#just ot3 is Shun x Katia and Katia x Kyouya and Shun x Kyouya
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At this point I think it’s physically impossible to convince Kyouya does not purr.
Like hear me out. Goblins were very Rodent (Hamster) coded so I feel like they probably communicated with a lot of squeaking/chirping noises. But due to depression during the war Kyouya stopped really making those noises but when he’s relaxed he ends up using those vocal chords to communicate respond to things (and he doesn’t even notice he’s doing it). So I like to think he purrs instead of snoring. Look maybe that’s more Cat than Rodent but fantasy Monsters means I can do what I want lol.
Also I am on my OT3 Shun x Katia x Kyouya bullshit and I’m never coming off it. I should really think of a Ship Name but small Fandom means tagging their names is better for visibility.
#my art#kumo desu ga nani ka#kumodesu#so i’m a spider so what#Shun x Katia x Kyouya#yamada shunsuke#Schlain Zagan Analeit#Ooshima Kanata#Karnatia Seri Anabald#kyouya sasajima#warth KumoDesu#wrath KumoDesu#the sketch lines look a bit faint#and I gave up on Katia and Shuns outfits#but I did thing#I try#ot3 is everyone with everyone but Kyouya is my fav so he gets a lot of focus#he needs it fr fr#but I should also draw more Katia and Shun#just ot3 is Shun x Katia and Katia x Kyouya and Shun x Kyouya#polyamory comes in different ways#but OT3 to me is everyone poly not poly person with multiple s/os#polyamory#but all forms of it deserve respect#also agenda of shun and Katia convincing kyoua to get some sleep
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How do you feel about Fei x Sophia? It’s my crack pairing. Also bless you for the OT3 (Katia x Shun x Kyouya) content it’s only you and me shipping this but it’s like,,, one of my biggest pairing.
(My phone glitched when I sent the last ask so I don’t think it went in? If this sends twice I’m very sorry!)
Fei x Sophia? Hmmm. I can see it. both of them have girlboss energy so maybe their ship is just the girlboard-of-directors.
It's a good ot3! It's complex! I have many thoughts on it that won't fit this post!
(Also, I didn't get the original one, sorry 😢)
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My absolute top ships from KumoDesu are Shiro x Ariel and Shun x Katia x Kyouya so let me just post all my main reasoning in one post. I have 100% posted some of these before in Asks because it all comes from my Headcanons/Opinions Doc. And some of these are worded a bit all over the place but it’s the thought that counts.
On Shiro x Ariel:
Shiroai/Kumoko x Ariel… is good stuff. The way Kumoko talks about women… is just not heterosexual lol. Her joking about how she’s in love with them (calling herself a kept man with D and all her convos with Ariel about confessing her love) and staring at boobs. Also the quick and brief description of men versus how she talks about women (how when she talks about how Mera’s “probably a catch” sounds so unsure and like how a Lesbain would describe what to look for in a man). There’s a lot to support this of how they care about each other. And how they really don’t want anything bad to happen to each other. The “I’ll accept no other ending besides one where the Demon Lord is smiling” is cute af.
But on the Grandmother Ariel and Granddaughter Shiro thing. So I could see this being a reason for people not wanting to Ship Ariel x Shiro. But I always felt they joke about this because in reality they are not related like that. All of Ariel’s “Children” are technically made with a cloning skill so they’re biologically the same. And the Egg Laying skill the Queen Taratects use does the same thing as well. So it’s not incest it’s clone fucking. ALSO Shiro remakes her body with her own magic plus her mind is a God’s Deep Fake of a High School Girl and an Average Japanese Spider.
On Shun x Katia x Kyouya:
“They're weird about each other” is one of my favorite Shipping reasons because it’s so true. I mean Shun and Katia are pretty solid in Canon and I would say I’m just adding Kyouya to it to make it an OT3 but also once I see it I can’t unsee it. Just the fact that all 3 of them single out their “Friendship” as something special. I don’t think Katia super had other friends in her past life (being an uncracked egg will make that hard) but Shun and Kyouya did and they never really mention it. Shun was peak NPC and was not super close but friendly to most of the guys but he NEVER mentions it until running into them again (apparently he was on a soccer team and just, never thought it was important or that big a deal). And it’s Shiro who mentions it seems like Kyouya and Shinobu were friends in their past life, Kyouya barely mentions it even after seeing him again. Just the “you're weird about each other” being a way of saying “that’s a little more than a friendship I think” basically.
I think Katia is very protective of her boys. It’s kinda obvious when she meets Shun again and then when they get in dangerous situations. She’s so scared of losing the people she cares about (I think she’s often the most aware of how different and how dangerous the fantasy world is compared to their previous lives). I think the realization Kyouya probably isn’t on their side (because of how Oka kept avoiding the topic) probably hurt her a lot, because she doesn’t want to abandon him but also is too scared about losing Shun as it is (and I feel like when she puts everything together after the fact she feels super guilty for not pressing more). It kinda seemed she really didn’t have many people she was close to in her past life and the fact that Shun (and I’m gonna Headcanon here later Kyouya) still accept her despite everything that’s “different” (cough cough egg cracked) is huge to her. I’m glad in the Novel Shun always does a very good job conveying how much he appreciates, relays on, and trusts her because god she needs it.
Shun is an Emotional Support Dumbass. And anyone who hates him (usually people who only saw his botched Anime version) can meet me in the pit. I also think his general easy going-ness probably helped both Katia and Kyouya a lot in their past lives (because it seemed like neither of them had the easiest home life’s and then they have it rough again after being reincarnated rip).
On intent vs execution:
I think an important thing to keep in mind with Headcanons/Shipping is Intent versus Execution, basically there are things the Author might not have intended but do Read a certain way. Though in Headcanon/Shipping I am not against fun and you are completely allowed to like bonkers crack (as long as you don’t mistake it for Canon or force it on others like some Fanon people do). But Two things I will say with my Two Fav Ships for Kumoko (OTP Shiroai x Ariel and OT3 Shun x Katia x Kyouya) is I feel both of them may not be intended but they do strongly Read as Canon (or at least strong basis for), to me at least anyway.
With Shiroai x Ariel I feel the Author probably just is attracted to women himself but because of this parts from both of their perspectives come off as really Lesbain.
With Shun x Katia x Kyouya I would say “they’re weird about each other (affectionate)”. It took me a while to realize but all of them (maybe not Katia as much as Shun and Kyouya) have other friends, they may not have been as close but they did have other friends. So the fact they all single their Relationship out as something special reads as Romantic/Polyamorous leaning to me. Especially because they always mention the Three of them, as a Trio.
#trash meme#kumo desu ga nani ka#kumodesu#kumoko#so i’m a spider so what#shiro x ariel#shun x katia x kyouya#kyouya sasajima#Yamada Shunsuke#Schlain Zagan Analeit#Ooshima Kanata#Karnatia Seri Anabald#tumblr is still not auto filling some of their names I am going to cry#Ariel kumodesu#Shiroai#white weaver#ships#lesbians#polyamory
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Okay so like Kyouya is probably my fav KumoDesu Characters and I want to Post a Point about his Character that lives Rent Free in my head (and a bunch of stuff related to it) but I am gonna have to Trigger tag it.
So TW: Sucdial Idealization and PTSD
… I think the fact I didn’t censor those Words does mean this Post will be hidden by Tumblr more,,, sorry
But it think I would have to censor everything then RePost it for it not be hidden
Btw I always call him Kyouya because that is actually a real name and fantasy names (ie Wrath) just… doesn’t sound like a name to me and brain feels weird using it as such.
Also because this is from my Opinions Doc (tm) it is gonna mention some very briefly Ship Discourse stuff that I have Written Out but REFUSE to Post because I just feel it’s wrong too? Like I’ll mention NOTPs in passing but Posting a whole Rant about it just feels a wrong? If I ever Post it I won’t tag it.
Also Blatant OT3 Shun x Katia x Kyouya Vibes along with Shiro x Ariel as the Parents to Mera, Kyouya, and Sophia as Always.
Anyway!
-Kyouya Facade:
So a thing that bugs me A LOT is I’ve seen people dumb Kyouya down to “cool samurai” and it’s not that he isn’t but it’s one of those “people being wrong about a character in the way that character wants them to be”. Kyouya puts on the facade of being a cold heart warrior who doesn’t care about others but that is very explicitly explained as him forcing himself. The others see it too. When Shiro dispels Wrath (vol 9) she mentions he looks miserable. When Kyouya forces Katia to back down (vol 14) Shiro mentions it seems like he doesn’t want to be that way. Shun mentions there’s a moment we’re Kyouys seem just Broken and Tired (vol 15). It’s not sub text nor stubble so people missing it confuses me. Kyouya himself mentions (vol 13) that he feels he’s not allowed to be sympathetic to the soldiers he hurts. He feels he has to resolve himself to not show remorse (or pain or worry or his own feelings really) for his goal. That showing those emotions would be wavering and he can’t let it be in vain. But GOD reading his perspective from anywhere past vol 10 just sounds like Suicidal ideation. He intended to die for his goal so after the war I feel he would be the most lost and the most depressed. He goes from working 24/7 for this goal to just empty. He completed it and didn’t die, now what? Left alone with his thoughts would be torture. I think this is where the others come in strongly. Shun and Katia are both very good at reading people and I think they would be very firm about wanting to talk to him. I think Ariel would see the destructive thought processes she herself has had in the past and would intervene. Sophia wouldn’t get it whatsoever but she herself would get lonely and come up with excuses for them to hang out as a (family) group again so she would end up being helpful. I feel Mera would take longer to see it but once he does he’s very firm about Kyouya needing company.
-Kyouya vs Ariel Depression:
Side Note is I do not think Ariel is currently Suicidal when we meet her or onward of that. It sounds like she had a period of it during Sariel getting put into the system. Her relationship with thinking she’s gonna die during her mission is more of being realistic about her limits. She’s old as fuck and knows she won’t be able to last much longer but she’s not trying to die she just vaules her goal more than her life. Meanwhile though I say Actively Suicidal I think Kyouya is kinda unaware. He’s basically using the war as an excuse to chase death without being 100% aware. It’s honestly some very typical Romanticization of war and “Dying For The Cause” that we see him trying to use as a distraction. Past the Goblin Village he feels so broken and has lost sight of values and self worth. He tries to find a meaning to it all by dedicating himself to a cause (when he asks Ariel if there’s anything he can do for this world vol 8) but the reality of war just hurts him further. The line from Dustin about how “if they stop now how can they justify all the lives they’ve already sacrificed for the cause” (vol 16? And Dustin sunk cost fallacy much?) if it kinda makes everything worse for Kyouya. Kyouya already felt like he wasn’t allowed to feel bad for the things he’s done because he made his choice but this sort of cements the “if I’m sorry I wasn’t ready or serious enough” in his mind. It’s basically a terrible spiral of a philosophy that goes against the first thing any therapist would ever tell you and that is “do not bottle up your feelings” the feelings are not the issues it’s how we react to them.
Unfortunately this is actually pretty common in how real world trauma is handled, and is something that the Romanticization of War does in real life (though this also applies to all trauma because I need people to stop thinking war is the only thing you can get PTSD from). The thing with trauma is well intentioned people will tell you you're still the same person, basically trying to refute that you're broken saying you still have the same value. But the thing is trauma does permanently change you (side note life in general will change you anyway so it’s not like you would remain unchanged either way). You will never be the same person and people trying to insist a traumatic event didn’t change you often feel like invalidating that experience. You still have value is a good thing to say but not when it unhinges on you being unchanged. When we treat soldiers as heroes to look up to and don’t acknowledge the complicated horrible reality of war we’re creating a situation where they will have trouble addressing their trauma. If everyone’s treating them like a hero how come they don’t feel like one basically (war is bad basically but I digress).
KumoDesu is accidentally a really good Story about War that does not shy away from harsh realities.
Kyouya Housewife:
I think what Kyouya wants in life is to be a Housewife ngl. Like he was most satisfied working to support people he was close to both in his past life online game and the goblin village. Plus I think though he did that by making weapons he would prefer not to have to fight. What if he makes good knives and just starts cooking for people, I think it would be good for him. Like I don’t have more words right now so this is short but I could go off here.
We can most compare him to Emiya Archer from Fate here ngl (his skill is basically Emiya Archer too). And even the most DudeBros Asshats still know Archer is a HouseWife at heart (which, to get on a Ship Discourse thing from earlier, is why it bothers me so much why I see people try to portray Kyouya as “Masc Cool Silent” type because if you understood Archers implications how did you misunderstand Kyouya direct wording of perfecting support roles?). The Emiya Archer thing is a big reason I think Kyouya should learn how to cook and/or eventually be good at cooking. It just suits his character type. Or maybe Kyouya should get way too into Gardening lol. He already has experience in that.
-Gonna add some Relevant stuff about Shun and Katia here BTW!
-Shun is the anti Toxic Masculinity:
So if it’s not obvious let me point this out; Shun is a Parody of the overpowered Isekai Protagonist. Basically he’s set up to look like he’s in the position of one but his internal monologue basically tells us how deeply unprepared he is. I was surprised that some LN readers dislike him, I thought most of his hate came from the terrible Adaptation version of him. But thinking for the short bit it makes sense, he is the Anti Power Fantasy (and Anti-Incel lol, not all harem fantasy is Incel-ish but OH BOY HAVE I SEEN SOME SHIT). Shun is basically a realistic mentality of “a fantasy world without modern luxury would suck actually” and is realistically woefully underprepared for everything (Shinji Ikari from Eva vibes anyone? Expect like a healthier person). And look maybe it’s just because my health is terrible and I could not survive without modern science but I personally have never had the desire to go to a fantasy world and have never really understood the want some people have (I just wanna read weeb shit I’m good). It’s sad it takes till vol 15 where Shun has THE BEST rant internal monologue about how he’s basically an npc and is soooo unprepared for all this hero nonsense.
We also get a lot about Shun’s discomfort with killing (I believe in vol 15 if not 14) and how it’s just something he never had to think about. He’s never even had to kill for food so how easy death is and how little life is worth in a fantasy is something he has a lot of trouble reconciling with.
I will say the biggest point I want to make is that Shun actually has a pretty Healthy Mentality during the whole Series due to one key trait: he is completely unafraid to admit to his weakness and ask for help. He knows he’s useless in some regards but has absolutely no problem with admitting that and instead looking for things he can do. He does not have the mentality of bottling up his feelings or needing to put on a strong face. A good character comparison would be Stark from Frieren, he is fearful but that does not make him weak, it makes him stronger to be able to acknowledge how he actually feels. I also really like how appreciative Shun is of the help he receives. He knows where he stands and knows he would be lost without the people helping them and lets them know (especially him and Katia, he’s very blunt about how much is a help to him).
Now I don’t think Shun should be in a Leader/Hero role though, and the thing is he knows he’s unqualified as a Hero. It’s just so out of the scope of anything he’s used to and he makes this point. Shun is basically a npc that was destined to be a Salaryman. Again that “your modern everyday person is used to the relatively peaceful modern convenience”. I will also argue that Shun does not have a Hero Complex or feel he needs to be a hero. It’s more he’s trying to emulate Julius, who is someone he looked up to greatly, because he has no idea what else to do.
Bonus another point about him being a joke on Isekai Protags is he is surrounded by women but only Katia is actually a love interest to him. Anna is basically his Mom, Miss Oka is also a Guidance/Teacher Figure, Fei is his friend (and probably more of a sibling than Sue), Sue is actually unhinged insane, and Yuri is a different brand of unhinged insane disconnected with reality (think she only likes Shun because he’s the Hero and that what the church said the saint should follow). So aside from Katia everyone falls into Familiar/Friend or Batshit insane.
-Shun and Julius:
The fun part about Shun as a Character is he is painfully aware how much of an NPC he is and that he doesn’t fit the role of Hero. Which is why I think he looks up to Julius so much and later on tries to emulate him. He quite frankly knows he has NO IDEA what he is doing and wants to be as level headed and smart as Julius. I think that his idol-like obsession with Julius comes from his own insecurities.
-Katia Anxiety:
I think Katia is very protective of her boys. It’s kinda obvious when she meets Shun again and then when they get in dangerous situations. She’s so scared of losing the people she cares about (I think she’s often the most aware of how different and how dangerous the fantasy world is compared to their previous lives). I think the realization Kyouya probably isn’t on their side (because of how Oka kept avoiding the topic) probably hurt her a lot, because she doesn’t want to abandon him but also is too scared about losing Shun as it is (and I feel like when she puts everything together after the fact she feels super guilty for not pressing more). It kinda seemed she really didn’t have many people she was close to in her past life and the fact that Shun (and I’m gonna Headcanon here later Kyouya) still accept her despite everything that’s “different” (cough cough egg cracked) is huge to her. I’m glad in the Novel Shun always does a very good job conveying how much he appreciates, relays on, and trusts her because god she needs it.
#trash meme#kumo desu ga nani ka#kumodesu#kumoko#so i’m a spider so what#shun x katia x kyouya#wrath kumodesu#schlain zagan analeit#Yamada Shunsuke#Ooshima Kanata#Karnatia Seri Anabald#tw sui ideation#tw ptsd
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Scenes that I made up but live in my head Rent Free. One day I’ll Write the long ass Fanfic that goes with this… Look I just think Kyouya deserves to get his Friends back. OT3 agenda Shun x Katia x Kyouya and I should really make up a Ship name so I don’t have to type that every time…
I’m… actually kind of proud of this one? This one came out pretty good? But I have yet to find an eraser that does not smudge 🥲
#my Art#kumo desu ga nani ka#kumodesu#so i’m a spider so what#kyouya sasajima#shun#Katia#I don’t remember their full fantasy names ngl#this is a Shiro kin moment of I rarely remember names#like no genuinely I don’t fucking know what their full names are I have to Google it#also schlain doesn’t sound like a name ngl#Yamada Shunsuke#Schlain Zagan Analeit#Ooshima Kanata#Karnatia Seri Anabald#don’t really like deadnaming Katia#and like Katia sounds like a girl version of kanata enough to me#so I really just always refer to them with their nicknames#continues to post at the worst time for visibility#talking in the tags#artists on tumblr#polyamory
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Do you happen to have a discord account? There's a Kumo Desu discord. It's really not the most active nowadays, but it's there
I do actually! But I have probably the smallest social battery in the world and am also just a person who is INSANELY introverted, so I’m a very infrequent conversationalist. (Just a heads up to everyone I tend to give my Discord as a method of Content at Cons but uh… If I ever meet you in person and add you pls don’t worry if I don’t message you, I’m not trying to avoiding you or trying to ghosting you I’m just anti social and a dumby).
But honestly? I avoid general Fandom Servers (and ESPECIALLY Reddit Subs) like the plague. They’re just… too… unfiltered? Like I’ve come to learn how in Fandom everyone has different things they’re interested in. So you can be into the same Series but just completely incompatible, and that’s not that incompatible people are not bad people at all!!! You just have vastly different focuses and therefore not a lot to talk about! And since I’m mostly a Character Analysis Shipper type (and particularly a DIEHARD OTP/OT3 person) I tend to avoid more Gen stuff cause Shippers often get shit. Like excuse you Shippers DO care about Analyzing the Media!! But a lot of people in Kumoko are really in to like… Power Levels? And I mean yeah it has a lot of Stats and stuff so I don’t think that’s like an invalid point of interest!!! But it’s just never been my thing.
Plus with Kumoko I once checked the Reddit (mistake on my part I know) and (if I’m being honest about my bitterness, so heads up this next part is full of spite I’m sorry) saw people going for Ships I hate with such a passion I had to question if they even Read the Series or are Literate at all. Like my god I have never had NOTPs THAT STRONG. Like not liking the same Ships doesn’t have to be a dealbreaker (really depends on what they are though)!!! Like usually Ships I don’t like fall on a scale of “I could see it but it’s not my go to” to “that kinda icky but I knew it would be gross” but this was a “I have never questioned someone’s Reading Comprehension harder in my life and I want murder”. And do not get me started on people who Waifu Shiro and dumb her down to a Dere girl when her best quality is being insane. And people on Reddit are often mean and idk if Discord Servers are the same.
I mean… I guess this me having to come clean that I am… weirdly over protective of my Character Reads and Ships in Kumoko. Like a lot. Like a “I genuinely don’t understand why I get worked up about it so much?” (My best guess is left over Bullied Kid Trauma but I ain’t about to Trauma Dump rn) So ummmm there’s that… (my other all time Fav Series is Persona and idk cause it’s a Game I kinda expect there to be lots of people with bad takes cause people do Play Games without Reading the Dialogue at all (I know it’s super weird) and it’s a big enough (much bigger than Kumoko) Fandom for there to be people of all takes…) honestly Posting on Kumoko content has been super good for me cause it’s making me feel more comfortable talking about my Opinions? So I always have to give a BIG Thanks to people who send in Asks and Like my Posts.
… SORRY THIS REPLY GOT SO LONG AND PERSONAL GAH! Basically I didn’t know there was a Server but I’m not super interested. I’m gonna instead try to cultivate (with an emphasis on cult lmao) the kind of very specific Content I want to see on my own Blog 🫡
Basically I’m a Post about Shiro x Ariel and there three kids Mera, Kyouya, and Sophia as well as my Shun x Katia x Kyouya Agenda until you all go insane and it invades your brain.
#trash meme#ask#I’m so sorry I went off#you accidentally hit something I have deep seeded opinions on#unskipable cutscene triggered#kumo desu ga nani ka#kumodesu#kumoko#so i’m a spider so what#Reddit is only good for INCREDIBLY NICHE SUBS#like very specific app game help#and even then I’ve only found one that doesn’t have terrible people on it
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KumoDesu Ships
So I Posted all my Persona Ships but haven’t Posted all my KumoDesu ones??? Let me get that so both my Hyperfixation Ship Lists are on here.
I am Copy-Pasting the Crazy Shipper warning so if this ends up on my Blog you might’ve seen it before.
Crazy Shipper Warning (lol)
I actually am a crazy Shipper, strongly dislike when people don’t Ship or break my Pairings, and am OTP/OT3 for life. I just also have Self Restraint and Common Sense, so I understand Shipping's all about fun (and doesn't have to be Canon Compliant or make sense) and to not be an asshole to other people having their own fun. For the Record I’m very much a OTP/OT3 kinda person. I marked the ones I’m super set on as such but even the ones I didn’t mark are still OTP do not separate (I might change how I marked it later because they are all OTP/OT3s anyway). I’m really not a Multishipper (there only a couple instances were I am but VERY few), it might take me awhile to settle on which is my Fav but usually once I find a Ship I OTP it and I stick with it. Also I love Poly Ships (and there many ways Polyamory can work) but am INCREDIBLY PICKY about them so I only have a couple (but the ones I do have I feel very strongly about). Also adding Sexuality/LGBTA+ Headcanons for ones I have them for (but I don't have them for every Ship or Specific Character). Also yes I am caring about Name Order here. Also please always consider GirlBoss x MaleWife because I love FemBoys SO much. I just have a lot of Headcanons and Ships in every Series okay?
Actual Ship List Start!
Shun x Katia x Kyouya/Wrath (OT3)*
Shiroai (Lesbain) x Ariel (Lesbain) (OTP)
Sophia x Fei
Sariel x Gulie**
Julius x Hyrince**
Julius x Yana**
Kunihiko x Asaka
(*I’m weak to MMF OT3s, but they have to actually be Polyamorous Everyone x Everyone. My Pet Peeve is when people Write a OT3 as One Person with 2 SOs.)
(**I do not count One Sided Crushes as Ships. But these are ones where I feel the other could like them back Romantically, though maybe not as strongly.)
Pls don’t hate me for this
I don’t want discourse but one Absolute NOTP
NO to Kyouya x Shiro
Saw this one in a lot of Jpn Fanart I don’t get it. Look it’s just… here’s some Bullet Points.
Massively Clashes with my Character Reads. Always Portrayed in a way that’s just not them. Really Dumbs Down/Easers all their Traits. They have nothing Romantic between them. They’re more Mother-Son in my eyes. Really just putting it here cause I’m Baffled by it. I just Strongly Disagree with it and don’t get it. Like I’ve never had a NOTP this strong ngl.
But again I don’t wanna Argue with people or Start Shit so this’ll be the one time I say something and leave it at that. 🫡
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Hello, I like your art can you share some Sasajima Kyouya/Wrath headcanons? He’s my favourite character.
OHMYGOSH THANK YOU SO MUCH???
*cracks knuckles* YOU’VE COME TO THE RIGHT PLACE. Honestly he’s my Favorite too! A decent of my Headcanons for him revolve around my OT3 or the Demon Army Family so here we go!
This may contain vague Spoilers and I may edit this for grammar or to add more details…
Honestly consider this part 1 because if you ask again later I’d probably have even more written down lol.
(I’m ripping this from my KumoDesu Fanfic ideas Doc so if some of the wording is wonky that’s why btw THERE’S A LOT)
To start I’ve def said this before here: Things to note I’m obsessed with my headcannon of Shun x Katia x Kyouya as an OT3 and there is zero content but I have a million ideas but no energy. Also you can rip the headcannon of the demon army as family with Ariel x Shiraoi as the parents to Mera, Sophia, and Kyouya (and YES I have a long winded modern and other AUs shut up) from my cold dead hands.
Shiro and Kyouya Mother-Son: The Labyrinth and the Mountains are probably the 2 harshest environments in the world. So I like to think that because of growing up in these environments Shiro and Kyouya both have some weird but similar values. I’ve always kinda seen them very much as Mother and Son. The Labyrinth was harsher so she has some more insane survival methods and he sort of looks up to it. (Side note: I know some people Ship them and I never want to throw discourse, you’re allowed to ship whatever you want so don’t want to say much, but personally I hate it very much I could go into why but it’s mostly my character reads and taste). Ariel and Shiro give off so many Mom vibes when it comes to Mera, Kyouya, and Sophia to me lol (and yes they would be siblings in that order I don’t remember where but I think the LN said Goblins have shorter pregnancies so Kyouya is slightly older than Sophia lol). Sophia especially with Kyouya reads as the “no one is allowed to bully my Brother but me” vibes and I love it. Her and Kyouya also both definitely look up to Mera as someone who’s well put together.
For the hair of the non-human reincarnations: Shiro’s hair feels like silk. Fei’s hair feels like feathers. And Kyouya’s hair feels like soft animal down. I bet Katia asks to play with Kyouya’s hair and then has a flied day with how soft it is. I also like to think she tries to convince him to let her do his nails lol.
For lifespan: So Shiroai is immortal, I’m assuming Ariel has a long life span close to that (ignoring the end of the novel with Ariel spoilers), and Mera and Sophia are somewhere in the same boat or close to that… How long is Kyouya’s lifespan??? For most angst is he gonna outlive his human friends but die before his demon family???
Goblins are just Hamsters: The Goblins look like they’re based on Hamster so you can not take away from me the Headcanon they’re language is just Hamster noises. I like to think Kyouya teaches it to the others so they can use it as code. (The Demon Army can communicate purely with inhuman noises lol). I like to think Kyouya purrs instead or snores because of this as well. I also like to think because he grew up around the Goblins he just sees them as people and doesn’t get what everyone thinks they look like.
Kyouya’s height: Kyouya was a manlet before reincarnation it's cannon I’m living. Okay and technically speaking he probably is after reincarnation as well. Like they are in a European Fantasy setting and he’s only “considerably taller than he used to be” which was considerably short for a Japanese High Schooler. Also in Ex2 we see him standing next to a Puppet Taratect (which are all short af) yet they come up to his shoulder.
Housewife vibes: I think what Kyouya wants in life is to be a Housewife ngl. Like he was most satisfied working to support people he was close to both in his past life online game and the goblin village. Plus I think though he did that by making weapons he would prefer not to have to fight. What if he makes good knives and just starts cooking for people. Like I don’t have more words right now so this is short but I could go off here.
My OT3 Agenda: Background: I’m just saying Kyouya is really depressed and probably doesn’t have any plans for after the war but I could see Ariel having in him work in the human area with Shun and Katia (probably cause she feels a bit sad about him losing friends) because he’s in their upper ranks and unlike Sophia can actually deal with people. But I feel like Shun and Katia feel bad that they had each other and he had to grow up all alone so they try and reconnect. Shun, because he really clings to the connections he does have and because they were so close in their past lives, desperately wants to rebuild that. Katia because she seems similarly attached to people she considers friends she’s afraid of losing that and probably feels bad for writing Kyoua off as maybe an enemy and not being there for him like she was for Shun. Kyouya is just deeply confused that they still want anything to do with him and feels undeserving but is really happy. Confession: I think Katia knows about her feelings first but doesn’t say anything due to self esteem issues (except some flirting to test the waters). I think Kyouya has a realization ™ and feels unsure of what to do (also self esteem issues). But ends up visibly being a little off which Shun notices and brings up to Katia (she sorta noticed as well) so she confronts him which ends in a mutual confession between the two as they then decide how to tell Shun. Shun meanwhile worried what’s going irks Fei who decides to inform him of his very obvious (to everyone but him) crushes. Now realizing his feelings he’s very awkward about it until Katia and Kyouya confront him and confession ensues. Now realizing they all love each other: OT3 successful.
Taking this outta the tags: Not even kidding answering asks about KumoDesu because I’ve sort of come to be know as a KumoDesu blog is like,,, I’m living my dream right now. I haven’t even posted my Kumoko Cosplay or that much Art yet but people just wanna hear my opinion???? Literally these asks give me so much dopamine feel free to keep them coming.
#trash meme#ask#people come to my blog to ask about KumoDesu I am loving my dream#I’m not even kidding I love answering asks about my Headcanons for my fav series#let be know as a KumoDesu blog that would be awesome#I mostly only post Kumoko and purseowner anyway lol#kumodesu#kumo desu ga nani ka#so im a spider so what#kyouya sasajima#wrath
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do you have any headcanons regarding the pontiff or demon lord?
Still gotta start with the obligatory I LOVE that people are still asking about my KumoDesu Headcanons❤️ it feels like a meme but my reaction is basically “VALIDATION” every time lmao🤣
Hmmmm I don’t really think I have any for Dustin? I guess I don’t think of him much haha. I do think he is a really well done Character and I would’ve loved to expand on him raising Shinbou though! Oh though funny enough two of my favorite lines in the whole Novel involved Dustin. (Paraphrasing vol 6) Ariel’s line about “language being humanities’s strongest weapon, and Dustin wielding it exceptionally well” just the idea of language as a weapon is really good. (Also Paraphrasing vol 6) Also Mera’s absolute DESTRUCTION of Dustin with “nothing you have/can give is worth as much as what you’ve taken” like wholly shit this line changed my whole way of thinking but damn is it true. Doesn’t really apply to Dustin cause I wouldn’t call him an abuser, but there are so many cases were you have to know your abuser/person who hurt will never be able to fix you cause people who do those things aren’t worth anything.
But for Ariel I DEFINITELY have a bunch, I’ll have to see what I actually have Written down though cause I thinking about it now I CONSTANTLY FORGOT TO WRITE STUFF DOWN AHHHH!
Again MASSIVE SHIPPER BRAINROT so a lot about Ariel for me is gonna be about Shiroai x Ariel because your honor Sapphic Spiders tm. But I also have a decent amount about the found family (that has them being the Mothers of) because my god she is such a Mom to Mera, Kyouya, and Sophia like,,, the Puppet Taratects too def but like,,,, she’s just such a Mom. It’s really cute to see the gap of her giving life advice and guidance to her kids but also getting dotted on herself by Shiroai (cough cough can I add a pet peeve that’s related to wlw Ships by saying for the love of fuck let both Women in a Lesbian Relationship be Feminine? Like why does one have to take the role of the “Man” let them both wear a Wedding Dress).
So my OT3, as you know by now, is Shun x Katia x Kyouya. But my OTP is Shiroai x Ariel. Though I think I have way more introspection for my OT3 over my OTP idk why, maybe cause there is more to introspect for the OT3 while the OTP is so blunt in Canon in my Opinion? I love them both so much though, like will Ship these two Pairing till my dying breath and even after that.
Intent versus Execution: I think an important thing to keep in mind with Headcanons/Shipping is Intent versus Execution, basically there are things the Author might not have intended but do Read a certain way. Though in Headcanon/Shipping I am not against fun and you are completely allowed to like bonkers crack (as long as you don’t mistake it for Canon or force it some people like some Fanon people do). But Two things I will say with my Two Fav Ships for Kumoko (OTP Shiroai x Ariel and OT3 Shun x Katia x Kyouya) is I feel both of them may not be intended by they do strongly Read as Canon (or at least strong basis for), to me at least anyway. With Shiroai x Ariel I feel the Author probably just is attracted to women himself but because of this parts from both of their perspectives come off as really Lesbain. With Shun x Katia x Kyouya I would say “they’re weird about each other (affectionate)”. It took me a while to realize but all of them (maybe not Katia as much as Shun and Kyouya) have other friends, they may not have been as close but they did have other friends. So the fact they all single their Relationship out as something special reads as Romantic/Polyamorous leaning to me. Especially because they always mention the Three of them, as a Trio.
Ships Part 3: Also Shiroai/Kumoko x Ariel… is good stuff. The way Kumoko talks about women… is just not heterosexual lol. Her joking about how she’s in love with them (calling herself a kept man with D and all her convos with Ariel about confessing her love) and staring at boobs. Also the quick and brief description of men versus how she talks about women (how when she talks about how Mera’s “probably a catch” sounds so unsure and like how a Lesbain would describe what to look for in a man). There’s a lot to support this of how they care about each other. And how they really don’t want anything bad to happen to each other. The “I’ll accept no other ending besides one where the Demon Lord is smiling” is cute af.
Part 1 Ship Discourse: Clone Fucking vs Incest: The Grandmother Ariel and Granddaughter Shiro thing. So I could see this being a reason for people not wanting to Ship Ariel x Shiro. But I always felt they joke about this because in reality they are not related like that. All of Ariel’s “Children” are technically made with a cloning skill so they’re biologically the same. And the Egg Laying skill the Queen Taratects use does the same thing as well. So it’s not incest it’s clone fucking. ALSO Shiro remakes her body with her own magic plus her mind is a God’s Deep Fake of a High School Girl and an Average Japanese Spider.
Shiro Spider Habits (but also Ariel too): By the way Spiders don’t have vocal cords, some species can make noise by vibrating (I’m not sure what body part?) that sounds like purring (which I like to think he and Ariel do to flirt) and jumping spiders can make “music” by hitting their segments together. However these are both mating rituals. Also dancing is a form of mating ritual performed by male jumping spiders to woo a female. So basically I just wanna say Shiro not speaking much makes sense when in her past life SHE LITERALLY COULDN’T. Also I think she was probably very offended by having to learn how to dance.
Family Part 3: I think Ariel sees Guli and Sariel as her parents and Shiroai sort of sees Oka as a mom too. Also family Headcanon/Au Mera, Sophia, and Kyouya call Ariel Mom and Shiroai Mama. But I can’t decide and actually recently I’ve been like it the other way around with Shiroai as Mom and Ariel as Mama.
Family Part 4: The Demon Army can communicate completely with inhuman noises (and gestures on Shiro’s part). Kyouya can speak Goblin (which you can’t convince me doesn’t just sound like hamster noises). Mera and Sophia being vampires I like to think can make high pitched noises like bats. And Shiro and Ariel can make a purring sounds but only do that to each other as flirting (this is real, though they don’t have vocal cords certain types of spiders can make a rumbling sound like purring as a mating call).
Hmm sorry I really don’t have as much for Ariel!!! I’ll have to see if I have some more stuff to Write down (which will take a bit as I figure out how to Word stuff) so maybe I’ll add to this later we’ll see. One thing I do want to add to this with is a have a “Rating Insect/Arachnid Monster-Humanoid Designs Tier List” (that I have Posted on my DeviantArt but I need to fix some Formatting on it) and usually Characters like Ariel that only have Spiders Powers and aren’t Monster-ish (as good a Character as he is Design wise think Rui from Demon Slayer) would be a hard no for me buuuuut considering as a Series KumoDesu has had some of the BEST TIER INSECT/MONSTER DESIGN and are NOT cowards with making full Monster she gets a pass (also because I never said I wasn’t biased AF).
Anyway, thanks again BIG time for asking!!! I’m always willing to talk about my thoughts on KumoDesu because I am OBSESSED. These are crazy fun for me ❤️
(though heads up some of these might be drastically shorter than others cause I’ve gone through a decent amount of my longer already Written out ones already).
#Ask#Trash Meme#kumodesu#Kumoko#kumo desu ga nani ka#shiro x ariel#Shiroai#Ariel KumoDesu#pontiff Dustin
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level 99, will be at 100 sometime today. top damage to ariel i've done is ~50 billion. cocoon 21.
HOW YOU GUYS ARE INSANE. But also insanely impressive, I’ve only done the Ariel thing once but my Cocoon is at like 17? I’m still only Level like 66 cause I don’t stay on long enough for it to go up (I’m infrequently on my Laptop cause I need a better Computer Chair and the Game overheats my Phone).
Idk maybe I’m just not into AFK Games cause there is no Gameplay 😭 but like I literally just Log In to see my Blorbos I’m not actually Leveling anything 😭
Finally got 2/3 of my OT3 (Shun x Katia x Kyouya) but getting Kyouya is… gonna be a thing 😭😭😭 like there rarities are totally wrong for Power Scaling (and I’m not even someone into Power Levels I’m a Shipper! Fandom Type Joke lolol Shippers care about Lore more than you know) why is Kyouya an LR??? It’s totally a Cash Grab cause he’s popular as a cool Character (I will not go on a Side Tangent on how seeing him as just Cool Warrior is a MisReading of an incredibly Traumatized Character and War is Bad, I will not-). But all I can think is him looking at Ariel and going “Mom take me home I am SCARED” when he sees the other LRs besides her lol.
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Crossposting Art again!!!
Unfortunately this is all the Kumoko Art I have right now because like I said, burn out servre.
Things to note I’m obsessed with my headcannon of Katia x Shun x Kyouya as an OT3 and there is zero content but I have a million ideas but no energy.
Also not in the pictures but you can rip the headcannon of the demon army as family with Ariel x Shiraoi as the parents to Mera, Sophia, and Kyouya (and YES I have a long winded modern and other AUs shut up) from my cold dead hands.
Anyway I’m tired… just found out that some people actually follow this series here and I had to post this.
#kumo desu ga nani ka#kumoko#kumodesu#light novels#Kyouya Sasajima#Katia#Shun#Ariel kumoko#I’m ngl I’m to tried to tag there full names I’ll look it up later#I switch between calling him Wrath and Kyouya so much I gotta start mixing in Razu-razu to mix you up more#I just realized the photos say Wrath the text says Kyouya… rip
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IT’S LITERALLY JUST YOU AND ME FAM BUT THIS IS ONE OF MY BIGGEST SHIPS RN
OT3 Katia x Shun x Kyouya/Wrath and we don’t even have ship names in Kumoko
WAIT HAVE I ACTUALLY GOUND ANOTHER HUMAN BEING WHO SHIPS MY OT3 (Kyouya x Shun x Katia)????!???,???!!!??!1?
I’m @littleshysheep-at-da and I’m dying bless you
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#reblog#ask#fanbase#Kumoko#kumodesu#Katia x Shun x Kyouya/Wrath#love that tagging all Kyouya’s names can be considered a spoiler#listing Kumoko ships I have in the tags because why not#my other big Kumoko ships are Ari/el x Shi/ro (duh)#and my crack ship is Sop/hia x Fe/i#also like Kuni/hiko x Asu/ka is based#I call Hy/dunce x Jul/ius Orange Julius lol#alway debate which order I put names in an ot3 won’t lie#Kumo Desu Ga Nani Ka? = Kumoko Btw#I know the fandom uses KumoDesu but I always end up using Kumoko
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