#kagepro: wannyanpuu refs

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Kagepro's Jin + his team / coworkers / friends

Interviewer: Say one thing to Sidu-san*! [*Sidu = current animator of Kagepro pvs/music videos]

Jin: Please try your best!

Interviewer: Say one thing to Wannyanpuu-san*! [*Wannyanpuu = a former animator of Kagepro pvs along with Sidu, though she follows them on Twitter as well]

Jin: Please give me a call……!

Interviewer: Say one thing to (Satou) Mahiro-san*! [*Kagepro manga's artist (NOT writer, that is Jin)]

Jin: I’ll send you this and that soon……

- 50 Questions with Jin / Shizen no Teki-P Interview from mid-2013 [Kagerou Project's creator]

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When I asked Jin-san about the truth [of the 'Kagerou Daze' song] (spoilers?) his answer was completely different from what I thought

Wannyanpuu (brief interview at end of anthology comic)

(INTERVIEWER): “What is your favorite song from Kagerou Project?”

(WANNYANPUU): “Kagerou Daze”!

As for why I like it, something about it just gives me a particularly special feeling inside. This song alone made me take into consideration a bunch of different things. I haven't had that sort of connection with any other song.

When I asked Jin-san ABOUT THE TRUTH (spoilers?) 

his answer was completely different from what I thought. 

I got double the enjoyment for the price of [one] song (lol). (*bolding / italics / caps mine for emphasis!)

... WANNYANPUU

KNEW / KNOWS THE TRUTH

OF THE “KAGEROU DAZE” SONG.

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This part of the story is also, written according to the feel of the song. Because in this song, Momo just said, "This is really embarrassing." , maybe everybody'll think that she's a lack of  self-consciousness girl, but she's attractive is NOT because of her own intention but it's because of her special power, so I made it as one of the problems she has to face. In this song, the guitar solo part gives you a feeling of "Will something good happen?" then in the end it hops into a happy end. But in the novel "the good thing happen" part the situation got better already. (laughs)

Kagerou Project producer Jin on song “Kisaragi Attention” & about character Momo Kisaragi’s concept from the Kagerou Daze Disintegration Book (published 2012) Bonus: “ Momo-chan is, designed to be a popular idol. From the start I’ve decided her power as “Eye Attention” therefore her character is based on expectation. But in real life, she’s not really popular. But because she said it’s disturbing to be an idol because you get lots of attention, so I guess it’ll be fine for her to not to be that popular in real life. (laughs) Her personality is EXACTLY like Shintaro. Because their siblings, so I made them really alike. ” - Jin, also on Momo’s concept (from the same publication) Extra Notes: - While Jin was the one who created Momo’s character / personality concept, an earlier official Kagepro artist, Wannyanpuu, was also the one who designed Momo’s overall outfit / look / character design. - Wannyanpuu drew Momo with a chain on her costume (Kisaragi Attention pv) because Sidu (another Kagepro artist and pv / music video animator) didn’t want to draw frills. - Wannyanpuu also fully animated the “Kisaragi Attention” pv, as well as the later “Otsukimi Recital” pv which also featured Momo.

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Kagerou Project References / Comparisons ~ black cat vs. WHITE CAT Kagerou [”Heat Haze”] Hibiya Amamiya vs. “Shiro” (“White”) Hiyori / “Shirori” + RED (Kagerou) vs. CYAN BLUE (Shirori) Wannyanpuu’s Kagerou Daze Fanmade PV (Video / Info) [*Wannyanpuu later became an official artist for many of the official Kagepro music videos!]

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When drawing a PV, Sidu will listen to the song first and get the general image. After having Jin explain the song to them, Sidu will draw the continuity and show it to Jin. If Jin approved of the continuity, Sidu will begin to add other details to make the full video.

old Kagepro trivias re: “Sidu has free reign on the pvs” fandom MISCONCEPTION:

After having Jin explain the song to them, Sidu will draw the continuity and show it to Jin. If Jin approved of the continuity, Sidu will begin to add other details to make the full video. or: Jin must approve of the continuity to integrate the materials into the (canon) / (main) series.

* this was likely also the case with earlier music videos artist, Wannyanpuu, who also collaborated with Sidu on “Konoha’s State of the World” (2012).

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more kagepro theories

Kagerou Project Questions -> Hibiya’s phone (or lack of) Hibiya: a boy from the countryside. (i.e. rural Japan) - not “used to” technology (as significantly described in MCA Route Ep 04). [essentially, he’s the equivalent of a 90s kid when it comes to technology.] - in most major / non-side Routes, doesn’t have a phone. (or so we think .....) if Hibiya wakes up at his house [with phone?] -> cue more along the lines of Wannyanpuu’s KageDaze inspired and/or a lead-in to simultaneous Kagerou Days x Konoha’s State of the World (?) (or, initial Music Route w/out “interferences” i.e. Ayano [?]) (regardless of “Kagerou”’s past “existence”/etc.)

(Ayano: does not even tell him about the / a phone i.e. when showing him visions in Manga Route 2. thanks Ayano) [Saeru: likely sees these visions. All of them. “haha”] if Hibiya wakes up at Hiyori’s place [without phone?] -> cue “common route” i.e. (most) later / major or similar Kagepro routes -> [Music Route w/interferences -> Manga+Manga Route 2? -> Novels ->? MCA] he gets “found” by Konoha (Konoha now visible/existing physically) -> he gets taken to / wakes up [again] in the hospital [with no phone.] -> [^ this in Novels route, MCA; not Manga Routes / Manga Route 2] everything else: happens

if Hibiya is shut out of his place (by his parents? by etc. ??) -> Hibiya goes into the city with Hiyori .... to buy a phone . (Hiyori: already has a phone in these / most Routes. Not ? completely / originally ? from countryside. *goes into the city more often than Hibiya, with relatives in city. [Kenjirou]) if Hibiya has to be forced out of his place to interact with / meet Hiyori to begin with -> ???????? if there’s that one random “Hibiya and Hiyori” being “childhood friends” (/somewhere/) (/even as a mini/side Route ala Route XX ?/)-> ???????! if Hibiya gets a phone that just so happens to have Ene in it (i.e. MX4D “Route”, he winds up in possession of Shintaro’s) -> ???????? if Hibiya gets the phone but dies at the end of the Route anyway -> ????? if Hibiya is yet again instead given a phone ..... -> ????? if Saeru / Clearing Eyes / ??!?! possesses Hibiya while Hibiya’s in possession of the / a phone -> ?!?!?!

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some Kagepro fan: “Hibiya and Hiyori were always age--??”

me, an intellectual who remembers every official Wannyanpuu’s KageDaze art and the fact that even the original “Kagerou Days” / “Kagerou Daze” song itself contained no age mentions even in Jin’s earliest form of Music Route:

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Kagerou Project Analysis: early Hibiya+Hiyori ; Wannyanpuu’s Kagerou Days / Daze Alt Deaths

[ Wannyanpuu’s early Hibiya & Hiyori: Possible Alternate Deaths ] [ analysis / theories continued from here ! ]

Alternate deaths found from Wannyanpuu’s older fanmade [pre-main series]  Kagerou Daze pv ..... ...... ..... (Including some even I never noticed until rewatching this music video for the nth time ... in the year 2k18) (possibly a few were later re-used in canon for other characters?) (possibly)

(also including more bonus crying Kagerou ! Hibiyas)

(warning: gore, blood, some are quite graphic implications gore-wise) (and also deaths wise ;;) (more warnings under the cut) (do not look if you are sensitive!) (basically: [almost] as many extreme deaths as you can think of ;;) (these happening to Hiyori especially but also implied Hibiya) (because timeloops.) (and Hibiya switching the timelines)

Death #1 - Normal Car, not even TRUCK Death #2 - Scissors ..... (was this re-used later for Shintaro?) Death #3 - I can’t tell exactly what this is but blood dripping off edges ...... [gore tw] Death #4 - Matches ..... (fire?!?) (possibly re-used for young Kido but ..... ) Death #5 - crushed by something heavy ? ..... [serious gore tw] Death #6 - rope [suicide tw] Death #7 - bottle [suicide tw] Death #8 - multiple extreme gunshots [HEAVY GORE TW] Death #9 - blood dripping down Hiyori’s side of face, her eyes still open / fuctioning ? [heavy gore tw] (she was struck by something in between?) Death #10 - buried ? [HEAVY GORE TW] [ or poles ] Death #11 - marks / wounds on neck ;; [heavy gore tw] (ok though this also appears during a truck scene so it may be the truck marks) (if you pause during an earlier scene, her first death - yeah) Death #12? - uh .... .... ... (HIBIYA NO) [POSSIBLE UNINTENDED VIOLENCE TW] [ ^ HEAVY GORE TW TOO ] (could also be remnants from truck but ..... ) (blood on his hands.) (Hibiya looking terrified too) Death #13? / clock - uh oh [ INSERT KAGEROU TRANSFORMATION INCOMING ? 3, 2, 1 ..... ] in between: the scene in full showing most of these and possibly other ( the others were still vague though so possibly it was more truck / etc. ) ( page jump / skip to the very end if you only want to see the last Hibiya(s) ;; ) ( and more crying Kagerou Hibiyas )

( ^ normal [black] car )

( ^ scissors ..... )

( ^ dripping blood )

( ^ matches [fire] ;; ;; ) ( HIYORI+HIBIYA N O DON’T YOU DARE )

[ the following deaths get PRETTY GOREY AND DARK SO ] [ PLEASE TAKE CAUTION ] [ tw for some: suicide (reminder though they’re trying to save each other) ] [ (from the loops yeah) (it appears to get really drastic .....) ]

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( ^ crushed ? ..... ) ( Hiyo ;; ) [ poles are still possible or truck but ]

( ^ Wannyanpuu THIS WAS NOT OK ) ( hopefully we NEVER get this in canon but uh yeah implications still there ) ( but yeah Shintaro’s & Ayano’s were ... bad enough ;; ;; )

( ^ ;; ;; ;; ;; ;; ) ( STOP. )

( ^ CHRIST ) (HIBIYA SAW THIS) (HIBIYA SAW ALL OF THESE) ( reused for Saeru ? ?? )

( ^ blood dripping down Hiyori’s face / eye ;; )

( ^ more like this .... )

( ^ more truck, or ..... )

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( ^ WANNYANPUU NO )

( possibly what leads to the .... )

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( ^ Kagerou Daze deaths in full ) ( ^ note: Kagerou is seen, but still seems to be mostly just standing there.) ( “ he was just standing there, as if mocking me ” - novels 1 Hibiya ) ( so it seems these deaths can happen without Kagerou actually doing things? ) ( including the canon Heat Haze ? )

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( ^ OH NO )

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( ^ NO WONDER HE WAS SUDDENLY CRYING AT END T B H ) ( HE JUST WANTED TO SAVE HIS OWN HIYORI )

... ok but

( ^ I still wonder if he somehow became corrupted along the way ..... )

(i’m sorry) (i’m not the one who created this series or pv ok)

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Kagerou Project Analysis: Hibiya (& Hiyori) Encountering Momo Kisaragi Before “the Daze”

[ How, When, Where, & Why do Hibiya (& Hiyori) encounter Momo before the Kagerou Daze song happens ? ] [ also: The Daze itself. ]

( continued from here ! )

Friendly reminder the official order of the Routes / timelines goes, like so:

Music Route -> Manga Route -> Novels Route [as of 2014] and/or MCA Route MCA: ‘closest to the latter’ (but now we may have more Routes coming so .....)

Music Route: (keeping in mind what’s been recapped so far from previous posts!) - Momo Kisaragi hasn’t even been created at the time Kagerou Days was. - Kagerou Days happens. - Hibiya wakes up inside the Daze. - “What time is it now?” - Repeat (two verses/choruses/loops) - Third loop: - “Ah!” “Yume [dream]”? - Repeat final time; Hibiya switches ? the timelines. - Momo Kisaragi does not yet exist in the real world (our world). - Momo Kisaragi is later created / designed by Wannyanpuu. - Wannyanpuu: possibly contributed to inspirations for the storyline (especially re: Hiyori Asahina’s design / concept.) - Wannyanpuu’s Hibiya: has phone. (phone: has time) - Jin’s Hibiya, still: “what time is it now?” [ all Routes after ] [ Hibiya: /no phone ( until possibly novel 8′s end ) ] [ Hiyori: /has phone ] [ Ayano: doesn’t even bother mentioning ‘the phone’ ]

Manga Route: - Shintaro & Momo encounter Hibiya & Hiyori very very early on. - The entire course of the Routes changes almost immediately. - Hibiya: “the boy who doesn’t have a wish” [to “save the girl” (yet)] - Saeru - Hibiya & Hiyori don’t know about “The Park”

- The Park: the initial spot where the Kagerou Daze first begins / traps them.

- Momo: tells them about “The Park”. (MOMO NO) (MOMO STOP) - Hibiya & Hiyori: encounter truck. - Hibiya & Hiyori: dies / encounters Daze? - Hibiya (& Hiyori, but not shown until later on): revives (with Snakes ? ?? ) - Saeru (Snake of Clearing Eyes) forms in Hibiya sometime before - Hibiya meets (Manga Route) Ayano. - Hibiya meets Ayano at “The Park”, while trying to remember what happened to him & Hiyori. - Hibiya can’t recall everything that happened to him. - Hibiya notably glances towards the swingset [prominent in Wannyanpuu’s Kagerou Days and indirectly seen in MCA.] [Hibiya & Hiyori often sit there having heart-to-hearts before the Daze happens.] - Ayano: tells Hibiya about Azami’s past. - Saeru: [ possibly: hearing all of this. ] - Hibiya later winds up in the care of Momo & Shintaro as they all try to search for Hiyori. - In between, them all encountering various members of the Dan, Konoha (Hibiya encounters Konoha), etc. [ will come back to Konoha later ] - Saeru: possessed Hibiya at some point before meeting Ayano. - everything else: happens - Hiyori: [seemingly] has Focusing Eyes. - Hiyori: hasn’t had an “Otsukimi Recital” type solo encounter with Momo. - Hiyori: will probably fail no matter what she does. - it can only be Hibiya [ ?? ?? ? ] - Hibiya: “i’m sorry” - to Hiyori - Hibiya: dead. (no thanks Saeru) - Konoha: also dead, trying to save Hibiya. (again no thanks Saeru) - Saeru: duped everyone into thinking Hibiya had Focusing Eyes. - (ok but what if ..... Saeru’s still duping everyone .....) - - - - HOW WOULD (COULD?) HIBIYA REVIVE WITHOUT THE SNAKE OF FOCUSING EYES ??? - IS IT (HIM REVIVING) JUST BECAUSE OF SAERU ??? - IS IT BECAUSE OF ANYTHING ELSE ????? ??? - HOW LONG WAS MANGA ROUTE SAERU THERE FOR ??? - SAERU: “FROM THE VERY BEGINNING” - DIRECT QUOTE FROM SAERU - - - IS IT POSSIBLE FOR TWO SAERUS TO BE POSSESSING HIBIYA AT ONCE ????? - - Manga Route’s New Form Saeru (literally the most recent chapter as of the initial writing of this post):  “ Hello  ! ”

Novels Route: - Momo Kisaragi exists design-wise and “in real life”-wise (our world), but ..... - Hibiya & Hiyori do not encounter her before The Daze. - Hibiya & Hiyori wake up inside The Daze. - Hibiya has various monologues while inside The Daze, Hiyori does too (to Hibiya). - some monologues may be happening in alternative timelines / spoken to a different character (Hibiya -> Ayano in the Daze from here appears in MCA 04) (still curious about another one exactly [I’ll get back to later]). - Hibiya escapes The Daze / revives. [w/Focusing Eyes] - Hibiya meets Momo. - Otsukimi Recital: later happens. - Hibiya drops Momo’s “oba-san” (auntie/old hag etc.) and “Aun” cheeky rudeness from him. - Hibiya -> Momo: “Momo”. (no honorifics.) [ Momo & Hibiya have become closer ! ? Congratulations, “Momo” & Hibiya-kun! ] [ .... at the very, very least, he’s a bit more polite now. ] (... there’s some other fun things in between Hibiya meeting Momo and that) (I’ll come back to those in a later mini analysis!) MCA Route: - starts off very similar to Novels Route re: Hibi+Hiyo’s weirder dynamic. - Kisaragi Attention (Episode 02) happens - Kisaragi Attention in Music Route: Momo meeting Mekakushi Trio + Mary only. - ‘Kisaragi Attention’ here: Momo meeting Hibiya. only - (Momo would later meet MekaTrio+Mary in Mekakushi Code ep 03 instead.) - Hibiya: still calling her oba-san - Momo: let this kind onee-san show you the way! [or: I’M NOT OLD] [ ^ this: happens only once in all forms of the canon iirc. ] - Hibiya: NO WAY OBA-SAN -- - Momo: attracts the crowds with her Eyes. - Momo & Hibiya: “shit” - Momo & Hibiya: RUNS [cue Kisaragi Attention playing] - Hibiya: gets overrun by crowds in between, escapes - Momo: doesn’t get any chance to tell Hibiya about “THE PARK”. (... would she have?) - Momo: doesn’t get to even meet Hiyori, only Hibiya. - Momo: doesn’t even make it to the Department store she wanted to go to. ( more on that recurring theme later too ) - Momo: SIGHS - everything else: happens - (including Otsukimi Recital towards end of anime) [ MCA 04 ] (compare: this dumb old amv I made once) [i’m sorry] ( because screencapping everything would take way too long, ok ;; ) ( but it has most Daze scenes in it while trying to line them up with Wannyanpuu’s version thematic wise ) - Hibiya & Hiyori: [ inside the Daze. waking up ] - Hibiya: /NO PHONE (IN ANY OF THEM) - Hiyori: /has phone - Hibiya: [ probably thinking it’s like a “dream” / “yume?” ] - Repeat four or so Daze loops, getting progressively worse each time. - Hiyori in between: saying things Hibiya can’t hear while smiling / crying - Hiyori: (”i’m sorry”?) (”I love you”?) - possible - Hibiya: [ final loop happens ] - Hibiya: SCREW YOU CAT “Serves you right !!” - (Cat in Novels timeline: Kano interference.) (Cat anywhere else: ???? ??) - (Kano interference: by means of Saeru forcing him.) - Hibiya: SWITCHES THE TIMELINES. - Hibiya: receives the Snake of Focusing Eyes from the Daze and revives. - everything else: happens [ considering new Routes incoming ] [ MCA: also Reset ? (maybe / likely ) ]

BONUS (from Kisaragi Attention, Ep 02:

( ^ listen. I am not the one writing this series. It’s doing it on its own.) ( Friendly reminder: Hibiya & Momo - closer in age than not ) ( ok but seriously it’s more like Hibiya: just entering junior high school as of Mekakucity Talkers; with conflicting age in canon [still closer to his birthday during loops [August 15th]; Hibiya’s birthday: November 4th]. Momo: just leaving/left junior high school as of MCA, but also with conflicting age. taking supplementary classes; hasn’t yet taken re-do exams. - She SHOULD be closer to ‘15′ by this point of the timeline. - her birthday is literally right before the Japanese school year begins. February 14th -> April [school year begins] -> August 15th [loops / timelines] -> March [school year ends] - MCA Kenjirou too (I realized): “if you [Momo] fail these [supplementary classes] you’ll go back to being a first year [in high school]!” - Kenjirou / as Saeru: manipulating the entire freaking city. INCLUDING MOMO’S SCHOOL. INCLUDING MOMO (?) - loops: happening (probably?: screwing up even more timing re: conflicting ages) - ... friendly reminder Hibiya has another birthday only a few months after escaping loops. then he’s taking junior high school entrance exams ?. ) - Momo: still has to wait until her next birthday (February 14th) to age another year regardless. - closer than not ? - look I’m just saying - - anyway look I seriously doubt Jin would intend for a serious relationship at all at this stage ok at most it’s friendship / fluff / developing - even the anthologies imply this with older!HibiMomo comics / manga - Wannyanpuu and Sidu (Kagepro’s official artists) have contributed to various official anthologies too - Jin certainly approves of the materials or they wouldn’t be published - literally ..... - my opinion aside, literally. - this is mainly for analysis ok. i am not writing this series.

Anyway all that aside: - MCA screencap above:

HIBIYA SWITCHED HANDS WITH MOMO TO RUN IN FRONT OF HER.

[ MANGA ROUTE QUICK RECAP: ] Hiyori to Momo: “i’ll walk in front” Momo to Hiyori: “wow” “it’s like you’re always protecting me .....”

“ There is no such thing as coincidence in this world, there is only Hitsuzen [the inevitable]. ” ( ^ oh hi CLAMP, Cardcaptor Sakura & Tsubasa’s Clow Reed & Yuuko Ichihara ) ( JIN, WANNYANPUU, SIDU, ETC. PLANNED ALL OF THIS. ) ( or at least most of this ) ( storyboarding wise ) ( where even is all of this going ?! )

[ ..... ok a short MCA summary follows ]

( ^ loop 1. NO PHONE. only clock [right; top] ) (still) (”what time is it now?” - KageDaze official song lyrics, Hibiya’s POV)

( ^ oh hi swings ) (looking very ominous with Daze colors imagery.) ( friendly reminder: even if the animation was weird in many ... many parts of MCA ) ( literally all of this is still storyboarded. )

( ^ waking up. loop 2 / in between loops)

( ^ NO PHONE [only clock] )

( ^ oh hi “The Park” Momo tells them about. ) [ she tells in Manga Route only that is ] ( looking ... even more extremely ominous ) ( Hibiya’s awareness ... growing ..... ) ( among other thematic parallels: sky, wires, birds, stop signs, blood, etc. ) ( adding poles, etc. ) ( birds / crows: also in Wannyanpuu’s music video [inside the clocks] )

( ^ [silently saying something] ) (^ “I’m sorry” / “I love you” ?) (note her tears.)

( ^ red red red sky ) ( ^ Hibiya waking up, frantically looking around [as if to check it was a dream])

( ^ RUNNING ) ( ^ NO PHONE [only clock] )

( [silently speaking] ) ( “ I’m sorry ” ? etc.) (tears flying.)

( ^ final loop ) ( ^ OH NO ) ( ^ waking up. )

( ^ Hibiya: “.......” )

( ^ clock ) ( but still not phone ) ( that he still wants in some Routes )

( ^ no phone ) ( Hibiya: closes door slowly. )

( ^ SWINGS / THE PARK ) ( shit )

( ^ TIMELINE SWITCH ) ( this time it’s me not you - Hibiya probably )

( ^ “SCREW YOU CAT!!!” ) I mean ( “Serves you right!” ) (lit: “look at your own failure / how much of a failure you are” “look at your pitiful self after failing so hard” etc. [to Cat]) alternatively: “take that!” “look at the state of things” etc. etc.

MCA Hibiya: dead MCA Hibiya: receives the Snake of Focusing Eyes and revives MCA everything else: happens Manga Route 2: happens New Form Saeru even after like 6+ YEARS OF THIS: happens

( JIN )

[ ... also: re Honorifics and progressions of ] ( basically it’s like : last names: can be more polite; first names without knowing: rude last or first names used intentionally rudely: rude last names with -san: very polite; formal; etc. first names with -san: more polite than not with -san etc. last names with -kun, -chan, etc.: a bit more informal, but still some politeness ? -san in general: polite, distance; -kun, -chan, etc: more friendly/informal -kun: often for boys (but can also be used for younger girls, such as underclassmen / etc.) -chan: often for girls (but can also be used for younger boys, kids, as a cutesy honorific; etc.) progression to first names, no honorifics: typically means - becoming closer; can be rude if not ) ( it’s kind of hard to explain um ..... ) ( if you’ve ever watched the Digimon Adventures series ? ) [ oh hi another of my main fandoms since long before Kagepro ] ( ... I don’t know how many of you have, but this is a very good example video ) ( if you watch it, note how they progress from last names -> first names ! ) (literally they go through like 5-10 honorifics changes) ( also: rudeness [in between] -> familiarity/closeness ) (note: Hibiya also calls Hiyori by her first name and first name only.) (initially: can be rude. Hibiya is often cheeky/rude. Hiyori even notes this in Manga Route - [he’s from the countryside so he doesn’t have / know manners] etc.) (after: _____ ? ?? ) ( also [Digimon spoilers below]: the canon pairing at the end of 02 [Sorato; Yamato x Sora] also becomes canon through honorifics changing and progression all throughout the first and second series. It was a real surprise to most of the Western / American fanbase at the time because literally all of this gets lost in translation [and very bad, fully Americanized dubs]. ) People there to this day still tend to be confused by it because of things consistently lost in translation and their lack of initial interactions otherwise. [ there are multiple honorifics issues within Kagepro in general too. ] [ literally there’s a reason why they’re used as plot points multiple times ] ( ..... don’t say I didn’t warn you. )