#like we got fake landons in s3?

[handonhaven]

It’s so ironic how they had Landon telling Hope that people come to limbo to learn a lesson, not repeat the same mistakes, and then they had them repeat the same mistakes not long after?

They’d confirmed that Hope killing Landon was her biggest regret and that she could’ve chosen differently, but then they had her repeating the same mistake in limbo by not choosing Landon again and leaving him trapped there instead. And not even doing anything to help him afterwards. And Landon always letting himself be sacrificed never helped things either, and Raf talked to him about that in 3x01, but then they had him let himself be sacrificed and left behind again.

Despite the fact that Hope and Landon had believed they could fight fate, the writers had them both giving in to fate in 4x04, which caused a big mess that led to them ending up in limbo in the first place. But no lesson is learned from that, instead they have them repeat the same mistake by giving in to fate again in limbo. They literally had a perfect opportunity with Hope too, after she’d seen the vision of herself making a different and better choice, to have her find another way and not do what the universe demands. But none of that ending up meaning anything because they instead just had her not make a different choice or find another way but do what the universe demands once again.

They completely contradicted what they said the point of limbo was. (And on a side note, they even had Seylah repeating the same mistake of abandoning Landon again in limbo as well.) It’s almost as if repeating the same mistakes and not learning a lesson was the requirement in limbo, not the other way around. Really and truly, nothing was learned or accomplished in the end, and Handon in season 4 will never be the real Handon to me.

[winnie-the-monster]

The originals s5

Legacies s1

Season 2

Season 3

Season 4

[rhaenizziettie]

Legacies 1x04 Rewatch:

Just seeing all the comic book decor in MG's room makes me so sad that we never got to see him and Landon geek out together

The amount of (lame) TVD cameos in S1 was wild considering they did not keep that energy up

If I had a nickel for every time the Salvatore School made a fake exchange program with Mystic Falls High over a murder, I'd have two nickels which isn't a lot but it's weird that it's happened twice

"Who are you and what did you do with Hope Mikaelson?" Just you wait ...

The blatant use of TVD scenes for the exterior shots of MFHS and they couldn't even match the green filter of Legacies

Lizdon best friendism!!!

"Try not to deliberately alienate the entire student body." "I tried to be her friend when I was five and when I was nine and when I was thirteen." "I'm sorry we couldn't see why you were hurting back then." SCREAMING.

"Would you like to be the Robin to my Batwoman?" "Batwoman doesn't have a Robin." "Metaphor." FOR LESBIANISM.

"I'm working on offensive spells." Maybe we should've known she was blood thirsty from the start

Rosie and Finsie both have a breakfast scene BUT NOT JANDON OR POSIE. WHAT DID I DO TO DESERVE THIS?

No because how did Josie have Raf so wrapped around her finger and still manage to come up with a fake sob story about Lizzie winning him

Baby Handon, my beloveds

Hope 🤝 Lizzie 🤝 Accusing MG of failing at compulsion

Lizzie being so grossed out by MG's unrelenting advances and him STILL not getting the message. Oh I hate what this rewatch is doing to my best boy.

"Dana is dead." Oh no ... what are we gonna do ...

"I expect you to be with Hope when I do" hits so much harder knowing about 4x06

"You are a horrible liar." "I suck at lying." Okay Lizzie I see you

We were robbed of Cheerleader!Hope, even in an AU

I still need someone to edit "They're a gift from Cheryl" into a Hope Mikaelson x Cheryl Blossom edit

"Relax, Eeyore." Hope, your Lizzie is popping out.

"I don't even like any of you" but we all know who she's best friends with in the Human AU

Jed truly was terrible in the beginning. Like who is that? I don't know him. Bully!Jed isn't real unless you believe in him.

"I'm a feminist." You're a liar is what you are actually.

I really do miss S3 actual feminist MG. Bring him back to me already.

The casual Dana E.D. jokes were ... certainly a choice for a 2019 show ...

The Kaleb x Landon dynamic deserved more

"Years of practice with Lizzie" and we never once get to see it. Like??

"You're dead if you don't submit." I'm sorry but like has a werewolf student ever actually been murdered for not joining the pack? I feel like we would've heard about that.

"It's Sasha." Was Sasha even at the flag football game? How do they know her?

BASES IT OFF OF GREEK LORE. OH THE GREEK GODS SET UP WAS THERE. IT WAS THERE.

"My money's on your boyfriend." "He's not my boyfriend." She just wanted to hear you say it, sweetie.

"Whatever spun this is gonna come back and eat us." We couldn't be that lucky. Imagine how much better the series would have been.

I still ship Connor x Josie. I don't care.

Landon rushing in to save Josie. Oh Jandon serves whether you want to admit it or not.

The S1 Core 6 did not get enough scenes together

THE MOMENT IT ALL CHANGED FOR LIZZIE. OH GOD OH GOD. HOLD ON TIGHT.

THINGS ARE SHIFTING.

"I'm a twin. I don't do anything solo." You just spent the entire episode without Lizzie because being a hero is too much pressure??? You spent the whole last episode apart from her too???? It's only the fourth episode?????

It's almost laughable how much Josie lies. Like every other word out of her mouth is straight up false and she knows it.

Still think Jed x Rafael should have had a thing.

I miss this Handon angst. THIS. THIS IS THE GOOD STUFF. Not the circular conflict they got stuck in later.

"Being a hero is not more important than being safe." This is your suicidal daughter, my dude. She does not care about being safe.

"She thinks she's too good to give you the time of day." Actually it's

"Don't disrespect her like that. We got enough monsters out here as it is. We cannot become one of them." MG YOU DIDN'T DIE THE HERO. YOU LIVED LONG ENOUGH TO BECOME THE VILLAIN. GOD DAMN IT.

Wait a minute. Josie was stuck in a spider web, almost dying, and Landon saved the day instead of Penelope Park making an appearance? Penelope would have never.

"If you threaten my kids, Sheriff, I'll be the one coming for you." No, maybe I get it. Maybe I do still get the attraction.

[landonkirbyappreciation]

Spoiler alert....

So what we did get of Landon this episode I liked. He was smart enough to figure out why some people couldn't cross over bc they have unfinished business(I wonder what Landon is? Watch it be about Hope). And he ended up helping Ted be able to cross over to peace without even meaning too. Which somehow got him and Ted a coin. But I figure he won't go bc of Alaric and what he tells him about Hope and how he died.

And that trailer for the next episode really just confirmed that Landon is Hopes humanity. I'm taking this as such a win for us Handons. Because the first thing they thought to do to get through Hopes humanity was Landon. I have this theory that they might try and use therapy box(that stupid box they can't seem to get rid of). Or they'll try to use that Ring and try to pretend to Landon. And if that's the case it's gonna end so badly for them. Because none of them(other than Hope that is) knows Landon well enough(or at all) to pretend to be him. Hope will see right through that.

I can't believe I have to wait 2 weeks to see what happens next with that and hopefully what's going on with Landon in limbo

I always love seeing Landon but my gosh, at what point are we ever gonna see anything that’s actually about Landon? And not have it be about any of the other characters, but just himself? Nothing is ever actually about Landon as his own individual character anymore, every time he’s on screen it becomes about somebody else. We went a whole season without him, now he’s stuck where there’s finally the chance to spend time on him and what happened to him and they manage to make it about some other random character that we’re never gonna see again. And now the next character in line to take over Landon’s screen time and storyline is Alaric. Sorry to be negative, I’m just so tired. They can’t even show how traumatized Landon should be or anything. But yeah, I did like how he was able to figure things out. I love how that one guy was there for how many years and couldn’t figure out what Landon did in like 2 minutes. 😂 Although I’m still bugged with them messing with canon by having the whole coin thing. We’ve seen many characters find peace before, they just go to peace, they don’t have to get a coin and pay a ferryman to go there... 🙄 But I also wonder what Landon’s unfinished business is, but you’re probably right, it’s most likely gonna be about Hope. I was honestly wondering if he was gonna have to maybe process or come to terms with what happened to him in s3 and what he went through and whatever he had to do to survive. Like maybe if he’s been blocking out how it’s affected him or something, because then we’d finally get to see something about his s3 storyline but nope. Now it’s all gonna be about helping Hope, which I want to see as well, but wish they would also take the time to address what Landon just went through. But yeah, I’m sure that Landon won’t go to peace now once Alaric tells him what happened. Landon probably doesn’t even know it’s possible for him to go back, but I’m sure they’ll somehow find a way.

And yess of course, and we all knew Landon is the key to Hope’s humanity! And I’m so glad they’re gonna acknowledge it in the show! But the squad making Hope see Landon is so surprising to me. Because I honestly have such a hard time believing that any of them are gonna be willing to admit that Landon is the way to get to Hope. Since it seems they can never bring themselves to acknowledge that Landon has any value or importance. And have obviously wanted him dead and out of Hope’s life so I’m very curious how that will happen. And you’re probably right, they might use the therapy box that they rely on for everything, or the ring seems likely too. But right? If they use the ring and someone tries to pretend to be Landon, Hope is gonna be pissed. Especially after she was tricked with a fake Landon last season? Hope is not gonna believe it’s really him after what happened in s3, and you’re right, none of them would be able to pull it off anyway. So I’m hoping it’s not gonna end well tbh.

Yeah I guess we’ve got 2 weeks to wait, hopefully it’ll go by fast. And I hope we see what’s happening with Landon in limbo too, I just hope it’ll actually be about Landon at some point. It’s very frustrating to watch and they never answer anything.

[alltid-og-for-evig]

After having binged all of s3 I have to say, it feels very much like s2 of tvd.

Cause like, season two only gets interesting (for me) when Klaus actually shows up and starts doing the stuff to break his curse. Everything before it is basically just learning about Katherine, her history, about the Mikaelsons, how they work, about the "Sun and Moon Curse", about werewolves and Tyler activating his curse. . . Its just a lot of information that once you know it, doesn't feel like much is actually happening.

And its the same with s3 of Legacies.

Because for some reason they didn't want to tell a story about Hope dealing with grief or Landon fighting to get back to her, instead they gave us. . . I don't want to say shock value. Click bait?

Cause the way things happen is like (3x04) Landon's goo! Keep watching to find out what happened to him. (3x05) Landon's in the prison world! Keep watching to find out how he gets himself home. (3x08) Landon's back! But so is this mysterious bone warrior! Keep watching to find out who he is. (3x12) He was a fake but the Bone Warrior was Landon! Keep watching to find out what happened to him in the prison world. (3x16) He's actually Malivore! K-

You know?

And sure, we get the finsie romance, and Cleo, and MG's arc becoming a "super hero", but nothing really happens after you know the answers to those click bait twists. It's like we got a whole season of cliff-hangers with no actual meat, no plot, no story.

[handonhaven]

Hey handon heaven - So I know you don't wanna see hope with anybody else but Landon right, But how would you feel if both hope & Landon got a new love instrest for a while??. Personally I would be hurting but maybe I would get over it, but having hope explore a new relationship & dynamic at least for a while would you like that to happen??.. I know as a handon Stan me or everybody else in the nation wouldn't say we're bored with handon but ppl who hate on them are bored( and obviously we don't care🥱) but maybe Dani might be bored too and wanna try a new relationship dynamic??. I mean hope and Landon have been dating for 3 seasons now they haven't broken up but they have been Separated for a long while tho and while they were separated in s3 hope did kinda still have Landon you know the fake one🙄 thinking it was the real one then you have mali while Landon on the other hand we don't know shit that as happen with him in season 3 so no growth never really happened in there relationship.. They have both grown alot and been through a lot so I don't expect there relationship to be the same after Landon's return and I wanna see the growth in there relationship & we can't see it if there not interacting.

And tbh am sensing a handon break up after he returns with you know hopes humanity being on and it's gonna hit like a bus hope wanting to push people away again etc + her mental and emotional health after the switch is on, so I feel there's gonna be a breakup so more torture for us.

Idk what am saying this don't make no sense!!!😭

Hey! No, I don’t wanna see Hope or Landon with a new love interest, but that’s cool if you do! I just don’t think it would make any sense for either of them at this point. They’ve proven time and time again that they just wanna be with each other, and even after all they’ve been through, that hasn’t changed. I know plenty of people find Handon boring, idc. Maybe Danielle would wanna explore another relationship, but she still likes Handon too, and it’s up to the writers in the end. And Handon being together makes the most sense for the characters and the story. And the fact that they’ve been together for 3 seasons and have never broken up and haven’t wanted to be with anyone else besides each other says a whole lot. That’s why, at this point in the show, it wouldn’t make sense for them to be with other people. And their relationship has had a lot of development over the course of the show. Last season was very much about Hope’s love for Landon and her fighting for him, and Landon fought to survive and get back to her last season too (and I’ll be forever mad and confused about why they didn’t show Landon’s storyline, but it still happened). So even while they’ve been apart, their love for each other has become more solidified imo. And I’m sure their relationship will be different when they’re back together again. They’ve both been through so much and are traumatized, so it’s not gonna be like it was before. But them being able to heal together is a great opportunity for more growth in their relationship and for them to be happy. Personally, I’m not sensing a breakup when Landon returns, but who knows with this show. I think it would be terrible if they did something like that and wouldn’t make sense. They already went all last season with them apart, only for them to be briefly reunited and then separated again. They can’t just keep continuing that same cycle. And with Landon wanting to get back to Hope and help her and how it seems that Landon will be the one to get Hope to turn her humanity back on, to break them up after that would be cruel and very bizarre. Hope’s humanity is off because she lost Landon, and for him to come back to life when they thought that was impossible, and for her to be able to be with him again? No way would Hope throw that away. Even with all the guilt she’s gonna feel when she turns it back on, I can’t see that causing her to break up with Landon. I hope she at least won’t push him away. Idk if he’d let her if she did, he would be sure to help her through it. So with all the separations they’ve already had, and Landon fighting to get back to Hope, as well as him possibly getting his phoenix powers back, them hinting at Handon being a power couple last season, etc. I think it’s more likely that things are heading in a better direction for Handon, not a breakup. But they’ve been screwed over so many times, I understand why you feel like there might be a breakup. I’m just really hoping they aren’t gonna mess things up with them again.

[handonhaven]

I've been wondering if they're planning on subverting the trope "don't get consumed by your relationship and have a life and friends outside of it", and instead turning it into "Handon relationship > fake friends", + Hope becoming more selective about her friends after everything. Because that's the only thing I can think of as to why they had a whole season of Hopes "friends" being terrible to her, 4x01 especially(I don't even want to get start it on why they had Hope say you'll always have your friends to Cleo no less). Even though I really want that to be the case, i doubt it. Because the writers have been making some really weird writing decisions. That it some times feels like us true fans can write a better story when it comes to these "friendships" (no offense to the writers or anything. I know they're just doing their jobs and working with what they got). But also a part of me is hoping there really will be a fall out between Hope and super squad. And that throughout the whole of season 4(4x05 onwards) will be the super squad redeeming themselves(and you know showing what good healthy friendships actually look like). But if I'm being honest I don't think there's anything they can ever do to redeem themselves in my eyes. Not even if they do manage to save both Cleo and Landon, simply because they only planned on saving Cleo in the first place. But once again I doubt that's what's gonna happen. I pretty much lost all faith in the writers after I saw 4x01. I mean if they really want all these amazing friendships with a good balance of friendships and relationships than show it with actions. Don't just throw in some bullshit lines like "no matter how much you screw up you're friends will always be there" when they spent all of s3 showing that her friends weren't there for her or Landon. Or even them throwing in lines like "you're always choosing Landon" to make it seem like Hopes been the bad friend all along and she's the one who has to change. I'm sorry but WHAT?! This is a joke right? It just has to be.

But anyways let's see how much this season will frustrate me.

I would seriously love it if they did that and it would definitely make sense with what they’ve been doing since s3, but I also doubt that that will happen. For sure, they’ve been making really bizarre writing decisions and I don’t know what it is they’re trying to achieve. To me, it almost seems as if they’re trying to tell two different narratives that contradict each other. There’s the one that actually makes sense and fits with the story and the characters, with Handon being portrayed in a positive light, with the importance of their relationship being emphasized, and the fact that Landon makes Hope happy. And having Hope fight for her happiness and for Landon, as she should. Which I thought was supposed to be one of the main points of s3. But she’s also still been there for her friends throughout, even though she did make the one risky decision in 3x08. But even with that, at the end of that episode with the dock scene, Hope’s choice to save Landon is not portrayed in a negative way. She acknowledges that she may have pissed people off, but her actions are phrased as “risking everything for the people you love.” Which is what Hope did, and she had the right to do that for Landon for once when he needed to be saved. But besides that time, we have seen that she has put her friends first and has chosen to save them time and time again.

But then they’ll flip to this other narrative that they’ve been pushing, where Hope is supposedly always choosing Landon and putting everyone in danger because of it and needs to learn to prioritize her friends more, which we know is a complete lie. But it does seem like they’re trying to fit that trope, like you said, of “don’t get consumed by your relationship and have a life and friends outside of it.” Even though that’s doesn’t even apply to Handon because Hope is not consumed or obsessed just because she’s been trying to save the person she loves most when he’s been in danger for a whole season. And when Hope and Landon have always had a life and “friends” outside of their relationship. They’ve always been there for their “friends,” have never been too wrapped up in their relationship to help, because they’ve literally sacrificed their happiness together how many times in order to help others.

But I’m honestly wondering if the writers are doing this because of all the Handon hate. Because if they’re gonna still have Handon going forward, maybe they’re trying to “correct” what people are complaining about to make people chill. And antis love to say that Handon is toxic and Hope is too involved with him, etc. So it’s like the writers are validating what the antis are saying, even though there’s nothing to back it up, so that they can “fix” it. So that they can make Hope have more of a “balance” between her friendships and her relationship with Landon. (When this has literally never been an issue. If anything, her “friendships” have prevented her from being with Landon.) They’ll tell this false narrative where Hope is prioritizing Landon too much, and show how it supposedly affects her friendships, so that Hope can learn a “lesson” and have a “realization” about the importance of her friendships. And them doing this as a way to sort of appease the antis is the only explanation I can come up with for this kind of writing, if it’s not to distance Hope from her friends or something like that. But who knows. Maybe they really do think they’re writing good friendships? (If so, yikes.)

And I totally agree, real fans would be able to write better, rather than have both Hope and Landon being treated horribly and acting as if those are healthy friendships. And I don’t want to offend or be rude to the writers either, but it’s not okay to write supposed friendships the way that they are and act as if they’re great when they’re actually very toxic at this point. And they’re the ones who create what they’ve got to work with, they don’t have to write the characters like this.

I’m also hoping for a fallout between Hope and the super squad, and Landon and the super squad when he comes back. I think it would be great for there to be some distance between them throughout season 4, and I think we will see some of that with Hope, at least. I just don’t wanna see Landon around them, I don’t know if I can endure seeing him interacting with any of them. I agree, I don’t know if they can redeem themselves at this point either, too much damage has been done. The way they’ve treated Hope after all she’s done for them is inexcusable. And if they didn’t care about Landon all this time, with all he’s been through, when he was a friend to all of them, there’s nothing that could make them care. Seeing how uncaring they’ve been towards a good person, who was kind to all of them, when he’s been suffering so much and at his most desperate, is sickening. And I don’t know how they’d ever be able to fix it.

But yeah, I’m sure the writers will continue to ignore the way the squad treats Hope and Landon, and they’ll continue to have Hope and Landon say nothing about it and keep seeing them as their friends. I don’t really have faith in the writers either, especially when it comes to friendships on the show. You’re right, they throw in lines that don’t match up with the characters’ actions at all, just a bunch of telling and no showing. The amount of lies in 4x01 was infuriating. And I’ve not even watched 4x02 yet, though I did watch the one clip of Hope and the squad, which made me even more mad. So I’m not looking forward to some more frustration. It really does feel like a joke. And I’m worried it’s just gonna continue, and possibly get worse.

[handonhaven]

It's been almost a week since 4x01 came out and I'm still so upset about that episode. But what makes me even more upset is that Malivore(the villian) was the only one not lying to Hope/telling lies about Hope. The villain being the only honest one, I have no words for that. And I can honestly go on a rant about all the lies that was being told about Hope is crazy. Now I think I know what Danielle meant when she said that people are going to be frustrated, she was talking about the real Hope and Landon stans. And from what I've seen she was right.

P.s I'm hoping(I've get my hopes up but I'm still hoping) that from 4x05 onward the writers start treating Landons character so much better. Because right now it feels like they're treating him worse than they did Bonnie. I know you can't really compare the two. But if you think about you can to some extent. Both of them were killed so many times. They both got trapped in a prison world(except that Landon was alone the whole time). Both are willing to sacrifice themselves for the people they love. I could go on but I don't want to make this ask way too long. But if I remember correctly the only difference is that Bonnie did get time to process and deal with her trauma and did have more than one person who actually cares about her(but I could be wrong it's been a long time since I've seen TVD and again I know I can't exactly compare the two of them but a lot of what happened to the both of them it seems like the best comparison to an extent). But legacies don't give that to Landon. When we saw him in 4x01 he looked completely fine like nothing bad happened to him at all. In my head I want to believe that Landon was faking the whole thing so no one would worry about him and maybe even be more willing to honor his request of killing him if it came down to it(but even I know that's a lie). But I also want them to give and show us a story arc for Landon in s4 because they didn't that for him in s3 and I'm never not gonna be upset about that. Because if they don't then I don't know what I'll do.

Me too. And I’ve seen people talking about that, about Malivore being the only one not lying to Hope, and it’s just so ironic and upsetting. I mean, he was obviously trying to trick her into going after Landon for his own purposes, but he was still telling her the truth about him being there, whereas her “friends” lied to her about it. It really is crazy how much Hope has been lied to. And yeah, this all makes sense with what Danielle said. But I thought she had also said people would be frustrated with Hope’s actions as well, didn’t she? I hope in that case, she was referring to the antis, if Hope is gonna go against the super squad and do whatever she has to to save Landon, especially after what the squad has done.

I’m always hoping that the writers will treat Landon’s character better but I’m not counting on it. And ikr? I’ve actually thought before about the similarities between Hope/Landon and Bonnie. Obviously their circumstances and everything are very different, and the writers had their own ways of mistreating Bonnie. But there are some things that are comparable. Like Bonnie was always having to sacrifice her happiness for everyone else and save the day, much like Hope. And then the similarities you mentioned between her and Landon as well, that’s very true. As for Bonnie getting time to process and deal with her trauma, I guess that would depend. That didn’t always happen, or at least not to the extent that it should have. But they did sometimes take time to focus on her trauma, like with the prison world, for example. They took the time to show the emotional toll that took on her, whereas they’ve completely ignored how Landon has been affected, couldn’t even show him there for more than a couple minutes. And yes, another difference is that Bonnie had friends who truly cared about her, at least they would acknowledge her efforts, at least they wanted to prevent her suffering, they tried to do their part to help, and mourned her when they lost her. The super squad is just so cold and uncaring, especially with Landon, it’s really sad and messed up.

And yeah, the way Landon was acting in 4x01 just goes to show how little the writers care about portraying his trauma. And I mentioned this on my other blog, but the only explanation I can think of for his behavior is if he has repressed his memories and the trauma he has experienced. Or like you say, maybe he was just faking it so they’d be more willing to sacrifice him, idk. But I’m willing to bet the writers are just ignoring his trauma once again. I agree, I really need them to actually show his storyline for season 4. And same, I’m never not gonna be pissed about them not showing his storyline in season 3. I still wanna see it, and I’d love it if they took the time to go back and explore that this season. Instead of just moving on to the next thing as if it didn’t happen. It’s seriously so frustrating, I don’t know how you can skip over something so major and act as if it wasn’t the life-altering, traumatic experience for Landon that it was. And was also supposed to be huge for his character and his development as well. So idk what they’ll do with Landon’s storyline this season but it had better be good. Because I just do not understand their bizarre writing choices at all.

[handonhaven]

Even though I promised myself I wouldn't over think things my mind went a little haywire after I saw the promo. And to think all of that happens in the first 4 episodes. A few things I saw got me to thinking. Like we saw the Ferry Man for a second, and I'm thinking he might some how be connected to Cleo bc she did make a fake Ferry Man in s3. But if it's not does that mean that someone is dead or died(pls don't let it be Landon again even if it is only temporary)? The other thing that stood out to me is that we saw Hope in the woods. So it makes me wonder if everyone's theory about Hope doing a head dive is right. And if it is I'm praying that they didn't waste this opportunity to show us something on Landons past. Bc if they did I'll have no control over the person I'll become. And from the looks of it we might be learning more about Cleo's past and I don't mind that. But come on Landon is not only a main character, he's a lead and we know nothing about his past. At this point I think I might settle of a small scene of him discovering Star Wars for the first time.

Assuming that the head dive theory is right. Not only do I hope they show us Landons past. But show us what's going on with Landon now. Show us Hope fighting to find Landon, show us Landon fighting to get back to Hope/regain control of his body and so on. Bc there's so much they could do with that so hopefully they didn't waste. Bc like I said I'll have no control over the person I'll become if they wasted this opportunity.

I get that, I don’t really know exactly how to feel after the trailer, but I do feel like I’ve gotta brace myself for these next episodes because I’m worried that I’m just gonna end up being very disappointed. And yeah, I saw other people thinking it looked like the Ferryman too, idk what that might mean. I suppose he could be connected to Cleo, that would make sense since she made him. I have no clue, I was never interested in the Ferryman tbh, so I’m not particularly excited if we’re gonna see more of that. But I don’t see how it could be Landon who is dead? His body is still alive, so I don’t see how that would be possible. His soul/spirit should still be in his body, especially since that’s supposed to be the main issue now, with Hope being unable to harm Malivore without hurting Landon too. Or maybe his Phoenix side really did die? And if the Ferryman is there, that’s how they get it back? (Which I think would be dumb because it doesn’t make sense for him to actually lose something he was born with, but I’d take that over him being dead again.)

And as far as Hope doing a head dive with that scene in the forest, same! I’m so hoping that’s in Landon’s mind. I agree, they better not waste this opportunity because there’s SO much they could do. And ikr, I’m gonna be crushed if they don’t do anything with all that potential. And I’ve been thinking the same thing about Cleo as well. I don’t mind learning more about Cleo and her past. But if they’re really gonna take the time to focus more on that and her trauma and they’re not gonna take a significant amount of time to focus on Landon and his past and his entire storyline last season that they didn’t make the effort to visually show us, and his trauma and all that he’s been going through while possessed by Malivore and what state he’s in right now... I don’t think I’ll forgive the writers. You don’t put the male lead through all of that and do nothing to properly show it, while focusing on other characters instead. Especially when they’ve traumatized Landon more than any other character. I mean, even with the synopsis we got, it was like “poor Cleo”, and yeah I feel bad Cleo is trapped in Malivore, but there was no mention of Landon and all the pain and torture he’s been enduring, there never is. And I know that was just a little synopsis, but that’s literally how it is in the show and the fandom. They’ll show concern for practically everyone except Landon. They do not care about his mental well-being, they never say anything about it. And I can just see that continuing into season 4 and it’s gonna be so infuriating to watch.

But aww, I would love to see Landon discovering Star Wars for the first time. 🥺 I would love to see anything from his past. But yeah, I especially want them to show what’s going on with Landon right now and what he’s experienced since the beginning of season 3. YES, I need to see both Hope and Landon fighting for each other. Especially after all of the many Handon lines we’ve gotten that are so relevant right now (like Landon saying he’d get himself home at the end of 3x06, and always fight to find Hope again back in s1, Hope saying she’d “do it all over again” to save Landon, etc.), I need to see all of that happening now. Because yes, it could seriously be so amazing with all the things they could do to show them fighting for each other. And I’ll have no control over who I’ll become either if they end up wasting all of these opportunities. I think I’m probably gonna have to rely on my own imagination in order to cope with my disappointment if/when we don’t get the scenes and moments we should be getting.