#jikook sus behavior

[stormblessed95]

Hi storm! So in celebration of the upcoming ARS episodes I was wondering if you could do a Gif/Pic compilation of "that's not bro behavior" of jikook? 😁🤭

Just bros..... Bro

Just some bro kisses...

Just bro butt squeezes

Just bro pets

Just bro roleplay things...

(gifs from @gimbapchefs)

Just staring into bros soul

[roo-bastmoon]

So privacy has been violated OR...

... a smear campaign has begun.

Let's just get this new dating scandal out of the way so we can get back to buying and streaming...

Listen, I don't share unofficial content, but by now everyone in this tag knows there's a video going around that's supposed to be of JK in his apartment with Bam, walking around back-hugging and perhaps kissing a girl. Folks say there's the same couch, same wall panel, and a mood lamp.

I'm side-eyeing this because it's super grainy footage, the windows are different, the wall panel seems to be in different places in the two videos, the guy is shorter than the girl, and he's wearing a mask indoors. Plus, the account that dropped the videos supposedly posted then promptly closed up shop, which seems like they had the intention for deliberate sabotage instead of clout chasing as a sasaeng.

But people say the apartment set up seems really similar and the man has a similar hairstyle to what JK had in the beginning of 2023. So I guess it's Schrodinger's cat at this point.

(Isn't it curious that apartment-related scandals seem to happen on the day new content drops? Hmm... I digress.)

Look... If Jungkook (or Jimin) ends up dating someone else, I'm still going to support them as individuals. I'll be sad of course, because Jikook had AMAZING chemistry and I was really rooting for them to be together forever and all... but, I want them to be happy and fulfilled more than I want them to fit into any fantasy or ideas of my own.

That being said: at this very moment, half of Jimin's insta feed is about Jungkook. Most of Jungkook's lives for 2023 have JK mentioning Jimin, or even being totally focused on Jimin. There's years of super duper sus history between them. Right up to and including yesterday, where Jimin very heavily implied they are sharing Chuseok together.

It feels really weird to me that Jimin would want to tie JK's hair back neatly, call JK baby, beg JK to stay longer at his rehearsal, and joke that he can handle seeing JK naked -- but JK can't come over to shower and visit b/c Jimin says he just isn't that easy... if JK were in a relationship with someone else.

It also feels really weird to me that JK would light up like a super nova any time Jimin commented on his lives, would beg Jimin to hang out, would sing all of Jimin's songs and memorize Jimin's interview content, would travel with Jimin for his debut, then roll around naked in bed grinning and blushing while flirting with Jimin on live... if JK were in a relationship with someone else.

That would make Jungkook kind of a shitty boyfriend and Jimin kind of a shitty friend.

I know Jungkook is cultivating this cool guy/ladies man image right now and that is kinda baffling. I know friends can play-flirt, too... but to do all that on lives, after all their history together, knowing what half of Korea and ARMY thinks? Hm.

That's not "fanservice;" that's really toeing the line of queerbaiting. And it's really hard for me to imagine Jimin or Jungkook doing something like that. Jimin said he hates fake bromance stuff. (I guess anything is possible. It's a new chapter, after all. Maybe it's par for the course in idol-world.)

Hey, maybe Jikook had an amicable break up but are still really close and are fine teasing each other? Maybe they always liked to flirt but never were together? Maybe I've been reading it all wrong this whole time? Or maybe this is a bullshit video?

Whatever the reality is, I'm prepared to acknowledge it. At any time.

I'm not in a cult. I don't have to convince myself of anything. Jikook's behavior had made me think Jikook were in a relationship. If JK is dating someone else now? Okay then. I will just stop posting Jikook content and continue to help OT7 and celebrate my bias with all my heart.

No need for elaborate conspiracy theories or coping histrionics. If JK is in his Loving Women Era, good for him. Go with god, my brother. (Personally, I'd never recover from losing my chance to be with Thee Park Jimin, but that's me!)

But something about this just doesn't quite feel right. I wonder if he'll address it at all, like he did when folks filmed him in his gym or sent food to his home? Because if this is somehow real, it's a HORRIBLE invasion of privacy; home is supposed to be a safe place, and stalkers are scary.

And if it's not real, then someone is going to an AWFUL lot of trouble to overshadow Jungkook's release and upcoming album and that is unhinged. The kind of trouble that reminds me of apartment break-ins and tampered mail.

In any case, like I said: I'm ready to accept whatever the reality is, once the reality becomes clear.

I really love Jungkook. I really love Jimin. I really love BTS. They were there for me at the darkest, lowest point in my life. So whether I was right or wrong about Jikook, it doesn't really matter. In the end, I support them as far as I can.

But also, I sorta think this video may just be bullshit. So let's let them have their privacy, and focus instead on voting for Jimin and buying and streaming for JK instead, hmm? Eventually the truth will come to light.

No matter what happens, let's behave in a way that would make Jimin and Jungkook proud.

Love, Roo

[chevelleneech]

I have a question. (Or maybe rant)

We all saw how many staff members are there in all 3 episodes. Let's just say Jikook is actually a couple ...Why would a couple who hasn't spent any time together in so long want to spend the time they finally got for themselves in front of so many staff members?? Why would they flirt in front of so many people knowing they were getting filmed when they could have done it all in private??? Isn't it uncomfortable and weird for any couple?? Especially a closeted queer one?? This thought always comes to my mind before too whenever I see any jikook moment. It can only mean 2 things... 1- maybe staff also knows about them and are close to them both as friends so jikook has no problem flirting and behaves couply in front of them. Or 2-- maybe they are not a couple...and staff knows that..so everything is just normal for them to see cz they know jikook friendly dynamic is just like this.

Or Maybe.... Against all of this...

Some of the staff don't know about their real relationship...that is why the car talk happened...the control touches happened... teasing which almost sounds rude sometimes happened cz they need to hide from some of their staff too?? At least for sometime when cameras are on.

I don't know but this thing sometimes makes me confused and thought. Before.. whenever I see a jikook moment...I was like...okay sometimes couples do slip. You know... working together basically 24/7 in front of cameras all the time...make you alert but also makes you slip sometimes whenever you are around your partner. But I don't know now when I see how many people are there just filming the two of them. It should be awkward for a closeted queer couple as famous as them...be continuously filmed without any other member. Just the two of them . It always makes me doubt that their relationship isn't a romantic one.

Well, to answer this question honestly, it requires kind of ignoring the possibility of them being in a relationship entirely. That aspect is completely subjective and is based purely on how we as fans interpret their behavior, which could very easily be wrong on our end.

As such, I think your question should instead focus on your curiosity in how the members have any sort of normal/natural interactions whilst being filmed and overseen by at minimum 10 people everyday. And I don’t remove Jikook dating from the equation to be evasive, but to be realistic.

Realistically, all of their interactions are being watched. The seven of them have not been without a camera crew for the last twelve years. Yes, they take personal trips and can live their lives relatively without them, but majority of their lives are filmed and edited. As a result, they have had to grow extremely comfortable with being who they are both on camera and in front of a rotation of strangers. We know their camera men are not always the same, because they’ve mentioned before how they remember this or that one from previous times working with them.

So I imagine their freedom to be themselves relies heavily upon Big Hit keeping a more or less familiar rotation of crew. Not necessarily people who the members would consider friends, but people they have grown to trust over the years. And that trust is not something given blindly. It is obtained likely out of years of these people not breeching their contracts. Which is another aspect of what the members had to become comfortable with.

Contracts, contracts, contracts. Especially in the last five years or so, BTS crew are working with the some of the most famous people in music, but also in South Korean entertainment entirely. Meaning their contracts are very likely iron clad. These people will be sued out of not only their own ass, but their great grandchild’s too, if they speak on anything the contract tells them not to.

So for example, if we use the fact that RM has been dating around (as he’s told us himself), and the assumption that at least one of his partners was a man, since he’s also used gender specific pronouns in his lyrics and at the very least left questionable hints on his IG, it is very reasonable to assume the BTS film crew is aware that there is a queer member within the group, yet nothing about it has been leaked.

Did they film them together? Not that we know of, but it proves their lives off camera continue to happen. Same with Tae and Jennie. We didn’t see any footage of them interacting from official content, but it would be ridiculous to assume they never interacted within each other’s personal spaces just because their camera crews and staff were around. In fact, there is a photo of Tae getting his hair and makeup done with Jennie in the background.

So it’s really just a matter of which partners the members want to integrate into their work lives, as well as them simply being people with personal lives.

Therefore, if we do circle back to the possibility of Jimin and Jungkook being romantically involved, the reality of a film crew who are contracted to essentially ignore any and everything the guys do, and just film it… don't really matter. They matter as people obviously, but it is literally their job to see and hear nothing. They get paid to record, and keep their mouths shut. It is then the editors jobs to remove any and everything “incriminating” to ensure no one knows who the members are dating, who they hate, who they wanna fuck, etc.

At the same time however, the members are incredibly professional and it is highly unlikely they talk cash shit or actually kiss anyone in front of their crew. Not because they’re afraid, but because it lowers the risk of a crew member going rogue and saying, “fuck this contract!” and blasting any photos or videos across the media.

So if Jimin and JK truly are together in some form, it is most likely they just don’t do anything in front of their crew. Skinship is not abnormal in idol groups, so they’ve got that going in their favor. They’ve also been friends for over a decade, so no one is really going to bat an eye at the two of them being emotionally connected and concerned about each other. They’re close, but not stupid, basically.

Lastly, I also have to say, even though I am choosing to believe them saying they didn’t see each other often during early 2023, I do also think it’s important to keep in mind they don’t live an average life. So their time apart being for various reasons including work, is not the same sort of time apart non-famous people would be seeking private time to reconcile. Jimin and JK (if they were reconciling romance) killed two birds with one stone.

They filmed content for when they enlisted, but they also got to spend time together. Presumably, they are also in charge of what the camera films. So knowing 1) the cameras turn off when they say, 2) the crew is contracted to basically shut the fuck up and look away, and 3) editors will chop out whatever they tell them to… anything more than what they want to show in a professional setting is not getting filmed nor overheard by crew.

So, seeing as I truly do not think any of the members are out here being reckless when the crew is nearby, I must assume its probably not that difficult to maintain a line between professional and personal when filming reality content.

[not-goldy]

How can they not get it, Goldy?

Even if Jikook are just platonic, have a mutual platonic love, they still sink every ship with their behavior toward each other. This is why OT7 content scares the hell out of everyone cause in a OT7 setting, Jikook WILL and ALWAYS do gravitate toward the other over others the are shipped with. If this was not the case, Jk would not be in Jimin's room over others, when given the opportunity. Even if Jk goes to others rooms for a period of time, he is still spending the majority with Jimin. In LA, Jikook told you they were working out together, eating together, walking together, spending time together in Jimin's room and Tae also confirmed that for you. Then some girl spotted Jikook at the gym at like 2 am and posted receipts. Like in Vegas, Jimin, RM and Suga went out and Vhopekook went out to promote. Had dinner, went to a concert. Yet it was Jk telling you he was in Jimin's room right out of quarantine hugging him and Jikook leaving together from the airport in the same car after their vegas trip and Jimin posted that Jikook selfie from their car, laughing at you all. They carve out time with others, but at the end of the day, they are going home together.

Jk choosing to spend white day, silver day, Chuseok and valentines, several times together with JIMIN, over Tae or whatever flavor of the month you have him paired with. Does it get more clear? Even if Jikook are friends, Jk is certainly putting himself wherever Jimin is on those holidays. How can you argue your couple is in a romantic relationship if they don't spend couple days together confirmed? You know you haven't seen TK together on any couple day, ever. How can you, when we see Jk with Jimin? TK were together in korea, when Jimin was out of town and they still weren't together on White Day. Doesn't that say a lot. That Jikook carve out that time to spend those days together CONFIRMED, and only they know why? TK can go bowling on a random day, but skip celebrating holidays together, but spend them with others? Makes no sense. That sounds like friends to me, not a couple. All you have to do is think and it will become clear.

Jikook don't fit the just bros categories- that much they know cos there's always something sus about them that they can't quantify or classify. That much they admit.

And they can't put them in the dating category too cos that too makes them and everyone uncomfortable either due to homophobia, propriety or both.

Well they certainly aren't arguing with me over that cos I am over and above that level of foolishness. They can miss me with that

[curio-queries]

Hi! This is about your aspec, BTS and shipping discussion.

I am very new to this fandom and I needed some time to come to conclusion about what Jikook are to each other in my personal opinion. What I settled on is that they undoubtedly have (or at least still had at the time of their last prolonged shared public appearance last December) a very, very close, intense relationship. I have doubts that it is platonic, but I can’t be sure 100%. And frankly, I don’t care about the exact nature of their relationship, because canon has never stopped me from shipping whatever the hell I want.

Now, in the process of coming to this conclusion, I've encountered a lot of posts that analyzed some of Jikook interactions, or answered some insecure shippers, or trolls pretending to be insecure shippers. Sometimes there were remarks that people who weren���t convinced by all the obvious Jikook moments/behaviors, didn’t see that Jikook were queer/together MUST be homophobic (or delusional cultists from the other side of the ship war, or both). And it always made me uncomfortable, because what about people like me?

I think of myself as being somewhere on the ace spectrum (with a side of being shit at human interactions in general). I’ve always been confused by/blind to a large degree to intricacies of outward expressions of people’s romantic/sexual relationships. I don’t notice it unless it is very, very obvious. I am a real-life representation of an “Oblivious Character X” fanfic trope. I am an oblivious fool who doesn’t recognize when they are flirting, who gets invited and taken on a date and doesn’t realize what’s happening until it’s too late. I also have difficulties recognizing these behaviors between other people/couples both in RL or in media (it goes both for queer and het relationships).

I can’t know for sure, but I think that if I just watched BTS content (like AYS for example) without being primed for shipping, I most likely would have read Jikook as just really good friends (lol) and even if I noticed anything sus they do, most likely I would have rationalized it as cultural differences and fanservice. And I don’t think homophobia has anything to do with it in this case.

I don’t have any actual question to ask, so sorry for rambling and thank you for reading if you did, also for sharing your thoughts in your previous posts.

Hi anon,

Thank you for sending this in as you've demonstrated the point I was making. These posts were not about any of the member's themselves but about the harm to those of us out here that do fall into other sexualties and the erasure we feel when certain declarations are continuously made with no challenges.

It's definitely been interesting to see the anons pouring into my inbox in the past day though. It's exceedingly clear that they don't even read the actual posts and just want to argue for the sake of arguing. They'll have to go do it elsewhere, though as I said, I wouldn't be posting any that aren't made in good faith and are willing to have a nuanced discussion.

[naneun-no]

Saw a tweet and it reminded me of one of the most boyfriend things Jimin has ever done:

The way he buys him a new bag because his old one was ugly 🥹 that’s such a “baby that’s embarrassing are you really gonna wear that dumb (insert clothing/accessory item here) in public? I have to be seen with you” vibe.

The Just A Friend move is to mock your buddy relentlessly for their ugly camera bag. The Significant Other move is to buy them a whole new one and proceed to transfer everything in their current bag into it in front of them, not caring whether they consent or not 🤣

Jimin even mocks Jungkook for a moment for his tongue-in-his-cheek slightly annoyed looking face during the whole thing. Do I think Jungkook liked the bag? Sure. Do I think he appreciated the way Jimin was moving the contents of his quite organized camera bag haphazardly into a bag that does not appear to have nearly enough pockets and compartments with no visible strategy or plan? No, no I don’t think he appreciated that 😂 I think he may very well have been popping that bubble wrap to calm himself down. Lmao.

Jimin, meanwhile, is in peak partner behavior. It’s “I don’t give a shit if these are your lucky underwear, they look like Swiss cheese and we’re replacing them.” It’s “you look amazing no matter what you wear but you would look better in an outfit I picked out 😌” it’s…

It’s so boyfriend it’s odd that people don’t reference it more as a sus Jikook moment.

If they were Just Friends and everyone knew that, Jin could have stormed in whining about how HE got Jungkook a bag and it was BIGGER and BETTER and make everyone laugh but instead Jin waited to tell Jimin until later, and no one interrupted the forceful gifting moment lmao, and Jungkook held his tongue even when it looked like he wasn’t sure if he wanted to 🤣

I just love the whole energy here, the way Jimin is hovering the whole time, the way JK reacts to everything. I’m not saying they were for sure dating at this point or official or whatever, but this just doesn’t seem like Just Friends behavior. Period.

[dearweirdme]

Okay, so I decided to do some self-torture and go and search "jikook" on youtube and I started watching some of the videos. I was almost a little afraid that I'd start watching the videos and have a panicked revelation that I was wrong all along and that there actually is something to jikook.

But let's just say I was laughing a big chunk of the time. The way people take such insignificant moments between the two of them and turn them into something completely crazy is hilarious. The grasping at straws is too funny.

I truly think it's strange how people just look at their interactions at face value. It's so bizarre to me. Even things that might seem "sexual" to them like an ass slap or something... doesn't mean it's sexual if you look at years of them interacting. They are so clearly just friends.

I've been an ARMY since 2015 and a Taekooker for almost as long. The amount of butt slaps they've all given each other is incredible. Does that mean they are all dating? lol But seriously, a big reason why I became a taekooker was not due to the individual moments between them. Because that's silly. All the members are super comfortable with each other.

It was the observation of the behavior over time that really made me start wondering about taekook. The patterns, the way they treat each other, etc. And I'm sorry, but it was always clear to me that Jungkook especially in the early years was smitten with Tae. He could barely look away from him and I could practically see the heart eyes.

Also, it's the way the company treated them throughout the years and how others acted around them as well. And I'm sorry, if jikook were and are dating, why on EARTH would the company be basically shining a giant spotlight on their relationship. That makes no sense. At the end of the day, the company wants to make money and highlighting a gay couple via a SHOW and also countless hours of content focused on them would be just downright stupid and dangerous for everyone. ALSO the military thing. I mean COME ON. Enlisting in the army...in KOREA...with your "boyfriend"?? I'm sorry but that's insane and extremely dangerous.

Whereas with taekook, they were (as we all know now) more hidden by the company and not as promoted together. I remember it at the time of their peak "separation phase" and I was always hoping to see them together in Bangtan Bombs or behind the scenes footage, but was always disappointed most of the time when they weren't. Not to mention the countless subtitles with "bro" and "friend" whenever they were filmed together. Be a bit more obvious, huh? Nothing like a little brainwashing to try to prove they are only "bros."

Idk, I guess at the end of the day, I'm still extremely confused about how jikooker's minds work lol I love taekook so much and will continue supporting them for a long time.

Love your blog! xxx

Hi anon!

😂😂😂.. notice to everyone.. no need to be afraid to watch Jkk videos. I actually did that when I first became aware of Jkk also being a ship, and I did it exactly because I wanted to know if there would be some sort of revelation. I mean, I’d rather know the truth than believe in something that’s not real. That revelation did not come. I had already watched a lot of official content when I started to watch Jkk vids, so I was kinda able to place everything real quick. I know there’s some moments that on their own look sus, but that’s all it is though, moments that appear sus, but really aren’t. I always just got the friends vibe from them, and I think Jm and Jk’s characters explain a lot about the ways they interact and why some make more of it.

[mrs-monaghan]

Jimin trying to act nonchalant around JK lately since hiatus, is actually making it more sus, but the only thing I can think of is, JM wants to keep his working relationship separate from his personal relationship and now that Jikook are on hiatus, they finally have a chance to do that, when Jikook never had that before. Before, they had cameras on them consistently, catching every gravitational pull, footsie and ball jiggle they did. They just wanna hold hands in the dark at a album party, but those pesky cameras. Also, JM was smart not including JK in his album promotions, dance challenges, cause now his haters can't use it against him. And I don't wanna hear people use the excuse its "hate" keeping JM from doing things, because chile, in case you forgot, JM will still show up & slap the fuck out of the cult, when they get too cocky. It seems JM's been calling the shots all along based on JK's IDGAF I love my boyfriend, Jimin attitude lately. Look how he has excluded talking about JK's participation on his gay love confession, Letter & not even singing it with him (which he did like a post about doing Letter with JK, so maybe there's still a chance). I'm also tired of these antis flocking to Jikook spaces, acting like they are TK lives and we're a cult that they can easily brainwash & gaslight into thinking JK left JM or JK doesn't want anything to do with JM or JK doesn't support JM. GTFO, we have functioning brains & know better. JK is the one telling JM to come over everytime he sees him & telling JM he wants to come to his recordings & going live talking about JM & chasing JM around on weverse commenting on almost all his posts. He is definitely not holding back. I know JK wants that Jikook subunit & Jikook live as bad as we do & probably wanted to do challenges with JM etc. Like JM purposely reading a question about seeing JK, only to not answer & deflect. He knows army's are nosy & wanted details & he said NOPE, I'm pleading the 5th. However, JM blushing talking about Army hearing Letter & then smiling and lighting up as soon as JK comes in when singing it. Yeah, he knows he's not fooling anyone. He knows we know. Jikook knows that everyone knows. Just look at how everyone was staring at Jikook when they were interacting in JM's BTB when JK came to see him rehearse for Face. The dancers & staff in the back, stealing glances at Jikook. They know they're watching THE couple of BTS & THE couple of BTS knows they're being watched, therefore THE couple of BTS forgets how to act on camera or around people and overthinks their behavior, which I think has happened with Jikook for a while now. In case anyone forgot, JK shared a song Justin Park On The Low, on the 1500 day anniversary of GCF Tokyo, that says "We ain't gotta keep it on the low. Backstage pouring up before the show. When we stuntin, WE LOUD, WE LOUD, WE LOUD, just so they know". So in case you didn't JK's message lately. JK doesn't wanna be low key with Jimin anymore & even tho JM is quiet, don't let the silence fool you. He's loving every minute of what his man is doing with his lives & supporting him.

[parkminijiminie]

We don’t know if the video is real or fake but I don’t get what the big deal is. Jimin and Jungkook have been acting that way towards each other for years and it was discounted as “bro behavior”. Suddenly because it is a female it becomes romantic?? Also, I don’t see this as a sabotage for Jungkook. He releases two songs that have strong hetero themes and now a video is leaked with a woman. After him fan boying and flirting with Jimin via Weverse for the last six months a love scandal with a woman might add to his song’s sales. One grainy video can’t change years of suspicious interactions between the two of them and the reactions from their band mates.

It is true that we don't know if it's real. To me , it looks more real than not, but we don't know. As I said in my long post about this, I too don't think a video negates all of Jikook's years long bond, but denying that the video is a little bit sus is just shoving your head in the sand. It may not be romatic, but still, it could be. Two people (supposedly) alone in an apartment in the evening, being all touchy with each other , playfighting or whatnot, could mean a lot of things and one of those is them being romantically/sexually involved 🤷‍♀️

Btw, it is precisely because JM and JK have been acting like this for years, that this ship even exists, so let's not be hypocritical. Nobody said that the video is inherently romantic, but it could be.

Lastly, int ARMYs may be chill about the boys dating, but in SK things are a little bit different, so this leak could definitely affect JK negatively. Moreover, the defamation part was not just JK with a girl, there are also accusations of him being a cheater. The timing, content and specific message the OP sent (JK cheating on a pregnant girlfriend) is definitely a targeted attack. JK doing hetero songs doesn't take anything from that fact.

[chim-chim1310]

I am a jkkr on this app. I have been for years. I follow a lot of big Jikook acc.. pretty sure everyone knows who they are.

I’ve tried reasoning with ppl, but it is not getting through to these ppl. How are you going to sit there and celebrate these fake bought achievements like this?

That Weverse article was like a knife in my heart: who is this man? I don’t know this man. I knew JK to be a person that wanted to be a meaningful artist who would give his all to his fans. Write his own music and be creative. All about the arts. That is who I thought he was. “I want to be a main huge pop star?” BTS are huge like wtf is he even talking abt? Him dancing and saying ooh let’s go to number 1 during suchwita.. like how chart obsessed can you be? Him celebrating his streams and so called broken records.. I’m like.. is he even aware of the gazzilion versions they released? 4 versions they combined? As a jkkr I’m like how can u accept the blatant sabotage that has been done to ur partner? Not a sane and healthy couple would do what he did. I love him i do but He destroyed my belief in him. He destroyed BTS. He fractured the fandom. I can’t lie anymore. I can’t defend any of this. Ppl say it’s not him.. it’s the company. Stfu.. nobody buys that. He doesn’t care abt the music. He doesn’t care abt artistry. Watching JM has changed my life. He was so humble, so mature.. so artistic.. so creative.. he put his heart and soul into his album. He deserves that number 1. He deserved all the support. He deserves to shine. This Jungkook doesn’t deserve anything. I really do pray that scooter isn’t involved in his album. I wish that for his sake because scooter doesn’t make careers.. he destroys lives. I am beyond disappointed. I feel bad because I thought he was like Jimin. He isn’t. I don’t recognize this empty shell. I’m sorry.

We share the same thoughts.

I've only started disliking jk after seeing the change in his behavior in a matter of days. I was a jikooker not long ago.

And if I'm being completely honest with you......i do find jikook extremely sus sometimes. like there are some jikook moments for me that just can't be denied. That's why I decided to ship them.

But now I've stopped shipping them not because I've suddenly started thinking that they're not together anymore. I've made this clear that we don't know shit. So I'm not here saying that they're dating because we don't know that. But I'll also be honest and say that I do find them suspicious sometimes.

So aside from all that I stopped shipping jikook because I stopped liking jungkook. That's it. Idc care about their personal life. I don't care if jikook are actually together. I don't care if jimin likes him. But as a fan I've stopped liking jungkook.

Shipping was never that serious for me. It was fun so I used to ship them because they were kinda sus and I liked them both since jk was my bias wrecker. But now that I've started disliking jungkook I just don't feel the need to ship them anymore. Shipping is not that deep. We would never know if they're dating or not anyway. So It should be fun for us and not that serious. So I never put much thought on it.

Jimin can like jungkook, he can even date jungkook but that wouldn't change my experience as a fan. Since I've stopped liking jungkook I don't like to attach his name with my bias.

But you're right. I had so much faith in jungkook and he ruined everything. Maybe that's why I'm so pissed at him. Because if yoongi did that then I would just scoff and move on. But I had faith in jk and he destroyed it.

[stormblessed95]

Hi Storm,

You were the first account I followed here and I’ve been through almost every post relating to member dynamics on your masterlist.

I’m finding this very hard to articulate but you’ve always said if you receive asks that are respectful you will indulge. I am making a lot of effort in trying to phrase my sentences in such a way that they do not offend and would like to apologise in advance if they do. It is not my intention.

Some time ago, there was discourse on your page where you said jikookers have bullied you and did not support you when you were being bullied. I am not sure when that was. I’m sorry you went through that. You put in a lot of effort to write the member dynamics posts and it’s quite shocking that people don’t respect it, value your effort and then bully you.

During that discussion you said something along the lines of jikookers becoming like taekookers as they allow the abuse of Taehyung. You said the fandom back in the day allowed Taekookers to fester because they didn’t take a harsher stand against what they were doing. I am paraphrasing or maybe I didn’t get the gist of it.

I don’t think jikookers or any other sub set of this fandom is anywhere near Taekookers. The reason is that most ot7 are Taekookers. When the fandom allowed hate against jimin, it gave rise to the most vile fandom and it is the largest part of army’s even today Jimin and his family get bullied and called all names and it’s is allowed because no one can shoot 90% of the fandom down and all those who allowed it are responsible for that shit show.

So then why are people and yes, most are Jikook stans, why are they called out if they so much as criticise Taehyung for some of the things he does? Did he have to join a Jikook show? No, did he have to post those pictures during muse? No. Did he have to name call Jungkook every single live? No. Does he visit fandom spaces? Yes. He sees the shit that goes on in there. Yes. He has sued people because he supposedly wants to stand for those who cannot stand for themselves but is ok when his fans call his fellow member a slut? Can you all not be objective enough to criticise him for this behaviour? Not everyone will like everyone you like, but you are an ot7 army so you should be objective enough to accept criticism too. But instead you shut everyone down? That’s a bit harsh don’t you think?

I say all of the following with respect, I promise. My intention is not for this to read as harsh or rude in any capacity. I'm making this disclaimer now because I know sometimes, it's hard to get tone in text. I'm being straightforward and serious with you. And my tone is meant to be one of kindness, softness and respect while being serious and rather blunt about it.

Anyone who tells me that they didn't see the hate campaign that reigned against me last year is either lying, or brand new to Jikook Tumblr. Or you took a 2 month long break and only came back after I was on hiatus, which then, if you checked my account at all, you still would've seen it. I guess the last option was that you just never checked my page until I came back. I'd much rather if anyone would bring it up, just be honest. Yeah, I saw that, I was silent, my bad, it was a mistake. Or it wasn't a mistake, I agreed with your haters and I'm still just here because I want your content. Whatever it is, I would much rather the honesty. Idk which of these categories you fall into, if any, but why bring it up just to try and discredit my feelings about jikookers and toxic behaviors being allowed to fester? I stand by what I said. You don't have to agree with me. That's your prerogative. I have never tried to tell people how to feel, I've only ever said that I will curate my space and use my block button freely to stop from seeing opinions I have no desire to see.

True OT7s are not taekookers, follow better people. Idk what else to tell y'all about that. When I say toxic behaviors being allowed to fester, I mean that taekookers way back when weren't nearly so bad as they are now. It used to be the same petty bullshit that so many shippers are now pulling. Except it never got checked, so it grew and festered and boiled until it's now as bad as it is with taekookers. If you don't stop the same petty revenge toxicity in Jikookers now, the same thing will end up occuring. And I don't want to see anyone complain to me in a few years about it, because all I'll be able to say is I told you so.

The last part of your message dear, just reads as essentially asking permission to be hateful towards Tae. Idk if that was your intention, but it's how it comes across to me at least. It's not criticism. There is stuff we can be critical about towards our idols, BTS included. Nothing you listed is worth criticism and is just things his antis use to bring hate against him. It's the same thing that tkkrs do. Nitpick stupid stuff to give themselves a reason to hate on Jimin. It's not worth it. And you will be a happier person in long run if you stop trying to hate Tae and just hate the antis that are the ones responsible for their own behaviors.

I'm not shutting anyone down (this is also the phrase that makes me question if you truly "don't know anything about me being bullied") I am saying I won't tolerate any kind of hate speech on MY blog about any of the 7 members. (even if you don't think it's hateful, on my blog, I have the right to decide what is and isn't discussed. Other blogs will draw different lines in the sand, and you can find GCs, or Start your own blog where you can say whatever you want. That's the beauty of the Internet.) You can do whatever you want in your own spaces. I personally, want nothing to do with it. I have bigger fish to worry about it. I'm here for BTS, all 7 of them. And I'm more concerned about k-media and the harassment our boys suffer from them and antis of all kind. Way more than I could ever pretend to be concerned about Tae talking about one of his best friends.

And again, I sign off with this whole thing respectfully, and with the hope that you also, take no offense to the way I phrased anything. Even if you disagree.

~ Storm 💜

[theangryjikooker]

Do TKK think V's cheating on Jennie with JK or cheating on JK with Jennie, cause there's no way to exclude her now. As for JKK, they make me so mad sometimes because they've had it easy & enough real sus behavior from Jikook to snack on for years, yet they make it complicated. Jikook as a ship has sailed for years, maybe louder at times, but still sailing. Look at JK during his JM live. If he turned to the cam & said I have a crush on JM, I would've believed him without doubt. He looked smitten.

Reality doesn't exist in shipping spaces, that's why.

I said this to someone in my DMs, but it's now a practice amongst shippers that every single Jikook (and any ship, generally speaking) moment is artificially inflated to have more significance than it (probably) realistically does. When others take away from those narratives to provide a perspective that neutralizes it, it's seen as this affront to Jikook's bond because of the initial importance placed upon their interactions. The constant, knee-jerk reactions to this is immensely stupid to me because even if I were to deconstruct the majority of moments that other Jkkrs have long held in high regard (and I have), the moments remaining are still properly significant in their own right.

[8531nimkook]

as someone who has never tried to label what jikook have as anything more than "hella sus", none of the recent events *ahem* have made me want to jump ship yet.

as long as *the pattern* doesn't break, they're still hella sus to me.

*the pattern* is something ive observed for the last 2 years almost unfailingly.

its just this:

when jk has a schedule, jm is usually either 1. out and about with his friends or 2. also on a schedule.

when jm has a schedule, jk is either 1. at home doing a live/active on socmed or 2. seen out and about with his friends or 3. also on schedule.

when neither of them have a schedule, they disappear off the face of the planet. its crickets. you don't even notice until one of them appears at the airport and the other one is out with friends 2 days later.

as far as im concerned, that is still *the pattern* of their behavior so.

still hella sus

[not-goldy]

Anon, this is a ZEN space today okay. Breathe in. Breathe out.

By your logic, did it occur to you maybe PJM's do know about Jikook & that's why they're triggered? Didn't see that curveball coming did you? 95% of PJM's are homophobic, think Jimin is straight or want him to be straight for themselves. They're deranged jealous over him & hate JK cause he's the one who gets Jimin's motor running. You don't have to ship Jikook to see their closeness, chemistry, flirting, sus behavior, their tones & language & dropping of honorifics they use with each other which real k-army (not shippers) has said is couple dialogue at times, even shaking them to their core. Funny, they've made jokes about JK and other & men and Jimin & other men. Anyone but JIkook. PJM's don't know these men & at the end of the day PJM's are shippers like everyone else. They ship themselves with Jimin. If you don't believe in Jikook. Cool, but stay away from spaces that do.

See how easy this conversation could be flipped in Jikook's favor? You're wasting time here. Maybe it's time you anons go buy yourself something pretty to make yourselves feel better, instead of coming to Jikookers & seeking validation. It's like you want us to validate your opinions so bad, so YOU can sleep at night. Sorry darling, but we don't share your opinion. We are at peace. Now go relieve some stress dear. It causes wrinkles.

Snort laugh

[kanmom51]

Hello! i know this is old but just wanted to talk about hickey gate. I know this has been discussed already multiple times, but I still can't understand one thing..

What was the thought process of BH ??? what did they hope to achieve by releasing that video??? What was the reason???

They knew the impact it would have, they knew people would talk about it, they knew how risky it was..i mean it made a lot of noise on the k-side.. yet they still released it?

Just why? were they testing waters? is this way for them to kinda prepare the audience by constantly releasing more and more sus moments? And if it continues like this, if we get more extremely suspicious moments, just how long until media really start questioning the nature of their relationship?

See this kind of thing is the reason why I don't believe they want to stay hidden? I personally don't expect anything from them, it's their private life after all, but i don't really agree with some of you thinking they'll stay in their glass closet forever (but i totally respect your opinions!!) it's just that for me, it's kind of contradicting? If they wanted to, they would never be as loud as they are. And the fact that it intensifies each year.. I mean we tend to think they are doing a great job at hiding behind skinship/fanservice and so on but honestly... look at the number of times they have slipped up already.. moments that have absolutely no reasonable explainations. More and more people are noticing, even antis. The mere fact that they go out of their ways to justify jikook's actions just proves they obviously know something fishy is going on. They just choose to not believe it because they're afraid.

Plus, realistically speaking, even in the far future, BTS will always be in the spotlight. People will speculate about their private life forever. There's no escaping. I don't think they will want to hide forever, it's way too much hassle. It entails too much sacrifices. I'm saying this not only for jikook but also for the other boys if ever they have partners. And the boys' recent behavior has shown me that they are starting to get more and more comfortable with their actions. it's giving me "idgaf anymore about what people will think"

what do you think?

Your ask anon, it is old news, and something I have talked about in the past.

BUT...

I've just been watching the cutest show ever, called Heartstopper on Netflix, based on a webtoon story.

A love story in the making between two teenage boys in an all boy school in England.

The reason I bring this up is because in episode 3 Nick, one of the two boys, the one that is struggling with his sexuality, talks to a girl at a party, someone he's pushed at by his friends, someone he kissed when he was 13, and she tells him she is in a relationship with another girl, that she is a lesbian. She tells him they are mostly keeping it quiet. Nick asks her "so why are you telling me?", and her answer, that hit me, because that was Jikook in an essence over the past 4 years, more so in the past couple of years.

THAT !!!

Just that.

Feels to me like a word to word conversation JM and JK had.

I have written about this push and pull over the years many times, and here are a couple of past posts (you can find more in my masterlist):

As for wanting to stay in their glass closet or not, well, I don't think that wanting to be able to be themselves and not hide contradicts with not wanting to make the formal announcement. What we've seen over the past couple or even 3 years is that no matter how obvious they are, including an ear sucking and a confirmed hickey, people just don't want to see it. They don't want to see what's obviously there. And at the moment that is the best course of action for them. They keep pushing the line further and further, allowing them to be themselves with each other (almost totally), all while not spelling it out (something that would have clear repercussions on them, their careers, the band and their friends and family).

You are right that people are seeing, but they are so blinded by their homophobia that they find every single illogical reason why it's not what it actually looks like, lol.

As for what the future holds, who knows.

Will they officially 'come out'? That would be huge, not only for the LGBTQ+ community in SK, but also worldwide. But it will also effect them, and I don't know if they are ready to pay the price. They could live their lives and whoever will know or speculate will do just that. They most probably wouldn't be outed in SK, because that's something that just isn't done there. It's when they are overseas that they will have to be more careful. And the more they stretch the boundaries and continue to fly under the radar, well they can continue to act the way they are at the moment and no one will be the wiser (well, except for those that love and support them anyway).

[naneun-no]

https://youtu.be/g38D6HVzn8w

At 1.13

I mean isn't it so weird and strange that Rm asked both of them that?? Why would he ask something like that if jikook were actually a couple?? Doesn't rm know that they were dating or maybe jikook actually not together that is why rm asked them that like in a teasing way which normally friends do when you saw ur other friends wear something matching. This moment always makes me confused.

I might be the wrong person to ask cause I’m of the opinion that if they’re dating they probably didn’t actually make anything official or formally tell other members until much more recently than a lot of other jikookers think. I personally think they probably wavered in the not-quite-just-friends-but-not-quite-dating space for quite a while, years in fact, and I think it’s where a lot of the awkwardness/palpable tension and nervousness in some of their early interactions stemmed from.

And Namjoon’s question still remains — why did they do that stuff? The matchy-matchy couple-y stuff? Cause they didn’t exactly say “no” did they 😅

Not to mention the same thing happened when Jin blurted “are you two together” during the palm pushing game here:

And him asking that does nothing to take away from the flirtatiousness of that entire interaction, so. If anything it just highlights how sus their behavior is.

I might have mentioned this before but I don’t go around looking for single moments to “debunk” the theory that Jimin and Jung Kook have something romantic going on. I’m not that insecure, at least not anymore haha. To me it’s obvious, from their behavior and treatment of each other when you look at them as a whole and not through some skeptical, conspiracy-theorist lens. Think what you want but any attempts to get me to go “omg you’re right it must all be a sham and I imagined everything” are gonna fall flat every time. It is what it is, friend 🫤

I’m a small fish though so maybe try someone else — you might get lucky and convert a much bigger blogger than me. Do you become a Level 5 Laser Lotus if you do that?