#(WANNYANPUU VERSE KONOHA)
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fuckyeahkagepro · 6 years ago
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RE: WANNYANPUU HIBI+HIYO DESIGNS
(OK TBH MOSTLY I’M JUST GLAD THAT IF HER HIYORI REALLY COULD HAVE HAD A 15-YEAR-OLD DESIGN ALREADY/SINCE 2011 ERA) (THAT MEANS MY 16-YEAR-OLD HIBIYAS REALLY WEREN’T THAT FAR OFF THANK)
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fuckyeahkagepro · 6 years ago
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some Kagepro fan: “Hibiya and Hiyori were always age--??”
me, an intellectual who remembers every official Wannyanpuu’s KageDaze art and the fact that even the original “Kagerou Days” / “Kagerou Daze” song itself contained no age mentions even in Jin’s earliest form of Music Route:
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fuckyeahkagepro · 7 years ago
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Wannyanpuus’ Fanmade Kagerou Daze/Days PV [+the original Miku version] [*non-canon, but likely could have inspired much of the Kagerou Project series] -> pre-series Miku!Ene (top) + (...??) + Headphone Actor & Ene dolls cameos (+ bonus short-haired pre-main series Hiyori Asahina design)
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fuckyeahkagepro · 6 years ago
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NO SERIOUSLY
DOES ANYONE ELSE REMEMBER WHEN (KANOKIDO) USED TO BE MORE CONSIDERED M/M BECAUSE NO ONE HAD AN IDEA OF KIDO’S GENDER WHICH WASN’T CANONICALLY CONFIRMED UNTIL 2012 OR SO AND MOMOMARY WAS THE SOLE F/F SHIP BECAUSE OTHER THAN HIYORI (WHO DIDN’T HAVE A CANON DESIGN AT THE TIME) (WE WERE STILL USING WANNYANPUU’S / DIDN’T KNOW HER AGE ETC.) MOMO AND MARY WERE THE ONLY TWO ‘CANON’ GIRLS*
BECAUSE WHOA I SURE DO REMEMBER
(*I FORGOT TO MENTION TOO BUT ENE PRE-KONOHA’S STATE OF THE WORLD PV WE STILL SAW AS ‘(ENE)MY MIKU’ AND WEREN’T SURE IF SHE WERE LIKE A MIKU CLONE / EXPY OR SOMETHING OR IF SHE’D EVEN BE CANON BECAUSE OF THE MIKU CONNECTION [IIRC]) (TAKANE WE STILL KNEW AS “ACTOR” BECAUSE HEADPHONE ACTOR AND WE DIDN’T KNOW HER GENDER THEN EITHER)
(HIYORI DIDN’T HAVE A CANON DESIGN YET MUCH LESS A NAME SHE STILL EXISTED AS SHORT-HAIRED HIYORI IN WANNYANPUU’S FANMADE PV ‘VERSE KAGEROU! (HEAT HAZE!) HIYORI KIND OF EXISTED TOO BUT WOULDN’T ACTUALLY BECOME CANON FOR MANY YEARS MUCH TO THE OLD FANDOM’S DISMAY)
#fuckyeahkagepro posts#fuckyeahkagepro commenatry#fuckyeahkagepro rambles#fuckyeahkagepro tag rambles#fuckyeahkagepro text posts#(I AM LEGIT NOT LYING YOU GUYS)#(THESE ARE MY ACTUAL MEMORIES)#(THEY'RE KINDA VAGUE BECAUSE I DIDN'T SAVE EVERYTHING)#(BUT I WOULDN'T BE SURPRISED IF I DUG DEEP DEEP INTO OLD TAGS THAT)#(CERTAIN THINGS WOULD STILL EXIST)#(hey btw if you think that homophobia WASN'T aimed at M/M KNKD boyyyyy)#(THIS WAS BEFORE THE MEKATRIO REVEALS BUT STILL)#(IT WAS STILL A THING THAT HAPPENED)#(if you think it wasn't aimed at A CERTAIN OTHER M/M SHIP OF AGES PAST TOO)#(like there's legit reasons I'm so passionate about certain old fandom issues)#(I EXPERIENCED THE OLDEST KAGEPRO FANDOM ERA OK)#kanokido#(but YEAH THIS ISSUE IS VERY RELEVANT)#(M/M KNKD was shipped somewhat more than MomoMary too)#(MomoMary did have a slightly decent fanbase start though)#(BUT THEN THE MAIN SERIES HAPPENED AND PPL JUST ... FORGOT ABOUT IT.....)#(LITERALLY WHY)#(negl if it weren't for the ongoing ages issue)#(MomoHiyo should have legit been considered too)#(N E G L N E G L N E G L)#(HIYORI WAS THE ONLY OTHER GIRL EVEN IF SHE DIDN'T HAVE A CANON AGE YET)#(F/F WASN'T CONSIDERED WITH HER AT ALL)#(hey btw. that homophobia was aimed at pretty much every m/m ship that existed in the old fandom. yeah. YEAH)#(also. also. Wannyanpuu's Hiyori is still legit a thing too and tbh she HAS no canon age)#(NEITHER DOES WANNYANPUU'S HIBIYA T B H T B H also I have some vague memories of like ... v. v. old askblogs drama?? or something?? ?)
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fuckyeahkagepro · 7 years ago
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since I ... realized many in Kagepro fandom may have legit forgotten about these precious children and what helped jumpstart Kagepro as a series to begin with
remember the old KageDaze fan pv?? this pv is NOT CANON to the current series fyi BUT it obviously inspired a lot of it. Wannyanpuu since went on to work on the series itself iirc, as did Sidu, who helped with Konoha among etc.! most of this artwork is from Wannyanpuus’ verse or otherwise pre-main series / pre-Mekakucity Actors / anime. “Kagerou” (as called by fans) was essentially the “Heat Haze” given a “human” form i.e. Hibiya past a point of hundreds of thousands of loops.
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(no I will never stop pointing out this line I mean) (that line’s still canon everyone) “Shirori” (iirc?) was Hiyori’s from the same! (or “Shiro” Hiyori) Hiyori also initially debuted with this short haired design - she wasn’t actually redesigned for canon until the later Children Record !! ... she was also obviously MUCH closer friends with Hibiya in these verses and there’s absolutely no indication of any of the stuff from the main series / novels. (because ... this came before that ....) in this verse she also (it’s implied at the very end of the video, anyway) legit tries to save Hibiya from death for the same amount of timeloops as he tries to save her. (because they care about each other but I digress) (order of the photos/who’s featured) 1) artwork for the pv 2) original Hiyori 3) OT4 ? 4) more [by Sidu, who also helped with Konoha and etc.] 5) more old art 6) Wannyanpuu’s Hibiya 7) KageHibi ..... 8) “Kagerou” Hibiya 9) MARY (an initial character sheet for her!) 10) various Wannyanpuu’s Hibiyas and Hiyoris doodles/designs (KageHibi also used to be a very semi-popular ship back in the day) (early Konoha/this Hibiya too like there’s a reason you know) (also if Haruka really died closer to 16 as said now by translators well you know) (yeah there was confusion re: ages) (negl they were all canon I mean) (you didn’t see this) speaking of that. I literally JUST looked closer at the bottom image above here for the first time in AGES and are those ages for them (14 and 15?!) did they really legit escape and live to those ages in fan pv verse and I never knew this --?! (because if so HEY 14 YR OLD HIYORI AND 15 YR OLD HIBIYA WOW YOU CAN USE THAT AS A CANON POINT FOR AUs WOW or maybe just LET THEM LIVE) (sorry i’m just saying) (ok but seriously I was always under the impression this Hibiya was 15ish or so going by old info was I actually right?! I MEAN?! CANON YOUNGER SETO LOOKED YOUNGER THAN HIM BUT I DIDN’T THINK THAT MUCH YOUNGER I MEAN CAN YOU BLAME ME)
bonuses:
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(I think this was for someone’s birthday??) (Kagerou!!)
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KAGE/SHIRO (KageHiyo ?? IDK WHAT TO CALL IT EVEN NOW)
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more Kage/Shiro (and a bonus old Hiyo)
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(LISTEN. WHEN I SAY IT WAS CANON) (THE HIYORIS SHIPPED IT TOO) (negl ? HiyoHiyo ?? f/f ?? hello ??) (I DON’T MAKE THE RULES THIS ISN’T ME OK)
(MARY THOUGH STOP MARY PLS)
(and a bonus old!Seto / “Forest-Otoko” chibi head at the top) (”Forest Boy” is what he was called iirc I mean SERIOUSLY)
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( THEY !!! CARE !!! ABOUT !!! EACH OTHER !!! ) anyway when I say RESPECT THIS VERSE AND THEM I mean RESPECT IT LITERALLY WE MAY NOT EVEN HAVE GOTTEN KAGEPRO (and tbh who knows exactly how much inspiration Jin could pull from here) (and a bit more under the cut!) (+old Hibiyas and semi-official SetoMarys)
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(LOOK HIBI ESCAPED A LOOP ENOUGH TO CELEBRATE CHRISTMAS OK) (LET HIM LIVE)
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more random Hibi + food
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BONUS SETOMARYS (the bottom one was for Pocky Day)
(if you think Wannyanpuu/etc. didn’t ship it. I’m sorry. YOU’RE WRONG)
(I still ship/otp on the side MomoMary too though n e g l) (including in this verse it’d probably be even more canon here tbh)
(there’s a bit more where that came from but i’ll spare you) (it’s easily findable though if you search wikis)
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fuckyeahkagepro · 7 years ago
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Kagerou Project fandom history / KageDaze Recap - #1 Wannyanpuu’s Fan Designs x Outer Science Parallels and etc.
subjects in order of appearances (from left to right): [Jin’s Hibiya initially debuted Sept. 30, 2011, in Kagerou Days.] [some songs were already made/debuted before this.] [Hiyori did not yet have an official design.] [Wannyanpuu’s short haired Hiyori design came first, and was fanmade by them for the KageDaze fan pv.] [* Jin (series creator) then asks Wannyanpuu to join his team.]
a) Wannyanpuu's Hibiya - December 17, 2011 [KageDaze fan pv] b) Jin's Hibiya - Children Record / "Opening Song" for Kagepro [2012] c+d) Wannyanpuu’s short-haired Hiyori fanarts by Wannyanpuu e) Wannyanpuu's short haired bob haircut Hiyori, just around and before “Shirori” appears at the end of Wannyanpuu’s pv. f) Shiro Hiyori = ‘Shirori’ is a fandom name ("Shiro" = 'white') [meaning the white/shadowy hue she has as a ‘Kagerou’ / ‘Heat Haze’] g) Wannyanpuu’s Hibiya+Hiyori as good friends (fanart by Wannyanpuu) h) Jin’s Hibiya+Hiyori as childhood friends [Outer Science pv, towards end] i) Wannyanpuu's Hibiya just before "Kageoru[!Hibiya]" waves "[bye]" [after Hiyori dies by truck, and Hibiya fades to black] j) Jin's Hibiya just before "Saeru" (in the form of Kuro!Konoha) waves "[bye]" [Outer Science, debuted Aug. 31st 2013] [as Hibiya dies by truck/Saeru]
Kagerou(s) and Hibi+Hiyo being friends outside of pv/post-pv:
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[^ art by Wannyanpuu, the group/OT4?]
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(it was a supposed happy ending post-pv verse, but .... ?) [art by Shidu/Sidu] [* note: Shidu (later Sidu) not much later then created/designed Konoha (+Kuro!Konoha?)]
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[^“Kagerou”!Hibiya, waving “bye”] (from the fan pv)
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 (”Saeru” having taken the form of Konoha [Outer Science])
(previously in Children Record/Lost Time Memory known as Kuro!Konoha or simply a “dark!Konoha” by the fandom, [including Japanese fandom, so not just english fandom] before that, then became “Saeru” as we know him now (”Clearing Eyes”) * plot-wise in LTM though he is essentially “Saeru”, we just didn’t know for sure * back then, anyway... also note this is Music Route Lost Time Memory * not novels route, not manga route, not Mekakucity Actors anime route) (also note: the framing and placement of Hibiya’s hand reaching out, above.)
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(... yeah)
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(Wannyanpuu’s alternative designs for their fan pv/fanmade Hibiya and Hiyori.)
(* these are around from pre-Konoha no Sekai Jijou.) (* note the “14″ and “15″′s) (* also, a long haired Wannyanpuu Hiyori near right.) (* also note the dates of these sketches in regards to debut dates.)
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Wannyanpuu went on to design Mary and not much later, Momo. Wannyanpuu also went on to create the pvs/music videos for “Imagination Forest” / “Fantasy Forest” [feb. 03, 2012], “Konoha no Sekai Jijou” / “Konoha’s State of the World” [with Sidu], “Kisaragi Attention” [may 27, 2012], and “Otsukimi Recital” [july 02, 2013, some time later on].
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Konoha was initially designed by Sidu as a girl. [note her fandom name is “Beta Konoha”] she was apparently changed to a boy Konoha because they thought Kagepro had too many girls at the time, so it was to balance out the cast. (* note Headphone Actor already existed before this, however!) (hi Actor...) Sidu since went on to create pvs/music videos for: - Konoha’s State of the World [March 30, 2012]
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[*Hiyori’s now-official design debuts here.] [* Hibiya begins to sacrifice himself for Hiyori, while Konoha tries to save them / Hibiya particularly.] and...: - Toumei Answer [May 30, 2012] (*movie/art by Wannyanpuu) [* Ayano’s debut, with Shintaro’s design, pre-Mekakushi Trio info] [* from Mekakucity Days album] [in between, “- in a daze” (novel 1) releases the same day.] [* however, translations were lacking for quite a while, along with other novels.] - Children Record [July 31, 2012] (”Opening” for “Kagerou Project”) [in between, “A Headphone Actor” (novel 2) releases on Sept. 29, 2012] - Lost Time Memory [March 29, 2013] (* during this music video, Shintaro selflessly saves Saeru [as “Kuroha”]/Konoha [??] from suicide. Various routes happen here.) - Yobanashi Deceive [Feb. 17, 2013] [* Kano’s pv debuts] [by Sidu] [* he is one of the last main characters to get a pv in this time frame.] [* Fem!Kano as a design / personality also debuts here. (Yes, she is canon.)] then: - Ayano’s Theory of Happiness / Ayano no Koufuku Riron [April 22, 2013] [in between, “The Children Reason” (novel 3) releases on May 30, 2013] - Yuukei Yesterday [Aug. 04, 2013] [in between, “The Missing Children” (novel 4) releases Aug. 30, 2013] [* literally the very day before Outer Science, below.] [* Saeru takes over Konoha’s form for the first time here, killing Konoha.] - * Outer Science [Aug. 31, 2013] [Saeru takes over Konoha here] [* and then kills ... everyone. along with Hibiya. (above.)] (* please remember novel translations were very hard to come by during this entire time, and the english fandom had to rely on rather vague summaries.) now / present day, long after all that (and more novels, manga, MCA): - “Saeru” (Snake of Clearing Eyes) is FINALLY getting a backstory (?!) (BONUS:)
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... KageHibi ? [official art by Wannyanpuu] (... among other psuedo-‘Kage+Hibi’ arts.) (... no comment on another certain Hibiya ship from this era.) ( I DON’T MAKE THE RULES )
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fuckyeahkagepro · 6 years ago
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some Kagepro fan: Hibiya (including “Kagerou”) was always portrayed as a certain age and can never be pictured the same ages as or older than the others haha what a funny though -- me, an intellectual, whipping out art by Wannyanpuu, an official Kagepro artist:
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Kagepro Fandom History -> official artist Wannyanpuu’s arts ^ pictured: - Kagerou!Hibiya from her fanmade Kagerou Daze pv (far left/bottom) - in the same vicinity with her short haired!Hiyori (aka the first existing design for Hiyori at all as canon Hiyori did not happen until later on), young!canon!Seto (who at the time also did not have an “older” design at all), canon!Mary.... (WHO WAS DESIGNED BY WANNYANPUU) (WHO ALSO DESIGNED MOMO) - (I’m pretty sure the others are Shuuen no Shiori characters because C-ta ? ??) - (not sure if the kinda green-haired girl is early Kido or also a Shuuenpro) - (Wannyanpuu also collaborated with Sidu on Konoha’s State of the World pv) - (which introduced Konoha) - (before the characters ever had the conflicting ages) - (STOP TRYING TO ASSIGN UNCHANGEABLE SET AGES / RELATIONSHIPS TO KAGEPRO CHARACTERS / ALL FORMS OF KAGEPRO MEDIA FOR THE LOVE OF GOD THE OLDEST FORMS (+WANNYANPUU’S VERSE) AND ALTERNATE / NEWER TIMELINES SHOULD BE EXEMPT FROM THOSE UNTIL WE HAVE OFFICIAL WORD IF WE EVEN GET IT) - THERE ONCE EXISTED A TIME WHEN HIBIYA/KAGEROU WAS ASSUMED AROUND SAME AGE AS IF NOT OLDER THAN SETO/MARY/ETC. AND WE LIKED IT
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fuckyeahkagepro · 7 years ago
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Kagerou Project Analysis: Hibiya (& Hiyori) Encountering Momo Kisaragi Before “the Daze”
[ How, When, Where, & Why do Hibiya (& Hiyori) encounter Momo before the Kagerou Daze song happens ? ] [ also: The Daze itself. ]
( continued from here ! )
Friendly reminder the official order of the Routes / timelines goes, like so:
Music Route -> Manga Route -> Novels Route [as of 2014] and/or MCA Route MCA: ‘closest to the latter’ (but now we may have more Routes coming so .....)
Music Route: (keeping in mind what’s been recapped so far from previous posts!) - Momo Kisaragi hasn’t even been created at the time Kagerou Days was. - Kagerou Days happens. - Hibiya wakes up inside the Daze. - “What time is it now?” - Repeat (two verses/choruses/loops) - Third loop: - “Ah!” “Yume [dream]”? - Repeat final time; Hibiya switches ? the timelines. - Momo Kisaragi does not yet exist in the real world (our world). - Momo Kisaragi is later created / designed by Wannyanpuu. - Wannyanpuu: possibly contributed to inspirations for the storyline (especially re: Hiyori Asahina’s design / concept.) - Wannyanpuu’s Hibiya: has phone. (phone: has time) - Jin’s Hibiya, still: “what time is it now?” [ all Routes after ] [ Hibiya: /no phone ( until possibly novel 8′s end ) ] [ Hiyori: /has phone ] [ Ayano: doesn’t even bother mentioning ‘the phone’ ]
Manga Route: - Shintaro & Momo encounter Hibiya & Hiyori very very early on. - The entire course of the Routes changes almost immediately. - Hibiya: “the boy who doesn’t have a wish” [to “save the girl” (yet)] - Saeru - Hibiya & Hiyori don’t know about “The Park”
- The Park: the initial spot where the Kagerou Daze first begins / traps them.
- Momo: tells them about “The Park”. (MOMO NO) (MOMO STOP) - Hibiya & Hiyori: encounter truck. - Hibiya & Hiyori: dies / encounters Daze? - Hibiya (& Hiyori, but not shown until later on): revives (with Snakes ? ?? ) - Saeru (Snake of Clearing Eyes) forms in Hibiya sometime before - Hibiya meets (Manga Route) Ayano. - Hibiya meets Ayano at “The Park”, while trying to remember what happened to him & Hiyori. - Hibiya can’t recall everything that happened to him. - Hibiya notably glances towards the swingset [prominent in Wannyanpuu’s Kagerou Days and indirectly seen in MCA.] [Hibiya & Hiyori often sit there having heart-to-hearts before the Daze happens.] - Ayano: tells Hibiya about Azami’s past. - Saeru: [ possibly: hearing all of this. ] - Hibiya later winds up in the care of Momo & Shintaro as they all try to search for Hiyori. - In between, them all encountering various members of the Dan, Konoha (Hibiya encounters Konoha), etc. [ will come back to Konoha later ] - Saeru: possessed Hibiya at some point before meeting Ayano. - everything else: happens - Hiyori: [seemingly] has Focusing Eyes. - Hiyori: hasn’t had an “Otsukimi Recital” type solo encounter with Momo. - Hiyori: will probably fail no matter what she does. - it can only be Hibiya [ ?? ?? ? ] - Hibiya: “i’m sorry” - to Hiyori - Hibiya: dead. (no thanks Saeru) - Konoha: also dead, trying to save Hibiya. (again no thanks Saeru) - Saeru: duped everyone into thinking Hibiya had Focusing Eyes. - (ok but what if ..... Saeru’s still duping everyone .....) - - - - HOW WOULD (COULD?) HIBIYA REVIVE WITHOUT THE SNAKE OF FOCUSING EYES ??? - IS IT (HIM REVIVING) JUST BECAUSE OF SAERU ??? - IS IT BECAUSE OF ANYTHING ELSE ????? ??? - HOW LONG WAS MANGA ROUTE SAERU THERE FOR ??? - SAERU: “FROM THE VERY BEGINNING” - DIRECT QUOTE FROM SAERU - - - IS IT POSSIBLE FOR TWO SAERUS TO BE POSSESSING HIBIYA AT ONCE ????? - - Manga Route’s New Form Saeru (literally the most recent chapter as of the initial writing of this post):  “ Hello  ! ”
Novels Route: - Momo Kisaragi exists design-wise and “in real life”-wise (our world), but ..... - Hibiya & Hiyori do not encounter her before The Daze. - Hibiya & Hiyori wake up inside The Daze. - Hibiya has various monologues while inside The Daze, Hiyori does too (to Hibiya). - some monologues may be happening in alternative timelines / spoken to a different character (Hibiya -> Ayano in the Daze from here appears in MCA 04) (still curious about another one exactly [I’ll get back to later]). - Hibiya escapes The Daze / revives. [w/Focusing Eyes] - Hibiya meets Momo. - Otsukimi Recital: later happens. - Hibiya drops Momo’s “oba-san” (auntie/old hag etc.) and “Aun” cheeky rudeness from him. - Hibiya -> Momo: “Momo”. (no honorifics.) [ Momo & Hibiya have become closer ! ? Congratulations, “Momo” & Hibiya-kun! ] [ .... at the very, very least, he’s a bit more polite now. ] (... there’s some other fun things in between Hibiya meeting Momo and that) (I’ll come back to those in a later mini analysis!) MCA Route: - starts off very similar to Novels Route re: Hibi+Hiyo’s weirder dynamic. - Kisaragi Attention (Episode 02) happens - Kisaragi Attention in Music Route: Momo meeting Mekakushi Trio + Mary only. - ‘Kisaragi Attention’ here: Momo meeting Hibiya. only - (Momo would later meet MekaTrio+Mary in Mekakushi Code ep 03 instead.) - Hibiya: still calling her oba-san - Momo: let this kind onee-san show you the way! [or: I’M NOT OLD] [ ^ this: happens only once in all forms of the canon iirc. ] - Hibiya: NO WAY OBA-SAN -- - Momo: attracts the crowds with her Eyes. - Momo & Hibiya: “shit” - Momo & Hibiya: RUNS [cue Kisaragi Attention playing] - Hibiya: gets overrun by crowds in between, escapes - Momo: doesn’t get any chance to tell Hibiya about “THE PARK”. (... would she have?) - Momo: doesn’t get to even meet Hiyori, only Hibiya. - Momo: doesn’t even make it to the Department store she wanted to go to. ( more on that recurring theme later too ) - Momo: SIGHS - everything else: happens - (including Otsukimi Recital towards end of anime) [ MCA 04 ] (compare: this dumb old amv I made once) [i’m sorry] ( because screencapping everything would take way too long, ok ;; ) ( but it has most Daze scenes in it while trying to line them up with Wannyanpuu’s version thematic wise ) - Hibiya & Hiyori: [ inside the Daze. waking up ] - Hibiya: /NO PHONE (IN ANY OF THEM) - Hiyori: /has phone - Hibiya: [ probably thinking it’s like a “dream” / “yume?” ] - Repeat four or so Daze loops, getting progressively worse each time. - Hiyori in between: saying things Hibiya can’t hear while smiling / crying - Hiyori: (”i’m sorry”?) (”I love you”?) - possible - Hibiya: [ final loop happens ] - Hibiya: SCREW YOU CAT “Serves you right !!” - (Cat in Novels timeline: Kano interference.) (Cat anywhere else: ???? ??) - (Kano interference: by means of Saeru forcing him.) - Hibiya: SWITCHES THE TIMELINES. - Hibiya: receives the Snake of Focusing Eyes from the Daze and revives. - everything else: happens [ considering new Routes incoming ] [ MCA: also Reset ? (maybe / likely ) ]
BONUS (from Kisaragi Attention, Ep 02:
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( ^ listen. I am not the one writing this series. It’s doing it on its own.) ( Friendly reminder: Hibiya & Momo - closer in age than not ) ( ok but seriously it’s more like Hibiya: just entering junior high school as of Mekakucity Talkers; with conflicting age in canon [still closer to his birthday during loops [August 15th]; Hibiya’s birthday: November 4th]. Momo: just leaving/left junior high school as of MCA, but also with conflicting age. taking supplementary classes; hasn’t yet taken re-do exams. - She SHOULD be closer to ‘15′ by this point of the timeline. - her birthday is literally right before the Japanese school year begins. February 14th -> April [school year begins] -> August 15th [loops / timelines] -> March [school year ends] - MCA Kenjirou too (I realized): “if you [Momo] fail these [supplementary classes] you’ll go back to being a first year [in high school]!” - Kenjirou / as Saeru: manipulating the entire freaking city. INCLUDING MOMO’S SCHOOL. INCLUDING MOMO (?) - loops: happening (probably?: screwing up even more timing re: conflicting ages) - ... friendly reminder Hibiya has another birthday only a few months after escaping loops. then he’s taking junior high school entrance exams ?. ) - Momo: still has to wait until her next birthday (February 14th) to age another year regardless. - closer than not ? - look I’m just saying - - anyway look I seriously doubt Jin would intend for a serious relationship at all at this stage ok at most it’s friendship / fluff / developing - even the anthologies imply this with older!HibiMomo comics / manga - Wannyanpuu and Sidu (Kagepro’s official artists) have contributed to various official anthologies too - Jin certainly approves of the materials or they wouldn’t be published - literally ..... - my opinion aside, literally. - this is mainly for analysis ok. i am not writing this series.
Anyway all that aside: - MCA screencap above:
HIBIYA SWITCHED HANDS WITH MOMO TO RUN IN FRONT OF HER.
[ MANGA ROUTE QUICK RECAP: ] Hiyori to Momo: “i’ll walk in front” Momo to Hiyori: “wow” “it’s like you’re always protecting me .....”
“ There is no such thing as coincidence in this world, there is only Hitsuzen [the inevitable]. ” ( ^ oh hi CLAMP, Cardcaptor Sakura & Tsubasa’s Clow Reed & Yuuko Ichihara ) ( JIN, WANNYANPUU, SIDU, ETC. PLANNED ALL OF THIS. ) ( or at least most of this ) ( storyboarding wise ) ( where even is all of this going ?! )
[ ..... ok a short MCA summary follows ]
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( ^ loop 1. NO PHONE. only clock [right; top] ) (still) (”what time is it now?” - KageDaze official song lyrics, Hibiya’s POV)
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( ^ oh hi swings ) (looking very ominous with Daze colors imagery.) ( friendly reminder: even if the animation was weird in many ... many parts of MCA ) ( literally all of this is still storyboarded. )
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( ^ waking up. loop 2 / in between loops)
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( ^ NO PHONE [only clock] )
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( ^ oh hi “The Park” Momo tells them about. ) [ she tells in Manga Route only that is ] ( looking ... even more extremely ominous ) ( Hibiya’s awareness ... growing ..... ) ( among other thematic parallels: sky, wires, birds, stop signs, blood, etc. ) ( adding poles, etc. ) ( birds / crows: also in Wannyanpuu’s music video [inside the clocks] )
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( ^ [silently saying something] ) (^ “I’m sorry” / “I love you” ?) (note her tears.)
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( ^ red red red sky ) ( ^ Hibiya waking up, frantically looking around [as if to check it was a dream])
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( ^ RUNNING ) ( ^ NO PHONE [only clock] )
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( [silently speaking] ) ( “ I’m sorry ” ? etc.) (tears flying.)
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( ^ final loop ) ( ^ OH NO ) ( ^ waking up. )
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( ^ Hibiya: “.......” )
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( ^ clock ) ( but still not phone ) ( that he still wants in some Routes )
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( ^ no phone ) ( Hibiya: closes door slowly. )
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( ^ SWINGS / THE PARK ) ( shit )
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( ^ TIMELINE SWITCH ) ( this time it’s me not you - Hibiya probably )
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( ^ “SCREW YOU CAT!!!” ) I mean ( “Serves you right!” ) (lit: “look at your own failure / how much of a failure you are” “look at your pitiful self after failing so hard” etc. [to Cat]) alternatively: “take that!” “look at the state of things” etc. etc.
MCA Hibiya: dead MCA Hibiya: receives the Snake of Focusing Eyes and revives MCA everything else: happens Manga Route 2: happens New Form Saeru even after like 6+ YEARS OF THIS: happens
( JIN )
[ ... also: re Honorifics and progressions of ] ( basically it’s like : last names: can be more polite; first names without knowing: rude last or first names used intentionally rudely: rude last names with -san: very polite; formal; etc. first names with -san: more polite than not with -san etc. last names with -kun, -chan, etc.: a bit more informal, but still some politeness ? -san in general: polite, distance; -kun, -chan, etc: more friendly/informal -kun: often for boys (but can also be used for younger girls, such as underclassmen / etc.) -chan: often for girls (but can also be used for younger boys, kids, as a cutesy honorific; etc.) progression to first names, no honorifics: typically means - becoming closer; can be rude if not ) ( it’s kind of hard to explain um ..... ) ( if you’ve ever watched the Digimon Adventures series ? ) [ oh hi another of my main fandoms since long before Kagepro ] ( ... I don’t know how many of you have, but this is a very good example video ) ( if you watch it, note how they progress from last names -> first names ! ) (literally they go through like 5-10 honorifics changes) ( also: rudeness [in between] -> familiarity/closeness ) (note: Hibiya also calls Hiyori by her first name and first name only.) (initially: can be rude. Hibiya is often cheeky/rude. Hiyori even notes this in Manga Route - [he’s from the countryside so he doesn’t have / know manners] etc.) (after: _____ ? ?? ) ( also [Digimon spoilers below]: the canon pairing at the end of 02 [Sorato; Yamato x Sora] also becomes canon through honorifics changing and progression all throughout the first and second series. It was a real surprise to most of the Western / American fanbase at the time because literally all of this gets lost in translation [and very bad, fully Americanized dubs]. ) People there to this day still tend to be confused by it because of things consistently lost in translation and their lack of initial interactions otherwise. [ there are multiple honorifics issues within Kagepro in general too. ] [ literally there’s a reason why they’re used as plot points multiple times ] ( ..... don’t say I didn’t warn you. )
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fuckyeahkagepro · 7 years ago
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Oh my god I can't believe you're still around :O It's been so long since the 2012-2013 heyday (I disappeared right around when mca started airing) and now I have absolutely no idea what's going on lmfao but I'm really glad that there are still people from back then around!! esp a fellow kagehibi shipper :P I'll be watching on in the background from some of my other blogs, but I just wanted to express my appreciation for you still existing lol
!!! !!! !!! !!!!!! (HI ahhhh !!!)(FANS COMING BACK TO KAGEPRO = ALWAYS GOOD TBH)(I don’t want to be alone here by myself … on the old Hibi side at least sobs)I KNOW IT’S BEEN SO LONG RIGHT (HELP)(I’M KIND OF LOST TOO AT SOME POINTS BUT I’M TRYING)(i just really wish all the routes would be acknowledged more tbh they’re all important they all affect my favs especially Hibiya and Konoha like yeah I understand having been disappointed by some things but they’re still all important to the overall plot and how this may resolve …..)(tbh I was never actually a huge KageHibi shipper due to the confusions over the plot and everything [… t b h it was another certain Wannyanpuu’s Hibiya ship I’m not sorry I legit thought he was 15 going on 16 and he maybe was in that verse idek anymore] [but he was ok] but legit Wannyanpuu shipped it and i’m not budging on that nope I support HIBIYA AMAMIYA IS LGBT+ AND SO IS HIYORI ASAHINA HER TOO I LOVE ORIGINAL HIYO AND THE KAGEROUS TOO but I digress aha we’ll just have to wait and see how this ends !!)also thank youuuu though omg ;; ;;(I’LL TRY AHHHH) (we’ll see come the upcoming eventual “Additional Memory” song too omg i’m too excite)
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