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Hear me out but villains / protagonist swap au . Where . Adam and Charlie get swapped .
#Like okay !! So basically Adam wants to rehab the sinners cause he’ll keeps getting shittier and shittier with its overpopulation problem#and seemingly no one is doing anything about it . But Charlie doesn’t want to because in this au she’s a sadist and enjoys seeing them suffe#r! it’s like entertainment to her ! (guitar solo fuck yeah!) and then Lute can be swapped with Vaggie (honestly if the angel Vaggie theory#turns out right then they feel like they’d make good parallels for one another) then a few wayward sinners take a chance on the hotel that#Adam managed to set up (Charlie doesn’t believe it’ll work anyways so she’s fine with it happening) and among those sinners are the three Vs#! Vox & Al are swapped (obvs) Va and Angel are swapped (kinda iffy on this cause . I don’t want to make Angel a predator nor do I want to#victimize Val given . who he is.) and Velvette can have Nifty’s role ! somewhat conflicted on who j should swap with Husk and Nifty though#I guess the Vs don’t necessarily need specific swaps . they can just fill the roles of ‘sinners who help around / stay at the hotel ‘#in the same way the og protagonists might not have to be the exact same flavor of evil#just still be antagonists
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Kacchan Bias
the left wouldnt be REMOTELY interesting to me if it werent for the right
#bakugou katsuki#kacchan#bnha#mha#“universe where he never did anything wrong”#so just a nice pretty blonde? thats kaminari#“no no i mean where he is still loud and gremlinface and antagonistic but never said that stuff to deku”#MONOMA NEITO is RIGHT THERE#him starting off as a VILE ANIMAL CREATURE is why i love him#i love it. its NECESSARY CONTEXT.#if he was just the perfect guy so soft so sweet so smart and had never done anythign bad i really wouldnt care at all#ALSO muzzle#my art#kinda#as in i added the stuff its jsut a meme
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(Another) Ghost in the Machine
DP x Hellblazer (the original John Constantine comic)
Ritchie Simpson continued to search frantically for the connection out of the computer and back to his body as he begged John to explain what he meant by saying “Goodbye.”
Had John disconnected him? He knew John’s sense of humor wasn’t the lightest, especially after Newcastle drove them all a bit insane, but that felt too far even for him. Nah, he’d probably just gotten himself a bit lost in the wave of energy he’d experienced in the Tongues of Fire network and was accidentally looking for his body in the wrong spot.
He pulled himself back and let his mental connection to the digital world expand outward, probing the rest of the machine for the connection. He knew he was in the right system, so as long as he looked thoroughly he’d definitely fi—
Everything flashed a surge of blinding white and then was replaced by pure darkness. He thought he screamed, but he couldn’t hear his own voice. Couldn’t even feel his own thoughts. Trapped in one single instant that stretched for indeterminable eons. Then, eventually (or was it immediately?), awareness began to trickle back.
He was still in the computer, though it felt… different, somehow. His thoughts still weren’t entirely in order. The first possible hints towards his location he found were the sound voices trickling through from the outside world. Voices he didn’t recognize. Young voices.
“I’m happy to help, Tuck, but I’m not really sure what you expect me to do here. You’re way better than me at this computer stuff than me.”
“By all means, feel free to keep complimenting me, but this has been frying my brain, man. I got this thing secondhand, and the system should be quite powerful, but there’s something using up a ton of its processing and I can’t figure out what. I was hoping you could do your ‘enter into the computer’ thing and see if you see anything.”
#okay so for people who don’t know what’s going on with the DC side:#in John Constantine: Hellblazer there’s this old friend of Constantine called Richie who uses “quantum magic” to inteface with computers#and Constantine asks him to find the base of the Resurrection Crusaders (a religious group that’s an antagonist of that part of the comic)#which he does do. but while looking into the Tongues of Fire subgroup he encounters a thing of energy that burns his body to a crisp#but his mind is still in the computer unaware of that#and constantine doesn’t know how to explain that to him so he just… doesn’t.#and unplugs the machine as like a mercy kill ish thing#in the comic he sorta survived in the network for a time longer#but instead this idea was more like he was trapped in the memory banks of the computer#which eventually made its way into Tucker’s hands and led to him and Team Phantom meeting#he’d probably count as a ghost but the situation would certainly be unusual for both sides#dp x dc#dpxdc#dc x dp#dcxdp#danny phantom x dc#danny phantom x dc crossover#dp x hellblazer#dpxdc john constantine#dp x dc prompt#dpxdc prompt#dc x dp prompt#dcxdp prompt#oh also. just gonna kinda sidestep how he helped Constantine out later in the original. I guess John worked something else out this time.#or maybe that event could be delayed so Ritchie can still show up (perhaps with Team Phantom’s aid too though…)
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psa that the day there are no jgy stans left on tumblr dot com is the day i am dead
but rest assured i'll go to my grave exactly as i lived: obnoxiously proclaiming to everyone within earshot how great lianfang-zun is. narratively, metaphorically, spiritually. sexually, too, like why limit myself. i like to keep my options open
#the spirit of su minshan possessed me for a minute there but like. i'm fine with it#jin guangyao#he did crimes??? good for him 😌#editing this post to add that while the tone here is clearly joking#i really am fundamentally still engaged with this fandom#and with this book#almost exlcusively because of my enjoyment of jgy#even xiyao is secondary for me like i love it and i'm ride or die for it obvs#but jgy as a character is the main draw for me. and he would have me by the throat even if there was no zewu-jun#(tho i think jgy's life would be more depressing for his absence obviously)#but he is just. /clenches my fists!!!#THE most compelling character in the story and i cannot stop thinking about him!! cannot will not!!#who else in this book has his range? who else can be the doe-eyed idealist AND the spy with blood on his hands who ends a war?#who else is two different greek tragedies and at least two separate shakespearean tragedies rolled into one antagonist#an antagonist who but for the POV of the novel could very easily have been the protagonist#whose moral event horizon is so deeply entwined with his own trauma and abuse that there is no way to meaningfully separate#the violence he does to others from the systemic violence that was done to him for his whole life?#who else in this book manages to get five separate sect leaders utterly obsessed with him no matter how you choose#to interpret that obsession?#no one!!! that's who!!#ain't no one else in the jianghu doing it like lianfang-zun and that's just a goddamn fact
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Sometimes, you just gotta sit back and draw this a-hole✨
#oh no I GAVE HIM SIX FINGERS?!?!#AUGHHHH PLEASE IGNORE THAT :'))#I both hate him but absolutely love him at the same time lol#Like no#YOU DON'T JUST TRICK GONTA AND GET AWAY WITH IT#I MEAN GONTA!! BEST BOI LIL CINNAMON ROLL#WHO DIDN'T DO ANYTHING WRONG WHATSOEVER#but like hes still funny and antagonistic so I guess he's my favourite hehe#currently finished chapter 5 by da way#AGHHH I LOVE THIS SERIES SO FRICKING MUCH-#kokichi ouma#drv3 kokichi#danganronpa killing harmony#ndrv3#killing harmony#danganronpa#art#rendering is actually pretty fun though#i don't know what possessed me to make this#also I SPENT AN EMBARRASSINGLY LONG TIME ON HIS HAIR AGHH#But I somehow managed to figure it out yass
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hehehehehhooo,, decided to draw some hermits as the mystery skulls animated gang!! why? uhhh mostly just 'cause.
special thanks to the ibaaf server for helping me pick the roles! gem is vivi,, false is arthur,, pearl is lewis,, and etho is mystery!!
better pic of pearl under the cut, where you can how lazy i am,,ms ksmsksjs
#my art#hermitcraft#mystery skulls animated#falsesymmetry#geminitay#ethoslab#pearlescentmoon#falsesymmetry fanart#geminitay fanart#ethoslab fanart#pearlecentmoon fanart#this wasn't supposed to have this much effort put into it. and then it took five hours.#chose etho's role first cuz i really like the kitsune etho headcanon#(yes his collar has a maple leaf on it)#and the lil deadbeats are a bunch of lil tillys!!#we also gave roles to some of the other characters. bdubs is shiromori and cub is reverb/???/possession guy#sorry guys; you're antagonists now 😔#actually i don't think cub would mind this#also i refuse to think any harder about what bdubs being shiromori means. they're both plants okay.#it was either this or joel#or that one sock monster guy from season six#joe and cleo are duet and chloe respectively. joe as duet fits. cleo as chloe does not but also no one else really fits chloe anyway so idc#no more wanting an undead boyfriend.... THEY are the undead boyfriend now.#i think we had uncle lance as iskall??? still not too sure#they both have beards tho. that's something#oh!! also rendog is galaham bc i said so.#anyway. please watch msa it's so so good.#(or watch hermitcraft if you haven't already. a new season started a while back it's the perfect time to join)#not sure if i'll draw more of this;; this is less an au and more just me being silly#but i hope y'all like it regardless!!
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Hi so in case anyone was dying to know, this is what i think some of the cast of the terror would look like as animals :3 notes under cut
From left to right:
Crozier- Irish Terrier
Silna- Polar Bear
Goodsir- ryeland sheep (known for tasty mutton ;3)
Hickey- red fox
Franklin- old english game rooster
Fitzjames- red deer
I had fun coming up with them :) and I kinda wanna doodle some screencaps but with like a lil short sheep goodsir and his bestie the giant polar bear lady silence whom he thinks would love England. Or like hickey on his bullshit but with more flair bc he would have a fox body and tail to really fuck up that line of action
Anyways heres some closeups and sketches
#i give the gift of short king to those i love#this is like my first time delving into anthro anything but i like the lil leg shapes#and how i can push the character design#i have trouble pushing human body typs but animals was a lil easier#puppyyyyyyyyy#ahem anyways i stg i actually made a pointed effort to avoid fandom when watching this show bc i wanted to develop mature opinions on my ow#about this masterpiece of a tv show#and my opinion is everything about the show was great i looooooooooooove ocean based horrors AND arctic horrors yippeeeeee#except i didnt like the magic polar bear#my fav antagonist was the lead in the cans i loved her <3#i also have like nuanced opinions or wahtever but those are boring#anyways despite the way i went about watching the show i did still end up drawing crozier as a doggy#so thats my cross to bear i suppose#the terror#james fitzjames#francis crozier#yeah that should do it#the terror- animal au#?#maybe#im putting that tag in just in case i ever wanna draw more doggy crozier. and everyone else i suppoe.#would you. ghys believe me if i said my fav was actually goodsir#anyways if they were all doggies they would be#irish terrier (obvs) - northern inuit dog - airedale - coydog - bloodhound - poodle#from left to right#anyways im done yapping
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The fact that Main-verse Ooo is as good and as kind as it is (relative to the other universes shown so far, at least, it's obviously not perfect) all because of the same character that starts off as the OG series' antagonist, the person we were made to see as the bad guy (albeit an often ineffectual one) for several seasons, is making me lose my mind.
Imagine finding out the guy you spent your childhood beating up and saving princesses from is in fact a driving catalyst behind you being able to exist, and not only exist but also live in a world that knows what kindness is. All because that man, the same man who you've witnessed do terrible things, once met a little girl and taught her how to be good.
Simon's story really shows us that even if you lose your way and forget how it is to be good yourself, the world keeps the memory for you. That act of love Simon showed Marcy by protecting her and seeing her as more than the monster she thought herself to be created ripples upon ripples, small at first but eventually enough to help give their wreckage of a world—a world that easily could have been forsaken, its goodness overlooked because of its inhospitable remains—a chance to grow into something beautiful. Because of those very same ripples Simon created, the people of Ooo grew up in a world where they know enough about kindness that they were able and willing to spare the 'bad guy' some, to see beyond the wreckage and allow him to grow too.
In saving Marceline, Simon helped to not only to save the world, but also himself.
#fionna and cake#fionna and cake spoilers#adventure time#simon petrikov#ice king#marceline abadeer#simon and marcy#meta#this was just a phone note to get thoughts out of my system but then it came out semi-coherent#so welp guess i'm writing meta now. i'm really in the deep end now. but yeah...Ice King and Simon's story being about the power of kindness#A cruel world requires constant cruelty to be maintained. But kindness? That reaches across time. one act of kindness sparks another#'I need to save you but whose going to save me?' That act of love and compassion is gonna save you ya dingus....eventually#In a less kind world finn and Jake could have watched those tapes about Simon and still decided IK was a hopeless cause.#That he was too far gone to be saved. But they didn't. They chose to treat him nicer and actually be friends with him.#One thing i always loved about IK's story is that he didn't have to completely change himself for people around him to treat him better#They changed their perspective and were kind to him and it was THAT that helped him change. to grow beyond the 'antagonist' role#to quote my go to and all time favourite good place quote:#'the point is people improve when they get external love and support. How can we hold that against them when they don't?'#Arrgh sorry I just always loved Ice King's arc in the show. From pesky antagonist to the person Finn dived into a chaos god to save#(the world's new beginning and its near ending being all because of simon. he has such main character energy and boy does he not want it)#And now we're getting Simon stuff and I'm so normal I'm so normal I'm so normal (<- has never been normal about this character)#(i...i have many MANY drawings of ice king and simon from 2015 and the years after. i was doomed from the start. F&C was the final straw)#(as was reading marcy's secret scrapbook recently...and here i thought i'd truly reached the capacity of hurt i can feel about these two)#Going insane over these last two episodes. 'she didn't have a me'. Fionna and Simon bonding. Gumlee kiss. PETRIGROF BACKSTORY#and the implication that Simon isn't remembering it accurately? Their sweet sounding love song actually foreshadowing their issues?#I am clawing at the walls. thank you AT crew you are enriching the enclosure that is my brain
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me during the major update trailer: huh prometheus is kind of an odd choice for a secondary antagonist
me after fighting him 1 time on olympus: oh actually I'm not normal about him At All huh
#HELP. never had a character go from 'huh?' to 'poor little meow meow' so quickly#hades game#hades 2#hades 2 spoilers#changing his allegiances was a bold move but i think it was the right one. it makes him SUCH an interesting antagonist#his motivations are entirely understandable and that makes him sympathetic. and therefore compelling#i am so curious about what's going on behind the scenes with him and chronos#how much of his change was intentional as a result of his punishment and how much was manipulation??#how much of the prometheus that everyone reveres is still in there?#he fights with the gift he gave humanity and the punishment bestowed upon him. a DIRECT 'fuck you' to the olympian#all that and. dare i say? he's a little zagreus-shaped. to me at least#not just in terms of looks. but the speech patterns and his word choices too#if zag had chosen to be embittered and turned on the gods... they probably wouldn't be so different.#it might be too early to tell. i might be projecting. i'll analyze properly once i get a chance to play more#hadesposting
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some phantoms </3
#They are such a cool antagonist I cannot believe they're still alive and I'm just never gonna see them again :(#AA5 spoilers#Ace Attorney spoilers#dual destinies spoilers#Bobby Fulbright#phantom
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I DON'T have a favorite ship dynamic I DON-
...fuck-
#its just a cocktail of tropes I like#antagonists in love? goofy x serious(secretly also pretty goofy)? height difference?#all this and more in this weirdly specific dynamic!#I wanna be evil with my cool badass partner who loves me even tho Im a weird little trash gremlin :(#frock is the biggest outlier here but they still have the right vibes I think#feel free to rb with more examples btw I wanna add to my collection >:)#wander over yonder#hater x peepers#deathglare#death glare#scott pilgrim takes off#julie x gideon#gideon x julie#goosepowers#helluva boss#fizzerozzie#fizzmodeus#unikitty!#unikitty frock#rise of the teenage mutant ninja turtles#hypnowarren#hippoworm#kim possible#drakgo#she ra and the princesses of power#entrapdak
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I’m going to hold your hand when I say this but some of you need to realize that if Devin Grayson used racist stereotypes in Nightwing 1996 writing Dick and Yoska then she was also using racist stereotypes writing Catalina Flores
the concept of an aggressive, sexually predatory Latina is not new, it’s not original, and frankly it’s tiring to see be repeated
acting like the way Catalina was/is portrayed in canon/fanworks is totally divorced from her ethnicity is how we get fics where Dick is triggered by hearing someone speak spanish (not even the specific pet names that Cat used, just spanish in general??!)
and I like Catalina as an antagonist, at least a secondary one, I think the Blockbuster arc has held up well compared to some other runs, I think that Devin is a decent writer with pretty good pacing for comic books which I can appreciate, and shockingly, I’m fine with the rape taking place in canon and the aftermath, as I know that the run was cut short (I’m a dead-dove fan and I’ve always liked any kind of whump, I can see why others don’t though and I understand that)
I also think that fanwriters need to be aware of bigoted source material, and that they don’t need to exacerbate these problems by flattening Catalina into a hypersexual, “crazy Latina” caricature which Devin even didn’t fully do in her run
I promise guys, there is a way to write her that doesn’t lean into stereotypes but still has her doing a terrible thing, I pinky swear
#nightwing 96#catalina flores#devin grayson#I am genuinely glad that people are quick to point out the anti-roma stereotypes used#but people are very quick to accept that Catalina is just like that- no influence from racism she’s just an evil bitch#i still can’t get over how someone wrote dick being literally triggered by someone speaking spanish around him#like he didn’t live in new york. like gotham and bludhaven aren’t large multicultural cities…#I have tips for rewrites if anyone needs them#pleading and begging#this is part of an ongoing trend of people treating female antagonist like static events that happened instead of people making a choice
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Bow problems (+ other nonsense)
#saroart#dead cells#the beheaded#the collector#they just wanted a nice bow#the collector can do a lot of stuff but i don't think he's good at bows#i was drawing a lot of antagonistic beheaded/collector content so i wanted to do some more cute junk#okay a lot is an exaggeration. still#need some guys being buds content sometimes#weird monster guys doing domestic shit is my favorite genre#i got a bonus at holiday time and im tempted to buy a tablet i can use portably#esp because holy fuck i don't know how to draw anymore#but also i just spent stupid money on tickets to live podcasts so i probably shouldn't#unrelated im very upset today because fucking UPS didn't ring my goddamn doorbell and so “”missed me“” and couldnt deliver my specialty meds#why must i get my meds through ups#because the us is a hellscape and i am beholden to my health insurance company#ups who has literally never managed to get a package to this apartment#tbh im stressed as fuck about having to go through this every goddamn month
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#berkut#berkut fire emblem#fire emblem#fire emblem echoes#fire emblem echoes shadows of valentia#fe sov#today's va spotlight is ian sinclair - the voice of the proud rigelian prince#this is a mix between his official design and his feh design bc...angles#before anyone gets too excited - no i still have not beaten sov; not even close lol#i just got far enough to see him and go 'oh i like this one'#only found out he was 17 while looking up references... which makes him even more tragic from the little i know of him#if i ever go back to sov it will be to find out his full story#'kas he's an antagonist-' i said what i said#that's one more sketchbook filled yay#my art
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#dbtag#silly hours#god#I feel like that's a really clear and consistent thing throughout the entirety of the manga but OTL leave it to Toei!!!!#lays on the floor I wish people were less afraid of letting “good guys” be flawed and selfish and reckless without having to like.#idk vilify them?#like Goku does and always has had a ton of negative qualities about him but what keeps him a protag and what keeps those negatives charming#is that 1) he never promises to be anything Else. If you're upset by his behavior that's a you problem Goku's just doing Goku#He's only upset when Other People get hurt because 2) almost none of those negative qualities contain any malice whatsoever#even as a kid when he was 'i killed that guy' it was like 'i solved a problem why are you mad (gen)' not 'good fucking riddance lol'#and he kept that as an adult too even when he learned more about compassion he's still 'well if you're not gonna stop i have to kill you'#it's never 'fuck off and die' it's always 'listen buddy either you knock it off or i knock you out there is no option c '#and god i love that Goku. I spent so long thinking I hated Goku growing up but I only hated Toei's Goku. Toriyama's Goku is GREAT.#like look if an antagonist is just a hero with the wrong perspective a hero is just a villain with the right one#and the fact that Goku has all of the qualities of a villain with none of the malice or intention makes him SO POWERFUL as a character#Goku doesn't like bystanders getting hurt. That doesn't make him less chaotic and self-centered and simplistic in his worldview.#A hero sacrifices his loved ones to save the world -- a villain sacrifices the world to save his loved ones --#Goku sacrifices himself because you cannot kill him in any way that matters#idskahds anyway here's another essay in the tags for your wednesday evening scroll#the justification the interviewer gave was that the anime was for kids but my beef with that is that Hero Tropes strip chaotic characters#of their emotions. Goku's conflicts are emotional. Goku's power is emotional. Goku's childlikeness keep him authentically emotional.#MORE kids -- ESPECIALLY little boys -- deserve a male protagonist who leans into his emotions to persevere and win.#Super deciding his “angelic state” would kill him makes me want to tear my hair out lmao Goku's EMOTIONS are too strong to hold it.#you could've just asked toriyama about it why'd you decide on the most basic high-stakes shorthand possible OTL#aNYWAY#media analysis#in the tags at least lol
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Oh hey what about a groundhogs day event where the hero has to relive their traumatic “One Bad Day”-esque backstory but it’s another hero they either know really well and the only way to break the loop is letting that horrible event happen
Bc I’m basic my first thought was “Oh, this would absolutely tear up anyone having to walk down crime alley knowing way too well what’s about to happen”
But I’m also obsessed with my blorbo so my other thought was “Omg lol, imagine if one of the adult heroes ended up in Billy’s body just before his parents left to go die on their dig and think maybe they can save their co-worker the tragedy he faced so young only for every attempt they succeed at getting them to stay keep the loop going and they realize they have to let them go and doom this kid all over again. Haha, extra points if the loop actually lasts from that point to them actually dying so they wake up the next day thinking they failed again only for it to be tomorrow and suddenly Uncle E gets the call that his brother and sister in law are dead and then whoever is in Billy’s body is getting thrown out with a suitcase realizing maybe the nightmare is going to last longer.”
And I just had to laugh bc goddamn my brain cant stop with angst
#‘DC stop making Billy miserable’ I say into the mic#‘I can make it worse’ says my brain ready to swing at the orphan with a sledge hammer#Groundhog Day but body swap basically#even funnier if they DONT know their fellow hero but still realizes the warning flags and tries to save them only to keep waking up#that tragedy of knowing what’s going to happen to someone you care about but the only way to escape is to let it happen#also just the jarring shift back to childhood for a lot of these heroes#other ideas being stuff like one Robin dealing with Dicks One Bad Day doing all they can to save his parents#someone dealing with the day Clark lost his parents/Pa specifically as his Bad Day bc he was too baby for the whole Krypton thing#maybe even a villain/antagonist trying to stop their hero from existing but just ending up sympathetic#then when the day is over they are through a whole character arc and don’t even want to fight anymore bc ‘I am so sorry for your loss’#vice versa too since villains have their Bad Days too#if this has been done for DC please tell me so I can go feral over this idea#dc#billy batson#shazam#batman#fanfic inspo#fanfic ideas#groundhog day#dc comics
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