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dadplagg-mamatikki · 1 year
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Wait, so has anyone wondered what happens to the kwamis during fusions? Like do they chill in their miraculous only? Do they build on each other like the bots in mecha strike in the show?
And also, its never been touched on to my memory about what happens when they transform besides going into the miraculous. I know there's headcanons and other theories where the holder can still hear them or they have a psychological link.
Granted, when Marinette transformed for the first time, she questions where Tikki went and she had no idea. (So maybe when the connection and closeness with the Kwami.)
But its never been discussed officially.
Movie spoiler below the line.
I liked how the movie showed the kwamis coming in and out While the persons transformed. So that was neat.
And showed how they were moving around and whatnot.
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graaythekwami · 1 year
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Chloe's Amok
So I kind of have a random theory on what Chloe's amok could be if she ends up being a senti like the other rich kids, and I'm thinking it is this bracelet:
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Yes, I know Rogercop is way back from season one and that we haven't seen this bracelet since, but here me out.
Now how Chloe and Andre act this episode isn't anything new for their characters, but there are a few things I find slightly interesting. First of all Chloe isn't wearing the bracelet at all, but keeping in a special case. Chloe doesn't strike me as the type to keep something carefully tucked away when she could be wearing it and showing it off to the world. So why is she this time? Not that I think she would have told it was an amok, but I could totally see a conversation about how important this piece of jewelry is and how it is absolutely priceless before it was given to her.
Of course this is speculation, but what isn't is what we see in this episode. When Chloe shows the bracelet to Sabrina she goes to immediately grab it, suggesting that Chloe hasn't been against Sabrina touching her things in the past. Of course Chloe is rude in telling Sabrina not to do so, then we get this line from Andre:
"Put it away, Chloé! It could get in the wrong hands!"
I mean yes it probably is expensive, but so is every other thing Chloe owns? And I don't think it would be out of budget for Andre to buy Chloe another bracelet if something were to happen to it, and it is a bit strange to not let her wear her own jewelry.
Unless this isn't just a bracelet, but rather his daughter's life force that he doesn't want in the wrong hands or anyone to know about it because whoever holds it controls Chloe?
From here the bracelet goes missing thanks to a combination of Marinette tripping and Plagg, the blame immediately being put on Marinette, and being passed around the classroom from there. Again I don't think Chloe's insistence for Marinette being searched is surprising, or the mayor backing her up on this, but I do find it interesting that Andre doesn't try to placate Chloe at all like he usually does when she starts making demands. There's no "Chloe dear" or "My little princess", but immediately Andre is trying to get Roger to do some illegal searches on a teenager.
Of course Roger is then also immediately fired over something that has no relation to his job (there's no actual proof the bracelet was stolen instead of just being missing at this point!). And there's no pressure by Chloe to have Roger fired, Andre does this to someone very loyal to him on his own accord.
Later Andre also tries to have Nino's phone taken so the video can be reviewed by professionals as they try to track down this bracelet thief. He's wasting no resources or power plays here to find the bracelet, and also goes after the principal of the school as well:
"I'm warning you! If you don't find my daughter's bracelet by this evening, I'll cut off all your city funds for the school. Understood?"
I mean him throwing around his power as mayor isn't anything new... but why not buy a new bracelet at this point instead of targeting everyone who isn't involved? And like before there is no influence or demand from Chloe at this point for Andre to keep this all up, but he's not letting up about this missing bracelet.
We also get this interaction between Andre and Roger too when he's fired:
"Mayor, you can't be serious! Over a missing bracelet?" "This is my daughter's bracelet we're talking about!"
Your daughter's bracelet? Or perhaps your daughter's life force?
Again, this attitude and demands is in no way strange for the Bourgeois family, rather I just find all the details in between this interesting, and that it could be implying that this bracelet is something more than just a regular piece of jewelry.
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Now for the other major reason I think this could be Chloe's amok (or at least something more than just an average bracelet): Plagg's interaction with this bracelet.
Now I don't think Plagg can sense amoks or would know that an object is one, but I don't think it would be out of reason for him to notice something about it. He's a magical being, or why shouldn't he have a response for other magical things?
Plagg immediately takes a liking to this bracelet, at first thinking it was cheese. Upon discovering that it isn't cheese though, he isn't too disappointed (Plagg. Not upset about not getting any Camembert when he thought he was??). He also gets pretty reckless by not only staying in Chloe's bag, but throwing the bracelet up into the air where it could have been seen by others. Now Plagg isn't exactly the most responsible, but he's also not stupid, so I thought this was worth noting. (Especially by him not being mad it wasn't cheese. Personally I think Plagg would be really upset to find there was no cheese.)
Then of course this is where the bracelet gets lost, with Plagg stuck inside of it, and Adrien smuggles him away. And Plagg is stuck in the bracelet. The kwami is stuck. The kwami is stuck inside of an object when they can phase through any solid material. It's not like Plagg is under any orders not to phase through bracelets, and yet he is still stuck!
I'm sure we've all wondered why Plagg doesn't just phase out of it before, and we've never given a reason.
So... what if magic has something to do with it? Like there isn't any canon that we have that states kwamis can't phase through certain things, but if it was going to be anything I think a magical object created by another kwami's powers that's hosting someone's life force fits the bill.
Then finally, we get this bit of information:
"What do you mean I can't transform?" "If you transform, the bracelet will get absorbed with me and damage your powers!"
This is a bit of canon lore that we never hear of or see come into play again. We've seen transformations happen with kwamis in pockets, bags, hidden away, in another room, having a piece of food in their paws: but never has any of these physical objects with the kwamis or them standing between them and their Miraculous ever stopped a transformation, get transformed with them, or damage their powers in any form. Either Plagg was lying about this fact, or this bracelet had properties that were different from everyday objects that could impact magical transformations.
And honestly, a Miraculous and an amok aren't too different from each other. They're both an object that gives a magical being a physical form, allows them to be controlled, and can grant powers. While unification between kwamis exist, maybe them merging with other magical entities is in fact dangerous?
And we have seen interesting properties between amoks and transformations in canon. We have seen Gabriel transformed while giving orders to Adrien, and touch right where the amok ring would be even though it clearly isn't there or under the glove. Even if it isn't physically present it still exists in some form when a human transforms while wearing an amok, and the magic that binds the sentis to orders is still there.
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As for why we never see the bracelet again? I imagine Andre thought it was way too dangerous to let Chloe have her own amok after everything that happened during Rogercop, and took it back to keep it safe once more.
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Transmission left me in such a daze that I had to make a second post about it!
The fact that Adrien was okay with throwing his own pictures in the trash because he wanted to respect her wishes but couldn't tolerate Marinette saying bad things about her own self.
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While I have nothing against either Alya or Zoe having the miraculous... wasn't the whole point of the Kwami of luck/destruction that their holders must complete one another??? HOW CAN THEY JUST BE GIVEN TO RANDOM PEOPLE?? (I can be super off mark with this)
I LOVED the parenting parallels throughout the episode
Natalie recognized Adrien's distress and acted as a MOM in her own right and even warned Gabriel to not use his son for once.
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The scene when Tom and Sabine just slowly shut the trapdoor upon realizing that their daughter needs to have this moment.
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And then we see Gabriel... who not just saw his son's sorrow as an opportunity twice but also manipulated him into wearing the Alliance ring (God, I hate his so freaking much)
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(Look at his creepy smile. GET HIM AWAY FROM ADRIEN ASAP)
And finally, WHY DOES GABRIEL'S ALLIANCE LOOK LIKE EMILIE IN A WEDDING DRESS???? This man is SICK.
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Emotion l Illusion l Perfection l Protection l Elation l Passion l Transmission (Part 1) l
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About the Paris special...
Me and my friends were disccusing the new miraculous world paris special and a thought crossed my mind, is there any chance Supreme in the alternate Paris is being assisted by the Kwami Null?
For context Null is the Kwami of nothingness,the overaching antagonist of the pv who assisted Gabriel/Richard Sphinx in the discarded concepts, Null desires to revert the world back to it's original state before the big bang.
Little is known about Null's personality from the concepts, except that he is an antithesis for Tikki and Plagg, or Gimmi the kwami of reality, he could give Richard the ability to see insight from the future to assist in his plan of world domination to relieve the pain he felt from his wife's disapearence, he was basically an earlier version of Nooroo .
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Regardless of who Supreme really is(my money's on Fu or The order of the guardians in general), they're rule over the alternate world has turned it into a dystopia with only Hesperia and the resistance rebelling to achieve a brighter future,but another thing to focus on is Supreme put a seal on Plagg and Tikki restricting their free autonomy and more importantly their ability to shift into Gimmi take into account that in the original pv Null was the one who essentially trapped Plagg and Tikki in the miraculous to begin with to prevent their interference in his plan.
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I don't know our theory could very well be a stretch but a lot of discarded concepts from the original pv have been reappearing in different versions such as Felix,Sparrow,Mime etc so it's very possible for Null to make an appearence at some point, he is essentially the antithesis to Gimmi and the concept of an evil Kwami is very interesting and would make sense they are powerful entities it's not possible for all of the Kwami's to be forces of good especially someone who is the exact opposite of Tikki and Plagg the universe should remain in balance that's something that's been continuously said throughout the show, like Tikki and Plagg are opposites to eachother, Null could be the antithesis to Gimmi.
But I lowkey don't have much faith in the series to pull this off properly and regardless of whether or not in the alternate universe or the canon universe hey a girl can dream, I just really wanna see Null so bad.
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dried-deep-sea · 2 months
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So I know everyone likes to imagine that the Ying yang pairs that the kwamies have correspond with the cannon and fannon ships. But think about that for a moment, that means Perfection and emotion are opposites, as are Protection and illusion? I don't like the message the former sends and the latter sounds like nonsense.
That doesn't make sense, not the same way Creation and destruction do. So I'd like to put forth what I think they are. I haven't got all of them so feel free to add in if you think one is wrong or have an idea.
Creation🐞 Destruction 🐈‍⬛️
Subjection🐝 Exaltation🐅
Illusion🦊 Intuition🐍
Transmission🦋 Protection🐢
Perfection🐉Derision 🐒
Migration🐎Determination🐂
Pretension🐓Evolution🐇
Multiplication🐁
Emotion🦚
Jubilation🐷
Adoration🐶
I left out the ones that I'm unsure how they fit, and ones I'm sorta shakey on. I'd like to preemptively state this isn't supposed to be used a ship chart. Disregard the holders and think about the kwamis themselves.
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almadesarrollo · 6 months
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MLB SEASON 6 FELINETTE'S BIG TRACK IN JEREMY ZAG'S VIDEO (new Miraculous scenarios via Instagram) ANALYSIS AND FELINETTE CLUES FOR S6 PART 4 marinette's balcony : THE CHAIR.
PART 3 : THE BALLS AND color symbology
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3 THE CHAIR: LET'S TALK about the chair or lounger that Marinette always has on her balcony, it has undergone changes, so let's go in parts. Let's talk first about its use both in the first seasons and in the last ones and then about its design
use SEASON 1-5
A lounge chair is a place to lie down and rest, relax, however, if we see in detail all the Miraculous seasons from 1 to 5 including all the specials and others MARINETTE HAS NEVER USED IT, and there are no excuses, she has He occasionally uses the wooden stools he has where the tea is, the little table, even the balls are on when it's night, but he has never used the lounger, does this mean something? Well, it clearly means that at no point in the series has Marinette felt calm, and this is a fact, right? As the chapters progress, we can see how she was increasingly pressured and stressed, this is mainly due to her role as a guardian.
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So is there anyone who has used it? AJA plagg in the kwami ​​buster chapter.
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And why is this chapter characterized? Because of two things in particular, the danger of identities and the role as guardian, we can see how in this chapter, the identity of the two is in danger to such an extent that two neurons function. And if you wonder if Marinette is Ladybug, so she does everything to create an alibi and thus divert attention.
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This shows that she clearly lives stressed 24/7 due to the danger of her secret identity (which will lead to her ruin) but also in this chapter she proves to be a guardian and carrier with a lot of potential, to the point of holding a lot of miraculous and endure the enormous power, thus demonstrating that she has a lot of talent and potential but that it exhausts her in her civilian life due to all the responsibilities that it entails.
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So, these are clues between now and season 6 that she will burst, and will need support (something we discuss a lot in these analyses, right?) What support? Félix as chatnoir, Where's the Clue? In it she said that PLAGG IS THE ONE WHO RESTS ON THAT CHAIR, COME ON, THE SOLUTION TO THIS IS GOING TO BE FOR FÉLIX TO HAVE THE MIRACULOUS AND NOT ADRIEN.
use SEASON 6.7 ETC..
Here things change and the first thing we see in the sequence is Marinette lying down, with the book on her face, resting, sleeping? The point is that here you can see that she uses it and she is relaxed, let's look at the pose.
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It is the same pose as the one FU IN SANDBOY had, this indicates that in S6 onwards, she will experience certain events that, as we have already said in a previous post, will make her mature, and of course she will become wiser, she will end up finding balance in his life, and also peace, he will know how to organize himself and will grow, he will be a great guardian. We remember that FU had a great trauma that weighed on him because of what he did in the temple, however he knew how to find peace in his life and balance, and move forward protecting the box with all her knowledge, she will overcome it.
but of course in this process she will not be alone, Félix will help her on an emotional level, remember that if you read my posts, THROUGH FU THEY TALK TO US ABOUT FELIX
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so there is the clue, but also, Marinette is asleep with a book, this element is represented by Felix, since he loves reading.
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Marinette will, let's say, be able to rest in Félix from her duties as guardian, he will be her assistant and will help her in various tasks, which will make her suffer less.
-SEASON 1-5 DESIGN
Let's talk about the design, those pink and white lines are references to the character ROSE.
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THROUGH ROSE THEY TELL US ABOUT ADULT MARINETTE, what do we know about her? Well, she is a girl of pure goodness and is seriously ill.
here we have SEVERAL big clues about the future of MARINETTE S9 onwards, if 9 not S6, TO START, THIS WILL POSSIBLY BE THE DESIGN THAT MARINETTE WILL HAVE WHEN SHE IS AN ADULT, NOTE THAT ROSE PHYSICALLY LOOKS LIKE MARINETTE EXCEPT FOR THE HAIR, WHAT DID WE DO? SAID PREVIOUS POST? that she would dye you blonde, it is possible that in the future she would even cut it, because in THOMAS' conceptual art we saw a ladybug with very short hair,
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SHE ALSO WILL LOSE HER MEMORY, THIS WOULD BE A CONFIRMATION THAT FÉLIX WOULD TAKE CARE OF HER WHEN SHE LOSES HER MEMORY.
Now, as for her way of being, it goes without saying that she sees goodness in everything, she sees life in pink, which would not speak of Marinette's maturity, of seeing love in everything, of her complete healing as it was given to her. understand in the inverse special.
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This is a spoiler for the final result of the evolution that Marinette will have, she will heal and see love in everything, it will be pure love (like Rose and her way of seeing life)
Now for that she will give herself her place, as we have said, she will focus on herself, self-love and goals, which is why the sunbed is also pink and white, its colors, which are in all her clothing design and sewing and drawing objects. Now look at the order of shades of pink, it goes from the lightest to the darkest or strongest as if the presence were powerful, for me that tells us about its process and evolution, that is, as we see the chapters and seasons the urgency By focusing on herself she will be more POWERFUL, there will come a time when she will have to change.
-SEASON DESIGN 6.7 ETC..
The chair is SKY BLUE. Who does this color belong to? aha to bunnix,
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Bunnix is a vital piece in the series, she makes sure that all events happen as they should, she protects the future, and returns to the past if something does not happen as it should, but THIS COLOR ALSO TALKS TO US ABOUT FÉLIX , and it does it through bunnix.
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What do you want to tell us? that in the future, Marinette will look more rested, thanks to Félix.
It will be like a burrow where she can go and Félix will be the tender bunny who will make that burrow and will protect it and take care of it.
Felinette would be confirming to us in the future, that would justify why Bunnix doesn't like Chatnoir, because he knows that Chatnoir is Adrien, and the damage he will do to MARINETTE in all aspects, because of how crazy he is.
IT IS POSSIBLE THAT IN S6 bunnix will appear again and give us clues that in the future the felinette will be insured.
SUMMARY: IN S6 ONWARDS FELIX WILL BE THE CORNER WHERE MARINETTE TAKES AWAY FROM HER DUTIES AS A GUARDIAN, HE WILL HELP HER REST AND RELAX, HE WILL RELIEVE THAT BURDEN, BECAUSE HE WILL KNOW ALL HER SECRETS, he will also be in charge of taking care of her when she loses her memory.
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yolowritter · 6 months
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Plagg's past holder is...Not Great™
Hello there everyone, and welcome back to another post! This here is a little something I cooked up for Plagg in "A Case of Ladybug Luck". To give some context, I very much consider the Kwami to be Gods, and treat them like it. So when the story moved towards exploring them further, I decided to write a piece of Plagg with a past holder. Yes, Sullivan's name is a Dark Souls 3 reference. I'm a nerd, sue me. Actually don't, I can barely pay for my readers' therapy. Anyway, this can be read as a standalone, so I figured it wouldn't hurt to post! Enjoy!
Trigger Warnings: Emotional manipulation, extreme apathy, plague and disease, and mass-genocide. Abusing Cataclysm is very dangerous to others.
A man sits on an old throne, inside a forgotten, crumbling keep. The roof has long caved in on one side of the chamber, letting the rain and thunder slip through the many cracks. The halls of this castle are silent, without so much as the squeak of a mouse to interrupt the heavy breathing echoing in the wind. His face is covered by a cracked helmet, one adorned with the faceplate of a panther’s skull. And the rest of the body rests inside an ever-rusting suit of black plated armor, decorated at the knees and shoulders by silver claws. Those very arms extend to wrap around the body, as if in a tired, pointless gesture of protection. Pontiff Sullivan sits upon his dusty throne on an eerily quiet night, with only the occasional strike of thunder to shatter the silence.
Beyond what tired eyes can see lies the rest of the keep, a forgotten Lord’s castle than once stood tall and proud. Moss and tangled vines have begun growing on the exterior walls, most of the windows blown to pieces by howling winds, and not a single soul’s footprint to be found. Rather, all Plagg can see with his endless eyes are the harsh claw marks on the ground, another result of his master’s choice of adornment. On the bottom side of Sullivan’s boots lay the jagged claws of a fierce black panther, a terrifying beast whose presence haunts every speck of air the God of Destruction can perceive. By his rough estimate, Plagg guesses it must have been at least two decades since even a stay cat set foot inside this old keep, at the top of a small hill overlooking a small town. Even the massive greatsword laying against the throne’s arm has been gathering dust, slowly eroding with the passage of time.
His master does nothing but sit on this very spot, has not moved in what the Kwami thinks may be weeks or even longer. All ‘round the ancient castle lay dark scorch marks of pure Destruction, one of which is visible through a half-crumbled wall just a few halls away. The howling winds continue to tear the keep apart one stone brick at a time, and Plagg is left only with memories. He recalls the battlefield, those very fields just outside the main gate. Said former testament to human engineering now lies ajar, with worms slowly eating at the wood it’s mad of. But once, many years ago, it had been the sight of war. Sullivan, then a young and determined knight, had finally gathered whichever friends could be mustered to retake his ancestral home from the boy’s uncle. Plagg cannot remember for the life of him if they were actually ever related by blood. Yet…the Kwami cannot find reason for the detail to matter. No, instead his jumps to Sullivan’s bravery and courage, to the sheer presence of shining gold that almost three hundred men had rallied behind. A kind smile and encouraging words had appealed to morals and knightly conviction once, the same features now lay hidden behind a faceless mask.
That boy…is gone now. Plagg knows as much, but is still tethered to this shell of a man, a shattered reflection of valiance twisted into nothing more than self-righteous foolishness. That was why, in the pride of his old age, Sullivan had sent his servants and knights all away to far-off lands, back when a single sliver of goodness still nested in his heart. The breastplate’s tattered cape billows in the wind as the Pontiff finally stands, armor crafted by the magic of Plagg’s Miraculous creaking with every movement. The Kwami feels himself strain as much as the metal plates, having held Sullivan’s pitiful existence together for so long that he, a literal God, has begun to long for the separation that so defined his kin before first contact with humanity. Truly, even being formless once again would be preferable to this horrible stagnation that permeated the very concept of Destruction.
With great effort, a single step is taken, and then another…and another…and another, until eventually the aging Pontiff’s legs have carried them both across the deserted halls and up a staircase that’s barely stable enough to hold a single man’s weight. It’s then, overlooking the surrounding lands from high above, that Plagg finally sees it. His Destruction, the echoes left behind by that great Cataclysm which brought Sullivan and his comrades victory, a gain in which the Kwami had once gladly shared. It’s been so long since he’s observed the full scope of that battle, if only because no mortal should be able to do the same. And yet, the Pontiff takes deep, ragged breaths as he gazes to the black flickers lining the grass, almost as if marking the ground with timeless scorches. Plagg feels it too, the subtle way in which they tremble in warning. He’s already known of course what any deviation from the throne-watching entails, but now it’s fully confirmed.
In the town below, a single traveler rests at a tavern, coughing lightly as if to clear his throat. Not a soul suspects, fewer have even heard the rumors, but what is death if not the slow, methodical destruction of physical matter? What is impending doom, if not something Plagg can feel? The stormy night goes on, and a blinding flash of thunder splits the skies as Sullivan begins to raise his arms. Trembling old bones and half-shattered armor both creak in protest, much more resistance than the God of Destruction can bother mustering. Still, the Pontiff manages to raise his clawed gauntlets up to an opening in the crumbling watchtower’s stones, and murmurs the word under his breath.
Cataclysm. A notion that Plagg had once been proud to personify, when that very same power had turned a legion of bloodthirsty, half-mad men to dust right before Sullivan’s eyes. The Kwami had used it then in desperation, this flicker of divine power. To save his Holder, a brave man he’d grown far too attached to for anyone’s good. With golden hair to match the aura surrounding the young knight, and green eyes glimmering with brilliant rays of hope as banners were raised in victory…Plagg had failed to see the darkness skulking underneath. That same evil was now made manifest in wisping black smoke ‘round the old Pontiff’s clawed arms, with a pained grunt as viscous veins of inky puss flickered to life all across his body.
The once rosy tint of the boy’s cheeks had long been stolen, replaced with a pale, ghastly complexion fit only for the horror stories told about the many creatures which had great aversion from the sun. Plagg hadn’t bothered to learn what the folktales were calling them this century. The black energy crackled all through Sullivan’s body, sapping both his and the Kwami’s lifespans to bring forth the very power that even a God like him had grown to fear. Of course, Plagg had heard the justification countless times, so many that he had truly began to lose count faster than Sullivan lost his mind. Yet it mattered little, when the dark mist of Cataclysm spread throughout the air, carried by howling winds all the way to its unsuspecting victims.
A raspy cough nearly tears through the Pontiff’s lungs, and he desperately clutches a crumbling wall to stay upright. “It’s a mercy, Plagg. They are all sick, and I am the cure…” he speaks the words with a conviction the Kwami once admired, and falls silent once more. In the town below, the Plague has begun to spread, from the traveler to the innkeeper, and then to another. The swirling dark mists flood the air around the slumbering villagers, and Plagg feels each and every bright soul disintegrate into absolutely nothing, leaving naught but tiny specks of ash.
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dairy-godmother · 9 months
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Ok here’s an idea. I know how confusing it is that Tikki knows about the multiverse and how she’s in all of them at once. And I know that it doesn’t make sense because why would nooroo be so sad if he has just as many happy versions? Why don’t they know about cars? Etc. here’s my theory.
Only Plagg and Tikki know about the multiverse thing and only Plagg and Tikki are all in every universe all at once. Just think about it. There’s plenty of other things that are exclusive to Plagg and Tikki that the other kwamis don’t have, and we haven’t seen enough of the alternate universes yet. It would just make so much more sense if the other kwamis didn’t know about it.
Unless I’m missing something, there’s no evidence that any kwami other than tikki knows about the multiverse
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acuteobserv4tion · 1 year
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What if the Cat Miraculous had a second power called "Blight" or "Convulsion" or something where it specifically affects living things? Like, that's a hidden power that Adrien just isn't ready for as Chat Noir, so Plagg hasn't told him about it yet.
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Like, imagine this, but 10 times worse where someone is crying in agony as it spreads through them and their body contorts. And then suddenly it stops, and they're just stuck in place silently screaming. 🤫
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Imagine this boy with that power. Imagine the devastation.
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iwasbored777 · 2 years
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Guys I think that spoiler scene when Adrien tells Marinette "I love you just the way you are" and she tells him "I don't love you" happened shortly after Elation. This is obviously Kwamis Choice. His pictures are still in the garbage bin and he was trying to make a move on her as Adrien but she was heartbroken and didn't want to see him. She's in her pjs crying in her bed, this is obviously right after Elation. Probably after she tells him that she doesn't love him he is depressed too and Tikki and Plagg decide to take things in their own hands so these two would work things out with each other.
And that leaked Adrienette scene when they are in her room and she's taking the pictures of Adrien off of her wall again and he comes back in and asks her if she really meant it when she said she loves him was either in the second part of Kwamis Choice or some episodes later cuz she's on Adrinette train again and she put those pictures back and is angry with herself because she can't confess because something (can't wait for them to show what) is stopping her from it.
Just my theory.
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Ahhhhhh, That why it's called the tales of ladybug and chat Noir. Maybe adrien/chat Noir retelling all about their adventure to forgotten Marinette 🥺🥺🥺🥺
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laterose13 · 1 year
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At this point I feel like Miraculous Ladybug is a series of headcanons, AUs, and fanart that is tangentially related to a 3D cartoon that nobody actually wants to watch any more because the fans have much more creativity.
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I just finished watching Transmission (Kwami's Choice), and it was mesmerizing.
The fact that when he says that they could be different, it doesn't just imply as a relationship, but it could also be a hint regarding his future as a senti-being and hers as destined to lose her memory being the guardian of the miraculous.
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The way Marinette first describes Chat Noir and then Adrien when she says that she can't love anyone... as implying that one is her past and the other her future, both of which she refuses to accept.
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It made me realize why Adriennette has always been a primary ship for me.
In Elation, we saw glimpses of both Marichat and Ladynoir, but none of them have ever felt as grounded as Adriennette. Don't get me wrong, there is love! I'm just not sure there is enough basis for that love to flourish, YET.
While ladynoir is the perfect pairing, them being unable to know each others identities prevent them from forming a deeper relationship, and Marichat felt like a fever dream, extremely desirable but like a time bomb, never letting us know when it'll end.
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This episode showed us the importance of communication and its impact on a relationship, I loved them talking to each other and voicing their thoughts in this episode! Let's hope it continues.
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owlphibiansprite · 8 months
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soo... what are the kwami's yin/yang pairs?
in s4e6 the gardien céleste (celestial guardian) told the kwamis to get back into the box in order of "yin/yang pairs". what does that mean? what would the pairs be?
tikki & plagg because of creation and destruction obviously. perhaps duusu & nooroo?
what about the others...?
anyways
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From Day 10 of Miraculous Discordance's Adrien Augrest: Duusu!
so, uh, yeah, this is Duusu....with Adrien...or what's left of him....
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almadesarrollo · 10 months
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FELIX AND CHATNOIR VOTE RESULTS AND OPINION.
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WOW, I WAS SERIOUSLY SURPRISED BY THE FINAL RESULT, I REALLY COME TO THINK THAT THERE WERE MORE THAN A MILLION PEOPLE WHO SEE FELIX AS A CRAZY PSYCHOPATH RELATIVE TO THANOS HAHAHAHA
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but seriously, it was incredible how big the "yes" is, I'm glad to know that, SINCERELY, FELIX IS BETTER THAN PEOPLE SEE, now, once I do this for all of you who voted "yes" I I am trying to demonstrate by analyzing the series that these are going to happen, in fact from origins season 1 they give us spoilers for this, so if you want Félix to really be a chatnoir and you wonder what his relationship with Ladybug will be like, these in-depth analyzes will help you. interest and just like that you will see that the series is not badly written!!
THANK YOU FOR THE VOTES, LIKES AND FOLLOW ME FOR MORE CONTENT OF THIS TYPE A HUG AND SEE YOU IN NEXT POST.
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