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When HotD got out everyone was like Oh, Daemyra is the new, improved Jonerys with good storyline
And I didnât give it too much attention, you know I stay mostly in my line and donât mess around with shit that doesnât interest me (like Jonerys) but now that I think of itâŚ
Iâll do you all one better (and maybe I am late at the party as always, because I canât be the only one noticing this)
Jonsa is the reversed, evolved, less entitled (both Jon and Sansa start as spoiled characters but have their entitlement beaten out of them pretty soon, and we love them for it), more duty-oriented (thank you Ned) Daemyra.
I mean all signs point in that direction and I see you đ GRRM pushing the Jonsa agenda further on!
And now Iâll tell you what sources I have to base my logic on (and maybe I am wrong ey, but I think it fits Jonsa more, as of now, though Martin could totally disprove me going the other way confronted to the way the show concluded knowing his ending).
So, at the beginning of the story, Robb becomes king in the North by popular demand.
In the first episode Viserys becomes heir (and later king) by popular demand.
Both Robb and Viserys inherit their position by their much beloved predecessor (Jaehaerys and Ned) and both are ânamed/appointedâ by a conclave of lords/ladies in the Riverlands ffs.
Both Viserys and Robb end up planting, with their own politics, the seeds of the shit storm that almost threatens to destroy their family after their death.
Robb marries Jeyne (Talisa in the show) instead of the Frey betrothed thus snubbing the Freys and going back on his word. He dies without an heir leaving the North in shambles when he had been a step from winning the war.
Viserys names Rhaenyra heir and then â instead of marrying the Velaryon girl â marries Alicent and has more children knowing that if they were male it could cause disrupt with the line of succession.
Both are idolised after their death â Viserys taking the name of The Peaceful thanks to the ruling and politics of his Queen and council and Robb by being sanctified by his siblings and lords even tho he was the one causing most of the problems who caused his death and almost destroyed the North â both Viserys and Robb loose their heirs.
Viserys loses his sons by Aemma
Robb dies childless and his heirs (Bran, Rickon, Sansa and Arya) are to his knowledge lost (Bran and Rickon presumed killed, Arya presumed dead and Sansa married to a Lannister).
The heir that remains them, their younger brother/sister (Daemon and Sansa) is not considered worthy of inheriting after them â Daemon for his character and Sansa because she has been married to a Lannister â so both do the same thing, they disinherit their lawful and rightful heir (yes Bran and Rickon and Arya are alive but Robb doesnât know it; Viserys will have Aegon, Aemond, Daeron and Helaena but he doesnât know nor care) to name another as heir someone who, by law, should pass after the rightful heir.
It seems to me like some pretty big parallels here.
Daemon = Sansa
Daemon and Sansa are the second born children of a couple who love each other and apparently their motherâ fav.
And you know whatâs sick? Daemon and Sansa both supported their brotherâ right to any extent.
Daemon readied men-at-arms and sworn swords to defend Viserysâ claim when people rumoured Corlys wanted to assemble a fleet to defend Laenorâ right after Rhaenys.
Sansa bled for the northern independence when in KL and then later â and this is only show for now â Sansa gathered the northern army and put KL under siege to defend her brother. Sansa is the one who decided to rally the lords of the North behind House Stark once again (Jon was done fighting) and she was the one to offer Bran the role of Lord of WF when he returned from Beyond the Wall.
Despite being loyal to their family in their own way, both Daemon and Sansa are disinherited by their king in favor of someone they love but that by law should have come after them.
By succession tradition and law the brother of a king becomes before the daughter of a king â unless women can inherit the throne which was not the case in Westeros at the time â so Daemon came before Rhaenyra in the line of succession, yet Viserys disinherited him to name Rhaenyra heir.
By law and tradition of succession Sansa as the trueborn eldest surviving daughter of Ned and Cat in the evenience of Robb dying without heirs (Bran and Rickon are both presumed dead) comes before Jon, the base born son of Ned Stark. (Jon himself says so âby law Winterfell belongs to my sister, Sansaâ/âWinterfell belongs to my sister, Sansaâ, even though Sansa is a Lannister, a murderess and apparently dissolved in thin air) yet Robb with his will disinherit Sansa to name Jon heir.
Everyone expected Daemon/Sansa to be angry at Jon/Rhaenyra because of it â Rhaenyra herself and the viewer when Jon was named KitN â instead what happened?
Daemon became Rhaenyraâ stauncher supporter and Sansa became Jonâs. Daemon supported Rhaenyra and Sansa supported Jon. When people expected Daemon to lash out when the terms of surrender were issued, he obeyed Rhaenyra order without issue; when the northern lords unsatisfied with Jonâ stay in Dragonstone offered the crown to Sansa, Sansa refused and defended Jonâs claim. All she did in s8 was to defend Jonâs claim to the North and the Realm.
And you know what else is incredible?
Daemon is suspected to have âcausedâ his first wifeâ death and his second wife died in childbirth. Rhea Royce died after a fall from horseback â in the show Daemon kills her, but in the book she dies of the wounds later on, as the hit to the head might have caused her delayed death. Still Daemon is suspected to have caused it â the horse to unseat Rhea â and tried to inherit his wifeâ keep.
Sansa âcausedâ her first betrothed, Joffreyâ death, by telling the truth to Olenna and Margaery which spurned them to have him killed at his own wedding feast. Sansa escapes and her first husband is almost killed for the crime â almost making her a widow.
Both Daemon and Sansa are more skilled than their counterpart in their competence. Daemon is the most skilled warrior of his time, Sansa has learned politics from the best and worst in it.
Daemon finds himself at odds with his brother with the war of the stepstones and Sansa finds herself at odds with her brother whilst in KL as she has to navigate and survive the southern court and Joffrey.
Yet both return to their brother in the end, Sansa by remaining true to her Stark identity (âI am not your daughter, I am the Lord Eddard and lady Catelynâs daughter. The blood of Winterfellâ/ âwhat if it is truth he wants and justice for his lady?â) and Daemon by winning and giving the crown to his brother.
Sansa wins the battle of bastards through her alliance with the Knights of the Vale and lets her brother take the crown.
Sansa and Daemon are both described as beautiful, charming and dashing. But Daemon is mercurial and Sansa is called a witch for her apparent part in Joffreyâ death.
Both Daemon and Sansa are advisors in their capacity to their brother/king though they have to clamor to be recognised any degree of validity. Sansa has to fight to gain the right to be Jonâs advisor even if he chooses Davos as chief advisor as Viserys chose Otto.
Daemonâs children are the one who inherit the Iron throne after the DotD. Sansaâs children will inherit WF and the North after asoiaf is done.
Jon = Rhaenyra
Jon and Rhaenyra are the odd ones out of this.
Rhaenyra knew her place, she prayed for a brother to inherit the Iron throne just like Jon would have died to defend Robb or any of his siblings (and in the book he does die for fakeArya). But both are ambitious.
Rhaenyra accepts she will be queen and makes of it her identity; Jon dreamed of become Lord of Winterfell before he knew what that entailed.
Both Rhaenyra and Jon expect that their orders â despite their intentions â will be followed, even when they go against hundreds of years of tradition. Rhaenyra as Queen and Jon believes the NW will follow to war against the Boltons when the NW has been neutral for thousand of years. And both pay the ultimate price for it. Death.
Jon is killed by his sworn brothers, Rhaenyra is killed by her brotherâs dragon.
Both Rhaenyra and Jon have the temper of their family but they control it for the most part. It takes really big things for it to be spiked. Lukeâs death for example.
Both Rhaenyra and Jon are intertwined with fake relationships. Both cause the death of their first lover/spouse.
Rhaenyra marries Laenor to keep the Velaryon in her corner, Laenor who is a gay man â in the book she is much less understanding of it btw â and their relationship is fake and her children arenât his. In the show she loves him platonically, though I donât remember that being the case in the book. In the end, whether his death is faked or not, Rhaenyra causes that. Either by having him killed â as they say in the book â or by having him fake his death to marry Daemon to strengthen her claim.
Jon has a âfakeâ relationship with Ygritte (you know what I think of her in the book) to make sure his undercover mission is accomplished. In the end Jonâ mission is accomplished and even though he âfell in love with herâ he still left her and the war between them ended up claiming her life.
After the death of the heir â Balon and Bran and Rickon â Rhaenyra and Jon are both raised to the role of heir by their king with a decree that disinherited/snubbed the previous law-ful heir (Sansa/Daemon).
At the same time, Viserys/Robb have other heirs. Viserys marries and has sons (who have sons), Rickon and Bran are both alive though presumed dead who could end up threatening Jonâs claim once the will becomes active after Jonâ return from the dead.
They have sexual tension with the snubbed heir and value them as advisors though they donât always agree with their politics.
Jon feels that Sansaâ opinion demeans him before the Lords â tho he names her regent â and Rhaenyra distrust Daemon not to declare war without her say-so.
And yet both Jon and Rhaenyra gain the ripe of Sansa and Daemonâ loyalty.
Even if Jon and Sansa donât always see eye to eye, Sansa loyalty to Jon is what gets him out of KL alive, without Daemonâ skills as warrior Rhaenyraâ war would have ended long before it started.
Sansa and Daemon both are against Jon and Rhaenyra to surrender their crown, and work to keep the other half in their role.
And you know what? Thereâs more.
Gifts giving â belonging to a House
Daemon and Sansa both have something that defines their belonging to House Stark.
Sansaâs wolf-bit and Daemonâ sword â which, do I have to go down the sexual metaphor about Sansaâ bosom and Daemonâ sword? â and both whilst speaking of heirs/reading to war to defend the claim to the crown gift the other half something that signifies their belonging to the House as well.
Rhaenyraâ necklace and Jonâs cloak. Both items which Rhaenyra and Jon puts on and basically keeps on for ever â like it was a fucking joke how long Jon kept the cloak on even on Dragonstone âalso Rhaenyra necklace resembles a chain (chain of command) and same with Jonâs cloak stripes (which resemble a chain of command).
Rhaenyra confronts Daemon about her being named heir â and perhaps weâll have something similar in the books for Jon and Sansa. Tho we have something akin to that when Arya confronts Sansa about Jon having the crown and Sansa liking the attention.
Yet both Sansa and Daemon stand strong in their loyalty to Jon above anyone else.
Protecting â destroying some of the earliest and greatest threats the other claim
Vaemond is one of the earliest threats to Rhaenyra rule, just as we know LF has been playing against Jon all along, yet both Sansa and Daemon defend the other half by killing the offender.
Arya and Bran serve as the Viserys in the comparison, because itâs Sansa who passes the sentence (as Arya herself points out) the same way as Daemon is the one who decided to kill Vaemond instead of letting Viserys order of having his tongue removed to be carried out.
Thus removing the earliest threat to the other oneâ.
Also, both Daemon and Sansa destroyed indirectly or directly another threat to Jon and Rhaenyra by killing Aemond and Daenerys who had the attitude (both of them) of destroying the Realm to take the Iron throne if needed. Aemond would not have taken Aegonâ claim from him but if Aegon had died of his wounds before Rhaenyra was executed, with Maelor and Jaehaerys dead Aemond stood the greatest threat to Rhaenyra. Daemon killed Aemond and Sansa plotted to have the truth about Daenerys uncovered and indirectly causing her death through Jon.
Supporting the other as ruler
Daemon becomes Rhaenyra supporter just as Sansa becomes Jonâs. Even as snubbed heirs they love the new heir and when the time comes they are there, by their side, defending them.
Also, never forget that Sansa/Daemon are always on the side of the consort when it comes to Jon/Rhaenyra whilst that is not true for other characters, who are always afforded place of importance, but not that of the consort.
When Corlys comments on Viserys lack of action in the Stepstones Daemon replies that he can speak of his brother how he well wishes but that is not the truth for others. Similarly Sansa defends Jon (âheâs our king, heâs doing what he thinks bestâ) even tho she shares the lords preoccupations.
Despite not always seeing eye to eye with Daemon, he is a trusted advisor to Rhaenyra who listens to him. In the same way, despite feeling the need of Sansaâ validation, Sansa is his trusted advisor to the point Jon entrusts the whole of the North to her.
So, yeah, I raise you the Daemyra is the Targaryen version of Jonsa, with Daemon and Rhaenyra being worse people than Jon and Sansa are combined. By ey, thereâs a dark streak to the Starks not to be underestimated.
#Jonsa#Jonsa agenda#Jonsa fam#Jonsa parallels#daemon and Rhaenyra as the Targaryen version of Jon and Sansa#Jonsa vs Daemyra#reverse Daemon and Rhaenyra#daemon = Sansa#Rhaenyra = Jon#I mean itâs right there#I cannot be the only one to see this#Jonxsansa#Daemyra is serving Jonsa vibes#I mean⌠Jon killed his âloverâ for Sansa (we know D was threatening Sansa) just like Rhaenyra killed/had killed her lover to be with Daemon#I mean Daemon used his skills to keep Rhaenyra on the throne and Sansa used her skill to keep Jon alive and safe#If that ainât peak Jonsa vibe I donât know what theyâre supposed to be doing#And if I am right then Sansaâ children should be Jonâs â like Daemonâ sons who inherited the throne were with Rhaenyra
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Sansa making Alayne an "older woman" at fourteen đ¤Jon feeling "fifteen again" at sixteen
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Jon Snow & Sansa Stark Book Parallels & Mentions 1/â : Jealousy about Joffrey
His half sisters escorted the royal princes. Arya was paired with plump young Tommen, whose white-blond hair was longer than hers. Sansa, two years older, drew the crown prince, Joffrey Baratheon. He was twelve, younger than Jon or Robb, but taller than either, to Jon's vast dismay. Prince Joffrey had his sister's hair and his mother's deep green eyes. A thick tangle of blond curls dripped down past his golden choker and high velvet collar. Sansa looked radiant as she walked beside him, but Jon did not like Joffrey's pouty lips or the bored, disdainful way he looked at Winterfell's Great Hall. A Game Of Thrones, Jon I
"Jon says he looks like a girl," Arya said.Sansa sighed as she stitched. "Poor Jon," she said. "He gets jealous because he's a bastard."Â A Game Of Thrones, Arya I
#jonsa#jon x sansa#actuallyjonsa#jon snow#Sansa Stark#house stark#book!jonsa#jonsa parallels#jonsa book parallels serie#my posts#gifs/edits by me#got#game of thrones#gotedits#asoiaf#asoiaf quotes#asoiafedits#a song of ice and fire
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That was interesting post about Jonsa similarities being prophecied to take down the evil queens. One thing can be added about Sansa being prophecied to slay the giant in the 'snow castle'. So the Jonsa are prophecied to take down their evil uncle(LF) and aunt(Dany) and are connected to ice(Wall) and snow(WF). Thoughts?
I love @thewindsofwolves parallel series and that one in particular really caught my attention!
Connecting the slaying the giant prophecy with the YMBQ prophecy is a fun reading because Sansaâs role in Joffreyâs death (taking what Cersei holds dear) is slapped up against the idea of her killing LF:
"I dreamt a wolf howling in the rain, but no one heard his grief," the dwarf woman was saying. "I dreamt such a clangor I thought my head might burst, drums and horns and pipes and screams, but the saddest sound was the little bells. I dreamt of a maid at a feast with purple serpents in her hair, venom dripping from their fangs. And later I dreamt that maid again, slaying a savage giant in a castle built of snow." (ASOS, Arya VIII)
The reading of Sansa being the YMBQ is compelling to me, especially since LF and Cersei occupy evil father/evil stepmother roles for Sansa. Cersei had those quintessential mother/daughter moments with her (instead of Sansaâs own mother getting to talk to her about her first period, having children, talking to her just before her weddingâŚ), and Littlefinger poses as her father/has her pretend to be his daughter, so both prophecies being about their psuedo daughter is fun. In fact, Ned made serious miscalculations with LF and with Cersei, leading to disaster for his family, Sansa in particular who has been a captive of both, so itâs particularly rewarding for her to be the one these prophecies are about.
As for connecting it to Jon potentially taking out Dany, lots of people have pointed out Cersei and Dany parallels, I think I have a post about that lost in drafts somewhere, and Martin even mentioned intentionally creating parallels there, so the fact that they each have a prophecy about their downfall and for it to be about a Stark (Sansa and Jon)...I like it!
A blue flower grew from a chink in a wall of ice, and filled the air with sweetness. . . .(ACOK, Daenerys IV)
Everyone knows this is an allusion to Jon, some take it as a positive/romance thing, we take it as part of her three treasons, but it could very easily be both. Dany, like LF, could take a sexual interest in the child of a person they say they could have married. Obviously, LF's obsession with Cat transferring to Sansa takes up a lot of space, Dany's mention of marrying Rhaegar is only done in passing, but it was an odd thing to include and it does feel a little matchy-matchy. đ
You need to open your inbox, you have a talent for finding these connections, and I should be the one sending asks about them to you!
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Jon and Sansa + parallels/similar thoughts
#which could mean nothing!#but i doubt it. in fact i think it means everything#this has been in the drafts for ages#there are so many more connections i wanted to add (old pomegranate/littlebird and crow/bastardy etc etc but it was already so cramped#web weaving#jonsa#parallels
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thinking about how Sansa lived while Lady died, but Jon died and Ghost lived. And how Jon might come back a bit more wolf than man. And how Robb AND Greywind were killed. The King and his wolf. And now Sansa and Jon are his successors. The blood of Winterfell, a half of their soul having died, while the other lives :(
#jonsa#jonsa rambles#robb stark#sansa stak#jon snow#something something parallel between Greywind's head being sewn to Robb's body#the body of his wolf
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(ASOS, Sansa II)
(ASOS, Jon XII)
#jonsa#jon x sansa#sansa stark#jon snow#donât tell me they mean nothing to each other when they have such glaring parallels#itâs the way no one else in the series has this exact dream to restore Winterfell and have a little starkling family#in the same book mind you !!#the way Robb is the missing piece to Sansaâs fantasy <33#and Jon and Sansa donât mention each other because theyâll be parents#oh the feelings I have#sometimes there was even a girl who looked like arya#and arya is known to resemble Jon really closely#implying that Sansa wants to marry someone of the north with stark features#which makes so much sense for her character arc to BE with someone born and raised in the north#not another random lord to exploit her claim and power#see this is why I wrote a 40 paged meta analysis and compiled it into a PowerPoint#and then presented it to my mother thus converting her into a Jonsa truther#WITHOUT OBJECTION#on a side note I find it so interesting when you talk to someone whoâs neutral on ships and is willing to listen to whatever theory#as objectively possible#because as soon as I pointed all the evidence out to my mum she was like woahhh youâre smart analysis and youâre so correct
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And let us not forget that Sansa fell wildly in love with Ser Waymar.
what is "you will dance with me anon?"
Itâs a callback in Jonâs mind to Alys Karstarkâs dialogue to Jon during her wedding, but with a twist.
The conversation goes something like this
âYou could dance with me, you know. It would be only courteous. You danced with me anon.â
âAnon?â teased Jon.â
Jon X, ADWD
âAnonâ is an old English word which I feel is most closely translated to presently or shortly. Itâs an adverb that denotes a future tense, something that is yet to happen, and Alys uses it in the past tense to say that, âhey we danced just nowâ, which is why Jon teases her.
Jon later thinks back on this moment but uses the correct tense of the word
A snowflake danced upon the air. Then another. Dance with me, Jon Snow, he thought. You'll dance with me anon.
Jon XII, ADWD
To me, this feels like a cry across time a space. Maybe you had the wrong dance partner last time (past tense use of the word anon which is wrong), Jon Snow, next time (the correct usage of anon) it will be the right one.
And also, since anon means soon, I am led to believe that Jon and Sansa will also meet pretty soon (as soon as twow, if my eyes ever have the good luck of seeing its pages), for a dance maybe, literal or metaphorical.
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*Personally decided not to include Sansa & Catelyn, Arya & Ned, or Arya & Lyanna...check below for an explanation
not because I don't think they have a number of paralells but because I feel they really are too frequently compared to one another to be considered underrated...perhaps even overly so and (unfortunately) often in a manner that lacks nuance/serves to misrepresent them/reduces their complexity/or ignores the unique or distinct aspects of these characters.
#house stark#the starks#stark family parallels#stark family feels#stark family#stark siblings#asoiaf/got#crimson cold poll#ned stark#brandon stark#benjen stark#lyanna stark#catelyn stark#robb stark#jon snow#sansa stark#arya stark#kind of jonsa adjacent I guess
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In one of your posts you talk about how wall imagery is used to describe Sansaâs boundaries (her âwall of courtesyâ which deflects Tyrion, an unwanted lover foisted upon her by her situation as a captive in KL). The post also mentioned how Ygritte cried after scaling the wall from fear (the wall again deflecting an unwanted lover foisted upon Jon as a captive of the FF) . So clearly thereâs some associations being made between those two and wall imagery. It got me thinking, isnât there a moment in the books where Jon thinks that Sansaâs eyes would tear up at the sight of the wall in wonder, contrasting Ygritteâs reaction? đ
(my wall of ice tag) (I'm not sure which post you specifically refer to, so I just linked to the tag.)
That quote by Jon is actually not referring to the Wall, but happens quite a bit beyond the Wall near Craster's Keep, where the landscape has been transformed overnight as the rain-soaked surroundings have frozen.
The pale pink light of dawn sparkled on branch and leaf and stone. Every blade of grass was carved from emerald, every drip of water turned to diamond. Flowers and mushrooms alike wore coats of glass. Even the mud puddles had a bright brown sheen. Through the shimmering greenery, the black tents of his brothers were encased in a fine glaze of ice. So there is magic beyond the Wall after all. He found himself thinking of his sisters, perhaps because he'd dreamed of them last night. Sansa would call this an enchantment, and tears would fill her eyes at the wonder of it, but Arya would run out laughing and shouting, wanting to touch it all. (ACOK, Jon III)
While the quote doesn't create a direct contrast between Sansa and Ygritte, it creates a beautiful comparison between Sansa and Jon. One sees "magic", and the other would see "an enchantment". It's GRRM showing us how their aesthetic and romantic sensibilities match pretty well and that Jon actually knows and appreciates this about Sansa. Consider his utterly poetic language here. And we know that Jon is correct in his assessment of Sansa, because we see her respond in this way to other scenes of natural beauty, during the cloud castle scenes and the snowy garden in the Eyrie where she will proceed to build her snow castle. Both of which happen in the dawn light, as well.
Furthermore, the scene is a direct answer to a moment in the previous book:
The little man gestured up at the Wall with a gnarled black walking stick. "As I was saying ⌠why is it that when one man builds a wall, the next man immediately needs to know what's on the other side?" He cocked his head and looked at Jon with his curious mismatched eyes. "You do want to know what's on the other side, don't you?" "It's nothing special," Jon said. He wanted to ride with Benjen Stark on his rangings, deep into the mysteries of the haunted forest, wanted to fight Mance Rayder's wildlings and ward the realm against the Others, but it was better not to speak of the things you wanted. "The rangers say it's just woods and mountains and frozen lakes, with lots of snow and ice." (AGOT, Jon III)
Ironically, this conversation is between Jon and the man who will be Sansa's forced husband and contemplate what's on the other side of her wall of icy politeness.
Tyrion never makes it past the ice wall, either one. Jon discovers magic there, that reminds him of Sansa.
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thereâs a few potential sansa romantic endgames that i think have some textual basis and i think all of them come with a lot of issues wrt sansa being able to publically claim these relationships which is why i think sansa will say her children are âfathered by a wolfâ because regardless of Who sheâs with or even the legality of it, sheâs going to be actively concealing their identity AND YET she needs to have children.
i think especially that even though aryaâs love life is guaranteed to be less complicated, sansa will feel obligated to take this âburdenâ of ensuring their line onto herself; she wants arya to have the freedom to go where she pleases, be with who she pleases, and follow her passions and that is not easy to do if everyone is expecting you to come home and start popping out kids. I consider them a sort of reflection of ned and lyanna in this way in that sansa, second born and not meant to rule, uses her newfound power to let the wild, youngest girl (but not youngest child) in the family follow her passions wherever they may take her.
this is all kind of weird with the nixed time jump but considering that george has talked about writing stories from aryaâs pov about her adventures, I think itâs going to be fairly important in story regardless of their ages that arya will attempt to offer to stay home and marry and have children as a way of helping to protect sansaâs very shaky claim on winterfell but that sansa encourages arya to do whatever she wants. to travel, to help shepherd the boatloads of refugees from the various wars to wherever they want to call home, to settle displaced northerners in other parts of westeros as well, to get involved in the lives of the people arya is helping and agree to help them liberate their own homes by using her skills (crucial here that arya is A leader but not the SOLE leader), or to go out into the woods and be a secret not-quite-an-outlaw (bc sansa isnât outlawing anything that could hurt aryaâs lil crusades, probably is helping bankroll arya) to bring justice to the smallfolk, like whatever it is arya wants to do with her life, the point is that she offers to give it up and sansa refuses to take the offer.
and then we have the idea that her kids are fathered by a wolf. not elizabeth-ing herself here exactly because sheâs having children but never publicly acknowledging a father or a husband or even a lover.
i think the candidates most likely are jon snow and theon, with both brienne and podrick as like âiâm not saying heâs gonna do it but i am saying they make a lot of sense narrativelyâ and aegon vi as a huge long shot but still undeniable contender. if briensa does go canon everyone owes me five bucks each tho. i think the options other people float are not just wildly unserious they also clearly donât think sansa will be The Ruling Lady Of Winterfell, but some much more minor or less emotionally resonant title and i just do not vibe with that shit at all. harry the heir, sandor, sweetrobin, tyrion, littlefucker, like never mind sansa never once showing any real interest in these guys and NONE of these dudes being satisfied by the idea of being her secret husband, if sansa says to arya âyeah iâm marrying tyrionâ arya is going âblink twice if youâre being held hostage and you need me to kill himâ but itâs too late because jon snow is already unsheathing longclaw and bran is attacking with every raven in winterfell. itâs not fucking happening and imo itâs unserious to pretend like it could happen in canon. (and if it DOES happen in canon you will find me rocking up to georgeâs house in jersey and demanding to know why heâs so weird about teenage girls). i think margaery is a huge long shot here (and not just bc it would make them both canonically on screen gay) because i donât think sheâs gonna live to the ending, and jeyne poole is too traumatized at this point in time for me to feel confident in putting her in the same category as brienne and pod.
(theonâs trauma is WHY i think heâs still a contender - post reek theon is going to struggle a lot with figuring out where heâs supposed to be, who heâs supposed to be, and who he can trust as he puts himself back together, and that lends itself nicely to the idea of a secret husband/lover imo. once again, we are talking extreme trauma bonding here - thatâs just the only way i see sansaâs romances going).
if youâre asking âwho do you think arya is winding up withâ itâs gendry. i donât doubt that there were some plans for edric dayne, arya, and gendry but i think gendry was always going to be her great love here, that sheâs always going to turn down the idea of marriage to him but gendry doesnât care so long as they are still together. thereâs a neon blinking sign over gendryâs head that says âendgame materialâ and i think itâs unserious to pretend itâs not there too!!
#again my conspiracy here is that he canât do all the rhaegar/lyanna/robert/ned/ashara/cat paralleling he would like and itâs thrown him off#thatâs my rant of the day aksjdj#getting on my soap box#theonsa#jonsa#briensa#jeynsa#whatâs the pod sansa name i always forget#the sun and moon in endless chase
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from "Jon is Jon. Heâll keep me safe. I trust him." to "I wonât ever let him touch you again. Iâll protect you, I promise." đđ
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"At a lord's court the girl would never have been considered anything but common, he knew. She had a round peasant face, a pug nose, and slightly crooked teeth, and her eyes were too far apart. Jon had noticed all that the first time he'd seen her, when his dirk had been at her throat. Lately, though, he was noticing some other things. When she grinned, the crooked teeth didn't seem to matter. And maybe her eyes were too far apart, but they were a pretty blue-grey color, and lively as any eyes he knew. Sometimes she sang in a low husky voice that stirred him. And sometimes by the cookfire when she sat hugging her knees with the flames waking echoes in her red hair, and looked at him, just smiling . . . well, that stirred some things as well." - Jon II, ASOS
"She had fallen wildly in love with Ser Waymar, she remembered dimly, but that was a lifetime ago, when she was a stupid little girl." - Alayne I, AFFC
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I mentioned in this ask that Jon is in a similar position with Ygritte (a captive being forced into a âmarriageâ) as Sansa is with Tyrion. And, in addition to the general similarities, when they both are âmarriedâ (Sansa officially, Jon by giving in and having sex) there is this:
âTwo hearts that beat as one. Mance Rayderâs mocking words rang bitter in his head. Jon had seldom felt so confused.â (ASOS, Jon III)
ââHere in the sight of gods and men,â he said, âI do solemnly proclaim Tyrion of House Lannister and Sansa of House Stark to be man and wife, one flesh, one heart, one soul, now and forever, and cursed be the one who comes between them.ââ (ASOS, Sansa III)
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Kovu x Kiara ~ Nashuri
Loki x Sigyn ~ Beauty and the Beast
Hades x Persephone ~ Xibalba x La Muerte ( Book of Life )
Jonsa ~ Link x Zelda
Marc Spector x Layla El Faouly ~ O'Connell x Evie ( The Mummy )
#shipping parallels#jonsa#link x zelda#rick x evie#marc x layla#nashuri#kiara x kovu#hades x Persephone#logyn#beauty and the beast
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SnowStone Week 2023 : day three â Fairy Tale
#jon snow#sansa stark#jon x sansa#jonsa#peau d'âne#donkey skin#source: peau d'âne (1970)#source: donkey skin (1970)#source: a storm of swords#source: a feast for crows#source: a dance with dragons#source: game of thrones#asoiaf x donkey skin#kinda#asoiaf parallels#asoiaf edits#made by me#tw inc*st#tw sa#tw child abuse#snowstoneweek#jonsaweek2023
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