#korean duolingo

[quiveringdeer]

okay I got frisky and started the Korean tract on duolingo for funsies and am I trippin or what?

with the bottom left the voice is sayin "geoma" but it's written "geomeo" right?

cause the next one on the right is being pronounced "gama"

I wish I could've recorded the voice but I wasn't sure how I probs shoulda done a screen recording but it's late and I forgot it was easier than my brain was making me believe

[wtfduolingo]

Yo (hi :3)

Look at this

(ID: Korean Duolingo phrase that translates to "I like bad boys".)

[idia-shrouds-fursona]

[dkettchen]

Dankjewel voor de trans sanji AU, i owe you my life 😔❤️

I'm luxemburgish (🇱🇺) not dutch (🇳🇱), dear, so I don't speak that one, but thank you lmao

[f-015]

30.07.2024

한영하세유! today i had no time to make the translation basic english/basic korean, but because tomorrow we'll have a chemistry test, so i made a mind map to recap all the things we saw. don't have much to say, unless that i didn't studied korean and now i'm feeling super guilty ༎ຶ⁠‿⁠༎ຶ. anyways, i still have electronics and programming things to do. i wish i had enough time to do it all.

well, good morning everyone, and if i don't see you again, good morning, good afternoon and good night 💜.

[saranghandagom]

어구 - 결론을 말하다

(어구 - phrase, expression)

결론을 말하다 - the bottom line is; in conclusion; to get to the point

also: 결론부터 말하다

examples:

결론을 말하자면, 인터넷 사기행위가 점점 더 복잡해져 가는 중이다.

빙빙 둘러대지 말고 결론을 말하세요.

결론부터 말하자면, 나 너랑 헤어지고 싶어.

[svtskneecaps]

you know what i'll say it MIKE AND ROIER ARE THE ONLY ONES I RESPECT these fuckers will rock up and say FUCK english all my homies HATE english they are the only ones i trust and respect these fuckers are like you will hear me speak my language and you will LEARN IT OR DIE and i respect the HELL OUT OF IT dude THANK YOU FOR BEING ENGLISH HATERS brothers THANK YOU FOR NOT SPEAKING ONLY ENGLISH WHEN AMONG ANYONE NOT OF YOUR LANGUAGE GROUP!!!!!!!!

[tokyogruel]

one of my favorite parts of milgramblr is that people just started sharing how to speak in their native tongue and im like. ecstatic about it

[anapholle]

ninth august

two Pomodoro sessions 25 minutes (here)

started on lesson 6 in my Czech-Korean textbook book

did two Duolingo lessons

I had to clean out everything in the kitchen cabinets today because there were flour bugs 🪳 it was such a pain

[comparatist]

31.01.24 [1/29]

i had started learning korean from duolingo a year ago. couldn’t continue it for reasons, lack of time being one. however i started again! and this time i plan to accomplish my goals!

ps. i aced the competitive exam i had prepared for with flying colours!

[wtfduolingo]

🤔

(ID: Duolingo phrase in Korean which translates to "Do you want to die?")

[its-elvie-innit]

realizing duolingo is NOT HELPFUL if you don't have a background in languages is so annoying because it was helpful Years Ago they just changed it so it's bad now. I took french for four years, and it's a romantic language so learning Portuguese which is in the same branch makes duo a pretty useful tool because I can point to "um" and "uma" and go ah yeah that's like le and la, and they're letting me know the genders by teaching me man and woman as the first words. But I WOULDNT HAVE KNOWN THAT if I didn't ALREADY HAVE BACKGROUND in a SEPARATE SIMILAR LANGUAGE and also duolingo is SHIT AT TEACHING ME FRENCH because I don't have ADVANCED BACKGROUND IN FRENCH THAT IS WHAT I'M TRYING TO USE DUO FOR, ACTUALLY.

Honestly I'm not even fully using duolingo for my Portuguese information it's literally just a memorization tool to get you introduced to certain verbs. You literally CANNOT understand anything without prior knowledge, so I am half note-taking, half verb tabling, and 0.1% cramming duo lessons for that memorization boost. Duolingo used to have a well of information not even hosted by the application, but instead was manually written by its millions of users to help others understand word contexts, and it was free!!!! Duo didn't have to pay shit for it!!!!! But instead they chose to throw away MILLIONS of comments and discussion links to reduce their shit server costs because bill whatever-the-fuck his name was decided he hates learning actually and fuck all your good information I need two extra dollars to afford a snickers bar in the downstairs vending machine. Look at my terrible owl tiktoks.

And I DOUBLE know this because I was learning hiragana in 2019 and I still remember how to sound out at least a few letters because I only got a couple months in, and they had at least a few good tools to help you understand process and learn the content, but then this week I decided I'd like to learn Korean so I started with the basic course and I can tell you right now it might possibly be one of the WORST english phonetic representations of the language sounds I've ever read. Just a little under half, maybe, of duos spelling work for the Hangul letters are completely incomprehensible because of the completely avoidable letter duplication for different sounds. I'll give you an example:

Do you want to know how these letters are pronounced? Here's your hint; both sound suspiciously like tah.

For an app that's supposed to be pretty accessible, I would think that spelling the phonetics right would be pretty high up on your list!!!! And yes, I'm very familiar with the very hard t-sounding "d" sound of some eastern European languages, but I am being so serious when I say whoever pronounced these recordings just said "tah" and "ta"!!! It is EXTREMELY hard to differentiate certain sounds, but the thing is these are not the worst offenders. Actually, the Hangul lessons? Yeah, not the letter system on the side? Those are worse.

These two characters are done in such a robotic sounding way that the only way you can differentiate the sounds is by carefully, CAREFULLY listening to whether the robot (?) does the tongue flick that causes the rolling r at the very beginning of the recording. Otherwise, it's SUPER hard. I would expect you don't mischaracterize the sounds but hey apparently getting a voice actor for character sounds is really hard. I guess. Hey, let me try look this up on YouTube actually. Oh, but for that I would have to download a whole other app to properly write out the words because none of my other apps have a manual writing system and I AM USING DUO TO LEARN THE WORDS. this should be ON THERE.

Not to mention this character, where the robot JUST says T. It says "tuo". The one that it represents? Deo. I would even call it an Italian passing accent. It's stupid.

This problem is occurring in multiple languages, I'm just pointing it out in Korean because it's so all over the place. There's a character representing "kye" that is just. Straight up a ch sound. That's all fine and dandy but there's another character, spelled with a different letter that represents a CH sound too and it's NOT k. It's all over the place!!!!

In my Portuguese lessons, I can say "homem" all I want and it's still not going to give it to me ever because the robot pronounces it wrong. It's the FIRST word you learn in pr lessons, and you have to pronounce it with an H sound HEAVILY. The robot doesn't do that, but it's the only way duo accepts it during speaking lessons when it picks up other soft sounds just fine. I only know this through trial and error. It does NOT tell you.

The only way I learn anything is through my note taking and it's so so sad because duo really used to be good. But taking french, a language I really love, is a pain because at least once a lesson segment, if not twice I will get a word that I don't know and have never been taught, that has never popped up before, in, like, a picture activity where it shows you an image and you have to interpret the right words, so you can't click and check what it means. And every time I'll report that I've never learned the word, but its not like it teaches me or anything after I've reported it, and you don't get to know what the word means until you get the question right so you might lose all your hearts in a lesson just for nothing, if you end up choosing the wrong option too many times. It's so unenjoyable.

It's not like duo can't be good, it can. It's a fun app! But you don't learn any languages past the first couple of words, without any grammar or base knowledge to start you off. It makes me frustrated knowing that the options available to me are limited bases on the sentence structure I'm already familiar with.

[sunsorbit]

busuu is just. So much better than duolingo in every single aspect. I have been making significant progress in my korean skills in only 10 days, and i am so excited to learn more!

the mix between actual videos of native speakers saying the sentences, to audio, to text only, to images, to actual writing/speaking exercises, the little fun facts and explanations on grammar and sentence structure, or even just highlighting meanings of specific words is so good. I’ve even started to adore the community feature and am excited to have my own lessons corrected!

aside from actual language learning aspects and just app design wise:

- currently ads are super non invasive, only about their subscription service, and are only 15 seconds before starting a lesson,

- there’s no shitty gem store, you can just stop during a lesson and pick up where you left off and it will still count towards your streak,

- skipped days count towards your streak (!),

- streak “shields” refill automatically. no need to buy them (altho i also haven’t run out of them yet! so no idea what happens then)

- lessons are divided into chapters and are clearly labeled, so you actually know what you’ll learn in each lesson and can find ones you want to redo more easily,

- plus they tell you how long the lesson is going to take. (game changer. genuinely a game changer)

- and while i’ll miss the little collectibles from quests and monthly stuff it’s just so much more stress free + i’m not just encouraged to do lessons/quests to gain badges (which duolingo only uses to pump more ads at you) or uphold my streak, but because i actually wanna do the next lesson!

- there’s still a leaderboard and daily quests, but they feel more subtle and easily reachable, also not as mandatory, in a way

only downsides so far are no dark mode, the font can be a bit small for hangeul, and you can’t just search for other users (like, your actual friends) (or i just haven’t figured out how to) but like. i’m willing to compromise that for actual language learning that is fun and useful. no more gibberish sentences and ai-generated audio samples this course is made by humans lmao

So here’s to reaching a 1000 day streak on duolingo and ditching that shit owl for my new bestie Busuu!!!!! cannot recommend it more

i’m finally free!!

[schnaf]

surprise countdown [1/3] - you've got me in a chokehold

[smallphoenix13]

jealousy over bojan being able to speak.. what, like 5? at least? languages proficiently is making me redownload duolingo

[saranghandagom]

서구 - 서양 - 서방: difference

서구, 서양, and 서방 are all frequently translated as "the West", but as tends to be the case in Korean, there are differences in meaning

서구 - this has an old 한자 for Europe, and it used to refer to Western Europe, though it is now commonly used synonymously with 서양

서양 - the West as most Western people would understand it: (Western and Northern) Europe, North America, and Australia + Aotearoa NZ, though there is an issue of people including different countries in their understanding of 서양

서방 - can be used synonymously with "first world" to include, for example, Japan and South Korea, which are not technically part of the West as a geographical concept, but part of the "first world". Here, too, there is the issue of some countries being included or excluded based on the person (an example listed by the person posting the original Korean explanation were the Baltic countries or Hong Kong)

(information taken from this post, which really helped make it clearer for me!)

나는야 서구 사람이고 서양 사람이고 서방 사람이 다 맞군