#like the plot lines the characters the character arcs

[angstandhappiness]

Interesting

Love Triangles

I'm gonna be honest, the idea of Stolitz becoming a love triangle just to extend the drama seems so pointless to me.

Like, I just don't like the idea at all.

I've seen love triangles done so many damn times in media, and usually I'm fine with it, if done right....

However, introducing a love triangle to the Stolitz dynamic to the main couple already dealing with so many issues:

Self-esteem issues for both parties

Kings of Miscommunication

Unresolved trauma stemming from years of abuse

Differences in Class Hierarchy

Etc.

Frankly, I don't mind if they want to do it as a thing for one or two episodes, but to do it for like half a season or maybe even an entire season?

I just can't. I'd get so tired.

Even if we have 30 episodes left, Season 2 has introduced so many storylines that have yet to be finished, and who's to say Season 3 won't introduce more:

Moxxie’s ongoing issues with his father, Crim

Striker still being an antagonist towards IMP, who seems to especially have it out for Blitzø

The freaking Ozzie, Mammon, and Fizz situation

Blitzø’s ongoing path of redemption in general where he learns to deal with his severe self-hatred

Blitzø and his ongoing relationship issues with people other than just Stolas: Barbie, Verosika, and the I.M.P gang in general

Stolas needing to unlearn 30 years of internalized classism

Stolas needing to deal with the potential divorce

Stolas potentially losing his title

Stolas and his problems with Octavia

Etc.

My dudes as much as I love Stolitz, I do want to see the other characters as well...

[higuchisora]

Master List of Arcane Headcanons & Fic Ideas

Because I've noticed my ever-growing collection also tends to have overlapping lore. You're free to use any of these in whatever fan content you like, just be sure to tag me because I wanna see it! ESPECIALLY if it's a fic.

Headcanons:

Zaun is Culturally Artistic (feat. character headcanons)

Zaun Naming Culture (feat. character headcanons)

Firelights

Maddie Nolen

Gert (feat. Gertvi)

Teen Gertvi

Fic Ideas:

Fluffy Happy Independent Zaun

Maddie backstory rewrite + optional supplemental reading

Revolution AU (feat. Madvi)

Zaunite Revolution arc rewrite AU

Alternate Enforcer arcs for Vi

Zaun Protector AU/Alternate Enforcer arc 2

No Noxian Invasion AU/Vi's Alternate "Selfish Act"

Machine Herald AU/Alternate Viktor Arc AU

Replacing Loris AU (Vi Gets an Alternate Companion)

Vi Prison Shenanigans

Teen Vi Meets Silco/Alternate Season 1 AU

Alternate Warwick Plot Line (feat. someone else's original post)

Vi Joins Viktor's Cult AU (feat. someone else's original post)

Zaun Dads Adopt Isha (born earlier)

Vi Dies in S1A1: First and Second Editions

Vi Actually Displaying Mental Illness Symptoms/Poor Coping Mechanisms (feat. someone else's original post)

These are in no particular order. Listing them all has made me realize I've written a HELL of a lot of ideas though, lol. If any of the OPs of the posts I reblogged are uncomfortable with me listing their posts, let me know and I'll repost my reblog on its own and replace the link.

[rightwheretheyleftme]

Asami vs Meelo: Who had more screentime in Book 4?

I recently read an analysis of Book 4 of Korra, as one does, and the poster claimed that Meelo had more lines in the final season than Asami. My initial reaction was "that can't be right", we all know that Asami is by far the most underwritten main character in the franchise but there is no way that they would give more lines to the comic relief character than to her, right? right??? Well, I decided to do the math.

Let's start with the basics:

Asami either doesn't appear or speak in episodes 3, 4, 6, and 10.

Meelo doesn't appear in episodes 2, 8, 9, and 10.

Both are absent for 30,7% of the final season.

Now, let's cut to the chase: Meelo has 61 lines in book 4 while Asami has 71. Here is the full breakdown:

Some random facts: - The most Meelo-centric episode is The Calling where he has a whopping 42 lines. In contrast, the most Asami-centric episode is Reunion where she has 20 lines.

- Asami only has 1 line in the finale before her love confession to Korra.

- In Kuvira's Gambit, the episode where the finale arc starts, Asami and Meelo have almost the same amount of lines (5 vs 4)

- Meelo is present in the episode where Kuvira refuses to step down and the true plot of the season begins. Asami isn't.

- Meelo has more lines about how he feels about being the only boy in his family (3) than Asami has about how she feels about the brutal murder of her father (1)

So Asami wins! Yay! ..... did she, though?

Could you imagine if the Cabbage Merchant only had 10 lines less than Sokka/Katara/Toph/Zuko during the final season of ATLA?

Could you imagine someone having to count and compare the Cabbage Merchant's lines to Sokka/ Zuko/Toph/Katara's?

This is what really confuses me about Asami as a character. The writers made her a main character yet they refused to treat her like one. She has no depth, complexity or three-dimensionality; she barely has more lines than the comic relief buffoon.

Asami deserved better, man.

[squirrelno2]

Ok so Davrin! I have Thoughts about Davrin.

Because if you’re aware at all of the stuff I write you’re probably aware that I am a big fan of the kind of character who subsumes their own desires and survival and personhood for the sake of being One Thing, whether that’s a living weapon/made to be a soldier situation or just a “I am Your Best Friend first and foremost situation”. It is, uh. Small wonder I end up liking characters of colour the most, since those are the ones most often written with a Purpose in the story who don’t get to expand beyond that Purpose in the narrative, or if they do have that arc that I crave it’s still underrepresented in fanworks so it becomes my favourite and most frustrating niche where I have to create the content I want to see in the world, which is “person who tries to ignore their own needs gets to realise they’re allowed to love and be loved whether or not they’re useful”. Please be aware that while I don’t specifically discuss Davrin’s Blackness in the next few paragraphs it is a large part of why I’m writing this now because it massively changes the way this story gets read, both because people with unexamined biases will gloss over his story and just accept Davrin as being a tool to the story instead of a person and also because those of us who are aware now must consider how to address such a storyline knowing that Black people most of all are reduced in their stories to things and plot points.

So getting back to Davrin in particular I am both obsessed with and frustrated by how he’s written because! His narrative is such a good example of this trope! He is a monster hunter, and to a lesser extent at the start a protector, and from the moment we meet him he is trying very hard to keep himself shut in that box. He downplays any effect he has on the griffons, is upset at the idea of taking care of Assan because that’s what the others are there for, he’s just the sword arm. As time goes on and we do things like, you know, fight an archdemon without getting our Warden buddy killed, he seems so lost and almost devastated to have not died when he was “supposed to” – and this is a man who doesn’t really seem suicidal at all, he has no real desire to die, he just. Expects to. And what he can do to save others is always more important to him than what he could do to save himself. When my Rook walked in there expecting to be overjoyed with him that they were both still around I have to think the gap in emotion was so jarring to both of them, because like. This man has accepted his own death in the face of the “greater good” for so long that he never once made a contingency plan or even wild hope for “what if I don’t die?” And it’s so cool that he and my Rook got to walk hand in hand through danger and decide they deserve to be happy! It’s so cool that you get to potentially get him through the entire game and into a life with open possibilities and who knows what kind of future for the Wardens! That’s my shit!

And while I can’t say I’ll never choose the Grey Warden option for the griffon choice, to me that is so much a metaphor about letting yourself become a weapon vs finding peace and joy that is in line with you as an individual that if I’m playing the game acting on my conscience, not a Rook who’s further from me, I will always choose Arlathan for them. Because that’s so obviously a metaphor for Davrin’s own growth as a character.

This is where it pisses me off, though – too much of that metaphor is treated literally. Davrin doesn’t verbally acknowledge what the griffons’ changing role means for him, and I’m unsure if an unromanced Davrin ever says anything about planning for the future, having only gotten through the game once thus far. The fucking epilogue where all the companions say a little line about what’s in their future and Davrin just mentions the griffons and not his own fucking life??? Like he had a little line about pursuing romance or whatever but again. That’s a romanced Davrin. If he and my Rook hadn’t vibed “the griffons found a new home in Arlathan” or whatever would have been presented as the sole culmination of Davrin’s character arc. I love coparenting a griffon as much as the next guy but we cannot replace the “sword arm” persona with a “griffon daddy” persona as though him subsuming his needs and wants for the sake of Assan is any better for him than doing it for the Wardens. What the fuck.

Anyway short version of all that is Davrin has my favourite kind of story, and griffons are a metaphor for the way Wardens treat themselves. and the POINT of me writing all that is that you cannot approach his story without acknowledging that the fact that he’s a Black man means people who work/ed on both canon and fan content are ready and willing to treat him as a tool in his own fucking storyline for the sake of an animal, and he deserves so much better because holy hell if you’re gonna write a Black man with this kind of “I exist for a Purpose alone” arc you have got to pay attention to what you’re doing. Please. his story involves Assan but it's not about Assan it's about him.

[hellstobetsy]

Homestuck Acts 1-4: Like watching an Actual Play podcast. It was fun at the time, and there's still stuff to like, but rereading it now there's a loooooot of fucking around, especially in act 1. Stuff like Dave spending 100+ pages collecting items for a boss fight and the joke is that he gets one-shot and never uses any of them.

Homestuck Intermission: A commonly asked question by new fans is "Can I skip the intermission?". It's pretty much entirely time-based puzzles, but does have one of HS's best lines.

Homestuck Act 5: Turns into a tighter-paced sci-fi action comic. Trolls become very prominent, Vriska is introduced and becomes nearly the protagonist. Generally considered the "good" part and the peak of its popularity. If you're Homestuck curious but not 8000 pages Homestuck curious, it actually might be worth reading Act 5 Act 1 just by itself, as it's pretty short and condensed and heavily features Vriska at her Vriskest. You'd get the gist of it from that.

Homestuck Acts 6-7: This was supposed to be like three months long and instead they stretched it out for years and you can really tell. Self-defensively meta ("Real people don't have character arcs") and has aged the worst. [S] Collide is still hype though.

Epilogues/Homestuck 2: Somewhere between a blatant cash grab to solve Hussie's money troubles and a nervous breakdown, introducing completely insane plot points and character twists at a rapid beat. It's so bad and stupid that it nearly loops back around to being ironically good. Most of the art budget went to Viz Media. Names a major non-joke character "Yiffany Longstocking". Canceled mid-story.

Homestuck Beyond Canon (Currently updating!): A revival of Homestuck 2 run by the Steven Universe music team (?!) who got the IP rights in exchange for promising to finish HS2. The writing is much improved but it's built on a truly batshit foundation. Tries and mostly succeeds in making Yiffany Longstocking a cool badass punk. They're currently working on Homestuck's first big music video in years and the fandom might pop off when that comes out in a few weeks.

tl;dr: Maybe just read Act 5 Act 1, which can be banged out pretty quick and has the tightest writing in the whole comic.

It kinda sounds like Homestuck is the opposite of Steven Universe, in that Homestuck was really good at the time cause the fandom was active and you got regular updates, but it's not as good now cause it's way too long, the writing is mid in hindsight, and there's a bunch of stuff that didn't age well, meanwhile Steven Universe was MISERABLE to be a fan of as it was airing because the fandom was a torrential nightmare and the release schedule was incredibly inconsistent, but now that the dust has settled and you can just watch the entire show at your leisure it's obvious it's still a really good show.

[sly-s-n0nfusion]

Sly's personal ✨Octopath rankings✨

So I've been into Octopath since the year it came out as a franchise basically and I recently finished the second game so I felt like ranking both games' characters and stories based on my likings. Remember that all opinions are valid and if I didn't enjoy your favorite character or story as much as you did it's fine :) also, there aren’t characters or stories I actually disliked with two exceptions so I’m mostly being kind- but honest.

May do spoilers so I'll put them under a cut

Ot1

Stories

Olberic - His story has to be my favorite because of its impeccably functional structure and climax. I am a sucker for redemption stories and I think they nailed every chapter of it. They even made me like the arena chapter even though I'm not a fan of tournament arcs. It's a very well-executed emotional story and it had me hooked since the beginning (also loving the “plot twist” that his final chapter boss is NOT Erhardt, which is what everyone is expecting since chapter 1)

Cyrus - A compelling mystery story with some plot twist I liked and actually interesting pieces of lore in it. What I liked the most about it (if we ignore Therese's blatant deus ex machina moment in his ch3) is that you can't really tell what will happen when you go into one of his chapters. Also has probably the best ch4 with some of the rawest lines ever against Lucia

Alfyn - Loved his chapter 3 to death because of the moral ambiguity and also has one of the best side characters (Ogen). Golden boy has to doubt everything he knew in his life and I love that. Has kind of a slow start though

Ophilia - While I think ch2 could be executed much better and made less boring, the circular structure and moral of her story is amazing. The emotional ch4 almost made me tear up

H'aanit - Cute interpretation of a "pupil has to find his mentor" story and has some epic moments like chapter 3. Not much more than that but it was still really enjoyable (bonus mention for Susanna, one of the best npcs)

Primrose - Kinda compelling revenge tale, except that it ends in the most unsatisfying way possible. Has some nice ideas but I felt so empty and broken at the end of her ch4 because she too is empty and broken

Tressa - Not a fan of the "coming of age stories" but I enjoyed her rivalry with Ali and her friendship with Noa, as well as Leon's backstory. No hate, just the more lighthearted stories are not really my cup of tea. Apart from those, it found it pretty boring and probably has the most anticlimactic final boss ever

Therion - The one story I really didn't like because of... many reasons. Like, it really had potential with the whole Dragonstones thing and everything but they executed it in the worst way possible. Also I hate how they tried to make him trust people again thanks to some questionable people like Cordelia and Heathcote... it just didn't feel right and left me asking myself but why though so many times

Characters

Cyrus - I do love every high intelligence - low wisdom character, bonus of they're a dork and kind of naive. Could write a whole essay about him so just know he won my heart he’s been my blorbo for what 3 years now? Almost 4

Olberic - Another trope I love is grumpy and probably depressed characters who just have a heart of gold inside and use their strength to protect the people they love so there you have it. They did a great job of delivering the emotional baggage in his internal monologues

Ophilia - I love how her character gravitates around the concept of love, loss and family. She's so dear to me

H'aanit - I like her view of the world and her stoic personality but I must say that for a main character, her introspective side could've been explored more

Alfyn - Sunshine boy who feels too much. I do like men who are not afraid of crying in front of others

Therion - a bit of a lone wolf stereotype- but I like his dry and sarcastic attitude when he talks to the other members of the party

Tressa - I like that she's a bit hot-headed and I like her enthusiasm. Definitely a character who shines more when she's with other characters though

Primrose - I think they messed up a bit with her characterization sadly because I can't really tell how the real Primrose is supposed to be even after ch4. She's often portrayed as an overly-flirty femme fatale even though it's probably trauma response and often says some... questionable things to the other members of the party in her travel banters, it's hard to get her true personality right. When she's angry, she kinda comes off as cold and distant, too. I think the writers could've done a better job with her

Ot2

Stories

Castti - Hands down the best Octopath Traveler main story ever imo. It was perfect from how the emotions were delivered to the compelling plot, to the climax in her chapter 3 and the bittersweet ending in her chapter 4. So heartbreaking and has a great attention to details, as well as amazing side characters. Perfect under every aspect and I loved the “horror rpg” vibe to it

Osvald - Amazing revenge tale (and kinda mimicking The Count of Montecristo), much more effective than Primrose's and also more heartbreaking and with an ending that's a bit more satisfying (even if the last chapter is definitely the weakest one and could've been handled better for such a good story). Cool plot twists at the right times an a villain that's actually Rotten to the Core (if we ignore the ridiculous laugh Harvey has). His chapter 1 was probably the best Octopath Traveler chapter 1 narration-wise and had me almost crying at his chapter 4 boss

Throné - I wasn't expecting her story to be this good in the slightest but the "getting out of the mafia" tale is well-executed and has some nice side plots for its side characters, as well as some quite shocking twists near the end. Her chapter 1 is also super good and has some pretty good dialogues.

Temenos - I have mixed feelings towards this one because it had so much potential but it definitely needed more time to be done correctly. The mystery plot feels kinda rushed at times (especially in chapter 3 because I think that one is kind of a narrative mess like why is everything happening SO QUICKLY) and one fatal flaw: Kaldena's backstory not being addressed well enough. She is really a character who needed to pop out more in his story. In the end it's probably a matter of pacing but it does have some real big wasted potential. Also another story that like Primrose's leaves you with a really bitter aftertaste except this time it's actually fitting for Temenos' character

Ochette - .....I'm sorry guys this story is literally Pokemon Ruby and Sapphire for a good 70% of it. Which doesn’t make it necessarily the worst story but it’s not original either. What I liked though is that it has some real good first and final chapters that got me kind of emotional and also kinda creeped me out. The side "anti-racism plot" could've been articulated better narratively but that's what we got in the end so. Also big wasted potential.

Hikari - I am not a fan of stories in which by chapter 1 you already know how they're going to end and Hikari's was exactly like this. I quite enjoyed the arena chapter and the chapter in Stormhail as well, and some parts of it were very cinematic. Not much more than that

Partitio - DISCLAIMER for the next 2 stories: again, I am not a fan of lighthearted stories because of personal taste, nothing else. I want the drama lol. This is why this one was not my cup of tea. I liked the narrative pace of chapter 1 but after that one it just kinda goes a little overboard with the crazyness idk it felt kinda weird to have a bulldog, a jobless guy and a train as bosses. What I loved were the "scent of commerce" side-stories though because it was really fitting to the time period the game is set in to have the merchant traveler interested in financing new inventions and machines. Also not that compelling overall

Agnea - Guys I'm sorry but this one was a big no for me. Legit had me really bored most of the time (especially didn't like the musical parts and her dialogues-only chapter 3 oh god) and never really got me hooked. I liked how cinematic her final boss battle was though and big w for the lesbians in her story I guess

Characters

Castti - Loved her caring, yet sarcastic attitude. She was such a fun and interesting character to be around (if we ignore how many times the travelers insist on calling her “mom” because she is just so much more) and has traits to her that left me quite surprised

Osvald - I love that for once we have a character that's not always nice to the other party members. I like his sharp tongue and atypical behavior, and him going nonverbal at times. A really interesting take on the scholar character I appreciated a lot (also dilfs lover here sorry not sorry)

Temenos - Mixed feelings for Temenos, again, because he does kinda sound like certain anime characters from my childhood but he is a fun character. Sly, snarky, diffident and secretly very broken inside is always a winning combination

Throné - I liked her a lot. I like the contrast between her kind personality and the gruesome job she's forced to do, and that she wants to redeem herself from everything she had to bear since she was a kid. I love her soft side and that she wants to be the good person she is

Partitio - Alfyn, but better. I can say I'm a fan of his over the top humour and attitude and his kind, generous heart

Agnea - Fun girl! I like her bubbly personality and also that she is stubborn and determined. She’s not a deep character but she is still fun

Ochette - I think her character had wasted potential. Even though I agree that she's fun and quirky, they didn't do a great job of portraying her as part of another whole species because they really kinda just made her personality rotate around liking meat. Also didn't really like how unnecessarily infantilized she was rip but she is still cute and fun

Hikari - .......Hikari likers I'm sorry. Oomfs who are Hikari likers if you’re reading this just know that I think your tastes are valid and I'm the one in the minority because everyone loves Hikari, so sorry for what I'm about to say but he kinda was what ruined his own story for me, as well as being the only traveler I actually dislike. I didn't like his teeth-rotting sweet dialogues and his whole character rotating around the concept of friendship. I didn't like that his one (1) flaw is him being possessed by a demon because of his cursed blood. He's too perfect. Therefore to me he's too uninteresting. Sorry!

Peace ✌️

[ashlynnshoecloset]

i recently rewatched descendants and you really don’t realize how much better ever after high is until you compare them side by side.

[vitrall]

I don't think Jayce and Viktor literally died. They were kind of pulled into another dimension/astral plane/whatever you call it. We see older Viktor, and while it could be another Viktor, I think it would be more meaningful if it was our Viktor, finally free from the arcane, going through the universe with Jayce, fixing timelines together. Kind of like a cosmic mission.

[mollysunder]

The one thing I don't understand about the theory where Piltover and Zaun are teaming up to fight Noxus in the end, is why are Vi and Ekko flying towards Jinx's supposed airship if they're on the same team? Why does Vi NEED to confront Jinx in the middle of a warzone?

We see Ekko in garb that looks like he's on Jinx's side, but we mostly see him with the Firelights in those scenes, and they not decorated in Jinx's colors. Even minor background characters that are on Jinx/Sevika's side have a pink X on the right side of their chest. The Firelights are completely free of any graffiti or markers that would identify them with Jinx, and Vi is in an enforcer uniform. We don't see any other Zaunites in the crowd, but for some reason Vi and Ekko are centering their concentration on Jinx.

I think what's happening is that Ambessa's forces are fighting against Piltover's enforcers, but Jinx isn't helping, she's taking advantage of the chaos. Jinx is probably in Piltover to do something big that Piltover can't defend against since they're preoccupied with Noxus. Jinx will probably think the fight between Noxus and Piltover is the best opportunity to kill two birds with one stone. Vi and Ekko will probably object, they'll say her plan goes too far, and it'll get people killed. The whole scenario will probably be a more extreme mirror to whatever the Silco flashback will reveal about what went down on the Day of Ash and why Vander tried to kill Silco, except this time with magic.

[emily-mooon]

Here’s a little wip I’ve been working on in between my homework!

Yes I am making a genderbent Jonathan design. I have a vision for her I must get out into the world or else I will (figuratively) explode

[demadogs]

oh my god guys why the fuck would they kill karen lmao

[jonsnowunemploymentera]

We as a fandom don’t talk enough about how Game of Thrones decided to combine Jon Snow and Young Griff into one character and how that was absolutely ridiculous on like 1000 different levels. Because how do you combine two characters who are FOILS to one another and then play it completely straight?! Then to make matters worse they gave Jon the boy’s stupid name?! Goddamnit I knew they didn’t get Jon as a character pretty early on, but why mesh his arc with the one guy you shouldn’t combine with? 😭

[asexualsimonsnow]

A few people in the tags on my Agatha romance plot line poll are voicing the same sorts of thoughts I had. I did not like her romance plot line because she had all these lines in the two previous books that, to me and many others, were implying her aromanticism. To have a chapter from her POV where she expresses feeling broken due to a suspected inability to feel that type of attraction only to later have this “resolved” by her finding the right person was extremely frustrating and disappointing.

Even beyond an aro reading of the character, it’s disappointing to see her coupled up at the end of the third book. So much of the first book was about subverting the expectations that come from these types of stories. One of these expectations seemed to me to be not just that the chosen one gets the perfect girl, but that all the characters are neatly coupled up by the end and have romance as a part of their story. In the first book not only is Agatha not with Simon, the chosen one, her supposed destiny, she’s not interested in coupling up and fulfilling that expectation placed on her by the world in which she lives and by the type of story she inhabits, at all. It feels like backtracking on her character growth to watch a romance play out for her in the third book.

[shoyoist]

realized i can talk about this here LMAO so i just finished the poppy war trilogy (r. f. kuang) a few days ago and i feel like i have a lot of unpopular opinions on that series... finished it and felt so incredibly angry that i did a google search to see if anyone agreed with me and,, i didn't see anyone agreeing with me ?? elaborating in the tagss

[unordinary-diary]

Prison Tattoos

“Rule number one for surviving prison: the tougher you look, the easier your ability to choose the person you want to be while you’re inside. Be labeled or perceived as a punk, a bitch, or a weakling, and you will have your public perception on the inside chosen for you. So you can lift weights, learn to fight, practice snarling in a mirror — you can do all these things, but none of them will accomplish as much for you as getting a [good] tattoo.” — Chris Dankovich in The Tales of a Former Prison Tattoo Artist

An alternative idea to my first, more pessimistic Season 3 Prediction, in which they find him looking a little more like this ^

For the tattoo designs I did a lot of research and I chose them carefully. The snake tattoo I chose because it is: A. Not affiliated with any particular real-world gang, B. Common among white prisoners (many prison tattoos are racially specific), and C. Notably, not a nazi thing (I did check). Snake tattoos can sometimes symbolize change or rebirth because of the way they shed their skin, but there doesn’t seem to be any one, universal meaning for them. For Blyke here, I thought it would serve as a message to other inmates: “Don’t touch me, I’m venomous.”

The rose with a dagger through it can mean many things in the free world, but in prison it means someone was locked up before they reached adulthood. I don’t know if people typically get this as kids or if they get them when they grow up (probably the latter), but I imagine that Blyke gets it because: “I was a kid when they locked me up. But now... I’m a man. Grr, hng, and other macho man noises.”

More versions of the drawing below the cut

Latest chapter as of Prediction: Side Story — Triple Threat (2)

[johanna-swann]

Don't worry guys, I'm sure we'll see Tommy again eventually. Or at least hear him get mentioned. It might not be in the aviation emergency episode (even though he's a pilot). And it might not be in the episode where the 217 is on call with the 118 (even though that's his station). But I'm sure it'll happen at some point.