#kris and susie shenanigans

[frosted-co0kies]

hc that kris s teeth glow

stole from this post. Kris you are so weird (affectionate)

[mizartz]

deltarunes your don't starve

[tvlandofficiall]

the bigger question though is why is ralsei always standing on tiptoe. it's okay ralsei half the rest of your friends are short too

[inkwellimps]

Jevilary Day 7: Carousel

[potatofever]

deltarune au featuring krerdly and suselle

details under the cut!

do NOT repost i am literally THE potatofever

umm ok nothing i get hyperfixated on escapes the "what if" au shenanigans. everyone's story changes just a little bit

kris gets controlled by the player two years prior to the events of deltarune chapter 1, who finds out that they can control their own body again only in the dark world

noelle and "kris" (the player) have a falling out in which "kris" starts fully ignoring noelle and she goes into a depression til' she and berdly get closer. she's much more brash and blunt, but also more confident

berdly never goes into his "smart kid" spiral, instead he encompasses the "class clown" persona for the elation the attention gives him. he ends up having a tendency to make a lot of people uncomfortable this way

susie is a transfer student from out of town, who's still plenty weird but being passively extrovert makes her seem not as scary. terrible rbf, though

ralsei is much more aloof about the prophecy and responsibility. his role in chapter 1 is akin to a prophet rather than a guide, and he only tags along because kris and susie don't look like they know what they're doing and he felt bad

worldbuilding & other character facts

spamton becomes very attached to noelle in chapter 2

berdly gains a crush on literally everyone. he just happens to land on kris at the latter half of the story

sean just kind of hoards all the minibosses (jevil, spamton) in his shop. noelle doesn't like sean

susie doesn't hide her tail after being encouraged by queen, who chooses susie to kidnap during chapter 2

lancer develops world peace within the dark world and is elected king of the not-so-empty kingdom

the player is the one constantly drinking the milk alphys puts out

mad/mew and asgore real. trust. no really look at this

[krispdreemurr]

current ch4 prediction: kris and susie spend the morning hanging out and getting breakfast and throwing rocks in lakes. at some point, Noelle reaches out (probably calls Kris) and asks for their help - there's festival prep stuff she's been asked to help w but she can't get it done in time. the two head over to her place to get stuff out of the basement/attic but Oh No Dark World (maybe created while they're all there? i do think Noelle deserves a chance to make one and it'd be fascinating if she turned "invite people over to make a fountain" around on Kris just one chapter after they do it lmao). incredibly holiday-centric chapter, maybe exploration into what happened w Dess. then after it's raining and Kris and Susie do more shenanigans lmao

[akanemnon]

Sussie, what are your thoughts on frisk so far? do you think they'll be down for all the high-grade country teenager shenanigans or are they too goodie two shoes?

Sorry, couldn't help it.

Give it some time and Frisk is gonna start acting more like Kris and Susie.

[sweatertheman]

RALSUSIE REALIZATION MOTHERFUCKERS

the kind of relationship people imagine noelle and susie having is basically what ralsei and susie already have!

full of teasing

noelle playing the normal kind well-manner straightman to susie's antics

susie awkwardly blushingly making acts of kindness towards noelle or asking her for help/affection and trying not to seem "soft"

noelle making small acts of kindness which mean the world to susie

all of these fit ralsei and susie better than noelle and susie. susie does not tease noelle, noelle does not stand in the way of or even make mention of susie's shenanigans, susie hasn't made any acts of kindness towards noelle (not even a fucking non-canon valentine guys come on), susie only blushes around noelle like, one time? and it was because noelle embarrassed susie about her tail? and noelle's only act of kindness towards susie was buying her a box of fucking CHALK. something which susie is not only unflattered by, but actively upset about, because noelle had chalk the whole time, and didn't give it to alphys! buying her actual food would have been a kinder gesture, and would have shown a level of emotional maturity from noelle, to realize that eating things which aren't food is a sign of being hungry, and not having access to food, but no. chalk.

while the argument could be that they will progress into the kind of relationship ralsei and susie have, ralsei and susie are already there!

if suselle happens, i don't think it'll be like described. i think it'll be a lot different.

noelle, it seems, doesn't CARE who susie is as a person. she would be okay if susie just wanted to pick on her (in concept anyway) and is just as okay with her being a good person, or her eating chalk. noelle fawns over susie, but doesn't push her to change as a person. whatever susie wants to do is already fine. whatever susie likes is what she gets (even if it isn't what she needs.) susie is free from criticism. in fact, it seems to me like it'd be very similar to a certain other ship...

KRALSEI BITCHES

thats right! i think suselle and kralsei have very similar base constructions. one party treats the other with unconditional admiration and reverence, finds ways to excuse the behaviors they don't like about the other party, changes themselves to be whatever they think the other party would like, constantly wants to aquire the affection of the other party, blushes constantly around them, meanwhile the other party in question treats their behavior with indifference and confusion. a one-sided, unhappy relationship.

while there are differences here, like tea values and the difference between a horny lesbian crush and a master slave dynamic, i think there's a lot in common about what we've seen of noelle and susie together and what we've seen of kris and ralsei together. hell, they both get a slightly uncomfortable romantic carnival ride back to back, and while susie and noelle's ride has a happier conclusion of them just enjoying each other's company instead of awkwardly dropping the subject then engaging in real estate combat with rouxls kaard, its starting to seem to me like a parallel is being drawn.

further pushing this idea of a parallel is the fact that earlier, kris and noelle, and ralsei and susie go out on the town, so to speak! and things go. pretty well. unless you commit a lot of murder. assuming you don't commit murder, guess what! kris and noelle have a good time, and a pretty healthy happy dynamic! there's a lot of teasing, mutual respect, laughing, learning, thinking back on old times... they have a blast! in fact, they way they interact kind of reminds me of a certain other duo.

RALSUSIE YOU ABSOLUTE FOOLS

just like suselle and kralsei have parallels, so too do ralsusie and kriselle! one party is weird, dirty, mischievous, more competent than the other in combat, has some insecurity about themselves, likes teasing others and doesn't do well with emotional displays, and the other party is a lot more normal, well-mannered, less competent, but emotionally supportive, enjoys being teased and teasing back, and does what they can to show the first party that they care. noelle laughing along with kris, sharing chocolates with them, indulging them but not bending over for them, (like drinking poison, which noelle probably would have done for susie), looking to them for advice and safety in combat.

and what's more, you know what their healthy dynamic gets contorted into on a snowgrave route?!

THE PARASITIC MASTER SLAVE DYNAMIC FROM EARLIER!

💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💣💣💣💥💥💣💣

[the-meme-monarch]

hopping on the kr/alsei hate train. the theme of being Forced Into Circumstances (Romantic Or Otherwise) is very prominent with the two of em, but especially with Kris. it's basically the entire game. every single one of the options to be "romantic" towards Ralsei are a choice on the player's behalf and nothing to do with what Kris wants.

hugging Ralsei is so sweet from our pov. until you recall that Kris doesn't like hugs. this is plainly stated by Asgore if you visit him in Chapter 1, and VERY telling by the way they don't reciprocate Toriel or Asgore's hugs. Kris does not make the decision to hug Ralsei - to do so goes against their personal boundaries.

some of the dialogue choices in the Acid Tunnel of Love are such polar opposites. the "nice" options, however, are incredibly presumptuous of Kris' feelings towards Ralsei, having a stark contrast from the "mean" option being silence or shutting Ralsei down. of course the player will pick the kinder one, even if it's odd.

I do want to mention that this lends itself to the notion/theory of the narrator being a seperate entity (as they were in Undertale) who may have the goal of keeping Kris and Ralsei together. for what purpose I have no idea, but it makes sense why one choice for dialogue ("Is it strange to say it's nice spending time with you alone like this?") is either shutting Ralsei down completely ("It's strange") or assertively reciprocating ("I feel the same way"). the narrator entity understands there is a third party, and they understand how to make us work for them without even realising it.

this isn't even getting started on how Ralsei's feelings towards Kris are incredibly idolising. Ralsei tends to be subservient to Kris and Susie, and talks about his sole purpose as a Darkner being to assist the Lightners. "It's the only way we can feel truly fulfilled."

not to mention, Ralsei has been alone for his entire life. he very reasonably wouldn't be able to understand the difference between his feelings for others, nor would he ever have experienced someone caring for him in a platonic or familial manner.

Ralsei saying "it's nice spending time alone with you" is not an inherently romantic sentiment. It is, however, probably the first time he has expressed any such sentiment. Of course he's flustered about it! He doesn't talk to other people, and this is someone he looks up to and admires as a hero from a legend. Kris has thus far fit into Ralsei's narrative perfectly - of course they're his favourite.

For Kris to reciprocate the sentiment is unique and new for Ralsei, which he even acknowledges. ("I mean, e-everything's a first for me, but... Hearing it from you, um... It... it means a lot.") Ralsei has idolised Kris, and as long as Kris continues to play the part forced by the player, nothing good can come of it.

I'm not saying Kris doesn't care about Ralsei. But it's an incredibly toxic dynamic regardless of the whole almost-siblings shenanigan (which is terrible enough to put me off from this ship anyway.)

TLDR kr/alsei sucks get better <3

NODDING AT THIS i don’t have anything else to add i think you verbalized everything i had thoughts on

[brixbraxium]

We can actually (if we take a few throwaway lines much too seriously) narrow down what Day of the Week DELTARUNE: Chapter 1 takes place on:

For starters, we can rule out Sunday and Saturday, as there is school on the day of Ch1. Obviously, there would be no school on the weekend. We can also rule out Friday because obviously we have school on the day of Chapter 2. If CH1 is friday, that'd make ch2 saturday, and there wouldnt' be school on a saturday. Further, Toriel says that Asriel will visit "Next Week". We can reasonably assume this will occur during the events of the game. Given how we know that Chapter 4 takes place the day after Chapter 2 due to Charles the Mole:

(THIS IS NOT MY DIAGRAM I DID NOT MAKE THIS COMPARISION IMAGE AND I DO NOT KNOW WHO DID I APOLOGIZE)

Charles' hat grows by one pixel each day, because he hides his pancakes in there. Anyway, this means that if we assume Chapter 1 takes place on monday, and that there are no future shenanigans: Chapter 1: Monday Chapter 2: Tuesday Chapter 3: Tuesday Night Chapter 4: Wednesday Chapter 5: Thursday Chapter 6: Friday Chapter 7: Saturday And obviously, Saturday is not the start of "Next Week", meaning if we assume that Toriel's wording is accurate, Asriel cannot appear if Ch1 takes place on monday.

If we instead assume Ch1 tuesday, then we get Ch7 Sunday. Some people actually do consider Sunday the "Start of the week", but most people I've asked seem to agree that Monday is the start of the week. We can rule out one more day- Thursday. There's an addison in Cyber City who says this:

A "School Night" refers to a day on which you have school the next day- a night in which you need to ensure you get good sleep to wake up the next day well rested. ie, Sunday through Thursday. Obviously, we know that we do not have School on the day of Chapter 4, but the fact this addison makes the mistake could simply just be because School is cancelled on the day of chapter 4, but it does take place on sunday-thursday. This lines up with Alphys seemingly forgetting that there is no school, and the fact Church is being held- perhaps there's some holiday or special service that the Addison didn't account for? In Japanese, the Addison instead seems to say that Kris and Noelle are "out on a weeknight", which would seem to suggest monday-friday. With the school night lore, we can rule out Thursday. If chapter 1 takes place on Thursday, that'd place Chapter 2 on friday, which would not be a school night. You may want to argue that Queen set her internal clock ahead to when she had already won (Which also happens to be Susie's Birthday?) and that the Addison is wrong because of this- However, Queen later correctly notes that the Dark Fountain was created "Today", which would suggest that she did not actually keep it set into the future, nullifying this argument.

Therefore, the standings are as such:

If we take everything into account, it seems that Wednesday is the only day that has no particular issues. Chapter 1 takes place on Wednesday, Chapter 2 takes place on Thursday, school is cancelled on friday. This means the Chapter Lineup is: Chapter 1 - Wednesday Chapter 2 - Thursday Chapter 3 - Thursday Night Chapter 4 - Friday Chapter 5 - Saturday Chapter 6 - Sunday Chapter 7 - Monday, Asriel returns. ...Or, maybe Toby didn't think about this that hard. Or maybe Toriel's dialog isn't that literal. Or maybe the Addison's remark isn't actually accurate at all and they're just making it up. ...Nah, I'd win.

[wcspriter]

All the way back in March came a crossover idea that wrote itself to me in a surprisingly cohesive manner. Then again, 4,000 hours in Sea of Thieves might just do that to someone with too much time on their hands. Introducing the Delta Warriors who took a wrong turn across the doors and landed in the Sea of Thieves!

The premise of this extra, fictional chapter is our trio sailing across the seas in search of bottles containing pieces of a map leading them to the grey door but finding it won't be so easy. A handful of islands had been shrouded in a green fog during the events of the 2022 SoT Adventures, specifically the very first adventure "Shrouded Islands". It's up to Kris, Susie and Noelle to carefully traverse these dangerous islands while a powerful skeleton lord watches from the shroud.

I'm overwhelmingly happy with the designs I gave these three, some were easier to do than others.

Susie was definitely the easiest to work on as the Dark World did more than half the work for me. But the colors were going all over the place for me, just couldn't find the right set to be cemented. Eventually I decided to give her the purple and gold Pirate Legend appearance while keeping her Dark World belt. She was also able to convince me to keep their appearances simpler compared to the other pirate sprites like Belle and the Servant. Oh, and Roulx did me a favor with that hat of theirs.

I'm about 60/40 on using Noelle's design. On one hand, this goes against the whole "simpler design" I had just mentioned about Susie. On the other hand, the choice of using the SoT tavern keeper design would be a perfect use for Monkey Island shenanigans on Sanctuary Outpost. But to the most keen-eyed, her sprite ref came from 2022 Underevent Trailer.

And finally poor Kris was given the least-popular clothing outfit in Sea of Thieves, the Sea Dog. Going back to the teaser video, I realized there were literally zero proper outfits for Kris to wear so I hope they can forgive me for this one. But I slightly tweaked it so that Kris' bandana (which ISN'T a thing in the game) matched their soul color. Boots and gloves came off of their Dark World gear which matched the Sea Dog set so no issues there.

There's still more spritework to come of this random, alternate chapter, just you wait!

[fictionkinfessions]

Mundane memories

[Bill Cipher : Wanderer timeline] Stargazing. It was one of my favourite things to do, made me feel weirdly small which I wasn't really used but I guess it must've been nice. It was a super personal thing to me and I didn't really let people join me often

[Chara Dreemurr] Making little flower bouquets with Asriel! We didn't really have access to a variety of colours but that didn't stop us. I think we made 'flower confetti' to scatter around the house too (literally just throwing petals at Toriel and Asgore with Asriel yelling "Confetti!!" Every time)

[Kris Dreemurr] diner visits that consisted of me finding the least populated corner to sit in and ignore people for a few hours (before the whole dark world shenanigans started, afterwards it was me and Susie, still ignoring everyone though)

[Embry (It's not me, it's my basement)] I used to love goin to the park, not always to play, it was nice to just be there

#🌟🌸♦️

x

[roseofhybrids]

bout 1 month till we get chapters 3 and 4 gonna lock in my theories now only really 2 solid ones but ya know-

after hearing others theories and replaying the first 2 chapters, my money's on Dess being the knight, opening the first two fountains to escape from wherever she ended up after bunker shenanigans

and then Kris of course opening the third As for why Kris would suddenly do this-

2. my theory is that, like the others at the end of chapter 2, Kris agrees that the dark worlds are great and wanted a new adventure ASAP. But they also don't want the roaring to happen. So they open one, but only open it after the cyber world was closed. Thus, not completely throwing off the balance and causing the roaring.

I could see someone justifying opening one if they knew they could close it after. Which Kris has already done twice now. So perhaps while forming the plan to open one in their house, Kris reasoned that they'd be able to close it again before anything bad happened. Letting them and their friends go on another fun adventure, and then cleaning up after so that nothing bad happens.

It's like playing with fire. If it gets out of control, it would be a disaster. But if you're confident you have it under control and can put it out when you're done, then surely it's safe to do, right? Why not burn some things in a fire pit, so long as you have a water bucket nearby? (bit of a flaw line of reasoning, but hey we're talking about some unwell teens here)

I feel that Kris looking at Susie on the couch before opening the fountain shows that their friends are at least part of the motive. Their friends all voiced how they'd want to open another fountain prior to Ralsei's warning. Then Susie talked about trying to bring Ralsei and Lancer to the light world so they could hang out more. So maybe they look to Susie to push back any nerves about opening the fountain. A reminder of both the reason they're doing this and that they'll have her and Ralsei to help them close it again.

All this to say, I feel like it's possible for Kris to open the fountain without a sinister motive behind it. Just a dangerous justification that would make sense to a teen but not an adult

[luithesomeone]

BAD DELTARUNE AU IDEA

I PRESENT TO YOU THE CONECPT FOR AN AU I CALLED "DELTARUNE: DARKER STORIES"

It's basically a concept of "what if instead of Kris it was GASTER that had the soul?" btw yes, he did bring it upon himself by timeline shenanigans or something i dont fully know yet.

Some of the darkners get switched around, but their personallities stay mostly the same. Like ex. Spamton and Jevil instead of Susie and Ralsei.

Might draw some character refernces later, idfk.

[asktubbygoatasriel]

(I got a question for Susie and there can be a drawing to match it if you want.) Susie, have you ever talked to your belly on the way to the school you and Kris go to? Like, your belly would be growling and you'd tell it to suck it up? If so, I'd like to see how that conversation would go.

"Well yeah! And it would usually fail to do so. So we ate moss because Kris thought it could turn his belly into an inside garden or sentient IDK which one. Feels like we were already in our shenanigans back then."

_Susie

[daisukoth]

"Noelle will fall out of love with Susie" "Kris is just Frisk" "Asriel is actually dead" "Kris has no ulterior motives" "the game actually has time travel shenanigans (again) and Kris knows the entire plot already" "Gaster is irrelevant" Deltarune fans having a fucking mid-off trying to find the most boring route this game could take.