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“And CERTAINLY not when you say the shit you do about Jimin” that part

That part is what really gets me because wdym you love Jungkook but hate his literal other half?? Like. Please understand that whether you’re his fan or not at that point, he wouldn’t like you. He’d see one single one of your anti-Jimin tweets and be like “oh that bitch? I don’t fuck with them.”

Like, you could be the most DEDICATED fan who streams him for years on end and buys music and votes and whatever the fuck else you think makes you relevant to him and if he found out you were a jm anti he would be a YOU anti.

jimin lives rent free in jk solos' minds i dont think i have seen a single one that doesnt bring up jimin religiously

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NVM IT’S NOT THE ONLY BLUE NAIL okay I can breathe

There’s also a blue on on his pointer finger on his other hand and I just now saw it when I saw him shake the life out of Jimin’s hand. IGNORE ME. (But why did he shake his hand so hard lmao) (channeled his nerves right into his boyfriend fidget toy)

*sobbing* remember when he said he thought painting his nails would be cool?? And- and now he’s a free man and he can do it if I he wants to 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

And he painted them all badly and cutely and mismatched and they match his hat and are the exact shade of blue of Jimin’s pullover and I —

*sobs harder*

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Wait wait hold on I just noticed that the only blue nail is also over the J M….😩😩😩

I TRY TO BE RATIONAL I SWEAR TO GOD, IT’S JIKOOK THAT MAKE ME DELUSIONAL

*sobbing* remember when he said he thought painting his nails would be cool?? And- and now he’s a free man and he can do it if I he wants to 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

And he painted them all badly and cutely and mismatched and they match his hat and are the exact shade of blue of Jimin’s pullover and I —

*sobs harder*

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*sobbing* remember when he said he thought painting his nails would be cool?? And- and now he’s a free man and he can do it if I he wants to 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

And he painted them all badly and cutely and mismatched and they match his hat and are the exact shade of blue of Jimin’s pullover and I —

*sobs harder*

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“Maybe the trips, the interactions, the time spent together — maybe it’s just because they want to.”

Can this just be the standard? Can we just go ahead and normalize this as the assumption? Like. Always? Going forward? With all content? With all the choices they make?

I genuinely don’t get this whole “fanservice” narrative. Like, have we all been watching the same thing lately? From what’s been going on these past few days, it honestly feels like Jikook is one of the most hated pairings on social media right now. The general fandom doesn’t seem to enjoy seeing them together, not even a little. People have been absolutely vile towards Jimin, and now they’ve turned on Jungkook too, openly hating on both of them.

So seriously, who exactly are they meant to be “serving”? Because let’s be real here – Jikookers are clearly the minority when it comes to online presence. If they’re doing this for fans, then it’s certainly not for us, because we’re outnumbered, overshadowed, and frankly, ignored most of the time. And even if, by some miracle, it is for us, are we really meant to believe that facing this level of public backlash and constant toxicity is somehow worth it? Is that really all they get in return for “serving” us?

Forget the company, forget BigHit or HYBE or whatever people want to blame – let’s just think about Jimin and Jungkook as actual people. Would putting themselves through this storm of hatred be worth it just for a bit of fanservice? I honestly don’t think so.

So maybe – and hear me out – it’s not fanservice. Perhaps these moments between them are real. Maybe the trips, the interactions, the time they spend together – maybe it’s just because they want to. Maybe they actually enjoy each other’s company, and travelling together is simply something they chose for themselves.

Not everything has to be scripted. Not every moment has to be for us. Sometimes, two people might just be close because they genuinely care about each other. And perhaps that’s what’s really happening here – not some fan-directed performance, but a real connection that just keeps showing itself, whether people like it or not.

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Hey. I have a query. South korea criminalizes/does not allow same sex relationships in the military. Now assuming, JM and JK are in one, would it not be dangerous for them to enlist in a buddy system together? Not saying they will actually engage in a relationship whilst in the military, but its a risk a couple would not take. I've heard of many people that were punished for this and same sex couples actually take care not to be together whilst serving or they serve at different times. Whats your take on this?

Hmmm okay, so I debated for a while on whether to answer this because as funny as it might sound for a shipping blog I don’t actually like to just make up stuff about them. lol, I mainly react to their official content and the behavior I can see. Anything I can’t/don’t see, I don’t spend a lot of energy theorizing about because there are so many unknown variables it’s a waste of time, not to mention not my business. But I think your ask has some baked-in assumptions, and I think it can be fun to challenge those sort of as an exercise in critical thinking.

So, I’m going to answer this, but with the HUGE disclaimer that I’m answering this for the thought experiment, but I’m not putting forward actual theories and suggestions, because I don’t care to and it’s not my business. I’m just musing. I hope that distinction makes sense.

(Also, based on some of your phrasing, I’m thinking your mind is already made up. But, that’s okay, I’ll still play!)

When it comes to stuff like this, what I try to do is remember that everything is theories. Like. There’s so little we actually know about their lives and relationships and sexuality. We know:

1) they’re close — whether just friends or more than that — just saying in terms of how often they see each other, how many of the same jokes they make, how comfortable they seem; they’re close.

2) they chose to enlist in the Buddy system

3) they saw each other regularly during that time — slept in the same room, apparently showered together, knew the same people, referenced each other when they talked to us about how things were going.

So, orienting ourselves around what we do know is step 1. Then step 2 is to open our minds and realize that there are so many different ways that the truth could exist and manifest. I can think a few different scenarios off the top of my head that could be true, but there are a hundred more that would never occur to me. And, remember, whats true is not my business. It’s not really anyone’s, unless jikook want it to be. This is purely a thought experiment.

1. So, one possible scenario — say they’re in a fully committed, secret, named relationship (named meaning they have defined the relationship, and it’s an official, romantic designation like “boyfriends” or whatever). If that’s the case, couldn’t we assume that they would move a little differently than most ppl in same sex relationships already? Like just as a baseline, they’d already be very experienced at hiding the true nature of their relationship. They are wildly famous and have been for several years. Maybe we say that old dispatch theory (about them being on the list of couples that would be leaked) is true — they would have had YEARS of practice avoiding detection, and 18 months in a relatively private location such as military barracks wouldn’t really be that big of an exception. Would it be difficult? Sure. But we could reasonably assume that even if they were in a confirmed relationship, that they would already be used to prolonged absence, distance, and all the other relationship challenges that celebrities are KNOWN for having.

And they would have had all those challenges while being closeted.

“It is a risk a couple would not take” I mean. Maybe it’s a risk YOU wouldn’t take. But a couple who is used to being scrutinized constantly, filmed constantly, exposed to prying eyes constantly? I could see it being worth the risk, especially if quality time and ability to see/lean on each other felt more important, and felt worth the risk of possibly being exposed if they slipped up.

2. Another possibility — they’re “just friends”! Maybe they’ve explored being further, maybe they haven’t, maybe they have a star-crossed, longing-filled friendship. Maybe they pine and long and know that they’re more than friends, but haven’t taken that final jump yet. I see no reason why that sort of friends-but-not-just-friends dynamic couldn’t exist (and cause them to grow even closer and more connected) through an 18-month enlistment.

3. They’re actually just friends! Could be that. Always always always a possibility. I would say the companion enlistment would suggest best friends, actually. Like. Best man in each other’s wedding, families travel together, buy houses in the same retirement community best friends.

And a million other possibilities that we’re not privy to!!

Wow this got long (she says, again, every time). But ya know, just trying to show that your assumptions are just that, assumptions! The assumption that enlisting together is a risk “a couple would never take” is just as presumptive as the assumption that they might find the risk a worthy one, which is just as presumptive as assuming they’re only friends, or they secretly got married in Las Vegas, or any other idea. The enlistment is not the shutdown you think it is — all it really shows us is that they matter enough to each other to choose being together for 18 months, even if it meant going to a more dangerous location.

Your desire to believe that it shuts down any possibility of a romantic relationship just reveals how willing you are to disbelieve the idea that they could be more than just friends, nothing else. Cause you could think outside the box! But you don’t want to.

And that’s cool! I can’t stress this enough: it doesn’t really matter. And I’ve always said that.

The only people whose lives should be affected by jikook’s relationship status is Jimin and Jungkook. And the other members I guess, because Hoseok would probably be sad if he found out they’re not in love 🤣 (I’m kidding! For legal reasons I’m kidding)

Whether we read romance, or pining, or a platonic friendship when we look at them — let’s respect the bond they show us.

Thanks for the ask!

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Am I the only one who thinks Jimin made this face and got so sarcastically serious and stared unblinking for like 4 seconds as a way to respond to everyone who got mad that he traveled after discharge instead of *immediately* walking into a recording studio?

https://x.com/busanacess/status/1940048589105107048?s=46

lol him being like “I promise I will focus on the music, I SWEAR TO YOU. I WILL SING REALLY DILIGENTLY! No need to panic!”

🤣

Just a theory of course. Anyways, seeing them all together laughing and joking and grabbing each other knit something back together in the fabric of the universe, so.

So, so glad to see them.

And they look older!!!! They look older. And it’s beautiful.

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I agree with your post about Jikook being best friends at the very least, and would also like to add that a big issue in the army fandom is being so scared of being called a shipper that they almost start to be anti-duo, Jikook especially…like to so many the idea of being seen as a shipper is just unbearable so they conveniently ignore/try to convince themselves and everyone else that Jikook aren’t any closer than any other two members despite all the evidence to the contrary. It’s sad and does such a disservice not only to Jikook but to all the other members too. There are seven unique individuals in BTS, and they all have unique interpersonal bonds with each other, and it’s so dismissive of them and their individuality to act like they’re all the same, but treating them as individuals is also hard for this fandom and that’s a whole other discussion. Any way I’m rambling now, hope this makes sense!

I think it makes a ton of sense! One of the most interesting things about BTS as a band is the amount of interpersonal relationship that gets to be explored and observed. There’s seven of them — that’s a decent amount of people! There’s a lot of different dynamics when they’re all together, and when they’re in smaller groupings as well.

I do think it’s interesting what you mean about people downplaying duos — I honestly can’t say I’ve seen it as much with other duos, but I do remember it particularly happening with Jimin and J-Hope when he went to see him at Lollapalooza. Like I remember people being like kind of giggly and blushy about how they seemed, and then a bunch of people coming along like “stop making them seem gay!! They’re not!!” Have you seen it with a lot of the other duos too?

I think you’re right that shipping is just seen as so hideous and gross, and I will admit that there are a lot of shades of gray to it. I don’t think it’s always innocuous or innocent. But it is weird that there is such a culture of being okay with it when it comes to certain celebrities, but totally shut down for others. And it does seem to align with whether or not they’re straight or not…

And yeah, with BTS specifically there seems to be a reluctance to compare any of their bonds. I think a lot of people object to making comparisons in general, so maybe that’s part of it. So then it just turns into “they all love each other equally” and I think they all do love each other equally! But it’s so interesting to sort of examine the differences in all their relationships and when you paint them all with the same broad brush those intricacies are totally lost.

Also, sorry, I turned off anonymous asks. Totally not because of asks like yours, but I’d just rather people ask me stuff with their username turned on so we can be on more equal footing. It’s the rude people that make me do it!

So if you wanted to continue the convo but don’t feel comfortable anymore, I’m sorry! My DMs are open and I promise I’m approachable. Thanks for the ask!

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1. You get what you seek. And it shows that you have made it so that on your side that is all you see because you purposely seek it out. You do realize that on SM when you see post and go into comments sections, it’s different for everyone. You know this right?! You built your algorithm to be what you wanted it to be. I never see these things you guys speak of. On my side none of these things pop up. I didn’t build my algorithm with purposeful hate. That was all your own doing. Maybe it’s time to start over and build it with actual positivity because you and the rest sound like you’ve gone off the deep end.

2. Let me preface this with I am 🏳️‍🌈 and what you and the lot are doing is literally one of the most disrespectful and scary things you could do to someone who may be 🏳️‍🌈. “But we do it to show love and support!” Nope! You are doing damage and it’s scary. You literally scare us! Never actually taking the time to think of what this could do to them. You just want your “Ha Ha I was right!” point made. You can see it in all of your guys posts. They are just token to you and you have definitely proven that. You guys are the ones giving ammo to the people who hate us (and risking our lives, how do you not get that!?!! Especially the two grown men you are speaking about!

3. I say this sincerely but you (and the rest of you) need help. I highly recommend therapy because you have gone waaay past parasocial…… Others people opinions (which they are allowed to have, just like you have, and you’re stating they aren’t) should never matter to you this much. You are spending too much time in a world where you don’t even exist to them instead of living in the real world. You put more time and effort into their lives and those who hate them, than on your life. Do you deep dive your life this much? Do you deep dive current events this much? People are literally being slaughtered and dying all over the world right now. I understand the need to escape because of how bad the world is right now (trust me I get it) but you guys aren’t even diving into a good thing. If their lives make you happy then sure enjoy it and be happy but you and the lot seem to focus more on the hate and fighting than just staying in the happy bubble that has been created. Stay within the content and leave out all the rest. You are doing yourself and those guys a disservice doing all that. If you truly care about them, love them (like you claim), and care you wouldn’t be behaving this way. Report and block buttons exist for a reason!

4. This was probably a waste of time because you will all remain the same, but I tried. I wish people thought more of the consequences of their actions and especially what that does to those you are “fighting” for.

Hi, so, I’m gonna attempt to answer this in good faith, even though I don’t necessarily think it was asked in good faith (especially since you did it anonymously, but that’s cool. I turned on anons for the first time in years because I felt open to being challenged and discussing, and that’s what you brought). I am a fan of self-reflection, even though you (without knowing me at all) suggested that I’m not — so let’s give it a go.

1. Sorry… gotta ask. How did you come across this post exactly? You know, given the positivity and purity of your own algorithm?

Ah, I had to, sorry. But you see how it works?

I don’t “build my algorithm with purposeful hate” either. That was, in my opinion, an unnecessarily spiteful and self-congratulatory thing to say. I also wasn’t referring in my last post to hate — I was referring to the way that a lot of this fandom refuses to acknowledge Jimin and Jungkook’s particular closeness. Idk what kind of algorithm you want me to have, but given that I am responding to what “normal” army — presumably people like you — are saying, I don’t really get your point.

2. Okay, you’re 🏳️‍🌈. I’m going to give you a spoiler alert and let you know that a lot of “this lot” is 🏳️‍🌈. You might be aware that gay people are not a monolith.

For some people, the bond that they’ve seen between Jungkook and Jimin and the people that celebrate it has helped them find solace and encouragement and empowered them in their sexuality. I have had discussions about that with gay people on this very site. So while you evidently find this kind of shipping discourse a wholly bad thing, not every gay person does.

I think for a lot of gay people, when they witness and react to Jungkook and Jimin’s content, they have raised eyebrows and wonder if they are closeted. I’m bisexual myself, and I wondered about Jimin a long time ago, but idk. I could be wrong. I don’t think he’s particularly scared of being seen as bisexual, but maybe I am projecting.

I’m genuinely sorry that you felt scared or threatened by my post or my words. I did not intend what I said to be a scary thing, but if it felt that way to you regardless, I apologize. I have no desire to use any gay people (or any people period) as a token or a chess piece. To be honest, sometimes it can get kind of competitive on here when talking about different fandom takes, and you’re right about that. I don’t really see my most recent post as a “ha ha I win” post, I more just was sort of frustrated by the way people tend to refuse to talk about jikook in a normal way, in the way they would talk about any other celebrity duo — but in doing so, I suppose I end up not talking about them in a normal way myself. And that’s fair to call out!

When you say “what I’m doing is dangerous for them” I think I need to better understand what you mean. Genuinely. I’m not sure how saying “hm, I see something here but maybe I’m wrong” is dangerous. I have not spread or reposted any photos people took without their consent. I have not followed them (ever) or gone to where they are to take photos or share their location without their consent. I have not called for anyone to do them harm. In fact, maybe it will cheer you to hear that almost my entire algorithm is people shaming and discouraging others from sharing the intrusive photos and videos. And I agree.

If you’re suggesting that more people seeing content that points out that they may be gay will make more people think they’re gay, which would then make them more visible to people who may wish to harm them — okay. Maybe. I doubt that hateful, homophobic people are trolling the ship tags on tumblr, of all places, but maybe. I removed their names from the tags of the post so that only the ship names are tagged (so that people who are okay with encountering that kind of content will be the ones to see it. Hopefully. And the good people with good algorithms won’t).

Listen. I do not want to put them in danger. I am reacting to their public behavior and the language I see surrounding it. I posted this on a blog site that is generally a pretty safe space for the 🏳️‍🌈 intentionally. I do not post very much about them on X and I do not post at all about them elsewhere.

Still, I’m sorry to hear that you find my post exploitative or scary. If I may make an intrusive suggestion similar to the ones you made — maybe you should avoid this kind of discourse if it causes you distress. Then again, you wouldn’t get the ego boost of telling me all the ways I’m a yucky, bad, not as good as you person. So maybe keep it in the rotation.

3. Point number 3. It’s a big one. Most of it is absolutely none of your business, but I’m going to address it anyways. I’m also choosing to believe you meant this with the best of intentions and that the preachy, holier-than-thou tone was unintentional and just a product of how much better than me you think you are.

Which is fine, and I mean this genuinely: maybe you are healthier than me! Maybe whatever impulse drove you into a stranger’s inbox to anonymously recommend that they seek therapy is healthier than the impulse I had to rant on my own blog about a trend I’ve noticed in a fandom I’m a part of. If you are mentally healthier than me, please accept my congratulations. I wish you many warm cups of herbal tea while your feet touch grass and the sun shines on your cheeks. I wish that for everyone, really.

But anonymous hall monitor, hear me when I say this: You don’t know me at all.

I don’t know the two grown men I wrote about either — you’re right! I yap, and I rant, and I tap up silly essays with very little editing, but it actually is a lot less deep to me than it probably seems like it is. Know why? Because you happened to come to a place where this is the only thing I do. The title of the blog is “ranting & writing & shipping” or something to that effect. I have reserved this space specifically for silly fandom thoughts about two celebrities. In the same way that some people have blogs for Tom and Zendaya, and some have blogs about certain reality shows. I have never written about them in a way that suggests I know them in any way other than a fan “knows” an idol. I only ever make comments on the content they have shared with us through official channels. I may seem as though all I am is a brain dead, zombified shipper, but I am other things too. I just am not those things here, because I have reserved this little space for that.

Is it the healthiest of my hobbies? Probably not. You’re right about that. But rest assured, random stranger who does not know or care about me in any way, other than the moral high ground you awarded yourself at my expense — I do have other hobbies.

I actually do, believe it or not, “dive this deep” in my personal life. I do in fact stay informed on current events and I do in fact have hot takes on things other than this one topic. It’s just that this blog, which you somehow came across and then trolled for evidence to back up your anonymous takedown of me, is pretty much only about this one topic.

I get that you think you know me because you’ve read a few of my posts, but they are typically typed up in a whirlwind of random half-baked thoughts formed during an hour or so spent online and then never really thought of again. I’m a good writer, so maybe that makes you think I spend more time on these posts than I actually do. In actuality, I have spent far longer trying to fairly and without too much defensiveness respond to this ask. Believe me, if anything has inspired me to log off for the day, it’s you. So. Well done.

You so magnanimously suggested that “my lot” should choose to only see the positive and not engage with the negative. Setting aside the fact that PLENTY of my posts are positive, and about the music, and fashion, and hyping them up, you just haven’t seen those ones (darn it! Why didn’t your perfect algorithm show you my nice, happy posts? I promise they exist): If you’re taking issue with the overall tone of my last post — which was a bit sarcastic, a bit argumentative, I’ll give you that — then maybe my style just isn’t for you? I promise I am not having a bad day because people don’t see Jungkook and Jimin the exact same way I do. I promise I’m allowing people to have their opinions, even if my phrasing made you think I’m not. In fact, I’d argue that I might be more tolerant of different opinions than you are. Sure, I made a rant post on my own blog space about how I’m annoyed with a certain trend. But you’re the one who sought out my inbox and told me to seek help. So which one of us is less tolerant of an online stranger’s opinion?

4. I suspect this might have been a waste of my time, too. It’s why I closed anonymous asks years ago; because I got tired of hearing vitriol from strangers. But I like to imagine that we’re all real people, behind the screens, so here’s my good faith summary:

You’re right, I probably am too invested in a relationship that doesn’t involve me. I should have learned my lesson from Channing and Jenna (and Tia and Cory 😭) to stop getting invested in celeb relationships 😅. I actually have a long, unpublished draft about the obsessive culture of shipping in fandom, of which I am guilty! and how and why we become so hooked on this particular stimulus, and all the healthy and unhealthy results it can have, and blah blah blah.

But I don’t think you care about that. Because you don’t care about me. You don’t know me. You’re not a friend. You’re not someone who can provide tough love and tell me what I need to hear, because there is no love to begin with. Your ask reeked of judgement, and shaming, and accusatory finger-pointing, not of genuine concern. Your ask was to make you feel better, it was an outlet for the emotions my post brought up for you — nothing more.

You could have posted about the concerning trend of shipping in fandom on your own blog (and maybe you have, I don’t know). But instead you chose to come to the space I have for myself where I talk about BTS fandom and how it relates to two of the members and tell me I need to seek help. All because I pointed out that people don’t call Jimin and Jungkook best friends, when they clearly are.

You’re too invested too, babe. And that’s the beautiful hypocrisy of it all. “Don’t engage with the negative!!” While sending me a hateful ask. “Other people’s opinions shouldn’t matter to you this much!” How much? Enough to write a silly rant post, or enough to crawl into someone’s asks and accuse them of “not living in the real world”?

Maybe I am an embarrassing person for poring over shit that doesn’t concern me, for finding joy in a relationship I observe from afar. Maybe I’m a loser and I need to step back (I’ve stepped back before, I do it often. You wouldn’t know that, because you don’t know me). But I made a non-direct, untargeted rant post that you could have scrolled past. I was primarily just preaching to the choir. But you took it a step further by sending me a targeted, personal, insulting message designed to make me feel bad. Do you see the difference, in our two posts?

I think while I’m self-reflecting, maybe you should too.

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“Just because they’re close doesn’t mean they’re in a relationship, stop sexualizing everything they do”

Then call them best friends, Becky. Say it. Say that Jimin and Jungkook are connected-at-the-hip-share-a-single-brain-cell-soulmate-level best friends. Just like Jimin and Tae, right? Say it.

Actually, be specific and call them the closest duo in Bangtan, because at a minimum that’s what they are. Like, if you don’t want to say they’re each other’s real life best friend (meaning outside of BTS), at least say that they are closer to each other than they are to any other member — because you can at least acknowledge that, right?

And if you’re so sure they’re “brothers” then celebrate it! Stop pretending it isn’t special, call it a bromance! Ooh and ah over it, like people do when married male actors have a public bromance. Call them the next Ryan Reynolds and Hugh Jackman, the next Woody Harrelson and Matthew McConaughey. (Even if, rather than publicly roasting and joking with each other; they are more often than not sweetly supportive and flirtatiously complimentary…That’s fine, call them a CHEESY bromance).

But nobody will.

It’s either, “ALL SEVEN of them are so close and love each other like brothers” or “Jungkook has such a big crush on Namjoon 🤭” or “vmin are still the closest, they have a song about it!” or “Korean men have skinship in their friendships, shippers are so weird, stop projecting your fantasies” but it’s never “ah, well, season 2 of that soft little show? No one is surprised. As expected from the best friends who enlisted in the military under a rare, special Buddy system. Jikook are jikook. Of course they want to hang out together 24-7.”

People flood to the comments section to (very mildly, with much restraint) praise their bond, but NO ONE will call it the closest in the group, even though it objectively is. Well, no one but a subset of the fandom who immediately get called creeps and weirdos and fetishizers.

No one but shippers will acknowledge their closeness and it’s so obvious why:

Because if you acknowledge their closeness, if you do anything but minimize and ignore it, it starts to look a whole lot like something else.

And people are too homophobic to allow that.

Jungkook and Jimin enlisting together under a Buddy system that no other idols in the same group have ever used shows closeness.

Jungkook and Jimin filming not just one but TWO seasons of a travel show that primarily follows JUST the TWO of them (when they are part of a band of 7) shows CLOSENESS.

Jungkook going to Jimin’s house after a concert to cook him dinner and then the two of them going out the next day to presumably spend White Day together shows CLOSE. NESS.

Jungkook going live in 2023 every time Jimin left town, and mentioning Jimin relentlessly and making him flat out the entire topic of some of the lives shows that Jungkook thinks of him when he’s gone.

Jungkook complaining that he missed Jimin when they were both busy, Jungkook saying he wants to film travel shows with Jimin until they’re 50, Jimin mentioning Jungkook in the letters he posted while enlisted alongside him, Jungkook’s voice giggling from behind the camera while he films Jimin’s dance challenge for him…

Jimin saying if he could take one thing with him to a desert island it would be Jungkook. Jungkook saying if he was a girl he’d want to date a guy like Jimin. Jungkook showing up with a hickey Jimin gave him because they got drunk together and Jungkook wouldn’t stop spinning him in his arms. The same arms he proudly carried Jimin out of a concert with, while Jimin giggled and blushed.

Jason Momoa and Henry Cavill? Tom Holland and Jake Gylenhaal? Selena and Taylor? THEY COULD NEVER.

Everything jikook shows us points to a best-friendness of EPIC PROPORTIONS at the LEAST. They should be the best friend duo that gets talked about the MOST IN BANGTAN. They’re so close locals should know about it. Not Jimin and Hobi. Not Jimin and Taehyung. Not Hoseok and Yoongi. Not Yoongi and Namjoon. Not Jungkook and Jin. Not the maknae line. Jikook have lapped all of them, and they have for years, but ESPECIALLY in the last 3 years.

And in the last two weeks? In the last two/three WEEKS???

If Jungkook and Jimin were a man and a woman the events of the last two weeks would be a HARD LAUNCH, and EVERYONE KNOWS IT.

It is only — I repeat: ONLY — heteronormativity that keeps the majority of ARMY from assuming they are dating. That’s it. That’s literally the only reason anyone in the fandom is even arguing about what they are right now. (Well, that and rival ships, which at this point should really only be referred to as patched-together inflatable rafts).

Call them just best friends. I respect that take! Some people don’t see the romance and tension and affection that I see, and that’s cool! Call them the best of friends.

But for the love of god stop minimizing their closeness. Stop pretending they treat anyone else in the band the way they treat each other. Stop pretending that they’re not choosing each other over and over and over again.

And don’t call them fake, or forced, unless you want to talk about the fact that everything we see about them is official content. Not unless you want to pry open the can of worms that is your parasocial relationship with them and acknowledge the hard truth that you actually don’t know either of them at all.

But one thing we know? They know each other. Like. Reaaaaallly well.

[naneun-no]

Never thought I’d see the day that J-Hope became J-Hoe but I’m not complaining 🙌 do your thing baby!! Sunshine isn’t just there to light things up, it’s also there to make ya sweat!!!

250622 Hoseok/j-hope Show! Music Core update (photos)

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This part 😭😭😭 they really said “hi and bye” like… happy for you I guess?? But we were supposed to get 10 lives of nonstop stories?? Stories so juicy you couldn’t tell them to Hoseok over the phone?? All men do is lie

We all want what Jimin has 😔

I miss them 😭

[naneun-no]

EXACTLY THIS IS WHAT I’M SAYING, WHY ARE THEY SO BOLD ABOUT HOW DELUSIONAL THEY ARE. HOW DO THEY SAY THIS SHIT WITH THEIR WHOLE CHESTS AND WITH A STRAIGHT FACE.

GENTE LOCAAAAAA

I try not to post this kind of stuff here because honestly most of the time it’s just not worth it but this time I can’t help myself. These people are absolutely insane. They live in some delusional toxic fantasy world and it honestly feels like one of their main goals in life is to constantly outdo themselves in stupidity both in what they say and what they believe.

Because seriously how else would you explain these kinds of reactions these types of comments? And these are just a few of the many I’ve seen today and mind you I haven’t even been on social media much because I’ve had a pretty busy day.

But please someone explain to me how did these people get to this level of madness and nonsense? All because Jungkook was seen with Jimin? The person he’s known for over ten years? The person he’s shared things with that he hasn’t shared with anyone else? The person he spent 18 months in the army with? Seriously?

Like, are we really pretending this is shocking? As if these two haven’t had a bond that’s been obvious for over a decade now. As if it’s wild or suspicious for two people who’ve been through everything together to simply exist in the same place. It’s not that deep. But some people act like they’ve just uncovered some grand conspiracy, like they’re detectives on some twisted mission when really they’re just spiralling over two people being seen together.

The mental gymnastics these people do to convince themselves of their own delusions is beyond embarrassing. And the worst part is that they’re loud. Loud and proud with their takes as if the rest of us are meant to take them seriously. You can literally feel the desperation jumping out of their tweets.

It’s exhausting. And frustrating. Because it’s not just silly anymore, it’s straight-up disrespectful. It reduces real relationships, real moments, to some sort of fandom game or theory-building playground. And the entitlement? Off the charts.

Honestly, if some of these people spent half as much time touching grass as they do obsessing over two grown men who have made it abundantly clear that they live life on their own terms, the internet would be a much calmer place.

Not my screenshots

[naneun-no]

You guyyyysssss (fandom rant ahead)

I was off X/Twt for a long time because I switched over to bsky and have generally found it to be a much more positive, small space (like I actually have regular, positive interactions with mutuals rather than just shouting into the void and observing dumpster fires, imagine)

But I hopped back on X these last few weeks to keep a closer eye on the discharge stuff, and because army Twitter still pops off sometimes with HILARIOUS memes and takes and content even if generally it’s a hellscape.

But like.

Good GOD is it a hellscape 😫

Do you guys go on there?? Do you see the crazy?? Has it always been like this??

Like I knew tkkrs acted crazy cause I would get their asks in my inbox, but I guess I’m even more delusional than them cause I really thought the taennie “cosplayer” pics combined with AYS and the enlistment would be a wake up call. Guess not 🙂‍↔️🤣

The other ships are fine because I find it cute and funny — it’s a little weird because I’ve spent so much time in my jikook bubble that I forget that there are genuinely vmin and minimoni and namkook and poly truthers out there and that is so funny and odd to me? But like in an amusing, interesting way. They’re not being dicks about it.

But the solos??? THE SOLOS. That’s the worst part maybe?!?! I went down a rabbit hole y’all and they’re out here talking about Jimin like “he gives too much love to the members, they don’t deserve him, I will never respect them” you mean his best friends?? Like I’m not saying he doesn’t have other friends who he’s closer to and who I’ve never seen, and I’m glad he does! And obviously he doesn’t have the same level of connection with every single BTS member at every single moment! But like… he would choose them over you every single time? And every single member would choose Jimin over their solo stans every time? Like what

There are people out there who really try to protect him from six of his closest connections in the world? Ppl who take it upon themselves to be like “get behind me” to a grown man they’ve NEVER MET in order to protect him from HIS OWN FRIENDS. How do they say it with a straight face??? I’m laughing as I write this???

I dont even mind people being solos. Like. I think the forced-OT7-ication of all BTS fans is kind of silly. Why should we expect every single person who stumbles upon BTS to be equally obsessed with each member, or even value them all? I wish they would, but for some people, they just will never click with all 7 — they find a member they gel with, and they support them alone. Fine. Whatever. But then to go out of their way to hate on the others? To craft narratives where the members hate each other and hold each other back when they so clearly are the happiest as a team? Bro how? Why? What? BTS could have disbanded years ago and they didn’t. They didn’t have to renew and they did. Maybe don’t assume you know more about a literal stranger’s life and situation than they do???

And the crazies hide in plain sight. Because I watched AYS with my IRL friend who is 1) an extremely sweet, clever person and 2) a taekooker (she was targeted as a baby army by the bad algorithms and now she’s sucked in) and watched her say “aw they have such a sibling relationship” when jikook cuddled in bed and then watched her squeal and get butterflies when Tae forced JK’s head onto his shoulder (and I’m not saying anything negative about taekook in that moment but it was far from a cutesie coupley moment, even amongst other AYS taekook moments). I just say that to show how wild perspective can be because she truly saw alllll the jikook antics and chalked it up to friendship and saw 3 moments of taekook coexisting platonically and saw it as a grand romance.

And same for me! Like I ship/support/whatever you want to call it jikook, so that’s the lens through which I viewed AYS and the enlistment and the discharge live and all of it. And sure there are so many people who think I’m crazy for being a real person shipper but at least I’m not denying multiple levels of reality to do so?? And I have a healthy sense of self-doubt?? Idk if jikook are anything more than friends, I *think* they are but they could just be friends and I would be like “ah, okay” because I DON’T KNOW THEM.

Sorry this is such a random rant I’m just… I’m in such shock after doomscrolling on X for like an hour. I need one of those eyeball-washers that’s in a chem lab. I need a juice cleanse. I need to spring clean my brain because what in the anti solo fuck did I just read 😭😭😭

I know this is nothing new. I know if any of my followers read this you’re gonna be in the comments like “Nico it’s always been like this where have you been” but idk I guess I had time away and forgot how bad it was. Stay safe out there for real 🥹

[naneun-no]

😭😭😭

Him knowing/mirroring JK’s moves, his gaze LOCKED IN, his grinning lip bites 🥺

I’m only so strong, I can only take so much 😫

BRO WAKE UP (again) CUZ FIRST JIMIN REACTION TO JUNGKOOK’S STAGE JUST DROPPED

😩😓😭to be loved up like that by PARK JIMIN

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And speaking of them getting older…

The amount of people infantilizing Jungkook right now is kinda pissing me off. [editing to say I’m seeing this on X, not on here]

Yeah, it was just a hat. But it was a bad look. He should have looked into it. Which is what he said in his apology. We don’t have to punish him, but we don’t have to infantilize him either. Acting like people are mad because they’re conspiring against him when it’s pretty obvious why it bothered people. Like. 🙄. Put that hat on an American celeb right now, and see what happens.

“Oooh baby 🥺 it’s okay snookums don’t let those meanies make you feel bad”

Bitch, he made a bad call. He’s a grown man. He’s not a baby, he’s not a kid, he’s not an idiot. Let him own it, and apologize (like he did) and move on.

I love and admire him, like a LOT, and I still do and I likely always will. But this is what happens when you idolize people, when you put them on pedestals so high that they have no choice but to fall or be held up by your stubbornness. You gaslight people who they hurt because “my baby could never” instead of holding them accountable.

Excellent apology on his part — he got right to the point, quickly, and he didn’t mince words, and that’s why he deserves RESPECT, not coddling.

[naneun-no]

Ahhhh, I’m actually tearing up. I love them so much. Hobi’s eyes 🥺🥺🥺

Can I go off about something for a moment?

Everyone going on about how they haven’t aged, they never age, blah blah. I disagree.

I think part of what makes this month, and the moment above particularly, so cool and special is that you can see that they’ve aged. They’ve grown. They’ve matured.

They mean even more to each other than before, and we mean more to them, and they mean more to us. Idk, I’m getting sappy but it’s true. A lot of us “grew up” with BTS, or at least spent formative years with them. I found them in my twenties, a decade I’m now, (reluctantly, excitedly, nervously) leaving behind. And so are they. They served in the military, some of them on the front lines, some of them fighting through immense mental struggle, and they made it. They’re here. We’re here. Not every idol, not every young person, is fortunate enough to grow old.

Yeah, their muscles grew, and we wanna go on about that, and I get it — but so did their smile lines. And that’s good.

I don’t want to hear about how Jin never ages, I don’t want someone to pretend they can’t see the way Jimin’s eyes and cheeks have extra lines when he smiles, how Jungkook’s face has lost its slender youthfulness and it probably won’t ever get it back, how Taehyung’s entire demeanor is that of a grown man. Namjoon has circles under his eyes. Hoseok sure as hell is stepping into a more mature era (lol). Yoongi…(okay maybe Yoongi looks the same, his genes are insane).

But my point is, they’ve grown. They’re both the same and not the same young men they were before — and there is something so emotional to me about seeing them standing on that balcony, waving. About the clip of them all dancing to mic drop. About Hobi and Jin forgetting the steps to DNA. They don’t look like some fresh, rookie group anymore. They might look a little camera-shy, after all these months, but they don’t look unsure. They look rooted. They look like they know who the fuck they are, and they know that in part because of the true north of each other’s presence in their lives.

You don’t have to listen to me, say what you want, but — I would love it if we stopped saying they haven’t aged. I know people don’t mean it like that, I know they see it as a lighthearted compliment to say “you haven’t aged at all!” But they have. They have aged!! And so have you, and so have I, and you know what, aging is beautiful. Aging is a privilege. I want to see these seven men on a red carpet at 80, slow and wrinkled and sun-spotted, and know that they lived full, difficult, connected, meaningful, joy-filled lives. And I want that for myself, too, and no amount of societal shaming disguised as a compliment is going to take these hard-won smile lines from me.

They look older. And it looks fucking good on them.

MY HEART!!! IM CRYINGGGG