#killing eve season 4 spoilers

[cissyenthusiast010155]

~𝓒𝓪𝓻𝓸𝓵𝔂𝓷 𝓜𝓪𝓻𝓽𝓮𝓷𝓼 (𝓚𝓲𝓵𝓵𝓲𝓷𝓰 𝓔𝓿𝓮) 𝓢𝓮𝓪𝓼𝓸𝓷𝓼 1-4

[noonvoid]

frothing at the mouth actually. still can’t believe she said eve can go back to a “normal” life now where, iirc, she can get married again, live a domestic life. because the obsession with villanelle was just a phase. now she can go back to normal. like do you get it. do you get the biphobic allegory??? and then killing the lesbian the second she became actually happy?? in such a brutal way??? then saying the lesbian’s bisexual partner can finally move on and be normal. okay.

[sokkas-therapist]

Started Killing Eve last Monday, finished it at 3:00am last night, devastated. changed forever. will never be the same.

[wandering-alien]

What do you think of Killing Eve S4's ending? When I first watched it I think I was just extremely caught up in the moment (and less online, perhaps) so I didn't really explore fan theories on the internet, but I rewatched the whole show and am reading a lot of theories now. It seems like a lot of people believe Villanelle is still alive and that her death was faked, but there are also people who've gone with the ending we saw on screen, so now I am very curious to know what other people think.

[thestarlightforge]

Shit like Killing Eve is genuinely why like 70% of my current watch list is modern Star Trek & low-key Paramount+ remakes/reboots. Because THEY don’t

PUNISH ME.

The MOST PAIN I’VE FELT from a modern Trek show is a tie b/w MICHAEL & SPOCK’S GOODBYE, which was BEAUTIFUL and NOBODY DIED; ICHEB’S DEATH, which was VERY SAD but THOUGHTFUL and FORMATIVE FOR SEVEN, who I LOVE; and HEMMER’S DEATH, which was TRAGIC, but HEY, at least HE’S been BACK.

And CALL iCarly JUVENILE IF YOU WANT TO, but Freddie & Carly are HEALTHY & TOGETHER, Carly’s BFSS (Best Friend Since Sam) is a black, bi/pan icon, and at least HARPER is ALIVE, OKAY?

Like. Do I WISH I could enjoy shows like Killing Eve—with MASTERFUL ACTORS like Sandra & Jodie & Fiona giving it their all, plus some writers & directors who DO GET IT? OFC. Would I trade all but the last 30 seconds of the finale for almost anything? NO.

But is it WORTH IT?

IDFK AT THE END OF THE DAY 🫠

[ethan-nestor-owns-my-heart]

To anyone who believed in the killing eve secret 9th episode theory I’m sorry, My bad

[unumsomnium]

I’m listening to the Codename Villanelle audiobook. I…am so disappointed. Good on the show runners, writers, and cast for elevating something underwhelming into peak brain rot fuel. I appreciate the show so much more now. What a cursed reality. The desired ending in meh book format. The undesired ending in quality screen format.

[funkylilworm]

Why I think that killing off Adam was the biggest mistake Viv could make

TW: ranting and spoilers

This entire blog is just gonna be me going on a rant about my opinion on why I think Adam shouldn't of been killed off and why he shouldn't be killed off so early and shit , not only did I not see it as unnecessary for the plot, but there's so much Vivienne could of done for his character other than just throwing the whole character away in just one season , I'll be listing things for what they could of done for Adam's character

1. Plotholes

I'm just gonna say it right here and right now, Adam was killed off waaay too early and not only would we be left with many many plot holes like, where is both of his sons (Caine and Abel), the potential they could of used for his character, and ect.

2. Character potential

^^this fucking scene^^ , because the thought of when Adam first pulling up and being like "Hello, Adam here!!" Is just so fucking funny to me (just less plagiarized, and more unique)

and maybe his arrival leads to his words "Hell is forever" ,his own song gets used against him sense not only did he have the audacity to go to the hotel to get back into heaven but he has said it himself, how redemption isn't possible

But references aside ,Adam can have some potential for his character, like maybe he not only comes to the hotel not only for the intention of going back to Heaven because he hates being down in hell but also for the intention of plotting some revenge for what the hotel residents all did to him

,but the longer he stays there the less and less he tries to plot his revenge , the more and more he realized how flawed heaven and heaven's people are most of the time, and ect.

And ect. and he's so indenial of it at first and doesn't want to believe it but no matter how much he tries there's no denying it , deep down he knows it's true but he doesn't want to believe it

3. Character potential (again)

Like maybe Adam has become fallen in the first place because not only did him sinning in Heaven eventually catch up to him, but maybe also because after finding out the exterminations were unnecessary after Sir Pentious entered the heavens gates, it was finally time for Adam to take his fall

They can also actually start touching on Adam's trauma and how it affects him, his trauma being : being forced into a relationship the moment he was created (Lilith and Eve) , having to be the father and/or decendant of all of the human race , having been kicked out of the garden after Lucifer has second handedly invented evil into the world , and said evil causing his son to kill his other son(which is his and God's fault also)

Like maybe sense Vivziepop is putting a slight different spin to things to Hazbin hotel, she doesn't really having to follow the entire list (sense it's her show) , she can still do something with some of it and still find a way to bring it up and with that it could be the reason behind how he behaves , his personality as a whole, and why he wears that narcissistic mask (while it doesn't necessarily excuse his actions)

4. Character design

If Adam was to somehow end up coming back as a fallen angel, as a sinner. Viv can find a way to go crazy with his fallen design, like any other cartoonist in this world, I know that those cartoonist has seen fanart and fan creations of their shows, movies, and characters

I've seen my fair share of seeing really really good fallen designs for Adam and I'm fucking here for it , they're all so good

,it just needs to happen

5. Character development & redemption arc

Like mentioned in Character potential 2 , Adam can have some potential for his character, like maybe he not only comes to the hotel not only for the intention of going back to Heaven because he hates being down in hell but also for the intention of plotting some revenge for what the hotel residents all did to him

but the longer he stays there the less and less he tries to plot his revenge , the more and more he realized how flawed heaven and heaven's people are most of the time, and ect.

And ect. and he's so indenial of it at first and doesn't want to believe it but no matter how much he tries there's no denying it , deep down he knows it's true but he doesn't want to believe it . Like maybe Adam just still acts the same but without him realizing it or acknowledging it he's just becoming a better person and maybe even comedically he just thinks that the misfits gave him a disease /illness when that's not the case

Maybe in the next seasons he could even become a better father to his sons, Caine and Abel but similar to Lucifer, let them do their own thing sense those two are basically adults now and hey, Adam could be more like a cool dad

I feel like Adam has more cool dad energy

6. The relationships he'll end up making

Just imagine the relationships Adam slowly but gradually builds during his redemption arc, like maybe him and Charlie ending having like an fun uncle and niece kind of relationship or something, maybe slowly but gradually he becomes like another friend of Angel Dust's, and ect.

As he processes through his redemption arc he can end up making friends and building relationships down in hell , possibly in the near future Charlie, Vaggie, Angeldust, Alastor, Cherri bomb, Husk, Nifty, Razzle, and Lucifer doesn't fight against him but with him if another threat were to come

7. There could be another antagonists that's worse or maybe even a bigger threat than Adam

Maybe another antagonists could be made that's more of a mystery and even a bigger threat than Adam , that's just like Adam (or not) but amp up the bad traits he has, maybe this time Adam could be the one helping the others fight and rebel against this guy in his own way

8. Another musical number

Another musical number with them singing badly about heaven in song in the near future but this time with Charlie ,Vaggie, Angeldust, Alastor, Cherri bomb, Husk, Nifty, Razzle, Lucifer, and most of all Adam but the reprise has a metal spin to it and this time Adam joins in and does it with his guitar

9. Another reason she shouldn't of killed off Adam is because she'd be killing off fat /plus size representation

Another reason I feel like Viv shouldn't of killed off Adam is because she'd be killing of fat character representation and I wouldn't want a chubby character like Adam to be killed off

,of course we have Mimzy now but she doesn't count sense she's just one character and only just one character and as much as I love Mimzy I feel like the show needs more than just one or two fat characters

And for the people that think "He isn't chubby" , try again and look at him again , how he sits , lays down (like how he was laying after her got shanked in his arm by Charlie), and ect.

10. I just want some vulnerable moments with Adam

Whether that be Adam bawling his eyes out, having a panic attack, having a mental/emotional breakdown, or ect. I just want to see a vulnerable side of Adam, Adam angst if you will

Okay I'm done ranting, bye <3 <3

[euniexenoblade]

Mordred do you have any anime or manga recommendations you havent talked about recently?

I feel like there's a lot of anime I never talk about for one reason or another, like RN I'm writing up a whole thing about maidime (maid anime) for my anime blog and if I ever get it done then yay but it's dragging lmao

But yeah, I really liked the adaptation of Children of the Whales, the world building is insane and the animation was so spectacular for a TV anime. Really stands apart from most shows.

I really like the show Erased. Time travel and time loops aren't that uncommon but still I felt that Erased found a really neat way to tackle the topic of it. It's a real fucked up story so trigger warnings for child murder and serial killer shit, but for real spectacular show. Basically there's a serial killer and dude goes back in time to be his kid self and uses his adult knowledge to try and stop the killer.

I mention this show plenty I think but I always need to sing it's praises, Humanity Has Declined is probably in my top 15 TV shows. It's such a fun, bright take on a post apocalypse and it's so funny. If you take anything away from this post, watch this show. Whenever I try to compare it to anything, the only thing I can think of is Adventure Time, it's a bright whimsical comical telling of happenings after an apocalypse. Though plot wise it's nothing like AT so, maybe the comparison isn't the best. But essentially the protagonist is a UN representative to go between the remaining humans and the newly evolved fairies. The arcs are in reverse chronological order and its lovely tbh lol.

Time of Eve is one of the first shows I really hooked into. It got rereleased as a movie, so whatever version you find is right. But it's about a world where there's robot house keepers and shit and one day the protag follows his robot to a coffee shop where robots meet and have the ability to be free. It's very nice and I should rewatch it I haven't seen it in a long ass time.

To get that yuri rep in there, if you've never watched Maria-sama ga Miteru (Maria Watches Over Us) you gotta drop your toes in. It's four seasons but you'll know if it's for you or not right away. A girl attends an all girls Catholic school and gets caught up in the student council and the personalities in it. Imo this is the premier Class S yuri and I love this series so much.

I could go on and on honestly.

As for manga, I'd say my manga opinions are very known cuz I post all sorts of screencaps and shit as I read, but considering most of that was on my old blog.

Read Liberta. Just do it. Vampire lesbian escapism fantasy. It's awesome.

The Summer Hikaru Died is a gay horror. Basically a dude's best friend goes missing and then suddenly turns back up months later. But the dude knows it's not his friend because he saw his friend's dead body in the forest. That's not a spoiler, that's like 4 pages in. It's phenomenal.

I think I see people try to disparage it these days, but Future Diary was a really good read. Dude ends up in a weird game where his cell phone tells the future and he has to kill other people who have prophetic phones (and vice versa) so they may become a new god. But on top of this one of the players is a yandere girl obsessed with being with him. The anime adaptation is good too just be ready for them to show. Too much. Watch the TV show version and not the Blu-rays, they uncensored stuff in the Blu-ray and it's such a weird decision when you see it.

Goodbye Eri and Look Back are both one shots by the Chainsaw Man author. Both deal with losing someone dear to you at a young age and both handle it in completely different ways. Both are fantastic though.

I could go on and on and on

[romancomicsblog]

5 Characters who should get an Invincible Special Episode

Invincible Season 2 has just wrapped up, and while some fans are a little disappointed with its ending, overall the general consensus has been positive. From excellent music, to phenomenal voice work and animation, along with X-Men '97 its been a great time to be a superhero fan AND an animation fan.

This season also brought in a handful of new characters, as well brought some fan favorites to the forefront, including Allen the Alien, Rex Splode and Immortal.

I think I speak for everyone when I say I love being in this universe, and would love to see more. And while I know Season 3 will be here sooner than Season 2 was, I've been thinking about all those incredible characters and the Atom Eve Special.

It went a long way in showing how good the animation got, expanding on Atom Eve, and evening building up threats like The Lizard League.

I think theres alot of potential in expanding some of these characters, seeing their origins and helping build up their character development.

So I'm going to go through some, along with ideas as to how the episodes can play out. Spoiler Warning for Invincible Season 1 & 2 and mild spoilers from the comics.

5. Bulletproof

Starting off with one of the newest members of the Guardians of the Globe, Zandale Randolph AKA Bulletproof is definitely a character you forgot was in this season.

While he is known for a few big things in the future, he didn't really get to do much this season. He wasn't very useful in the sequid invasion, didn't really help in any major fights, nor do we know anything about him. So why him?

His history in the comics is rather tragic, and I think is something we are going to explore. His twin brother, a mad genius, attempts experimenting on Zandale in order to give himself superpowers. Instead it gives Zandale superpowers, and kills his brother.

Due to this, and unable to tell his parents, he pretends to be both brothers to preserve his brothers legacy.

That tragedy is alot, and could make for an amazing episode, with his brother being the villain and explain why he is so guarded.

Plus, I love Jay Pharoah. More Jay Pharoah please.

4. Dupli-Kate

We got some hints at Dupli-Kates origin in her eulogy from Immortal. Her powers come from a curse upon her family, that led to both her and her brother gaining the ability to multiply.

What you don't know is they started off as a brother sister team before going their separate ways.

We actually see Kate's brother Multi-Paul in the cell when the Maulers escape again. Seeing a young version of Multi-Paul before their inevitable confrontation in a later season could give us more stakes.

Yes, this is another sibling rivalry just like Bulletproof, but this could start way more fun than Bulletproofs.

And two multipliers who are children fighting it out in a dramatic finish? Also good television.

3. Monster Girl

Talk about a tragedy.

Monster Girl's curse was given to her after falling in love with a man whose grandmother disapproved of her. That grandmother was a witch, who turned her into an ogre with extraordinary power.

We don't get much else from her origin, which could give us some wiggle room.

This could start as a love story turned horror story, unable to get out of her monster form, feeling trapped in her own body. We can have the witch be an Agatha Harkness type, and a physical threat in the episode too.

Once she is defeated, Amanda is able to turn back and be with the man she loves, until she realizes months later, that she is getting younger, and he breaks her heart.

The beats are all there, and I'd love to see a magic based episode in the Invincible Universe mixed in with some Hulk style action. Plus, building up Amanda will be important as she is vital in the comics.

2. Thaedus The Great Betrayer

You didn't think I was only picking Guardians did you?

Thaedus' episode could be by far the most interesting, showing us Viltrum from a first hand perspective, before he betrayed and before he formed the Coalition.

I don't want to get too heavy into spoilers, but he causes a brutal blow on the Viltrum Empire I'd love to see first hand. We can keep Peter Cullen, or get a younger voice actor, but either way, seeing a younger Viltrum Empire would be very intriguing and a bloodbath.

1. Rex Splode

Despite being one of the most annoying characters in Season 1, Rex is by far the standout of Season 2 in my eyes.

Another origin that was slightly teased, I can imagine Rex's episode can be his sad origin, meeting Atom Eve in act 2, and taking out his oppressors by the end in a good old fashioned team up.

This could be a direct sequel to the Atom Eve Special, giving us more Eve, and help us understand their relationship even better. Plus Rex being blind sided with a girl who can make anything? Sounds like a fun battle to me.

Thank you so much for reading! Please consider following, and check out my socials and other sites here! And let me know: Who do you want to see get an Invincible Special Origin Episode?

[wandering-alien]

I haven't watched Killing Eve for a while but was thinking about rewatching it again, and I've only watched s4 once, so it was on my mind and I started thinking about it.

!!Spoilers!!

I think one reason why it flopped and was so widely disliked was because of the way The Twelve was handled. I thought the reveal and backstory was anticlimactic, boring and didn't seem to have much thought put into it. The whole thing felt really unnatural to me, they didn't link Villanelle's past murders into the organisation and its purpose much, which would have been so cool and smart.

To me, it was kind of just 'what if they were a secret cabal of socialists who tried to control the world' which is lazy and boring and I thought it would have been more unique. Definitely would have appreciated a more in-depth exploration into the Cold War but I doubt that would have been good for the show because it's a bit of a niche thing and I'm a history buff, so always want history in TV shows I watch.

I haven't thought much about what I would have done, but I might come back to this post after rewatching it. Also, maybe my brain has just been overly harsh or something, I haven't watched it since it came out, sorry.

[thestarlightforge]

Little rage update to this because I found one of the articles again:

Imagine being so out of touch with your own production, you think Villanelle is happiest when murdering people.

As if she didn’t give a WHOLE MONOLOGUE about how she used to kill in a desperate attempt to find any sensation at all. As if she didn’t come out of that darkness through finally processing some of her trauma & building this relationship with Eve during S1-3.

As if that whole S3 finale never happened: The conversation with Carolyn, begging her to see value in anything besides her ability to kill, and despair when Carolyn refuses. The cracks in her voice while they dance as it finally hits her, all the people she’s killed, and she doesn’t want to kill anymore, but she steels herself & puts on one last show to kill the woman who’s after Eve bc she finally trusts Eve enough to start to be vulnerable & let her in & trust that she’ll still be there & not find her monstrous or disgusting when she gets back; the grimace as she leans into Eve on the bridge, letting her go bc it’s the selfless-love thing to do.

Villanelle didn’t send Eve up to distract the partiers because she’s happiest when killing people. (She wanted to be a goddamn interior decorator 😭 I’m begging y’all to LISTENNN.) That hasn’t been the case since season ONE, and that wasn’t even the FULL STORY back THEN. She sent her up there because she has processed her shit & she knows how horrible and irreversible it is to kill somebody. But she knew the Twelve had to die—for Eve’s sanity, Villanelle’s freedom & for them to have any chance at a free life together. So she saved Eve from that burden. Let her feel like she helped by dancing it out at a wedding, shining her light. Steeled herself, just like in S3, and got the job done.

Bc did y’all see her relief when she got back to Eve on the bridge? When it was over? The troubled expression as she watched Eve walk into the wedding? How the only time she smiled was when she came out of the kitchen to listen to Eve give her officiant speech about their relationship, and then she disappeared again—just grimacing during the killing (which was a 1 vs 12 fight without Eve btw, so ofc she couldn’t be clean about it)? Did you see the desperately sad way she kissed Eve at the bottom of the stairs before she sent her off, knowing what she was about to have to put herself through and wanting to soak in that goodness, to remind herself she’s loved somewhere before she went in and did that? How her whole body shakes after the last killing & she only smiles again once the weapon drops from her hand—as she realizes that might be the last time she ever has to do this?

Eve and Villanelle went in opposite, parallel directions over the course of the show, crashing into/embracing each other to finally find that balance and understanding. And hilariously (in the context of Neal’s comments), that journey means if anything, EVE is the one who “enjoys killing” at this point 😂 NOT Villanelle.

I literally don’t understand how any reasonable person even could come to the conclusions Laura Neal did in good faith, much less the goddamn show-runner. But then, she didn’t do it in good faith, did she. She sent the mentally ill queer woman on a quest to purify herself of sin through JESUS for 80% of a season & then SHOT her & threw her in the THAMES, the site of Eve’s acceptance in S3, so that Eve, as the formerly “straight” woman who was in love with her, could have the “relief” of getting her “NORMAL LIFE” back—

I’M—

How long am I gonna be explaining to people, I wonder:

Villanelle is a compelling and relatable character—and so similar to Catra—& her relationship with Eve heart wrenching to watch because she turned herself into a weapon at a young age so no one could hurt her anymore? (And Catra and Villanelle are both power bottoms, and no, that’s not a joke—it’s character info.)

It’s why her backstory episode with her mom in S3, and the final shot of her crying on the train, are so perfect, for all people’s complaints about S3. And then she grew and changed. And Eve came back. And she let someone hurt her. She let someone in.

Because no, most people don’t have mental health scarring to the degree that Villanelle has. (A lot of that—the spy stuff, the Twelve—can be read as a way to personify a general sense of governmental repression anyway.) But there’s something very real about being a soft-hearted person who forced yourself to become a survivor, scrapping from day to day to find any reason to live, and then finally finding someone who understands you and doesn’t want to hurt you.

And for Eve, it was compelling because she was closeted. All the trappings of her old life—from Nico and their flat full of chickens, to her desk job—were symbolic of repressive, misogynistic, comp-het culture as a whole. Villanelle represented burning all of it down: rebellion, anarchy, honesty, freedom.

And it is absolute crap—not to mention WILDLY homophobic—that it would be anything RESEMBLING a “relief” for her to lose that freedom; to say her queerness and desire for more were a phase, and she’d be happier going back into repression.

It’s crap. And it’s one of the many reasons I have to be a writer.

[ironyadays]

OK SPOILERS FOR YOU SEASON 4 PART 2 (Also TW/ mentions of suicide attempts)

The fact that every single scene from episode 8 onwards with fake rhys and Joe out of context seems like them being murder husbands>>>> (like literally when Fake Rhys pleads for Joe to not jump, to see himself the way he sees him, that he loves him...).

I mean overall the entirety of episode 10 utterly destroyed me but that bridge scene would have felt a bit more cathartic if that was the actual season finale (like maybe it's just me, but Joe has always felt like a character whose only possible route is death...or maybe I'm still salty over Killing Eve's finale dunno)

But then again, with the actual ending of the show, I'm actually curious as to what will happen to Joe going forward ngl

[cyanide-sippy-cup]

Totally late to the party, but...

BLUE SUIT CONFIRMED LET'S GO

AH-BUP-BUP! There are spoilers for the comic down here! Turn back now if you don't want that, please!

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I cannot wait to see Thragg this season! My followers know I've been dying to get just a glimpse of the lil fucked up creature man!

And I just know the Conquest fight is gonna go crazy. This season is gonna go so hard.

They're also definitely gonna have Mark and Eve get together (seeing how the comic paired them immediately, they can't drag it out that long). I'm actually really excited to see where they're taking this arc, especially after Amber's plot.

I'm still expecting that this season is gonna end on a cliffhanger for the Invincible War though. Don't think they'll cover it at all since it's a bit of a ways away but with how they set up the evil Marks and everything I totally bet they're gonna end it on a cliffhanger. The real question is if season 4's gonna pick up with that or wait a bit to really let it wallow before the punch.

WAIT HOLD UP I'M LEAVING THE ABOVE PARAGRAPH IN BUT I JUST NOTICED. That shadow doesn't match Mark's pose, but based on the hair and general structure, it does seem to belong to a Mark just off screen. Are we gonna get the Invincible War this season?! Everybody, hold Rex close before he's snatched away. (I mean there's other options it also could be but I like jumping to the extremes so :P)

Anyways when Rex dies, I'm totally posting a screenshot of that and a screenshot of Gambit's death together because I love suffering (my brother inspired the idea by saying "they killed Gambit twice" lol).

[armandjolras]

ok I have to ramble about Killing Eve’s treatment of gayness sorry. This is going to be long. Spoilers for all seasons

first of all, I think it’s noteworthy that there’s SO much casual gayness in the show. Some random mi6 guy has a boyfriend, the wedding in the finale is between two men, Helene is gay, Villanelle has many brief flings with women. And yet, there’s so much resistance from the writers towards defining or progressing Villanelle and Eve’s relationship. I feel like this is a slightly more progressive form of what Disney does with their “first gay character”, e.g. some random background character who mentions she has a wife. If they pack the show with constant references to gayness, it’s not homophobic, right? And yet there’s resistance towards making Villanelle and Eve’s relationship explicitly romantic. My guess is this was done (maybe at the request of the bbc?) to avoid being pigeonholed as a “gay show.” It’s the classic queerbaiting move of making it gay enough to get lgbt viewers, but ambiguous enough not to alienate people who might not watch it if it’s a “gay show.”

I’ve also noticed a consistent vagueness in how the cast and creatives talk about the relationship in interviews. Calling it undefinable, too complex to be a single thing, maybe it’s sexual but maybe it’s cosmic or maybe platonic, etc. It’s such a monumental relationship that it can’t possibly be labeled. That plays into the plausible deniability of whether or not it’s gay, to avoid scaring off any audiences, but I find it ESPECIALLY annoying because it feels insulting. They act like they’re doing us a favour by writing such an undefinably complex relationship — “it’s not just gay, it’s way more than that! (or maybe not gay at all who knows they transcend labels!)”

I also think they tried to maintain plausible deniability about Eve’s sexuality. The things she says to and about Villanelle are never explicitly romantic, but could be viewed as non romantic obsession. It could be argued that the bus kiss was only a distraction, and seducing Helene was for business reasons. The only sexual situation they’re in (the earpiece scene) involves Eve having sex with a man. I like these moments, but when that’s all we’re given until the very last episode of the show, it feels deliberate.

So that’s my thoughts on the show as a whole, now for season 4 specific stuff 🙃.

Season 4 throws away the central concept of the show — that Eve and Villanelle are ultimately similar and therefore uniquely understand each other. They grow towards each other, Villanelle enabling Eve to embrace her true nature as a morally grey thrill-seeker, while Eve awakens genuine emotions in Villanelle. Their relationship is weird and unconventional because they are weird and unconventional. They BOTH are — Eve definitely has Something Wrong With Her.

Instead, season 4 presents them as being innately different, with the implication that Eve is good and human while Villanelle is bad and inhuman. From Laura Neal’s interviews:

“Eve isn't a Villanelle. Villanelle isn't an Eve. They are not destined to become the same person. They are destined for different things. […]Eve is about seeking life at this moment, and Villanelle is about seeking destruction.”

“[Eve is at her happiest] amongst human beings, people like her, and she’s remembering what the world has to offer, what the normal world has to offer. And then Villanelle is in the place where she feels happiest, which is blood-soaked, steeped in killing.”

she goes on to describe Eve’s reaction to Villanelle’s death as a feeling of triumph, choosing life, and rebirth.

So to sum it up, a woman who believed herself to be straight was lured away from her husband and normal life by a murderous lesbian. The “straight” woman finally got away from the lesbian and got a new normal male partner. The lesbian lured her away again, and they had a romantic relationship for about six hours before the lesbian was shot to death. The “straight” woman felt triumphant rebirth, because she realised that she wanted a normal life all along. Plus, the lesbian has constantly questioned whether she was born broken or could change, and is ultimately is told she was born broken.

Is anybody else kind of annoyed by this??

The last thing I want to talk about is Pam, who is introduced this season as a foil to Villanelle. She’s a new assassin who is still morally good, feeling remorse for her kills and getting a nice boyfriend — very unlike Villanelle. Konstantin considers her a fresh start or do-over after Villanelle. At the end, she gets to walk away from the 12 and chooses good over evil, presumably reuniting with her boyfriend. But Villanelle, who has tried to leave the 12 over and over and kept getting pulled back in, and finally resolved to destroy them, gets killed without a happy ending. The good pure straight woman gets rewarded while the evil broken lesbian dies.

I hate to say this because it’s so corny, but Villanelle felt very important to me as representation. She’s so open and earnest about her love for women, which is something that I often find missing in fictional lesbians. Seeing such an iconic, funny, fashionable, evil character be openly a lesbian was incredible. I loved the show, though each season less than the one before, so I feel bad about complaining — but honestly it’s my gratitude towards this incredible representation that makes me annoyed with how it was handled by the final writer.

[cissyenthusiast010155]

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Series

Usual Terms Ch 1: Back in Town and Reunited

Ch 2: Under the Sheets*

One Shots

Carolyn Martens Appearance Appreciation

Somnophilia with Carolyn Martens*

Oh and I take Requests, so hit me up with your ideas 😉 Requests & Prompt-List