#joellie story

[elliespuns]

"By the time I learned of your lies I had drown in the color of your smiles."

[typewriter83]

Did you read plumms stories???? Oh my God I I thought I was the only one who knew her work. Man if people here already send you hate, plumms would be cooked in here🤣 she had no fear. When I thought that story with Uncle Joel was the most dangerous thing she could ever write, she came up with that Dad Joel fic. But my favourite fic of hers was that one where they going to Salt Lake like canon (forgot the name). What was your favourite? Do a ranking, I'm curious

Ranking Pluums’ stories, that’s not easy. They’re each unique, and I enjoyed them all - unfortunately I know there’s a couple I’m probably forgetting.

Discussing of Joellie stories below cut.

Sunkissed - yeah, uncle Joel was my favorite of hers. I even told her in a comment that I wasn’t gonna read it, the idea of incest made my brain just brrzzt. But, because it was her, I was willing to try and dear lord. This was one story I really wanted the backstory to - how did it start, how long had it been going on, and prove my theory that Ellie was the one who initiated it - she was really feisty in this story.

Crack a Rib - I’m still on the floor over this story. The first chapter, describing the Ellie-sized hole in his body for her to just fit to, ugh, this is the kind of stuff I live for. And there was a perfect amount of Joel ridden guilt to make me scream

Future Days - we went a long time not knowing this was Pluums. I read this early on in my Joellie deep dive, even before I’d watched the flashback scenes from part 2. Of course after you read this story, you never look at the museum scene the same way

Baby Mine - this is a lot of people’s favorite, was probably her most popular, but with the story being hidden, we can’t see the hit count or the feedback. Again the idea of her being his bio-daughter made my brain buzz, but (for me) setting that aside - damn, this story was like watching nuclear bømb go off at the theme park. Dear god, that story was twisted and hot and we’ll never recover from losing that story.

I know there was another series she was working on where Ellie’s infection was affecting Joel - his aging was slowing down, so they could keep having babies. It was a two part series and she was working on the beginning of their relationship as well as the look in the future when they begin to realize what was happening - anyone remember the titles???

Did I miss any? Anyone wanna add any thoughts? (I can’t remember the SLC story you’re referring to) I hope she knows how much we love her work, how much she’s missed in the fandom, and that we all hope she’s doing well

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[jammingjoellie]

a butterfly dies everytime a joellie author hides/deletes their story. Please don't do it, it's hard enough not having many stories of them....

[picturesquepeculiarity]

If you started to write fics, what would you write about?

I write for a living so I find it very hard to get the energy to write for fun anymore (which sucks). I do enjoy playing ���what if” for plot points with my friends who do write, whether to help as a sounding board for their work or just for fun. BUT, that being said, if I were it would probably be Joel Miller with literally everyone and anyone lol. I don’t discriminate here. Probably some Joel/Reader, some Joellie, and even Joel and Ellie as the perfectly imperfect father/daughter duo they are. And maybe even go back to my roots and write some Twilight New Moon AUs lol.

I’m sure there are people who find it ~unacceptable~ that I’d be fans of both sides of that particular TLOU sub-fandom, but the reality is: this isn’t reality. I read stories where they work perfectly as a couple and ones where seeing Joel help Ellie heal from trauma as the worlds best Girl Dad™️ sends my little heart through the roof.

So anyway. Long winded way of saying: I love Joel Miller (and having met Pedro briefly on the NYC streets this week, I love him even more now too).

[yorkshirewench]

The hypocritical thing about anti-Joellies is that it’s literally just the Joel/Ellie thing - they don’t actually have a problem with Joel chasing after a younger woman - which people need to keep in mind Ellie is canonically over 21 by the end of TLOU2, writers don’t even need to “age her up” - but if Joel chases his best friend’s daughter who is fresh out of high school, that’s ok, because she’s 18 and not his “pseudo daughter” - it’s hypocritical and it’s gross.

AO3 has tags for a reason - and if the writer didn’t want to spoil the twist, they could have added warnings somewhere to warn readers that it was actually M/M and not referencing M/M - we should have had the choice to walk away from an explicit M/M story, but it wasn’t tagged properly. What you said wasn’t wrong

[thefudge]

Have you though about writing a Joel/Ellie Modern AU that is a mixture of a thriller, coming of age and exploration of human nature?

hmm, i feel like i kinda did that with exploded flowers . i've seen a whole bunch of interesting modern AUs in the tag, idk if i could add much more to that (srsly, the tag has grown so much!). i think also the bella/pedro stuff counts as modern AU because they're interwoven in many ways with their fictional counterparts. right now i'm focusing on my lyanna/oberyn story. we'll see if more beldro/joellie comes out of me at some point (probably around season 2 for sure).

[theoriginalladya]

jedirangerpenguin

I ABSOLUTELY believe you when you say it's Kandra, lol!! Both these boys are so great <3

biotickaidan

Omg Joelle is my name! I feel like it’s so rare. It always disappointed me as a kid when I couldn’t find it on souvenirs. 😅 I’ve never seen someone use it for a character!

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@jedirangerpenguin - Thank you!!!!

@biotickaidan - are you kidding me?!  I’m almost terrified to say this, but I needed a name for her (I figured out about half an hour before answering this one that she was a part of his past, tbh).  I first thought of Joelly Richardson, but wanted something unique to this character because I think she’ll be showing up a bit more in Michael’s story, so Joelle it became!  Oh my!  I’m so glad it turned out that way!!!!  <3   (and I get you - my name is unique like that, too!)

[rosebowlhockey]

Joe Week continues with a sweet celly or “Joelly” as he calls them. Joe is the king of cellys. One time he scored a gino and immediately removed his jersey and swung it around over his head. He called it the ‘Magic Joseph’. The other team was so weirded out that they refused to shake his hand after the game. True. Story. 🙃 (at California Street Hockey Association) https://www.instagram.com/p/CAMF7VVgEx1/?igshid=a4om0x3yui2c

[marcholasmoth]

OSRR: 2959

today i went with my momma to breakfast and to the grand opening of the new joann fabrics and we got a bunch of stuff. notably, momma got me a bag for my project, two pairs of fun socks, some cowtales, and this teeny stuffed pumpkin who is very cute. his name is seeds and i love him.

he makes me so happy and i love him.

we stopped at lull farms and we stopped for lunch and we ate when we got home. we set up the little cart we got from joann's, which is green and i recommended mom get it for her quilting stuff and so she had a place to put her boxes of thread. after a bit i went upstairs and i took a nap, and it was nice to be able to just sleep and not worry about getting up in time to get joel from work.

momma made rat rolls for dinner (feel free to ask about the story and/or recipe, i'm happy to share this delightful dinner recipe), and i sat for a while and just stopped functioning and sat and half watched tv for a while.

i packed some stuff and came back to joel's because i'd left everything here, and i got some ice cream on my way and munched on it at the table. i peeled back the layers of table covering and set up to finish my pattern pieces, which i was happily able to do. i also sketched out how i'd need to place the pattern pieces to get all of what i need out of the fabric, and i did it twice because i don't know which direction the nap is in. so i'll hopefully cut them out tomorrow.

but joel is home and i'm going to get my hair done tomorrow, so i'm gonna fulfill my routine and cuddle my joelly.

[pollamolla]

I started writing fanfics five years ago it was mostly to satisfy my beloved Joellie ship. I was so into this particular ship that I had read almost everything I could have. I left the story because I got a writer's block and I still haven't figured it out... if you have an idea, let me know.

I came back this year writing more fanfics and I don't know if I'm going to be able to update as much as I'd like since my classes are about to return next month, but... if you read any of my stories on AO3 (the user name is the same), let me know what you think, even if it's to shit on it (hahahaha), leave me a comment

Can I come with you?

Comment on fanfics

A few days back on AO3 I found an unfinished, two chapter spideypool fanfic that was cute and had lots of potential and was also last updated two years ago. Two whole years! And it had only three comments, all of which on chapter one, none on chapter two. I enjoyed the fanfic, despite it being far, FAR from being finished and the chance of it ever updating again anytime soon was just about zero. So you know what I did?

I wrote a damn comment. On chapter two.

And I made sure that fucker was long and had a small theory of where I think the author would take the fanfic in the future. I let the person behind the fic know that I friggin LOVED the two chapters I got to read! That I would LOVE to see more! That I’d jump out of my skin in happiness and virtually hug them half to death if I saw that they updated it.

Let me remind you this fic wasn’t updated in two YEARS! I was the first to comment on it in a year. And the first to comment on chapter two! And you know what happened today?

I got a reply.

From the author of the fanfic. And the author said how I gave them life for a project they had loved (still did) and that they were now working on a third chapter. After two YEARS of not updating. Of not writing. And it makes me so friggin happy seeing what I did. What I caused.

With a single. Damn. Comment.

All that it took for me was to think a bit about what I wanted to tell the author and the comment it. All it took was one comment. And suddenly this person was inspired to continue a fanfic they had abandoned for TWO YEARS!!

I couldn’t be happier. I couldn’t be more proud.

Comment on people’s fanfics. No matter how few chapters there are. No matter how many years have passed since their last update. Comment. You like a fanfic? Comment on it. It’s that easy.

[sueboohscorner]

#ChicagoJustice S1, Ep. 6-8 "Dead Meat"/"Double Helix"/"Lily's Law" Recap/Review

Missed out on a couple of episodes of Chicago Justice? Well, here's a recap of the previous few episodes. Don't forget tonight's new episode at 9/8c on NBC!

"Dead Meat"

When a cop is found murdered in a tub at a motel, the case leads to one of Stone's cases that he lost. But as they always say, the second time is the charm, right?

 "Dead Meat" was a very good episode story between Stone and the man that he tried to bring down years ago but never did. A bit of cat and mouse at will.

 When the State's Attorney office gets called of a dead cop in a motel, it leads to them a butcher owner who had previous encounters with mostly Antonio and Stone. But for Stone he feels like he has gotten him now and not only goes for the case but tries to bring the previous case to court as well.

 When a knife from evidence is out, Stone goes by people's accounts and stories and after he questions the suspect in court of how he didn't know that a former worker was in the barn at the time of a fire but he was trying to save the pigs and told of the technique he uses for which Stone remembered how the latest victim had died.

 Stone and Anna talk with the suspect and his lawyer and brings in the wife of the previous case to see him say that he killed her husband. Stone throws in a deal and tells them his theory of the murder went down and after showing photos of the victim, the suspect took the deal and admitted that he had killed the wife's husband too.

 This was a very good episode as we learned more and more about how Stone works in the business and also what he had learned from his father too. I thought the writing was very good and the acting between Winchester was great as well. Overall, I give this episode a 8/10.

  "Double Helix"

In a chilling case, Stone faces a case that's another flash from the past and a mother tries to get her daughter back.

 When Antonio and Laura inspected a warehouse, they find a dead body of a woman in a freezer. Later they learned that the victim was pregnant and the baby was taken out C-section. The question relays on who took the baby and it is okay.

 After searching around, they looked into the victim's work place to even the yoga class where a group of friends mention an ex-boyfriend. They headed to the boyfriend's apartment where he explains that he was shut out of her life six months ago but always tried to get back together. They returned to his apartment when they found out that he had connected with her but it was his girlfriend that made the connect and mention that the victim was with one of her pregnant yoga friends, Dawn.

 When they get to Dawn's place, apparently she had the baby but after she let them in and puts the baby down, Antonio and Laura sees that the baby's face is blue. They arrested her and tried her for murder but it also opens up the case of genetics because Dawn is the daughter of a murderer that Stone not only convicted as his first high profile case.

 The big debate was about genetics and does it really have an effect pasting it down to the next generation. In this case for Stone, it doesn't and proved that she did because she wanted a child because she couldn't have any. She was convicted with the two counts of murder.

 Meanwhile, Dawn's father tries to get a new trial as new evidence has come out saying that Dawn killed the woman that he was convicted on. When it was Stone's turn to speak, he really didn't do much til he let a big got ya on him with that if she had committed the murder, his plea deal was a whole lie and not to mention that four other murders were in Indiana that he did for which he asked that he would be tried there because in Indiana there is the death plenty.  He was sent.

 "Double Helix" was a very good episode, not only did it open up the genetics conversation (for which it isn't that old of a conversation) it was a very good debate on screen and off screen as well. Also Joellie Carter's performance was amazing as we learned about her situation getting her child back and also about her history if her father was the cause of her pill popping, for which it wasn't. This would be another memorable episode. Overall, I give this episode a 8.5/10.

  "Lilly's Law"

This episode might as well be the most conversational episode so far in this season.

 When one of the jury members asked to leave because it has become stressful, she's later found dead in the Chicago River with duct tape around her hands and mouth. This case will leave Stone fighting for the victim like any before.

 When investigating of the victim's death, they found that her ex-husband has been text messaging her a over 60 times in three days before she had died, with most of them very threatening and demanding messages about how a bad parent she is and how she shouldn't be on the jury for the trial.

 After reviewing everything they gathered, Stone and the team go after the ex-husband for all the bullying that he's done to her and given her the thought of killing herself, which she did. Soon, Stone goes to the one person that would know all, the son. He asked him about his mother and if he loved his mother. Not to mention using his cell phone and showing the jury a video message to his mother about how he hated her and all that but he confessed that it's wasn't he that meant to say those words that it was written out from his dad to make him say them.

 When the jury found the ex-husband guilty, in one of the most shocking twist, the judge changes the jury's verdict and let the husband go free because the jury let their emotions get in the way on this case. My jaw was literally down to the floor when I saw that happen.

 At the end, Stone tries to get a law changed that makes text messaging a law calling it, Lilly's Law. And int he mean time, at the end, he goes to an old friend's place to make amends to her because he didn't speak up about her beatings she got in a previous relationship.

 This was literally one of the most shocking and disturbing episodes yet. The ending to the case was a shock but I think what Stone did from proposing a new law to making amends to an old friend kind of help settled down the "oh my god" moment. I thought the case was amazing in this episode, as everyone played very well. Winchester and Carter's character stood out on this episode very well. The writing was very solid too. Overall, I give this episode a 9/10.

 You can catch Chicago Justice Sunday nights at 9/8c on NBC.

[elliespuns]

the anon again and YESSSS!!!! YOUR WRITING IS SO GOOD and the best part of it? I KNEW IT WOULD BE GOOD

Oh, GET OUTTA HERE!! *secretly blushing* No seriously, still feeling a bit weird about posting because I really am not used to this. I feel naked and exposed. Since I've been only ever writing fluff just for myself, I never really cared about what my way of sugar-coating things might sound to others; the way I say things in my stories, the way I portray moments, the way I do dialogues. So I KNOW that to most people here it might sound a little off at times. But as long as it's going to make at least a few of you happy... 😊 my Joellie heart is all yours.

[typewriter83]

Hello mama bear, let me just tell you I love your stories. So fucking much. Especially LtW. I am not used to sending asks, so this is my first time contacting anyone like this... and it's because I have a very serious question for you. Can you recommend your favorite writers in this ship? I need Joellie who is consensual. Everything I see is either non-con or r@pe :( I will love you forever even more if you recommend some authors. Thank you, I appreciate you so much in this fandom, xoxo

I really wanted to give this the attention that it deserves because the tag only has about 450 stories, and in that small collection there are some that aren’t properly tagged so they’re not actually part of the tag. But yeah, let’s talk about some of my favorites - below the cut

Also, thank you so much, you’re so sweet. I’m looking forward to picking up LtW again sometime in the future - probably in the new year! 🫶🏻

@olldtimerbuckley13 - who just joined tumblr and we need to wave and make her feel welcome. I will recommend everything she’s written, but “What Kind of Man Loves Like This” lives rent free in my head - chapters 5 & 6, trust Mama.

“Future Days (of you and me)” by anonymous - it’s actually by Pluums, but she wrote it under the anonymous pen name. It’s the museum/space capsule scene, but make it Joellie

“Just Go With It” by CallMeShepard was the first Joellie story I read and I recommend it to anyone who’s curious about the ship but unsure about the dynamics of it. It was written before Part 2 was released.

CatrionaMac - if you’ve read my current modern AU WIP “am i the one,” you’ll know that it’s an homage to her work “Strawberry Lipgloss.” I also love “Cover Me Up” - another story written before Part 2 was released.

“Symptoms of the Culture” by thydeviousviolet - once again written before Part 2 was released. And everything I’ve mentioned before has Ellie “aged up” even though she’s not considered “aged up” after part 2 became canon. I don’t know how else to explain it, lol.

“Of Tangled Spines” by burningferns - it’s hard to recommend this one because it’s incomplete. It’s over 200k words and it only scratches the surface. The main plot of the story isn’t even really revealed - but it’s so intricately detailed and the relationship is so good in this story. I read it again earlier this year and screamed when it was over.

“Let’s List the Froze and Cons” by uhavefckinguno - it’s a cute modern AU, with Ellie being Sarah’s college roommate. Another one of the first stories I read in the ship.

This last one, I don’t know if I’m so much recommending this as I’m asking if you’ve read it: “Flying to Wyoming” - parts 1 and 2 are the ones I would recommend if you want a detailed look into what a post apocalyptic world might look like - Daniels’s attention to detail is incredible, and his descriptions of a scarred country after war and the outbreak tore itself apart are really good. I never read the Riley flashback story, and the three stories that that place after arriving in Jackson have a much different tone. Anyway, it’s considered by some to be the quintessential Joellie story, and I’ve discussed it on my blog (look up the “flying to Wyoming ao3”) tag to see our discussions.

Anyway, that’s a pretty good collection of some of the stories I’ve enjoyed in the tag. I know I’m forgetting some - and if y’all have more recommendations, please send me an ask or add them in the comments!

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[jammingjoellie]

You never thought of writing a story or something?

Oh hiii!

I tried last year. I have a copious of wips archived. I did my best effort writing joellie but it felt like something was missing.

I'm still trying... when i have time. My schedule is not the same as last year, which is sad.

Anyways, someday I'll cook something.

[typewriter83]

My sweet, fluffy first Joellie story, We Go Together Like Donuts and Coffee, turns 1️⃣ today!

🥳 🎈 🎉 🍾

What are some of your favorite moments from the series?

(I promise, I’m still working on the finale, it’s just taking a little longer than I want.)

Fun facts about the Donuts & Coffee universe:

It started with a tweet I came across around 4:30 in the morning: We love going to the gas station for coffee and donuts and falling in love. By 6:30 that morning, I had a rough idea of what I wanted to do, by midday I had an outline and by the next day I had a rough draft

The original idea was to have Ellie and Joel meet at the gas station, and it would exclusively take place at the gas station, getting a peek into their lives as their relationship evolved. I had planned to have different characters come and go, including Tommy and Sarah.

David was always going to be part of the story as someone Ellie knew from work. My original intention was to have him follow Ellie, and have a confrontation in the parking lot - with Joel getting in a few punches, but that story evolved when I decided to make the story a series.

Most of the events in the series parallel some aspect of the canon events. Sarah was always going to be older than Ellie, which causes tension between Maria and Joel. Ellie finding out about Sarah - and thinking the woman on the phone is Joel’s wife - was supposed to happen in the original story, but I cut it off early and made another installment around that moment.

The fourth story - Iced Coffee, and Laundry, and Football (Oh, My) - came from a word prompt in a discord group (milky). I was looking forward to the upcoming football season and wanted to incorporate donuts and coffee into the story. Part of my inspiration for the story happened when I recalled that during the first game, when you are Joel and go looking for supplies in a scene, Ellie stays stationary but you can hear her chattering to Joel and he kind of nods along or gives her little replies. So, I took that and reversed it so the little tornado is flitting around the apartment with a significant amount of caffeine and sugar in her system, sprinkled with some flirting and football and bam! Adorable, domestic and fluffy cotton candy sweet goodness

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[typewriter83]

Hi! I've been following your work for some time now, and I think you're such a prolifically skilled writer. I prefer the canon dynamic between Joel and Ellie, and the fact that their relationship has father-daughter themes but isnt purely that, yet also isn't romantic. However, I will dabble in some stories about Joellie and I do find that concept interesting. Just out of curiosity, I was wondering what your thoughts are on one of the OG fics, Flying to Wyoming? I noticed you mentioned it in a previous post listing fics. I know that while it's well-written, it's also considered a rather controversial (and at times, extreme) fic, and for good reason. I'm interested in seeing what other people think.

Oh, hello! First of all, sweet new cub, you’re too kind - I’m so touched that you enjoy my stories. Like sincerely touched. Thank you.

I came into the the TLOU fandom from the show, looking for Joel&Ellie stories, and had no interest in the romantic ship - shh, don’t tell the cubs - but it was fics that drew my attention and curiosity and eventually the brain rot sent in. I’m a fan of the canon dynamics too - minus Ellie’s treatment of Joel in Part 2, but that’s a topic for another day.

But yes, let’s talk about Flying to Wyoming because on the surface, it’s the quintessential Joellie story - discussion below the cut - it’s LONG, so buckle up.

FtW is one of those stories that I should have let lie, should have let it be a one and done, enjoyed it and never gone back. I read the entire 600k word behemoth in less than a week, which means I was speed-reading, skimming and not in great depth and detail. But at the end, those last paragraphs of the final installment, I was crying, like tears flowing down my cheeks and I wandered my house like I’d lost real people in my life. (Am dramatic, didn’t y’all know?)

The basic dynamics of the story are there - a sweeping epic, cross-country survival adventure where a teenaged orphan girl falls in love with her older male protector, one of the first people that’s ever protected her, ever put her first. Much like the canon story, Ellie starts off terrified of Joel and what he might be capable of, and Joel treats Ellie like cargo because he doesn’t want to get close to her and fail yet another that comes into his life. And, honestly, this story could have been a platonic story, 100% it would have worked - even with undertones of a teenager crushing on an older man, it would have worked. But, because of the twist the writer takes, we have a whole different angle that’s being built up to - trust me, guilt-ridden Joel is my bread and butter and there’s a lot of guilt in his inner dialogue. Ellie’s a very curious, horny teenager - which is pretty much on target for the character. I’ve written both these angles, myself, and so have others.

So, what’s my problem with it? It’s a lot. The change in dynamics after the FtW2 - it’s been awhile since I’ve read it, so if I mess up the timeline, that’s on me - Ellie is still 14 when they set out for SLC and the explicit sexual activities ramp up pretty quickly especially at the bed and breakfast. I’m judging here - okay, maybe a little, and I have no place to judge - but that’s a lot for a young teenage girl. My problem with it is simply a matter of opinion - Ellie was so young. Am I a prude? Was I sheltered? Maybe - or maybe it just wasn’t my cup of tea for reading material.

The writer is talented, his depictions of a broken world are brilliantly detailed. His depictions of how states would fight states and the scars left in the earth after battles that took place long before Ellie was born are gorgeously detailed. His descriptions of abandoned and desolate towns along the highways are incredible. Some of my favorite scenes come from their stops along the way, but namely the town at the edge of the Mississippi where they stop for bike repairs - it’s a real bonding moment for Joel & Ellie and the town’s description is vividly painted.

Those are my positive takeaways from the story - the writer draws you in with his depictions of the broken world and it’s part of the draw to the TLOU universe for me as well. The whole idea of two humans walking - or on the back of a bike - across a broken country, it’s just so compelling.

Back to the Joellie aspect of the saga.

It’s made very clear in the final story - which by the way is the best title: The Home at the End of the Road is just a perfect title to describe not only their home once they settle in Jackson, but Jackson itself is their home at the end of their long journey. I could weep - anyway, by the final story, it’s made clear that Ellie is considered an adult by end-of-the-world standards when she turns 16, and Joel is finally ready (at peace?) to give himself completely to her. I didn’t particularly care for the scene itself - it’s not how I would have written it, it’s not what I was looking for or expecting, but we’re not yucking on anyone’s yum here, it just wasn’t it for me.

The story jumps ahead by a good decade and immediately takes a sad, different kind of dark turn - we know Joel is mortal (for some of us, he’s not, but here he is) and the writer spends the last chapter showing that they’ve started a family but Joel’s mortality is this dark cloud over the home at the end of the road.

What I’m about to say next is entirely my opinion - I never had a chance to speak to the writer, he was long gone from ao3 by the time I read this story - this is my opinion. The idea of the war between FEDRA and surrounding communities felt like it was taken straight out of The Walking Dead - I don’t mean that in a bad way, just that it felt out of place for the universe. TWD and TLOU take place in different times beyond the start of their respective outbreaks - TWD is about 15ish years after the outbreak when the show ends and FtW is about 30-35 years after - that’s a big difference. I don’t think there are a lot of big communities out there in the TLOU universe - not like what was depicted in FtW, and an all out war against FEDRA. Again this is just my opinion.

When I set out to write Every Night Has Its Dawn, I wanted the epilogue to be an homage and draw inspiration from the final chapter of Home at the End of the Road. I wanted to show that living at the end of the world could be possible for Joel and Ellie and the family they have together. I was so devastated by FtW ending with not only Ellie losing Joel and one of her children, but then she loses her own life. It was too heartbreaking, and I had another vision.

That’s a lot of fucking rambling to get to the point. The story itself is a good story - the details and the way the Joel/Ellie relationship were written were not my cup of tea and I can see why you say that it’s an extreme example of the forbidden ship. It is. It’s a lot - there’s a lot of graphic descriptions of underage sexual activity, and it’s depraved, a lot of it. Does that make it bad? No, it makes it someone else’s enjoyment. It gives us writers inspiration though - there’s a lot he writes that I strive to write, but there’s a lot that I would change, and maybe did a little to fit into my universe.

Anyway, that’s my long winded take. If you stick around this long, y’all deserve a medal. Drop a line if you wanna add something to this. I would love to discuss more.

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