#label discourse this slur discourse that

[hesgirf]

ohhh my god yall if you don’t identify with the gender you were assigned at birth and you feel comfortable with the transgender label then you are transgender STOP THJS MADNESS “im nonbinary does it count” “im genderfluid can i call myself trans” YES!!!! YOU ARE TRANS

[bonefall]

Anyway. Bi and Mspec Lesbians aren't a hotly "debated" topic or even new to queer culture, it's just the newest thing that bullies who REALLY want to be homophobic and even racist use to justify harassing gay people they don't like.

It's the thinnest possible veneer of progressive language wrapped around TERF and reactionary rhetoric so that they can feel righteous for forming an angry mob against vulnerable targets. If you're gullible enough to fall for the newest wave of bigotry within the queer community, and turn on your allies because they're "confusing" or "invading your spaces," the SAME way they turned on bi/pan labels, trans people, xenogenders, neopronouns, and aroace people before this, then get lost.

[hgedits]

It doesn't take much to make you feel the way you felt. Back there again. Skin all raw.

[kiwisandpearls]

I feel like some people in the queer community really need to reconcile with the fact that while they might not be comfortable using a certain label someone else will be and that’s ok, but the appropriate reaction to the information of someone using a label that personally makes them uncomfortable probably is not to immediately assume that that person is actually in some way bigoted.

[notyourdeliveryservice]

I wish Captain James Flint was real so I could go back in time and tell him that 65 countries now celebrate independence from Britain :///

[falinscloaca]

one of the most important aspects to be learnt of being a political thinker online, a passive or active viewer of sociopolitical discourses and marginalization, is that just because you find someone to be “wrong” on a subject, have a bad take on a words definition or have shitty political/strategic takes, or just be fucking annoying to you personally, doesn’t make them stop being from the same marginalized group or group-of-groups as yourself. tragically sometimes a comrade-in-arms also just fucking sucks without it being a cishetero bourgeois psyop or a more-particularly-advantaged-yet-still-marginalized-group punching down. like there can be “self-hating” people from demographics actively trying to oppress said demographics but 9 times out of 10 Kaleb from My Discourses isn’t a Dennis Prager rubbing elbows with literal nazis he’s just that dipshit who thinks Judaism as a social category necessitates matrilineal affiliation (even though the people that actively hate Judaism as a social category don’t conceive of it as such). For example I mean.

this should really go without saying but good fucking god my own time in the ‘strangers with a word or two in common trying to kill each other online’ trenches neeeeded

[transexualpirate]

in case you didn't know a few ""leftist"" transphobes (mostly terfs) have already started attacking drag queens and drag shows because of "over sexualization of women" (how is that different from what the far right is doing at the same time i Do Not Know but ok)

not all drag queens identify as trans. matter of fact, most that i personally know of, do not.

it's not just trans people. it started with us. we called for help. nothing happened. it's spreading, and it's already at another one of lgbt+ history most important art. how far else are they gonna let this go?

[venacoeurva]

People (usually youngish with no in depth/actual understanding of lgbtq+ community/history/culture pre-2010s) who get irritated with people reclaiming related slurs they’ve had used against them and others for being whatever they are and use them for themselves with a sense of control and power are so wild,

like yeah dipshit that’s why we do it. I rip the teeth from the mouth of the bigot and smile at them with mine.

[r1ghtwhereyouleftme]

Me: I hate [insert thing here] discourse

Also me: *gets so annoyed when people are blatantly stupid and do things thay make zero sense therefore making me go along with discourse bc I can only handle so much stupidity*

[birthclod]

Anyways I love being a dyke and if you can't handle that you can leave

[diarydiarydiaryblank]

genuinely don't care what people say. but i will never give a fuck about mspec lesbian discourse EVER. especially when we're going through a borderline queer genocide and you dipshits wanna think about the most correct way to be a faggot.

[bossbabyofficial]

honestly most of my queer discourse takes can be summed up with that i find it infinitely more useful to focus on what unites us than waste energy and time and energy on pointless discourses like Who Gets To Say Which Slur

[grandfangarbagechan]

I think that there are a lot of people who only experience activism/community through online means. (I don't think this is inherently their fault - there aren't a lot of third spaces, people are overworked, online spaces are much easier to access than transportation to events or meetups, ect.) Because these things only exist online for them, people see words as being the most important thing about them. Because online, words are all that exist.

Because of that, it becomes easy to over-analyze the words, to critique people for not using the right words, to criticize for using old or "outdated" terminology even when the intent is clear.

And people who argue about these things swear up and down that they're morally in the right because the only aspect of activism they've ever experienced is arguing online, often with people who fundamentally agree with them. The words are all they have, so they must be the most important bit.

(This also has the fun side-effect of making it feel like they're doing something to help when really they don't even donate to whatever causes they champion, they don't volunteer, and they have no idea what their local community even looks like. Tweeting at someone who usually won't even swear at you is much easier than the in-person fights that have to happen to make shit better.)

[nyancrimew]

y'all can stop sending me asks about whether i consider femboy a slur btw, this is stupid fucking discourse. just like any other label it is okay to use for yourself, be it as a gender non conforming guy, a non binary person or even a transfem, but just randomly applying it to other people is obviously shitty and can be done with derogatory intent. most use of the word, especially in queer spaces, such as on tumblr, is self describing or about people who self describe as such. you don't have to be comfortable with the term yourself, or with being called that, but that doesn't mean other people using it for themselves or referring to people who use it for themselves is somehow derogatory. we also don't have discourse about whether tomboy is a slur now do we?

[barzfrommarz]

since pride month is coming up remember

flag discourse is not real

slur discourse is not real

lesboy discourse is not real

mspec discourse is not real

trans men/transmascs are queer and we deserve a safe space

afab non binary people are not women lite

amab non binary people are still non binary

companies don’t give a shit about us. Do not praise them (esp since they are backing down bc of conservatives)

asexuals and aromantics are real people who are queer

The A in lgbtqia+ doesn’t not stand for ally. It stands for Asexual, Aromantic and Agender (and any other A label)

stop excluding masculine queer people

Xenogenders and Neoprnouns are valid

Xenogenders and Neopronouns hurt no one or make us look bad and don’t make transphobes hate us any more than they already do

Bisexuals can be in guy/girl relationships (and so on)

Queer platonic relationships are valid

Cishet/Allies are allowed at pride (seriously I saw a tweet from some idiot saying you can’t bring your cis partner to pride)

Real people cannot queerbait. Stop using this as a tool to (intentionally or not) force people to come out

A couple looking cishet or heteronormative does not mean they are

Trans men/Transmascs don’t owe you masculinity

trans women/transfems don’t owe you femininity

Anyone under the Nonbinary umbrella doesn’t owe you androgyny

Uplift Disabled/Neurodivergent/Non white queer/trans voices

Don’t forget about the Queer and Trans people being bombed in Palestine.

Cops aren’t allowed anywhere near pride. All Cops Are Bastards

Zionism,Racism,Antisemitism,Abelism etc is no welcome in the queer community

People who are still in the closet/not out are still part of our community and shouldn’t be forced to come out or be excluded

that’s all I can think of rn. Happy almost pride month 🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍🌈

if you can and it’s safe, consider attending IRL pride events. Stay safe!

[buntress]

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『 ✿ ⋆｡˚ 』 Old Queer

[PT :: Old Queer]

✿ Overview ✿

A blankqueer label // stance for queers who are too old for this shit. It believes that queer // mogai discourse and infighting is stupid and harmful to the community at large and that as long as you aren't harming anyone do whatever the hell you want. One doesn't have to be a specific age to ID with this term, just share the general sentiment. The emoji code is 『 🪻💚 』

✿ Stances ✿

What Old Queer Is ::

Pro MOGAI // Xenogender // Microlabels

Pro Mspec // Contradictory labels

Pro Endogenic // Non-Traumagenic systems and Anti-Syscourse

Pro Queer Education and Research

Pro going outside and becoming active in your irl community

Pro Recovery Paraphilia // Anti-Contact harmful paraphilia

Pro Kink at Pride

Pro Reclamation of slurs

Against the idea of Cluster Abuse ( NPD abuse, BPD abuse, etc)

Anti-Harassment, live and let live.

Pro fucking with bigots for fun

Pro harm reduction

Pro Therian // Otherkin // Alterhuman // Transspecies

What Old Queer isn't ::

Pro Radqueer

Pro TransID

Pro Xenosatanist

TERFs // TIRFs // Gender Crit // Gatekeeping

Exclusionary

Minors in kink // NSFW spaces

Tagging :: @radiomogai @io-archival @redacted-coiner @genderdenied @mimiscoiningcafe @discrophy @dsm--v @kiruliom Simplified flag + color meanings below the cut!

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✿ Design Meanings ✿

Shades of purple and blue-green because the colors purple and green are some of the oldest colors to represent the queer community

Yellow lines to represent queer joy

White to represent unity

Violets because, once more, it is one of the oldest queer symbols we have. While violets originally held a meaning for sapphic love, here it is to represent educating yourself further on queer history to understand your community better.

The lacy top and bottom lines to give it kind of a "grandmas lace" feel, making it feel older!