#daemon and Rhaenyra as the Targaryen version of Jon and Sansa

[reginarubie]

When HotD got out everyone was like Oh, Daemyra is the new, improved Jonerys with good storyline

And I didn’t give it too much attention, you know I stay mostly in my line and don’t mess around with shit that doesn’t interest me (like Jonerys) but now that I think of it…

I’ll do you all one better (and maybe I am late at the party as always, because I can’t be the only one noticing this)

Jonsa is the reversed, evolved, less entitled (both Jon and Sansa start as spoiled characters but have their entitlement beaten out of them pretty soon, and we love them for it), more duty-oriented (thank you Ned) Daemyra.

I mean all signs point in that direction and I see you 👀 GRRM pushing the Jonsa agenda further on!

And now I’ll tell you what sources I have to base my logic on (and maybe I am wrong ey, but I think it fits Jonsa more, as of now, though Martin could totally disprove me going the other way confronted to the way the show concluded knowing his ending).

So, at the beginning of the story, Robb becomes king in the North by popular demand.

In the first episode Viserys becomes heir (and later king) by popular demand.

Both Robb and Viserys inherit their position by their much beloved predecessor (Jaehaerys and Ned) and both are ‘named/appointed’ by a conclave of lords/ladies in the Riverlands ffs.

Both Viserys and Robb end up planting, with their own politics, the seeds of the shit storm that almost threatens to destroy their family after their death.

Robb marries Jeyne (Talisa in the show) instead of the Frey betrothed thus snubbing the Freys and going back on his word. He dies without an heir leaving the North in shambles when he had been a step from winning the war.

Viserys names Rhaenyra heir and then — instead of marrying the Velaryon girl — marries Alicent and has more children knowing that if they were male it could cause disrupt with the line of succession.

Both are idolised after their death — Viserys taking the name of The Peaceful thanks to the ruling and politics of his Queen and council and Robb by being sanctified by his siblings and lords even tho he was the one causing most of the problems who caused his death and almost destroyed the North — both Viserys and Robb loose their heirs.

Viserys loses his sons by Aemma

Robb dies childless and his heirs (Bran, Rickon, Sansa and Arya) are to his knowledge lost (Bran and Rickon presumed killed, Arya presumed dead and Sansa married to a Lannister).

The heir that remains them, their younger brother/sister (Daemon and Sansa) is not considered worthy of inheriting after them — Daemon for his character and Sansa because she has been married to a Lannister — so both do the same thing, they disinherit their lawful and rightful heir (yes Bran and Rickon and Arya are alive but Robb doesn’t know it; Viserys will have Aegon, Aemond, Daeron and Helaena but he doesn’t know nor care) to name another as heir someone who, by law, should pass after the rightful heir.

It seems to me like some pretty big parallels here.

Daemon = Sansa

Daemon and Sansa are the second born children of a couple who love each other and apparently their mother’ fav.

And you know what’s sick? Daemon and Sansa both supported their brother’ right to any extent.

Daemon readied men-at-arms and sworn swords to defend Viserys’ claim when people rumoured Corlys wanted to assemble a fleet to defend Laenor’ right after Rhaenys.

Sansa bled for the northern independence when in KL and then later — and this is only show for now — Sansa gathered the northern army and put KL under siege to defend her brother. Sansa is the one who decided to rally the lords of the North behind House Stark once again (Jon was done fighting) and she was the one to offer Bran the role of Lord of WF when he returned from Beyond the Wall.

Despite being loyal to their family in their own way, both Daemon and Sansa are disinherited by their king in favor of someone they love but that by law should have come after them.

By succession tradition and law the brother of a king becomes before the daughter of a king — unless women can inherit the throne which was not the case in Westeros at the time — so Daemon came before Rhaenyra in the line of succession, yet Viserys disinherited him to name Rhaenyra heir.

By law and tradition of succession Sansa as the trueborn eldest surviving daughter of Ned and Cat in the evenience of Robb dying without heirs (Bran and Rickon are both presumed dead) comes before Jon, the base born son of Ned Stark. (Jon himself says so “by law Winterfell belongs to my sister, Sansa”/“Winterfell belongs to my sister, Sansa”, even though Sansa is a Lannister, a murderess and apparently dissolved in thin air) yet Robb with his will disinherit Sansa to name Jon heir.

Everyone expected Daemon/Sansa to be angry at Jon/Rhaenyra because of it — Rhaenyra herself and the viewer when Jon was named KitN — instead what happened?

Daemon became Rhaenyra’ stauncher supporter and Sansa became Jon’s. Daemon supported Rhaenyra and Sansa supported Jon. When people expected Daemon to lash out when the terms of surrender were issued, he obeyed Rhaenyra order without issue; when the northern lords unsatisfied with Jon’ stay in Dragonstone offered the crown to Sansa, Sansa refused and defended Jon’s claim. All she did in s8 was to defend Jon’s claim to the North and the Realm.

And you know what else is incredible?

Daemon is suspected to have “caused” his first wife’ death and his second wife died in childbirth. Rhea Royce died after a fall from horseback — in the show Daemon kills her, but in the book she dies of the wounds later on, as the hit to the head might have caused her delayed death. Still Daemon is suspected to have caused it — the horse to unseat Rhea — and tried to inherit his wife’ keep.

Sansa “caused” her first betrothed, Joffrey’ death, by telling the truth to Olenna and Margaery which spurned them to have him killed at his own wedding feast. Sansa escapes and her first husband is almost killed for the crime — almost making her a widow.

Both Daemon and Sansa are more skilled than their counterpart in their competence. Daemon is the most skilled warrior of his time, Sansa has learned politics from the best and worst in it.

Daemon finds himself at odds with his brother with the war of the stepstones and Sansa finds herself at odds with her brother whilst in KL as she has to navigate and survive the southern court and Joffrey.

Yet both return to their brother in the end, Sansa by remaining true to her Stark identity (“I am not your daughter, I am the Lord Eddard and lady Catelyn’s daughter. The blood of Winterfell”/ “what if it is truth he wants and justice for his lady?”) and Daemon by winning and giving the crown to his brother.

Sansa wins the battle of bastards through her alliance with the Knights of the Vale and lets her brother take the crown.

Sansa and Daemon are both described as beautiful, charming and dashing. But Daemon is mercurial and Sansa is called a witch for her apparent part in Joffrey’ death.

Both Daemon and Sansa are advisors in their capacity to their brother/king though they have to clamor to be recognised any degree of validity. Sansa has to fight to gain the right to be Jon’s advisor even if he chooses Davos as chief advisor as Viserys chose Otto.

Daemon’s children are the one who inherit the Iron throne after the DotD. Sansa’s children will inherit WF and the North after asoiaf is done.

Jon = Rhaenyra

Jon and Rhaenyra are the odd ones out of this.

Rhaenyra knew her place, she prayed for a brother to inherit the Iron throne just like Jon would have died to defend Robb or any of his siblings (and in the book he does die for fakeArya). But both are ambitious.

Rhaenyra accepts she will be queen and makes of it her identity; Jon dreamed of become Lord of Winterfell before he knew what that entailed.

Both Rhaenyra and Jon expect that their orders — despite their intentions — will be followed, even when they go against hundreds of years of tradition. Rhaenyra as Queen and Jon believes the NW will follow to war against the Boltons when the NW has been neutral for thousand of years. And both pay the ultimate price for it. Death.

Jon is killed by his sworn brothers, Rhaenyra is killed by her brother’s dragon.

Both Rhaenyra and Jon have the temper of their family but they control it for the most part. It takes really big things for it to be spiked. Luke’s death for example.

Both Rhaenyra and Jon are intertwined with fake relationships. Both cause the death of their first lover/spouse.

Rhaenyra marries Laenor to keep the Velaryon in her corner, Laenor who is a gay man — in the book she is much less understanding of it btw — and their relationship is fake and her children aren’t his. In the show she loves him platonically, though I don’t remember that being the case in the book. In the end, whether his death is faked or not, Rhaenyra causes that. Either by having him killed — as they say in the book — or by having him fake his death to marry Daemon to strengthen her claim.

Jon has a “fake” relationship with Ygritte (you know what I think of her in the book) to make sure his undercover mission is accomplished. In the end Jon’ mission is accomplished and even though he “fell in love with her” he still left her and the war between them ended up claiming her life.

After the death of the heir — Balon and Bran and Rickon — Rhaenyra and Jon are both raised to the role of heir by their king with a decree that disinherited/snubbed the previous law-ful heir (Sansa/Daemon).

At the same time, Viserys/Robb have other heirs. Viserys marries and has sons (who have sons), Rickon and Bran are both alive though presumed dead who could end up threatening Jon’s claim once the will becomes active after Jon’ return from the dead.

They have sexual tension with the snubbed heir and value them as advisors though they don’t always agree with their politics.

Jon feels that Sansa’ opinion demeans him before the Lords — tho he names her regent — and Rhaenyra distrust Daemon not to declare war without her say-so.

And yet both Jon and Rhaenyra gain the ripe of Sansa and Daemon’ loyalty.

Even if Jon and Sansa don’t always see eye to eye, Sansa loyalty to Jon is what gets him out of KL alive, without Daemon’ skills as warrior Rhaenyra’ war would have ended long before it started.

Sansa and Daemon both are against Jon and Rhaenyra to surrender their crown, and work to keep the other half in their role.

And you know what? There’s more.

Gifts giving — belonging to a House

Daemon and Sansa both have something that defines their belonging to House Stark.

Sansa’s wolf-bit and Daemon’ sword — which, do I have to go down the sexual metaphor about Sansa’ bosom and Daemon’ sword? — and both whilst speaking of heirs/reading to war to defend the claim to the crown gift the other half something that signifies their belonging to the House as well.

Rhaenyra’ necklace and Jon’s cloak. Both items which Rhaenyra and Jon puts on and basically keeps on for ever — like it was a fucking joke how long Jon kept the cloak on even on Dragonstone —also Rhaenyra necklace resembles a chain (chain of command) and same with Jon’s cloak stripes (which resemble a chain of command).

Rhaenyra confronts Daemon about her being named heir — and perhaps we’ll have something similar in the books for Jon and Sansa. Tho we have something akin to that when Arya confronts Sansa about Jon having the crown and Sansa liking the attention.

Yet both Sansa and Daemon stand strong in their loyalty to Jon above anyone else.

Protecting — destroying some of the earliest and greatest threats the other claim

Vaemond is one of the earliest threats to Rhaenyra rule, just as we know LF has been playing against Jon all along, yet both Sansa and Daemon defend the other half by killing the offender.

Arya and Bran serve as the Viserys in the comparison, because it’s Sansa who passes the sentence (as Arya herself points out) the same way as Daemon is the one who decided to kill Vaemond instead of letting Viserys order of having his tongue removed to be carried out.

Thus removing the earliest threat to the other one’.

Also, both Daemon and Sansa destroyed indirectly or directly another threat to Jon and Rhaenyra by killing Aemond and Daenerys who had the attitude (both of them) of destroying the Realm to take the Iron throne if needed. Aemond would not have taken Aegon’ claim from him but if Aegon had died of his wounds before Rhaenyra was executed, with Maelor and Jaehaerys dead Aemond stood the greatest threat to Rhaenyra. Daemon killed Aemond and Sansa plotted to have the truth about Daenerys uncovered and indirectly causing her death through Jon.

Supporting the other as ruler

Daemon becomes Rhaenyra supporter just as Sansa becomes Jon’s. Even as snubbed heirs they love the new heir and when the time comes they are there, by their side, defending them.

Also, never forget that Sansa/Daemon are always on the side of the consort when it comes to Jon/Rhaenyra whilst that is not true for other characters, who are always afforded place of importance, but not that of the consort.

When Corlys comments on Viserys lack of action in the Stepstones Daemon replies that he can speak of his brother how he well wishes but that is not the truth for others. Similarly Sansa defends Jon (“he’s our king, he’s doing what he thinks best”) even tho she shares the lords preoccupations.

Despite not always seeing eye to eye with Daemon, he is a trusted advisor to Rhaenyra who listens to him. In the same way, despite feeling the need of Sansa’ validation, Sansa is his trusted advisor to the point Jon entrusts the whole of the North to her.

So, yeah, I raise you the Daemyra is the Targaryen version of Jonsa, with Daemon and Rhaenyra being worse people than Jon and Sansa are combined. By ey, there’s a dark streak to the Starks not to be underestimated.

[agentrouka-blog]

Do you think that the Dance is also meant to be a foreshadowing for the books like D vs fA or Jon? Because I feel like with how the story is centered to the Starks, whoever gains their support (obv Jon if he joins 😂) will win and we get to have a second hour of the wolf

Let's put it this way: The main novel series is the point, and the Dance of Dragons is a result of its existence, it is fictional historical backstory that is meant to inform, illustrate and foreshadow the events of the main series.

The first book of the main novel series was published in 1996. It already contained references to the Dance of the Dragons, and they reappear sprinkled through the series, increasing in detail and relevance.

What is interesting is that the thing most emphasized about the Dance in the main series is the intra-family strife. Brother v. sister - and transcribed into the kingsguard: brother against brother, metaphorical and literal.

Bran was going to be a knight himself someday, one of the Kingsguard. [...] Bran knew all the stories. [...] The twins Ser Erryk and Ser Arryk, who had died on one another's swords hundreds of years ago, when brother fought sister in the war the singers called the Dance of the Dragons. (AGOT, Bran II)

It's a popular, high-culture piece of music that plays on the multiple perspectives of the historical event.

Later, while Sansa was off listening to a troupe of singers perform the complex round of interwoven ballads called the "Dance of the Dragons," Ned inspected the bruise himself. (AGOT, Eddard VII)

A Clash of Kings (1998) contains no reference, though you could consider the entire developing civil war to be an answer to that first reference.

A Storm of Swords (2000) picks it up again in much greater detail.

Stannis - notably having killed his brother over the throne - emphasizes the aspect of treason while discussing the fate of his wife's uncle Alester Florent.

"It has always been so. I am not . . . I am not a cruel man, Ser Davos. You know me. Have known me long. This is not my decree. It has always been so, since Aegon's day and before. Daemon Blackfyre, the brothers Toyne, the Vulture King, Grand Maester Hareth . . . traitors have always paid with their lives . . . even Rhaenyra Targaryen. She was daughter to one king and mother to two more, yet she died a traitor's death for trying to usurp her brother's crown. It is law. Law, Davos. Not cruelty." (ASOS, Davos IV)

The song makes another appearance at Joffrey's wedding, once again emphasizing that it is a complex story from multiple perspectives. Also setting up the inter-Lannister collapse that has been brewing for a while and explodes with Joffrey's murder.

Collio began with his version of "The Dance of the Dragons," which was more properly a song for two singers, male and female.  (ASOS, Tyrion VIII)

Jaime brings it back around to the kingsguard pseudo-brotherhood, which mirrors the inter-family aspect of the civil war.

The old and the new. Jaime wondered if that meant anything. There had been times during its history where the Kingsguard had been divided against itself, most notably and bitterly during the Dance of the Dragons. Was that something he needed to fear as well? (ASOS, Jaime VIII)

Given the mess that is made of the kingsguard in the coming book in KL and in Dorne... yes, Jaime.

By AFFC (2005) GRRM firmly establishes the Dance as a historical reference for destructive civil war over feuding siblings.

And the songs he chose . . . He sang of the Dance of the Dragons, of fair Jonquil and her fool, of Jenny of Oldstones and the Prince of Dragonflies. He sang of betrayals, and murders most foul, of hanged men and bloody vengeance. He sang of grief and sadness. (AFFC, Sansa I)

It also turns the focus on Criston Cole as an alleged external engineer of such strife. Interestingly, his arms resemble a ladybug, Targaryen colors but not Targaryen.

"Most deserve to be forgotten. The heroes will always be remembered. The best." "The best and the worst." So one of us is like to live in song. "And a few who were a bit of both. Like him." He tapped the page he had been reading. "Who?" Ser Loras craned his head around to see. "Ten black pellets on a scarlet field. I do not know those arms." "They belonged to Criston Cole, who served the first Viserys and the second Aegon." Jaime closed the White Book. "They called him Kingmaker." (AFFC, Jaime II)

Contrasting to Stannis, Arianne uses the Dance as an example of treason from the other side, trying to manipulate kingsguard Arys Oakheart into supporting her coup against her father and brother, even though by Dornish custom her role would more rightly resemble that of Aegon II because she is the legal heir and believes her father to favor second-born Quentyn. Notably, Criston Cole is blamed over all Targaryen's involved. Ridiculous but probably significant.

Ser Criston Cole. Criston the Kingmaker had set brother against sister and divided the Kingsguard against itself, bringing on the terrible war the singers named the Dance of the Dragons. Some claimed he acted from ambition, for Prince Aegon was more tractable than his willful older sister. Others allowed him nobler motives, and argued that he was defending ancient Andal custom. A few whispered that Ser Criston had been Princess Rhaenyra's lover before he took the white and wanted vengeance on the woman who had spurned him. "The Kingmaker wrought grave harm," Ser Arys said, "and gravely did he pay for it, but . . ." (AFFC, The Soiled Knight)

Quite fittingly, Arianne's own little "dance" ends with horror and death and deep regret on her side, while poor Quentyn is busy on the other side of the planet.

Meanwhile, GRRM keeps the subject current in ADWD (2011) after Tyrion joins the entourage of "Young Griff", mixing in a reminder of different perspective on historical events. And some dragonslaying. Clearly, he has compiled a lot of detailed backstory for this civil war by now.

Haldon was unimpressed. "Even Duck knows that tale. Can you tell me the name of the knight who tried the same ploy with Vhagar during the Dance of the Dragons?" Tyrion grinned. "Ser Byron Swann. He was roasted for his trouble … only the dragon was Syrax, not Vhagar." "I fear that you're mistaken. In The Dance of the Dragons, A True Telling, Maester Munkun writes—" "—that it was Vhagar. Grand Maester Munkun errs. Ser Byron's squire saw his master die, and wrote his daughter of the manner of it. His account says it was Syrax, Rhaenyra's she-dragon, which makes more sense than Munken's version. Swann was the son of a marcher lord, and Storm's End was for Aegon. Vhagar was ridden by Prince Aemond, Aegon's brother. Why should Swann want to slay her?" (ADWD, Tyrion III)

Dragonslaying comes up again in the context of Hazzea and the effects of dragons in general.

If I look back, I am doomed, Dany told herself … but how could she not look back? I should have seen it coming. Was I so blind, or did I close my eyes willfully, so I would not have to see the price of power? Viserys had told her all the tales when she was little. He loved to talk of dragons. She knew how Harrenhal had fallen. She knew about the Field of Fire and the Dance of the Dragons. One of her forebears, the third Aegon, had seen his own mother devoured by his uncle's dragon. And there were songs beyond count of villages and kingdoms that lived in dread of dragons till some brave dragonslayer rescued them. At Astapor the slaver's eyes had melted. On the road to Yunkai, when Daario tossed the heads of Sallor the Bald and Prendahl na Ghezn at her feet, her children made a feast of them. Dragons had no fear of men. And a dragon large enough to gorge on sheep could take a child just as easily. (ADWD, Daenerys II)

In a telling twist on the name that pulls it directly into the present and likely future, we look at burned Quentyn:

After the girl was gone, the old knight peeled back the coverlet for one last look at Quentyn Martell's face, or what remained of it. So much of the prince's flesh had sloughed away that he could see the skull beneath. His eyes were pools of pus. He should have stayed in Dorne. He should have stayed a frog. Not all men are meant to dance with dragons. (ADWD, The Queen's Hand)

Which echoes again with Arianne in her TWOW sample chapters (2010-ish), which (interestingly) also flesh out her relationship with Daemon Sand, an intentional reference to a prominent character in the dance linked to Rhaenyra.

"Once we know beyond a doubt whether these be friends or foes, my father will know what to do," the princess said. It was then that pasty, pudgy Teora raised her eyes from the creamcakes on her plate. "It is dragons." "Dragons?" said her mother. "Teora, don't be mad." "I'm not. They're coming." "How could you possibly know that?" her sister asked, with a note of scorn in her voice. "One of your little dreams?" Teora gave a tiny nod, chin trembling. "They were dancing. In my dream. And everywhere the dragons danced the people died."

Much like with Daenerys, this reference emphasizes the destructive effects of the dragon-based civil war.

Since Arianne's little stint as pseudo-Rhaenyra went nowhere, but the Dance references remain thick and strong, we can likely look at her upcoming connection to Aegon as the point of it all.

Incidentally, GRRM has already set up their future conflict:

Now, how do you suppose this queen will react when you turn up with your begging bowl in hand and say, 'Good morrow to you, Auntie. I am your nephew, Aegon, returned from the dead. I've been hiding on a poleboat all my life, but now I've washed the blue dye from my hair and I'd like a dragon, please … and oh, did I mention, my claim to the Iron Throne is stronger than your own?' " (ADWD, Tyrion VI)

This places Tyrion into the role of a Cole-figure, hilariously, having pushed Aegon into changing direction to claim the throne directly without Dany.

There's the strife between family members, kingsguards, factions, and manipulative third parties, all over a throne that really isn't worth it, told from multiple perspectives, bringing misery and destruction to the smallfolk.

All the extra material on the Dance of Dragons was published after ADWD, from A World of Ice and Fire (2014) to the novellas (2013-2024) to Fire and Blood (2018), with one small reference to the extinction of the dragons after the Dance in The Mystery Knight (2010). So all this backstory was compiled and built up in the service of of the main story GRRM is telling.

You rightfully bring up Jon, Daenerys and Aegon all together, but it's extremely unlikely that Jon Snow is going to be a driving factor in a Dance of Dragons 2.0 because he will only just find out that he has Targaryen ancestry, and in a way that puts him it in conflict with her Stark ancestry.

No, this war is going to be between two established family members who both have claims and means alongside the ambition to ascend the Iron Throne. Not quite brother v. sister but aunt v. nephew. Tragic, destructive, self-destructive. Much like what the Baratheon brothers have served us before. Only with dragons involved on Dany's side, while Aegon mixes it up by simultaneously representing the Dornish side of the story, through his mother Elia - which is a whole different kettle of fish.

Jon's presence in there is probably going to be a very interesting complicating factor that might go in many different directions, with mirrors to Robb's Will and Stannis' offer of legitimization (another theme in the Dance), to accusations of manipulation and ambition (Criston Cole). The role of the prophecy is also going to be explored in all its myopic self-destructive emptiness.

This won't be a copy of the first Dance, though.

If there is an Hour of the Wolf, it's going to preside not over scarred survivors, but over the ashes and corpses of King's Landing and the Targaryen legacy in Westeros.

[astarionposting]

Since there has been quite a lot of support and excitement surrounding my bg3 presets (THANK YOU BY THE WAY I AM SO HAPPY AND JUST AAAAAA), I thought I would list some of the presets I plan on doing and releasing (if they work out well)

GOT/HOTD

- Daenerys Targaryen (almost completed)

- Daemon Targaryen (still needs some work and a lot of texture work)

- Missandei

- Laena Velaryon (I am still deciding if I want to do her teenager version or adult version)

- Alicent Hightower (I have a personal one but I’m going to redo it and make my own texture since the one I used belongs to Alojie)

- Sansa Stark

- Jaime Lannister

- Young Rhaenyra (if I can do it, Milly’s face is very soft and young with not very prominent features, it may be difficult for me lol)

- Jon Snow

- Ygritte

LOTR

- Thranduil/the elven king

- Legolas

- Arwen (maybe)

The Witcher (Show)

- Geralt played by Henry Cavill

- MAYBE Yennefer, I think she’s very pretty in the show but she might be a challenge

If anyone has any other suggestions, I am happy to hear them and consider 😊

[rhaenyrastark]

ships i like from got and hotd

i am very much a multi-shipper when it comes to the universe GRRM has written, i do have to say however there is one ship that i really dislike and will NEVER read; Jonerys (Jon Snow/Daenerys Targaryen), i always stop reading when this ship is mentioned in fanfiction and i will unfollow blogs that ship it. i ship people that i think would be good or interesting together (or if i just like both characters and would find them cute together)

got (game of thrones)

Jon Snow/Sansa Stark

Jon Snow/Ygritte

Samwell Tarly/Gilly

Khal Drogo/Daenerys Targaryen (i know this one is a bit controversial but i found them so cute by the end)

Sansa Stark/Tyrion Lannister

Jorah Mormont/Daenerys Targaryen (more tv show than the books)

Margaery Tyrell/Sansa Stark

Oberyn Martell/Ellaria Sand (just make Ellaria her season 4 characterisation or book ver because she is so weird in the tv show after s4)

Oberyn Martell/Sansa Stark

Oberyn Martell/Sansa Stark/Ellaria Sand (in a triangle type polyamorous relationship, i dislike reading v-shaped relationships)

Bran Stark/Meera Reed

Rickon Stark/Shireen Baratheon

Gendry Waters/Arya Stark

Sandor Clegane/Sansa Stark

Jon Snow/Arya Stark

Jon Snow/Robb Stark

Myranda/Ramsay Bolton (i love evil people with evil people that enable them to do more evil)

Trystane Martell/Myrcella Baratheon

Tormund Giantsbane/Brienne of Tarth

Talisa Maegyr/Robb Stark (i love Talisa, i thought their love story was such a cute thing from the show)

Arya Stark/Tywin Lannister (give me grown up version of Arya with Tywin, especially if they make the harrenhal scenes canon, *chef's kiss*)

Arya Stark/Jaqen H'ghar

Missandei/Grey Worm

Missandei/Daenerys Targaryen

Jaime Lannister/Cersei Lannister (toxic but they died in each others arms, tv show only)

Jaime Lannister/Brienne of Tarth

Mirri Maz Duur/Revenge (Mirri deserved her revenge even if it inconvenienced Dany a bit)

Catelyn Tully/Ned Stark

Elia Martell/Rhaegar Targaryen/Lyanna Stark (i can only get behind Rhaegar/Lyanna if Elia is there with them and they all survive, otherwise its just shipping 2 people that started a rebellion because they didn't tell anyone what they were doing or a guy who stole and raped a women. Elia basically deserved better)

Aegon VI Targaryen (Young Griff)/Sansa Stark

Aegon VI Targaryen (Young Griff)/Arya Stark

Robb Stark/Roslin Frey

Loras Tyrell/Renly Baratheon

Stannis Baratheon/Davos Seaworth

Sansa Stark/Theon Greyjoy

hotd (house of the dragon)

DAEMON TARGARYEN/RHAENYRA TARGARYEN (i will ship this until the day i die)

Daemon Targaryen/Laena Velaryon

Daemon Targaryen/Laena Velaryon/Rhaenyra Targaryen

Rhaenyra Targaryen/Laena Velaryon

Rhaenyra Targaryen/Harwin Strong

Rhaenyra Targaryen/Daemon Targaryen/Harwin Strong

Rhaenyra Targaryen/Daemon Targaryen/Harwin Strong/Laena Velaryon

Rhaenyra Targaryen/Laena Velaryon/Harwin Strong

Rhaenyra Targaryen/Laenor Velaryon/Harwin Strong

Rhaenyra Targaryen/Daemon Targaryen/Laenor Velaryon

Rhaenyra Targaryen/Laena Velaryon/Laenor Velaryon/Daemon Targaryen

Rhaenyra Targaryen/Laena Velaryon/Laenor Velaryon/Harwin Strong

Rhaenyra Targaryen/Daemon Targaryen/Laenor Velaryon/Laena Velaryon/Harwin Strong

Laenor Velaryon/Daemon Targaryen

Harwin Strong/Daemon Targaryen

Laenor Velaryon/Harwin Strong

BASICALLY IF YOU COULDN'T TELL FROM THE ABSOLUTE LIST ABOVE I SHIP THE 5 (Rhaenyra, Laena, Daemon, Laenor, Harwin) IN ANY COMBINATION POSSIBLE BUT I CAN'T THINK OF ANY MORE COMBINATIONS RIGHT NOW

Aegon II Targaryen/Rhaenyra Targaryen/Daemon Targaryen

Aemond Targaryen/Helaena Targaryen

Baela Targaryen/Jacaerys Velaryon

Rhaena Targaryen/Lucerys Velaryon

Jacaerys Targaryen/Cregan Stark/Baela Targaryen (again in a triangle not a v)

Baela Targaryen/Lucerys Velaryon

Rhaena Targaryen/Jacaerys Velaryon

Aegon III Targaryen/Daenaera Velaryon

Aemond Targaryen/Lucerys Velaryon (only in very specific circumstances; (1) when Aemond turns to team Black/doesn't fight for team Green, (2) when Rhaenyra is guaranteed to become Queen in the fic or (3) non-canon compliant e.g. no killing Lucerys, etc.)

Alicent Hightower/Criston Cole (they deserve each other, both sexually repressed and doing things for 'duty' sake)

Corlys Velaryon/Rhaenys Targaryen

Laenor Velaryon/Joffrey Lonmouth

Laenor Velaryon/Qarl Correy

[wylldebee]

Ye Olde Magick AU Headcanons

Ye Olde Magick AU: X and X

As always thank @books-n-guns for helping making this AU!

— The Starks and Mormonts of old used to wrestle. Wolf vs Bear! Once the Karstarks were made they also joined in. It was made a tournament back then, but as the magic in their veins waned and the Starks stopped getting their claws they stopped. — The Arryns have this Rite of Passage where they jump off the highest tower of the Eyrie, plummet down as low to the ground as they can, and then swoop upwards. The closer to the ground you are before you do, the most bragging rights you get. Aemma Targaryen still holds the record. Robert used to have such pride in that before the war. — Aemma used to have the most beautiful scaled and feather wings and also back muscles like damn. Absolutely beautiful. Viserys had guards hold down her wings before she was cut into. When the feathers fell off, she would gift them to her friends and family. Her husband Viserys, her daughter Rhaenyra, her good-brother Daemon, and Rhaenys each had one of her feathers with them when they died. — When Jon accidentally sneezed fire and melted a ice zombie instantly, Ygritte knew this was the gods way of telling her this is her future baby daddy. Fangs? Fire? If the kids inherited her hair and archery skills they would be unstoppable. (and yes this is a Ygritte lives!AU

— The real reason why Benjen wasn't in the war was because he would have been a menace. A lethal menace. You think Ned was just beginning to grey in book? If Benjen was in the war Ned would have been instantly grey, this poor man would just be running after his little brother as he kills knight after knight the entire war like Benjen no you can't just try and take on an entire unit on your own ROBERT STOP ENCOURAGING HIM! (Books-n-guns, if you're reading this I totally owe this to you about your Benjen comment XD) — Catelyn has a shiny rock collection. This woman has been in rivers since she was girl and has found the best rocks. She's given Ned some. He cherishes them dearly, and he always has one of them on his person. Uses the flatter ones as a worry stone. He had one of them on his person when he was executed. (no this isn't a Ned Stark lives!AU sorry the plot/lore demands it) — All the Stark-Tully kiddos collect rocks. The shinest of shiny rocks. Best of the best. Robb and Arya give some to Theon and Jon respectively. Sansa gives her very first best shiny rock to Margaery who never leaves without it. — In return Margaery gives Sansa a piece of her tree to take with her if she has to travel. A flower or a leaf or even a piece of its bark. It's warm to Sansa's hand and she swears she can feel Margaery through it. — Arya bit Joffrey when he was being an ass with Mycah. Nobody could deny it with blood on Arya's lips/fangs. So Nymeria stays and Lady was spared. Afterwards, Ned managed to get the wolves out of King's Landing just in time. Sansa has wolf dreams of running with Nymeria, hunting and surviving. — Margaery nearly weeps when she learns about the Starks of old. She loves her Sansa - but are you seriously telling her, her girl could've had pointed ears and wolf eyes and claws? She could have had a Westeros version of a werewolf as a girlfriend?! Fuck it she's joining the Old Gods maybe if she's a good follower they'll have pity on this poor lesbian and give Sansa those features. Please she is begging with her heart and her entire pussy please. — A month after giving birth to her daughter, Aemma strapped Rhaenyra and her little dragon securely to her chest, and took flight. Just like her good-mother did to a baby Daemon on her dragon years ago. People said Rhaenyra was giggling when Aemma landed. "She has her entire life to ride on a dragon, Viserys." The queen was overheard saying to her husband. "Let her first years be flying with me." — As books-n-guns said, the Lannisters were more pack oriented than the Starks. Come Tywin and his Tywin-ness and boy have the Lannisters been screwed-up badly by him. — The Tullys and the Greyjoys absolutely hate each other I'm not kidding. You think Balon has beef with Ned over his defeat over little rebellion? Nah, that only added to the existing beef of Ned being married to fucking Tully. A fucking river nymph. This hate is spread out to the Riverlanders and the people of Iron Isles. — No I'm serious they fucking hate each other. The amount of fist fights and duals and deaths between a Riverlander and someone from the Iron Isles is so damn frequent people just automatically clear the area and wait for one or both to die, and carry on their business. It's another Thursday in Westeros, nothing spectacular to see here.

[oldfashioned-lovergirl]

» OPEN FANFICS REQUESTS ☽

y = young, a = adult. Bold means I love writing about them

I write soft NSFW, love triangles, social media au, modern setting and I’m willing to follow any trope, you can be specific if you want.

(I’m sorry if I haven’t included your fave, I just write about the ones I like)

CELEBRITIES

Pedro Pascal, Oscar Isaac, Tom Hardy, Ewan McGregor, Cillian Murphy, Jake Gyllenhaal, Jeffrey Dean Morgan, Andrew Lincoln, Norman Reedus, John Bernthal, Evan Peters, William Zabka, Jensen Ackles, Antony Starr, Karl Urban, Johnny Depp, Brad Pitt, Jack Nicholson, Matthew McConaughey, Enzo Vogrincic, Harrison Ford, Alain Delon, Marlon Brando, Bruce Springsteen

THE WALKING DEAD

Rick Grimes, Daryl Dixon, Negan Smith, Michonne, Carl Grimes

Rick x Michonne, Rick x Daryl, Abraham x Sasha, Rosita x Tara, Daryl x Connie

GAME OF THRONES / HOUSE OF THE DRAGON / ASOIAF

Tyrion Lannister, Jaime Lannister, Jon Snow, Sandor Clegane, Oberyn Martell, Stannis Baratheon, Daenerys Targaryen, Cersei Lannister, Petyr Baelish, Tywin Lannister, Sansa Stark, Robb Stark, Theon Greyjoy, Ned Stark, Robert Baratheon, Jorah Mormont, Asha/Yara Greyjoy, Brienne of Tarth, Benjen Stark, Euron Greyjoy, Beric Dondarrion, Daemon Targaryen, Harwin Strong, Aemond Targaryen, Aegon II Targaryen, Jacaerys Velaryon, Cregan Stark

Jaime x Brienne, Sansa x Theon, Jon x Daenerys, Jon x Sansa, Stannis x Davos, Robb x Theon, Jon x Satin, Ned x Robert, Robert x Lyanna, Cersei x Oberyn, Tyrion x Oberyn, Jaime x Oberyn, Sansa x Margaery, Daenerys x Asha/Yara, Daenerys x Jorah, Daenerys x Euron, Stannis x Davos, Melisandre x Stannis, Rhaenyra x Daemon, Rhaenyra x Harwin, Rhaenyra x Alicent, Daemon x Laena, Jaecerys x Cregan

STAR WARS

Obi-Wan Kenobi, Anakin Skywalker, Han Solo, Din Djarin, Boba Fett, Shin Hati, Darth Maul

Han x Leia, Han x Lando, Anakin x Padme, Obi-Wan x Satine, Obi-Wan x Darth Maul, Obi-Wan x Cody, Finn x Poe, Din x Luke, Din x Cobb Vanth, Shin Hati x Sabine

ATTACK ON TITAN

Eren Yeager, Jean Kirstein, Reiner Braun, Annie Leonhart, Porco Galliard

Erwin x Levi, Jean x Marco, Eren x Mikasa, Mikasa x Annie, Eren x Reiner, Reiner x Jean, Eren x Jean, Mikasa x Jean, Pieck x Porco, Reiner x Porco

JUJUTSU KAISEN

Satoru Gojo, Suguru Geto, Ryomen Sukuna, Yuji Itadori, Nanami Kento, Toji Fushiguro, Megumi Fushiguro, Maki Zenin, Nobara Kugisaki, Mahito, Choso, Yuta Okkotsu, Shiu Kong

Gojo x Geto, Sukuna x Megumi, Yuji x Megumi, Nanami x Haibara, Maki x Yuta, Mahito x Geto

MORTAL KOMBAT 1

Johnny Cage, Kenshi, Liu Kang, Kitana, Bi-Han

Johnny x Kenshi, Liu Kang x Kitana

COBRA KAI / THE KARATE KID

Johnny Lawrence (y/a), Daniel LaRusso (y/a), Miguel Diaz, Eli Moskowitz/Hawk, Tory Nichols, Sam LaRusso, Terry Silver

Johnny x Daniel (y/a), Miguel x Sam, Miguel x Tory, Tory x Robby, Miguel x Robby, Eli/Hawk x Moon, Kreese x Terry (y/a)

HARRY POTTER

Harry, Draco, Ron, Hermione, Cedric, James (y/a), Sirius (y/a), Remus (y/a), Albus (y), Lucius (y/a), Barty

Harry x Draco, Ron x Hermione, Sirius x Remus (y/a), Harry x Cedric

MARVEL COMICS / MCU

Frank Castle, Tony Stark, Bruce Banner, Thor, Loki, Clint Barton, Natasha Romanoff, Yelena Belova, Kate Bishop, Stephen Strange, Peter Parker (any version), Felicia Hardy, Carol Danvers, Peter Quill, Gamora, Wanda Maximoff, Vision, T’Challa, Victor Von Doom, Erik Lehnsherr, Matt Murdock, Elektra, Maria Hill, Reed Richards, Johnny Storm, Susan Storm, Ben Grimm

Tony x Bruce, Loki x Mobius, Sam x Bucky, Tony x Bucky, Bucky x Natasha, Natasha x Yelena (non mcu), Yelena x Kate, Peter x Gamora, Scott x Hope, Frank x Matt, Frank x Karen, Victor x Tony, Victor x Reed, Victor x Stephen, Reed x Susan

DC COMICS / DCEU

Bruce Wayne (any version), Selina Kyle, John Constantine, Diana

Bruce x Selina, Bruce x Harvey Dent, John x Zatanna, John x Bruce, Roman Sionis x Victor Zsasz, Harley Quinn x Diana

OTHERS

Thomas Shelby (Peaky Blinders), John Shelby (Peaky Blinders), Ragnar Lothbrock (Vikings), Joe Goldberg (You), Joe Goldberg x Rhys Montrose (You), Tyler Durden (Fight Club), Rust Cohle (True Detective), Kai Anderson (AHS), Tate Langdon (AHS), Tate Langdon x Violet Harmon (AHS), James March (AHS), Lalo Salamanca x Nacho Varga (Breaking Bad), Billy Butcher (The Boys), Soldier Boy (The Boys)

[atopvisenyashill]

More galaxy brain show shit. Laena gets the loving she deserves but the implied Laenor and Daemon hooked up happens.

It is our little incest happy polycube. Daemon is the biological father of all of Rhaenyra kids (give them all the bad white wigs)! So the bastard question is why the kids aren't black- and the answer is none of the Targaryens are! And Baela having to marry her cousin who is secretly her bastard half brother who is taking away her rightful inheritance but she loves him. This is an inverse of half season eight plot of Jon and Sansa. And later Alyn taking away Driftmark is season eight version of Dany and Jon. But HotD makes me want to see it played out.

I love that you're like "how do I make this as messy as possible" with this, I love it lmao.

[winterfellsroses]

The Dance of Ice and Fire

Pre-story Timeline

While the events from Fire and Blood reflect the 'real' history as recorded and known during Sansa's own time, part of the premise of this fic is that Sansa going back in time causes a ripple in time, meaning a lot changes (such as new characters, different timelines, characters who have changed from what Sansa has learned about them, etc. ...), and this story will be based on the show's version of events. Consequently, the book timeline doesn't work. I've taken the dates for the births of Viserys' generation and Rhaenyra's year of birth as mentioned in the book as guidelines for my own timeline, which will up to a point follow the show timeline, or at least my interpretation of it. 

Below are all the relevant dates of births and deaths for House Targaryen, House Stark, House Velaryon, House Strong and House Hightower, and other signficant events prior to the day when this story starts, which is the 28th day of the last moon of the year 124 AC.

Events with canon dates according to Fire and Blood or other WOIAF sources are in bold. I've also added the years of birth for Viserys' generation's parents when known.

This timeline may be updated as I define more details.

legend

* birth

+ death

name x name wedding

name - name betrothal

son/daughter of name x name trueborn child

son/daughter of name/name natural child

# other event

older spouses are listed first

53 AC

* Corlys Velaryon

54 AC

* Jocelyn Baratheon

55 AC

* Aemon, son of Jaehaerys x Alysanne

57 AC

* Baelon, son of Jaehaerys x Alysanne

60 AC

* Alyssa, daughter of Jaehaerys x Alysanne

* Vaemond Velaryon

63 AC

* Vaegon, son of Jaehaerys x Alysanne

* Lyonel Strong

71 AC

* Otto Hightower

74 AC

7th day of the 7th moon, * Rhaenys, daughter of Jocelyn x Aemon

* Catelyn Fossoway

77 AC

* Viserys I Targaryen

78 AC

* Rickon Stark

81 AC

* Daemon Targaryen

* Bennard Stark

82 AC

* Aemma Arryn

83 AC

* Rhea, daughter of Yorbert Royce x Amanda Arryn

86 AC 

Lyonel Strong x Denyse Malister

87 AC

* Harwin, son of Lyonel x Denyse

89 AC

* Gilliane Glover

* Otto Hightower x Catelyn Fossoway

90 AC

* Rhea Manderly

* Mysaria of Lys

Lyonel Strong x Alys Frey

* Daeron Velaryon

91 AC

Corlys x Rhaenys

* Meredyth, daughter of Otto x Catelyn

* Larys, son of Lyonel x Alys

92 AC

13th day of the 3rd moon, + Aemon Targaryen

93 AC

* Drystan, son of Otto x Catelyn

* Criston, son of Artor Cole x Myria Sand, a natural daughter of Lord Jordayne

* Margaret Karstark

94 AC

Viserys x Aemma 

* Laena, daughter of Corlys x Rhaenys

Lyonel Strong x Jeyne Darklyn

95 AC 

* Gwayne, son of Otto x Catelyn

* Melony, daughter of Lyonel x Jeyne

96 AC

* Laenor, son of Corlys x Rhaenys

* Alicent, daughter of Otto x Catelyn

97 AC

* Rhaenyra, daughter of Viserys x Aemma

* Roslyn, daughter of Lyonel x Jeyne

99 AC

* Jaehaerys, son of Viserys x Aemma

* Alysanne, daughter of Corlys x Rhaenys

100 AC

1st day of the 7th moon, + Alysanne Targaryen

* Daemion Velaryon

101 AC

+ Baelon, son of Jaehaerys x Alysanne

# Great Council, Viserys is chosen as Jaehaerys' heir

Jaehaerys - Alysanne

Bennard Stark x Margaret Karstark

102 AC

* Alys Rivers, daughter of Rickon Stark/Ellyn Strong

103 AC

+ Jaehaerys Targaryen

# ascension of Viserys I

* Benjen, son of Bennard x Margaret

105 AC

Laena Velaryon - Fregar Montaryon

+ Jaehaerys, son of Viserys x Aemma

Daemon Targaryen x Rhea Royce

106 AC

+ Catelyn Fossoway during a hawking accident

* Brandon, son of Bennard x Margaret

108 AC

Rhea Manderly x Daryn Hornwood

109 AC

* Arya, daughter of Bennard x Margaret 

* Arra Norrey

* Jon Cerwyn

Rickon Stark x Gilliane Glover

110 AC

* Harrion, son of Rhea x Daryn

* Cregan, son of Rickon x Gilliane

111 AC 

+ Aemma Arryn

* Baelon, son of Viserys x Aemma

+ Baelon, son of Viserys x Aemma

+ Daryn Hornwood

# Daemon and the Velaryons leave for the Stepstones

* Beron, son of Bennard x Margaret

112 AC

1st day of the 1st moon, Viserys x Alicent

* Eddard, son of Rickon x Gilliane

+ Giliane Glover

* Aelon Waters, son of Daemon Targaryen/Mysaria of Lys

* Sara Snow, daughter of Rickon Stark/Jeyne Poole

* Aegon, son of Viserys x Alicent

113 AC

* Daena, daughter of Daemon x Rhea

* Lysa, daughter of Bennard x Margaret

114 AC

Rickon Stark x Rhea Manderly

* Helaena, daughter of Viserys x Alicent

Daemon returns from the Stepstones

# Daemon and Rhaenyra visit Flea Bottom,

# Rhaenyra sleeps with Criston Cole

115 AC

1st day of the 1st moon, * Alysanne, daughter of Rickon x Rhea

+ Rhea Royce, died in a hunting accident, though there are rumours that she was killed by or by order of her husband, Prince Daemon

Laenor Velaryon x Rhaenyra Targaryen

+ Fregar Montaryon, betrothed of Laena Velaryon, killed in a duel against Prince Daemon during Princess Rhaenyra's wedding celebrations

+ Joffrey Lonmouth, succumbed to wounds suffered at the hands of Ser Criston Cole during the tourney that was part of Princess Rhaenyra's wedding celebrations

* Aemond, son of Viserys x Alicent

116 AC 

Daemon Targaryen x Laena Velaryon

117 AC

* Baegor, son of Daemon x Laena

* Arella, daughter of Rickon x Rhea

Alysanne Velaryon x Daemion Velaryon

118 AC

* Aemma Velaryon, daughter of Harwin Strong/Rhaenyra Targaryen

+ Eddard Stark, who drowned in the black pool of Winterfell's Godswood

* Daeryssa, daughter of Viserys x Alicent

119 AC

* Veraena, daughter of Alysanne x Daemion

* Edric, son of Rickon x Rhea

* Rhaena, daughter of Daemon x Laena

* Lucerys Velaryon, son of Harwin Strong/Rhaenyra Targaryen

120 AC

* Jaemion, son of Viserys x Alicent

121 AC

* Joffrey Velaryon, son of Harwin Strong/Rhaenyra Targaryen

* Laenora, daughter of Alysanne x Daemion

123 AC

Daena Royce - Aemond Targaryen

[artedimichelangelo]

New Fics!

I uploaded the new version of my masterlist and another post in which I explain the whole situation, please check them out if you haven’t seen them yet!

Here you have the list of everything from Game of Thrones and House of the Dragon that I will be writing for!

House of the Dragon:

Rhaenyra Targaryen.

Daemon Targaryen.

Aemond Targaryen.

Aegon Targaryen.

Jacaerys Velaryon.

Lucerys Velaryon.

Alicent Hightower.

Harwin Strong.

Criston Cole.

Game of Thrones:

Daenerys Targaryen.

Jon Snow.

Robb Stark.

Sansa Stark.

Arya Stark.

Jaime Lannister.

Cersei Lannister.

Tyrion Lannister.

Theon Greyjoy.

Tormund Giantsbane.

Oberyn Martell.

Sandor Clegane.

Please read the warnings and the infos written in my masterlist so that you know what type of fics I write.

ALSO, requests for these fandoms are officially open, so feel free to send them in or text them in private.

Thank you all and see you soon !!!

[marveloustimestwo]

Fandoms and Characters

I'll write for any of these fandoms for the characters stated below.

Marvel

Steve Rogers

Tony Stark

Natasha Romanoff

Thor Odinson

Loki Laufeyson

Peter Parker (Tom Holland’s version if not specified, but I will also write for Andrew Garfield or Toby Maguire’s version upon request)

Sam Wilson

Bucky Barnes

Stephen Strange

Pietro Maximoff

Wanda Maximoff

Carol Danvers

Shang-Chi

Druig

Makkari

Sersi

Ikaris

Thena

Eddie Brock/Venom

Scott Lang

Hope Van Dyne

Peter Quill

Gamora

Nebula

Rocket (Platonic only)

Groot (Platonic only)

Drax

Mantis

Into/Across the Spiderverse

Miles Morales

Gwen Stacy

Miguel O'Hara

Pavitr Prabhakar

The Spot (Dr. Jonathan Ohnn)

X-Men

Jean Grey

Scott Summers

Kurt Wagner

Peter Maximoff

Warren Worthington

Wade Wilson/Deadpool

Piotr Rasputin/Colossus

Arcane

Vi

Caitlyn

Jinx

Silco

Vander

Viktor

Jayce

Ekko

Sevika

Star Wars

Luke Skywalker

Leia Skywalker

Obi-Wan Kenobi

Anakin Skywalker

Din Djarin

Rey Skywalker

Kylo Ren

Finn

Poe Dameron

Legends of Tomorrow

Rip Hunter

Sara Lance

Ray Palmer

Nate Haywood

Amaya Jiwe

Ava Sharpe

Avatar: The Last Airbender

Aang

Katara

Sokka

Zuko

Toph

Suki

Harry Potter

Harry Potter

Ron Weasley

Hermione Granger

Fred Weasley

George Weasley

Bill Weasley

Sirius Black

Remus Lupin

James Potter

Barty Crouch Jr.

Game of Thrones

Robb Stark

Jon Snow

Arya Stark

Sansa Stark

Theon Greyjoy

Jaime Lannister

Tyrion Lannister

Sandor Clegane/The Hound

Daenerys Targaryen

Khal Drogo

Jorah Mormont

Oberyn Martell

Brienne of Tarth

Tormund Giantsbane

House of the Dragon

Rhaenyra Targaryen

Daemon Targaryen

Alicent Hightower

Rhaenys Targaryen

Corlys Velaryon

Laena Velaryon

Aemond Targaryen

Aegon II Targaryen

Helaena Targaryen

Jacaerys Velaryon

Lucerys Velaryon

Baela Targaryen

Rhaena Targaryen

Ser Harwin Strong

Ser Criston Cole

Cregan Stark

Benjicot “Davos” Blackwood

Criminal Minds

Aaron Hotchner

Derek Morgan

Spencer Reid

Emily Prentiss

Jennifer "JJ" Jareau

Penelope Garcia

Elle Greenway

Luke Alvez

Chronicles of Narnia

Prince Caspian

Peter Pevensie

Susan Pevensie

Edmund Pevensie

Lucy Pevensie

[lawonderlandwriter]

Jonerys Baby Name Predictions

Just a random post and my random thoughts. You guys tell me what you think!

Boy options:

Eddard/Ned: Likeliness - 8/10. Ned was Jon's adoptive father, arguably most honorable man in Westeros. Very likely.

Robb/Robert: Likeliness - 4/10. Although there is book evidence Jon would want to name his son after his late brother, Robb Stark was named after Robert Baratheon (userper, killer of Jon's actual father, all around not great guy). So I'd say this name is Not very likely.

Rhaegar: Likeliness - 5/10. Jon's father. Dany's brother. Dany already wanted to name her first son for her eldest brother. But Rhaegar's relationship with Lyanna did start a war that nearly ruined House Targaryen so I'd say it's just Possible.

Daemon: Likeliness - 5/10? I keep seeing this name in a lot of different fanfics as if the fandom has somehow decided on it and all agreed. Yes it's a Targaryen name and a cool one. But I think Dany and Jon would be too sentimental to not name their child after someone they love.

Jon: Likeliness - 10/10 (if Jon dies); 6/10 if Jon lives. If Jon dies clearly there would need to be a legitimate Jon Targaryen out there. No question. There would literally be no other name Dany would want if Jon died. But if he lives, I'm not so sure Jon would be so egotistical as to name his son after himself. So it's either Highly Likely or just Possible.

Aegon: Likeliness - 0/10. Oh Gods please no not another one. Impossible!

Benjen: Likeliness - 3/10. It would be a sweet thought. Benjen did save both his nephews beyond the wall, dying saving Jon. But Benjen Targaryen just doesn't have a very regal ring to it. So I'd say Not very likely.

Rickon/Rickard: Likeliness - 3/10. Again, sweet thought. Jon's grandfather or late brother/cousin. But just not significant enough. Not very likely.

Aemon: Likeliness - 8.5/10. I would say 9/10 but don't want to sound too sure of myself. I really like the idea of Jon and Dany's first son being named Aemon. First, it's a very Targaryen name, regal, very fitting for an heir. Second, Maester Aemon was something of a mentor to Jon and had a lot of influence in his journey, likely being the one to suggest Commander Mormont chose Jon as his steward, helping him get elected Lord Commander, 'kill the boy' speech. And also, Jon pretending to be Aemon the Dragon Knight when he was younger. I'd say this name is Highly Likely.

Girl options: (Omg this is actually so much harder)

Rhaella/Lyanna: Likeliness - 7/10. They were Jon and Dany's mothers who both died giving birth to them. Both would make lovely names for a princess. And I feel Lyanna is more likely for a girl than Rhaegar for a boy because Jon grew up knowing her name and believing she was his aunt, she was supposed to resemble Arya, and Lyanna Mormont is inarguably a badass. I'd say these both are Very Likely.

Sansa/Arya: Likeliness - 4/10 (if both live); 7/10 (if either dies). While it would be a lovely thought to name their first girl after Jon's sisters, I just don't see either of these as a first choice. However if one of them dies, I think it fairly likely Jon would want to honor his fallen sister by naming his daughter after her. So Not very likely to Fairly Likely.

Daenerys: Likeliness - 10/10-6/10. Again depending on whether Dany dies. Regardless of whether she and Jon both die, whoever remains to raise the princess would name her Daenerys I believe to honor her mother. If Dany lives, again, I don't know she'd be so egotistical to name her first daughter after herself. Highly likely to Possible.

Rhaenyra: Likeliness - 5/10. Its Targaryen sounding, it's regal and pretty. I've seen this one come up in a lot of fanfics, much like Daemon. But again, Jon and Dany seem too sentimental for that. So just Possible.

Visenya: Likeliness - 7/10. A female version of Viserys or Viserion (literally the dragon that had to die so Targ baby could be possible). A very Targaryen name. Also Visenya is one of Aegon the Conqueror's sister wives, dragon rider, all around badass, much like Dany. So I can see this as a definite Very Possible.

Missandei: Likeliness - 5/10. Honestly if Missandei dies I will be so fucking disappointed. But I don't see Targ baby having her name under any other circumstance so this is just Possible.

What other names do you guys think are possible?

[astarionposting]

your hotd heads are UNREAL good. i cannot stop looking at them and putting them in my game. the daemon one has me QUAKING i cant wait to see it in action when its ready. would you ever consider making aegon?? do you take commissions?

Thank you so much!

Expect daemon tonight ;) I am just making some little final changes

I have had some interest in Aegon recently, so yes I will place him on my list of to-dos. I do not take commissions yet, but once I feel that I have "mastered" making these presets, I will start taking a few a month!

I plan to do most of the Targaryens (Aegon II, Helaena, Viserys III, younger Rhaenyra and then I want to do an improved version of Aemond and Rhaenyra eventually) Alicent Hightower, Jaime and Cersei Lannister, then Jon Snow, Sansa Stark, Robb Stark and Arya Stark (sorry rickon and bran), and other GOT characters like Missandei, Melisandre, Brienne and MAYBE The Hound because I would like to experiment with making scars, so I'd love to do a burn one. Of course these take me a while to be happy with, so some may be a long way out, but these are my current plans!