#liberal feminism is bad

[apilgrimpassingby]

Mark my words - if the kind of people who support liberal feminism had grown up in the Victorian period, we'd have things like "child labour is labour!", "feature more child labourers in books" and "kidboss children's movement."

Perhaps someone should do a spoof advert about that as a bit of dark comedy.

[taliabhattwrites]

In order to not commit the widespread sin of pissing on the poor, I am actually reading the 'Third Wave' feminist literature that has shaped mainstream feminist discourses both in the modern academy and the general zeitgeist.

And let me tell you, calling the 'Third Wave' less white, middle-class, elitist, or "Ivory Tower" than its predecessor is a pretty funny punchline to the joke that is feminist historiography.

The sheer postfeminist, post-strucuralist, navel-gazing, choicefem, "the struggle for equality is largely over and we are past the need for an organized movement" sentiments overflowing from the influential works here is making me want to peel my skin off. 'Third Wave' feminism was not spared "End of History" disease. No, it did not adequately address or integrate the concerns of women of color or working-class women. No, it did not incorporate intersectionality until the 2010s, when Crenshaw's work was popularized not by academic feminists but by the liberal feminist blogosphere. And no, it did not meaningfully engage with trans or queer oppression or care to really repudiate second-wave transmisogyny--a quick look at bell hooks' Is Paris Burning?, where she quotes Marilyn Frye and refuses to call the film's subjects trans, should tell you all you need to know there.

The era of feminism that gave us the girlboss was not a particularly inclusive wave, funnily enough.

[stormyromance]

if you’re a radical feminist defending your right to suck dick and cup the balls I think you should let it go. Is pleasing a man sexually really the hill you want to die on? If it is, I don’t think this is for you. If you want to hear “YAS GIRL, GET THAT DICK!” Then go to the libfems or to a gay bar or something.

[colombinaa]

What i had to understand in my journey to feminism was that even my leftism needs to be female-centered. The ultimate goals that leftwing men have in mind are misogynistic and thus not the same as mine. Unmasking and rejecting the right is one step, the next is keeping a certain level of distance and criticism of certain leftist views. It is also why i only engage in leftwing (or political in general) debate with other women. I don’t call myself a leftist around any men.

From personal experience i cannot trust the left as it was created: by men, for men. I have to be female-centered before i engage with leftism. This is why it’s important to read feminist literature: their use of leftism is completely female-centered. I think that’s what makes you a feminist; being female-centered. I view myself as someone that shares many leftist views and values, but i’ll always be and describe myself as a feminist first.

[limononada]

There's men unironically thinking "fat camps" should be a thing yet people want you to believe fatphobia isn't real and that it isn't tied to misogyny.

[gaybaseball-fan]

[mrspeacockwasaman]

Barbie movie fucked me up real bad and not even in a good way like it was really funny & pretty but conceptually I wanted to blow my brains out ngl

[missandrisky]

Do you believe that the Female species has been enslaved and oppressed by the male species via the patriarchy for centuries on end while also believing that the only way to truly bring an end to it is to radically restructure society and remove males from positions of power that they gatekeep? Do you ALSO believe that while it isn’t appropriate or liberating in and of itself that things like sex work can be a means for personal liberation (financial freedom) OR that Women who engage in the systems that oppress them still deserve inclusion, advocacy and liberation?

You my friend are NOT a radfem you are a BADFEM (short for “bad feminist”)

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[marklikely]

on further reflection maybe it isn't out of character that i liked the kens over the barbies when a lot of the joke is how the barbies are all blandly nice and hypercompetent which as you may know is like my single most uninterested gender dynamic for fictional characters

[unsearching]

i will never forgive the fake progressives for saying pussy hats were 'white feminist' adjacent when they were

a response to the literal most powerful man in the world being caught on tape casually talking about sexually assaulting women

co-started by a woc??

what about it is inherently 'white feminist'...

[gaybaseball-fan]

“What’s up with what’s going down? In every city and every town”

Did a man kill your dog, too? Nope!!! 👎

[deepseasmetro]

how people (re: radfems) continue to act like somehow the nature of the sex activities themselves are what make a sexual encounter violent baffles the mind. the idea that neil gaiman was allowed to rape so many women for so long because "liberals pressure women into being kinky for #Feminism" and not that he was rich and powerful and was taking advantage of very specifically poor women who were relying on him for housing, food, etc disgusts me in a way i cannot articulate. how is this relevant? how did "sex positivity" allow gaiman to do the same thing many many many men before him have done (leverage their higher social and economic class to coerce and silence victims)?

this is a disgusting attempt to drag very real victims experiencing the very real consequences of a world when men have the social and economic standing to control women and their bodies in the ways they please into the typical garbage radfem bullshit about how BDSM is evil and scary and bad and #normalizes violence. heres the thing you dipshit, sexual violence against women has been normalized for centuries and it certainly was not under the guise of Kink or Freedom of Speech! and had gaiman not had access to this language, he still would have sexually abused women because he was a rich man in a position of power to do so. that's it! it's a very simple material reality! no amount of "sex negativity" will do fucking anything to prevent sexual violence. god.

[misandriz]

pissed me OFF bad like omg how fucking stupid you can be talking about being an ally for an industry which is plagued with child exploitation and human trafficking? an industry where women are getting paid to get raped, an industry which exploits women and children sure fucking sure liberal feminism has done irreversible damage oh my goodness

[genderkoolaid]

desperately need y'all to understand that when i say "no one deserves to be abused, even if they have done extremely harmful things" i am not saying that You, Personally, Must Feel Sad Emotions About Them

i hate this idea we have that feeling a certain away is a requirement to acting a certain way. its the same shit that makes people view low/no-empathy folks as scary/evil/dangerous because they think that acting ethically towards other people requires certain feelings.

i don't think its bad for a white supremacist woman to get horrifically and misogynistically abused by her husband because i like her. it doesn't matter how i feel about her. i have an ethical worldview i choose to follow and part of that is the idea that no one deserves that and everyone deserves support to get away and heal from that. i can both see how harmful her actions have been, and maybe will continue to be, and support people working against the harm of her misogynistic white supremacism, while also acknowledging that she has been unjustly hurt herself and hoping she heals from that (ideally by growing as a person and rejecting those beliefs). it does not matter how i feel, or how cathartic it feels to see her suffer. you don't have to feel sad about a white supremacist getting abused, but you should acknowledge that it's a bad thing and she deserves help and support to escape that.

i will never demand anyone feel a certain emotion, and if i do, i am violating my own beliefs. saying "no one deserves to suffer and its terrible feminism to celebrate misogynistic abuse or to scrutinize whether a victim deserves to be abused based on their own beliefs" is not a command for you to feel sad for anyone. its a call for you to reflect on your actions and whether or not they are ethical and conducive to the goals of feminist liberation.

[everyonesfavoritebard]

Can you tell I’m upset yet?

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[tpwrtrmnky]

People who suck at feminism have been losing their shit at the suggestion that there might be groups of more marginalized women, undermining solidarity in the movement, in every generation of feminism.

It's not new, and it's not the past.

It's a skill issue as common in feminism as bad statistics are in nutritional science.

And I do mean that this behavior constitutes sucking at feminism, because what the behavior does is prioritize the majority group's hangups about other groups in favor of behavior that precludes having a genuine liberation movement for all women, just because it's too hard to stop being a bigot for five fucking seconds.