#kdj and hsy are best friends

[pillow-boi]

Flower shop AU 🌸COMPLETE🌸

[astranauticus]

idk what is it about that one throwaway line from han sooyoung about her writing 10 chapters in one day that finally broke me but oh my fuckin god i love her so much

[hearthomelesbian]

im never not thinking abt the hsy -> yjh -> kdj (oblivious) transgender pipeline. extended this also looks like hsy -> yjh -> kdj (oblivious) -> jhy -> kdj (POINTEDLY IGNORING). btw

[keakiwis]

thank you yoo sangah for being the n1 girls girl because i know you’re the type of girl to help another girl out at the bar, also for sacrificing yourself for kim dokja’s mom, and for dealing with the stupid men at your work (also a respecter of decisions, seen in the epilogue, dokja gotta say thank you for not ratting him out)

thank you jung heewon for being one of kdj’s most dedicated members after hsy and yjh until the end because i know its def hard after dokja sacrifices himself every time but you still will do what he asks

thank you lee seolhwa for being the glorious healer that you are and keeping everyone alive, you deserved another regression version of you (yes i’m still on this)

thank you jang hayoung for being a dkos fanatic and my favorite second protagonist ily and i think it’d also be cool if we got another regression version of you or how yjh met you in other regressions

thank you lee jihye for being relatable, funny, and taking care of lee gilyoung and shin yoosung when kim dokja wasn’t there, also for being a good older sister to them

thank you uriel for being one of dokja’s biggest supporters, incarnating into the scenarios for him, going to the demon realm for him, and literally losing your internet privileges from metatron for him

thank you anna croft for being anna croft and for being one of kim dokja’s narrative victims. oh and thank you for being mischaracterized by the fandom and being misunderstood for your intentions but still continue to fight for what you thought was right

thank you biyoo for reincarnating into a dokkaebi, giving sub scenarios to kim dokja, and putting up with his bullshit, truly the most tired one of his shenanigans

thank you shin yoosung for saving kim dokja, being lee gilyoung’s friend, being underrated, for having to grow up faster to survive, and being willing to sacrifice yourself twice (once for feeling guilty and being willing to die for 41st sys, and the second being during the intersecting scene during the kaizenix arc where we see where lee gilyoung, lee jihye, and shin yoosung were teleported to)

thank you jophiel for sacrificing yourself to stay back in the 1863rd round, you were actually really cool with the few time you had

thank you gabriel for taking the blame for jophiel when you got back to eden and for taking care of uriel too

thank you lee sookyung for being kim dokja’s mother, for keeping a secret for your son, for allowing him to hate you despite knowing the truth, and having the best intentions for your son

thank you cho youngran for looking after lee sookyung and being dedicated to her

thank you persephone for being kim dokja’s other mom, for lending him aid whenever he asked for it (be thankful kdj), for showing actual care for him later on, for fighting for him during the ark

thank you selena kim for looking out for iris and being kind still after anna croft used you

thank you iris for surviving because even if you were one of kim dokja’s least favorite characters in twsa, you were still a child when the scenarios happened and you were betrayed by anna croft

thank you yoo mia for being silly, rude to kim dokja, and for offering to help secretive plotter

thank you min jiwon for being pretty and for being the king of beauty

thank you asuka ren for creating peace land, which lead to kyrgios existing, also for supporting kim dokja during the final scenario

thank you namgung minyoung, who is breaking the sky sword saint, for training punisher, jang hayoung, breaking the sky sword master, for helping kim dokja during the surya train, for being a half giant, and finally for being kyrgios’ ex girlfriend

thank you punisher for being punisher there’s nothing other than that, i love you queen

thank you tls123 for creating the star stream, killing billions, maybe even more than that, writing twsa for thirteen years straight, for doing it all to see kim dokja and to see him live again, for creating the altered 1863rd round (which is definitely a favorite for me)

and finally, thank you han sooyoung for everything because if i write down all the things i’m grateful that you did then it would take me ages, and thanks for being my favorite ever

[skylark325]

And and AND as a fellow ORV fan, I just wanted to share this fact that devasted me- Kim Dokja scarifies 49% of himself, Yoo Joonghyuk loses half of his memories (might have to dig deeper to explain this) and Han Sooyoung lost half of her soul that just go on to know Dokja's past and then sacrifies herself(and maybe the whole world) to save him. And YK the most interesting fact about all this is, Dokja turns out to be the most selfish one of all three. Yes he continues to sacrifice himself the entire time but at what cost? He hurts his friend everytime and consciously or sub consciously he ignores this fact and continue to do WHAT HE THINKS IS RIGHT. And the part where he keeps 51% of his memories to himself just prove this. I ended up ranting but yh just wanted to share this ツ (Nice to meet you!)

i get what you’re saying, it’s an interesting perspective. i can’t help but think though, there isn’t really a universal ‘right’ thing to do is there? there’s always going to be people who gain and people who lose. like the story mentioned it’s impossible to have a story without sacrifice. yeah kdj hurt kimcom by sacrificing himself but the fact of the matter is that the world would have come to a stop if not for it. i don’t know if he ignores the fact any more than he realises that the benefit of them being alive living their lives outweighed the loss of his presence.

even kimcom had accepted that it was something that had to be done. if not for kdj, who could’ve stepped up? the world would’ve never gone back to normal and the author told us from the beginning that kdj hated endings. he hates it when the story fell out of his grasp and he hated being alone. being selfish would’ve meant finding a way to stay with kimcom even if it meant staying in the library. all those times he sacrificed himself throughout the book were so that he could see an end where he’d be with his family but he had to give that up.

i think doing what you believe is right doesn’t necessarily coincide with what you want to do. being selfish would mean putting your own desires over that of others. but sometimes fate forces your hand and you have to work with what you have to the best of your ability. yes kimcom would’ve rather died than let go of dokja but what about the rest of the world? yes kimcom were hurt but they survived. dokja is by no means a hero but he weighed the pros and cons and decided that that was the best path he could take. when you think about it, hsy dooms millions of worlds just so that dokja made it past fifteen. so our measures on who is ‘more’ selfish can be subjective.

i remember recently reading a chapter where dokja said that on first glance you might think yjh is a realist because of how cold he is but the truth was that he was the most idealist person of them all. it was dokja’s realism that allowed kimcom’s idealism to exist. i’m not saying dokja hasn’t made some selfish choices but i don’t think becoming the oldest dream was one of them.

wow i typed a lot, i promise this isn’t an attack on your opinion! thank you for sharing and it was really nice to meet you too!

[chirpycloudyrobin]

this au has probably been done before but let me yap

au where kdj is somehow able to rewrite so much of reality at the cost of himself that he was able to literally write himself out of reality AND make sure everyone else has their happy endings.

he has pinpointed himself as the sole reason why everyone's lives has gone to shit and maybe this is one of the ways he thinks to repent. he's got all this godlike powers now. he won't exist after this but lmao this is a small price to pay for what everyone went through because of him, right ?

hsy never had to write WOS because there was no 15 year old boy who needed it to live. instead she was able to write the novels she wanted to write. she's a happy, successful writer. no one's lives rested in her hands.

his mother never got married to his father. she lives a free life. she was never a murderer. there are no regrets haunting her. she doesnt have a failure for a son.

yoo sangah works at a much better workplace where her coworkers actually respect her and she's able to live her best life. maybe she's backed by some of the most powerful people in the corporate world.

the WOS characters are instead rewritten into reality. there is no apocalypse. they're all living their best normal lives. yjh is a successful pro-gamer and he's not weighed down by failures of a thousand lifetimes. maybe bihyung is his overworked manager lmao. yma gets to grow up with her older brother and there's no need to worry if she'll see him again. sys grows up happy and loved without blood in her hands. her dog grows with her, unharmed. her parents adopted lee gilyoung. ljh goes to uni w nbr. maybe she's yjh's gaming protege. jhw works with uriel at their own law firm. lhs lives his life volunteering and he doesnt rigidly follow the soldier's manual anymore. lsh is one of the top doctors in the country.

hades and persephone run a successful chain of gourmet restaurants with branches all over the globe. abfd is han sooyoung's cousin who annoys her at any opportunity. he and knw are chuuni bros. maybe they cosplay together too lmao. sun wukong's either a famous martial artist or an actor, ill get back to u on that.

maybe they're all connected with eachother like the world's most unexpected friend group. maybe they're a bunch of social circles that happen to have a lot of mutual ties. one thing they all do have in common is that they have this distinctive feeling that something is missing. they all have their perfect little lives, but why does it feel like something is wrong ? why does looking at a subway make them feel so melancholic ?

idk how theyll end up realising WHO they're missing but it's going to destroy them fr 🥳

[sircarebearalot]

keep it simmering baby

up for adoption bc while i am def gonna write this baby some day, i'd LOVE too see others do thsi too and honstely if i post it here it's bc it's up for grabs

han sooyoung and kim dokja go to couples cooking bc they both can’t cook

(kdj, having been in the claws of poverty, never had the ingredients, energy and time, and now he just wanst a fool proof way to learn from scracth

hsy, having lived her youth in the lap of luxury, has always ordered takeout and is now emabrarred by her completely inability to contribute in the kitchen)

and they want to be a fucntionng adult for their partners, yoo 'tsundere star chef' joonghyuk and yoo 'perfect human being' sangah

they decide to sign up for a couples class bc that's less embarassing than just straight up admitting they don't know how and there aren't really classes for hopeless adults and also bc it's cheaper and they are both hopeless cheapskates

so yes, consider they are spending money and time together in a place where their partners aren't aware... does that look good?

lucky for them!! their partners are logical enough to know that kdj and hsy would never cheat on them (BC THEY ARE SUCH SIMPS) nevermind with eachother, unfortaunaltey, kdj and hsy's rep is bad enough for yoo joonghuk and yoo sangah to think that they have found themselves into trouble with .... wait for it.... THE LOCAL MAFIA!!!

so, see in this episode where kim dokja and best friend, han sooyoung go to a couple cooking class and (grudungly and painstakingly) pretend to be in love while all the attendeant, much older couples, fawn over them --- and one younger couple eye them mistruftully bc they think that kdj and hsy are cheating on therui couples bc (why the hell not) kim com are alll low level famous, (hsy is an author, kdj is an editor---whcih no one cares about bc he is also yjk's boo) and the young couple are very salty about it but OFC THEY WON'T POST ABOUT IT BC THAT'S AGAISNT THE SACRED RULE OF COUPLES COOKING BUT LOOK, LOOK??? HOW COULD KDJ RUTHLESSLY BREAK YJK'S HEART??? AND WHAT HAPPENED TO THE SIMPING FAITHFULNES OF HSY???

anyways, that is happening there in that studio, while on the other side of town, yoo joonghyuk and yoo sangah have enlisted kimcom to take down the fearsome mafia to save the two fool that aren't even in trouble.

naturally this epsiode will feature hilarious cutawar moments such as thsi one...

["Do you think Sangah is thinking of me right now?"

"I'm sure she is cutting down the city wondering where you are at," Kim Dokja replies drolly, as he poked mistrustfully at a perfectly fine tomato.

On the other side of town, Yoo Sangah smiles angelically at a mob boss, who was on his knees and holding his right pec protectively. "You will answer my questions, won't you? Where is Han Sooyoung and Kim Dokja?"

"Who?" the mob boss demands.

Yoo Sangah's smile tightens and she nods at Yoo Joonghyuk, who's eyes are gleaming with a slightly demonic light. He advances once again and the mob boss' pleas of ignorance are ignored.]

and ofc

["I don't even know if Joonghyuk will eat my food," Kim Dokja sulked, looking moodily after the instructer that had failed at hiding a grimace at Kim Dokja's liberal use of spice. "He only eats his own cooking anyways."

"Don't you want to feed those brats like the responsible ajjussi they think you are?"

"You have a point," he sighs. "I hope they have finishied their homework."

Not too far away, Lee Gilyoung and Shin Yoosung are arguining on how they will punish the criminals for taking Kim Dokja away (the adulst of kim com failed to remeber how the kids have access to the baby monitors), kimcom for leaving them out of the rescuing ('that jerkface is going to pay for keeping me from rescuing hyung!!"), and each other for allowing such a tragedy to take place. All while a fierce baby Biyoo chimes on with an ocassionaly 'Baat!']

so, stay tuned for the misadventures of silly gooses and silly billies alike!!

[claire-want-to-sleep-all-day]

loosely based on album of memories untold by aevum

this is some of my delusional orv thoughts about a what-if KDJ did read the novel, but when the scenarios started he doesn't stay at the same planetary system as YJH. KDJ tweaking his way to the final wall, become the most ancient dream and stay at the subway, trying to find YJH. did KDJ made companions at his planetary system? yes, and he really treasure them but his feeling toward YJH is strong enough he choose to stay at the subway, knowing the pain he has to go through. KDJ tells this to his closest companion/friend, YSA. they tried to stop, but his stubbornness won.

KDJ, with his status as the oldest dream, left an avatar contained most of his memories in this worldline to his companions. and walk into the eternity with his companions' blessings. they respected his choice, knowing how much KDJ love TWSA and his wish to repay the debt.

(side note: TWSA cast and HSY isn't there.

it's more like TWSA main cast didn't existed in KDJ's original worldline. HSY is dead for the sake of writing TWSA (read: plot), but we will talk about it later. incarnations originated from planetary system 8612 did not appeared in KDJ'S earth, but Namgung Minyoung, Kyrgios, others from different dimensions and magically, asuka ren are there.

JHW although doesn't become YJH's companion, but her existence as the mad butcher is enough for her to not existed in KDJ's original worldline.)

after spent who knows how long in the subway, watching all the worldlines (he felt bad about it), KDJ stumbled upon the first worldline that has YJH in it. but this YJH is weird. he is acting naive, clueless about scenarios. KDJ realized he's in the 0th turn. needless to say, KDJ went crazy and swear that he will do his best to give this YJH his happy ending. he succeeded. and then everything come crashing down.

YJH wishes to meet the star helping him numerous times. 4th wall choose that moment to whisper the solution.

YJH regress. KDJ breakdown.

times passed. at some point, KDJ uses his authority as the oldest dream to let a part of himself incarnate into planetary system 8612, watching himself living the same hell he once went through. his mom went to prison because of his other self. the living hell called school. his suicide attempt.

and he's looking at the young girl enter his room, holding his hand as if he were something precious. the dokkaebi king, the only one could see him, send him an ominous look.

KDJ now know why TWSA was written. he wailing, repeatedly asking the young girl despite she can't hear or see him.

4th wall and dokkaebi king stay silent, watching KDJ crying himself to sleep. after a long while, he finally accepted the truth, and begin watching both himself and HSY.

he adores the author, but SSSSS-grade Infinite Regressor made him cursed her a lot. she can do better, not this shit show of novel.

life's hard. KDJ watching other self, HSY, YJH as the same time. no, he shouldn't call the name YJH, he's now secretive plotter. there are numerous times he wanted to reach out to SP, told him to stop chasing, but thr worldline probability and 4th wall reject him. how HSY exhausted her fables to write TWSA, his other self living a hellish life, the guilt of being SP's sponsor is rubbing even more salt onto his already wide-open wound. KDJ doesn't remember how many times he had cried himself to dream, how many times he told them to stop, but failed miserably. but at least he is able to do sth for them. he's there to protecting KDJ and SP's dreamscape. he's there, ready to use his probability to ease KDJ and HSY's pain.

he abandoned his identity as 'reader' to become a 'guardian', a 'dreamer'. he's no longer 'kim dokja' but most ancient dream, the god.

everytime KDJ and SP has nightmare, OD would enter their dream and offer them comfort. he talks about TWSA with KDJ, he uses himself as a wall separate SP's subconscious from hauting memories. everytime HSY feels too much fatigue, he's there to take it away.

but times can change a person a lot. OD had already feel numbed after round 700s. but now? he become more and more unresponsive to things he used to feel worse about. he only feels exhausted, tired, dissociated. OD sometimes forgets his story and old identity as 'kim dokja', if not for 4th wall. sometimes he just wakes up and frightened, has a panic attack and after 4th wall's consolation, he goes back to dream. if the panic attack is too severe, he will try to commit suicide. lots of things has happened during thousands of years staying at the subway, and OD never wanted to talk about it.

time flies. OD begins to watching his old companions, YJH's companions, and YJH himself. he went nuts about YJH's abysmal diets and his fucked up life, basically cursed that piece of shit for daring to poisoned YJH's food, made him refused to eat other's food. OD swears he'll torture that worth-less-than-insect bastard and comminute that trash's soul to pieces and burn it using uriel's hell flame. 4th wall, watching his god spending 1h to cursing that man, enjoy the spectacle. it's been years since the last time OD engaged in something this much.

the scenario begin. OD's eyes tearing up for hearing his dear author final words, strengthen his resolve to help YJH and SP reach their happy ending. and doing his best to help KDJ reaching the 'ending' they longed for. OD usually stick to KDJ or YJH's side, but he also wanders around n'gai forest and HSY's side. 1863rd soon becomes his new stop. OD could only watches 1863!YJH sacrificing his everything to reach the eternal slumber.

if 4th wall said OD cried himself to dream, he'd deny that statement.

OD, despite cheering for KDJ, is envy of him. if 4th wall has to make a comparison, then it would compared them to SP's feeling toward YJH. he yearns to become YJH's companion, desperately so, but he could only stuck at the subway or as a phantom hovering around.

4th wall and OD continues watching the worldline in complete silence, their minds race with thousand thoughts.

[is it okay for you to stay here and abandoned secretive plotter?]

4th wall, surprisingly, was the first one to break the ice.

"you are the one insisted on me staying here though?"

he let out a scoff to 4th wall's hypocrite. but he's going to be the generous one here, so OD decided to answer.

"i don't know."

his voice cracked. OD wants to tell it's okay, but why he can't bring himself saying it? why is he feel suffocated, as if the idea of being okay is smothering him?

[headphonemouse]

Spoilers for Omniscient Reader's Viewpoint and The World After the Fall

He's like everyone's hyung. Jaehwan crawled as a sopping wet mess so everyone else could be slightly less damp on their own journey

I just finished The World After the Fall and i have. some thoughts. just a few.. I came from ORV first though so it's mostly in relation to ORV rather than discussion of TWATF on its own

At first I thought Jaehwan was really like Yoo Joonghyuk. I described him and his story like this

But over time and as I reached the last arc I realized that he has a lot in common with Kim Dokja and Han Sooyoung as well. Kim Dokja and Jaehwan's mutual love for webnovels stems from SingShong's love for webnovels, and I liked that because you can see from reading their works that those authors really, really love webnovels and philosophy. Jaehwan has a lot of facets to him, and that was a really important plot point, but a common complaint I saw in reviews of TWATF was that more or less the only fleshed out character was Jaehwan. I kinda agree. Jaehwan has a lot of depth and there's a ton of introspection and philosophy in the second half of the novel, so he's a very intriguing character. But no one else made that big of an impact. Then in ORV, it seems like SS were able to split up some of those facets that make an intriguing protagonist and gave those traits to YHK. Jaehwan is like a one-man cast.

Related to his similarities with YHK. Between him and KDJ, they are both self sacrificial but while KDJ sacrifices himself for his companions, Jaehwan sacrifices himself. for himself.. And then between him and HSY, they would both doom the world for the sake of one person. But HSY dooms worldlines for KDJ's sake. and Jaehwan destroys and then rewrites the Tree of Imagery into existence for his own sake. Jaehwan and YJH both have lonely backs, but the difference between them is that none of Jaehwan's friends were ever able to catch up to him. He faced his [end] alone. I don't think he was ever able to escape the loneliness that has plagued him since the beginning. He made friends and they supported him and they tried their best to fight with him, to follow his example, to honor him in his absence, but in the end they were too weak to stand at his side, unable to even follow, and after they died his memory in the world faded away.

It makes me sad. I really did like the other characters, how they looked at Jaehwan and saw hope. He became 'the world' to so many people. He was loved. He was admired. He was respected. His friends gave their hearts to him but it wasn't enough to ever reach him. We didn't get all that much time to focus on other characters. Still, I thought they were interesting.

I liked Runald the best, his outburst at Yoo Surha over the happiness evaluation surprised me. As the person who understood Jaehwan the most, I wonder how he felt enduring all those years. He's presented as a simple minded boy but he's got quite a lot he doesn't talk about. Wonder who he learned that from.

I can't imagine a good outcome for Jaehwan if he somehow reenters the Tree of Imagery. What would he do? Everyone but Sirwen is dead. Would he fight the System again? The System that he destroyed and then brought back? Why do all that? If anything, he should talk to Sirwen and finally tell her that he killed her dad. Her looking for information on Mulack was pretty important but then it was never mentioned at the end.

Jaehwan was a really interesting character and I liked how often he was allowed to cry, without realizing it, as if the emotions spilled out before he could recognize them. His conversations with his [clothes] were interesting, how cocky some of them were, or proud, or quiet, or scared. They were all Jaehwan. They were all human.

I'm running out of things to say, but to wrap up. I didn't really enjoy the story. It's not the kind of story that I'm usually into. But I wanted to see where Jaehwan would go. Just to see him reach his [end], I read the whole thing. It was extremely depressing. I don't regret reading it because I learned more about the writers through it. Sometimes while cheering for Jaehwan I felt like I really related to KDJ. And the end. That was it? It was an ending that stayed true to the themes of the rest of the story. That's all I can say.

[orviposition]

What trope would you put Joongdok in?

i honestly think that when it comes to joongdok it would be much easier if i answered with the tropes i WOULDNT put them in 😭😭

oh boy here i go! let's start with two of the most obvious first:

1. matching outfits with opposite color schemes, and 2. opposites (leo & aquarius) attract (<- attract as in lowkey bordering in codependency)

yin & yang - not only are joongdok aesthetically yin&yang but narratively too (i mentioned in a previous ask that they're sky & earth too)

star-crossed - (if you believe in orv's sad ending)

life (and death) companions - is probably a trope on its own considering the meaning of the title. not only does it mean (i ran the term through a thesaurus so yall don't have to 👍🏻👍🏻) "a romantic partner with whom one is exceptionally or uniquely compatible or has a special connection" but the synonyms are also of the romantic variety ranging from (but not limited to) life partner, best friend, soulmate, spouse, true love, one's promised, significant other, love of one's life, beloved, heart's desire etc (long story short, pretty sick tbh. no wonder kr dudebros threw a fit in singshong's comment section over it. i get it) and what makes it infinitely funnier is that it started as crack being treated seriously 😭😭😭😭

anyway, continuing where i left off, Soulmates - kdj is the reason yjh exists. yjh is the reason kdj lives. (hsy wrote both of them in a way that they became each other's salvation hence their position of reader-protagonist gets switched in the epilogue and both of them have admitted that reading about the other's story has saved their lives)

everyone ships them/everyone can see it - uriel, gabriel, ljh, hsy, jhw, lsh, anna croft, persephone/hades (the third eligible candidate to marry kdj was yjh and you will never be able to convince me otherwise. also if you have an answer other than yjh ur wrong), yma (if webtoon dares not to draw the "oppa looks happy when thinking about that ahjussi" you'll see me on the news) the wenny king. heck even gong pildu, upon some consideration and by method of elimination, deduced that theres no way kdj has enough rizz to pull neither ysa nor hsy therefore who was left to be the one who helped kdj birth his "child" (kidified sp) ??? yjh obv 😭😭 and why would he question the possibilities of mpreg when hmo is right there anyway. heck hmo even told kdj that he should try it.

when one is hurt/dying/dead, the other rages, panics, is extremely distressed - (maybe there's a shorter way to say this like "who did this to you" but joongdok have ascended past cheesy romances 😝) disaster of flood arc, aftermath of dark castle, the fight with surya, 1863, aftermath of sp's kidnapping etc

hates everyone but you - sure yjh doesnt hate All constellations but he for sure hates all demon kings. (mini fun fact about me, up until joongdok rebranded my brain, i didnt like this trope)

aloof x low self-esteem = both emotionally constipated 🙄🙄

derogatory term becomes a term of endearment - fool/sunfish (bastard)

bickering like a married couple - is this a trope? well it is now

denial of attraction/closeness - just two men who most definitely never lie when it comes to their feelings

identity theft - without malicious intent (i hope!! *stares at all the atrocities kdj has committed using yjh's name*)

masterchef x disaster in the kitchen - very, very, very simplified version of the trope. wouldnt call kdj a disaster but definitely a worse cook than yjh (subtrope would be [pro-gamer x game tester])

famous x fan - lol "famous"

annoying x annoyed - (kdj: breathes. yjh: ugh drop dead. kdj: drops dead. yjh: wait no-💢)

A thinks B will be happy without him / B doesn't know how (doesn't want) to live without A - 51kdj seeing 49kdj leave with yjh and the others, thinking that he and yjh will set on a journey together to find tls123 / museum fight

will sacrifice everyone/everything for the other - *cracks knuckles* when 41st sys tries to give yjh a 2nd chance to save himself and his old companions and all he had to do was say that kdj isn't his companion. when kdj admits that 1863rd hsy's plan to see the ending of the scenarios is smart and well-thought out but because that world doesn't need yjh he doesn't cooperate. (side story spoilers below, but when you think about it long enough the side story came to be because yjh spread orv to lhh's worldline. all the deaths happening because yjh needs to collect a fragment of kdj's soul from that world)

speaking of lhh, reincarnation - now hear me out. not your typical reincarnation but bcs we know that 49kdj's wish was to reincarnate into someone that doesn't have anything to do with kimcom -> subtrope: doesn't want to be found / is found

amnesia - 0 is also not your typical amnesiac

god x god's favorite

age gap - theyre both the same age and simultaneously have age gap(s) make of that what you will

important symbol - (object) pocket watch

glucose guardian - listen!! listen!! sp/kdj and 0/51 exist okay

harem - sorry i couldnt help it

[mhaynoot]

It can be argued that while Yoo Joonghyuk represents surviving under the cruel eye of an audience and Kim Namwoon the choice to hide under a delusion in order to survive an abusive situation, Lee Jihye could represent the guilt of living on through the sacrifice of another. As for Lee Hyunsung, he may represent may represent the difficulty of leaving the world that you’ve managed to comfortably craft for yourself in order to live in the cruel reality, as evident in the Master of Steel arc. We could extend this even further to Yoosung, who as a child has to live knowing there’s blood on her hands and believing herself to be bad, and to Uriel in that the act of observing another’s story does not necessarily denote you as cruel, and in fact can be a sign of your empathy as well.

In short, tls123 may have crafted key characters in the world of Three Ways to Survive the Apocalypse to represent specific facets of Kim Dokja as an individual, thus strengthening his ability to attach himself to the story even further and allows the author to construct the messages she intended to convey to her reader as best she could. In this essay I will

a-anon? you could've at least asked me on a date first before proposing

if this is a seduction technique you're winning because im demi but if you keep talking about your essay, I'll fucking kneel on the ground for you anon alskdkd

okay youre so right though

hsy wrote wos so that kdj could survive, she embodied each character with the intent to help kdj live.

yoo joonghyuk was his ideal, his brother, his father, his oldest friend. kdj wanted to become him, wanted to continue living, to surviving just like him.

okay, essentially, another lense you can consider in this point is how all the other original wos characters and their relationship with yjh is also pivotal in constructing hsy's message and intent so that kdj can survive. for example, there's already so many jokes about kim namwoon being hsy insert of kdj and thats why kdj hated knw so much but its a perfectly good point. knw was a delusional chuuni who distorted the world and socially acceptable morals so much into his own ideals to simply survive. but he was a kid, a teenager. he lived an okay life but was thrust into hell. and yoo joonghyuk always picked him up, always picked him and saved him and took him under his wings. even when he became mad when using the power of abyssal black flame dragon, yjh always picked him up. kdj seeing someone so close to him hated knw and yet was extremely jealous and longing for that level of reassurance. even if he was useful, kdj couldn't understand why this chuuni delulu was always picked by yjh but saw that his idol did. and kdj was saved knowing that if someone as annoying as knw could be useful, he could be too.

likewise, lee jihye represents surviving at the cost of someone else's sacrifice but also another representative of kdj's longing for a mentor figure. she and knw who yjh always picked and, while in the later regressions he used them, in the beginning he still looked after them, raised them through the hell of scenarios. these early regression chapters would have also been released during kdj's high school, where under the reign of his bullies and right after his attempt, kdj probably read this and saw himself in knw and ljy's place, being cared for by yjh.

everything you said about lee hyunsung is perfect but another aspect you can consider is that while he was comfortable in his life as a soldier, lhs also kinda hated it i think? i always thought he didnt like it and in my interpretation he thought following orders and being part of the military was all he could be and restricted himself to that label because going beyond that was confusing and scary ordeal. ahem, parallels to kdj who restricted himself to the label of murderer's child and the other labels he attached to himself later on which always made him into a villain of his own inner narration. additionally, kdj's time in the military was also terribly unlucky, horrible and he despised it. maybe reading about lhs's juxtaposing feelings of both comfort and dislike was another source of comfort for kdj while he was in the military.

lhs' relationship with yjh was probably closer to that of a comrade but still someone who was guided by yjh. he was yjh's and party's strongedt shield. he was also their strongest sword. lhs is a loyal, upright man but even he could kill for the sake of love.

ah mmm sys is a complicated matter while yes she is a blood stained child who was definitely a companion to yjh for some regressions, she was also the calamity for quite a few of them and someone who yjh killed as a child so that her future self didn't wreck the world. which is ... wow foreshadowing for kdj and od i guess. but she was also someone who loyally followed her captain, who spent thousands of years in the dark of the universe to bear him information, who gladly discarded herself for him. allsk more parallels wow.

you're definitely right about uriel being a representative of how not all constellations are cruel even in the og!wos. even if yjh still hated them, he could not hate uriel or kdj later on. otherwise his 999th turn, he would not have given his all to his companions which included her too. because even though she was a viewer of his story, she loved the story. while our perception of uriel is mostly based on how she is in the 1864th turn, from what we saw of 999th and 1863rd turn, we know of her passion, her grief, her destruction and her love. that for all her power, she still could not save the two she loved in those turns. she could not save her eden.

but yeah sorry that was a gigantic ramble i dont even know made any sense, anyways anon about that wedding-

[arbiterofsecrets]

Omniscient Reader's Viewpoint: JoongDok

Honkai Star Rail: RenHeng

a/n: this post WILL include SPOILERS from both fandoms, please DNI if you don't want to see shit

warning/s: ORV SPOILERS, HSR SPOILERS

"Tell me, you fool. If I continue to regress, will I ever get to meet you again?" — Yoo Joonghyuk

now we all know that kdj and yjh are 'companions'. kdj throughout his whole life, has continued to read the novel TWSA, it's an escape from reality. he found solace in TWSA and in it's protagonist. for over 3000 chapters in the 3,149 chapters of TWSA, he said and i quote, "I liked, hated, grumbled, and cheered Yoo Joonghyuk on. That's why I stuck with Yoo Joonghyuk for over 3,000 chapters."

meanwhile, yjh has regressed over 1000 more times just to see kdj again (see the quote above).

be it enemies, friends, companions, lovers, their stories are for and made for each other. hence, why they try their hardest to save each other.

literally damned fools IT HURTS.

"Imbibitor Lunae... When will our retribution come? How can our debt be repaid?" —Blade

before the sins of their past, dan heng and blade were companions as well. ultimately, they were close until something caused all the falling out.

during dan heng's imprisonment, he read books. do you see where i'm going with this?

him reading was also an escape from reality, much like kdj. it was his hobby, his only routine to keep him from thinking back to what happened and what could've been.

years has passed yet blade still wishes to bring doom to dan heng, "Of five people, three must pay a price. You, are one of them."

dan heng tries to convince blade that he is no longer the person blade seeks to kill. yet, blade still sees dan feng no matter what and will fulfill his revenge. since, who else can he blame it on?

another set of doomed enemies, companions, lovers, whatever they may be.

might i add, they are both considered to be black-white couples. they come in a pair, you van never separate them. these pictures made something snap inside of me and i needed to word vomit. companions that wish to either save or destroy each other, they somehow bring the best and worst in each other. all of that is the essence of doomed companions.

similar, if not the same, poses as seen in the pictures above. we have the readers on the same side and the person that wants to 'kill' them on the other same side; similar expressions, and last but definitely not least: heartbreaking stories.

if we add hsy + jing yuan to the mix, that's another set of depression.

[yellowocaballero]

for the fic title ask meme, what about the FKFSJDFKFKF (idk if i got the keyboard smash right? but it starts with F and is all caps). also i hope fire emblem is treating you well (aka helping you recover from orv brain crushing)

Always fascinated when ppl seem to remember what happened on the last episode of Meg??? I think people read my posts or something that's so fucked up.

Anyway, let's see what that fic is, I have no fucking clue. I don't know what any of these fics are at all. There's no coding and I've made no attempt to remember. Things have been so weird lately.

Oh, cool, it was the ACTUAL orv fic that I'm planning on posting once I finish ljaslkdf.

The plot of this one is very easy to describe. It's an AU where KDJ and HSY are childhood friends, who posted notebook sketches of YJH wearing Kingdom Hearts inspired sexy outfits with way too many belts on DeviantArt when they were 15.

It's also an AU where Kim Dokja's other favorite character in Ways of Survival is Han Sooyoung, the hip teenage sidekick and best friend and Mary Sue of Ways of Survival.

See? Simple.

[delusinalandpassionate]

It’s funny how orv and limbus company both have a trio consisted of a short blacked haired male, another black haired male, and short haired female: Yoo Joonghyuk, Kim Dokja, Han Sooyoung for Orv and Dongbaek, Yi Sang, and Dongrang for Limbus

Okay, yes, they look kinda similar, but if we think about their personalities and roles in plot they are extremely different, but you know which trio in Pmoon resembles yoohankims the best?

SPOILERS FOR LOBOTOMY CORPORATION

SPOILERS FOR ORV NOVEL

CARMEN AYIN AND ANGELA

CARMEN AYIN AND ANGELA IS THIS TRIO

I mean KDJ who loves this world and wants to save it so fucking much, who ready to kill himself thousands times rather than sacrifice anyone. The one whose fucking, well not death, but something almost like death, forces this novel to exist. He who became almost divine being observing this world

And HSY forcing hundreds of worlds to experience apocalypses, forcing her friends to suffer(and these people love KDJ so much that they not even angry, just like sephirahs). She who doesn't fully care about this world, making KDJ center of her motivation. She who ALSO divided herself in different versions, stealing memories from main one.

And YJH her creation, whom she cruelly doomed on 1865 loops of torture and didn't regret it. He who fights for his right to be a human. He who was kind in the beginning, but was crushed by weight of responsibility and time. He who was made specifically for KDJ(to love).

I mean, parallels are ridiculous, but at the same time, they are completely different with their narrative? Would I love Carmen as much as KDJ if I saw everything happen from her perspective? Would I dislike HSY if we had more YJH povs? I am already like YJH way more after seeing his similarities with Angela. What if Carmen loved Angela as mush as KDJ loved YJH? What if Angela loved her back?

I'm just feeling so insane. Sorry for using your ask to vent

[powerpolyculeshowdown]

was reading the backlog and got to the HSY slander and I figured I'd put my foot into the ring of why she deserves to be here.

In the entire novel, Kim Dokja only comments on finding three women attractive personally. One was Han Suyeung the second was a gernderbent YJH, the third a trans woman and KDJ took months to even comprehend that. (It was a thing about how a comment he posted in middle school may have affected the character's narrative and not wanting to think about the implications of that. She does assume he's transphobic and comments on how only Earth is like that though.)

He comments on how attractive plenty of men are. He comments how he can understand why guys find women in the cast attractive, one of the first things he comments about regarding Yoo Sangah in the entire novel is how he kinda understands why so many guys at the company they both work at ask want to ask her out, but he personally didn't have any thoughts on that.

But with who you're left with, YJH is expected. KDJ cannot shut up about how attractive that man is. Sex or gender will not change that. Jang Hayeung was introduced to the story because a middle school KDJ wanted the author of his favorite novel to add his OC who was precision designed as a girl middle school KDJ would crush on into the novel. Han Suyueng was different. The other two are characters written with KDJ's tastes in mind. Han Suyeung he simply finds attractive, which is something he just doesn't usually feel for women.

Off topic, but you asked about Yoo Sangah. Before the story, before reality became the novel KDJ was obsessed with, he and Yoo Sangah were coworkers. He thought she was cool, she thought he was cool. I don't think they would ever be able to even comprehend dating each other for anything but to stop guys from harassing Yoo Sangah.

You see, Yoo Sangah is Kim Dokja's platonic soulmate. They are best friends. Yoo Sanhah is a typical office drama heroine. Kim Dokja is a main character you'd see in a power fantasy. They rarely interacted at work but both had moments that made the other consider them inspirational. They both admire the other's outlook. The way they interact made a lot of people in story assume they were together, including quite a number of gods.

But as the story goes on, you end up with less and less of an idea that they would actually get together. It seems more like there's a love story between her and Han Suyeung in the background.

That's certainly the impression we get in the epilogue.

If you wanted my take, you have YooHanKim, and then Yoo Junghyuk and Han Sooyeung each have another wife. (YJH's is Lee Seolhwa, don't worry about her.) There is another guy, Bihyung, that by the end of the novel I could see KDJ also getting with but he's kinda... infeasible because of circumstances.

ok so what im getting from this is 5 of them.

i keep sayin!! the more the merrier!!!!!

[generallypredisposedtoviolence]

i just wanted to say that. i think your kdj comic broke something in me??? /pos as it reminded me a lot of my own experiences with dissociation/unreality and not being able to recognize myself and putting on layers upon layers of personas to the point of losing the person beneath and just. seeing how yjh and hsy pulled him out of it. reminded me a lot of how my best friend pulled me out of my own dissociative episodes. and that just. the realization that i dont have to do this alone anymore. kdj doesn't. and neither do i. that . just broke something and set it right at the same time. thank you so much for making this comic. and thank you so much for your art. its genuinely incredible and means so much to so many people. stay safe and stay hydrated!!! (sorry if this was a long read or too personal!)

hey! glad it helped dude i hope you feel better :)

everyone's a little broken but we've got other people to help fill in our cracks. glad you got some too

stay hydrated yourself!!!!