#j2:media

[mlobsters]

jared padalecki and jensen ackles spn dc con 2024 - main panel (youtube)

Q: In season 5 episode Dark Side of the Moon, Sam and Dean found out that they were soulmates and it was never really addressed after that, so what did they think when they found that out? Jared: I think they knew.

[aborddelimpala]

#SPNNOLA 2023 | If you had to rule the world for a day ?

I so much agree with this. If you're gonna be an hateful asshole online, then you need face the consequences of what you say.

[hussyknee]

People thinking they can poke holes in the quality of the media I hyperfixate on puzzle me. Dude, I know it's trash. I know it's mediocre-to-actively bad. I know it has the nutritional value of Fruit Loops. That's why I hyperfixate on it. If it was actually good it wouldn't produce the kind of under-the-skin irritation only scratchable by 738274 fics, fanedits and meta. I'm not gonna apologize for it.

Of course people who hyperfixate on this trash thinking it's good is a whole other class of animal. That probably belongs in a zoo.

[dyed-red]

Me before: *lived one province away from where supernatural filmed for most of my life and didn't really think about this or care, despite being a fan*

Me before: *visited Vancouver multiple times during those years and never thought/cared about that proximity to the cast*

Me before: *has been to Texas 3 times and never once thought about j2 while there*

Me now: why did I book a trip to South Australia next week instead of to Tasmania why can't I be where Jared is what kind of fool am I whyyyy

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Anyway being active in a fandom gives you brain rot

[somet-hingu-nique]

This is what the core of Supernatural was always about 🤣 you don’t like something? You don’t complain about it, you get of your ass and do something about it!

Jensen is honest to god hilarious. Man gave 15 years to a tv show only for his character to be killed off in some dumbass way that he had to be coerced into agreeing and he then he just did what any sane person would do and just - bought the rights to the show. started a production company. greenlit a spin off that started a glorious twitter beef with his on screen brother. the spin off is just retcon. dean is back on screens while jensen is celebrating deans birthday.

Incredible. 

[collegeboysam]

I need u to stop playing with me fr saying u need others to cook assad rpf because i have read all ur 10+ j2 rpf fics for supernatural so what's the holdup for iwtv? YOU do the cooking chef

ADASFSDFSDGDHDHFGFHFGHFG 😭😭😭😭

I'm sorry my liege! I'll get to it!

[olderthannetfic]

Opinion on the comments in some of the the @ao3topshipsbracket polls: a wildly popular ship is not the same as one that had an actual impact on fandom history. Most popular ships have little to no impact outside their own fandom. Which isn’t to say that ships can’t have impact on their own fandom history, just that they don’t have much impact on general fandom history as a whole.

I understand that the polls aren’t actually measuring fandom history but this got me thinking about what has actually and I think these are the ones:

Spirk - origin of slash fandom shipping and laid the groundwork for fandom/shipping in general

MSR - responsible for the term ‘shipping’ and was the driving force behind the beginning of fandom/shipping on the internet and the creation of fanfiction.net

BTVS - (unfortunately) gave rise to the idea of being ‘anti’ something and ship wars

Harry Potter - most affected fandom on livejournal by the censorship which led to the creation of ao3

Thoughts? I couldn’t think of another fandom/ship that has huge impacts outside of their own fandom.

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Strikethrough made people more eager for AO3, but the original inspiration was a for-profit fic archive made by venture capitalists.

The X-Files' big archive was Gossamer. Was MSR really influential in the creation of FFN? I don't remember that.

What ships have a big impact really depends on era and how you're looking at things. K/S and MSR are the obvious ones from long after the fact, yes.

Starsky/Hutch was what really split Media Fandom from literary SF fandom. Star Trek started the split, but it was people getting into a buddy cop show that made it clear that fanfic zine types weren't just about science fiction anymore, not even "mass media" SF in place of book SF.

Bodie/Doyle was the moment people stopped being media fans and started being Slash Fandom specifically. The US fandom had barely even seen the show: they were there for the slash zines.

Jim/Blair fandom gave us sentinel/guide AUs. The Sentinel as a canon sure as fuck didn't.

Ranma fandom set the pattern for every dumb "which girl will he end up with?" fight in anime fandom forever after.

IDK if we can blame 1x2 as opposed to Gundam Wing fandom for inspiring people to many other incomprehensible math equation ships in every anime fandom with dumb number names.

Popslash popped a bunch of prudes' RPF cherries, then LOTRiPS did, then J2 did, then hockey did, then BTS did.

Free! and then Yuri on Ice started the long slide from anime fandoms mostly refusing to leave FFN to newer anime fandoms being on AO3. YOI also lured a lot of people into anime for the first time.

Wangxian got a bunch of "Ewww, no anime ever! Western fandoms 5eva!" people into Asian fandoms at long last. (Whether this was a good thing is a matter of opinion. Hahaha.)

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I really think it depends on frame of reference.

[deanscutiepiesam]

Hello! I'm still relatively new to the fandom, so I'd gone my entire spn existence not seeing this until now, and I have to share because I'm actually going insane and I need smart people to rant to, so apologies if you've already seen this. D*stiel warning, read at your own risk:

Credit to this [post] on Twitter for the screenshots ☆

There aren't even words, like I'm literally losing my mind. Like these can't be real people. Anyways, let's dive in, guys...

You took Dean's dying speech to Sam, where he's directly vulnerable and honest about his love for his baby boy and diluted it to the fucking gas n sip scene?? Like this is insane I can't even begin to understand the thought process (probs because there isn't one), but omg?? That's so unserious and it's almost funny, but let's move on to the replies because it's way worse.

1. People torn up about the barn is so crazy to me. Buddy, it's not that deep. It's not foreshadowing. They literally just happened to happen in the same type of building. It's so crazy for a character to make their first appearance in a barn, and now every barn must be about him. Weak. Do better.

2. Now this one. This one actually drives me crazy. The scene made you uncomfortable because you think asking him to stay is a "Dean and Cas focal point??" Are you serious?? First of all, Dean has serious abandonment issues, so of course, he wants people to stay in his life, but secondly, Sam has been the main focus of that since the first season. Ever since he went to Stanford. Like did you watch with a fucking blindfold?? Half of the show is just Dean making a crazy decision to keep Sam by his side and the consequences of that. How are you this dumb??

And if I were a gambling man, I'd bet that this person started spn at s4. Like the pieces have fallen into place; it's the only explanation. They're so delusional because they missed the core foundation of the show in s1-3. Their world began when Cas walked on screen so they don't even get the show's thesis, and it's so annoying. It's about Sam and Dean. Get over it. "Love story of two brothers." - Jensen Ackles.

3. "Sam/Dean wasn't the relationship that was crying out for emotional payoff." Bestie I'm in your fucking walls. This has literally been building between Sam n Dean for 15 YEARS. Dean was dying and needed to get out how he felt since the beginning. It was a confession, alright, but you can't handle that it was to his brother, and I feel sorry for you. I get you don't care about the brothers' relationship because of your D*stiel compulsion, but get it together. It's embarrassing.

Also, Jensen literally said he went off script for emotional scenes (including the Sam/Dean barn confession) because it felt right [X]. J2 knows Sam and Dean better than me, you, or anyone else. Even the writers (to the point where they were given the script and told to make it theirs). It's so wild that you can ignore that.

4. "Head touch." I'm not even gonna waste time typing about this. Just look at [this] post. Says more than I ever could.

Anyways. Sorry about that, guys. I'm actually so chill and friendly, I swear :33 I just needed to rant to my homies with media literacy because it's literally dead and I was going insane :)

Thanks for reading, and always remember...

[orionsangel86]

I think the funniest thing about the unparalleled media experience that is SPN is that eventually we are gonna realise that a lot of, if not most of the conspiracy theories were RIGHT.

J2 fallout theory began before the finale even aired. I think its safe to say it was at least SOMEWHAT accurate even if all the details arent known. The messy twitter drama and Jared's complete and utter exclusion from the Winchesters when everyone and their mother was invited to guest star from the other SPN cast is embarassingly obvious if you ask me. If Jared wasnt such a huge asshole I think I'd actually feel bad for him. Plus the obvious awkwardness and not even subtle shade at cons.

Jackles long con conspiracy is hilariously accurate. I remember the speculation during his Sexy Silence era, wondering if he hated the finale as much as we did, and getting laughed at for daring to suggest he wasnt super happy with that gross ending. Then he starts dropping shade and subtly dragging it until eventually he just came out and admitted he wasnt happy, that The Winchesters is legit an attempt to fix things. The Winchesters finale goes on to prove that, and yes, as OP says, the discussion with Misha about Cas returning surely means Jackles has already made up his mind about a DeanCas reunion. It may not look like what we all dream it will look like, but its still in keeping with the conspiracy that Jackles has been plotting to fix things since before the finale even aired.

Even if the big Destiel part of the conspiracy theory isnt as accurate, it still has a basis in reality, based on what Jackles said at Jibcon. He DOES want to see Dean respond to Cas' confession. We have finally moved out of the "Dean was silenced" era because Jackles himself has basically in a round about way confirmed that Dean was in fact silenced.

The other big conspiracy theory within SPN fandom is about the circumstances of the finale and the level of meddling and changes to the end. Misha has already confirmed that Cas was supposed to be there, that he WAS cut out completely and "covid reasons" is a bullshit excuse. If we track all the weird contradictory explanations Misha has given us over the past 2 years its obvious he had some NDA in place preventing him from actually telling the truth. Its only recently he has admitted to Cas's presence in the OG finale script. Once again the conspiracy that certain parties behind the scenes worked hard to remove any and all elements connected to Destiel isn't exactly a stretch. The finale WAS supposed to hint at a reunion between Dean and Cas in heaven. I heard recently that the one pathetic Cas mention of "Cas helped" was an on the day addition that they were thankfully able to sneak in, because he legit was erased completely. This may still be a conspiracy theory, but eventually I believe it will also be proven true - especially as time moves on and intolerence towards queer stories becomes less and less acceptable and queerbaiting becomes a thing of the past. Someone is gonna blab eventually. I can't wait to see Tumblrs reaction when it happens.

Then we have the "Chuck Won" theory. It was initially purely within the realms of meta analysis among those angry and hurt by the ending. It makes sense in so many ways, so much more sense than accepting the totally out of character finale at face value. But there never used to be much merit in it as a legit theory beyond giving hurt fans something to latch onto.

The fact that The Winchesters finale has raised more questions than it has answered, that it has blown the lid wide open on the Chuck Won theory is brilliant and a bit mind blowing. Canonically it is clear that something isn't right. Dean isn't happy and he isnt at peace, and Jack is acting wildly out of character far beyond the realms of bad writing. Its intentional imo. Because everything in this show is intentional.

I genuinely thought I had left this whole universe of maddening conspiracy theories and baffling BTS drama behind me. But its so freaking enticing I cant stop myself from diving back in. No offence to the Sherlock girlies, but the SPN conspiracies are so far removed from TJLC its impossible to compare them. The SPN conspiracies are one by one, bit by bit, slowly but surely, proving themselves true. For a show that ended over 2 years ago it really is an insane state of affairs. There is nothing else quite like the SPN Experience.

truly mind blowing thing to me personally is that the jackles long con truthers... well. maybe they weren't Absolutely Right but they were not Wrong either. he asked Misha to portray Cas on the winchesters. he did. and if cas is here the reunion is inevitable, also: “i hope we will get to see that someday / i think it will go the way we all think it would”. wild

[compo67]

hellooooo

i'm typing with both my hands in compression gloves, with my wrist braces on, so this may not be a long post lol

i posted! for the first time in 5ever i posted! a new chapter is up for photo op on AO3 and Patreon. kermit flail! yay!

it feels SO GOOD to write again!

i am slowly reintegrating social media back into my life. very slowly. but i'll admit that i came on here just to see what jensen said politically that caused such a stir in one of my j2 groups and was fucking RELIEVED that it was an endorsement for kamala. PHEW.

watch out for me in the next couple of days on here. not tonight though. i'm tapping out to go read more of TJ Klune's Wolfsong (which omg y'all should read).

i have a cookie epic to tell y'all about next time. <3

[jandjarchive]

If y'all ever have requests for J2 interviews or lost media or whatever let me know, please! This blog has slowed down to a hiatus because I've found everything I had on my list, but I am always happy to do more detective work :) Shoot me an ask if you find a dead link or a gifset with no source attached and I'll do what I can! I prefer to focus on 2004-2014 but I will definitely consider hunting for things after that time period if they intrigue me enough.

[dotthings]

You are not, nor have you ever been, a "fan" of the tv show Supernatural if you don't respect what the supporting cast brought to it and if you demonstrate your low media literacy as you keep smoking your bonkers off the wall detached from canon lack of comprehension of Castiel's arc, hate Cas, hate Misha, and erase the show's actual themes and actual story while you ride the j2 hat brosonly projection train guzzling your own home brew of fake erudition and actually believe you're a superior fan. You are not. A fan. And have no rights to claim to be a fan. You think everything after Kripke is trash, you are not. A. Fan.

[detailtilted]

NEW Enhanced Edition - CHICON 2009 - J2 Breakfast

Direct link to video. Link to YouTube channel. (13 videos available.)

My latest video is up. 82% of the footage came from the video AgtSpooky sent me. Her video was already on YouTube, but not properly credited to her. I used a few other sources that are credited in my video description.

This video won't look as good as my others, for reasons I've already explained in typically wordy fashion in another post, but I do think it's still quite an improvement versus what's previously been available on YouTube. There are, as usual, some funny moments! I hope you'll find it to be worth watching.

My next video will be the main J2 panel. This is when they first started doing completely combined panels instead of having a combination of solo and joint panels. My turnaround time on the next video will be much slower than it has been up to this point. This is both because the next video will be twice as long as most of my other videos, and also because I have some personal chaos (buying a house/selling a house/moving) that will eat into a lot of my spare time over the next month and a half.

I'll be even less active on Tumblr than usual while this is going on. Whatever spare time I manage to find will probably be dedicated toward video editing rather than social media. If you don't hear much from me over the next month or two, it's definitely not because I've lost interest in my project or the fandom.

Before/after comparison photos...

In addition to these images, there's a 32-second comparison video in this post (the same post I linked to above). The original videos had very heavy flashes which I reduced in the enhanced version, and a screen shot can't demonstrate how big of a difference that makes.

A recap for anyone not familiar with this project…

In December 2023, I started this project to enhance old convention videos. I'm upscaling the videos and making other visual improvements, adding extra content to clarify various references, and adding good color-coded subtitles so you can better understand the sometimes-chaotic audio.

My goal is to publish the best, most complete, and most watchable versions of these older convention panels yet seen, but this is only possible thanks to the fans who captured the footage in the first place and were generous enough to share it with other fans. My video descriptions on YouTube will always credit my sources.

If you have any old convention videos you'd be willing to contribute to this project, please message me! I can also be reached at DetailTilted@gmail.com. Even if your videos are on YouTube, the original files, if you still have them, may upscale much better. If I can get them to upscale, I'd happily send the upscaled files back to you for your own collection whether I use them or not.

[j2spntranscripts]

Welcome!👋

Transcripts aren't always readily available for Supernatural cons and interviews, especially for the older ones.

So I've been slowly but surely, off and on, making J2 SPN transcripts and I wanted to share the ones I've finished transcribing and the sources I've found with those who might be interested.

•If anyone notices a mistake in my transcripts feel free to point it out.

•If anyone can better make out the audio in videos please share your take on it.

•If you know where to find more spn convention and interview footage available online, please share where they can be found.

•If you have old spn convention and interview video files that have been since lost from the internet, please think about re-uploading them to a free video sharing website.

•If anyone has old spn con videos uploaded to YouTube before 2017 that were previously set to unlisted until YouTube's update in 2021 force-changed them to private, please think about making them public or unlisted again.

Thank you! 🫶

•Con Question Index

•Con Transcript archive

YouTube Playlists: • 2006-2010 J2 SPN Con • 2011-2015 J2 SPN Con • J2 Interview/Media/Etc.

[lol-jackles]

What are your thoughts on Clif Kosterman? He seems like a real leech to me, and he’s ALWAYS around Jared - it feels creepy. He calls himself “Bodyguard,” and while I don’t doubt he has had experience in this, and probably could help to defend J2 if needed, I know that’s not his official role with Jared now. If he really was a real bodyguard to him, I doubt he’d have an IG account and be posting about all their adventures all the time - being a real bodyguard means being invisible in general. And if he truly is a leech, why on Earth would Jared keep him around? And Anson, Stands, and Charlie too for that matter? I know it’s a lot of speculation and gossip, but I’m wondering also from a business perspective. Shouldn’t support staff be more invisible instead of, well, in our faces? Do you think Jared may be too trusting, despite the fact that he seems to be very business-savvy? Thank you in advance!

Cliff is no real bodyguard, you have to go to actual bodyguard/security school for that.  Have you ever been to conventions?  They have real security detail to escort Jared and Jensen around, these security men are young, buffed, and silent.  And of course real bodyguards never NEVER give out pictures and locations of their charges; in another country they would be shot for that.  

Cliff was a driver and a glorified baggage handler hired by WB. He calls himself a (fake) bodyguard because it sounds better than driver. J2 need a driver because the network doesn’t want them to drive himself home after 12 or 14 hours on the set.  Cliff wasn't the original driver, that was Bob. There was an altercation and Bob abandoned Jensen by the side of the road, threw the car keys at Cliff, and said, "it's all yours".

Cliff reports back to WB, which is why he posted on social media of J2 and the locations, to show WB he’s on the job and the Padaleckis and Ackles are reminded to behave.  There was one famous story of Jared at some music festival and managed to ditch Cliff and took off. Cliff was probably trying to hit on a drunk girl before he realized Jared was missing and went looking for him.  Cliff was pissed over losing Jared.  No idea how long it took for him to find the wayward actor.

Handlers are supposed to be invisible to the public, but in J2′s case, visibility was “necessary” because it was before Jared or Jensen got their social media accounts, so Cliff served to some capacity as their social media gatekeeper by shuttng down fake Js tweeters and speaking on their behalf, allegedly.  Like the infamous coin toss to get fans to vote in the PCA for Jensen but conveniently does not include video of the said coin toss with the Js’ alleged witnessing and approval of the result. Once the J2 got their own social media accounts, Cliff had to step back publicly, and he did to some extent.  To make up his waning influence, WB rewarded Cliff a vendor table at the lucrative SPN conventions. Those vendor space are highly coveted and vendors line up and wait for years to get a chance at the SPN convention. Cliff started his own merch line called “Cliff hangers” that he sells at Creation cons. 

Since SPN ended, Cliff no longer serves as official driver. I think he's a bit of a charity case for the Padaleckis.

Have you heard the quote "better the devil you know than the devil you don’t". Meaning it’s better to deal with a someone you already know than with a new person that could be worse.

[whengeorgiawentblue]

He goes on a dinner date with Jared and he only meets Misha for work, and you idiots are happy about it. Why is the Cockles fandom so stupid?. 🤣

https://www.tumblr.com/whengeorgiawentblue/762432843627560960/oh-my-god?source=share

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

I said it many times and I'll say it once again: you are utterly stupid.

This is a "date night" according to J2ers, Jensen and Jared bored playing with their mobile phones while creepy Clif the leech takes and post a picture as the attention whore he is

vs

Date night according to cockles shippers: Jensen and Misha the two alone at a cozy table with candle lights in a selfie taken by Jensen Ackles that he posted in his own social media, plus another similar selfie taken 10 years earlier to celebrate some mysterious 10th anniversary (of their friendship? even if they had known each other for 11 years at that time...).

But I guess your standards are so low that a pic of J2 playing app games is the best content J2 shippers will ever have 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣