#like taylor said in the interview

[userparamore]

the way hayley talked about thick skull at webster made me so emotional. So much paramore hate that’s not about their music always stems from 50% misinformation and 50% misogyny that’s targeted to hayley alone. I’m glad that she said that she’s not as hard on herself now. She’s just so much nicer than me cause if the majority of the public thinks I was to blame for something Josh farro did then I would be the most evil person on earth 

i also really loved that part of the interview! the interviews this album cycle for some reason have been so focused on the past, and the drama that has happened within the band and the forming of the band. it's like you said anon, it's always 50% misinformation and 50% misogyny targeted towards hayley. i'm glad hayley finally feels like she's ready to talk about this, and how the hate and misogyny in the scene affected her when she was only a teenager/young adult. the way she's spoken about it lately- it's always with grace and i appreciate that. i understand that it's a difficult topic to talk about, not just for her, but for all women in music. it doesn't matter what you say, you'll get hate either way.

i'm also glad she's not as hard on herself anymore, and i really hope that one day she'll feel comfortable enough to write a book or something like she said in the interview. i think it would be a really interesting, not only as a paramore fan, but to have an inside look at the scene. a scene that's now having a resurgence and being kind of romanticized- which i honestly don't think it should be. like hayley and gerard way talked about at wwwy, let us not drown in the nostalgia.

[artemispt]

Lando don’t look at Carlos challenge

[wavesoutbeingtossed]

Randomly thinking about “tolerate it” (narrator voice: it was not random) and how under the cloak of fiction it is ostensibly inspired by works like “Rebecca” (which Taylor said she read during the 2020 lockdowns I believe?), with the line of “you’re so much older and wiser” indicating that the speaker is significantly younger and inexperienced compared to the person she’s speaking to and a pretty direct reference to the plot of the book.

But I saw something somewhere once that stuck with me about how it might not be referring to relative age between the characters but chronological age as in the passage of time in a relationship. And that made me think about how in a contemporary context, it might not necessarily be referencing an actual age gap between the two characters, but rather a sarcastic or cynical response to the man’s claims that he has matured (“you’re so much older and wiser [than you were before/than you were when we met/etc.]”), which then made me think about that line in relation to the woman. And that it could be taken like, “you act like you’ve matured so much in our time together and like you know everything, while I’m supposedly still stuck as the girl I was when we first met.”

Which then made me think of the “right where you left me” of it all and did you ever hear about the girl who got frozen time went on for everyone else she won’t know it and the bit in Miss Americana where she talks about how celebrities get frozen at the age at which they got famous, and how she’s had to play catch up in a lot of ways not just in her emotional growth but kind of in general. (Which also made me wonder if she’s ever been called out for immaturity/lack of curiosity/lack of education about things in her life…)

Which then made me think about the rest of the song, and @taylortruther’s posts yesterday about “seven” and “Daylight” and the way Taylor idealizes her youth yet contrasts it with an almost sinister reality in its wake, and the line, “I sit by the door like I’m just a kid,” because the discussion raised that her relationship let her recapture some of the childlike joy and wonder she’d lost. So this line is a double-edged sword: the speaker sits by the door with childlike hope that the person will come home and cherish her, but on the darker side, feels like the child dealing with the monsters she doesn’t have names for yet and the feelings of isolation she felt as she aged.

I’m not saying the song is necessarily autobiographical; like most of the songs on folkmore, it’s clearly a fictionalized story based on media she’d consumed and created, but we know a lot of the fictional songs were infused with her own feelings and experiences and… This idea swirling in my head picked up steam and now I kind of can’t stop thinking about it. Sorry but I’m a little obsessed now.

Like maybe it might start to shed light on why she identified so strongly with the novel in the first place…

[leothil]

Not to pull seniority, but Oliver has always spoken respectfully about his ongoing LI's to media. It's been on his private socials he's been more free with his opinions - and that changed during S6 when he remade his ig (again) and stopped sharing as many personal selfies and spontaneous stories.

[ohdorothea]

I do think it’s wild Taylor for real put in a song that she’s sick of the 1950’s shit people expect from her and there are still fans convinced she’s about to retire forever to have children and be a housewife like are we listening to the same songs????

[pardonmydelays]

huh

[not-the-coffee-machine4]

“Guns N Roses shouldn’t have been at the FMTC” this and “why were Guns N Roses even invited after the homophobia blah blah”

IT WAS ON PURPOSE. THEY WERE INVITED ON PURPOSE. ROGER. DID IT. ON. PURPOSE. And put him with Elton ON PURPOSE. To bridge that gap and it WORKED.

Axl Rose and Elton John practically held hands singing Bohemian Rhapsody in front of the entire world and if you watch Roger’s face in the background you can tell he knows his mission was accomplished

[superstartaylorsversion]

yes taylor is happy in a relationship and she and ed are just friends and ed is married etc etc etc BUT in my mind it was and still kind of is about sweeran. Like… everything has changed is about ed. tenerife sea is about taylor. I genuinely think they may be a case of perfect timing perfect person but it just… didn’t happen. If alternate universes do exist there is one where they got together in 2012 and that was it. when ed said that taylor would be there if everything ended for him my brain SNAPPED. I am like haylor levels of sick over sweeran you guys don’t get it

[spideyhexx]

have we considered that he likes shaving his head but won't do it of his own accord. this is all his master plan

pls😭😭😭😭he’s like now is my CHANCE

[itspileofgoodthings]

that Bobby Bones interview with Taylor where he claims that the cookies she gave him made him sick and she tells him to stop lying is my Roman Empire because I can’t stop thinking about how, while keeping it still lighthearted enough for interview etiquette, she unequivocally shuts down his gaslighting and despicable toad behavior.

[h-f-k]

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[taylorhawkins]

dave navarro spitting facts about what an incredible musician/artist/lyricist taylor is

taylor: *fart noises* I have horrible gas though!

[dancingonmoonbeams]

Clocking in for another shift at the defending Rachel Zegler from weirdos online factory

[wavesoutbeingtossed]

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[zainmalik]

Omg I really detest TS for her white feminism (called it back in 2015 and *gasp* she still hasn't changed!) but thanks to her Joe is now getting even more hate and I'm like??? Wtf has that man done? It's a crime he saw her red flags and didn't want to marry her? Idk that man but I'm about to go support his projects because he seems like an introvert like me and we must stick together! Also hope he turns up kissing boys just to make those swifties mad <3 funny how they didn't have this same energy for when she was dating an actual racist THIS YEAR but sure the man who actually signed a Palestine ceasefire letter while she hasn't done shit is obvs worse 🫢

NO BECAUSE WHAT THE FUCK????? his biggest crime was being an introvert and private person. meanwhile ratty healy is a racist and average crusty white football man joked about looking for a breeder to have children with. oh but joe is the villain right? and taylor is a poor baby who has done nothing wrong in her life 🙄🙄🙄

[dreamly]

i agree with a lot of music fans and journalists/critics/artists that “lockdown”/“pandemic”/“quarantine” albums usually aren’t great and also don’t do very well, but i do think there is one truly incredible (at least in quality i haven’t looked at numbers and tbh i don’t really care) and maybe not the most obvious exception (well maybe it is obvious but i don’t see this album talked about a lot since like the month it came out and i don’t think i’ve seen it talked about in the conversations about art inspired by covid-19/lockdowns). anyway can we play a little game where you guys guess what album it is (this might help me find more good music or at least music you think i’d like as well as be [hopefully] fun!)