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cameoamalthea Ā· 6 hours ago
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I need the resolution! But I'm scared we won't get it because Murderbot is going to <spoiler>Ā watch World Hoppers Instead </spoiler>
I'm also not sure how that will go in Season 2, because
in the book, the reason <spoiler>it Ā watches World Hoppers is because it watches with someone who is "less interested in Sanctuary Moon, which took place on a colony, than Worldhoppers, which was about the crew of a large exploration ship. </spoiler>.
But they made Sanctuary Moon set on a ship instead of a Colony, how are they going to differentiate it?
My theory is Santuary Moon mostly takes place on a Colony and follows the story-lines of multiple characters in different locations each with their own separate arcs/multiple different interconnected arcs like in a soap opera.
However, the storyline Murderbot happened to be watching in Season 1 happened to take place on a spaceship, but Murderbot previously skipped over that story arc since it's a bot romance story line but has run out of other sanctuary moon to watch so is going back for just that arc.
This explains why it seems to viewing it out of order.
Episode 356 - The navigation bot and Flight Captain Hossein are stranded on a planet, sparking a relationship.
Several more episodes, presumably following immediately after 356, portray the relationship between NavBot and Hossein.
After Kullervv mutunies and forces NavBot to kill Hossein, there is an episode in which NavBot kills Kullervv. Murderbot is watching it for the first time/doesn't know how it ends.
However, Murderbot has watched later episodes:
Episode 418 - Bookkeeper Wittenmark kills the crew, takes the proprietary data, sells it on the black market and buys expensive luxury goods for himself.
Season 19, episode 4 - It is revealed or implied that Bookkeeper Wittenmark framed the colony solicitor for killing the terraforming supervisor who was the secondary donor of her implanted baby. (so 418 is in Season 19)
Episode 537 - Alderman Friess is being rescued by Rescue Worker Fimbro.
Episode 599 - Kogi Saves the Day.
Episode 807 - Flight Officer Kogi causes comm static when he's disobeying orders.
We know there are 2797 episodes total, which Murderbot says are Premium Quality so it likely watched all of it or parts of all of it since it's watching the 350s episodes (or portions of them) for the first time.
I think this because I started watching the Soap Opera "All My Children" as an 11 year old because my mom was watching it and I was interested in the plot lines that seemed like a Fairy Tale Romance.
And I would preferred it if I could have just fast forwarded to the Ryan/Gillian romance bits (Gillian was a Princess and is in love with Ryan, but she's married to Jake, so her relationship with Ryan is secret and they meet in secret at a tower and write love letters via email where she goes by Rapunzel to hide her identity so they can't get caught). I wanted to watch that bit, but my mom watched all of it so I watched all the plot lines.
I think Murderbot is the opposite, watch the plotlines that aren't love stories first.
So maybe most of the plot lines are on a colony but sometimes there's other locations because space jobs are just a job people have in contemporary media so just like some characters are soliciters some work on ships so we get plot lines on the ship. Whereas shows like <spoiler>Ā  World Hoppers </spoiler> are more action adventure discovery shows. (Like the difference between a Medical Drama and General's Hospital which is a soap opera that sometimes takes place in a Hospital).
(Also it's ok that Gillian was cheating because Jake pressed her to get married right away so he could try to get custody of his child - who it turned out wasn't actually his - and another girl who liked Ryan lied about Ryan being with her/not loving Gillian, but then Jake left town like a month after the wedding when he found out the kid he had with a different woman who he wanted custody of wasn't his kid and so he lest the state to 'regroup' abandoning his wife, so like of course she's going to have an affair since she's till in love with Ryan, Jakes been gone a month (he's been out of town for as long as he's been with her after getting married) and she has no idea when he's coming back).
https://www.soapcentral.com/all-my-children/recaps/2000/ This summary gives you an idea how soap opera episodes work with each episode covering snippets of different stories
I can't believe I'm invested in Sanctuary Moon. Fuck this GrayCris stuff, does the Nav Bot kill Sklanch? Does the whole crew die? Is Captain Hossein really dead? Did Kullervv (sp?) arrange all this so he could be captain? Is he in league with Bookkeeper Bittenmark??? Murderbot is so right, this is a premium quality show, I'd like all 19 seasons please
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ashlynnshoecloset Ā· 1 year ago
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i recently rewatched descendants and you really don’t realize how much better ever after high is until you compare them side by side.
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keferon Ā· 5 months ago
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May I ask what were the best transformers media you ever saw/read?
Well Transformers Prime, Transformers 1986 and IDW comics are having the first place that’s for sure
And then the second place is kind of shared by Fall of Cybertron, Exodus, Prime wars trilogy, Robots in disguise(2001) and Transformers One.
The third place goes to G1, Animated, Earthspark, Armada, War for Cybertron Netflix series, Aligned Robots in disguise, Bumblebee, Rise of the Beasts and Cyberverse because I only liked some little parts of them.
And then I also saw some of the Bay movies, Victory and Headmasters and didn’t like them at all.
Separate first place for J-Decker. It is not exactly Transformers but it is a show about giant robots and I loved it
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#call me weird for placing cheap ugly shows above Earthspark and Animated#but the thing is#I have when the whole narrative revolves around human kids#*hate#I’m allergic to them#Prime wars trilogy had one of the worst face rigs I ever saw#but it also had Overlord teaming up with evil Rodimus and Megatron being funniest mf alive#Armada is straight up infuriating imma be honest#Armada is like#Au where all the weapons work only once and then just create some glitter#I actually have SO many thoughts on Armada. like. as a writer#the way they keep reusing the same plot 3000 times is borderline impressive#OH War for Cybertron from Netflix was such an experience!#It was so painfully boring and stupid sometimes#but the other times. ooooouuufff. The scene where some nameless decepticon gives Megatron a little tour to show him how him and his friends#-work so hard for the cause??? THAT SHIT HIT HARD#….also I pretty much only like the Quintesson apocalypse arc from the entire Cyberverse#Transformers Victory is fun until you actually hear them speaking#the concept of Star Saber adopting a human child and raising him and then#going to human school as his legal guardian being like ā€˜yeah sure I can sign all your tiny ass documents’#it’s hilarious but unfortunately all the writers of that anime were snorting cocaine because WHY all the characters talk like that#Animated was fun for me only near the end. Idk what to say. I’m not a fan of any drama centered around humans#things got interesting when Cybertronian government got involved#Earthspark is WHOLE giant topic ahahah. I liked Twitch. sometimes. I also liked Grimlock while he had voice lines. Prowl was fun.#everything else needs and essay haha I don’t wanna annoy anyone#OH I also watching Tf Cybertron right now and this shit is UGLY. they have NO RIGS. THEY HAVE ONE EXPRESSION EACH#but for some fucked up reason I love it. they got the guy named Landmine who only can have (-_-) face.#their Megatron actually respects Starscream so far and regularly gives him positive reinforcement??? I heard words ā€˜excellent job Starscrea#and went WAIT WHAT#Anyway. If you ask me to ramble about media you get a word tsunami. I have a lot to share
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vitrall Ā· 8 months ago
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I don't think Jayce and Viktor literally died. They were kind of pulled into another dimension/astral plane/whatever you call it. We see older Viktor, and while it could be another Viktor, I think it would be more meaningful if it was our Viktor, finally free from the arcane, going through the universe with Jayce, fixing timelines together. Kind of like a cosmic mission.
#jayvik#arcane spoilers#arcane season 2#arcane#the yaoi isn't as doomed as it seems#i mean arcane s2 wasn't perfect#and jayvik left me feeling colder than expected#they played a huge role in the end and they barely had screentime this season????#i will always love jayvik tho#otp otp i adore them#jayvik screentime isn't the only issue I have with season 2 tho#the way piltover vs zaun was treated.........#ā€œomg if we work together we can solve our differencesā€ what differences tho there was a clear power imbalance and police brutality I'm????#plus jink's ā€œdeathā€ was kinda forced and weak?? so last minute??? like I know she isn't actually dead but yeah#and sevika????? where's my wife?????? she did NOTHING on act 3???? did she even talk????#also mel has never been my favourite bc they mainly used her as a plot device and a romantic interest to a male character which suckss#but in s1 she started to show vulnerability in the end??? even early s2??? like girl where is all of that??#that's WAY more interesting than the ā€œtough serious warriorā€ character she's become#anyway everything happened too quickly#too much time spent on noxus shit#ooooh i wonder what the next show is going to be about hmmmm#and so many things weren't explained#everything surrounding viktor and the arcane and what happened to jayce and viktor was kinda foggy#also wtf is sky doing there???? it should have been little viktor or something idk#plus where are caitlyn's dictator arc and vi's boxer arc?? they barely lasted???#and maddie should have been more prominent if she was working with ambessa? we barely saw her (or ambessa) manipulate caitlyn#also ambessa's plan wasn't 100% clear either so I'm guessing that plot line (and singed's???) will appear again sometime
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hcnnibal Ā· 2 months ago
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thats so sweet!! its wonderful when partners are so supportive of each other's interests and use their own perspective/skills to engage so meaningfully in them <3
its been really cool sharing this with him!
he’s always been very supportive of my art and my projects in general but look homeward has been the first project he’s been like. invested in. i dont know if i wouldve stuck to it as much as i have if my husband wasnt constantly like ā€˜new page today? šŸ™? what happens next?’
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mollysunder Ā· 10 months ago
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The one thing I don't understand about the theory where Piltover and Zaun are teaming up to fight Noxus in the end, is why are Vi and Ekko flying towards Jinx's supposed airship if they're on the same team? Why does Vi NEED to confront Jinx in the middle of a warzone?
We see Ekko in garb that looks like he's on Jinx's side, but we mostly see him with the Firelights in those scenes, and they not decorated in Jinx's colors. Even minor background characters that are on Jinx/Sevika's side have a pink X on the right side of their chest. The Firelights are completely free of any graffiti or markers that would identify them with Jinx, and Vi is in an enforcer uniform. We don't see any other Zaunites in the crowd, but for some reason Vi and Ekko are centering their concentration on Jinx.
I think what's happening is that Ambessa's forces are fighting against Piltover's enforcers, but Jinx isn't helping, she's taking advantage of the chaos. Jinx is probably in Piltover to do something big that Piltover can't defend against since they're preoccupied with Noxus. Jinx will probably think the fight between Noxus and Piltover is the best opportunity to kill two birds with one stone. Vi and Ekko will probably object, they'll say her plan goes too far, and it'll get people killed. The whole scenario will probably be a more extreme mirror to whatever the Silco flashback will reveal about what went down on the Day of Ash and why Vander tried to kill Silco, except this time with magic.
#arcane#arcane meta#jinx arcane#vi arcane#ekko arcane#i know everyone's having a great time dissecting the trailer but the trailer for s1 wasn’t even that vague to begin with#sure you couldn't guess the WHOLE plot but me as a non league person could see#ā€œred head has beef with eye dudeā€#ā€œrich people either oblivious or super mad about poor people doing stuffā€#ā€œmagic stuff is happeningā€#is the s2 trailer really any different?#also christian linke keeps hammering that the show is about if you can forgive a sibling that's a monster#and he's not that subtle when he's implying that the ā€œmonsterā€ is silco and jinx in the metaphor (probably viktor too)#but what has jinx done so far that’s really THAT monstrous for her to stand distinct from the oppression of piltover#i think the show's gonna have jinx contemplate what it means to be lionized and valued by the general population#meanwhile Caitlyn's gonna do a lot of messed up stuff as means of asserting control over the situation and keeping piltover ā€œsafeā€#caitlyn will probably REALLY cross the line and it'll involve jinx#cait will reavaluate her morals and break off from ambessa and jinx will be like ā€œI'm gonna show you what a war arc isā€#and move into Viktor's cult for a power up before leaving to destroy piltover and noxus#and also ekko's character description say he and heimerdinger will save zaun#so what's the magical problem that they build a magical solution for? ...it's jinx
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jewishcissiekj Ā· 3 months ago
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i get that sometimes that's not the case but I do think comic covers should be somewhat indicative of what happens in the issue and not just like. pin-ups.
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devilsskettle Ā· 6 months ago
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people arguing about whether or not it’s problematic to ship ian and poppy, and whether or not it’s problematic for be vocally against shipping ian and poppy, in the main tag. meanwhile i am looking for crumbs of danarachel because the entire fanbase has decided they’re boring. but danarachel date night though. danarachel workplace conflict of interest. danarachel adopting a dog. so many beautiful things happening so far in season 4
#they low key are boring tbh šŸ˜”#i love them though and i love their chemistry#i think the writers decided to focus more on their own plot arcs (especially for dana) than their relationship#but while s1 is peak danarachel unresolved yearning — i do think they’re the most interesting they’ve ever been as characters by s4#and there’s so much potential for messiness in the work/life balance of their relationship that they’re setting up#we’ll see if there’s payoff!! (because there wasn’t that much payoff to the berkeley plot line……)#but i have faith in this season#tbh i do understand that some of the other sickos in this show have more fuel for fan engagement#especially like speculation and unresolved tension and toxicity etc#but sometimes istg people are just making excuses why they don’t care about lesbians as much as men tbqh#i will say it’s funny to see people in the tag defend poppy x ian because ā€˜if it were an mlm ship it would be so popular in the fandom’#and like. honestly true lol.#but i will say part of why i don’t like the idea of poppy x ian is bc i’m SICK of straight relationships everywhere all the time#in literally everything i watch m/f friendships devolve into romantic relationships#you’ve gotta take your fandom glasses off sometimes#i don’t think it’s Problematic in fact i think it’s interesting to think about OUTSIDE of canon#but i will be very disappointed if it happens in the show#anyway i’m not even putting this in the main tag bc it’s 4 am and idk if this even makes sense rn#but i will send it out into the void#i will post some danarachel shit when i have time since i have to do everything myself around here šŸ™„
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asexualsimonsnow Ā· 11 months ago
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A few people in the tags on my Agatha romance plot line poll are voicing the same sorts of thoughts I had. I did not like her romance plot line because she had all these lines in the two previous books that, to me and many others, were implying her aromanticism. To have a chapter from her POV where she expresses feeling broken due to a suspected inability to feel that type of attraction only to later have this ā€œresolvedā€ by her finding the right person was extremely frustrating and disappointing.
Even beyond an aro reading of the character, it’s disappointing to see her coupled up at the end of the third book. So much of the first book was about subverting the expectations that come from these types of stories. One of these expectations seemed to me to be not just that the chosen one gets the perfect girl, but that all the characters are neatly coupled up by the end and have romance as a part of their story. In the first book not only is Agatha not with Simon, the chosen one, her supposed destiny, she’s not interested in coupling up and fulfilling that expectation placed on her by the world in which she lives and by the type of story she inhabits, at all. It feels like backtracking on her character growth to watch a romance play out for her in the third book.
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unordinary-diary Ā· 9 months ago
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Prison Tattoos
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ā€œRule number one for surviving prison: the tougher you look, the easier your ability to chooseĀ the person you want to be while you’re inside. Be labeled or perceived as a punk, a bitch, or a weakling, and you will have your public perception on the inside chosen for you. So you can lift weights, learn to fight, practice snarling in a mirror — you can do all these things,Ā but none of them will accomplish as much for you as getting a [good] tattoo.ā€ — Chris Dankovich in The Tales of a Former Prison Tattoo Artist
An alternative idea to my first, more pessimistic Season 3 Prediction, in which they find him looking a little more like this ^
For the tattoo designs I did a lot of research and I chose them carefully. The snake tattoo I chose because it is: A. Not affiliated with any particular real-world gang, B. Common among white prisoners (many prison tattoos are racially specific), and C. Notably, not a nazi thing (I did check). Snake tattoos can sometimes symbolize change or rebirth because of the way they shed their skin, but there doesn’t seem to be any one, universal meaning for them. For Blyke here, I thought it would serve as a message to other inmates: ā€œDon’t touch me, I’m venomous.ā€
The rose with a dagger through it can mean many things in the free world, but in prison it means someone was locked up before they reached adulthood. I don’t know if people typically get this as kids or if they get them when they grow up (probably the latter), but I imagine that Blyke gets it because: ā€œI was a kid when they locked me up. But now... I’m a man. Grr, hng, and other macho man noises.ā€
More versions of the drawing below the cut
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Latest chapter as of Prediction: Side Story — Triple Threat (2)
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ashenberry Ā· 9 months ago
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yeah yknow while i dont think portable ops serves that well a bridge between even mgs3 & peacewalker much less mgs3 & mgs4 I do think giving players more time w/ zero, paramedic, sigint, and even campbell to an extent was a good call given their increased importance to the story in 4 yknow, kind of give more of the hints to the roles they would play it wouldve been a bit jarring if they just had the 1 game that doesnt really hint towards any of thi[looks at the execution of the mgs1/2 casts inclusion] ah shit
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johanna-swann Ā· 9 months ago
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Don't worry guys, I'm sure we'll see Tommy again eventually. Or at least hear him get mentioned. It might not be in the aviation emergency episode (even though he's a pilot). And it might not be in the episode where the 217 is on call with the 118 (even though that's his station). But I'm sure it'll happen at some point.
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oblivious-aro Ā· 29 days ago
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You know, I wasn't sure how I felt about Diane and Mr. Peanutbutter as a couple, but I after watching After the Party, I'm completely sold. Their fight was so cathartic and authentic, and they came away with a better understanding of each other, but with that comes the acknowledgment that their goals and desires don't completely line up, and even though they very much love each other and their relationship, there's no path forward where both of them are 100% happy.
I actually cried a little while watching that scene.
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litrallytyrus Ā· 11 months ago
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i’ve been rewatching the good place …….. idk maybe i’m easy to please but …… it’s literally Perfect TV
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xiaojaan Ā· 3 months ago
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i had some expectations from us the series but they made sure to crush every single one of them
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aromanticasterisms Ā· 13 days ago
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starting the waifei peninsula plot and sighing sadly thinking abt how much i miss hugo + the sons of calydon the whole time
#personal stuff#delete later#bury your tears w the past + tour de inferno you will always be famous to me.#man. mannn. i am literally. not enjoying s2 as much as i did s1 </3#s1 was like ooh genius hacker / hollow investigators working from behind the scenes!! because you physically can't go on the front lines!#and you have to be careful to keep your identity secret and only share it with the people you trust! because what you're doing is illegal!#but as of the epilogue / into s2 it's like yeah you're literally working for The Mayor of the only city left on earth.#it's such a sudden shift from phaethon being a well-kept secret to being like. in the pocket of one of the most influential guys around#and not having to worry about electricity bills. fairy come back.... fairy..... bring your plot relevance back fairy.............#also. the really fun physical limitations and drawbacks are just. erased. via wifi update. with the shakiest reasoning known to man#s2g please let the mayor be a twist villain or something jesus christ.#him saying ohh yeah i knew your teacher i'm helping you out of respect for her....#in the SAME arc where he lied through his teeth about spreading the truth abt hugo's death because he respected him.#and i'm NOT supposed to be suspicious of the wifi update that has seemingly no drawbacks? that lets us do more [for him]?#and like. goddamn. maybe the story is just starting slow but the whole time i'm okay any minute now it's going to start to get interesting.#any minute now. surely.#oooh wow the suspicious doctor was working with the one actively malicious group we're dealing with. what a surprise#there is literally fuck all going on otherwise. the story literally stops to show me another tutorial for a management sim#SWEAR TO GOD. WE'RE ON SEASON TWO OF THIS GAME AND I STILL HAVEN'T ESCAPED NEW GAME MODES AND TUTORIALS.#don't get me started on the new hollow exploration. they truly traded one tedious exploration game mode for another.#i didn't love the tv gameplay but at least it was unique. why am i back in the hi3p2 mines again. get me out of here#and the characters really. truly. are from a different genre from the rest of the zenless cast or something like they have Nothing going on#they r simply not as silly and whimsical as everybody else. šŸ˜” which ig is reasonable if the plot is getting more serious but come onnnn#anyway. maybe i'll come to like it later but truly. truly. it is not hitting any of the right notes for me.
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