#like her reaction was just the greatest bc how could she have seen it?
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Same anon (Angst on the Radio Anon)
Oh Wolf — Goddamn. I've always had it in my head that Chloe punches way above her weight because she just wants to feel something, that song fits this perfectly. She can bark AND she can bite but she'd never do the latter except if she had to. Music vid hits different in the context of LiS too, if you take the ghost as Rachel (because everybody only gets together at weddings and funerals, and Arcadia Bay ain't exactly the place to hold the former)
Cross My Heart — I love how it could be EITHER about Max or Rachel. As much as Chloe plays at being this lone wolf, I think she wants a pack of people to lean on. The song is like a super casual way of saying “please god save me”. Loving the acoustic guitar paired with the raw vocals because it projects power and hides said cry for help
Tongue Tied — "I loved you then and I love you now" is both Chloe on Monday and Max on Loop #576 going on #834.
Cornflower Blue — I keep thinking about E2 and the train, and this quote from Mr. Robot about how “a bullet to the brain is peaceful in its own right”. In that first loop, that train was probably the worst way that Chloe ended up dying, but now it’s like… how much else has she seen, to the point now it's like “as long as I get to love you and have you around, that would not phase me”? And "I want to lay on the kitchen floor with you / I want to do all the things that lovers do" in THIS context? Reads less like "Oh this would be nice", more "I cherish peace with all my heart. I don't care how many men, women, and children I have to kill to get it." Max, you don’t even need therapy at this point, therapy needs to STUDY YOU.
Holy shit, excellent choices. Just found two more for Max now that I’m thinking about it:
Bloody Shirt (Bastille Remix) — To Kill a King (Max Caufield, "light the match and curse my name" era, https://youtu.be/P00kfamddrI?si=zvs7vg2xt4irFxPJ)
The Shepherd's Boy – Murray Gold (if you know, you know, https://youtu.be/fXo47CIUuFg?si=tjpax1QbOvmF1Rf0)
This is fun!
glad i could share the absolute gut punch that is Cornflower Blue with someone bc it Haunts and Torments me <3
tbh the entire second verse wreaks havoc on my brain. like. "the days they fly like trains go by / i'm on my way home to you / and i think about if they ran me down, baby what would you do?" + "in the morning i'll love the mangled bits of you / i'll love you when your lips turn cornflower blue" + "i love you til i wear you out / then i love you more'' oughghghg. tfw you're a creature of desperation & longing and your greatest work of art is suffering untold horror ad nauseam in the name of protecting someone you love <3 as you so wonderfully put it Max doesn't just need therapy anymore therapy needs to study her <3 <3 <3
also "I loved you then and I love you now" is both Chloe on Monday and Max on Loop #576 going on #834. you Get me. you Understand me
also also, real footage of my reaction to seeing The Shepherd's Boy
#also also Also bloody shirt!! how did i miss that in my recent bastille craze#it's too late to say you're sorry say you're sorry still!! i stepped out with heavy heart to bail you out again!!!!! AAAAAAAA#this town is only gonna eat you!!!!!!!#I'm Normal About It.#big fan of ur song analysis btw 10/10 good shit good shit#and shdgfkjsfhsjdhsk how Dare u bring dw into this don't test me i've been watching way too much and wanting to redraw so many quotes. ouhg#nova answers
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Hal had lingered for far too long, and you just weren’t in the mood for him. Sending him off with a couple of ham and cheese sandwiches.
Well shit. Now I look like a clown for going off about her not making sandwiches for Halle Berry last time 😭
It was infuriating how he waited to have dinner with you. Even if you weren’t eating with Cole, eating alone was just fine by you.
This is straight out of my teenage diary 😅
UGH, why are mom and dad always making us eat together as a “family”🙄🙄🙄 so gross I’d literally rather eat in my room ALONE. No one understands me 😒
And ok, bc I made a commitment to stick with my candidate (and I guess fellow scorpio), here we go:
How is this infuriating? Isn’t it polite to wait for ur host before eating? Even as a formality? If someone is coming an hour late to the sleepover, we will have some small snacks and wait to eat pizza later TOGETHER as a squad, instead of letting Lisa eat pizza alone in the corner while we argue over who would be which Spice Girl in our friend group
Cole was forward, but not too crass.
Sis he pushed u in the above average creek 😭😭😭
It was only the first day of summer and there was a man coming to pick you up
Brain: Is it just me or does this sound very ominous
Me: it’s just us. Bc u see “a man”, and think “The Man” (like, the government), and our knee jerk reaction is to “stick it to the Man”.
Brain: oh I see, so when I read this sentence, what I’m actually thinking is “it was only the first day of summer and the government agent had somehow managed to track me down. Ot was only a matter of time before he found the safe house, but I’m ready - I’m not going back to jail, even if it comes down to a shootout at high noon” 🤠
Me: basically
Not some boy that assumed you would cater to his every whim, but a man
Dude he just wanted a sandwich 😭🥺🥺
He made you feel seen and not gawked at.
Can we review that footage from above average creek tho bc I think some gawking happened
Surely the mundane day to day life in Johnsontown was stifling your creativity,
Not me reading this as Jones Town and being like girl, u are in for a wild ride 😅
Hearing the soft knock on the door, and harsh howl of Loretta
Get him Loretta!!! Go for the jugular! 👹👹👹
and Loretta backs away from him
I’m going to trust the dog’s instincts on this one 😤😤😤 also what’s this mofos zodiac sign huh??? Better not have more friendship stats with Loretta than me 😒
he holds up a crude bouquet of wildflowers
Me: Keep your fucking weeds bro 😒 (lol if Loretta isn’t going to be vicious, I’ll be vicious enough for the both of us 👹)
Loretta sniffs the floor until she reaches him, giving his feet a quick smell before sitting in front of him.
Nooooooo Loretta 😭
Dogs are too pure 😖😖😖 she doesn’t understand he’s a person that drinks coke with peanuts
⚠️NOTE: lmao so I did a quick read through after I finished writing the comments, and like, I definitely go off the rails here. Not like in a rambling tangent way, but in a “death of the author” way.
Idk if I’m just high key paranoid and distrusting, but for some reason I kept hearing the jaws music in the back of my head lol 😂
So after I wrote it I was like, wait is this rude??😬😬😬 Should I delete?? Bc if I wrote a comedy for example, and everyone came out being like “wow greatest horror film since Psycho”, I might feel not good haha. Even if they had a positive response, I might be bummed out that it wasn’t interpreted the way I wanted/intended.
But then I thought idk, maybe this could be interesting in some way? 🤔🤔🤔Like to see the reasoning behind someone’s personal reaction, even if it’s off the mark?
TL;DR I got psychological thriller* vibes from this chapter when I think I was supposed to get either warm and fuzzy or horny vibes lol.
So, if u want to walk a couple blocks in my shoes, I guess keep on reading, and if not, see u next chapter?? Haha
*like, a GOOD psychological thriller too. Not like how Tommy Wiseau’s “The Room” is unintentionally hilarious and has ppl laughing at the film instead of with it. If someone gave me this chapter without context and told me it was in the genre of stuff like “Fatal Attraction” or “Dangerous Liasons” or “Cruel Intentions”, I wouldn’t for a second doubt it.
🦈🦈🦈
“You live with your parents?”
STRANGER DANGER!!!
the correct response is: ya, I live with my parents, our SWAT team of security guards, and 87 attack dogs.
“They’re gone all summer.”
For real tho like why would u tell someone this??? Am I paranoid? I would not tell anyone this. Maybe he’s not a psycho killer, but he could be a burglar??? A bandit??? A dog thief???? An Amazon package stealer?? A prankster that will replace the filling in your Oreo cookies with toothpaste????
“You’re alone now. Does that scare you?”
Who asks this kind of stuff?? This is the question ppl ask to covertly assess your alertness level and safety precautions. 😰
I mean, who is the killer going to go for, the person that says, “nah, I’m not scared, I don’t even lock my door hahah”
Or the person that says “ya I triple check all the doors and windows, make sure the alarm is turned on every night, and sleep with both eyes open and a grenade between my teeth”
Is it different in small towns? Do y’all not grow up with adults constantly warning u not to approach strangers in cars, or to be very suspicious if someone asks you to come help “find their lost dog”?
I love my parents. I get along with them. They leave me alone, and let me live my life.
Do they rly let u live your life tho? Like why was ur mom talking about grandkids with Hal then huh?
“Would it have something to do with that notebook you were writing in when I met you?” You stare at him dumbfounded and he shrugs, “I’m observant. And currently, I enjoy watching you.”
Am I honestly crazy or does everything this guy says scream, DO NOT TRUST. HE’S ASKING TOO MANY QUESTIONS. But then I’m also like, I think this is supposed to be romantic tension???? 😂😂😂
idk… if someone was like “yeah I’ve noticed u always use fountain pens”, I’d be looking around for a large, unmarked van every time I went outside 😳
And doesn’t “I enjoy watching you” not make the hairs on the back of your neck stand up??? I’m getting up to do a full sweep of my apartment rn tbh. That’s some stalker talk.
These are examples of things that are acceptable to enjoy watching
Cat vids
People. In groups. In Paris. Outside of a cafe. With a coffee
Paint drying
The Kardashians (both on Keeping Up and their new Hulu (?) show)
Things that are NOT ok to enjoy watching
Water boiling (bc it won’t 😒)
YouTube ads (on principle, u should force urself to hate these)
An individual person (outside the context of them doing a confessional on a reality tv show)
Any form of Logan Paul content
He steps closer to you, but never touches you.
Jab his eyes out!! Omg. This is the intro to sooo many kidnapped/taken hostage scenarios, like when the killer is slowly moving towards u and u are slowly backing away until ur back hits the wall 😫😫😫
Someone should not be in your personal space like this??? It’s a threatening power move???
Dude, unless we are like doing some kind of irl chess LARP thing and I’m the king peice, u should not be within 3 squares of me. Take several steps BACK BRO ✋✋✋
“I figured the roll around in the water, that kiss, and the fact that I made you dinner was enough to explain why.”
Sinister AF 😖😖😖Ok, after the words went thru the processing centre in my mind, the scene is this: u are alone with the kidnapper and ur like “why are u doing this to me?? Why meeee (very Nancy Kerrigan post kneecap attack*) What do u want??”
And they’re like “I think u know what I want. Didn’t u see the roses I left u? The poems I wrote?“
😵😵😵
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What the author writes:
“You’re fascinating. You didn’t go to college just to earn your MRS degree,”
“You didn’t just go to college to find a husband. You’re perfectly content in being you. Not being entranced by a balding preacher who just wants you to be barefoot and pregnant while you wait on him hand and foot. Hoping that a marriage would clear his philandering ways.”
What my brain sees:
you roll your eyes, and pull at his hand, but once again, he proves his strength, becoming unmoving,
Dude, this is PEAK HORROR MOVIE 😳😳. The girl is nervously trying to laugh it off like hahaha stop being silly, and the guy is deadass stone cold serious and standing his ground like a predator that knows he has u trapped 😰😰😰
“You never dated Bill?” You shake your head no, “And who’s helping you out with the farm?”
First he comes in with his handful of weeds and is like “awww a puppy!!” So u let your guard down and invite him in, and then he goes all Jekyll and Hyde 😵💫
“So there is someone. And no, I’m not jealous. Just want to let you know, I don’t date around. I don’t have time, and quite frankly, it’s exhausting to have to carry on the same conversation with multiple women, and try to keep up with details. I date one woman.”
Also, I feel like anytime people start a sentence with “I’m not….”, they definitely are what they claim not to be lol.
“I’m not trying to be rude, but this chicken is really dry”
Like ok??? Then don’t fucking eat it Karen 😠
Also, she never asked for any of this info? He just started villain monologuing out of nowhere?? 😫😫😫 why is he telling her this???
Look, as someone who is very accustomed to doing long pre-ambles to idk, minimize whatever problematic shit I’m about to say, this is definitely a disclaimer someone would say to cover their ass about some type of questionable behaviour.
He’s like, low key accusing her of idk, being some kind of floozy? And then laying down the rules like, “this is how I operate, get with it, or get stabbed 15 times in the chest”
“it’s exhausting to have to carry on the same conversation with multiple women, and try to keep up with details”
Big incel vibes rn😥 dude, no one is making u do any of this lol😭😭
That’s like me saying omg so exhausting to have to read through my 47 spam emails from random things I subscribed to years ago 😫 like, I could just not read those emails?? And if he could just like not have multiple pans on the fire at once or whatever it’s called when u have several schemes running simultaneously???
he’s like the angry guy who complains about how annoying it is to do this and that to impress women and it’s like no one asked u to do that man… u did that to yourself lol and now u are mad bc it didn’t work out
😓
Also, carrying on similar conversations with multiple ppl and keeping track of the details? That’s not a big ask! That’s what ppl do every day irl when they make friends or meet new people. Or like, talk to co-workers lmao.
And ya, I get that small talk can be exhausting, i also have a barely functioning social battery, but I’m not going to act like it’s a huge burden. Literally every one has to do this in life. And honestly, if having to chit chat with a few people and keep up with details like their hobbies and interests, is such a big hassle, consider urself lucky that’s the most exhausting part of your life lol. Some people don’t even have sandwiches to eat out there 😭😭😭
Also, maybe don’t expect it to be easy to find a date if u hate the process of dating? What, are women just supposed to want to date u without going through the initial what do u do for work, do u like hiking, what’s your family like, etc?
He doesn’t want to put in the work of getting to know people??? The heck??? It’s so… “Supreme gentleman” Elliot Rodger 😰😰😰
“Right,” you look away from him, and you feel his unease, although it wasn’t warranted
DAMN RIGHT IT’S NOT WARRANTED
“So you want me?” His lip curls up as he smirks. “So this date isn’t necessary, because you do in fact already want me?”
… this is seems like entrapment lol. Like he’s taking her own words and twisting them to make it seem like she already gave him the go ahead to take things further 😬
It’s very Regina George, “oh u said thanks when I called u pretty? So u agree? U think u are pretty?”😅
“I want something more meaningful than sex,”
Ok YASSS state your expectations, girl
“Who said anything about sex, Bumblebee?” He reaches out a hand, and it hovers over your hip, “Are you uncomfortable with me touching you?”
is he low key gaslighting her??? The whole “this date is unnecessary bc u already want me” was clearly an allusion to sexual desire, but now he’s like “whoa, I never explicitly said that!” So he’s making it seem like SHE’S the one that brought it up, when she was only saying what he was implying in the first place 😭😭😭
this is like when the lawyer cross examining u asks all sorts of leading stuff like “did u hate this person? Wouldn’t u benefit from their death? Haven’t u said in the past everything would be better when if they weee gone”
And u clearly see where this is going to u try to pre-emptively avoid the accusation by saying “I didn’t get along with that person but I would never hurt them!”
And then the lawyer is like “ whoa whoa whoa, who said anything about hurting them?? Why would u bring that up?” To make u seem like the guilty party when they just set u up
🫠
“No,” your voice croaks out. His hand presses on your hip, and he gently shushes you.
Just bc she said she’s not uncomfortable with u touching her doesn’t mean she’s giving u permission tho?? I’m not uncomfortable w donating blood but like, don’t tackle me at Starbucks and slit my throat u know??? 😬😬😬😬
It has to be on her terms😠😠😠
“I need you to breathe.”
1.) He makes her feel uncomfortable
2.) She gets nervous
3.) He gets to act like the rational person here lol like “hey, calm down”, as if she’s doesn’t have a legit reason to be nervous
U know what… all this is going into my cop Cole = peanut man conspiracy FACTUAL EVIDENCE folder bc these are some hard boiled interrogation tactics fr
🤔
“Just breathe. We’re just talking. But I need to know, so I don’t cross a line, are you saving yourself for marriage or something?”
“Just talking” 🙄🙄🙄 ok but like telling the Taco Bell employee you’re going to strangle them with their own intestines if u have to wait another minute for ur order is also “just talking”
🤷♀️
And then he has the audacity to be like “just so I don’t cross a line”. Dude, u crossed that line ages ago. U are at the bottom of this page of lined paper.
I mean, this isn’t a bad convo to have, but he kind of just put her on the spot like that?? Am I wrong??? Am I just traumatized for being randomly called on too many times in class when I didn’t do the homework???
Also, man, u don’t “need to know” in order to avoid “crossing a line”. I wouldn’t go up to someone and be like “I need to know whether u are ok with me following u around all day, so I don’t cross a line” Lol, why don’t u just like, keep urself from crossing that line on your own??
Let’s say the line is having sex. Could he not just like, ask for her consent when it gets to that point? Why does he need the consent up front?? And even if he gets it up front, she is still entitled to change her mind later on.
So really, no point in getting your line crossing license now, bc that shit expires immediately. 😐
Bumblebezos gave him a genuine answer and was clear about her expectations, but yikes. U in danger girl.
“Okay. No pressure. Let’s go on our date. Is this your first one?”
NOOooo. he does not get to do all that and then be like “haha cool, no pressure” and flip the nice guy switch back on. He just pumped her for some very personal info that he “needed” to know, and then wants to pretend like he didn’t just put her through the ringer?? At least he could be like “ty for answering my questions, is there anything u want to ask me??”
Even the most awful of job interviewers will do u that courtesy😵💫😵💫😵💫
But instead he goes straight to stroke my ego city and is like was I the first??? Come on. This isn’t a livejournal post in the early 2000’s, when ppl would clamour to get that “FIRST!!!!11” comment
This isn’t the space race 😭😭 What is it with men and wanting to claim their territory like this??!
“You kissed some boy on the playground, didn’t you? That doesn’t count. I’m trying to go for bingo here with your firsts.”
He’s on a power trip lmaoo. Why does he want to “go for bingo” with her firsts? He’s basically saying he wants the power dynamic in his favour 😥
Plus he’s making up random ass rules? Like, oh that didn’t count, it doesn’t count unless I’m first. 😒
“So, I give that one to me.”
Crown yourself emperor while you’re at it, Napoleon 😤
Any man should be honored to fill up your bingo card.
😬😬 Ok, maybe it’s like a reference to the olden days when they had dance cards so it’s like a cute turn of phrase…
But also maybe it’s that thing that frat guys do where they compete with each other to be like who has been the most sexually adventurous with a girl. 🤨
“I’m only teasing. You're adorable when you get embarrassed. I have a feeling your entire body is heating up.”
🙄It’s like catcalling someone and saying “it was a compliment”, or grabbing someone’s ass as “a joke”. You can’t just make an inappropriate remark and say “only teasing”. 😒😒
“She’s the matriarch, and the oldest daughter of Tommy Mason. She owns the orchard, even though her siblings have some shares in the business. This will eventually be mine.”
What happened to mr “I want ppl to like me for me”, “I want to escape my mother’s maiden name” huh?? Why so braggadocious all of a sudden 🤔🤔🤔
he digs into the picnic basket, producing a very modest dinner. “Mom did this while I was setting this up,” he tells you.
Not him being like “I will provide dinner” earlier and then being like “mom made this” 😂😂😂
“So what did you think about last night when you were in bed? Be honest. I just want honesty. I’ll tell you what I was thinking about.”
EXQUEEEZE ME? Why is she impressed by this? It’s rude as heck. And he always asks in such a weird way…
Saying, “be honest”, so if she doesn’t want to answer then it makes her look like she’s hiding something, when really, she doesn’t have to share any of these details with him lol. It’s like setting her up to either tell him the info he wants, or appear to be secretive.
COP INTERROGATION 101 🚨🚨🚨 I know all the tricks ok, I’ve seen them 👀
. Here’s another one: someone says they are ESL and can’t communicate with the cop, and the cop thinks it’s BS, so they say like “oh hey, is that your wallet/keys/whatever on the ground there?” (while gesturing to some spot on the floor), and if the person looks then the cop is like “GOTCHA! u understand me perfectly well, I’m going to note that you lied to an officer” but like, idk, if I was arrested in Italy by an Italian speaking cop and they asked me a question (u can tell it’s a question even if u don’t understand the language bc change in intonation at the end of the sentence), and then gestured to the ground somewhere, I would look too? Like maybe he’s giving an instruction idk, I just want to avoid a baton to the face lmao
Also, I feel like peanut man would never talk like this to another guy. Not just the innuendo stuff, but the phrasing and everything.
“What pizza toppings did you get bro, be honest. I’ll tell u what toppings I got too”
😒
“You wanted honesty. But I also wondered what you would feel like laying under me.
I cry lol 😂 he’s like saying she wants honesty too so he has an excuse to overshare his fantasies.
Like, I DO want honesty from people, but I also DONT want unsolicited info. Men, pls keep your honest descriptions of your dick to yourselves ok 😒 the only person u should share that with is your doctor and only if they ask u to 😫
Also, being “honest” and saying “honestly” doesn’t give u carte blanche to say whatever. “Honestly Becky, I think about slapping u in the face all the time. Just being honest with u 😘”
“Good. I’ll try to keep my thoughts of you a bit more tame, unless you don’t want me to,” you don’t know how to answer, so you just nod your head. “I see. Maybe your thoughts will become more sinful, too. Don’t be afraid to act on those thoughts. Sometimes self discovery is more important than me discovering you. And I’ll only push you as far as you want me, too, okay?”
FUCKING MASTERFUL.
can we get a slow mo replay of that like they do in sports??
First, he says he’s going to try to keep his thoughts more tame
This establishes HIM as the chaste one, like he’s making the effort to keep it PG, like he didn’t say all that other innuendo stuff earlier
Then, he adds “unless u don’t want me to”
It puts her on the spot, he’s basically asking her give him permission to go wild with his fantasies
Q: If she says ya pls keep it PG, is he really going to refrain from thinking whatever about her??
A: No way in hell, but he created this illusion of choice to make it seem like she has control over something like HIS THOUGHTS
so since she’s on the spot, she just nods which I feel like is more a nod of acknowledgment than a real answer to his question ☹️
Then he subtly encourages her to have spicy thoughts as well
It’s like “maybe u will think of a pink elephant… maybe not…but maybe u will, who knows”
Like now that u brought it up, of course she’s going to think about it 🙄
but him throwing that “maybe” in there will make her think that she came up with those thoughts herself, when he really just prompted her
“Don’t be afraid to act on those thoughts”
… do we really think he’s saying this to help her feel empowered?? Or is he just trying to get his dick wet
From everything she said before (well, maybe he doesn’t remember bc it’s so “exhausting” for him to have to keep up with details), she seems pretty empowered already
She already told him she knows what she wants, and she isn’t going to be pressured by the town to become the traditional wife/mother that they want her to be
He doesn’t need to tell her don’t be afraid, but him saying it makes him seem so progressive and forward thinking
Like, is it a coincidence that the person who benefits the most from her acting on those thoughts is HIM?? 😒
At the same time it’s patronizing; she doesn’t need your permission dude
“Sometimes self discovery is more important than me discovering you”
And like, if your self discovery opens the door for me discovering you, that’s just a bonus, an not my original intention at all!! 🫠🫠🫠
WOW. He would do well to start a cult, bc that is some skillful bs
would he be happy for her if she did all her self discovery and was like “actually, I don’t want u”, or “actually, I prefer to get off on my own”??
… Pretty sure he wouldn’t be like “great! My job here is done! I’m off to empower another young lady!”
He would be pissed, or at least disappointed that her “self discovery” wasn’t her discovering that she wants to be physically intimate with him 🙄
“I’ll only push you as far as you want me to”
And how exactly is he going to know how far she wants him to push? Bc it seems like he decides how far he wants to push and then convinces her to let him.
But saying this makes it seem like he’s giving her total control when he knows damn well he has her eating out of the palm of his hand 😵💫
“As long as I’m the one you’re practicing with. We can even try sitting down, or laying down making out. It’ll really make you feel things.
What happened to all that self discovery rhetoric huh?? What if she self discovers that she wants to kiss other people??
And he was all “no pressure”, but then presents her with a bunch of options that she’s now going to feel like she SHOULD try bc he suggested them
And there was something that made you want to continue to make Cole proud. And that’s just what you would do. Hoping for that confirmation from him.
Lady, this is exactly how everyone in the town wants u to be 😓
So she ends up back where she started, in the submissive role she didn’t want in the first place, but now it’s better bc it’s on her terms? Or she THINKS it’s on her terms at least 😖😖😖
Sheeeesh 😮💨😮💨😮💨 I think I got it like a weeks worth of cardio there just from fear alone 😂.
Anyway from a scale of 1-10, with 1 being totally rational interpretation, and 10 being like, u need more tin foil for that hat?? How delusional am I? 😵💫
Potentially relevant facts:
idk if u had to read “Great Expectations” at school, but the way Ms. Havisham basically raised Estella with a STRONG “men ain’t shit” philosophy is pretty close to my own upbringing haha. My whole family is very like, STEP ON HIM, matriarchal, etc.
I went to this tiny… Scottish themed all girls school from k-12 that was veerrry heavy handed with the female empowerment rhetoric (fun facts: we had “clans” like the houses in Harry Potter, some kind of ceremony involving bagpipes every month, our prefects had their own special tartan kilts, our Head Girl (like class president I guess?) had a special ceremonial dress uniform with a codpiece and a dagger in her sock)
In the summers, I was sent to this all girls camp in Algonquin park for 4-6 weeks (kind of like a national park where u can call and stuff and it’s up North isolated from cities) where we canoed, and swam, and basically lived like pioneers. And we also had a uniform, and had to do this weird yoga flag salute every morning. All the camp counsellors were women and literally the only males were: kitchen/cleaning staff, groundskeepers, maintenance workers, a guy that brushed/fed the horses and scooped the poop, and when we went on camping trips there was always one dude who accompanied us to carry the bulkiest equipment, do the heavy lifting, and make our food/set up the fire so we could have fun playing in the forest lmaooo (I distinctly remember one time our group was bored so we just made mud balls and threw them at him for fun, and then at night we threw rocks at his tent and he couldn’t do jack bc the counsellor was technically in charge and she didn’t discipline us lol. It was truly a utopia up there😌)
All this to say, sometimes I feel like I was molded in a certain way, but then I think about it and I’m like… but men actually ain’t shit so was I indoctrinated with this girl power stuff, or was I just being prepared for the real world???
Stained Like Georgia Clay, Part 3
Summary: Cole has something special planned for you
Pairings: Cole Turner X Reader
Rating: 🥰
Warnings: bit of teasing, beginnings to a praise kink, age gap, 18+ ONLY
Word Count: 3.1K
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(I’m sorry that this is a literal Christmas in July fic, but Joon in the P2D reaction video has got me feeling all sorts of ways so enjoy this very self-indulgent little drabble!!)
pairing: namjoon x reader / word count: 2.5k / genre: holiday au, roommates/friends to lovers
summary: Would kissing your best friend under some mistletoe really be the worst thing in the world?
tags: mild angst but mostly bc of misunderstandings, reader and Joon should have probably just talked about it, Vmin are obnoxious and meddle as a plot device
Thankful for @tae-bebe (in general but particularly for always reading every stupid fic I come up with). Tagging @taehyungsupremacy @taejinnies @hazeltae @jinjagi @flowerkth just in case u wanna read but u don’t have to!!
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“Joon.”
She knocked softly on his bedroom door at first, then knocked a bit harder when she didn’t hear any movement from the other side. She finally turned the handle, pushing it open a crack.
“Joon, get up,” she called into the dark room.
She stepped back, leaving the door open in hopes that he’d wake up enough with the hall light shining through, but she didn’t have high hopes. Namjoon was a deep sleeper. Despite being friends for years, she hadn’t known that about him until they’d moved in together for money’s sake a few months prior. She’d been surprised about it, actually, because he was the only person she knew who got everything done that he wanted to do in a day. She’d just assumed he didn’t sleep at all.
When a few minutes passed and she heard no sound from the direction of the hall, she let out a heavy sigh. It wasn’t his fault - they’d both been up late the night before. It had been their turn to be the hosts for their friend group’s annual early December Christmas party, and while the night had been fun - it always was - she was exhausted. She hadn’t drank too much, so she wasn’t incredibly hungover and for that she was grateful, but cleaning up bottles and garbage at 7am still wasn’t high on her list of things to do on a Saturday morning.
She forced herself to stand up from where she’d practically sunk into the couch, empty garbage bag clutched in her hands. She supposed she could have started cleaning up without him, but she really had no motivation. She needed him for that. She knocked on his bedroom door again before opening it even more, slowly, and was surprised but pleased to find her friend in a vertical position.
“Come on, Joon. You promised you’d help.”
She ignored the way her heart fluttered in her chest as he nodded, shooting her a thumbs up with one hand and rubbing the sleep out of his eye with the other. God, she’d never get over how good he always looked, even first thing in the morning. She stopped herself from letting her eyes wander downwards, to where his upper body was on full display. She’d seen him shirtless many times before, but she still had to stop herself from ogling every time. Especially when he’d just woken up and looked like everything she’d ever dreamed of. She’d been in love with him for a while, and living with him while they both tried to save up money had not been her greatest idea.
He slid his legs over the side of the bed, turning to grab a shirt from the floor. She quickly turned around, hearing his footsteps as he followed. He suddenly groaned from behind her, and she turned back to face him, eyebrows raised in slight irritation. He had promised to help her clean up - why was he complaining? She almost bumped into him as she spoke.
“I know you’re hungover, Joon, but so am I. Everyone else left, and I really need your help-“
Namjoon shook his head, cutting her off. He motioned upwards, and her rant was cut short as she looked up in surprise to find a very familiar green plant with red berries, with a white note attached to it, hanging above the two of them in Namjoon’s bedroom doorway.
Her heart skipped a beat. How had she not noticed it before?
Namjoon had pulled the note off in a flash, catching it between his fingers. He read the words, and she could have sworn he was blushing. He handed it to her wordlessly, and she furrowed her brows at his reaction before reading it for herself.
For the lovebirds. You’d better actually do it this time. - Jimin (and Taehyung!!) xxxxxxxxx (for all the kisses we hope you’re getting)
She rolled her eyes before tossing the offending note into the garbage bag in her hands.
“They suck,” she said, as casually as she could manage for how much she was internally freaking out.
Their friends had been leaving mistletoe everywhere for the entire beginning of December, and it was always conveniently placed near her and Namjoon. At Jungkook’s place during movie night, a magical piece of mistletoe had been spotted on the back of the couch where she and Namjoon were sitting. (She’d hastily snatched it away and thrown it directly at Taehyung, who had spent the next week whining about his sore eye.) At Jin’s “Bougie Christmas Cocktail Smackdown Eve” (where they’d all been required to dress up and Jin wore a name tag that said “Gin” while he served obnoxiously named Christmas-themed cocktails), sprigs of mistletoe had been dropped in their drinks (and only theirs). (She’d asked Jin if that was safe to do that and he’d brushed her off, saying love would save her if it came to that. She’d told him that her drink tasted awful and that he should stick to his day job.)
Each time, she tried to pretend her heart wasn’t racing at the idea. She’d long since accepted that being in love with her best friend was unrequited. She just really wished their friends would stop. Her heart couldn’t take much more of Namjoon brushing off the idea of kissing her so easily with a laugh or a shake of his head.
She had tried so hard not to love him, but it was impossible. When he was… him. It had already been hard, but it was extra hard when she saw him everyday. When he was currently in their shared living room in a t-shirt and sweats, his reading glasses perched on his nose as he helped her clean up from the Christmas party they’d thrown the night before.
She watched as he grabbed a couple of empty bottles from the side table by the couch before turning back to her own task, and it was silent between them until he spoke up.
“I’m sorry.”
She knew exactly what he was referring to, and she inwardly groaned. She really didn’t want to talk about it.
“I don’t know why they keep doing that,” Namjoon continued with a frown.
Y/N had to force herself to ignore the way her heart sank at his obvious disapproval of the idea. They’d never spoken directly about it until now, but she supposed they had to at some point. Why not now, when she was hungover and wanted nothing more than to curl up in his arms for a cuddle? Sure. As good a time as any.
“Yeah, I don’t know.” She shrugged, continuing to collect empty bottles. She tried to straighten her shoulders as she felt the quiet settle around them, trying to act as normal as possible. She could feel Namjoon watching her, and she suddenly wished he wasn’t able to read her as well as he could.
“Are you alright?”
A warm hand found her shoulder, and she could feel the emotions beginning to boil over. Not now, Joon, please. She wracked her brain to try and figure out a way to ask him to stop - to stop touching her, to stop comforting her, to stop caring about her the way that he did. She didn’t know how much longer she could handle it. Not when he so obviously didn’t know how she really felt.
His fingers began to gently massage the crook where her neck met her shoulder, an action that was so natural between them at this point. She squeezed her eyes shut. “I’m fine, Joon.”
She moved away, his hand falling as she headed into the kitchen. She could imagine the hurt on his face as she did, as she brushed off his attempt at comforting her, and she hastily set her collection of bottles on the counter. She’d hoped, prayed for a breather in the kitchen, but she’d known it wouldn’t work. He’d followed her in like she���d known he would, and as he moved to lean against the counter beside her, she busied herself by reaching under the sink to grab the recycling bin. His eyes followed her every movement, and she wanted to dissolve into the floor. He watched her, careful, before he finally spoke up.
“Y/N, again... I’m sorry that the guys won’t stop-“
Her fingers tightened around the bottle she was placing in the bin, and it was then that she finally allowed her eyes to squeeze shut. It was no use.
“Namjoon.” She cut him off, her voice barely above a whisper. She felt him turn his head abruptly at the use of his full name, and she could picture his face even with her eyes closed. Head tilted, arms crossed, eyes soft… always ready to listen to whatever she had to say. Her heart broke a little. “Please.”
He was quiet for a second, and she turned to him now, eyes open, gathering whatever courage she had left. His eyebrows were furrowed, unsure, and she cursed the confusion she found on his face. Namjoon was never a man lost for the right words, but she could tell he was absolutely at a loss now as he stared back at her.
“You’re telling me it’s fine,” he said slowly, “but I can tell it’s not.” She looked down then, and he took a step forward. “Seriously, I’ll tell them to stop. They know that we’ve never, that we would never-“
“Why do you make it sound like kissing me would be the worst thing in the entire world?”
Her words hung between them as she let the recycling bin hit the floor, a dull thud echoing throughout the room. She could feel her lower lip trembling, and she wanted nothing more than to leave, to pretend this had never happened. But she couldn’t. She’d gone there, and she couldn’t take it back.
“What?” came Namjoon’s dumbfounded response, and she knew that she needed to leave. Now. She didn’t know where she was going, but she needed out.
“I’m gonna go,” was all she managed, turning on her heel. She’d made it about two steps towards the living room when his hand found her wrist.
“Y/N,” he pleaded. He tugged her back around, his eyes widening as he saw the tears welling up in her eyes. His thumb brushed against her skin. “I’m so confused. I never… I didn’t say that! You know that I think you’re beautiful. I didn’t mean to...“
It was her turn to be speechless, eyes wide as she watched her eloquent, well spoken best friend struggle yet again with his words. He dropped her wrist, fingers lifting to run through his hair frustratedly.
“Joon,” she finally said. He looked so confused as to how he’d offended her, and so pained thinking that he had. Her heart swelled.
She didn’t know what she’d been planning on saying as they stared at one another, but as usual, she’d done what she had to do to calm him down. Normally, his nickname coming softly from her mouth worked, and this time was no exception.
She watched his face as his brows furrowed again, his eyes searching hers. She offered him a tentative smile, a peace offering, and the look of relief on his face was enough to calm her down, too. They could get through this. They could move on, and chalk this conversation up to the two of them being hungover and tired of their friends’ bullshit, and he’d never almost find out she was in love with him ever again.
“They’re dumb, Joonie,” she offered. “They just want to use us for their entertainment. I know you don’t actually think I’m repulsive,” she added in an attempt to lighten the mood.
At her words, he was suddenly squaring his shoulders, the look on his face a determined one. Her breath caught in her throat.
“Trust me,” he began, his voice low. “I really wouldn’t mind kissing you. I think I’d rather enjoy it, if I’m honest.”
Her lips parted as all of the breath left her lungs.
“What?”
He smiled a soft, shy smile then, and she suddenly realized that he was nervous. He inhaled a sharp breath before he continued, “I think about it all the time, actually.” He bit his lip as he finished, keeping eye contact though she knew he was embarrassed, for whatever godforsaken reason. “I’m sorry if that’s news to you, or if that’s weird to hear. The guys know how much I like you and they were trying to help, I guess, but I-“
“Kim Namjoon,” she finally managed to breathe out, “I am head over heels for you.”
The silence was deafening, and she watched a million different emotions flicker across his face.
“You-“
“I love you, Namjoon. I’m in love with you.”
“Oh,” came his response, and she couldn’t help but laugh. She looked down, her cheeks flushed, and she couldn’t stop smiling.
She suddenly felt his hand on her face, fingers gently brushing her chin as he tilted her face up to meet her eyes again. He was smiling, too, and she couldn’t believe this was happening.
“If it wasn’t clear, I’m in love with you too,” he said, voice soft. She let out a breath, and his gaze was fond as he pulled her close. Her hand moved to curl around his where it rested against her face.
“Wait.”
He paused, mouth inches from hers, and she was shocked she had the strength to pull away. She grabbed his hand and pulled, leading him back towards the door to his bedroom. He let out a laugh as he realized where she was taking him, and it took all but two seconds of being under the mistletoe for him to pull her in. His arms were around her, his mouth finding hers as he pulled her impossibly closer, and closer, and closer.
He kissed her, warm and soft and full. She was completely dazed as he moved, her mouth finally opening against his as he pressed against her, and her hand moved to find his face. He pulled away first, and it made her heart flutter when she realized how reluctant he was to do so, his grip on her remaining just as firm. He let out a breath, his forehead falling to hers, and neither of them could speak for a moment until he finally let out a, “Wow.”
She couldn’t help but burrow her face into the crook of his neck, suddenly feeling shy, and her entire body fell against his as he moved to hold her against his chest. She could practically feel him beaming as he pressed a kiss to the top of her head before he spoke again.
“I refuse to thank Jimin and Taehyung for this, even though they were right.”
#namjoon x reader#bts x reader#bts fluff#knj fluff#knj fic#namjoon fluff#namjoon fic#bts fic#bts angst#knj angst#oh god i'm nervous#my writing#w: wake up call
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back at you: MINGLING
MINGLING!!!!!! (for this)
I love them, I adore them, I have a playlist for them, I want 200k word epics written about them (and I count making you ship Mingling (apparently!) amongst my greatest achievements).
1. What made you ship it?
Initially, the fact that Mingling is the only MXTX F/F ship I've encountered that has legitimate canonical tension. (I just want MXTX to write a baihe so badly.) I was sorely disappointed that their fight wasn't described in the novel, so my lesbian heart fucking soared when Sha Hualing ended up ripping off Liu Mingyan's veil and had a visceral reaction to how fucking hot she is. Excellent vibes. What a homoerotic scene.
Still, my Mingling love lay dormant for a while, until I ended up analysing Sha Hualing's character for some reason and went, "...wait. She's pretty complex and I really think falling for Liu Mingyan would challenge her in a constructive way." Around the same time, I saw a post on Twitter (sadly now lost due to the fact that I didn't bookmark it) pointing out that the "righteous cultivator defiled by a demon" vibes of Resentment of Chunshan really do go very well with Mingling. That took care of the Liu Mingyan side of things and now I'm a Mingling truther.
2. What are your favourite things about the ship?
I am extremely into ships where the characters challenge each other and make each other grow, and I see a lot of potential for that in Mingling. Sha Hualing imo has a pretty weird attitude to attraction and love that is very tied to her ambition, and Liu Mingyan (the righteous and not unusually powerful human cultivator) might challenge that. On the other hand, Liu Mingyan writes a lot about demon sex but is also stuck in the role of the perfect saintlike innocent girl, and Sha Hualing as her ambitious, confident, sexualised opposite might inspire her. They could fix each other. It's just so soothing to have a ship like this where the characters are women, too.
Also, the more I think about it, the more I am stunned by the amount of Mingling vibes I get from canon?? The scene where they're described as natural opposites destined to face each other! Their Wangxian vibes! Resentment of Chunshan! The fact that Sha Hualing is the only one who has canonically seen Liu Mingyan's face! Mingling canon
3. Is there an unpopular opinion you have on your ship?
I have an endless supply of unpopular opinions about everything, but I'll pick one. (Although "unpopular" is relative when it comes to Mingling bc it's just not a ship that gets a lot of attention. I'll consider the things "popular" that I personally see the most, so I might be biased.)
I see a lot of Mingling where Sha Hualing pursues Liu Mingyan and is aware of and confident in her attraction to her, and I enjoy that a lot, but... I think it would be funnier if Liu Mingyan developed her crush way before Sha Hualing ever thought about Liu Mingyan twice. Think about it! Sha Hualing played an actual memorable role in Liu Mingyan's life, while Liu Mingyan is just a random disciple who lost to Sha Hualing once, completely forgettable when compared to Shen Qingqiu and Luo Binghe, who ruined her Cang Qiong Mountain expedition. My favourite Mingling vibe is "Liu Mingyan had her sexual awakening during her fight with Sha Hualing and has since thought of her as something between 'the evil seductive vixen whose charms I have to withstand/who I am NOT INTO AT ALL I SWEAR' and 'hhggnghgh hot demon'" + "Sha Hualing had no strong feelings towards Liu Mingyan except for a vague bitterness regarding anything Cang Qiong Mountain-related, until she kidnapped her and found out she's A) frustratingly cool B) extremely attractive". They'd both need some time to come to terms with their attraction to each other, and Sha Hualing might catch up even if Liu Mingyan did get a head start, but the point is that I think Liu Mingyan is WAY hornier for Sha Hualing than vice versa for a pretty long time.
#[epistulae ad atticum]#mingling#/thank u for enabling me to speak about mingling#/even more than i already do
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Okay so the Brothers + Dateables reacting to MC who has soulless dead eyes but she’s the sweetest thing. Her eyes are scary and she’s been self conscious about them since she can barely make friends but her actions are so cute and sweet that it juxtaposes her expression (baking with Luke and giving it to the Demons, being polite to everyone, and enjoys cuddling). She has a beautiful smile if they make her happy enough too
omg this is so cute 💖
Warnings - Language
Genre - Fluff
A/N - Luke is platonic bc he's a child
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Lucifer
Being 100% honest, you freak him the fuck out at first
He doesn't like that he can't see what you're feeling all the time
"I'm going to string you up from the ceiling"
👁️👁️
*angrily walks away while his cape (coat? cloak???) thingy catches the wind making it more dramatic*
However 😳
The first time he sees you doing something very sweet, he just melts
He'll try not to make it obvious, but you can clearly tell by the blush on his face
AND IF YOU SMILE FOR HIM
He's gonna have a heart attack you're just too sweet
From that point on, his goal is gonna be to make you smile as much as he can
Also, if you cuddle him, he's gonna die
He loves you so much smhhhhhhh
If you start to feel self-conscious about your eyes, this man is gonna sit you down and give you a lecture about how amazing you are
Mammon
F E A R
He's really mean before he gets to know you
The first time he sees you being really polite to someone, he has to walk away to compose himself
You're just too cute, goddamn it!
And he definitely finds Luke kind of annoying but like if he sees you baking with him, he will cry because omg you're so precious
He loves you so much and he makes sure to remind you of that all the time now
Cuddle him, now!
Bonus points if you smile while cuddling him
He might cry because he just loves you and how sweet you are, and he's upset with himself for judging you at first before getting to know you
Leviathan
He's gonna think of you like some cool anime protagonist who hides who you really are or something like that
He honestly thinks your eyes are really cool
Literally passes out the first time he sees you being sweet
His mind couldn't handle the overload of sweetness he just saw
Rip Leviathan ????-2021 gone but never forgotten </3
Omg and if you cuddle him, he absolutely dies
This man loves you so much omg
He knows about you being self-conscious about your eyes, so he always tries to compliment them every time he sees them :)
Satan
You remind him of one of his favorite book protagonists
He makes you read the series so that he can point out every similarity between you and the protagonist
He thinks your eyes are just neat :)
Heart starts racing the first time he sees you doing something sweet
Loves how polite you are because people in this house need to learn manners smh 🙄💅
If you bake with Luke and give him some of it, he'll be really happy and appreciative
If you feel self-conscious about your eyes, he'll probably remind you that your eyes are like the one book protagonist, and that no matter he'll always care about you :)
Asmodeus
He thinks your eyes are pretty interesting but he doesn't really like how dead they look at first
He'll give you some makeup tips to help brighten up your eyes a little because he knows that you're self-conscious about them
Now speaking of the self-conscious part, after he learns that you're self-conscious about your eyes, he's gonna do everything in his power to make you feel good about them >:)
If he sees you being polite or sweet, he'll probably tackle you and hug/cuddle you be you're so cute
The first time he sees you smile, he's just like (✯ᴗ✯) because your smile is so amazing
"MC~ smile for me more!"
When you're feeling self-conscious, he'll remind you that your eyes are really unique, and unique is good :)
Beelzebub
He thinks your eyes are a little creepy, but he honestly doesn't care
MC: 👁️👁️ Beel: "cool :)"
If he sees you baking with Luke and then you give him some, he's just 😳🤩
Just make sure he doesn't eat raw batter or ingredients while you're baking
He really enjoys how polite you are because a lot of demons can be mean to you, but you still stay polite to them, and he admires that :)
Literally loves to cuddle so much, so as soon as he finds out that you look to cuddle, "it's free real estate"
If someone makes fun of you for your eyes, he will destroy them 💖
Also if you start feeling self-conscious about your eyes or appearance in general, he's gonna do his best to remind you that you look great and he loves you for who you are
Belphegor
His eyes are kinda dead looking too, so you guys have that in common
Really doesn't care that your eyes are like dead and souless
He thinks it's kinda cool
This man is a cuddling master, so if you have desires for cuddles, they will be satiated :)
He's also really clingy though, so you could be trying to bake with Luke, and Belphie will just have his arms around you and be sleeping against your back while you're baking
If you give him something you baked with Luke, he really appreciates it
If you're feeling self-conscious about your eyes, he's kinda just like "don't 💖"
He's not the greatest at offering comfort, but he'll try for you
Diavolo
"WOAH COOL"
Diavolo is like an excitable puppy, so he thinks that your eyes are really neat because he's never actually seen a human with eyes like yours
Loves your manners because people in the Devildom need to learn respect smh
MC: *is polite* Diavolo: Here's my list of reasons that MC is in fact the best exchange student, number one-
If you bake something with Luke and give it to him, he gets really excited about it because people don't give him things that often
This man loves to cuddle so much and will cuddle you anytime that you want
At some point he probably gets in trouble with Lucifer for putting off work to cuddle with you
It's hard to feel self-conscious when Diavolo is literally breathing down your neck telling you about how cool your eyes are, but if you do start to feel self-conscious, he's gonna tell you that he doesn't care that your eyes are dead looking because he thinks that they're unique and cool
Barbatos
Never makes a comment on your eyes
If you ask him about it, he's kinda just like "they're just eyes, what's the problem with them?"
He really enjoys the fact that you're polite
Finally, someone who can show some goddamn manners for once 🙄💅
He doesn't get to cuddle you often because he's so busy, so when he does finally get the chance to cuddle you, he's gonna give you best cuddles he can
If you and Luke bake something and give it to him he's so soft because Luke is like a son to him and you're his lover, so he really appreciates it
After that he wants to bake with you when he has the chance
If you start to feel self-conscious about your eyes he's still just like "they're eyes, I don't understand what the problem is." But he'll do his best to comfort you
Simeon
Simeon is another one who doesn't really make a comment on your eyes
He just doesn't think it really matters that your eyes are dead/souless looking because everyone is unique and special in their own way, and your unique thing is your eyes :)
He likes to cuddle you while he writes because he enjoys the feeling of you being so close
And if you bake something with Luke and give it to him, he'll absolutely just die, he appreciates you so much
He's happy that you spend time with Luke :)
Some demons can be assholes, but he's glad that you're still polite to them
If you ever start feeling self-conscious, this is the man to go to, because he's gonna make you feel so appreciated and loved omg
Luke
At first he thinks that the reason your eyes are like that is because the demons did something to you, but he soon learns that is not the case
He feels bad for jumping to conclusions at first
He's so shocked by the fact that you're polite to demons
"MC, you do realize that you don't have to be nice to those mean demons, right???"
Please teach this boy some manners smh
If you bake with him, he'll be so happy
He's gonna give you all of his tips and tricks for baking, so hopefully you don't mind talking constantly lol
If you feel self-conscious about your eyes, he'll promise to beat up any bullies that are rude to you because of your eyes
Please keep this boy out of trouble omg
Solomon
"Oh goddamn bitch!"
At first you thought he was afraid of your eyes because of his reaction, but no, he actually finds them quite interesting
This motherfucker asks if he can study your eyes 😐
Please, don't let him.
If you and Luke bake him something, he'll be really touched
However, he's also gonna ask if he can bake with you guys next time and for once you're gonna have to be impolite because this man should not be allowed into a kitchen
He likes to cuddle you while he reads up on some magic stuff and studies
He will 1000% have study dates with you all the time :)
If you start to feel self-conscious about your eyes, he's gonna tell you about how unique your eyes are and why he loves them
A/N - Tysm for reading and omg I'm literally about to turn 16 in a few minutes >:)
#obey me shall we date#obey me! shall we date?#obey me!#obey me! one master to rule them all#obey me lucifer#obey me mammon#obey me leviathan#obey me satan#obey me asmodeus#obey me beelzebub#obey me belphegor#obey me diavolo#obey me barbatos#obey me simeon#obey me luke#obey me solomon#obey me headcanons#obey me shall we date headcanons#obey me hcs#lucifer x mc#mammon x mc#leviathan x mc#satan x mc#asmodeus x mc#beelzebub x mc#belphegor x mc#diavolo x mc#barbatos x mc#simeon x mc#solomon x mc
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Hi!! i really wanted to know your thoughts on the culmination of romans arc!! i definitely didnt expect him to stick with his siblings even w logan staring him down and promising a place for him in the company after selling. Even though logans never gonna choose his children over himself, i think him trying to get roman back on his side, demonstrated that ultimately he favored roman and it was never gonna be kendall or shiv. Or it could just have been that logan thought roman was easier to crack lol. I really liked the romangerri bit at the end with gerri essentially siding w logan bc it was best for her and the company, w no loyalty to roman (as she should) and his reaction was very interesting. Also what did you think abt the conversation between logan and roman on the way to the reunion w matsenn, could that have alluded to at the very least non straight roman? I also feel like that conversation and shivs comments leaned very heavily on his mommy issues and could also explain his mountain of sexual issues and his fixation and relationship w gerri. i’ve been dying to know what u thought!!
Hi! Thank you, anon, and oof, I loved Roman's arc across the season and especially I loved how different it was from Kendall and Shiv's fall from grace in s1 and s2 respectively.
I think the show does an incredible job generally about the different ways the Roy siblings have internalised and externalised their father's abuse, while still allowing for certain similarities. In so many ways, s3 re-emphasised that with Kendall and Shiv being a sort of dark mirror to each other, and I think it had this wonderful effect narratively of while the two of them were so fixed on reflecting each other, Roman and Connor both got to grow and contort and really develop and regress in their siblings' blindspots.
By that, I mean there was this sort of space opened up by Kendall being ousted and Shiv being on the backstep and both of them still only viewing each other as competition. That newly opened space gave Roman and Connor the room and the opportunity to step up. I think s4's likely to really drum that home with Connor, but for s3, I think we saw what Roman's capable of (for better and for worse) when he's given both guidance and room out of his siblings' shadow, something he hasn't had since - - well. Maybe ever (or at least since Kendall was in rehab).
I was so nervous going into that last scene in the finale, because I was the same as you! I thought there was a risk thatt he'd betray them (especially with him and Kerry being colour-matched!), but I actually think it makes a lot of sense that he wouldn't. Jesse talked a bit in the Controlling the Narrative segment that it was feeling the weight of support from his siblings that let Roman stand his ground, which I think you can really feel in the scene, but I also think there's this interesting layer to it too where the show's really established two things about Roman. The first is that Roman has really good intuition in a way that none of his other siblings do, and the second is that Roman learns in a way that none of his other siblings do.
Roman's greatest strength is his ability to - - mmm, not shapeshift exactly, because I don't think that's what Roman does, but read people enough to know how to accomodate them and play to their personalities and their interests. He does it with Lawrence as far back as 1.06, and it's a skill we've seen develop across season 2 and season 3, but, importantly, one he really grew confidence in over the back half of s3. He's learnt to trust his instincts because he's increasingly realised his instincts are right.
Add that to the fact that Roman takes away lessons when things blow up in his face (which hilariously neither Kendall nor Shiv do), and I think that final scene felt so authentic to who Roman is. He had both gut instinct telling him not to trust his father, and the benefit of hindsight. He's seen exactly how Logan's gone back on his promises to Kendall and Shiv, he's seen that Logan's word only holds it's meaning in the minute he says it. That it doesn't hold under it's own weight, and when faced with Logan's dishonesty, Roman had instead this immediate and brutally naked honesty between him, Kendall and Shiv to fall back on, and right then? There? That mattered a lot.
And as for Logan and Roman's conversation on the boat heading to Matsson – yeah! I actually kind of love how ambiguous the show is being about it, haha, and I think Shiv hit the nail on the head in the car where she said Logan thinks there's something wrong with Roman. I don't know if Logan even necessarily actually thinks he's gay, especially given what just happened with Gerri – in fact, I think there's probably an argument to be made that Logan's latched onto homophobic insults because at least being gay is something he understands over not being able to have sex. If Roman's fucking men, at least he's fucking, and there are ways around it. Not being able to have sex at all, especially to a guy like Logan, I think signals to him that Roman's effectively broken, something put into even starker relief when compared to his other children who have all got very active sex lives (albeit all of them with uhhhhh dysfunction / baggage / manic obsessive issues attached to said sex lives, haha).
As for Roman himself, I do think he's not straight, but I think it's really open to interpretation at this point what that means and I don't expect the show to ever clarify. I do think a lot of his issues stem though from a mix of insecurity and inadequacy complexes, anxiety and being desensitised to sex acts (and as a result attracted to more extreme things) as a side effect of being terminally online. What do you guys think?
#it's such a huge topic to talk about!#i was a bit nervous about his arc in the first half of the season because it seemed to be chasing it's own tail a bit#but i think it ticked up in 3.05 and kept growing through the finale which is great#i can't wait to see what happens in s4 now that he's been brought crashing back down#roman roy#logan + roman#logan roy#succession 3.09#hbo succession#succession meta#welcome to my ama
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spring gale
Summary: Spring means new beginnings but a gale (a storm more like?) in the name of Shinazugawa Sanemi blows your plans out and throw your once peaceful life into the winds.
Pairings: Shinazugawa Sanemi x Fem!Reader // future Shinazugawa Genya x SisterFigure!Reader
A/N: this,,, is v impromptu. i literally got out of my bed bc it has been bugging me with how little sanemi fanfics there are, esp modern aus. tbh, there have been plenty of fics brewing in my mind and tell me if there’s any you’d be interested in and maybe i will return from my hiatus hah:
- zhongli modern au: adepti babies being your adopted children and navigating parenthood
- unknown pairing as of now but travelers being your kids so transporting yourself into the world to find them after 500+ years of not returning home
- etc involving atsumu, diluc, childe but if you have any requests, feel free to drop it in and maybe i’ll consider them
Warnings: Some cursing (I mean it’s Sanemi lolol)
“Shinazugawa-san?” Sanemi glanced up, his hands continued packing away his things into the bag, an eyebrow raised. You smiled, hands folded over the other in front of you, as you continued to speak after gaining his attention. “When would you be free to do the project?”
He sighed, throwing his bag over his shoulder, while making his way out of the classroom - tone and body language showing his disinterest in the conversation. “We can just do it in class.”
You jogged to get into step next to him, “Well, it is for the bare minimum. I’m sure we can do much better than that.” You observed his side profile to see if any emotion could give way to what he was thinking. You frowned, frustration creeping up on you, “I understand that we’re not each other’s first choice in partners but that’s not an excuse to not do our best.”
“Are grades and studying the only thing in that airhead of yours?” His eyes flit towards yours for a moment before returning its gaze forward. “I don’t fucking have as much free time as you.”
You stopped following him. A bolt of anger and disbelief had your mouth dropping and hands curling into shaking fists. You scoffed, voice raising with each word, “I believe you need this more than me, Shinazugawa-san. Unless you want to continue being a pain in everyone’s ass and eventually not even graduate, then be my guest.”
He swiveled towards you. You flinched reactively. He faltered, face momentarily flitting from anger to surprise back to annoyance the moment his eyes scanned you. One step, two steps. He was in your space, breathing in and out to you, with his strikingly cold eyes and thin eyebrows furrowed. “Say that again, I dare you.”
You closed your eyes before releasing a deep sigh, muscles easing from the hold of your anger. “We don’t have to do it after school or on the weekends if you are that occupied. We can do it before school or during our breaks and even before our clubs start.” You grabbed one of his wrist, turning his palm upwards, shoving the crumpled paper with your number into it while fixating your glare on him throughout. You refuse to back down but you will be the bigger person. Forcing his hand to a close, you narrowed your eyes for good measure while trying to control the smirk from overtaking your face when his frown further deepened in distaste. Taking a step back, your hands returned to the usual folded stance, you forced an amicable smile to replace the smirk - although you have a feeling that he could still see the smirk from how his eye twitched, “Of course, it’s really up to you, Shinazugawa-san.”
Turning on your heel, you headed back to the classroom with your head held high and a full-blown smirk on your face while your peers watched with stolen glances and whispers behind hands or under breaths. The clicking of his tongue echoed in the corridor and in your head all the way back to the classroom.
“Ara, ara, should you really do that (Y/N)-chan?” Shinobu greeted you by your desk, eyes filled with mirth from the free entertainment.
You laughed airily, eyes not meeting hers but focused on clearing the messy table, “I wouldn’t have to if he wasn’t that difficult.”
“Not many survive Sanemi you know?” Shinobu followed you to the student council room. “One must use their life's worth of luck to crawl out from his bad side.”
A bark of a laugh escaped you from her exaggeration. “Shinobu-chan ~ I thought you wanted to get into medicine and not theatrics?”
Her eyes met yours, a smirk tugging on her lips, eyes shifting precariously into ones when she knew something the other party doesn’t and in this case that was you. A shiver ran down your spine. You’ve been in the spot only a few times but still a few too many with most of them ending up jerking your view of the world down a path you’ve never considered. You gulped, hands itching and playing with themselves.
“Did you not hear about how he got into a fight with some university boys down at the park?” She leaped into your space, voice dropping into a whisper in your ear yet head tilted to ensure a front seat view to your reaction. “He came out with a couple of scratches and bruises but…” Her small hands encircled your upper arm. Your eyes dropping to them before returning to her face - surprised to witness your shock colouring your face white as it was reflected in those big eyes of hers. “The boys said to be much bigger than he is, had to go to the hospital.” Her smile bordering on unhinged glee, she drawled, “They were so scared they didn’t sue him.”
She immediately returned to her spot beside you, a foot away, while her shoulders and arms lifted in a form of a shrug nonchalantly. “Apparently, when questioned, the boys said something about them being the ones out of line and they have worked things out.”
Being close friends with Shinobu and Mitsuri meant that you were privy to the latest gossip and news but you always took it with a grain of salt seeing firsthand how some things were purposefully voided or added for the enjoyment of teenagers. You smiled unsurely, “that’s just a rumour Shinobu-chan.”
She pouted, invisible to those who didn't know her well enough or who weren’t keen enough, “You can ask Akio. He was a witness.”
Your eyes widened before blinking in incredulity. “What.”
She giggled, hand raising in a wave before dashing down the corridor. “Do share with me if he tells you more!”
It took you a few seconds to regain your bearings, even a shake of your head to rid the mental image of Sanemi punching away on people bigger than him for his amusement. He was by no means a small person shown clearly with the muscles seen even through the school uniform - a testament to his achievements as one of the greatest fighters in the taekwondo club despite his lacklustre participation of actually attending said club practices - but there were certainly bigger and taller people in your school, much less university.
“Hashimoto-san!” You snapped out of your musings.
“Tanaka-san.” You greeted back. The black haired guy chuckled, “I told you to call me by my first name. After all, we’ve been working together for 3 years. Unless, you don’t see me as a friend? Damn, it must hurt to only be seen as a student council partner even after winning the presidential election together.”
“Stop being so dramatic.” You huffed, plopping down into the chair and hands gravitating towards the papers on the table before being stopped by a hand on your wrist. Raising an eyebrow, he returned the gesture indicating there’s something he was expecting you to tell him. He released the grasp on your hand the moment you were falling back onto the back support of the chair with a sigh. “How may I help you Akio?”
“On the way here, I heard an interesting piece of news.” He sat sideways on the table, the leg on the table folded over the leg still standing. You folded your arms over your chest and hummed. “You and Shinazugawa were fighting?”
“It was just a talk that got a bit heated. I was trying to get a hold on him so we can do our project for literature together.”
Akio’s eyebrows shot up and disappeared under his bangs. “Wow, what luck. First, he somehow got into your class through that stupid maths shit and now you have to deal with him.” He smiled in assurance, eyes crinkling close and a hand over his heart. “Be careful but if anything happens, I’m here. I’ll come running to save my beloved president.”
You mouthed a wow. Silence blanketed the both of you as you nod in understanding - lips trying to contain the smiles and laughs - as he continued to express his devotion through his hand gestures - hand flying to point at you before returning to over his chest, patting it, then forming into a prayer of sorts - all the while mouthing his loyalty to you.
With a shake of your head and hands indicating him to leave as you pulled yourself closer to your table, “Thanks but I doubt I need it.”
Instead, he tilted his head backwards and narrowed his eyes on the ceiling. “If you see what I saw, I wouldn’t put too much faith in him.”
Blood freezes over while questions overwhelm your mind. You gulped and licked your lips to get rid of the sudden dryness, “And what exactly are they?”
“He didn’t stop beating them up or screaming at them even when they were down. Three policemen had to pry him off and restrain him.”
Your heart dropped.
#sanemi#sanemi shinaguzawa#sanemi x reader#sanemi imagines#shinazugawa sanemi#shinazugawa sanemi x reader#shinazugawa sanemi imagines#demon slayer x reader#demon slayer imagines#kimentsu no yaiba#kimetsu no yaiba x reader#kimetsu no yaiba imagines#spring gale
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Tbh if you actually like answering early fandom questions I have like a million (btw it’s me again from the last 2)
You mentioned before that you were kind of out of the fandom by Danger Days but do you remember what the reaction was when Gerard talked about drinking again?
Did many og fans stick around or did they really turn on the band? Like I know you said bullets ppl hated revenge but did it grow on them eventually?
What did ppl think when Gerard and Lynz married???? That one I really want to know bc when I was newer in the fandom everyone kissed her ass like crazy and it seems like ppl have only recently realized she and msi aren’t the greatest.
Ok! Hey!!!! I kind of love you for all of these btw. this is gonna be LONG. SO yes, I was totally out of fandom at that point. However, I do follow a few blogs and I remember when the article was posted where he talked about his struggle with an ED and starting to drink again during DD. Personally, I was kind of. In shock? I didn't realize how much he was struggling at the end of it tbh. I think it also took a lot of older fans out a little bit too. It kind of made him a tangible human being rather than this formative icon we idolized. Saying that sounds awful. But at the beginning, because there was no social media, we had NO idea what the guys were actually like irl. They were human, obviously, but they were people we had put on a pedestal and we could project onto them, y'know? We had interviews and such, but the first glimpse we got into ~the real them~ was LOTMS, which was a highly edited version of the truth that fell into the stereotypes we kind of built. It glossed over Gerards addiction pretty rapidly. Reading his struggle at the end of MCR and DD broke my heart. This band did SO much for me, and a lot of us, but we never took into account how much it was taking from them or Gerard. That's all I can really say about it? Like I said, I wasn't in the fandom. So this was mostly my perspective. No one turned on the band. I think we just kind of grew up and started experiencing new things. Our interests change and merge as we get older. Some things I got from being an MCR fan stuck with me forever - i.e, my love of horror films and graphic novels, as well as my forever love of the guys. But the music wasn't what I needed anymore, yknow? I have diagnosed avoidant personality disorder, and severe depression as a result. My Chem helped me feel seen when I felt totally fucking invisible. It helped me form lasting friendships. I'm still friends with people I met in line to their shows in 2005, and on myspace. As I turned 19-20, my sadness started feeling more melancholy rather than anger. I listened to a lot of The National around then, and started getting seriously invested in film as a way of escapism. In regards to people hating revenge - I think a lot of people either left or stuck around for good. You can go back on old lj entries on the chemicalromance comm and read peoples reaction to Revenge songs. They hated how manufactured it sounded, hated how clean Gerards vocals were, HATED I'm Not Ok - thought it was too commercial for what they were prior. As someone who got into the via Revenge, it actually took some time to get used to the sound of Bullets! ALRIGHT. Ok. GERARD MARRYING LINDSEY. I wish I could figure out how to add a cut to tumblr now but IDK OK. SOOO. Some background that y’all know but is needed for context. Gerard was in a LONG TERM relationship for YEARS with someone named Kat. No one has ever EVER seen her. Gerard only talked about having a girlfriend, thanked her in notes, and she is mentioned by some reporters sometimes (as goth looking). They break up. Gerard is ~technically~ single for like. a fuckin MONTH. then Eliza shit starts up (even tho she was alluding to being with him for fukin EVER). She fakes a pregnancy, they get engaged (around I Don’t Love You), shit was WILD. like BALLS TO THE WALL INSANE. I can go way way way more into this if y’all are interested just lemme know. THEY BREAK UP around the beginning of Pro Rev. Ok. OK. Within like. another fukin MONTH Gerard is seen MAKING OUT WITH LYNZ FROM FUCKIN MSI. They go to each others shows, seen holding hands ETC ETC. LIKE. THIS DUDE. This dude who had a LONG TERM GIRLFRIEND WE NEVER EVER SAW suddenly has had TWO PUBLIC RELATIONSHIPS IN THE SPAN OF NOT EVEN A YEAR. also btw. We ALL thought he was gay, no fukin joke. Like I was saying earlier about not having any social media. We had an idea of what the guys were like from their stage personas and LOTMS. And like. Gerards Stage Persona is Loud. We thought Eliza mightve been a beard? Idk it was a weird time tbh. BUT THEN THEN T H E N G AND L GET MARRIED????>>????? THEY HAD BEEN DATING A M ON TH. a MONTH. and they got fuckin MARRIED. The conspiracy theories, y’all, I can’t. IT WAS INSANE. SO DUDE GETS ENGAGED TO SOMEONE, BREAKS UP, MAKES OUT WITH BASS PLAYER FROM MSI AND GETS MARRIED TO HER. ALL WITHIN T H R E E MONTHS. goddamn. So, ok. Last bit. Unfortunately the attitude towards language and WAS different back then. I know a lot of younger fans shit on older fans for saying so, but it WAS. It was totally different. MSI were seen as ~too cool, and their fans were pissed they went on tour with My Chem, etc. I wasn’t a fan, but I had seen them live a few times with a friend who was (not on Pro Rev). They just weren’t my thing and I hated Urines face. My friend who was actually a huge fan of BOTH msi and my chem separately was SHOCKED that G and Lindsey got together because their band and their vibes were so different. People mostly thought Lindsey was hot at the time but didn’t know anything about her, cuz again, no social media. Like, I cannot stress enough how much about these people we did not know. No one cared about their social lives or what they were like irl so we DIDN’T know how gross Urine and crew were. Like. A Huge factor as to why people were pissed and mad at Eliza was because she was making something Gerard obviously wanted to keep private into a public thing for attention and clout. Also, when he was being SO public with Lindsey it was shocking. Anyway I h8 msi.
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- What if Caligula defeated Apollo and became the new sun god?
- What if Nero managed to convince Meg in betraying Apollo once again?
- What if Commodus managed to destroy the Waystation?
- What if the Triumvirate won the battle against Apollo?
I got extremely carried away since I've thought about this for a long time. Everythings under the cut not only because it turned out to be long, but also so I can warn you that it gets pretty dark.
Caligula defeating Apollo
Medea successfully took Apollo's immortal essence.
With her fancy spellwork, Caligula now has the combined powers of Apollo and Helios.
Ave, Neos Helios!
And history repeats itself- the Triumvirate goes to civil war.
Commodus allies with Caligula
Python switches sides from Nero to Caligula
There was a scene in the book where Python was all "if there's a new sun in the west-" to Nero and that basically implied Python would no longer support Nero if Caligula succeeded.
New Rome would've fallen, either the same way as it did in Tyrant's Tomb or by the sheer power of Caligula and Commodus' army, money, weaponry, you name it (bc tbf they could've won if Rick didn't hold back). And possibly sooner than in the books unless Caligula still wants to slow his arrival and drink his Shirley Temple.
Any survivors are now on Caligula's side.
Meanwhile, Nero's desperate although he's hiding that desperation as much as he can.
Meg's no longer in control of Apollo and MIA over in California.
But, she has the Meliai.
Nero knows the reason Meg and her father ended up in New York. Because Caligula burned their home down. Because of how her father was working on something important and powerful, Caligula viewed that as a threat. He probably knew about the seeds and what they were, same as Caligula.
And Caligula knows that Nero knows.
Meg McCaffrey is the one who can change the odds, even slightly.
Realistically, she'd never want to go back to Nero or help Caligula. But Nero might be able to talk her into his side. She could equally decide to help Camp Half-Blood.
Caligula, Medea, Commodus, Python vs Nero vs CHB
Assuming Caligula is in control of Herophile, Harpocrates, and the Oracle of Cumae, then not only does he still have the power of prophecy but also the communications are still down for the demigods.
No matter how you want to dice it, Caligula wins overall by the sheer amount of power and resources on his side.
What would stop him from ordering to kill Meg on sight, simply firing an onager at camp (and it working bc Octavian isn't there to catapult himself to the sky), and winning against a full-fledged fight against Nero?
Maybe the gods but that's on if they decide to work with Camp Half-Blood to begin with. Rick's characterization via reactions on Apollo's return makes them iffy, but I'd really like to believe they at have a heart for their children, Jason, and Apollo. They stand a good chance if they side together in the end and it shows they actually learned the message of not letting the kids do all the work and appreciating them.
Maybe even the Waystation could help, provided that Commodus doesn't destroy them first.
If Caligula won, then it's just taking out Commodus and Python if he wants sole power.
If he lost, then there's a lot of mourning, the numbers of survivors are small, but there's a new appreciation and a better environment for the demigods.
Meg betraying Apollo
At any point in the series, Nero could have convinced her to betray Apollo but the two more likely times are in the Dark Prophecy- before she escaped to find Apollo and at the end of the book when after everything they've been through together all it took was being back in Nero's environment to get her back into being his pawn.
And as Apollo mentions multiple times in the series, Meg has the power to command him to kill himself. So, it wouldn't end well for Apollo.
If it were the first one, then it would be less emotional and painful on both parties, but it would still hurt.
The only person on Apollo's side from the beginning turned out to be a traitor. He'd have support from his children, but that doesn't change how she helped him.
The only escape from Nero that Meg had was no longer beside her and there was enough convincing to happen to convince Meg it was for the better.
Apollo still has a chance of restoring his immortality, especially if Lityerses became his companion in replacement so Apollo's not alone.
Meg would just be out to get him throughout his trials.
If it were towards the end, it would be more emotional.
Both lose their friend, ally, and their greatest supporter.
Domino effect to Nero's favor. Camp Half-Blood falls first. The rest of New Rome and the Waystation is next. Possibly Olympus if he wanted to go that far but if he doesn't want to push his luck then he still is powerful and the Olympians might be content that at least they are still standing.
Nero gets a swifter rise to power because Caligula and Commodus are already eliminated and Nero has their combined powers.
And Python rules from a backseat.
Ave imperator! Ave Caesar!
Commodus destroys the Waystation
Unlike before, Commodus has proven he could be a threat.
Especially if Apollo never got the chance to blind him.
There isn't much seen with him being someone who plans ahead and willing to just fight without the flashiness so I'm not entirely sure if being the sole ruler is in his favor.
He does, however, turn the tides in either Caligula or Nero's favor depending on who he decided to support. He still is part of the Triumvirate with wealth and resources, regardless of his want to provide a show and have fun.
If he sided with Caligula, then after the demigods and Nero are taken care of, Commodus would be next on Caligula's list.
Same if he sided with Nero.
The only real chance Commodus has of winning big is if he destroyed the Waystation before Apollo destroyed the oracle and if Commodus manages to capture Apollo first.
Apollo and Commodus seem to both at least remember how they were before Apollo drowned him.
Maybe manipulation via that way?
Either way, I can't say much for Commodus so this one's shorter than the rest. I can see anything happening, from him achieving co-emperor at best to still losing everything at worst.
Triumvirate vs Apollo
This one entirely depends on which battle.
Assuming that all the three emperors are alive, then the story changes at the latest in the Tyrant's Tomb. Specifically, Caligula and Commodus are actually still alive despite Frank's sacrifice.
And they show up at the end, weak, but alive.
Because unless you count that picture Rachel got of them in a penthouse that was blurry, there was never a scene where all of them were together which isn't fair. Then again, Rick was the one who invented overpowered emperors in the series so that was probably a conscious decision to make it easier for Apollo.
The soonest would be immediately after The Hidden Oracle, where Nero could supply help to Commodus since he would know that would be Apollo and Meg's destination.
This one would be short because this is an equally open-ended question.
But if they actually helped each other first, things don't look good for Apollo or the demigods.
They might spare the demigods for the specific purpose of ruling over them.
If they continued to share their victory, then their empire is still split three ways.
If they decided to go all civil war, then as the first two triumvirates of Roman history went, the weakest go down first and the main two hash it over a lot of battles.
Caligula would still have Medea, so he has the means of magic.
And Nero would still have Python. Tbh, not sure if that snake even has powers of prophecy. But either way, Python was Nero's ally from the beginning.
I'd say the only thing stopping the triumvirate from complete control is once again, Olympus itself.
Especially if Meg's alive and inspires everyone to avenge Jason and Apollo.
Bonus~
Caligula as the sole emperor includes paranoia that someone betrays him since he was originally killed by his own guards. He might be able to rule the people as well as he did when he first became emperor (back in ancient Rome, the first few months of his rule he was well-loved until he became ill). If anything else, you can count on the yachts being his palace. Incitatus might be by his side because they might part ways since Incitatus wants horses to rule the world in the books. Caligula might renovate New Rome to his liking and upgrade it with his personal wealth.
Commodus as sole emperor involves Commodianapolis and a football stadium where he can host games. A lot of wealth being poured into grandeur, parties, and Commodus' name and likeness everywhere.
Nero as sole emperor means the Imperial Household is there to stay. From what I gather, there are twelve children to replace the twelve Olympians. I don't they're exactly all are children/legacies, but I could be wrong. Either way, Nero has them to help him enforce the rules. He has his tower and he's conveniently near Olympus and Camp Half-blood. He could decide to expand in Manhattan and Long Island.
#these were all scenarios I thought about when the books were released#great minds think alike#not sure if this is what you wanted but hope you liked this anyways#tw mention of death#tw mention of suicide#trials of apollo#caligula trials of apollo#neos helios#nero trials of apollo#commodus trials of apollo#meg mccaffrey#lester papadopoulos#python
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What are your top 10 and bottom 10 ACOTAR characters?
Hello sweet anon, I first wanted to thank you so much (you brightened my day with that😊) and before we start I just thought to tell you that this turned out rather long, so I summarized it at the top and put my whole reasons under the cut😄
Positive:
1. Elain/ 2. Azriel/ 3. Nuala & Cerridwen/ 5. Lucien/ 6. Amren/ 7. Alis/ 8. Nesta/ 9. Cassian/ 10. Feyre
Negative:
10. Morrigian/ 9. Graysen/ 8. Rhysand/ 7. Cauldron/ 6. Attor/ 5. Amarantha/ 4. Ianthe/ 3. Luciens Brothers/ 2. Beron Vanserra/ 1. -
+ 1. Elain
Ok, so I just love this female. I love how Elain is not portrayed as the type of woman who does need a weapon to get what she wants. It is true that one might take her outstanding beauty as a weapon (it sure is) but she can achieve a lot of good things by just using her words and charisma, letting peace remain, before one might do the wrong step and start a war.
Elain is in my opinion though not only charismatic, but also really … yeah silent and well behaved. She does not need to be the centre of the party or a conversation, we have learned she enjoys the company of silence too and her language or the way she is, just speaks on another level. One might say she has a stick shoved up her ass, but I don’t think that this is the case, simply bc we have seen Elain act on her own emotions as well, she just seems to prefer to hold up that mask of her human days around her family, she can use curses too and also have dirty thoughts (her reaction to Azriel on solstice (this was no shock, fear or whatever one might claim!)) god forbid!
Something I also love about her is her seer ability, I am most of the time really intrigued by the future, so seeing her look into the still foggy realms of what is to happen, is really interesting.
+ 2. Azriel
This boy just deserves all the love this world has to give! One of the reasons probably bc dark and broody males with a whole wall of mystery build around them are my typ. But no, seriously – I think Az is one of the most misunderstood characters, mostly by his family.
Bc even though he has known the greatest part of his family for 500+ years, no one seems to understand him, his feelings or his wishes (Thank you Rhysand!) as everyone just assumes Azriel is Azriel and is just ok with being where his family is( Obligated to be the fifth wheel for the rest of eternity!😭)
Something which I also think the IC mistakes is his silence. It might seem as if Azriel barely has anything to say, but I guess it is more the other way around, as we have figured out that if he talks it is always well thought with deep meanings, at times even poetic from the bottom of his heart and often used to motivate or encourage someone. I just think he picks his words so carefully bc he is afraid to give away too much of himself and that everything he might say, or every thought he harboured, could be used against him, so that he would be wounded (THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THAT RHYSAND!)
+ 3. Nuala & Cerridwen
I just love both of them, so I was not able to put one of them on a fourth place.
Anyway, Nuala and Cerridwen are two characters who are also majorly underestimated. Those two have a quiet side which makes most of the people around them forget that they even exist, which is pretty noticeable from Feyres, Rhysands and even Nestas pov (though I am not gonna lean too wide out of the window with her since I haven’t read Acosf yet) Those two could literally plan to overthrow an High Lord and we would only know the moment it is too late,bc everyone seems to forget about their existence. Something I also love about them, is their whole character. We don’t know much about them now, but it already is noticeable that they accept people like they are, for they have no fear of Azriel, nor do they act around Elain as if she were made of glas.
+ 5. Lucien
Lucien is just an innocent bean who deserves all the love in all of Prythian! I might be an Elriel stan, but you might want to address the fact that not even one rooting for Elriel is oblivious to the shit show which took place in Luciens life. Undermined son, lover killed in front of his eyes, abused/used by his best friend and on top of that practically homeless. He knows that he can’t go back to the spring court yet, for things with Tamlin did not yet settle down, he also knows he isn’t also really home at the Night Court and god forbid if he ever thought of entering Autumn again! If it wouldn’t be for the Band of Exils (Thank god they exist) he’d be all lonely and without a roof over his head.
And this is something our sassy, witty fox does not deserve.
+ 6. Amren
Amren is just a character I identify with. She seems like as if she is only caring about her own stuff and only mind her business, while in truth she just doesn’t know how to express the love she feels for her family, as we know from her former past she did not even receive love, and just cares the most about her family.
Something I also love about her is her whole behaviour if one is to doubt her size. In my country I barely scratch the minimum of average height, so a friend of mine likes to make jokes about my size (much like Cassian about Amren), so seeing how she just shows him his place with a glare or some sharp words is just satisfaction to me.
+ 7. Alis
The kindness with which Alis treated Feyre in Acotar just sort of stuck to me and as I did not really find a character in Prythian, who was born there, who had the same kindness as her – she just stayed.
+ 8. Nesta
Nesta is a character I absolutely love, in Acotar I do admit I did not pay that much attention to her or Elain, but I just love how strong minded she is. She had been fighting for her own goal the moment she got spit out of the cauldron and she did not particularly stray from that. I also adore her for her strength – she wouldn’t even have been in the need to learn combat in order to hurt someone, as Nesta just analyses the people around her so much, so that she’ll know exactly what would feel to them like a gut stab.
The fact that Nesta is a huge bookworm and a dreamer in her own way makes her even more awesome.
+ 9. Cassian
Now you can just love this guy! He might have his ups and downs, but in the end he always worked his way out of them. Cassian just has such a big heart, that much like Nesta, he would do anything in order to protect his family and loved ones.
And while he is great to cheer one up, he might not be the brightest candle on the cake, but he would still go to the end of the world if it meant he could fight and protect those he loves. Something I also liked was that he is practically the one who started this whole thing with the females training while Rhysand just let the Illyrians do like they please.
+ 10. Feyre
As the main character we had learned a lot about her and I am happy that she is alive, has her freedom, is in love with her mate, has a child, a loving family and a really high title (*cough* High Lady). But what I think she could have done different was the way of how she treated both, Elain and Nesta, during their traumas.
Even though Nesta might not have shown her trauma that clear in the beginning, she could have still looked over the plates rim once it was almost tearing through one’s ears in a painful scream of help that Nesta was not fine. And judging someone straight out mad or considering it while you yourself have not even a real clue of how this whole Prythian thing works is just a big no-no. Elain doubted herself already enough, Feyres fear that she might have gone mad was not helping the situation.
And well Nestas story is one I can’t particularly dive into yet, but from what I have read (Acofas) she dealt with it the wrong way. It might have been that she and Nesta did not have the best relationship and she might have even wondered if she was entitled to bound with her sister on such a topic, but when Nesta pushed each of them away Feyre should have not moved away from her.
Feyre already did a lot for her, true, but Feyre knew herself how it was to have a trauma and she herself had pushed help, in the first months, away, but however I am overall just happy she got her happy ending.
- 10. Morrigian
I have criticized Morrigian already a lot, but I will just say it again.
First of, I don’t hate her. Morrigian is a character who I think has a lot to tell, as we know she kept the biggest part of herself a secret until now, but I just don’t like how she claims to trust the IC while in truth she refuses to tell them of her sexuality (the thing she seems to be afraid? of the most.)
I know the Azriel pining after her for 500+ years, was a lot of pressure on her back, but she could have also just told him she wasn’t interested or loved females (if she wouldn’t have been fine with telling Rhys). However I think she is going to be one of the more important side characters as I think her situation and everything that follows, pretty much sums up how gays/lesbians and other LGBTQ members feel now a days. And I think her journey is sort of supposed to help to overcome those struggles.
I at least hope she gets her journey.
- 9. Graysen
Graysen was an ass for breaking the engagement of like a toddler, that’s it – end of the song. If he would have told Elain he couldn’t trust her bc she lied to him – ok.
But the tune makes the music! Keep that in mind,Nolan!
- 8. Rhysand
Now Rhysand is to me a character who tip toes on a two sided blade.
I normally do like him, he is kind and caring and no doubt would die for the people he loves, but he has a very, very hard time separating work from private life. The example I’ll go with is the big bad magical solstice. He might have claimed that the kiss between Elain and Az could have invoked a blood duel, if Lucien would have notice, possibly even provoking a war between Night and Autumn (work) but his ulterior motive were Feyre and Nyx, no one blames him for that, but it is a private reason and excuse he should not use while speaking as the High Lord.
And again, when Az starts doubting the Cauldron with choosing the wrong mate for Elain, Rhys assumes it is just lust speaking from Az and commands him as the High Lord to stay away from Elain (low blow of assumption, but not my point) while he then offers to pay for the pleasure halls Azriel could possibly seek out (according to him). With what money would he have paid it, his own (private) while he was speaking as the High Lord, or the exchequer (work)?
You see my point? Anyway Rhys is a loving character, but he is just a bit troubled ruling an entire court (this huge) and having a family to take care of. Perhaps he is having it settled in a few years, but until then we will just have to wait and see.
- 7. Cauldron
I don’t really know if you can call the Cauldron a character, but I just placed it here as I hated how it had humiliated Nesta and Elain.
The bloodshed it caused was also nothing I ever want to mention again.
- 6. Attor
Now just the Rainbow and the attack on Velaris, just this, nu-uh man.
- 5. Amarantha
I hated her for killing innocent fae, enslaving High Lords or in general and setting up ‘riddles’ (games) in which the life of helpless fae was depending on a human who could barely safe herself with a bargain. Something I also kind of take personal is how she treated Jurian, I mean ok – he deserved a punishment, but like setting him in chains and having him barely at the minimum of survival would have been also fine.
- 4. Ianthe
Just the Suriel! This was when I took things personal! (I’ll add an 11 to the list above – I loved the weaver!)
- 3. Luciens Borthers
Luckily, most of those little shits got what they deserve.
I don’t grow up in a family very high in statues, so I don’t know how it is, but no matter if poor or rich – siblings should fight together instead of against each other! And most definitely not kill the female their brother loved!
- 2. Beron Vanssera
I hate him for having hesitated saving Rhys, watching how his sons treated Lucien and how he could possibly let anything as terrifying, as what had happened to Mor, happen. Also – it’s just the way how he treats his wife!
Someone really hadn’t drunken his ‘respectful juice’, for the last fucking Millenia!
- 1. /
I don’t really despise a character entirely, as I know each and every one has a bright and dark side of the coin (Still trying to find the bright side of Luciens father and brothers though)
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Loki Ep4 Spoilers below (once more bc I just can't help myself, can I?)
It's been a while since I've had a character as interesting as Mobius to analyze and I have no chill. Spoilers start below:
Also some spoilers for WandaVision but it's been months so hopefully y'all have seen it
TL;DR Mobius really trying to connect back with Loki in order to try and bring the TVA down (and also bc "oops, Loki was right, guess I gotta own up to that bitterness") and it works but it hurts so much. Also see: I can't stop watching this scene over and over trying to understand Mobius' subtle actions bc his reaction here is so different than in all other scenes where he's usually calm or trying to delve deep into Loki's mind for information. Now he's just desperate.
Ok so I know I made a post talking about Mobius' jealousy in that interrogation scene but I also want to touch on when he comes back again after seeing the footage from C-20's interrogation scene bc man is so desperate here and I'm crying
(I'm sorry, I can't get gifs to work for me today so we just using images. But I got these from this post)
Mobius was so hurt last time we saw him, Loki being thrown back into the time cell with Lady Sif, hitting our dear agent with "out of all the liars in this place... you are the biggest... for the [lies] you tell yourself." Mobius has been pushing down all these doubts, hiding all his questions and curiosities of the TVA for a while. He's teased Ravonna, but could never really get anywhere. Then after speaking with Loki about Sylvie, about "you're all variants", Hunter B-15's suspicions, the oddness of C-20's "death" (M:"she was just fine before." R:"well, then she suddenly wasn't fine."). Mobius is finally allowing himself to realize things, to question truly what is going on. (R: "Is that what you wanted to hear?" M: "Yeah, if that's the truth." R: "You've been around Lokis too long.")
In this scene, when he comes back to the time cell for Loki, he's frustrated, he's angry, he's desperate. Everything is a lie. He can't pretend anymore. Loki has bonded with Sylvie (actually caring for another human being without the trauma of Thor: The Dark World and Thor: Ragnarok) ((I'm begging you, pls let him see a variant of Thor in this series and get to bond again, I miss them)). C-20 is likely pruned and gone forever with no answers. B-15 is getting anxious and unfocused. Ravonna is snapping at him and manipulating him with those long speeches (please, Mobius has heard enough from Loki's videos to know when he's being manipulated by fake sentimental words). He's tired, no longer patient enough for all the little quips-- he just need answers. For once in his "life" at the TVA, he just wants the truth. Something to safely hold to.
He's just put Loki through this timeloop of Lady Sif, of someone from home someone that could've been close to him under different circumstances, someone his brother cared about, kicking him/slapping him/ berating him with "you deserve to be alone, and you always will be." Loki's whole "Sacred Timeline Life" marks him to "always be alone", to finally get close to people before being torn away (whether in his own volition or by someone/something else). But with Loki caring for Sylvie, maybe even loving her, this changes everything for this Loki. He could finally care enough to save someone, to go out of his way in order to help others at his own cost. And Mobius knows this.
He asks again, desperate, pleading, hoping. Loki has to believe in himself, has to love himself enough to think to believe that he deserves a family, love, security from his greatest fear. He has to have changed because if not, then he'll either get pruned or wind up just like Mobius. Either way, gone from existence-- life erased, precious memories of "what if", "what once was", obliterated. He has to believe, or it'll happen again and again and again. To everyone, to the whole universe, unless something someone could do the impossible and shatter all reality.
With Wanda (specifically in WandaVision, final episode end credits), with her searching for her children and Vision, attempting the impossible and blending her realities in order to give them life because she needs them, she loves them. (M: "If you really care about [Sylvie]..."). This threat to the Sacred Timeline, pushing closer and closer to the MCU Multiverse, because they have to, because they want to.
(sorry again for bland picture, I love his expression in this gif but it wont load)
Mobius knows Loki is hurting-- from Lady Sif, from his past, from failing to protect Sylvie on his own, from Mobius not believing him and calling him "just a bad friend". He knows Loki could learn to believe, but he doesn't yet. Only Frigga ever told him she believed in him, he needs to hear it again. He needs to know he deserves love because he is loved. Mobius does, "believe, stupidly" (ep2) that Loki has this potential.
When I first saw this scene in the trailers, I was nervous it would be in the context of Mobius trying to get Loki on the TVA's side, "someone good". But here, this is so much better-- he knows the TVA is lying, is manipulating, is destroying lives. (L: "No one bad is every truly bad, and no one good is ever truly good" ep2 again lol). Loki knows he's not "truly good", that he's hurt people-- whether he planned to or not. But he can still be good. He can still choose to love, to care, to believe.
He can be what he's always wanted, what Frigga promised him, what he's always feared. He can be known, be loved, be safe-- Loki doesn't just fear being alone, he fears people choosing to leave him. That's why the memory of Lady Sif instead of Thor reaching for him on the Rainbow Bridge or Thanos threatening the Asgardian refugees or even Odin trying to explain why he "saved" Loki when he fought Loki's homeland. This memory was casual, simple, unnecessary. But it's always the smallest moments that truly impact us the most-- the slight changes.
When Mobius says this to Loki, he freezes-- he's confused, hesitant, scared. No one tells him this, why is someone telling him this, how can I believe this?
And then:
.And the little shrug Mobius gives here
It's so casual, so simple, so nonchalant. He just wants to reassure Loki that he still cares. He just spent a whole interrogation hounding on Loki for finding love with Sylvie, for changing with her (jealous boi be jealous), for lying to him and betraying him (M: "You don't do partners... unless ofc it benefits you and you intend to betray them at some point"). But now, now he's stopped lying to himself. He knows he cares, that Loki has a chance, that they have to burn this place down. Mobius wants stop this from ever happening again, from someone ever having to go through what Loki's gone through, being told they can never be loved because that's just how the Timeline goes. That a kid would be taken away from their family (probably because Sylvie presents feminine?? Idk, feel like MCU Odin wouldn't be so good with that). He has to reassure Loki, he wants to, because no one should ever feel that way again.
(and frick I really hate this, please look at the gifs from the linked post above, u gotta see his precious smile grow)
LOOK AT THIS SMILE, LOOK AT HIM HE'S HAPPY. And it was such a small, subtle apology from Mobius but it made all the difference bc he told Loki that he believes in him. And then they walk back out of the time cell, side-by-side, looking at each other. Content, safe, prepared to face the world together. He's no longer alone.
... And then ofc this happens...
*cue my heart shattering* (bless Hiddleston's acting).
The fact that you can even hear the hitch in Mobius' breath as he realizes this is the end of the line for him, that Ravonna knows and there's no going back--he's not making it out of this.
"One last desperate trick from the desperate trickster."
He talks about the jetski, about what his life might have been, he knows this hits Loki, being ripped from your timeline, losing all that potential. More importantly, it gives Loki a reason to fight. A silent, "Don't let this happen again. Don't let them get away with this. Please, remember me, don't let me disappear." But it doesn't work, because the one thing Mobius didn't account for, is that Loki cares about him. That now, the fight drains out of him. They pruned Mobius, ofc they'll get to Loki and Sylvie. They didn't even hesitate. Loki just lost, once again, the only other person who ever told him they believed in him. "You can be whoever, whatever..." "She told me I could do anything..."
Loki is less of a narcissist and more of a person desperate to fill that hole inside-- he's been neglected, cast aside, told he should want this and then never getting it. A "Glorious Purpose" to always hide in the shadows, to cause suffering, to give others a reason to unite against him. But for once, just once he hoped that he didn't have to do it alone-- that he could unite. And then they crushed those beautiful few seconds of hope like it was just another tedious, burdening purpose of the TVA.
(credits of images/gifs to the original posts linked, none were mine as I can't figure this out at all lol)
#loki spoilers#loki ep4#wanda marvel#loki#loki series#mobius#mobius m mobius#agent mobius#dear god he has so many different name tags#sylvie#hunter b 15#c 20#queen frigga#ravonna renslayer#lokius#but not really#angsty#bc I can't help myself#character analysis#pls save me#im too deep into this episode now#there's just so much to unpack#long post
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P1: The rwby fandom is being really weird about that scene with ironwood shooting slate huh? Cause it’s like you said: he doesn’t have a history of reacting violently to situations up until the very end of v7. Actually i remember ironwood being the one to stop winter from killing? (idk if she actually had the intent to kill but her blade was at his neck) Qrow in a fit of rage. And now you’re telling me Winter is terrified and shocked by ironwood killing slate. Idk i guess you could argue that
P2: that what ironwood did was a cold-blooded execution but still WHY? That still isn’t in-character for him from what we’ve seen so far. Maybe crwby realized that being afraid of salem doesn’t make james paranoid bc she’s a real threat so they decided to make james see threats everywhere. Threats that he desperately and “robotically” tries to eliminate. This would solve some problems with the writing while creating a whole lot of other problems that i don’t even want to get into
Honestly, I think you’ve hit the nail on the head.
For whatever reason, the writers/showrunners (is there a meaningful difference for a show like RWBY? genuine question, I’m not sure how the production is structured) decided they needed another villain. I’m not sure why, since they have a whole slew of villains and more than enough obstacles to throw at the heroes by keeping Ironwood as a morally grey ally with an opposing viewpoint, meaning he could very well have become an antagonist without getting yeeted over the moral event horizon on a rocketship. But whatever the reason (his heart or his shoes wait wrong show), they wanted to add to their cast of card-carrying evil villains, and picked Ironwood, and by extension anyone following him.
Rather than setting this up volumes in advance, though--for instance, by showing him reacting irrationally, with unnecessary violence, and these reactions getting more extreme despite not having concrete evidence that Salem was acting--what they did was have Ironwood act as a rational, reasonable man, who had to make some very tough choices. He never reacted with unwarranted aggression to any situation before volume 7--again, his ‘I’d have you shot’ comment was delivered with sarcasm in a moment of irritation, but there was no heat behind it, and he certainly wasn’t threatening to actually shoot Qrow--and he had very concrete reasons to set up the embargo and close Atlas’ borders.
He knew about Salem--he knew everything the heroes know, except the fact that she is immortal and can’t be destroyed, a secret which Ruby chose to keep and which, in the long run, did more harm than good (and yet none of them reflected on why Ozpin might have been keeping that secret in the first place, but I digress)--and he knew that her agents were acting in Remnant. He knew they were behind the Fall of Beacon, and he knew they all remained at large. Not a single one of the instigators of Beacon’s fall was captured in the aftermath. For all he knew, Atlas, the greatest remaining bastion of military strength and the only kingdom that might have a chance at defending against her if she chose to make her move (which he had every reason to believe she soon would, since this was the first time in centuries that she had acted directly to anyone’s knowledge), was going to be their next target. While global communications were down, he had no way of getting fast and reliable information from the other kingdoms. He could not risk spreading his forces too thin in an attempt to protect them without that knowledge--which is why his focus was on Amity Arena.
Get global comms back up and running, talk to the other kingdoms, warn them about Salem, and then they might have a chance. This was a plan, by the way, that team RWBY was all for, even though it meant that he would be setting up the entire world to fail because they knew Salem couldn’t be defeated. Ruby encouraged him to keep diverting resources from Mantle to finish the tower as quickly as he could. No one so much as mentioned the fact that if he did, and he told the world about Salem, they would be gearing up for a fight team RWBY&Co knew they would not be able to win.
Not until after James told the people of Atlas about Salem--again, without the crucial knowledge that she was immortal and they could not fight her.
So, notably, the entirety of volume 7 we see James Ironwood reacting reasonably, and rationally, to very real threats. We know Salem is a threat, we know the world is in danger--shit, we know Atlas is in danger, because Watts and Tyrian are there causing chaos. We see him take in the news that Salem is immortal much more calmly than I think the situation warranted--I would not have blamed him for exploding then, because the fact is that they didn’t give him this critical information until after it was nearly too late to act on it. And now he had an entire kingdom of people who likewise are laboring under the false belief that they have a chance against Salem, that she can be defeated, if they stick together. Which the protagonists know to be false, because if that were the case, then Jinn would have said as much to Oz when he asked how she could be destroyed.
(Which doesn’t mean that RWBY won’t pull some sort of ‘actually she only said Oz couldn’t, because he didn’t have the ability to unite the world [even though that’s bs], so team RWBY can kill her with the power of friendship actually’ ending out of a hat, but still, when it comes to characterization, we have to go by what the characters know and what they might reasonably believe based on the information they have--not meta knowledge we have as an audience because we’re genre savvy and can see the writing on the wall.)
None of his behavior throughout volume 7 indicated that he was on the verge of a complete mental break with reality that would lead him to start shooting people, including a child containing the soul of his best friend, in cold blood let and right. But I suspect that the crew was relying on the fandom having decided that James must be a bad guy, because he’s a military leader and military = bad, and the Ace Ops are effectively cops and cops = bad (even though if we’re going to call the Ace Ops cops, then we need to be calling all huntsmen cops, including Weiss, who performed a legal arrest on screen; if huntsmen have the authority to act as law enforcement officials, they are cops, period), and since they are already mostly bad, performing (and condoning, since there were six witnesses, four of them armed with auras, who just stood there and looked at each other after watching Ironwood gun a defenseless man down) cold-blooded murder is just the next logical step. Of course James would just murder a guy standing in between him and power, he’s a military leader, they’re all evil!
Nevermind the fact that Salem is literally right there, and if ever there was a situation that called for martial law to be legally enacted for the continued safety and protection of the kingdom (there’s a reason martial law exists, and there are reasons it can be justifiably enacted and enforced!!!!!) this is it.
Anyway.... yeah. I am unsurprised by the general fandom reaction--nevertheless, I’m disappointed by it. And I hope for the day in some nebulous future where the very idea of nuance and gray morality doesn’t just make a majority of them break out in hives.
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WATCH ME RAMBLE ABOUT THE HAMEHURA SPINOFF
My Next Life as a Villainess! All Routes Lead to Doom! have officially taken over my headspace, and I really want a platform to talk about it. I’ve read the manga and novels over and over again, and I’m so happy to seeing the reactions of everyone to each anime episodes.
Though surprisingly, other than obviously the original novel, what actually piqued my interest in the series is actually the spinoff manga for hamehura, “I Reincarnated into an Otome Game as a Villainess With Only Destruction Flags... In a Dire Situation!? Verge of Destruction Arc”. Yes, it has a spinoff.
(This might be considered spoilers for the spinoff and anime, be warned!) I just want to ramble about it and give my critiques, opinions and expectations. My words might not make sense if you haven’t read the spinoff, but I think having a general gist of the events of the original anime/novel/manga is enough to read through my vents and rambles. also there’s screenshots here so there’s that.
It’s basically the same plot as the anime, but if Katarina regained her memories of her past life during the events of Fortune Lover, within the school year, instead of when she was 8 years old like the original novel.
I don’t even really know if I’m in the right place to comment on it, considering it only has like 6 chapters (with the 7th one still being a month away) anyways and has a lot of time to expand and grow it’s concept, but gosh darn it, I want to talk about it!
I really really love the premise of the spinoff, and i think it’s much more compelling than the original novel. The novel wins by being more wholesome and heartfelt, but with the spinoff, we get to see Katarina play this “game” in hard mode” where she doesn’t have the connections that she would’ve had if she remembered sooner. There’s a sense of urgency in the plot that you don’t really have in the novel because she had already won everyone over before the game even begins. Both premises are charming, but this one really lifts up the concept of the title.
While I’d love to say that i’m excited to see this alternate version of the plot and find out how Katarina would solve herself out of her destruction, sadly the spinoff still follows the original material very religiously, preventing the spinoff as really coming out into its own (again, I could be wrong, there’s only 6 chapters so far after all but from what we have so far, it’s practically identical to the manga/novel).
I think one of the greatest strengths of the spinoff is that it would take it’s time in the Magic School because Katarina only has one year to put the odds in her favor, instead of years, so it means we wont speed through her school life like the novel/anime/manga did.
This is why my favorite part of the spinoff is Sienna, Katarina’s main underling when she was still the villainess of Fortune Lover. I love her because her existence provides a reason for the writer of the spinoff to find ways to insert her into the original plot, or to write new ones altogether in order to include what I imagine to be Katarina’s new best friend in this timeline.
Sienna’s existing can also be a sign of a possible future conflict regarding Katarina’s behavior post-accident. In the original novel/manga, it was okay for the snobby and spoiler Katarina to suddenly become dense and gluttonous, because she was 8 years old, and thus in the eyes of the adults, still had a lot of time to grow and develop her character. It’s still weird of course but it can be written off as such. With the event happening during the events of Fortune Lover, characters such as Maria and Geordo are obviously confused but her change of heart. Personally, I’d love to see her underlings and other students call her out on her behavior (especially since we are about to see the dynamic of Keith and Katarina in this timeline) because of how abrupt and sudden this change was. The spinoff tries to run away from this problem by writing off Mary and Alan as “not knowing much about Katarina other than rumors” but I doubt it, considering how much they would probably encounter each other in social gatherings and such. For them to not have an independent impression of her seems lazy to me to be honest, because not having an opinion on her means that she can act in any way that she wants and it can be considered as her being normal to them.
Because of how faithful this spinoff is to the original material, the banter that characters would have about Katarina feels undeserved, such as Geordo being possessive of Katarina during her interactions with Alan, despite not being interested in her until now. Bare in mind that at this point, Geordo had already met Maria (who piqued his interest during their first encounter, according to Katarina in the original novel) and only just gained interest in her fiance because of her out-of-nowhere change in personality. the banter between the twin princes doesn’t feel right when you factor in that he doesn’t care about Katarina enough (yet) to find his brother as a threat. To be honest, I wouldn’t even have this problem if the spinoff wasn’t so loyal.
This also opens up the question of how she will gain rapport with the characters in Fortune Lover. The spinoff pulled off Mary and Katarina’s friendship through their similar interests in gardening, but without the mistake of taking Alan’s in game dialogue, Mary has no reason to be attached to Katarina at all, and is definitely in love with Alan.
I mean i’d be okay if the spinoff writes off their relationship as just friends, but then again that ruins the charm that the original novel had (which is that Katarina catches love interests like she does with pokemon) which can be both a good thing and a bad thing (I don’t mind if they don’t have the harem, but maybe that makes it too far from the source material idk)
This is why I don’t want the spinoff to be religiously loyal to the source material! Keith’s introduction makes me nervous because there is absolutely no way that the spinoff can follow the original method of winning him over without making it look ridiculous, so obviously his route will have to be written from scratch. It’s not the rewrite that makes me nervous, it’s how similar it’d be from the original novel. The same would have to happen with Sophia (who has probably lived in fear and isolation without a real friend FOR YEARS), Nicol (who is intertwined with his sister), and Alan (depending on how far Maria is into the plot). From what i’ve seen from the spinoff so far, Katarina can still realistic gain the character’s of Fortune Lover as her allies, but they won’t be (or atleast might not be) as attached to her as they do in the original novel (like Mary and Sophia maybe)
My only biased exception to this is her and her maid Anne, because it’s pretty endearing to know that even the spoiled version of Katarina is still attached to Anne, so as long as they are together, she doesn’t really mind the difference.
I would really love it if Katarina could gain allies outside of the established cast, to emphasize how different her situation is now that her circumstances are different due to the time of when her memories return. I just don’t want the spinoff to suddenly make the characters interested in Katarina, even though she’s lived her life until now as a spoiled and selfish noble.
This brings me to another concern of mine: Maria, the protagonist of Fortune Lover. So far, Katarina has already won over her friendship and has forgiven her and Sienna for their actions against her after seeing their efforts to fend off other harassers. My problem isn’t really how quickly she got won over or anything (despite this already solving her problem of being accused of orchestrating her bullying that could cause her end just before the final graduation event of the game), it’s more of what she represents.
You see, what made all the characters of Fortune Lover so attached to Katarina is that she lacks the outlook of a noble, being someone who lived as a normal school girl before being reincarnated. She is a very empathetic person who is able to sooth the worries of the characters but literally not seeing it at all (examples being Alan with his rivalry with his twin, and Mary & Sophia with their appearance). She alleviates the pain and worries of others by being what they need. In the original novel of My Next Life as a Villainess!, the readers/viewers already know that her villainess fate is already thwarted because she had already accomplished what Maria was supposed to do during the events of Fortune Lover (befriend Sophia = gain Nicol’s affections / interest Geordo = gain his affection / differentiate Alan & Geordo = gain Alan’s affections / be a first real source of comfort and company = gain Keith’s affections etc.)
I can’t really speculate on much of the plot of the game, but luckily the anime dvd box comes with the actual Fortune Lover game routes of the 4 boys so I might be able to comment on this better in the future.
Maria is basically the same as Katarina (or Bakarina, if its less confusing); both characters are outsiders to the world of nobles and royalty, and it’s through their own personal outlook that they help and befriend the characters of the game. The spinoff would probably stick the two by the hip now that they’re friends in order to solve this problem, but it’s basically a race between the two of which of them can apply their personal quirks in getting the characters to ally with them. Again I can’t really speculate bc I don’t know the actual routes of the boys, but yeah.
For example, Geordo has met the heroine while she was trying to climb a tree with a skirt, which he has never seen before, while her also being the pretty light-magic user commoner, and this definitely made her interesting to him (Note: this is an event that occurs canonically within the events of the game, Fortune Lover, but is not presented as something that had occurred in the manga).
Now we have Katarina acting out of character and eating tons of sweets, while trying to salvage the dress of her peer after she spilled a drink on it, and this character change made her interesting to him as well. Katarina, considering her actual personality as time progresses in the story, is definitely much more interesting than Maria’s (I say that with biases of course) so Geordo would most likely find her to be the more unpredictable and interesting out of the two, but it looks like the only way (or what seems to already be the chosen way??) of writing the spinoff out of this mess is to make it appear like the Maria event didn’t or hasn’t happened yet, because while the original novel does state that Geordo would have fallen for Maria if he wasn’t already inlove with Katarina before they entered the Magic School, Geordo has yet to address his relationship with Maria. (yeah I get it there’s only 6 chapters yet jhgsdgfjsdg BUT STILL IT’S A LOT TO THINK ABOUT)
I don’t know what kind of dynamic Maria and Katarina would have in the spinoff, especially since you need to factor in Sienna, but in the original novel, Maria was pretty submissive to Katarina and would mostly just follow her lead. Maybe with this new friendship, Maria might not actively approach the main love interests (unless it’s by accident, since they don’t have to always save her from bullying Katarina and Sienna already try to solve that themselves) which gives time for Katarina to win them over with the quirky personality. At least, this is what I hope the spinoff goes for lol. (side note, it’s actually interesting to see what it’s like when Geordo literally only uses Katarina as a shield from other women, so when the shift from tool to romance occurs, i think it’ll be pretty nice to see)
To be honest I don’t even know what I’m rambling about, I’m sure I’ll love the spinoff regardless of what direction it takes lol. I’m just nervous because I really really love this concept an I want it to be different from the source material because it literally has the potential to be its own story (idk if this spinoff is even official at all, like I think it has the permission of Yamaguchi Satoru, but idk if its licensed)
Before I end this long ramble, I just want to note that i actual like the art style of the spinoff (illustrated by nishi) more than the original artist nami. I feel like this more simple artstyle captures the shift between Villainess Katarina and Bakarina more smoothly, while the original illustrations kinda makes it looked forced (mostly the manga tbh, the novel covers and art is fine). With nishi’s art, you can easily grasp that these two personalities are both Katarina.
Anyways that’s it, my hands hurt lol. Might edit this in the future.
#hamefura#hamehura#My Next Life as a Villainess#destruction flag otome#Otome Game no Hametsu Flag shika Nai Akuyaku Reijou ni Tensei shiteshimatta#Otome Game no Hametsu Flag shika nai Akuyaku Reijou ni Tensei shite shimatta... Zettai Zetsumei!#I Reincarnated into an Otome Game as a Villainess With Only Destruction Flags... In a Dire Situation!? Verge of Destruction Arc#My Next Life as a Villainess! All Routes Lead to Doom!#Bakarina#Bakarina Alter#sorry if this is random and dumb#i wanted to vent lol#mh talks#Maria Campbell#Katarina Claes
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look, I know I should be working on my book or re making my bed but instead y’all are gunna hear my takes on last airbender cus that show is god teir and I love it
first a disclamer I have seen the hole show but never all in one go so if my time line is fucked or I miss a point sorry, secondly I should mention I have never seen kora so keep that in mind.... I have no idea if that will actully be aplicable but what ever here we go, oh last thing I’m not really spell checking so sorry in advance
lets start with Iroh, he is such an important charicter, one cus he’s like one of two mentally stable people on that show, and two because hes hella powerfull, this man taught our king Zuko everything he knows pretty much was the crown prince growing up is actually leavel headed and you know can BREATH FIRE, honestly hes just like the best and like whenever I need some good advise I just try to think of what Iroh would do, like this man didn’t let the fire nation corupt him, like yes he was a very promanet and powerful general, yet we never see him ecxibit the same type of coruption that his brother does also he is the main reason that Zuko is able to see the coruption of the fire nation himself as well as how Zuko is able to see that his place is as the avatars teacher and not as the exiled prince, Iroh is literaly the only man I will ever love hes like the father I never had, not that I have a bad relationship with my dad, its just that Iroh is the man I look up to he is able to do so much for those around him with out sacrificing his charicter or his own morals and I think we can all learn something from Uncle Iroh even if its just to have a nice cup of jasmin tea
next I’ma talk about Ozi I don’t have much to say other than that he is the reason I have trust issues with my country well him and living in the states
Azula honestly I know shes suposed to be a villan but what can I say shes hot also her flirting skills are honestly about as good as mine I also really love that we get to see more than just one out come of having an abusive parent because of her, now I’m not going to diagnose Ozi but if he were to have narssasistic personality dissorder I would not be suprised I mean its supper clear that he uses Zuko as a scapegoat and that Azula is the “golden” child I will say that even though Azula has her issues they are born of her trama I mean she thought her mother didn’t love her the only prase she gets is from Ozi and only if she acts how he wants her to, I think the best example I can think of is when she Mia, Ty lee and Zuko are at the camp fire sharing trama (which like mood) she acts like everyone is just puting on a show to earn sympathy bc she only got love or attention if she put on a show for Ozi if she made sure that she was exactly who he wanted his child to be, you also see this when she is trying to capture Zuko and Iroh she eassaly is able to act like the loving welcoming baby sister Zuko wants she is extreemly skilled at making people see what/who she wants them too, I think its also important to keep in mind when we talk about/think about Azula to remember she was 14, and who knows how young she was when she started being a part of councel meetings, I mean she saw her father burn half her brothers face off at...12? I think
now to touch on Mia, I personaly wish I had a better grasp of her personality bc she is defenatly someone who has a lot to say, I mean that hole “no you miss calculated I love Zuko more that I fear you” like DAMN that was amazing, she is amazing! yet the thing is I really never saw her love for Zuko other than in that one seen like yeah they dated but it was like how kids date in middle school for the title of boyfriend/girlfriend I also feel like she and Zuko only brought the worst out in each other, all I’m saying is that that relationship was bad for her (also I ship her with Ty lee but thats a diffrent convo) all in all I think that she is a very powerfull woman and I think that she sould have gotten more screen time, also as for why I ship her and Ty lee is i mean I couldn’t have been the only one who saw her reaction to Ty lee being with Azula right?
Honestly Ty lee deserved better than she got with her friendship with Azula she was just trying her best to be her own person yet insted she was made to be Azula’s play thing esentally she was since childhood made to follow Azula’s wishes without complaint and when she finally gets herself on a path to happyness Azula comes along and rips that from her, and I jusr want her to be happy like actual real happy
ok an honerable mention before I finish my fire nation post, I will be making a post for every one else as well, that one fire sage who helped Aang he is the real mvp of the fire nation, as well as the poor fire nation teacher who had to teach Aang i have no clue what she is being paid but having to put up with Aang as a student she deserves a rase
and last but definetly not least my favoret, Zuko now I’m not gunna say much on him cus everyone have probably already said it and better than I could, but like his charicter development is some of the best writing ive seen also the fact that we get to see a teen just trying his depressed sleep deprived best is the greatest thing on that show, I just really love that even though his allyances changed his character didn’t he was still just a teen tramatized by war and working towrds peace and prosparety and that is something I can relate to, hes a fuck up but hes doing his damn best
@alfredhoe420 heres some avatar content for you
#fire nation#avatar#character analysis#atla iroh#zuko#atla mai#ty lee#princess azula#ozi#fire sages#mai x ty lee
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The "waifu bait" criticism of Edelgard is so dumb given that most of the cast is technically waifu/husbando bait in one way or another, they're all meant to appeal to players as romance options, and she's the only one getting flack for it. (Well, not the only one, there were some people giving Dimitri shit too for being "wish fullfillment for stupid teenage girls who think they can fix a man," but I see the complaint most often with Edelgard.)
Yeah. I mean, you can boink Rhea and Jeritza!
It’s not like satelite love interests aren’t a plague onto anime and fiction in general, but I only ever hear this “you only like them because they’re waifu/bishie” thing directed at characters who very much DO have personality, unique compelling features and plot relevance.
I’ve also seen this thrown at, say, Evangelion’s Miss Ayanami, as if all the fascinating sci-fi concept stuff and compelling narrative about finding your own worth and making a connection in a cruel lonely world wasn’t there - and at least we do see her through a “main character’s love interest” sorta lens. (I was thinking about how Byleth is actually quite similar, except more proactive with more of a dorky side, and less philosophical/reflective, but because Byleth is the MC we come off with a fairly different impression. )
Meanwhile with Edelgard they really didn’t pull any punches, the whole story is set in motion and dominated by her active choices, most the unique designs/outfits she gets are geared to look elegant/powerful. (Apart from the usual ‘individually wrapped boob armor would break your sternum’ thing but you’d really have to know physics for that/ could be fixed easily by making the fit more sweater-like), she has a specific discernable philosophy and makes impactful choices, that can genuinely be agreed or disagreed with.
You can’t swag her into your way of thinking - you can only ally with her under the presupposition that you already actively agree. (See all the people complaining that you cant “criticise her more”, expecting her to be like Dimitri basically even though they are exact opposites. You can only get on her route by making two deliberate choices. I mean they wrote this with your first playthrough in mind, in-universe you’re not there because you wanna complete all aroutes but because you actively chose to join her after she spent a year unsubtly trying to recruit you to her cause)
You don’t talk Claude out of his tactics either. (and forcing it all into this comparision often leads ppl to overlook that he has ambiguities or character development at all, maybe he isn’t vilified but he gets simplified and therefore wronged just as much in the end. They’re not all Dimitri. The whole point of having three or four different potential deuteragonists to choose from is that they’re different)… heck, even if you look at Dimitri, you only get him back to what he really wanted to do back in part I before his black-and-white thinking and exaggerated sense of duty got the better of him.
With all three, joining them eventually just enables them to get closer to their actual vision. Back when you meet her in Remire, Edelgard outright tells you that “with your power on my side, we could courttail the slitherer’s atrocities much more efficiently”. You don’t change her mind at all; You enable her to use “Plan A”. Same with Claude, who otherwise plains much more defensively both because he has less support and because he’s more jaded. And Dimitri essentially pulls a Sayaka, ie being unable to live up to his own unrealistic standards drive him to lose all hope and become the very opposite of the hero he wanted to be, but you do help him get back to that, or to a more balanced mature understanding of that.
The best proof of that is that the popularity poll numbers actually went down after the release, ie a lot of ppl who liked her just bc they liked her design were turned off that there’s a specific personality there that isn’t necessarily their type/ a MO they don’t necessarily agree with. Or all those peeps complaining that the S-support was too understated for them. Claude got that too - They’re just not the most open/expressive people in the world, one would think that after playing through their routes you would know and understand that. Whereas Dimitri has been super emotional from day one (which is both his greatest strength and greatest weakness), so it figures that he’d be more conventionally romantic.
- Hardly things that would happen if she were written to be “blandly pleasant”. I mean generally speaking she’s not the best as showing her feelings and when she does she’s often pretty blunt at it even with her closest friends (El: ”Hubert! I order you to tell me what it is you’re not telling me!” Hubert: [elegantly weasels out of answering] El: [after he’s left the room] I’m worried about him tho. )
Seems senseless to claim that she’s blandly pleasant when she’s absolutely gotten a love-it-or-hate-it-marmite-reaction all across the board. It also seems to go along with the implicit idea that everyone who likes her is heterosexual boys. I’m neither, and it’s not like heterosexual boys aren’t ever interested in “plot” or “writing” I mean geez. Though I would resist the temptation to fully ascribe it to things like that.
To an extent it’s simply confusion. “How can they like this thing that obviously sucks? Must be an ulterior motive”, whereas in reality ppl who like her have probably parsed what happened here differently to begin with (It depends greatly on how powerful you concluded Rhea was, ie, wether what Edelgard is doing is a conquest or a revolt. She certainly sees it as a revolt. Even today in the modern day most of us see revolts as legitimate, or at least, if they get overly destructive, as a fault of the bad government. Heck, there are many on this very site who would label all revolts legit by default (”eat the rich”, the more ‘original sin-like’ variants of privilege theory) which is further than I would go )
There certainly are a bunch of ‘cute’ scenes post holy-tomb scene and under the assumption that Edelgard is this my-way-or-the-highway type of person that many have her pegged as I can see how they might think that it “makes no sense” but that’s really down to wanting her not tp step outside of that idea they have of her. I mean even supervillains have silly everyday situations. Bin Laden loved Disney Movies, Hitler loved his dogs. By itself that has nothing to do with morality or likeability. It’s just being human. Supervillains blush, not because they’re not villains, but because they have blood vessels in their faces. It’s only logical that once you get close to someone and get them to trust you, you get to see more of their silly or vulnerable sides. It’s the same with Rhea. (except that the same people argue that having personable vulnerable sides at all makes Rhea good s of course it causes some cognitive dissonance when Edelgard also has them. I’ve yet to see ppl calling “waifuism” on Rhea (whom I would consider a full-fledged villain), and they shouldn’t - it’s characterization.) Same with ppl calling Edelgard a “manchild” for liking stuffed animals and sweets. She’s actually very mature and adult for her age, having some interests that aren’t super high-minded is just realistic and if you looked at her as a full 3D person who can have more than one trait you’d see that.
This also goes with that tendency of holding up AM as the gold standard complaining about the lack of AM-like plot that they completely miss the different but equally compelling character arcs in VW and CF. That’s not a lack of arc, that IS the arc, it’s just a different arc: We get to see this tough, in-control high-minded character who’d completely given up on the normal life she wanted so much and resigned herself to never being understood finding out that she is very much still capable of normalcy and humanity and finding friendship and love and I think that’s beautiful. It’s my jam.
And it’s meaningful precisely because it’s a change from only seeing the tough leader guise otherwise. Complaining about that is like complaining about getting to see Claude’s more wistful, dreamy, benevolent, not-entirely self-interest side in VW or claiming that the writing would be better if he were just a straight-up selfish trickster. Actually, if you removed their heroic traits you’d end up with a lot more generic characters. You’d simply get every wild card trickster ever, and every “Nietzschean” villain ever. It’s the fact that they’re unconventional heroes that makes Claude and Edelgard so unique, compelling and interesting. If you like conventional heroes, Dimitri is right here. Your basic heroic fantasy ‘rightful king returns/ soft peace loving hero’, plus your basic jrpg guilt-ridden angsty protagonist. I mean there’s good reason that these character archetypes are popular. Plus he’s especially well-executed and recontextualized by the contrast to the others, but there he is, enjoy him! We’re not stopping you.
It’s really Seteth who came up short arc wise. You could have given him an arc, the potential was there, he essentially transistions from protecting himself and his family to taking on his family’s heroic quest and rising up to that, but he doesn’t get like, a scene reflecting on that. Or you could’ve sent them on some mission to actually curb some corrupt cardinals etc, shown them actually reforming the church and realizing that it wasn’t all perfect, after all he very much knows that Rhea herself wasn’t all perfect.
For all that much of media is obsessed with making characters “hot”, the truth is that if people like them for any reason, they will find them hot anyways, regardless of whether that was the intention. (unless the people in question are aroace, or the character is a literal, realistic prepubescent child)
You don’t have to “make” a character hot for ppl to find them so.
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Does Wanda like movies about witches? Like Hocus Pocus, The VVitch, The Witches, The Craft... (with the last two I'm talking about the originals, not the new bad remakes bc I'm super tired of remakes, at least they could remake movies that didn't get enough recognition back in their day) I'm really curious about the way Wanda feels about witchcraft-themed movies because she's an actual witch, I know there are a lot of modern witches today, but Wanda has literal magic powers
{out of paprikash} Oooh, this is an interesting question! And honestly, it has a very boring answer, haha. Wanda probably hasn’t seen a single one of these movies because she doesn’t watch television very often, and when she does it’s usually the news. But for the sake of argument, I’ll tell you what her reaction to each of them might be… with the exception of The VVitch, as I have not seen than one myself.
Hocus Pocus (1993)
I think Wanda would like this movie… if she could get past the first ten minutes of it. Watching anything bad happen to a child is very disturbing for Wanda, and I think Emily’s death would have bothered her a great deal. She probably would cry. But assuming she could get past that part, I think she would find a story about children taking matters into their own hands and being brave in the face of evil to be very uplifting. And I think she would appreciate the humor. She would very much like and root for the character of Thackery Binx. What’s not to love there? Wanda had her own protective big brother, so she would feel an affection for Thackery trying to save his little sister and wanting to protect Dani. And she loves cats, so he’s doubly a cool character. I think she would also feel a lot of sympathy for Billy, heh. So I think that, assuming she sticks it out past Emily’s death, Wanda would like this movie a lot.
The Witches (1990)
This movie has the same problem that Hocus Pocus had… a child dies right in the beginning of it, heh. And the manner in which Erica dies… being trapped in a painting and forced to live out her days getting older and older alone until one day she just disappeared… That would bother Wanda soooo much. Being left alone without any loved ones is one of her greatest fears, so I think she would feel a lot of sadness for this poor little girl who fell prey to an evil witch and had to live her whole life alone. She definitely would cry. But then assuming she didn’t turn it off right then and there, I think she could really get behind the story of a boy being so brave, even in the face of being turned into a tiny mouse, to go up against so many evil witches, cats, cooks with carving knives, and a rather irritating and meddlesome hotel manager to do the right thing for children everywhere. I think she would have actually liked the character of Susan Irvine, an evil witch who defects and changes her ways, becoming a good one. Most of all, I think she would have really loved the grandmother, because she would have reminded her of her own grandmothers, both of which she remembers fondly from her very early childhood. So yeah… I think she’d like this movie too, if she kept watching past poor little Erica’s fate.
The Craft (1996)
This movie… would have pissed Wanda off, frankly. And scared her a little. Magic isn’t something to play games with, and neither is invoking the assistance of lesser deities. And they certainly should never be used to harm others unless it’s a dire, life or death situation. Getting back at other kids for teasing you… is not a good reason. However, she would have had a lot of sympathy for Nancy, because it seems like she was really going through some bad things. But using the power of a god for evil because you feel powerless in your own life is not the solution. She would want to see Nancy get some counseling. Wanda would also identify a lot with Sarah and her feelings about losing her mother. Wanda’s been there and she knows how rough that is. She would also applaud Sarah for ultimately not falling into the power-craving traps that the other girls did and for trying to oppose her wayward friend. Overall, I think this movie would have given her a lot of things to think about, such as the grave consequences of misusing magic, what can happen to you if you rely on the gods to solve your problems, and the huge responsibility it is to be a natural-born magic wielder.
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