked at said you can get it at the tiefling party#and still be perfectly fine and on track for his romance#so i guess they did fix how fucked up his timeline used to be#i'm just gonna keep playing and keep his approval up and we'll see what happens#he hasn't died yet#so maybe if you get the protocol then you get the weave scene sooner#cause that's what happened with tav#anyway#i love a couple where one is very smart and the other is Stupit#rain didn't have time for books he was busy being the world's bestest serial killer or whatever he was doing before he got amnesia#fel's bg3#oc: rain
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UM NO WAIT HOLD ON
okay so patch 6 is now live and I was reading through what it changes and whatnot and i see THIS???? HELLO?2!;_(28&)3-"(28_
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#i have NOT fought the netherbrain yet nor have i even considered letting gale get his hands on the crown of karsus but this...#made me think about it for a second#probably wont do it tho lmao ill wait for a more evil/power hungry playthrough to do it 💀#bg3#baldurs gate 3#astarion#astarion ancunin#gale#gale dekarios#gale of waterdeep#karlach#karlach cliffgate#patch 6#patch six#also does avatar mean like an origin playthrough or what
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I like bloodweave. Okay. But I DON'T like the version of them in fanfic where Astarion is a dick and Gale is like. Whining and pleading for him to be emotionally vulnerable (or just. Nice to him) prior to the relationship being established. Because that is just not accurate. Gale needs the player to express interest in him during his weave-teaching scene before he even considers hitting on them properly. Gale is entirely resigned to his fate and needs someone else to pull him away from it. Gale only starts being sweet and romantic and devoted after you accept his love confession and give him hope for the future. Gale says fuck all and then slinks away to cry privately if you break up with him.
Like he isn't chasing after people lmao. He isn't dropping to his knees and crying about anything much less this dickhead he met a week ago. He is overwhelmingly passive about literally everything personal to him up to and including his own death (provided there are no casualties/there is a good reason) until after the player expresses that they care about him. Astarion is not doing that in any of these fics.
Like Gale is friendly and a dork and doesn't wanna get murdered but he fully has a suicide plan. He thought the artefacts would help him survive but he didn't believe he'd ever truly live again. If Gale confessed and Astarion said/did like one (1) mean thing afterward Gale's romance is closed off forever. He's wandering into the forest to cry. He's killing himself immediately. His fragile ego and self worth can't take it. You have to understand that when we joke about him being pathetic it's not bc he's like. Sopping wet and chasing people down and begging for a scrap of attention. It's because he craves affection but would literally rather die than ask or even hope for it until someone else forces that hope back into his serotonin-deficient tadpole brain.
#i feel like u can tell when a bloodweave fic is written by an astarion stan vs a gale stan lol#because the astarion stans are just using gale as a vessel for like. their sopping wet meow meow#who screams and cries until astarion becomes emotionally vulnerable with them#which gale would not do. realistic bloodweave is astarion tries to fuck him in act 1 and he refuses because of the orb#and then astarion is like “boo what the fuck. change of plans” and gale is like “okay” and they never speak of it again lol#anyway#please god the gale characterisation in this place. half of you make him the soppiest most pathetic loser and the other half make him evil#he's not ACTUALLY a loser. when i joke about it the reason its funny is because its not true#hes just a regular guy with depression lol. hes not out here debasing himself begging for some old twink to care abt him#bg3#gale dekarios#bloodweave#gale of waterdeep#does this make sense. i havent slept#i just mean that if you want gale to be sappy he needs to have like. prior assurance that his feelings are reciprocated#because if he doesnt have that and astarion is a dick to him he WILL just give up on the relationship#like hes not hunting people down after they deliberately upset him. i see so many fics where they create tension by lime#*like#having astarion openly fuck someone else after establishing a sort-of relationship with gale. for the drama#like hey. gale fully dumps you if you do that in game!! you have no way to convince him not to. he will dump astarion for that permanently
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I know absolutely no one asked for this but just because here's my Tav Vesa:
He does romance gale every time, just so you know 😚
#everyone says he looks like david bowie#what does that even mean#my tav#bg3 tav#bg3#bg3 gale#gale dekarios#gale of waterdeep#gale x tav
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Hurts hurts hurts me how other companions will be like "yeah you must choose one of us. Choose me though, the obvious choice. I love you."
And Astarion will be genuinely confused and surprised by Tav choosing him every time 🥺 his whole reaction is like "you chose me? But...WHY?"
#i did this wyll and gale and laezel so far#and astarion acts like tav is coming over to break up with him and then acts shocked when they say no i like you#also there is something exceedingly hilarious and meta about Halsin being the only 3rd person Astarion is cool w? lol#like no i dont want to share you w the others. but halsin. halsin looks like i can trust him. done.#this man does *not* think he is worthy of any kind of love at all and its killing me#its killing me amelia tyler was right#i do need therapy after this romance. not bc oh ho he so evil. but bc it's dragging me for being the same way#me being shocked pikachu face like what do u mean you like me? even though im not offering sex rn bc i have complicated history w it?
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i don't understand the urge to write hate think pieces about video game characters/their writing on here like at all
#NOT constructive criticism HATE#the wyll fans esp are critical geniuses#i mean actual mean spirited morally superior hate posts#like guess what guys: i used to dislike gale#and i just kept that shit to myself bc why would i come ruin everyone's fun why does it matter#then i spent more time w the character and engaging with him and it opened my eyes! love him now! it's chill#there r a couple things i do find triggering also... wyll's first kiss being locked behind a persuasion check#and really just the whole premise of astarion's first romantic encounter#but like ik that's a ME thing and it's not inherently evil and there are many ways to interpret etc#but yeah i just never kiss wyll that night#astarion i have more trouble with and im trying to headcanon my way out of it after avoiding his romance for awhile#i just personally can't deal with the idea of someone engaging in sex while dissociating/not being wholeheartedly engaged#now im rambling lol but yeah confessions#lush.talk
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Vague doodles of Gale and Mystra. I’ve been thinking a lot about what it might have been like back when it was good. I think maybe he loved her because he thought he could make her human
#I have a lot of feelings about Gale and Mystra actually#like I know it’s easy to reduce it down to ‘she was using him the whole tkme’ but I really do think it’s more complicated than that#like what does it mean to love a goddess and think that she might actually love you back yk?#what does it mean to think you’re making someone more human even if you say that’s not what you want#and most importantly: what happens when you realize that she#loves you like a shadow; not a mirror#uh anyway shoutout the writers for being brave enough to say ‘Gale gave great head to god’#bg3#gale of waterdeep#Gale bg3
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man people REALLY can't tell when larian is full on joking in their patch notes, huh? the gale thing was a legitimate bug and people are crying that they changed him as they did lae'zel. reading comprehension these days is abysmal.
I can't be surprised, though, because back when astarion's kiss animation was bugged, I saw discussions that it was "suspicious" that his kiss animation wasn't bugged for the default guy body, but was bugged for the default gal body. you know, as if larian somehow fucked up their own game's code on purpose, specifically to slight women who want to romance a canonically bisexual man that has flirtatious dialogue with the lady companions regardless of your tav's interest in him. totally checks out.
the complaints about changing lae'zel are entirely valid and I agree that her personality should not be toned down to appeal to the delicate sensibilities of the heterosexual man. I'm fairly certain that lae'zel's change was actually the only one that intentionally altered a companion's dialogue to be less abrasive. the alleged change to shart was also a bug fix, not an attempt to alter her character, if I remember correctly.
but by all means, let's accuse the devs of "ruining the game" every time they improve it. even better, let's all campaign for the addition of another romance! solely so that we can have sex with a popular NPC! rather than, oh I don't know, putting more pressure on them to add more material to the stories of wyll & karlach!
I swear, some people really do NOT know what it feels like to play a game where the devs truly and honestly are not listening to the playerbase...or where it takes literal YEARS for them to respond to even a fraction of the players' reasonable concerns & feedback.
#bg3#thoughts about media#no this does not mean the game is without fault and no this does not mean you cannot or should not criticise them.#let's not do that social media thing where we put words in people's mouths because we can't slow down and read their post properly.#the bg3 devs are Very receptive to community feedback compared to what I am used to.#and yet instead of the community banding together to press for much needed improvements to wyll & karlach's stories...#the majority complains about...misunderstandings on account of their own lack of reading comprehension....#...and the inability to actually have sex with raphael gort or dammon.#man I thought the whole “which NPC would you like to see as a possible romance?” was just a fun discussion question.#not “let's start a literal petition so we can have sex with a guy who's canonically terrible in bed.”#also wtf is wrong with the available options. wyll star gale and hal are all hot & cool.
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people on tiktok well on all social media sites actually will loudly critique the fact some people (especially those who only watched the movies) “didn’t get the point of the hunger games” and then turn around and say gale is the worst person in the universe and treat him like he’s a monster, and that all these traits are innate characteristics completely isolated from the circumstances in which he lived and the people around him. like girlie i think maybe YOU didn’t get the point here either.
#obviously this isn’t to say you need to or were “supposed to” like gale#there are a lot of good reasons to criticize him. esp wrt his sense of entitlement to katniss.#but he’s not supposed to be a Villain™️#like he’s a poor traumatized (brown coded) boy whose very valid anger was used to groom him into a perfect soldier.#kind of almost like it’s a critique on the militarization of young boys. esp those who are underprivileged.#which doesn’t excuse his actions & it doesn’t mean you have to like him#but it’s enraging when people act like he is a heartless monster who is unredeemable or whatever. like. oh that’s not….#bonus points if they babygirlify cato and clove (and marvel and glimmer) and cry about how they’re just kids#+ “they were only the way they are bc of the capitol 🥺”.#like yes it’s a big point that they were kids groomed to be child soldiers because the capitol pressured and “rewarded” career districts#to churn out child soldiers and whatnot. but that. ok.#truly just how do you hold the belief that to an extent excuses them or at least makes them sympathetic—#—but then not extend that empathy to gale. side eye.#esp bc a lot of the stuff is taking potshots at gale to uplift peeta/everlark.#like. uh! okay!#obligatory disclaimer i don’t actually like gale. however i am at my limit on weird and bad and inconsistent takes on him.#yeah he sucks. almost like that’s because he was horrifically oppressed by the captiol + then was groomed to be the ideal soldier by coin.#crazy how that’s the point.#and AGAIN. doesn’t EXCUSE what he does. but it’s important to acknowledge bc it v much contextualizes who and what he is and does.#the hunger games#gale hawthorne#i don’t think i need to tag this in the anti tag but lmk
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My personal hot take for BG3 is that I see the appeal that Astarion has but personally he’s far too mean for me to get into him and the fan base surrounding him makes turns me off from him so much.
#I could go into detail#about how a lot of a station fans#put gal and wyll characteristics#onto Astarion#just because they like that he’s their sexy little vampire bf#but I won’t#I just can’t get into him#especially when I have to be mean#and evil#much prefer just going through his story#as a friend#but more power to everyone else I guess#also side not#I saw earlier this morning about how people call Gale#an abuser and manipulator and narcissist#but then sign praises for Astarion who manipulated Tav#but also become an abuser and narcissist when you let him ascend#(which btw a lot of people like and romanticize the abusive relationship)#(he has with tab after that)#anyway#what do I know#I haven’t even finished the game#I love Gale and Wyll tho#I like Astarion too#does this count as#fandom discourse#probably#but it’s honestly my opinion#that means nothing to anyone else#and shouldn’t mean anything to anyone else
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"that sounds tediously boring"
gnome beat the game
here they are on the boat
#SPOILERS BELOW !!!!!!#they are so precious to me i dont know what i would do without them#ive been insanely emotional about them since last night#i wish you could see how the other characters are doing before the credits#thats my one gripe i wanna know what shadowhearts up to#SHOW ME THE CELEBRATION YALL KEEP TALKING ABOUT !!!!#i want to see them happy and hanging out and smiling :(((#also im sure theres some way to avoid this but karlach does live in their basement and they do feed her brains#all in all its a pretty good set up#shes not gonna explode any time soon and theyre all roommates#could be worse#i do mean she volunteered to turn illithid btw and from where i was standing that looked like the best option#she looks a little weird now but thats still my Best Friend karlach#im sure lae'zel will visit on holidays....#shes like the cool aunt you only see for family reunions i think#ALSO HEY LARIAN ? I ROMANCED THE FUCK OUT OF HALSIN !!!! I SHOULD GET AN EPILOGUE SCENE WITH HIM TOO !!!!!!!#i shouldve brought him with me but gale...... the carefully crafted narrative that lives only in my head........#baldurs gate 3#bg3#bg3 astarion#astarion#astarion fanart#astarion x tav#astarion ancunin#bg3 tav#my art
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"Hshar'lak"
Its been years since I loved an OC as much as I love Iss'tav'in but I am obsessed with this wizard loving githyanki cinnamon roll.
He just wants to go kill Vlaakith however he would never leave Gale so instead they live quietly in Waterdeep.
Although honestly I think his actual ending will be Elysium with a cocky God of Ambition.
#bg3 tav#my tav#bg3 fanart#bg3#hes a cleric of lathander these days#also does anyone else think its messed up#that as a githyanki#if you go with Lae'zel#you effectivly dump your other LI?#like what do you mean i cant put Gale on my dragon?#Larian what do you mean?!#i just want to take him with me to kill Vlaakith#iss'tav'in
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Dude I know I'm deep into my Gale obsession when seeing people's dumbshit takes actually makes me angry. Someone on instagram called him easy and a gold digger??? How do you live with yourself.
#had to turn off my phone and sit with my thoughts for a sec after that one#like what the FUCK do you mean#I just don't understand how people think GALE is the 'sleazy' one. and they're always the Astarion simps lol#like Gale. a fuckboy. GALE. who is so fucking dedicated and loving and poetic and straightforward#compared to Astarion who ACTIVELY. CANONICALLY. USES SEX TO MANIPULATE THE PLAYER. and he has his reasons for that#but between the two you're saying GALE is sleazy???#or easy? when the only way to trigger his romance is if you initiate in the weave scene and reciprocate his flirting in the shadow curse#like he straight does not come on to you at all. if you heard the narrator say the moment is intimate and them imagined a “romantic walk” or#“kissing him passionately” and thought that was the platonic route then buddy it is definitely you with A Problem not him#anyway#bg3#gale dekarios#baldur's gate 3#baldurs gate 3#gale of waterdeep#baldur's gate#baldurs gate
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sorry i have vampire the masquerade brain worms u can ignore this.
astarion is Obviously ventrue and as someone who grew up in a banite church i feel like xarrai should Also be ventrue but i feel like it would be insane to make them anything but toreador. but then i thought. maybe they are both ventrue trying to come off as toreador. absolutely the funniest shit on earth to imagine two different ventrue trying very hard to make everyone think they’re toreadors for two different reasons. LOL yep definitely here in the pursuit of beauty don’t mind me… :)
#anyway i want astarion to diablerize cazador :)#i mean that’s more or less what he does in the ascendant ending but i want it vtm style#also: gale is tremere karlach is brujah shadowheart is la sombra#lae’zel is… maybe also brujah?#halsin is gangrel….#honestly halsin is probably just not kindred but gangrel halsin is fun to think abt#i have to think about wyll actually#tho i’m tempted to say toreador for no reason other than they are my favorite and it does suit his romantic streak….#could also kinda see ventrue wyll?#i haven’t seen enough minthara to diagnose her with a clan LOL#withers is nos lmao#feel free to tell me if i’m wrong tgese are like all off the cuff and i’m a filthy vtmb fan to my core so like. my wider knowledge is a#little limited#OH HM MALKAVIAN XARRAI WOULD WORK…#one of those malks u look at and think “’but ur like fine?’ until they r Not#titus reed vibes if anyone listened to port saga (i haven’t listened to season 2 yet lol)
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today's wordcount brought to you by: there is no way on this green earth that Gale Dekarios doesn't have a good relationship with his mother, and i'm going to write nice cozy friends-and-family fic about it
#bg3#gale of waterdeep#anyway i have Thoughts about Gale that have me chewing the drywall#so for now i'm just writing fluff about Gale and family and coming home with friends#like you KNOW Gale's mom was worried about her son being lonely. nerd magic protegee who hangs out with:#Mystra the Goddess of Magic; Elminster; Tara#like that's Gale's entire social network#you KNOW what his mom wanted was just for him to have friends. just friends not Forces of Nature just friends#and he never really had those because he was being a Big Cool Wizard from the age of like six#so anyway Gale comes home with his friends and his mom goes full Mean Girls Mom mode#she's just so excited her son has friends but she's also trying to be chill#one's a vampire? chill what kind of blood does he want#one's a warlock? okay; that's new but rolling with it#like Gale could bring home three goblins but if they didn't hurt him and he called them friends his mom would make it work#anyway this consumed my thoughts for like three hours today so yes i'm writing fanfic about it#Gale has a good relationship with his mom and you can't change my mind
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I think I’d always seen it as “revali was created as a rival for link” but reading the actual words in creating a champion, he was created “as a rival to link”. (Someone who won’t easily like Link like everyone else, etc) So it’s more like Revali sees them as rivals, but we don’t know what Link thinks. I mean, I guess it was obvious that way but I guess I’d been hoping for “word of god” that revali is something special 😞
#pixi fandom post#re loz#another thing that I found amusing is that they had pics of revali blinking sideways like a bird#that was probably scrapped because he blinks normal like a human in the cutscenes.#And Another Thing#revali is a leftie#like hell yeah#what does that mean?#it means nothing#I just think Being A Leftie is a fun character trait#kinda miss Link being a leftie 😔#oh also I find it… not weird or strange per say#but revali shoots using his hand wing fingers#while Teba shoots with his talons like the book says most rito do#which I attribute to revali having his gale so his arms are free to shoot#but I wonder if it’s more accurate for him that way or not#okay this tag essay has gone on long enough
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