#kik interactive

[just-your-average-cat]

why do you as a man in your 30s have a snapchat

[thesiblingsoftheblackandwhite]

{The Wright household is quiet, much like a library. Edwin Wright ran his house like a tight ship, and everything was spotless, sterile, fresh. The only obstruction to this was Katherine, whose room was full of colorful tapestries and posters and *very* loud.}

{Currently, Kik was listening to music in their room-- something rock with drums and a good bass line-- sitting at their desk and copying a manuscript into a journal for their father: The Black Book, the same book they had used to summon their Lords.}

((if u would like to interact!!))

Nibbly is the only one walking by the Wright house, very cautiously without aid from his brothers or tools, when he senses the Black Book’s presence. He glances around, though finds himself far enough from Miss Retro’s to where the call couldn’t be coming from there. He finally locates the house where the Book is and decides that he has nothing better to do. With that in mind, he walks around the property to find ways inside.

[sun-gut]

Rambling thoughts about the state of the vore community.

I'm quite frustrated with it in how it perpetuates minor-adult interactions, even if the interactions are trusted to be entirely nonsexual by both parties. Even if things are kept "SFW."

Before anything else, since I very likely have any people who disagree already blocked - if you want to have a good faith discussion about this, I will turn anons on. The catch being I will only respond if you have your username in the anon. If you are only here to invalidate my experiences or to flame me for being concerned about how there's groomers within this community who are taking advantage of how easily they can talk to children under the guise of the interaction being 'nonsexual,' then we have nothing to entertain and you will be ignored.

So, when I was quite young- around 14 or 15, I was very active in the vore community. I started reaching out to people, mainly adults, to talk about it with since I felt incredibly isolated with enjoying it nonsexually. The first person I knew through this, let's call him V, seemed to have understood that my interest in this is nonsexual, and responded in same. He knew how old I was. I knew he was in his mid to late twenties/early thirties. We'll get back to him later.

Around this same time(~15 y/o), I started a Kik group for nonsexual vore that allowed both minors and adults alike. It soon was filled with many people, and in that time I'd have made relationships with people who I also thought enjoyed it in the same way I had.

Until they showed otherwise, either directly to me or indirectly through sexually exploiting other minors in the chat. This carried over into a Discord server I made for the same thing- these people would seek out the kids in the chat and DM them. Seeing if they could find any children who were exploring their sexuality through vore, and then engage with them on that level. Even if they initially claim that they liked vore nonsexually. This happened to me too. Adults who targeted me because they liked my art, and would slowly pressure me to engage with them sexually or make sexual content for them. Even if there were never any genitals, they still found sexual pleasure in a child drawing fetish content for them.

This also happened to someone else I knew ("B", 15 y/o), who was in the Discord chat, but felt like she couldn't tell anyone because a person ("F", 18-20 y/o) established himself as a "safe" person in the community, both here and on Tumblr. Behind the scenes, even if he was only talking about vore nonsexually in the chat, F was sending B gore porn and pressuring her to engage with him.

V was like that. When I met one of his friends when I turned to an adult, I learned through them that he saw vore as a sexual fetish the entire time. He was secretly mining vore content out of a sex-repulsed ace child, telling me that it wasn't at all sexual. That he was like me. That I could trust him. How the fuck do you weed someone out of a community like that? How are you able to trust that the adult or child you're talking to about kinks isn't doing it for their sexual pleasure?

On top of that (when I was still a minor), another popular user who used to frequent Tumblr (bioluminescent-bat/nickname "Redla"), along with a Tumblr user named Glowinside, had a "SFW" Discord where Bat let in a child who was into unbirthing and openly talked about it. When I had brought up this as being an issue, I was entirely ignored. I left very soon after. These types of "SFW" servers are not uncommon to come across.

If you're an adult engaging with a child like this, and it turns out the child liked it sexually the entire time, that's you engaging in pedophilia. And if you're a child talking to an adult like this, and it turns out they liked it sexually too, you've just been sexually exploited. It's so, so fucking easy for people to lie about their intentions, and no matter how much you try to isolate yourself from the "dirty fetishists," these people follow. They do not magically disappear when they're deliberately looking for spaces to groom or sexually exploit. They seek you out because they don't fucking care if you like it nonsexually, they're trying to find minors who they can bend to their will. We have seen this happen, time and time again, with "safe" adults in the community. People who especially like to dictate themselves as being a child-friendly vore kinkster, and that any child can talk to them about vore.

On top of that, you wouldn't find this to be acceptable in other fetish communities, right? There's people who are nonsexually into BDSM. Or feet, gas, inflation, bodily fluids, diapers, etc. Would it be appropriate for adults to talk to children about their nonsexual kinks around that? Even if these are things that show up in kids' TV shows?

This is why I have so much concern for the vore community. Because I see children and adults alike interacting, and then see time and time again that someone gets groomed or sexually exploited. People who I considered friends exploited me, and people I knew were abused in the same way, as children. Their spaces should be kept entirely separate, and I'm extremely suspicious of anyone who disagrees with this notion.

[justsurvival]

name. keva

pronouns. he/xe but lately i’ve been lovin the no pronouns game icl

preferred comms. discord + i need you to bump messages if i havent responded because i will forget and i admit that it is on me

name of muse. there’s like 99 of them if you count my canons and ocs and uh well. this is why i will directly call out which characters i am feeling the most in my pinned. kisses xoxo

experience in RP. let me take you back to 2011 if you will allow me ……. me and several of my irls were doing some silly roleplay thing in an imsg gc. moved on to kik. was on instagram for a while. twitter (but the tumblr kind) during the height of the pandemic. oc & shadowhunters tumblr blogs circa 2015-2018. groups on tumblr on/off from 2016. cycling through multis and single muses since about 2021. most recent non-multis i’ve had…. kim dokja (orv), the kaul siblings + anden (greenbone saga), caleb widogast (cr), nico di angelo (rrverse), a couple iterations of shion, an iteration of sylvain + some of their siblings, & a couple others that i’m forgetting. generally i’ve always been most comfortable writing ocs & canons from niche media/media with a smaller rpc.

best experiences. 2020-2021 was terrible for a number of reasons but it was Fun sometimes. met a few friends i still talk to and are very dear to me. i am definitely happier now(?) because i am more comfortable curating my own space and setting boundaries even if i lack the deeper dynamics i had back then.

pet peeves / dealbreakers. i do not care if people “use me” for a certain canon or gender presentation of character as long as they respect and understand the character and the way i write them. i do not care for mindless performative behavior. i do not care for vagues. i do not care for facechasing or forceshipping. if i am uncomfortable i will take it into my own hands and soft/hard block. i do care that my boundaries are respected and that you care for my character past their face / a ship / etc. i do care that my characters of color are not ignored. i do care that my transgender characters are not ignored. yes this is bare minimum.

muse preference (angst, fluff + smut). generally i’m best with angst. my fluff needs to be flavored as hurt/comfort or have some sort of direction or i get bored/disinterested. i usually need some sort of direction for most threads as i’m not great with purely introspection/philosophizing without some plot movement or action. i actually think i’m pretty good with action scenes (as in fighting/sparring/etc). i’m ok with writing smut! you are welcome to approach me for it but i do prefer to have an established rel prior to exploring it.

plots or memes. both!! memes are good for jumping off/starting interactions/testing the waters but i do need some substance with it so i prefer that if you send a meme, to please message me afterwards if you’d like to expand. i lose interest on just back and forth memes without a plot.

are you like your muse. a few but not many. i put bits and pieces of myself in my muses. i don’t think any of my muses are a whole lot like me — canon and oc included.

tagged by. @ninkaku (ty!!)

tagging. you my friend who is reading this :)

[starlighthome74]

(As soon as that thing is gone, Edwin notices the Box. He's more than a little angry-- specifically because he feels Kik has made it clear that they are a traitor-- but is still bewitched with the idea of power. He can still use this.)

{Kik is bewildered by everything that has just happened. They sink to the floor, sitting and just trying to process.... that. They wonder, vaguely, about how being a devotee works. They should look into that, especially since they intend to honor the deal. Tinky, and the irony is not lost on them, is their freedom.)

{Kik had been sent specifically to try and find the Bastard's Box, and thus far they weren't having any luck. The teen had searched in Thrift Stores, Antique stores, gift shops-- anywhere they could imagine the trickster T'noy Karaxis would place a trap. Nothing.

They weren't even sure what their dad wanted it for, honestly. He was researching the Lords in Black, but what did the Box have to do with it? They sigh, looking over the shelves of the most recent antique store they were surveying in Hachetfield, bored out of their mind.}

[A small feeling, not unlike a nudge in the back of their mind, pulls their attention to a random shelf filled with a plethora of useless antique knick-knacks. In the back, hidden behind a row of random objects, is something brilliantly golden yellow. A cube. It somehow fits in, and yet looks strikingly out of place among everything that surrounds it. Somehow they know this is what they were searching for.]

[dumb-doll-lips]

Do you still use kik? It’s been a long time since we chatted.

Nope I don’t. Early on in living on my alone again someone I met locally and i talked on there some since I was still being a little paranoid about being on my parents phone plan, have stopped caring as much. And he got like such pushy and frustrating to interact w at all. And I’m bad at blocking so just ignored the app entirely as of then.

And like not really looking to go back to it. Lately I’ve started thinking more about like chatting w more people from here. And it’ll prolly stay on here. But I’m trying to figure out a way to go into that where I don’t end up super overwhelmed. It doesn’t take a lot for that.

[lookingfortherightmistress]

Sissies - Stay Safe Out There!

Oh gosh - interacting with mistresses is so dangerous! I am fortunate, so far, to have avoided any issues, but I just want to warn Sissies to stay safe!

Here are some of my red flags:

1. RED FLAG - If they use Kik & Google Hangouts -> DO NOT USE

Neither of these chat methods have any sort of verification. They could be anyone. THEY COULD BE MEMBERS OF FOREIGN HACKING CONSORTIUMS!!

Kik is a notorious cesspool of predators and Child Sexual Abuse Material (CSAM). DO NOT USE.

2. RED FLAG - They want your picture

They can use a reverse facial-lookup software to find you and blackmail you. Do not send your picture. This is not safe!

3. RED FLAG - They ask you to chat via a text message / or they want to talk to you on the phone.

They can use a reverse phone # lookup your phone number to find you to blackmail you. Double-red flag if they say "Chat only".

4. RED FLAG - They want you to send them money via Bitcoin

Where is that money going? You have NO IDEA. This is almost certainly a criminal organization or state-sponsored hacking team.

5. RED FLAG - They are too eager

Do they text you all the time? Are they constantly asking "why are you not texting back?" Are they impatient with your responses?

I know, sissies, that it's flattering to think that a Mistress really thinks you could be the perfectly little subby for her. But seriously? Think practically. Subs to mistresses are like 100 to 1. Maybe 1000 or 10,000 to 1. Real Mistresses are not going to be so eager.

6. RED FLAG - They have no original material in their Tumblr

Real mistresses will have real, original pictures. Like pictures of their dungeon, sissies, etc. (see #8 below)

7. RED FLAG - Their Tumblr is recent and shallow

Are they recently on Tumblr? Do they only have re-blogs and maybe some text items? Big red flag!

8. RED FLAG - They send you pictures for someone else

If they send you a picture, or if they have posted a picture which they claim to be a picture of themselves or original content, do a facial recognition search and an image search. If it's not them then STAY AWAY.

9. RED FLAG - They are threatening, trying to create urgency, or giving you ultimatums

Do they threaten you when you don't respond? Do they threaten to leave you? Do they give you sales tricks like 'do this or you'll miss this opportunity forever' ?

This is a triple-quadruple red flag if you have just been contacted by the Mistress. If she/he is saying these sorts of things within the first few days of getting in contact - RUN AWAY!

- - - - - -

Yes, we all want to be owned by a mistress or master. Yes we are subs seeking a loving, stern, demanding dominant.

But do you want to be a sub to a real, actual dom? Or do you want to be a sub to some sort of faceless criminal syndicate who only exists to scam you out of all your money and perhaps to ruin your life in the process?

Personally, if I've decided to ruin my life, I'll go to the local bar and get myself fucked over (financially and otherwise) by the first asshole shit-head I can find. At least it will be someone I know! And at least it will be an actual person - who probably needs the money - and not providing funding for a truly evil organization which is buying arms for terrorists, human trafficking, or state-sponsored terrorism.

Sissies BE SAFE.

[jkgnggj]

Sorry I get lazy with cropping but anywaysss

I think Abt it a lot too but tbh I like Tori angst so I always thought if Touma was there then he'd either take tori's place and Tori would tag along just to make sure Touma kept his mouth shut and didn't screw things up and he'd feel bad he wasn't of more use. Orrrr he'd stay pretending to be saiki but whenever saikis friends got suspicious or things went haywire and out of his control bc Tori can't think too fast on his feet Touma would come up with an easy plan to help keep things back on track. And Tori could feel useless bc of this since even tho he's supposed to have a big role he still ends up fucking it up and needs his mess cleaned by Touma who doesn't even have powers. Orrr if u don't want angst then it could've been a wonderful opportunity for Touma and Tori to get to know each other better and talk more to each other (as much as Tori can to stay in character anyways). Like they could've bonded and we could've had them being an awesome duo but we were robbed of Touma friendships <//3 but maybe I just like seeing it those ways cuz they're my faves and I'm a lil biased idk

When there's a really nice group picture that doesn't include Akechi...

[strawbbfluff]

Hi. I don’t know what to title this. But I think I kind of just wanted to make a post to warn??? Inform??? People, especially minors, about what this community and lowkey just individuals in general can be like and about how it’s affected me.

For those of you who are newer or just didn’t know, I made my blog and “officially” joined this community when I had turned 17. I had a previous background of being on kik where I had met people similar to me and just made me feel better about the way I was. Do I think 17 is too young to be on this site? Absolutely not. Do I think that there are certain precautions people, especially minors, should take? Absolutely I do.

I had left kik because it was becoming very draining for me. Those of you who have ever had kik and interacted with knismos probably know what I mean. I absolutely wasn’t practicing the safe behavior that I should have been, and I let myself be taken advantage of time and time again at the mere ages of 15-16. I knew better. But manipulation and abuse are things young people are especially susceptible to, especially a kid who wasn’t really receiving a healthy amount of attention at home.

So then I turned 17 and moved to tumblr. I just liked it. I made my cute little blog and was eager to make better friends who would treat me with dignity and respect. This was when tumblr group chats were still a thing, and so I joined a pretty popular tickling group chat. At the time all ages were allowed. And I was happy for a while, I made friends and became especially good friends with the owner of the group chat. At the time, he was 20.

I became infatuated with him. It wasn’t healthy by any means, and it was gross. However, I don’t believe that it was my fault anymore. He was absolutely flirting with me, rationing his attention in a way that left me desperately craving more, even sending me gifts from time to time. I told him everything, he knew everything that made me tick and how to draw me in slowly but surely.

Here’s the thing. He had a girlfriend. I did not know this. I knew he had been flirting with another girl, sure, but he was so off and on with her that I really didn’t know what to believe. And so he starts getting more public in his flirtations with me; reblogging my posts, tagging me in gifs, mentioning me in various posts. His girlfriend or her friends must have found out somehow, because on my 18th birthday I’m getting flamed through asks and getting sent death threats on how I’m disgusting and I’m a home-wrecker and that I should really just go. How confusing do you think that is for a young girl?

I confronted him about it. I was sick of putting up with and cleaning up after his messes. He tells me he’s sorry, that I don’t deserve it, that he’s going to fix it and that I didn’t do anything wrong. I know I didn’t. He’s been in the wrong all along. He preyed on me.

I was coerced into sending him photos. Videos. I was molded into this mess that couldn’t function normally without his approval. I was disgusted by myself and I didn’t know how to make things better. Eventually I cut him out of my life.

I think it’s important to add to this that I have never known a love that wasn’t abusive. I’m not saying this to make it better because it doesn’t. But I know how many young girls out there who are in the exact same situation I was. Please, please protect yourself. The idea of an older person making you feel good about yourself might seem appealing but I’m begging you. Don’t give into that. You will find other outlets that are healthy and right. You don’t have to fall into that cycle of abuse. And just know if you have/are going through that, it is not your fault. People that age know better. It doesn’t matter what excuse they give.

It’s worth saying that I’ve been through a couple more abusive relationships/friendships after that. This one person I was friends with, around two years ago, happened to be my age and I was eager to be ready to engage in friendships again. He ended up being the most emotionally abusive person I have ever had the displeasure of meeting. You get love bombed the first few months and then it gets turned into an endless cycle of torment.

My body wasn’t enough for him. He wanted more than my presence as a friend and so I had to change for him. Of course he would never outright say it, but being gently pressured over and over again to eat more, gain more weight, be less excited when I’m talking about things, only be happy when he’s the one giving me attention and following his rules. It was hell and I don’t know why I put up with it for so long.

I eventually cut him off too. I was an adult at this point and so was he but really abuse can happen at any age. I was definitely more susceptible to it considering how I was treated when I was 17, a child, but my point remains the same. I can’t tell you what to do. But all I ask is that you take the precautions to preserve your youth. Don’t make “friends” with adults in a community like this. Don’t let your life force get drained away by people who want to morph you into something you’re not. Be. Careful.

This was mostly just me having a therapeutic moment, but if you read this far, I hope it can help you in some way, too. And if you can relate to anything I said, I’m sorry. You deserve better than what you got and I only wish the best in the future for you. I love you. There are people out there who will treat you in a healthy way and there is so much more to life than the internet.

I guess it’s also reasonable for me to give props to people who have really changed my life for the better and that I’m super grateful for.

@still-not-rly-sure I love you and you’re a great friend, even if I suck at checking tumblr dms

@b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b I miss you and I’ve been a shitty friend recently when it comes to discord messages but you’re my first friend and I’ll always be grateful for you

And a suuuuper big thank you to my literal bestest friend right now @siastema-switch 🩷🩷 I love you so so much and I can’t even think of the words right now to describe how thankful I am for your friendship, your care, and your love. I’m very very excited to see you soon sweet girl

[findroleplay]

Hello everyone! 22 year old female looking to rp OC x CC characters. I like to use pictures, i’m fairly lit (but will match rp partner energy) and have never really roleplayed other than with three other people! I’m looking forward to branching out! I mainly use discord but would be open to other forms for messaging! If interest please interact and I will reach out!

I do:

•smut

•angst

•character death (once already talked about)

I do not do:

•incest

•r*pe

•characters cheating (i’m fragile i’m sorry)

•rp over text, snapchat or kik

Fandoms

•Call of Duty (heavy on this one)

• supernatural

• jujutsu kaisen

•criminal minds

I hope to get to talk with some of you soon!

.

[lemonjestercoffee]

i'm not convinced this isn't how Amino got blocked by Discord

anywho when i initially found Cloutchase i kinda picked Tumblr as my favorite cause yk- i live here- but when volume two came out and i got to see these two in action, they completely stole my heart. both their stories were a little to close to home for comfort and now i just wanna put them both in front of a fireplace with a blanket and hot cocoa cause god knows they both need it

Kik is also a favorite, and i wanted to put them in here, but here was just no place to put it with this joke so >:p

my trio of allergic to social interaction cringfail dumbass catboys

[applejuiceyjuice-art]

I was wondering how twitch n kik cloutchase would interact and it turned into this comic :D

[roleplayfinder]

Hey guys! I'm looking for mxm fandomless rps! (Don't worry I'm not replacing anyone.) I ask that you do be at least 18 and above before you decide to interact with me and any of my plot ideas. Even though one is fluffy, light and SFW, I am over 21 and I don't want to rp with minors!

Plot one is a little dark;‼️TW‼️ if you don't like kidnapping or yandere themes/forced relationships skip ahead!

My muse and your muse have been friends since middle school. They did everything together and I mean EVERYTHING. Played the same sports, shared the same friends and even went as far as making sure they had matching classes just to be with each other. They were really close and it has always remained that way. That was until my muse found a pretty lady he liked and she got in the way of our muses relationship with each other. After all these years, your muse has developed a massive crush on my muse and didn't want anyone else to take him away from him and my muse girlfriend had done just that. So, your muse takes it upon himself to kidnap my muse and keep him locked in your muse's home, away from everyone else. Of course, your muse would successfully kidnap my muse and keep him for himself, just not that easily. My muse isn't a small delicate man, but he isn't as tall and strong as your muse would be. My muse would eventually be put into submission my yours though! Once your muse gets mine where he wants him to be, my muse begins to see just how screwed up and love drunk your muse is for him and how he’d do anything to feel that love back, even if it's forced.

Now, plot two is very, very contrasting to plot one. This one may be a long shot as well. 🤷🏽

Our muses are in a nice healthy relationship though your muse has some past trauma (or maybe just bad mental health?) and is looking for a good way to try and cope with all the mental health issues they have. One day, while at a therapy session, your muse's therapist recommends trying age regression as a way to cope. Desperate to find any healthy way to escape the invasive thoughts in their head for a while, they go home to their partner (my muse) and brings up the idea. Willing to try and help your muse fight the battle with their trauma/mental health, my muse agrees to give it a try with yours and the two find that it's quite hard to grasp at first— as they both are still trying to figure everything out— but it's also something with positive results towards your muse. The two are pretty much living day to day life trying to get used to this new coping skills your muse wanted to try!

I am a semi lit writer, 1-3 paragraphs per reply and use discord or telegram to communicate. I am in the EST timezone and literally have nothing to do everything for the next few weeks so I'll be chronically active for a while! I RP on discord and I have just set up a new kik account to RP on as well, if any are interested, pm me here, add my discord (arynburrsir.) or note this post and I'll get you ya! I look forward to chatting with you all!

arynburrsir.

[dvilborn]

knowing your partner can potentially make writing together a lot easier !

– 𝐁𝐀𝐒𝐈𝐂𝐒.

♡ NAME: kita, and any variation of it you can make up.

♡ PRONOUNS: she/they

♡  SEXUALITY: dyke

♡  TAKEN OR SINGLE: single

– 𝐓𝐇𝐑𝐄𝐄 𝐅𝐀𝐂𝐓𝐒

♡ i have a tattoo for nearly every fandom i've rped in.

♡ i recently achieved my qualifying law degree and will hopefully be applying to legal jobs in september!!! just a couple more months baby

♡ in general, hazbin has been one of the chillest fandoms i've rped in since like. 2018. so thank u to my dash, yall are great.

– 𝐄𝐗𝐏𝐄𝐑𝐈𝐄𝐍𝐂𝐄.

♡   HOW LONG (MONTHS / YEARS?): jesus. i think i started in like. 2012/2013 on the forum rps of fanfic.net. so at least 10 years. mind you, i didn't start rping properly then until 2015 though.

♡   PLATFORMS YOU’VE USED: fanfic.net, a tvd fan forum i couldnt name, omegle, kik, so many apps, discord, tumblr.

♡   BEST EXPERIENCE: every other experience was horrific bar discord so note that down! but fr, tumblr has introduced me to so many people and let us build interactions and characters together that it has to be the best. this hellmouth let me build a 8 year friendship so it has that going for it.

– 𝐌𝐔𝐒𝐄 𝐏𝐑𝐄𝐅𝐄𝐑𝐄𝐍𝐂𝐄𝐒

♡   FEMALE OR MALE: women. women always. maybe it's the lesbian in me but i simply love my female characters. i do have a couple men adjacent muses though. love letting the girls go crazy and commit atrocities.

♡  FLUFF, ANGST OR SMUT: angst. fluff is good but angst is so easy to write. i love breaking my muses.

♡   PLOTS OR MEMES: i'm so bad at getting the plot ball rolling that i have to choose memes here. at least to start. when we have a base interaction then my brain can go brr and scream about dynamics and plots for days. i just need the kickstart.

♡   LONG OR SHORT REPLIES: somewhere in the middle. i love a long reply but sometimes it just means a lot of waffle if its just trying to make up space. short replies are hit and miss for me personally. i like to go for 2-3 paras personally.

♡   BEST TIME TO WRITE: lol imagine sitting down to actually write. usually in the evenings since my dash is dead until then bc timezones.

♡ ARE YOU LIKE YOUR MUSE(S): absolutely not. other than being gay. all of my muses are at least cooler than me and should be wanted by authorities in 20 countries.

tagged by . @spiderslvts (thank u bestie) tagging . @videoaux @kindofuneven @nosestealer @pridefell @wolfkcst @gluttonybound + anyone who wants to steal

[samson-the-whale]

Some times il look arowend me and see this beutiful flow of activity may it be whats going outsid, a conversaiton with frends, or an interacton online. It all mooves in this beutiful patern but then il realize how its flowing arowend me like a tight kurent im not outsied im looking out throigh a windo im not talking with my frends im lisaning to the conversaition im not having a fun interction online im waching others. And then after the r ealizaiton hists the fear and envy kik in of whanting to go outsied but scred to palout the erth or join the conversaition and risk wreking the mood or interact with some cool people online and risk embaresing myself and damesging that lovly shifting patern that flowes arowend ... so i dont know sguled i stay wair its safe on my litel rock in the seter of a shifting river of beutiful blus and cians or shuled i let myslef slip into the curents and let the flow cary me but at the posabel fear of dirtying the crisp blue waves... i dont know

[cupcraft]

I think why it's important to support victims too is the reality of being a victim is that not everyone is going to have collected the evidence that ppl always ask for (and even then people always say the evidence is fake/not good enough).

Like I wont get too personal on details bc im not comfortable with that, but I want to use myself as example for my point because I don't want to speak for other people's experiences.

I was a victim of emotional abuse from a friend group for years that i only very recently went no contact with 1 year ago just about (2 ppl in the group specifically the most). And I didn't collect screenshots. I didn't collect video/recording (and even if i planned to thats illegal in my state without their consent). And for a lot of that relationship though I suffered and was in a bad place I never really quite realized it was abuse until I got out and had someone some else give me a wakeup call. And I currently still have no plans to report it or go through legal trouble with it personally (for reasons not important to this post's point.

And why I say this is because when I share my story with people I'm close to all I have is my word. My word of the things they did to me. My word on how the abuse was subtle, how I knew from a tone of voice if I'd get in trouble with them. How they'd belittle me under the guise of jokes and "game lobby culture". Etc.

And so when you think all victims need to come with you with a mountain of evidence you're really saying you won't believe people at their word which is my reality and many other people's realities for any type of abuse and harm. At the end of the day you're going to trust me or not if you're someone I'm comfortable enough telling my story to. At the end of the day you're going to see the post and decide if I'm making shit up or not.

Of course I wish I had scs of things for many reasons, but even then a lot of my experiences were verbally related with no recording (some of which is subtle anyway ill get into that in a second) The angry comments on Instagram I got were quickly changed while I was too panicked to sc them at the time. A lot of my texts were over kik of which never saved the history.

Sometimes people's words are going to have to be enough for people because that's all you're going to have. Because when you say evidence is important you're really saying that I expect every person in a situation to: know they're a victim, and once knowing theyre a victim collect evidence (even if that evidence collection could harm the victim/or isnt possible) and to somehow make sure that evidence is enough for people, plus be able to have evidence for abuse that is publicly subtle.

And on another point this expectation doesn't really cover how abuse can sometimes be so fucking subtle. You know? How can you explain to people how a tone of voice is a part of the abuse? How can you explain something that could be a joke between friends wasnt a joke in that situation and a part of the torment? How canyou explain to someone when they say something normal its the smile that tells you its belittling/anger? Like even if I had a believable recording of the interaction for the smile example, like it may not be noticeable to you because thats the pt in why its so fucking subtle! you're just gonna have to trust ppl when they know something is sinister or not idk how to explain this. How do we collect evidence for the things that are so subtle and innocuous and meant to fly under the radar in public?

So when people tell you to check your victim blaming rhetoric this is part of the reason why.

You may reblog this btw and you free to rb with additions of your own too this is an important and open conversation. And before it's said this is not specifically about any one situation it's something I've wanted to write about for a while based on both fandom experiences, irl experiences, and just witnessing how abuse victims are treated in various situations. So it's not a vague.