#like the loona boycott

[slytherinshua]

slowly realizing more and more that the sm boycott effort is gonna amount to nothing in the end, and this is not the way we should be going about the riize situation.

i loved seunghan when he was in the group, and i am still an ot7 fan. but at a point, i think we need to think of how much of our time and energy we're willing to spend fighting for something that has such a small chance of actually happening. sm is gonna bounce back from any stock lost from the boycott because they are one of the big 3. they have like 4 of the biggest groups in kpop rn: nct, aespa, red velvet, riize. there's just no way either boycotting riize or boycotting all of sm would actually be detrimental enough to get a member who's been terminated from the group back in.

and while i don't agree with the ot6 fans who are being unreasonable, i think some ot7 fans have been just as bad. this fandom is so toxic and rotten, every day it just seems to get worse. and i don't like the narrative that most ot7 fans were spreading about ot6 kfans-- how they were just mad that seunghan was dating pre debut. that isn't why they were mad, they really didn't care about that. it's the fact that he took pictures of him with his possibly/alleged underage girlfriend (it's honestly bad enough with/without her being possible underage, which i don't have confirmation on) at what looks like a hotel and presumably sent it to his friends in a group chat (which was how it got leaked). that's why they wanted him out of the group.

personally, i don't believe that a member should get kicked out of a group or put on hiatus without a proper reason why. and seunghan's hiatus and termination is really messy. but there are valid reasons why kfans weren't too big on him. the problem is there have been many idols kicked out for things they didn't do, and others who have been caught doing really fucked up and nasty things and rightfully kicked out of the group, but it's hard to know which idols are innocent or not when there's no organization. and when we jump on a narrative train and blow something super big out of proportion, the facts and proper investigation of the situation gets lost in the mess of things.

what should have happened was things being properly investigated back in october 2023 before seunghan was ever put on hiatus, and a decision made from there whether to keep him in the group or kick him out based on that.

instead, we have the other 6 members who clearly want seunghan back tired of the state of everything (rightfully so), ot7 and ot6 fans fighting a full blown war every day without logical thinking, and misinformation being spread left and right. there's no organization, there's no firm confirmation on anything, all of this is just such a big mess.

now let me be clear IF it's true that there was anything suspicious going on between seunghan and his girlfriend, then i would obviously no longer support him. as it is, i'm not going to stop supporting him until there's firm evidence. i'm tired of kpop stans making rash decisions based on half truths instead of just being patient and waiting for the facts to come out. staying neutral during unclear situations is a valid stance to take. please let's all stop jumping to conclusions from both sides.

[hwanwooyoung]

[210701] M Countdown :: PTT (Paint The Town) :: Yves

[astrologysaysno]

No but now that we have that scene with Liliana and Subaru singing, I have this idea in my head of Subaru being an idol trainee that never got to debut because he gave up from his crippling low sense of self-esteem.

Is it because I'm currently into k-pop and want to inject it into every fandom I'm in? Yes.

Will this realisation stop me in any way? No.

So I imagine that, being a k-pop trainee, he would have at least a modicum of ability to perform tasks. I want to even headcannon this to be the source of his love for radiocalisthenics.

One day, after pulling a muscle during dance practice, a fellow trainee came and taught him radiocalisthenics to help him prevent it from happening again.

I would also like to say that he thought up lyrics on the spot, which would make him a good songwriter in general. I would even like to think he penned a few songs for nugu groups at the time in the company he trained under, learning the basics and more when it comes to production and composition

I would imagine that he would initially want a rock concept like Dreamcatcher or more of a suave Bad Boy concept. But he's actually well suited for ballads and softer production like IU or Yerin Baek as well as kooky production like Red Velvet, NMIXX, or Billlie.

If he ever debuted in a group, I would put him in a Lead Vocal Role as well as a Maknae due his age. Because in my timeline, he would be like 15-16. Also, I feel like there were a lot of problems in his time as a trainee, which caused him to drop.

A mixture of insecurity to his vocals as well as a bad vocal coach, overthinking and agonising over his looks due to his eyes, and overall fear of being not enough made him leave.

Now that he's in the Re:Zero world, he has the chance to try again.

[loonarii]

the best kpop songs you've (probably) never heard

the title is there to sound good, if you are an individual with taste who happens to listen to a lot of 2nd gen and nugu 4th gen girl group music then there is a high likelihood you will know many of the songs on this list. also omfg if any of these songs are like globally known smash hits that everyone and their mother knows im sorry lol im just dumb and late to the party apparently. This will most likely become a series, so stick around for a part 2 and drop your favourite kpop deep cuts in the comments and reblogs. my june kpop monthly roundup is dropping tomorrow, so stay tuned for that too. ~ ari

(1) Someone Like U - Dalshabet

On the fateful day that spotify snuck this banger into my queue after my daily five hours of streaming SNSD music, my life was forever altered - something shifted in my cranium, the veil was pulled from over my eyes, and I was introduced to probably thee most underrated 2nd gen banger known to man. I was going to say this is one for the SNSD stans, but to be honest, this one is for the stans of good music. 'Someone Like U' is jazzy, anthemic, and quintessential kpop. And to the OG Dalshabet stans... how does it feel to know you have superior taste xx

(2) UN-NORMAL - Queenz Eye

This is such an if-you-know-you-know type of track, the few people I've talked to on discord or whatever who know of this song are obsessed - you either know it and love it or don't know of it and thus exist in the before times, because there is only before Un-Normal and after Un-Normal. I'm slowly realising that I just really love it when kpop does jazz because this is another banger along those lines. Now that I think about this kind of takes notes from AEAO, and I know for a fact you love that song, so go give this one a stream.

(3) Joker - Dalshabet

Yes, another Dalshabet song, because THEY DESERVE THEIR FLOWERS. Like 'Someone Like U', 'Joker' also has that jazz-meets-girlpop edge that we love but with a little more sass and spirited confidence. In 'Joker' the girls aren't as much calling for the attention of the audience, but implicitly demanding it. What I would've given to have been a kpop stan when dalshabet were making music. What could have been.

(4) Colors - LOONA

(this is the obligatory reminder that there is a boycott going on against LOONA content to protest Blockberry Creative's actions towards the girls - please stream LOONA music via the twelveM account or the loona podcast on spotify, and dont watch official LOONA content on youtube either. thanks xx)

This is your once a post reminder that I am in fact a die hard orbit, and this track from the '[X X]' album lingers in my playlist month after month, so I had to include it. Filled with airy vocals from the members, distorted vocaloid decorating the background of the soundscape, along with all the classic bells and whistles we know and love from this group, 'Colors' is classic, quintessential LOONA. Give her a (boycott friendly of course) stream, and experience rookie era LOONA in all their glory.

(5) Chiyu - tripleS

This song dropped only a couple of months ago with the rest of the '<ASSEMBLE24>' album, and while the tracklist as a whole was stellar, 'Chiyu' is utterly gorgeous. Ethereal and hypnotic, giving this song a listen late at night with headphones is a deeply spiritual experience. tripleS are really the ones to watch in the 5th generation, and 'Chiyu' makes that blatantly clear. You probably heard the title track 'Girls Never Die', and if you ventured into the realm of the b-sides you probably remember the upbeat anthems like '24' and 'Heart Raider', but if you let this one pass you by, I would highly recommend another listen. This is making it onto my 'best of 2024' list for sure.

[pionas]

if you’re still not sure if you wanna continue with the boycott here’s a reason to continue!

[gwyoi]

other kpop fans can’t stand the fact that orbits did a successful boycott and that’s why everyone is so bitter towards loona ….. like obviously it’s way harder to boycott big companies and one of the saving graces was that BBC had no one else making money while the loona boycott happened but like orbits literally petitioned the courts in Korea

[infizero]

FINALLY getting around to downloading all of loona's music..... i literally havent listened to any of it since the boycott began WHICH IS CRAZY THAT ITS BEEN THAT LONG. i dont know how i survived

[kurikive]

FAAAAWWKKK I LOVE LOONA YALL I CANT DO THIS I FUCKING LOVE LOONA SO MUCH IM OHBIT FOR LIFE

[allfortzu]

another spotify wrapped, another year with twice 🫂🫂

[adobodemon]

Happy Loona Island independence day to all who celebrate

[kimmkitsuragi]

damn. i havent listened to loona since the boycott started basically... i mean i pirated a few songs that one time but like it doesnt even count when u consider i was listening to them on the daily for years... i will just pirate all songs and download them to my laptop and listen atp 😭

[bandzboy]

honestly i'm sick and tired bc we are giving these non boycotters too much leniency when they should be shamed 24/7 for not wanting to participate because yes they are contributing to a huge problem in the music industry (in this case) but the more zionism thrives in the industry, the more normalized it will get! i don't even know how moas are streaming a song that has a zionist producer in it idk how that did not make people be appalled in the first place! you have to be insane to ignore something as severe as this it's hard for me to be compassionate with people that don't wanna boycott at this point because it's obvious and clear as day that they are not shamed enough

[soyeonsbabygirl]

The chokehold Kim lip has me in rn is crazy😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫

Same with Yves the girls are fine and they know it

[loonarii]

saw on twitter that kim lip is narrating the upcoming artms album intro and somehow forgot that she is in fact in artms and was like omg??? loona ot12 tease???? across companies????

[yoohyeon]

Who in their right mind would audition for them in the first place ??? This company completely lost it

[shynmultistan]

How I am suppose to cope with the idea that 7 out of the 12 members are still trapped in BBC and think Orbits are disappointed/dislike them when 99.99% of fandom are willing to burn down their company building if it means maintaining their eternal happiness. Like reading their individual messages on how all they want to do is perform and see us happy despite them enduring the worst treatment known to man and thinking we’ll suddenly give up on them when it’s literally none of their faults in the first place that any of the mess happened AND THEN BBC deliberately letting things like their FAB contract expire so the remaining girls have eVEN LESS CONTACT WITH US IN THE FIRST PLACE CAUSE THEY KNOW THAT THATS A THE MAIN REASON THE GIRLS ARE STILL STICKING TOGETHER AT ALL—