#kipperlilly clerickiller

[bthemistake]

- "I don't recognize you" -

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The characters from the adventuring party Rat Grinders from the web show Dimension 20 Fantasy High: Junior Year, excluding Buddy Dawn.

Lucy Frostblade stands, sullen and blue, staring outwards to the viewer while the ghosts of her old party stand behind her, eyeless and red. Lucy has her hair in braids tied back into a messy updo and a knitted sweater-dress that reaches halfway down her thighs, paired with knee-high socks and heavy boots. She has vitiligo and elfish ears, turned down rather than pointed upwards.

Kipperlilly Copperkettle, Ruben Hopclap, Mary Ann Skuttle, Ivy Embra, and Oisin Hakinvar hang behind her. Kipperlilly has a dagger in hand and is poised to stike, expression concerned. Ruben has his guitar, pick in hand and pulling down on the strings. Mary Ann looks unbothered and off to the side. Ivy has her body turned in the opposite direction and looks over her shoulder with a smirk, bow ready in hand, and Oisin smiles.

In a turn of the tables, they're all dead and Lucy is the lone survivor of the Rat Grinders party. She struggles to recognize her friends, so warped by their anger and rage, and can't even ask them why because they're gone. There's no High Five Heroes, no Rat Grinders, there is only Lucy and she must find her answers by herself.

The first image is in colour, the second is just the line art, and the third is the on-paper sketch that was traced to digital.

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[starboyonion]

lil sketch!! probably won’t render this cause,,, i don’t really want to (but this scene. oh my god this scene.)

[smolandweirdwriter]

"I cast legend lore on you and nothing came up" is actually such a stone-cold insult I love it

[feelingtheaster99]

Oh my gosh Beardsley that was SO SMART to figure out the people whose blood crystallizes are the people who TURN DOWN being brought back to worship Ankarna god DAMN

[starsingularity]

I forgive her tbh

[d3ad-squid]

Before the storm❄️🦋🩵

I love me some doomed by the narrative yuri🫡 frostkettle nation rise up✊✊

[gay-little-treat-wizard]

As someone who had anger and violence issues in high-school that's not an excuse for any of the shit Kipperlily did. Like my anger issues made me lash out but it didn't make me turn on my friends or think that I'm so much better than anyone else that I deserved to succeed as much as the people working their ass of.

Literally a guy in my class lost his mum near grad and you know what I didn't do? Get upset that he busted his ass to earn a scholarship he dedicated to her. I just felt bad for him.

Like Kipperlily is a terrible person and that's why she's interesting, so trying to polish her motivation so she’s sympathetic just makes her a more boring character. Just because someone has a mental illness, that doesn't make them a good person or sympathetic. Illnes doesn't mean you're absolved of the harm you perpetuate.

I like that she's a terrible person who kind of reminds me of someone who'd complain about affirmative action and having nothing to write in her college essays. I like getting an irredeemable female character and feel no need to justify enjoying that she's awful.

I like the #Frostkettle ship because I think it's tragic that Lucy pooled all her love into someone who turned around and stabbed her in the back. And it makes Kipperlily even more unsympathetic since someone did try to reach out and at the very least be friends with her. Acting like that relationship was in any way healthy, especially after Arkana, just feels silly.

Also the bad kids actions are not equivalent because most of the fucked up shit they do to people comes after those people actively antagonised or tried to kill them, I.e. coach daybreak actively trying to bring about the apocalypse, Biz tried to kidnap adine for weird pervert reasons, Johnny spells was an actual predator.

What did the rats do to the rat grinders? There are plenty of less sentient monsters they could have grinded like spiders. Sorry spider lovers but spiders aren't known for their intelligence or ability to build hidden cities.

I fully admit that the last point was silly but all else still stands.

[becausesure]

The small skirmish between Riz and Kipperlilly is so funny to me

Rouges without sneak attack are practically useless

Kipperlilly slashes him with 8 points of damage and Riz hits back with 7 and only does decent damage because of a long rest goblin ability fury of the small adding his level dealing a total of 21

Kipperlilly can't even sneak attack Riz because (presumably) he still has the alert feat so Kipperlilly Cannot gain advantage from hiding

Then they just yell at each other because they can't really do anything else

Without sneak attack they would just do minimal damage unit someone just gives up

[tullyyy]

I love a character warped by their anger tee hee.

[gayandtrashy]

Let the toxic Yuri live

[cant-say-tomorrow-day]

next essay I write is gonna be an analysis of FHJY and how Kipperlilly's viewpoint and perception parallels what students are taught to value and emphasize when it comes to the college admissions process and writing college essays (aka trauma is a golden ticket)

[frntbttmsstn]

Thinking about the Bad Kids because Elmville is a relatively small town right? So even if Adaine/Fabian moved into town later (god knows I don’t remember if this is true or if I made it all up) it’s semi likely that Riz, Gorgug, Kristen, and Fig would have known at least some of the Rat Grinders as kids right? Like in theory we know of an elementary/middle school in town, I have to wonder what it would feel like to watch kids you might have vaguely knew on the playground, or kids who annoyed you in middle school, suddenly show up and become absolutely murderous. I have to wonder if any of the aforementioned Bad Kids ever stopped to think about the Rat Grinders when they were young? Did Kristen and Buddy ever meet at church? Did their parents suggest they become friends? Did they trade friendship bracelets at camp? Does Kristen remember it was his, does she still wear it? What about Gorgug and Lucy, always the tallest kids in class, were they always next to each other in class photos? Get paired up for gym class games? Did Lucy’s parents recommend clothing stores to Gorgug’s? Did Fig and Kipperlily do cheer together in middle school? Did she get invited to the sleepovers? Did she turn on Fig when her horns came in? Did Fig temper her rage like Lucy eventually would? Did Riz and Ruben always get paired up for being small? Did they trade sweaters because they were the only ones who fit? Did they play hide and seek in school and trade hiding spots? Did any of them get invited to birthday parties for the others? Did they all play games at recess? Did they share a language class in middle school? Did any of them notice when their friends/classmates/kids they recognized in the halls became hateful? Do any of the Bad Kids regret it, regret not staying in contact, regret not checking in? Even when they’re older, they shared classes with all of them, do you think any of the Bad Kids are quietly just thinking to themself: “How did I not notice?”

The thing about growing up where everyone knows each other, is that everyone knows everyone in some small way. I have to wonder how many of the Bad Kids have paused to wonder if they had done it all differently (they couldn’t if they tried), if they had been more aware (they couldn’t have been), if they had just reached out (why would they? why would something be wrong?) if they wouldn’t be here.

[theology101]

DING DONG THE WITCH IS DEAD!

which old witch? THE WICKED WITCH!

Honestly, the fact that this completely SCREWED them over and it wasn’t an ability, a skill or anything - it was just timing and intelligence

[barnacles-and-brimstone]

i have some thoughts about Kipperlilly and how she’s mad because Riz’s life has been harder than hers, and how that relates to trauma.

I’ve seen a lot of people saying it’s really fucked up that she wishes she had that tragic backstory or family death because it gives them an “unfair advantage”, and yeah I agree that the reasoning’s messed up. They definitely don’t have an advantage, and Riz didn’t ask for a hard time and didn’t deserve it, but just because she is asking for one doesn’t mean she deserves it either.

I feel bad for Kipperlilly personally, I can empathise with her longing for that tragedy. Sometimes when a person has a lot of micro-traumas, for example emotional abuse of your friends repeatedly doing things to trigger your anger issues (which you are trying to work on with a councillor), or the pain of knowing you died and came back different, people do find themselves wishing awful things have happened to them. It’s a way of validation. It’s a thinking trap of “maybe if people could see the pain I was in, they’d help”. And that really fucks you up, I’ve been there. And then when something bad does happen, you blame yourself and think you deserve it because you asked for it.

So yeah, I think Kipperlilly’s thinking is flawed, but I don’t blame her for it. I don’t think she’s fundamentally a bad person because of it. Sometimes attention seeking behaviours are because they’re necessary - needing attention because you’re hurting (eg. due to uncontrolled anger issues) is valid. It’s not healthy when it’s actively hurting others, but it should be recognised at least by Jawbone that there could well be an underlying reason for her thinking and acting in that way.

Kipperlilly, I’m sorry for how they’re treating you. I’m not trying to victimise you, because you are causing harm, and that is wrong. But I see you. I hope you can learn to accept that pain is relative.

[feelingtheaster99]

The HORRIBLE beat of silence when Kipperlilly kills Buddy… just the whole table with their jaws dropped, all in this terrible sense of grief and surprise

[chi-wow-wait-what]

Nobody can make me hate kipperlilly copperkettle. I just love a complicated teenage girl with anger issues. I love a girl with a dead best friend who is haunting the narrative.