#Ptolemy

[lejay-the-impossible]

The memory of Ptolemy

[pompomnium]

Ptolemy&Nat＋Bart Ptolemy and Nat give me the impression of the sun and the moon, warm and cold colors. The colors of their skin and costumes also contrast with each other. They are polar opposites. But they are both stubborn and make the same choice in the end. They seem to be opposites, but they are surprisingly similar. I like this contrast between them.

[nemfrog]

Geocentric advocacy. Astronomy : a popular handbook. c. 1913.

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[winter2468]

"It's been 2,129 years since Ptolemy died. He was fourteen. Eight world empires have risen up and fallen away since that day, and I still carry his face. Who do you think is the lucky one?"

biting tearing rending climbing up the wall

[porksoda-07]

[nero-draco]

[narinick]

The Hanged Man

Ptolemy gave me a small salute, then his head fell back gently against the wall… All light around me vanished, my consciousness departed; the Other Place pulled me away. Furiously, against my will, I accepted Ptolemy's last gift.

[mapsontheweb]

The world according to Herodotus, Erathosthenes, and Ptolemy; work by Eckart Olshausen

[yukisetsura]

Ptolemaeus

[chengchengj]

Ptolemy: Alexander, you need to- Alexander, tearing up: Hephaestion always used to call me Alexander. Ptolemy: Because it's your goddamn name.

[jeannereames]

So you said you hoped they didn't use those nicknames, Alex, Heph, and Ptol. I thought Heph was a little weird, but I didn't mind the others. What nicknames would you have suggested instead? You said you suggested Greek ones. What were they?

Ah.... I'm glad somebody asked!

First, I've talked HERE about nicknames and endearments in ancient Greece. It's not the same as now. Not every culture makes nicknames by shortening. Yet even in my own novels I used nicknames to make unfamiliar names more accessible to readers.

So I get why nicknames might be valuable. But it's possible to use more likely ones!

What would be natural Greek nicknames? First, the names we know them by are Latinized, not their real names. In Dancing with the Lion I used the actual Greek, because it affected only a few and weren't that different. But here are the Latin, Greek, and known/likely nicknames.

Alexander = Alexandros (a-LEX-an-dros) = Aleko(s)

Ptolemy = Ptolemaios (tol-eh-MAI-os) = Ptolas

Hephaestion = Hephaistion (he-pais-TEE-on) = Phaistas/Phaiton

"Alex" and "Tol" aren't that far off. But "Heph"? Really? HUGH HEFNER is who immediately comes to mind: give him a pipe and a smoking robe. Maybe they thought "young people won't know..." but chatting with a 23-year-old student, that was the first thing she said. "It sounds like Hugh Hefner."

Virtually all I've heard from people is ridicule for the nicknames. This is one thing I completely disavow all responsibility for. I told them.

[lejay-the-impossible]

Some Ptolemy (and bird! Bart) designs. I think the urge to reread The Bartimaeus Trilogy is getting onto me...

I was too lazy to do research so I have no idea if this lapwing is accurate or not

I'm trying to feed you, Bartimaeus fandom, please don't die yet, I still want you to like the art I will do after my reread

[pompomnium]

I drew over 50 pages of a manga like this for a fan event in Japan. I can't post it on Tumblr due to capacity, but I will eventually put it on pixiv and other places(maybe).

“Were Ptolemy and Nathaniel similar?” That was the theme of manga.

I really love the character Nathaniel. He is not an obvious good guy like Ptolemy, nor does he have a strong sense of justice like Kitty (strictly speaking, I don't think Kitty has a strong sense of justice. She just hates lying to herself a lot. Her principle of action is always for her own satisfaction, not for others. But that's the beauty of Kitty. Of course). Nathaniel is a boy who was taught from an early age to hate spirits and learned that love and justice are useless when he lost Mrs. Underwood. But in the end he opened his heart to Kitty and overcame his hatred to love Bartimaeus. After all, he was also a boy who could throw himself away for the sake of others.

The most important thing for a human being is not to not make mistakes. It is to realize one's mistakes and try to correct them. Nathaniel was a boy who could do that; at PG he realized his mistake and regretted it, even though he was still a teenage boy. It is often not easy for even adults to admit their mistakes in life. So I really love and respect that part of Nathaniel. I also wonder what kind of person he would have been if he had grown up in a different environment. Well, but this piece is interesting because Nathaniel is such a twisted character. Haha. Well, I know I'm off subject, but I was drawing something like that in contrast to Ptolemy.

Well, I finished this manga and I will post more artworks in a while. Thank you for reading this far.

[my-chiliarch]

From Alexandros: Sekai Teikoku E No Yume by Yoshikazu Yasuhiko.

(Unfortunately it's not explicitly homoerotic, but I love the art <3)

[winter2468]

Bartimaeus in the Ring of Solomon is just so fresh-faced compared to the Bartimaeus we know. His essence aches but he's still strong. He's half the age he was when we first met him. The tragedy of Ptolemy is still in his future.

He's so happy.

It just makes me wonder... because the closest Bartimaeus ever came to knowing a human like Ptolemy was a sort of awkward combination of Kitty and Nathaniel (the idealism of one and the skill of the other and the trust of both), but they could not match Ptolemy, Nathaniel's dead, Kitty might die young as a result of undergoing Ptolemy's Gate, and where does that leave Bartimaeus?

Because we never see how he is after Nathaniel's death, and I can't believe that the grief wasn't there.

[porksoda-07]

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