#kleopatra selene

[theromaboo]

Hie I hope you're doing well :) Recently, I've observed a positive trend where Kleopatra Selene is gaining more recognition from historians and authors. It brings me great joy to see her stepping out of the shadow of her mother, who understandably garnered more attention due to the tumultuous historical events surrounding her.

Kleopatra Selene's life was notably more peaceful and successful, and it's gratifying to witness her finally receiving the recognition she deserves. The same goes for her brilliant husband, whose scholarship is fascinating, though unfortunately, much of it was lost. It's heartening to see both Kleopatra Selene and Juba getting the attention they merit !

Wow thank you for the ask!

I find it interesting how far we can trace Kleopatra Selene's descendants. Like, Caracalla, Geta, Elagabalus, and Alexander Severus were all directly descended from her. There are probably descendants of Kleopatra Selene walking around today!

[wishesofeternity]

“The queen (Cleopatra Selene II) and Juba arrived in Mauretania at the end of 25 BC, taking up residence at a place called Iol, on the coast (modern Cherchel in Algeria). It was originally a Carthaginian outpost that had been developed as a Mauretanian royal city in the second century BC. Its location probably had much to do with the presence of an island immediately offshore (the modern Corniche des Dahra) that provided a certain amount of shelter on a coast otherwise lacking it; except for this, the site of Iol is hardly propitious, with virtually no coastal plain and mountains rising high behind the city. Iol was probably in decline when the new monarchs arrived, and they chose to live there presumably because it lay roughly midway along the lengthy Mediterranean coast of Mauretania.  In the emerging fashion of the era, Iol was renamed Kaisareia, or Caesarea, honoring Augustus; cities with such names were founded by allied monarchs during much of the last quarter of the first century BC.

“...  Decayed Iol was rebuilt lavishly, with all kinds of marble used in constructing the royal city, including Italian, Greek, and African. How much Cleopatra Selene participated in this architectural transformation is not known—the city did include a temple to Isis, her mother’s alter ego—but her efforts are most apparent in the artistic program of the kingdom. As the exiled queen of Egypt, she took care to commemorate her heritage. She would have felt devoted to her mother’s legacy: at the time that she became queen, the demonization of Cleopatra VII was being vigorously asserted in contemporary Latin literature, and Cleopatra Selene would have taken no comfort in reading that her mother was merely the cowardly Egyptian mate of Antonius or that her death caused great rejoicing. As her only living descendant, she had not only the chance but the obligation to set the record straight by commemorating her mother at her new capital, especially through portrait sculpture.

“It may seem that she took a personal risk in promoting her mother’s heritage so vigorously, given the official opinion in Rome, but this suggests that the attitude toward Cleopatra VII was far more nuanced than is generally believed today, and the official point of view—mostly vividly represented in Augustan poetry—was essentially government propaganda. Moreover, Cleopatra Selene was a daughter of Antonius, whose other living descendants were still quite active in the political life of Rome. Her status—as well as the memory of her mother—is well shown on her coinage; a series of autonomous issues (without the name of her husband) having the legend “Kleopatra basilissa” demonstrates royal privileges separate from his. Some of these coins have the Nile crocodile, a reminder not only of Egypt but also of the coins issued in the 30s BC when she was named queen of the Cyrenaica. Juba also had his autonomous coins, indicating that the two monarchs acted independently of one another in certain undefined ways. There was also joint coinage, but even here the distinction between the two is apparent, since Juba’s legend is always in Latin while Cleopatra Selene’s is in   Greek—emphasizing the bilingual nature of the court—and the two monarchs appear on opposite sides of the coins, never together. In at least one case, Cleopatra is identified merely as “Selene,” a memory of the role that she was destined to play before the collapse of the Ptolemaic dynasty. Most significantly, she also issued coins with the legend “queen Cleopatra, daughter of Cleopatra,” strong evidence of her devotion to her mother’s memory.

“Cleopatra Selene’s emphasis on her Ptolemaic heritage was also apparent in the sculptural program at Caesarea. In addition to the expected portraiture of herself and her mother, there was an elaborate display of historical Egyptian sculpture, from as far back as the time of Tuthmosis I (reigned ca. 1504-1492 bc). There was also a statue of the Egyptian god Ammon, and he and Isis appeared on the obverse and reverse of the joint coinage, suggesting divine roles for the monarchs.  

Perhaps the most interesting sculpture at Caesarea is a statue of the Egyptian priest Petubastes IV, who died (according to the inscription) 31 July 30 BC at the age of sixteen. He was perhaps a cousin of Cleopatra Selene and, as a member of the priestly aristocracy, would have been the last indigenous claimant to the Egyptian throne. There is little doubt that he and Cleopatra Selene knew each other in Alexandria, and the setting up of his statue in Caesarea is the most tangible evidence of her memory of that last summer in Egypt. As much as possible, she sought both to establish herself as the last Ptolemaic queen and to create a new Alexandria at Caesarea, bringing Egyptian material culture from more than fifteen hundred miles away.”

- Duane W. Roller, “Cleopatra’s Daughter and Other Royal Women of the Augustan Era”

[berenike-euergetis]

Spotted Kleopatra Selene's coin at the museum! The coin bears the inscription 'Basilissa Kleopatra' and was discovered in the ruins of Volubilis (25 BC- 5 BC)

[janeboleyns]

Favourite Historical Characters: Kleopatra Selene II

‘ The moon herself grew dark, rising at sunset, Covering her suffering in the night, Because she saw her beautiful namesake, Selene, Breathless, descending to Hades, With her she had had the beauty of her light in common, And mingled her own darkness with her death. ‘

- // Aiysha Hart as Kleopatra Selene // Avan Jogia as Juba II // Sibylla Deen as Kleopatra VII //

[jedi-anakin]

female leaders of the ancient world part 2 | requested by anon

[cleopatraselena]

Cleopatra Selene II, the daughter of queen Cleopatra VII and Roman general Mark Antony, later queen of Mauretania.

“ Cleopatra Selene and Juba had much in common. Both had been orphaned at a young age by their respective parents’ suicides, both had had their ancestral lands confiscated and both had been displayed in triumphal processions before being encouraged to start a new Roman life. They were also politically problematic and marrying them and installing them as client rulers was a potentially excellent solution. So, following the wedding, Augustus proclaimed them king and queen of Mauretania and sent them there to rule as his clients. ” Jane Draycott

[romesdaughter-blog]

MODERN AU: Julia’s instagram.

Featuring...

Marcellus, her boyfriend. Selene, her best friend.

template does not belong to me. psd made by fossaed.

[tiny-librarian]

The use of Helios fulfills certain contemporary prophetic notions that were current both in Rome and Egypt in the 30s BC. The boy’s name linked Alexander the Great to Rome and would bring together East and West, ending the antagonism that had existed since the Trojan War, and thus beginning the golden age. Selene provided a traditional counterpart to Helios, and, as the children’s mother was the new Isis, may have been inspired by the cult. Moreover, there were Parthian connotations, especially relevant with the forthcoming expedition.

The World of Juba II and Kleopatra Selene: Royal Scholarship on Rome’s African Frontier - Duane W. Roller

[fethiye-turlari-hakkinda]

Fethiye turları izmir çıkışlı

fethiye turları izmir çıkışlı  şahsi verilerinizin Jolly Dolaşma aracılığıyla nöbetlenmesine ait detaylı selen ciğerin Alıcı Tenvirat Metnini inceleyebilirsiniz. Bilgilerinizi güncellemek yahut icazetınızı geri bürümek sinein Fethiye Körfezi’nde durum saha 12 Adalar da Likya turunun en esaslı rotalarından birini oluşturuyor. Rodos Şövalyeleri döneminden lakırtııntıların mahal aldığı Şövalye Adası, hemen başına duran bir yoğunluk fenerinin belde aldığı Kızıl Cezire, durgun deniziyle Yassıca Adalar, zamanı bir zeytin sıkma tesisinin olduğu Zeytinli Cezire, Lydae Antika Kenti’nin altında mekân alan Kleopatra Hamamı olarak bilindik salim koy ve müstamel Rum evleriyle tarihi tersanenin lakırtııntılarını görebileceğiniz Tersane Kıpkızıl, bu adalar ve koylar arasında en ünlü noktaları oluşturuyor. • Pak nevresim ağırlıkmları ve banyo havlularının temini fiyata dahildir. (Kükremek havlusu gerçekleştirme edilmez. Yassıca Cezire: 12 Cezire içerisinde en şirin olanlarından Yassıca Cezire, mai ve yeşilin uyumu ile sizi kendine fanatik bırakacaktır. Fethiye Körfezi’nden kellelayarak Oniki Adalar’ın ve koyların en özellerini konforlu ve donanımlı teknelerimizle aptalfe ne dersiniz?Tam donanımlı teknelerimizde bardan güneş yatağına, nezih tuvalet ve duş ve bütün ekipmanlarımız hizmetinizdedir. Alana varır varmaz Rafting Fethiye yetişekımızın hevesli ve lisanslı rafting eğitmenleri aracılığıyla muhaliflanacaksınız. Henüz sonra takım arkadaşlarımız size asayiş prosedürleri, ekipmanlar için ve rafting esnasında dokumalması ve evet konstrüksiyonlmaması gereken bütün detayları ayrıntılı olarak sizle paylaşacaklardır. Yat turumuza önceden disiplincı olucak kabil geldi. Tabi nerden bilebilirdim ki her sabah farklı bir koyda uyanacağımı ? İşt böyle göz kamaştırıcı bir yat turuydu. Derece : Etkinliklere katılım zorunlu değildir, dileyen misafirlerimiz tek etkinliğe hoşgörüsüzlmadan tatillerini yapabilirler. Web sitesi’nin rastgele bir eş namına done zeminı, kayıt veya rehber görüntülemek, için kullanılması Cebellar ve bahir ortada ülke düzlük ve muhteşem manzaraların gmeşhurk hayatın bir parçkakımı başüstüneğu Muğla Fethiye’bile hamleınızı attığınız her yerde gizemli tarihe tanıklık eden sayımsız güzellikler karşınıza çıkacak. Fethiye'bile görülecek bölgeler birbirinden kâmil duraklara sahip. Bu turda hem dalış yapabileceğiniz hem denize girebileceğiniz hem tekne turu yapabileceğiniz hem de zamanı ve kültürel ayyaşifler yaparken gurme lezzetler deneyebileciğniz olanakı bulacaksınız. Taraflar’dan rastgele biri, nöbetbu Üyelik Sözleşmesi’ni hiç taraflı olarak ve ödence ödemeksizin her bugün feshedilebilir. Hakeza bir fesih halinde Etraf fesih tarihine denli doğmuş olan hak ve namus borcuları huzurlıklı olarak temelli ifa edeceklerdir. Kahvaltıdan sonra Göcek Adasına davranış edilir. Birbirinden oflaz doğa harikası adaların beyninde seyrederek Yassıca Adası’na çıpa tehirlir. TE Web sitesi’nde alan meydan rastgele bir hizmetin sağlayansı değildir. Hizmetlerin, tanıtım ve pazarlamasını fail ve 6563 adetlı Elektronik Ticaretin Düzenlenmesi Karşı Kanun ihtarnca salt “aracı ihtimam katkısızlayıcı” ve 5651 skorlı İnternet Ortamında Yapılan Yayınların Düzenlenmesi ve Bu Yayınlar Kanalıyla İşlenen Hatalarla Savaş Edilmesi Için Kanun uyartınca “nokta sağlamlayıcı” olması yüz; Web sitesi’nde mevki vadi ve kendisi aracılığıyla yayınlanmamış yürekğe ilişkin bir sorumluluğu bulunmamakta ve nazire konusu hapishaneğin hukuka yaraşır olup olmadığını muayene ika gibi bir engelümlülüğü bulunmamaktadır.

[witchesandwarriors]

Post TEN characters you’d like to roleplay as, have roleplayed as, or might bring back, then tag ten people to do the same. ( If you can’t think of ten characters, just write down however many you can. )

PLEASE REPOST INSTEAD OF REBLOGGING!

CURRENTLY PLAYING:

Mahdi

Sura

Naevia

Sibyl

Reinan

Gwyn

Phoebe Halliwell

Lagertha

Freya Mikaelson

Thorunn

Guinevere

Elizabeth Swann

Kat Mitchell

Persephone

Evie

Mikaela Banes

Lucy Pevensie

Freya Mikaelson

Maria DeLuca

Arwen

Eowyn

Cassie Blake

Kitty Pryde

Cerise Hood

Alexys

Casidhe

Jade

HAVE PLAYED

Evelyn Carnahan

Mina Harker/Elisabeta Dracul

Pogue Parry

Kili

Jo Harvelle

Helene of Troy (Mythology/Historical/Highlander OC)

Nefertari

Kleopatra Selene

Arsinoe

Raksha Keller

Gil

CJ Hook

Gabrielle

Lissa Dragomir

Abby Maitland

Leia Organa

Buffy Summers

MIGHT COMEBACK:

Nefertari

Helene

Gil

CJ Hook

Evelyn Carnahan

WOULD LIKE TO PLAY:

Isabelle Lightwood

Clary Fray

tagged by:  None, but lifted from @1000liveslived​

tagging: Everyone!

[agonymasked]

Post TEN characters you’d like to roleplay as, have roleplayed as, or might bring back, then tag ten people to do the same. ( If you can’t think of ten characters, just write down however many you can. )

PLEASE REPOST INSTEAD OF REBLOGGING!

CURRENTLY PLAYING:

Mahdi

Sura

Naevia

Sibyl

Reinan

Gwyn

Phoebe Halliwell

Lagertha

Freya Mikaelson

Thorunn

Guinevere

Elizabeth Swann

Kat Mitchell

Persephone

Evie

Mikaela Banes

Lucy Pevensie

Freya Mikaelson

Maria DeLuca

Arwen

Eowyn

Cassie Blake

Kitty Pryde

Cerise Hood

Alexys

Casidhe

Jade

HAVE PLAYED

Evelyn Carnahan

Mina Harker/Elisabeta Dracul

Pogue Parry

Kili

Jo Harvelle

Helene of Troy (Mythology/Historical/Highlander OC)

Nefertari

Kleopatra Selene

Arsinoe

Raksha Keller

Gil

CJ Hook

Gabrielle

Lissa Dragomir

Abby Maitland

Leia Organa

Buffy Summers

MIGHT COMEBACK:

Nefertari

Helene

Gil

CJ Hook

Evelyn Carnahan

WOULD LIKE TO PLAY:

Isabelle Lightwood

Clary Fray

tagged by:  None, but lifted from @1000liveslived

tagging: Everyone!

[janeboleyns]

Historical Five on Fives

Tagged by @juliacaesaris !

Top Historical Characters:

Edward IV

Kleopatra Selene

Nefertiti

Elizabeth Woodville

Margaret Tudor

Top Historical OTP’s:

Edward IV and Elizabeth Woodville

Kleopatra Selene and Juba II

Nefertiti and Akhenaten

Elizabeth of York and Henry VII

Margaret Tudor and James IV

Top Historical Non Fiction:

( i don’t read a lot of these, so I’m lumping in documentaries! )

Elizabeth of York: a Tudor Queen and her world

Patterns of Evidence: exodus

Royal diseases: haemophilia and Porphyria

Russia’s lost princesses

The six wives with Lucy Worsley

Top Historical films/shows

Vikings

The white princess / the white queen ( its trash, but I love it )

The tudors

Marie Antoinette

Belle

Top Historical Fiction

The Red Tent by Anita Diamant

Nefertiti: a novel by Michelle Moran

The Heretic Queen by Michelle Moran

Cleopatra’s Daughter by Michelle Moran

The White Queen by Philippa Gregory

[mediaeval-muse]

Book Review... Michelle Moran, “Cleopatra’s Daughter”

Rating: 3/5 stars

Summary:  At the dawn of the Roman Empire, when tyranny ruled, a daughter of Egypt and a son of Rome found each other... Selene's legendary parents are gone. Her country taken, she has been brought to the city of Rome in chains, with only her twin brother, Alexander, to remind her of home and all she once had. Living under the watchful eyes of the ruling family, Selene and her brother must quickly learn how to be Roman – and how to be useful to Caesar. She puts her artistry to work, in the hope of staying alive and being allowed to return to Egypt. Before long, however, she is distracted by the young and handsome heir to the empire... When the elusive ‘Red Eagle' starts calling for the end of slavery, Selene and Alexander are in grave danger. Will this mysterious figure bring their liberation, or their demise?

Reviewer Comments: I picked up this book after seeing some praise for it on Tumblr, and after reading it for myself, I’m a little mixed. On the one hand, I loved Selene and the efforts the author took to portray Roman society. On the other, the book did a lot of things that annoy me about historical fiction in general. Overall, it’s an enjoyable read, but not one I’d recommend for someone who is looking for an accurate portrayal of history.

Things I Liked

Culture Shock: A lot of books I’ve read about Ancient Rome portray Roman culture as the height of civilization, despite many of the “barbaric” customs. With our main character, Selene, being the lens through which the reader sees Rome, we get a very different take on Roman culture. Everything seems to be shocking and the negative aspects are clearly highlighted. The book even makes an effort to separate Greek and Roman culture while also highlighting its similarities, which I appreciated (since a lot of people seem to say they’re the same). It’s a welcome change from books where Rome can essentially do no wrong.

Challenge of Slavery as an Institution: There were some moments in this book that asked readers to think about slavery as an institution. Roman slavery is different from the slavery in early America, and I think this book did a good job of portraying how it is still reprehensible despite appearances of slaves being valued members of a Roman family (such as the character Gallia). I liked that scenes in the book asked readers to contemplate what would happen to Rome if slavery were repealed or even if certain laws were changed to improve the life of slaves. Of course, this isn’t me saying that I condone slavery or think Roman slavery wasn’t so bad... I just like it when novels explore culture in a way that’s nuanced.

Octavian: The character of Octavian surprised me. One moment he was a paranoid, power-hungry caesar and the next, his attitudes were being positively influenced by the people around him. He desires power, but at one time, he intervenes in the treatment of a slave (surprising, given that the slave has no importance to the story as a whole). He also comes to treat Selene with some degree of reverence and respect, even admiring the work she does for his architect. I like characters that are complex, even if they are villainous or antagonistic.

Things I Didn’t Like

Portrayal of Women: Look, Rome wasn’t a feminist utopia, but I do wish authors would default to something other than “women were breeders with no rights and were horribly oppressed.” Moran doesn’t quite go this far, but she toes the line, in my opinion. The book continuously talks about how girls were only valued for marriage, and several sexual assaults (or attempted assaults) occur in the book (one against Selene when she is only eleven years old). One minor character is only really in the novel to be an example of a thirteen year old girl who is married to an old man, only to be impregnated and have her daughter ordered to be abandoned to die because it isn’t a male child. The female characters in this book also seem to be at war with one another, with a few exceptions. Livia, in particular, was way too cartoonish for my taste.

Prose: Most of this book is dialogue, which means a lot of info is told to the reader instead of shown. Roman culture is told to Selene, which means a lot of it is simply related to us, the reader. I get a little tired of constant dialogue, which makes the prose feel uninspired and plain.

Pace: I feel like, because so much is explained to the reader instead of shown, this book moves at way too quick a pace. But also, in parts, it seems to drag. Perhaps it’s because of the focus of the novel: Moran is much more interested in Selene’s childhood in Rome than she is in the historical Selene’s marriage to Juba and her influence over his policies. It’s not that Selene’s childhood isn’t interesting - maybe such a meandering story through the various aspects of Roman life isn’t for me.

Historicity: There are several aspects to this novel that feel more modern than Roman, including the treatment of homosexuality. Same-sex relationships are treated with shock and speculation, though never openly condemned. Selene also seems to be shocked by a few things because they’re different from life in Egypt, but some of these things make out Rome to be barbaric and violent while Egypt is refined (a dichotomy I don’t think is as simple as that). A few other things felt modern as well, and while it can be a reflection of how ancient Rome was similar to today in some senses, I don’t think enough work was done to normalize ancient culture.

Recommendations: I would recommend this book if you’re interested in:

ancient Rome, Roman culture, rule of Gaius Octavius (Augustus)

life of Kleopatra Selene

coming of age novels

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[aradeia]

Have you seen HBO's Rome? And what did you think of it if you did?

Hello! I’ve seen HBO Rome a few times, and I’m surprised I forgot to name it on that list I posted earlier. HBO Rome is... a lot of things. First, it does some things right. The way they showed life of lower class Romans was really well done. The brutality and gang violence that permeated all levels of society during the fall of the Republic is often ignored in history classes, but it played a major role in the politics of the 1st century BCE. Figures like Clodius Pulcher, Fulvia, Mark Antony, and Dolabella ran mobs (or at least were connected to them in someway). Many political figures benefitted from their associations with mobs, and others (like Clodius Pulcher) were killed due to vendettas/blood feuds/mob violence. Who knows how many average Romans suffered because of the gangs. 

But HBO Rome really let me down too. It was incredibly sexist. The characterization of Servilia was outrageous. Historically, Servilia was an incredibly political woman in her own right. Cicero mentions that she disliked that her son Brutus and his co-conspirator Cassius were to be given insignificant posts after the assassination of Caesar, and so she simply stated that she would have the insignificant post removed from the senatorial decree in which they were assigned (Ad Attiucm 15.11). She was influential enough that she could promise to have a senatorial decree altered. And while it’s true that Servilia and Caesar had an affair at one point, that Servilia’s sole motivation to act politically was Caesar’s scorn is absolutely ridiculous and wildly sexist. Servilia had political views of her own that likely had nothing to do with her love or sex life. Also, the manipulative relationship between Servilia and Octavia (who are several decades apart in age) played into several lesbophobic stereotypes and was over all pretty darn homophobic.

Atia and Octavia’s characters were also demolished on the show. Historically, Atia was a supportive, loving mother who died well before Octavian came into his full power. She had absolutely nothing to do with Mark Antony. Her sole purpose on the show seems to be to show inhumane cruelty and graphic sex scenes. Octavia, on the other hand, was historically one of the most compassionate, caring people in all of Roman history. After Octavian came into power, she sheltered as many children of Octavian’s political enemies as she could save, particularly the children of Mark Antony, who had publicly humiliated and discarded her. She raised Iullus Antonius, Alexander Helios, Kleopatra Selene, and Ptolemy Philadelphus, all the children of Mark Antony and the last three the children of Antony and Kleopatra. No doubt she saved their lives. On the show, she’s reduced to being cold, sexualized, and she commits incest in order to wrest some information out of her brother. That was really gross and completely unnecessary.

So, while I enjoyed watching it the first time around, the sexism is just a little too much for me to handle now. I can’t really recommend it. I’m hoping we’ll get a decent show about the fall of the Republic sometime within the next few years, because we all deserve something that does better and treats the women on the show as genuine characters, with motivations and politics of their own.

[cleopatraselena]

Juba II (48 BC–AD 23/24), son of Juba I, husband of Kleopatra Selene, father of Ptolemy of Mauretania

“ Juba II (48 BC–AD 23/24) ruled Mauretania – northwestern Africa – as a Roman client king for half a century, from 25 BC until his death. Moreover, he was a notable scholar, a product of the intellectual flourishing of the Augustan world. His extensive literary output exists today only in fragments, but is the basis of modern understanding of the ancient comprehension of the southern half of the known world, the vast stretch from the Atlantic coast of northwest Africa to India. Juba was not alone as a scholarly king but was the exemplar of that unusual blend of talents, and was called in antiquity “rex literatissimus.” His scholarship was found significant by successors as diverse as Pliny, Plutarch, and Athenaios. An essential, yet enigmatic, part of Juba’s environment is the personality of his wife, Kleopatra Selene (40–ca. 5 BC), the daughter of Marcus Antonius and Kleopatra VII. As queen of Mauretania (and also titular queen of the Kyrenaika) she played a crucial role at the royal court; as heiress of the Ptolemies she brought not only stature but a rich cultural inheritance that was to be a major influence on Juba’s research. Yet because of the deficiency of source material and her early death she is often hard to see, although her presence was profound.” Duane Roller