#kushinada-hime

[rosso-scapegoat]

I noticed people posting Kushinada-Hime fanarts & turns out, it’s “Comb Day”. So, naturally, I took it as an excuse to draw one of my favorite interactions from SMTVV :”)

[eirikrjs]

Shin Megami Tensei V: Vengeance Famitsu cover (6/20号 No.1852), Masayuki Doi

[ya-kiri]

Some More 'Interesting' Demon Haunt Moments😊😳😅😆

[p5x-theories]

Shadow battle icons (part three)!

[vinnigami]

August 30 2023

this is my best friend kushinada-hime

[bengallemon]

this game is actually just what its like being broke all the time

[sorapikakaminari]

Susano No Mikoto and Kushinada Hime-sama.

[cake-apostate]

There really isn't a preexisting word for, "the human who holds my missing Knowledge." So I was thinking in a hypothetical SMT5 fanfic where V-kun has to explain his (supernatural) relationship with Aogami/Susano'o in a hurry, he sums it up with several different terms that are technically incorrect but close enough.

V-kun usually tells people he's an avatar, because it gets across that he's a separate person from Susano'o while still occupying his divine space. It also helps explain why his personality is so different from the mythological Susano'o. Under certain circumstances, he might claim to be a reincarnation, since it also gets across that they're not exactly the same person.

The other Nahobino humans might not call themselves avatars, because unlike V-kun, they spend most of the game separated from their other halves. Yuzuru and Yakumo might call themselves champions of their gods, and I see Ichiro and Miyazu saying they have a warlock/patron relationship with Abdiel and Khonsu.

When talking about his relationship with the other Shinto gods, especially Susano'o's immediate family, V-kun claims to be his son. The whole pantheon knows it's not the literal truth, but it's a compromise to retain a degree of separation. After all, V-kun can't call himself the husband of Kushinada-hime nor the father of Suseri-hime, but they'll accept it if he calls himself their stepson and stepbrother respectively. (Whether Aogami and V-kun have an actual father/son relationship is irrelevant at this time.)

[sasukeless]

hii lulu i had a question, do u know what gods/deities the sasuke&itachi fight parallels (if it parallels at all) I have like a half blurry memory of u talking abt this some time ago and since I'm making a short comic for sasukes bday I wanted to add some references :) hope ur doing well <3

helloo, i’m doing okay thank you. hope you’re doing well too<33 and ohhh that sounds really interesting i cant wait to see it!

as for the question. the fight has a reference to the myth of yamata-no-orochi that it’s about the god susanoo defeating yamata-no-orochi a giant serpent of eight heads that kept devoring the daughters of ashinazuchi and tenazuchi each year. kushinada-hime being the youngest was the last one that was about to be sacrificed as well but was saved by susanoo who killed yamata-no-orochi with a sword in exchange to marry kushinada-hime.

obviously in the fight orochimaru is meant to be yamata-no-orochi with his eight branches technique, and itachi is meant to be susanoo that kills yamata-no-orochi with totsuka sword (that’s how itachi’s sword is also called) and sasuke is meant to be the maiden that’s rescued here from being devoured/being consumed by orochimaru. also the sword orochimaru pulls from himself is literally called the kusanagi sword that in the myth the kusanagi sword is found by susanoo inside yamata-no-orochi after it’s killed. anyway this all a short explanation so i’d recommend reading the legend by yourself for better inspo maybe?

and back to the question since kushinada-hime married susanoo she is a goddess. tho sasuke also can be referenced as izanami. since sasuke and naruto are obviously izanami and izanagi, especially with their whole yin and yang symbolism. here’s a post that explains it better

i hope this was helpful!

[bigsoftmarshmallow]

Okay, so I'm pretty sure you liked one of the posts that partially talks about their backstory, but I don't think you've read anything about Karina specifically.

h/t/t/p/s://www.tumblr.com/aikoiya/721484702337351680/loz-karina-goddess-of-love-passion?source=share

This is pretty important to her as a character, but so it this:

h/t/t/p/s://www.tumblr.com/aikoiya/727413120124993536/loz-gerudo-pantheon?source=share

The thing about a lot of those scenes is that they would mostly only happen before Demise became Demise. Afterwards, he'd be more likely to actively try & r*pe her.

Like, yes. I always wanna give characters a chance, but the problem is that unless a character wants to change, then they won't.

Do not pass go & do not collect $200. The buck stops with you.

Yes, he could reform, but he doesn't want to. I see him as the type whose addicted to the chaos & the hate & the bloodshed & the carnage.

In some ways, he reminds me of the Joker. "Some people wanna watch the world burn."

As Demise, he is too far gone. However, Ganondorf, to me, acts like his Sword of Damocles.

Yes, Ganondorf is Demise's hatred reborn, his Ara Mitama, but that isn't all he is. He's also human. Meaning that he can change given the right influences.

Which means that Ganondorf is both Demise's hatred upon the world & Demise's best chance at any form of salvation.

In all honesty, I tend to take a degree of influence from Shintoism & Buddhism with him. While I don't believe in such philosophies IRL, they do give me new & interesting angles to look at characters from.

And my depiction of Demise takes a degree of influence from Susano-o. And, he's known for having been cast out of the heavens to live as a mortal (though, with the things he could pull, he must've been a mortal sorcerer).

But, the thing is, there is a shitton of evidence to suggest that the actual curse that Demise placed upon Link & Zelda isn't reincarnation. Because reincarnation already existed within their world &, according to Shinto & Buddhist philosophy, every living thing is subject to reincarnation.

It is only further proven by Demise's own words, he uses a very specific term in the original Japanese. Rin'ne, which is the Japanese term for the Hindu word Samsāra, which is the neverending cycle of life, death, & rebirth.

Now, in the English, he said was that, "my hatred will follow."

"Follow." You can't exactly follow something if it's not already in motion.

What I think is that, Demise isn't causing Link & Zelda to reincarnate. I think that that was already going to happen regardless.

I believe that Demise's actual curse isn't so much forcing them to reincarnate (which, how would he even do that; he was never stated to have power over souls), rather I believe he's attached his own hatred to their souls & essentially piggybacking off of a natural phenomenon that takes place on their earth. His curse makes it so that, whenever they are reborn, they'll experience misery in some form or fashion.

Which brings me to my next point. I think that Hylia gave up a whole lot more than what a bunch of fans believe she did.

Thing is, in a world where reincarnation is real, the only way to escape it is the give up on all worldly attachments. Which, I don't think even most deities can boast about themselves.

Especially not Hylia. She is VERY attached. So, when she became mortal, she sort of became subject to Rin'ne like any other mortal. Whether she knew or she didn't, that's a different story, but I still think it to be true.

Anyway, tangent, my bad. I see Ganondorf as being parallel to Susano-o time as a mortal.

And, you know what? He eventually makes amends. But he's only able to through living as a mortal. Or at least, that's the angle I'm going with.

And, in a way, Karina sort of represents Demise's, or Gàlondo's Kushinada-hime. Susano-o's eventual wife. (But only represent her. If she actually was Kushinada, then she'd be transformed into a comb most of the story. XD)

But, bottom line is that, according to Buddhism, it's actually not

Another interesting thing is that, while yes, the Triforce bears a surface-level resemblance to the concept of the Holy Trinity, I think it has more in common with the 3 Confucian Virtues.

And, do you know what those virtues are?

Courage

Wisdom

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Benevolence.

And, do you know what Conficius believed of benevolence? It is humaneness. Or love for others.

That it starts at the home, but shouldn't stop there.

One could even argue that it is an extension of Aristole's idea that one's relationship with others reflects the relationship that we have with ourselves. In other words, how you view or treat yourself can affects how you view or treat others.

Which makes self-compassion (philautia) rather than narcissism (narcissis) very important. Because arrogance is often times a sign of someone who is secretly insecure.

And, interestingly enough, Karina is a goddess of all types of love & of healthy relationships (among other things), meaning she likely knows what she's talking about.

Anyway, back to where I was. Confucian benevolence is described as a moral sense that begins with one's own family & that strong foundation allows for such feelings to flow outward to one's community & beyond.

So, what happens when one's family or home is not strong. If the filial love isn't allowed to flourish?

Now, that by no means indicates that one can't be benevolent without a good home life or relationship with one's family. But just like how one can still learn how to read later in life, if it's nurtured early in life, it's comes easier.

But yeah, that's my logic.

Sorry for the infodumping.

Is Demise a terrible being? Yes. Do I love him?

... yes...

I really wish I could like me a hero for once. Alas, my heart is forever tormented by villains and antiheroes!

I am always here for your Universe's lore, my dear. You have incredible storytelling and information to give on WHY something should be the way it is in your version of Hyrule! I cannot wait to see more about it!

I actually have all the links you give me saved on my notes app to be able to pull them up whenever I am able to read... AKA when my brain lets me actually sit down to read.

[midwesterngothicmomus]

And yeah... Female weak/human Loki to take! ! Count is in! After all Vali too tried to kill weak Loki, + Poor Susanoo, just because you are so often with Humans, they think you fuck them too. We all know Susanoo would marry a Katana... Then again, you plan Kushinada-hime?? Yeah, many sea gods, spirits, Monster

I don't have specific plans for her but given how he has at least one consort and many kids without identified mothers I imagine the idea of him having an affair isn't super out there to his siblings.

[eirikrjs]

I'm impressed with how well Doi's new Konohana Sakuya harmonizes with Kaneko's existing Nocturne JP goddesses despite not being part of their exact same template.

I dare say the demons revealed for Vengeance thus far are some of Doi's best yet and may mark a turning point for him as a demon designer!

[elendsessor]

screaming crying throwing up over something posted in the smtvv discord

if this is a legit conversation yeah

yeah atlus isn’t beating the allegations

i mean straight up who else would she be talking about. nobody else is shown falling in love with a proto fiend. susano-o doesn’t have any other wife besides kushinada-hime (one source says he has multiple but only lists her and i can’t find anything else so yeah he likely only wed once). the way the protag canonically acts towards aogami and vice versa. the conversations. everything.

i’m sorry but like unless we get some other demon revealed to have dated goddamn aogami (and again if this screenshot is false) this is an actual canon pairing. aoshu won. all but outright stated a canon queer relationship. go home nonbelievers.

EDIT:

@shiominato pointed this out and yeah likely still not only referring to her

and yeah regardless the protag seems to be the one addressed here, and apparently nobody but kushinada is allowed to be acknowledged in everything so yeah still a win (thank you for the info this is interesting af atlus has to hit a hard enough counter to keep it not canon and they probably won’t)

edit 2: so uh wrong again apparently second wifey was acknowledged but this just confirms he fucks. he’ll go for anyone. still no proof aoshu ain’t winning.

[p5x-theories]

Official Persona art of the new Personas added in the third P5X beta.

[vinnigami]

doodle your favorite demon :0

I have too many ‘favorite demons’ to choose (Amanozako, Norn, Fionn mac Cumhaill, Kushinada-Hime, Bai Suzhen, and way too many more..) but i’ve been on an smt angels kick as of late. So I just drew Virtue

[purseowner4thequalityanimation]

[Kushinada’s model here is a palette swap of Kikuri-hime’s model who I have posted before.]